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[SPOILERS] Final Fantasy XII In Game Discussion Thread
This thread is made for players and people that want to know more about the game. You don’t have to use SPOILER marker here so anyone who don’t want to know to much and lost all fun from the USA or EUR release better try HERE in Official Final Fantasy XII Thread that is spoilers free.
For people that want to play in Japanese version here are the pages that will hemp them understand it better and squeeze the entire fan from the game: You can also post information about your progress in game like game time, level, number of max chains, location, number of summons or questions about the game play. |
CC reporting for duty ^ ^
Oh, I think I am soo near the ending of the game already... dunno how my friend got 138+ hrs... I am only at 83hrs last time i checked~~ TIPS for the starters in the 1st chapter: 1) Talk to every talk-able person in town, because a few triggers later events. (If you understand Jap thats okay coz they dun say much anyway) 2) When going out to fight at the start make sure you use Vaan's skill "Steal" to grab some freebies from monsters and sell those. Coz you will need to get some good gears before you head to the next chapter. 4) To make the quest easier, get to about level 4-5 before you continue back into the town, use Save Point often ;) Heals MP and HP 5) Many ppl had experienced this, but DON'T fight that rexsaurus in that zone... it kills you in 2 seconds. 6) When distributing LPs make sure you plan first, else you might need to reset your License Grid = restart ;) |
Edited the thread title so that others already know that there are spoilers as you mentioned in your opening post.
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Thanks Rydia ^ ^
So a battle related question~! - Whats your favourite Gambit combination? The last time I checked there are more than 200+ gambit functions~ and I still can't find out the ultimate gambit set. |
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1. If ally HP < 50% - Use Potion (Fran: "Cure") 2. If Leader attack Enemy - Attack 3. If Enemy attack Leader - Attack I have translation of all Gambits but never had time to sit and set them. Any useful combinations? |
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As for the Gambit, mine is quite long... I will post once I get home! But yeah, for mine it goes with similar fashion as. 1) If Leader attacks the main boss -> One assist me, another attack the closest enemy 2) If anyone have 40% less HP cast Curaga and if the healer have less than 50% HP and more than 80% MP cast Hastaga on him/herself 3) If enemy weak against any element cast the inverse element on them. 4) Team up only if everyone's HP is below 30% 5) If MP is below 30% only use physical attacks. Thats about the basic gist of my Gambit |
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Okay, finally got the game done, and its time to start contributing back to forum of a fe simple things.
As promised to B4-Hunter, here is the accessory list completed with Value of item, Additional Effects, Locations and Jap-> Eng translation. Hopefully I can do the same to other equipments too *fingers crossed* Please forgive my poor english during the translation XD |
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Btw after first fight with Judge you get stone that absorb (I think) magic of all kinds. We could add it to the list =). |
Heh, I defeated the Wild Saurus when Vossler was a guest character in my party. I did a Myst Knack combo and he died on me, taking about 7000 damage. =( Poor Saurus.
Anyways, I need to do something in Garif right now, but I am wandering around the Ozmone Plains to kill Black Chocobos, Vipers and Mesmerizes. |
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I went back to the sarus after level 52, so yeah 2 pokes from my party and he became our dinner :D
@B4: There are a few more items that I didn't classify as accessory it is because they are seperated into different sections in the menu. Anyway, here is the completed Map of the whole FFXII world. There are some incorrect translations :p |
CC, you've completed the game? So what's your rating, does it deserve a 10/10 like what Famitsu gave? I had to put it aside with piling assignments.
Since you've done the map, you could probably get started with the story and dialogs translations :P |
Hehe, SpookyChee has already started in the translation :p
I want to do something different ;) Prolly specific FAQs (Weapon, Character Level up guide...etc) or something like that! Yeah, I have completed the game already, 86Hrs in game clocktime. As for the rating- * Graphic - 10/10 - Definetly the best looking game out there for PS2 RPG * Sound/Music - 10/10 - The music are just prefect, can't complaint * Plot - 9.5/10 - Dark and the bittersweet theme is what I like. The only complaint is that it could be longer. I minus a 0.5 is because there are still a few unexplained plot loop holes at the end, but other than that I am satisfied. * Control - 9/10 - The control is hard to get use to if you never played FFXI on PS2. The camera could be a little annoying at times, but other than that I have no trouble with it. Some functions may take time to get use to ;) (e.g. Gambit system) * Overall - 38.5/40 - I have to say that FFXII stands on my Fav PS2 RPG game, and I WILL play it again after English version is released. I personally think Famitsu gives FFXII too much credit being the 'perfect' game. There are minor plot holes here and there, and also FFXII is made for more mature audience unlike other prev FFs |
Great, you could probably do those to help people like me during weapon upgrades :D
86 hours isn't really long, something you skipped? Hmm, I guess I'll have to agree with you on Graphic and Control, since I can't judge on the music and plot for now. The controls can be annoying, I'm not very used to turning the camera with R3, and it can be a pain sometimes when you can't see who's targetting you in battles (not to mention the headaches when you turn too much :p) |
Yeah I skipped most minor quests, for Clan levels... as you increase your Clan Level you can claim prizes!
