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rpgcrazied Oct 28, 2007 11:23 AM

Baroque
 
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Think maybe atlus will localize this? Ive never played the saturn version.. but it looks cool.

Kinda the same P3 is, with a central tower/dungeon.. that has many floors an changes layout each time you enter. Its suppose to be an action rpg?

Nall Nov 23, 2007 11:22 AM

Info for this game is actually kinda scarce, but it looks to be a first-person RPG similar to Phantasy Star I or Shining the Holy Ark. I can't tell if the battles are real-time or turn-based from any screens I've looked at, though. The original came out for Saturn and PSone in Japan only back in 1998, and the PS2 version came out last June, but Sting or Atlus haven't said anything about bringing this outside Japan. I'd imagine the small following Sting has amassed with Yggdra Union and Riviera *might* give it a chance to come out stateside, though.

Dark Nation Nov 24, 2007 04:39 AM

I have the soundtrack for some bizzare reason, I'll post it later if you'd like. I'd probably check it out if there was a PS2 port, like how they just did for NiGHTS, another Saturn Game.

valiant Dec 12, 2007 07:59 PM

Actually it looks like Atlus is porting it. (Good call)

Official Baroque Website

Guess Soul Nomad wasn't the last Rpg ish game to be released
This might be the last thing I pick up for PS2 (unless another rpg shows up too)

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 12, 2007 08:11 PM

Huh? What? A muti-platform RPG? And for the Wii?

That's some weird shit.

Grilled Carrots Dec 12, 2007 08:31 PM

Looks interesting and I'm in love with the artwork... heh, the ps2 is working hard to prove it is immortal.

rpgcrazied Dec 12, 2007 09:52 PM

wow.. its coming.

Thank you atlus! so it comes out in january?

valiant Dec 12, 2007 10:43 PM

I believe they said it was planned to come out on February

Syndrome Dec 13, 2007 07:46 AM

wow, looks very atlus~

what's that thing on his back? also Nation, you gonna post dat soundtrax lols?

Gechmir Dec 13, 2007 08:37 AM

I remember playing this on the Saturn. Very creepy-feeling =( FLYING FISH W/TEEF COMING @ U and shit.

Looking forward to it as always, Atlus~

Dark Nation Dec 13, 2007 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 550681)
wow, looks very atlus~

what's that thing on his back? also Nation, you gonna post dat soundtrax lols?

If you would please type in normal English, then yes.

Baroque Original Soundtrack

Syndrome Dec 13, 2007 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Nation (Post 550785)
If you would please type in normal English, then yes.

Baroque Original Soundtrack

Thank you very much!

trackjacket Dec 13, 2007 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gechmir (Post 550703)
I remember playing this on the Saturn. Very creepy-feeling =( FLYING FISH W/TEEF COMING @ U and shit.

Looking forward to it as always, Atlus~

Is the Saturn original worth playing through? Also, is it in English?

nanaman Dec 13, 2007 04:12 PM

Looks interesting! I wonder what the Wii version has to provide with compared to the PS2 version. I'll be playing the PS2 version anyhow.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 13, 2007 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by trackjacket (Post 550879)
Is the Saturn original worth playing through? Also, is it in English?

No and no.

I'm completely skeptical, mostly because randomly-generated dungeons are frustrating when they're implemented in a goddamn dungeon-crawler. Yes, it adds to the replay value, but dungeons seem randomly thrown together (surprise!) and are oftentimes nonsensical. We'll see how it goes, and if the Wii port is any good.

Rotorblade Dec 13, 2007 11:36 PM

I'd be more interested if they ported and/or remade Black/Matrix. I've never really heard anything of Baroque other than it being subpar or lackluster.

Gechmir Dec 13, 2007 11:58 PM

It was Japanese and playable despite that, but I didn't find myself getting hooked, in all honesty. It felt very creepy though =(

trackjacket Dec 14, 2007 12:55 AM

Yeah, not gonna waste my time with it, then. Thanks for the replies!

speculative Dec 14, 2007 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Generic Badass (Post 550358)
Huh? What? A muti-platform RPG? And for the Wii?

That's some weird shit.

Indeed! Thank the Wii's lack of quality control. 2001 graphics + randomly generated dungeons = this will be pure trash...

Elegy Dec 17, 2007 07:01 PM

I've always been interested in Baroque, but I don't know much about it. I'm really surprised it's being released in English and on the PS2, yay!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Nation (Post 550785)
If you would please type in normal English, then yes.

Baroque Original Soundtrack

Thanks a lot for uploading the ost for us, but it seems they already removed it.

Dark Nation Dec 17, 2007 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Elegy (Post 553223)
Thanks a lot for uploading the ost for us, but it seems they already removed it.

Hmm, probably had to do with the obvious file-name.

Well, Here's a sendspace upload of the soundtrack

Django! Dec 18, 2007 12:21 PM

I'm just gonna repost what I said on other forums. It's nice to see Baroque getting revisited, and translated, but the original is just not a good game. It's interesting, but it's basically bad game in the same way King's Field was. And the King's Field games were better.

I picked this up along with Black/Matrix from Babbages around 10 years ago, when they had a big display of Saturn import titles.

Game sucked then. Dunno how it's gonna do well now. Doesn't really seem like the main flaws in the game were addressed.

The original Saturn game was a randomly generated dungeon crawler/Rogue-like. It was really slow, and hard to avoid attacks. It was mainly a challenge to see if you could actually get to the next point in the game, since every level you were reverted back to being naked.