If my memory serves me correctly, 2 ultima weapons requires you to do some of the Clan quest and 1 of them require you to FINISH and MAX out your Clan Level (Trophie) I only did what I am required to complete the game thats all, but today is my second time playing and I will be doing all side quests ^ ^ |
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Actually I'm making Mob Hunt List =). |
OK some new information about my game play. Till now I have one... and half Summons =P Still working on the one from the dessert cave. My max combo was made in Mines on Sky City. 302 kills in raw so long that I was not getting any new items from them cause I already got 99 of them. As for Mist combo I was damn lucky yesterday while playing Green Dragon near Fran's Village. Made 14 hit combo on him that gave us 22,000+ damage!! I got all possible effect on me like slow, silence, poison etc. I don't even know what level I have but it's near 36-37. Already got all Mist on Lv.3 for every character =). DAMN this game is FUN =D
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Whoa... dude you must have been battling a lot.. I didn't get my Lv3 Mist after level 40 or so >_<
Oh, as for my translations I will be working with the FF12trans Wiki people. They provided me a good place to share the works http://ff12trans.pbwiki.com/ We got a few ppl working on it as well, so check it out! Oh B4-Hunter, I have completed the accessory list and magic list translation... go to that website and see~ |
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BTW: Check THIS out =). |
Haha cool~~ thats the best map eva ^ ^
Yeah they did the right translations... I changed a few places names too! |
New chapters in plot and main text translation has beed added. Site is in my signature. Few earlier bugs has been fixed to.
New: Just made 21 Hit Mist combo and got my self a Adramelech (Capricorn). Fight starts and I'm using Mist attack with Vaan. After this I make 21 Hit with it and I'm back on the battle field with summon. Screen start flashing and I notice that his HP is zero... I was shocked!! Anyway it's my 2nd summon but first from unofficial way. http://www.ff12-europe.com/Images/su...adramelech.jpg |
Hey B4-H, how many trophies have you got in your clan room?
Right now I am spending much time trying to get all the "空賊の隠れ家 / Sky Pirate Hideout" trophies~ The last 6 gonna be impossible >_< |
Vaan, Balflear, Fran, Basch, Panelo, Mont Blanc (302), Vayne, Migelo, Chocobo (9/28) 32% ^^ Soon Reks will join my collection ^^
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Speaking of FFXII. It's also been officially confirmed that Kari Wahlgren will be doing one of the characters. Possibly she could be doing one of the main characters; Ashe
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first Im not just another noob asking for help and run away after getting an answer Ive been here for ages but My account was deleted or something like that when the forums went wrong a month ago so dont be to hrsh with me :cow:
I have some questions to ask about this game and I hope someone can give me a little hand. I dont understand Japanesse very much but Ive been playing Jap games for AAAAAAAAAAAAGEs ... of course there are few things that I dont understand or havent figurate out. -At the moment Ive got 38 hours played -I have all my characters in level 28 ( the main one "the-Tidus-wannabe" is on 29 ) -I just finished talking to a very old man where he talks with his mind @__@ HE DOES!!! and then I got an scene where one of the cool warrios is killed by someone who "killed" another OLD man ( LMAO ) -I will always expend ALOT of time killing monsters til I get to the point where they can even touch me :-) but the funny thing is that level is NOT priority in this game is all about filling the sodding "chess table" as I call it ^__^ so that I can get stronger and powerful. ok here we go :D How do I USE the the "special" movements I mean like what do I have to press to make more than 1hit? How do I get more summons? I only got the fire one the big fat one. what is the number next to the time clock? ( is it the number of steps I make during the game? is it points? can I use then? what is RED and BLUE here http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/7707/dsc000755hf.jpg ( excuse the shait quality ) does this have any point to be? http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/9906/dsc000777gj.jpg please dont tell me how far in the game I am cos I dont feel that Im that far anyway :p an this is just my chess table lol : http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/6862/dsc000767ph.jpg THANK YOU VERY MUCHO in advance! :D :cow: |
Whoa, thats 1 handful of questions. If you have any doubts, just find some random FAQs/Walkthrough on the net with translations ;)
ff12trans.pbwiki.com Q: How do I USE the the "special" movements I mean like what do I have to press to make more than 1hit? A: More than 1 hit? Mist Knack? or do you mean like double attack in 1 motion? Q: How do I get more summons? I only got the fire one the big fat one. A: You will get other 4 summons as you advance through the game, there are 7 optional summons that you will need to go through for quests. Q: what is the number next to the time clock? ( is it the number of steps I make during the game? is it points? can I use then? A: Yeah, I assuming you are pointing at the Step-Counter, what it does is just to record how many step you take and you can gain trophies in your Clan room. Q: what is RED and BLUE here A: Those colors indicate the effect on either Party's side or Enemies side. Blue defines the commands beneficial toward the party, where as Red is commands that usually means to damage the enemies. Q: does this have any point to be? A: That just like decoration to your rooms ^ ^!! No, I still haven't figure out whats the point of collecting those figurines for.... prolly just to look cool~ Q: please dont tell me how far in the game I am cos I dont feel that Im that far anyway A: With level 28, and heavy levelling.. you are prolly just about 36% through the game! Q: an this is just my chess table lol A: OH MY GOOD LORD! To be blunt... your build of characters isn't the most efficient ones... normally just focus on 2 weapon and 2 types of armor for each character... don't over do it (eg that picture) You will not have time to fill up all the blank spaces. PLAN WISELY. |
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yes the mist knack when you get another screen and you have a time limit bar at the bottom I always get 1 hit U_U''''' I DONT GET IT :/ I feel that I might be able to get all the guild full if I keep fighting cos Im trying to get everyone at least with "full" weaon level and armor level :D lol Cheers!:cow: Edit 3 lol : you mentioned that there were 11 summons but according to wikipedia there are 12 ( star signs ) + a random one called King of Commandment : Name Title Zodiac Sign Element LP Level Adrammelech Furious Emperor Capricorn Thunder 25 1 Belias Devil Aries Fire 10 1 Chaos King of Reincarnation Taurus Wind 90 3 Exodus Tree of Judgment Libra Magic 50 2 Famfrit Dark Cloud Aquarius Water 90 3 Hashmalim Regulator Leo Earth 50 2 Mateus Corrupt Empress Pisces Ice 25 1 Queklain Impure King Scorpio Poison 50 2 Shumihaza Betrayer Sagittarius Soul 50 2 Ultima Holy Angel Virgo Light 90 3 Zalera Angel of Death Gemini Death 25 1 Zeromus Convicted Tyrant Cancer Gravity 50 2 Zodiac King of Commandment Serpentarius Dark 200 3 I love this game cos is soooo Final fantasy tactics!! :D I still dont know how to make more hits using mist knack :/ |
The last summon Zodiac(ゾディアーク) is a b**ch to get... >_<
You will need to satisfy the condition of 1) Get any 10 summons 2) and you need to 'find' the creature... which involves a lotsa walking. As for mist knacks, you will need to chain them up without breaks. E.g. Level 1 MK 3 times, you will get inferno... I am not really good at explaning mist knacks >_< hopefully someone else can assist ya in that one Also, as for your comment of 'full armor and weapon' *gasp* dude, are you gonna spent that long in FFXII? I have seen ppl spending 150hr+ and their license board isn't that completed yet... so I suggest ya just focus on specific build first... else you will find a lotsa trouble at the end games ;) |
Well I just use 金のアミュレット (Gold Amulet) that doubles my LP gain =) I have 50+ hours on my game counter and I got my upper part of Licence Board almost full =) Got 3 summons 2 from the main plot and one from side quest. I'm trying to get the one from the sewers but it's damn hard =(.