I would imagine it's being remade because some of the characters are really cool, and it has a decent premise. Though I hear the PS2 remake doesn't look much better than the original, and that the characters control like those in Phantasy Star Online.

But really, Sting has started a habit of reworking things. Riviera was remade at least twice, Yggdra once, and there is a shmup, typing of the dead, and Radical Dreamers style game all based on Baroque.

Black/Matrix, on the other hand, was great. Too pad Atlus didn't pick it up instead.

Hindman Dec 22, 2007 12:26 AM

Announced for Wii, eh? ƒoƒƒbƒN for Wii

http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...roquewii12.jpg
http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...aroquewii3.jpg
http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...roquewii10.jpg
http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...aroquewii9.jpg
http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...aroquewii8.jpg
http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...aroquewii2.jpg

Hopefully both versions make it to NA.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 22, 2007 01:00 AM

The Wii version has already been announced on the official website.

Hindman Dec 22, 2007 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Generic Badass (Post 555621)
The Wii version has already been announced on the official website.

Yeah, that's what I linked up top. But it has an announcement on there marked December 21st, so it seemed pretty recent. I hadn't heard about it till checking.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 22, 2007 01:07 AM

No, I mean the Wii version has already been confirmed on the official North American website. Both versions of the game are confirmed to be coming stateside.

Hindman Dec 22, 2007 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Generic Badass (Post 555625)
No, I mean the official North American website. Both version of the game are confirmed to be coming stateside.

Oh, holy shit cool.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 22, 2007 01:11 AM

Yeah, the Japanese version was oddly slow in being announced.

trackjacket Dec 22, 2007 01:29 AM

Some new info concerning the Wii port:

- First Person Mode with motion control
- Game has been re-balanced (difficulty)
- Quicksave feature for dungeons
- 16:9 support
- Wii Remote/Nunchuk control
- Classic Controller also supported

Lots of new screens here:
Dengeki Online - Baroque

Source:
Go Nintendo » Baroque info, screens, movies, website
Siliconera » Baroque for Wii gains a Sega Saturn camera angle

Luceid Dec 22, 2007 04:45 PM

Well, this looks like a really nice game to keep an eye on. Definitely going to my wishlist. We'll see how things go once it's out in the market.

Long live Atlus. <3

CelticWhisper Dec 23, 2007 11:45 PM

So aside from Trackjacket's post, does anyone have a definitive list of the differences between the PS2 and Wii versions? I'm kinda torn as to what to get. On the one hand, a Wii RPG would be great, plus the obvious 480p/16:9 support. On the other, though, I'm a little skeptical of using the Wiimote to play an RPG originally designed for a traditional controller. I could always pick up the classic controller, but if I already have a PS2...

Yargh. I hate to be that guy who gets both versions, but...

Zeta26 Dec 24, 2007 02:32 AM

Sorry if this' off topic.

But on the side of Atlus. I also hope they bring some more of it's Super Robot Taisen series over. Like the newer voiced versions. Super Robot Taisen (for the PS2)

JazzFlight Dec 24, 2007 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CelticWhisper (Post 556461)
On the one hand, a Wii RPG would be great, plus the obvious 480p/16:9 support.

Being a Wii game doesn't guarantee that. There are tons of games on the Wii without either feature. Plus, there are quite a few games on the PS2 with 480p/16:9 support.

Django! Dec 24, 2007 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Generic Badass (Post 555627)
Yeah, the Japanese version was oddly slow in being announced.

We got the announcement before Japan did.

Quote:

But on the side of Atlus. I also hope they bring some more of it's Super Robot Taisen series over. Like the newer voiced versions. Super Robot Taisen (for the PS2)
NeoGAF has a list of YTD software sales up. They're disappointing. I wonder how well a Super Robot Taisen game would do on the Wii.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 24, 2007 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Django! (Post 556706)
We got the announcement before Japan did.

I know, that's why I said the announcement was oddly slow. If we hadn't gotten the announcement first, then there would have been no indication that Japan would be getting a Wii port (because evidence of said Wii port wouldn't exist).

Forsety Dec 24, 2007 01:12 PM

Wasn't the excuse for why we never get/got any Super Robot Taisen games was because of copyright issues or some such shit? I know a good deal of these games aren't in original settings (we got the OGs on the GBA) so they can't bring them over here because the rights for the Gundams and all the other stuff is spread all over different companies outside of Japan.

Django! Dec 24, 2007 01:24 PM

Quote:

Wasn't the excuse for why we never get/got any Super Robot Taisen games was because of copyright issues or some such shit? I know a good deal of these games aren't in original settings (we got the OGs on the GBA) so they can't bring them over here because the rights for the Gundams and all the other stuff is spread all over different companies outside of Japan.
True, but from what I remember, the OG games did very well.

Quote:

I know, that's why I said the announcement was oddly slow. If we hadn't gotten the announcement first, then there would have been no indication that Japan would be getting a Wii port (because evidence of said Wii port wouldn't exist).
That's pretty much what Atlus told me when they eMailed me.

Also, hello, GB. I don't see you on AIM anymore.

CelticWhisper Dec 24, 2007 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JazzFlight (Post 556641)
Being a Wii game doesn't guarantee that. There are tons of games on the Wii without either feature. Plus, there are quite a few games on the PS2 with 480p/16:9 support.

No shit? I could've sworn that 480p and widescreen were supposed to be requirements for Wii games (the way certain HD resolutions were on the PS3 and Xbox 360). Did Nintendo drop that requirement, or just not apply it in the US, or...what?

Well, anyway, if that's true, then it's more ammo for the case for getting the PS2 version.


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