Mist Combo depends on number of orbs you got unlocked on your Licence Board. If you have 3 orbs for all 3 haracters then you just start the fight and use one of them. On the bottom right corner are names of your party characters and buttons: Triangle, Square and Circle. If one of them shows you have to press it quick so 2nd chain will be activated, after this one another SHOULD apear but if now you just need to shuffle it with R2. My MAX Mist Combo was 21 and I can't even get close to it again always stop at 11 or 12. Type of final Mist Combo blow depends of types of used Mist attack if most of them was watter type final blow will be watter type etc. Hope that helps =) |
Okay, as B4 asked for it! A detailed Mob Hunt list from my translation friend EChang (Credit to him)
Its a huge Mob Hunt List and thats why I use Spoiler tags:
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at the moment im 46 hours played already im my "chess" is gettin fuller now :D so to be honest I dont see myself fighting for more than 30 hpurs to get all that ... I dont know but we will see I do enjoy fighting in this game :D about the mist knack what do I have to press? to do the chain I cant make more than 1 O_O |
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Mist Cart appears only if that character has a Summon or Mist Knack learned. Summons and Mist Knacks require a 'stock' of MP called a Mist Cartridge. Mist Cartridges are earned at a certain amount of MP. For instance, if your character has a max MP of 50, then they will get a Mist Cartridge (represented as a glowing orange bar) at 50 MP. As your characters learn more Mist Knacks/Summons, they can carry more Mist Cartridges, up to 3. So if your character has two Mist Cartridges learned, they can actually have an MP of 100 out of 50; at 100, they would have two Mist Cartridges. The number of Mist Cartridges required to use a particular Summon or Mist Knack varies. Another thing that can be done with Mist Knacks is links (renkei, 連携). While a Mist Knack is active, you can use another Mist Knack to combo for greater damage. All you have to do to do so is to press the button next to the character's name (for instance, if you use Van's Mist Knack and you have Balflear and Fran in your party, X might appear next to Balflear's name and T next to Fran's name). Pressing R2 will shuffle which button is assigned to what. The reason for shuffling is that sometimes you'll get a button that is assigned to "Cartridge" (カートリッジ). If you select Cartridge, each character temporarily gains back their Mist Cartridges, meaning they can do their Mist Knacks again. In other words, you can chain Mist Knacks as long as you can keep getting Cartridges to come up. However, the longer you go the time allowed to input the next command goes down, so it becomes harder and harder to combo. (Credit from EChang) ------------------------------------- Hope that helps |
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I need to check out all the judges unmasked.
I need pics of all of them ,can someone help me here?? |
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Grace he female is also old??
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Gabranth (the judge who plays the biggest role) can be seen without a helmet in this movie:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y1Femnv_z00 His appearance is a pretty big spoiler, though. Spoiler:
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yay thanks to all of you I learnt how to use Mist knack! A-M-A-Z-I-N-G and shocking!!!! I managed to make 142 chain hits! but from 100 I started getting the same things :/ so there was no point carring on Sorry about the size :/ http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/2969/dsc000811gn.jpg I got "shiva" if y wanna called like that lol ( the second summon ) and I just found Capricorn in a cave but I need alittle bit more LP to be strong enough to kill him. Now Im was supposed t be going to Arcadia or some place like that BUT Im still fighting and getting loooooooooooooooooooooots of level! I will go to arcadia at level 50 at least ( im at 42 at the moment ) I have to say that this is the best Final Fantasy Ive ever played since Final Fantasy Tactics!!!!!! it soooo exciting and I cant get bored of fighting! :D |
You sure got high stats with only one Mist Knack for Fran. o.o
I am probably not much higher level-wise than you, but everyone has got 3 Mistknacks by now (which is very useful, since your MP increase by 300% when activating all three mist knacks)... Oh yeah, my max. Chain was around 250, I stopped after that because beating up poor bats is really something you shouldn't do. =( (The Lu-se Hamaseki Mines are excellent for getting a ridiculously high Combat Chain count~) |
What about Mist Combo? My max was 21 and Normal Chain Combo was 302 on skeletons in mines =)
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Yeah my Chain Combo was ~280 in the mines too XD
As for my mist combo, the highest I got was 32.... but that was one time eh :( The rest I just get about avg 15-20... still the damage was amazing!! |
I just realised how to use-and-get the myst knack :/ that was the last thing to get on my mind but now Im buying it like a maniac I wasnt awared about the damage that those combos make O___O .
Is there any point keep making more chains? cos to be honest I could actually carried on but after 100 and something I strated getting the same thing and after 99 of items you dont get pass 99 like 100 if you know what I mean. very soon I will get all my characters with more than 1 or 2 myst knack :p i didnt know how powerful and useful was the Mist Knack @____________@ from where do I get or buy or steal the double LP accesory? ( is that how you spell it? XD ) Cheers!! |
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Accessory Level :8 Jap Name: 金のアミュレット Eng Name: Gold Amulet Ability: Doubles LP gain I think you can get that amulate by getting as a reward in a mob hunt quest or steal of 1 boss (forgot who) |
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thanks! I will look into it so from where do I buy it then? O_o
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OK!!! my LP board is absolutly Full! :D (70 hours and few mins lol ) - I couldnt find the double Lp thingy anywhere so I espended all my time fighting the big dinos at this place call cerobi stepped ? :( - I manage to make 27 mist Knack but that one was just a lucky one cos I only get now 18 or 11 xDDDDD I think the trick is using only ONE orb as much as you can so that you have more time to choose or shuffler the others- Im in level 58 ( you wonder how? I spent most of my time fighting vs little bats in the renne mines where they are in level 64 ^__^ doing mist combos they were NOThing agains me loool ) now I in Post balfoheim and they told me to go to feywood but I am NOt going to use any teleporst I enjoy fighting in this game so Im going alll the way down there WALKING! :D xDDDDD
something that Im not doing at the moment is the mob hunt cos I cannot find the monsters LOOOL the bloody cactus or whaever you call it is always running so FUCK IT. lool |
Umm, yeah the mob hunt is a real bitch to handle, especially some mobs have requirements before they would appear. I actually went down and found out most requirements over this holiday break XD
The ones I find most annoying are... Pub Mob: - Wraith, even thou he is an E class monster but his attack really hurts low level characters - Vorpal Bunny, she runs away at every 10% damage <_< - Mindflare, 3 words "Requim of Time" <----- that stops all your party member for about 30 seconds and render all your buffs useless. Can things get any worse? - Marilis, LOL took me a while to find out what are the requirements for this one... - Robbie, his location ISN'T ON THE MAP. *sigh* Clan Mob: - Ultros, the perv monster, only comes out when all your party members are female ;) - Ixion, dunno why he is only class S.. he should be class X or something... bloody tough. However love the rewards :D - Yazmotto, everyones favourite ;) With whopper 40 million HP!! @ Sega, what level are ya after 70 hrs? |
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Can you tell me something when I was going to do this mob hunts there was a man in the beach asking me something I understood something like Finding his friend by the beach , the thing is his fat crocodile friend is by the beach but I do not know hwat to do with him :/ any clues? |
According to this person you can buy the gold amulet from Archades place or whatever you call it :
~経験値及びLP稼ぎ時~ バトルメンバーのアクセサリーを「雛のティペット(獲得経験値2倍)」もしくは 「金のアミュレット(獲得LP2倍)にし、「密猟」はオフにしてひたすら狩りまくる だけ。「盗む」を起点にしてもいいけど面倒なのでやってません。 ティペットはツィッタ大草原のクアールからゲット。アルケイディスでも売ってた かな。 アミュレットは・・・何が落としたんだっけかな。忘れたw。 ブルオミシェイスやモスフォーラでも売ってたかも。 まだLP狙いで戦ったことないけどね。 ライセンスボードを全部埋めるなら別だけど、そうでもないなら使わないかも。 しかし・・・やたら長い文になったな┐(´ー`)┌ -----> アルケイディスでも売ってた <------- Altavista tradutor powerrrr lol edit : I found this rare monster list which is really interesting for the people who wants to finish the game 101% lol it has pics and everything http://www.squarecn.com/ff/ffsky/bbs...0&ID=1587008#1 |
Finally had the time to pick FFXII up again so I played a little more. Met Balthier and Fran now (yes, I know it's still very very early in the game)...so yeah, my question is, what did Balthier do to make the Bangaas hate him so much? I got so fed up trying to decipher every sentence that I stop paying attention sometimes in the game :P
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BLOODY hell! I didnt know that Fabnir ( the mob ) was actually string enough O__O it took me like 40 minutes to kill him @__@.
update : im not long to get all the mobs and the clans ones :D I havent finished the game yet - im in 103.03 hours played!! :D I think I might be finishing this game for in 2 more weeks absolutly 100000000000% lol |
Yeah Favnir was quite a challenge for me too... however if you remember to put shell, protect and reflect you will come out okay! THAT IS IF your level is similar to Favnir ;)
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you should see the amount of money Ive got right now - is ridiculously enough to buy anything.:edgarrock: I just finished Picoslamu , the one who looks like a seafish lool - I read alot about this mob but I didnt get to see any of his "powerfull" attacks cos he was already dead by then lol. next week Ill put more news about my adventures lol the game is really GOOD!!! :D EVERYONE should play it"! |
lol, Well there's no suprise there. As soon as I played this demo in GameStop. I knew this deserved a 10/10 ^_^. And was really happy with it. Even though gamers got to only sample Stilshrine of Miriam or the Phon Coast locations of the final game.
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what is suppose to be here? ( lushu mine o jushu .. WHATEVER is call ) http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/1...00836hr.th.jpg there is a big hole on the "wall" like for a big flying summon ... but nothing is there :/ any clues? CHEERS!:edgarrock: EDIT : never mind that was part of the mysterious man xD I have a few mobs 4 mobs to do and 3 summons too : Mob : Pilelaster God King Behemont Ixion Yamzat Summons : Chaos ultima Zodiac Ive got almost everything but Im missing some weapons / magics / 48 rare monsters . Im in level 81 with a FABULOUS 179 hours n______n''''''''''''' I just love the game :D .... I have 2 little questions >_< there is a small area which connects the mosphoran highwaste and dalmasca westersand but I cannot get pass thru there cos the wind wont let me :/ .... WHY? :/ my next question is REALLY dificult for me to explain ... Ill try my best - we know that the last location is fortess Bahamut but what is the strongest weapon for each category? ( like Fran has an bow with on hit to kill and the bow is actually 81 of damage - if you know what I mena :/ the same with the others my strongest lance is 84 + fire ) Thank you very much. |
Please help me!!!!!!
Hello i'm a little problem with FFXII, im locked in salikawood where i have to find the nine mougle in the forest, but after talk with the mougle in front of the gate, nothing appear on my map..
I read all the walkthrough and in all i read than i need only tolk with the mougle and the others will be marked on my full map screen, but nothing happened... Can somebody give me a help? :aargh: It is possible i forget some key item? It is possible a bug in a game? Thanx ;( |
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need some help please...
does anyone knows where to find a complete list of all items / weapons armors in the game with locations or who do I steal from? im still missing quite ait :/ is thre such a thing? Just killed Ultima and zodiac. Im going for yamaz soon thats my last side quest so that I can finish the game very happy :) Thanks in advance Edit : basicly I need Sagittaria of Fate , Durandal , Break Blade ,Excalibur , Toro Sword , Tournesol ,Ribbon n_n''' th |
uhm its not fabnir nor favnir...
Fafnir. |
right Ive been doing some research ( so you dont think im a lazy asshole lol ) about the weapons im actually missing and I found really good info about it, like telling you where and how to get the Strongest Halberd and the others but the thing is ... is all in Jap , I will really apreciate if someone can translate it cos altavista gave some random names O_o
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after that Im lost. Sagittaria of Fate 宿命のサジタリア サジタリウス×4、獣王の角×3、円月輪×3 Artemis' Bow アルテミスの弓 シルフス×1、大蛇の牙×2、月の砂×2 cant remember what this was ...: キングベヒーモス 250G、バッカスの酒×2 討伐後ブルオミシェイス神殿へ続く道の中央の岩から 50万ギルとフェイスロッド入手出来ます toro sword トロの剣 神殺しの紋章×1、オメガの紋章×1、タイコウの紋章×1 tournesol トウルヌソル サーペンタリウス×3、霊帝の魂×3、玉鋼×3 Durandal デュランダル レーシー×1、皇帝のウロコ×2、生命のロウソク×3 Break blade ブレイクブレイド タウロス×3、オリハルク×2、キマイラの首×2 Scorpio tale 蠍のしっぽ スコーピオ×4、死竜の骨×3、落雷衝×3 thanks in advance :edgarrock: |
after ALL this time I manage to get a pic of how to get the strongest halbert... but the thing is I found so much but the nearest one is this pic :
http://blog22.fc2.com/l/lafih/file/20060402215328.jpg this is a pic of nebreus deadland , that pi is a empty room , the thing is HOW do you get it FULL of "chests" like in the screenshot??? and there is a VIDEO! O___O http://www.geocities.jp/mako2lafih/saikyouhoko.zip |
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