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Bradylama Oct 20, 2007 01:15 AM

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J.K. Rowling outs Hogwarts character - Yahoo! News
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NEW YORK - Harry Potter fans, the rumors are true: Albus Dumbledore, master wizard and Headmaster of Hogwarts, is gay. J.K. Rowling, author of the mega-selling fantasy series that ended last summer, outed the beloved character Friday night while appearing before a full house at Carnegie Hall.

After reading briefly from the final book, "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows," she took questions from audience members.

She was asked by one young fan whether Dumbledore finds "true love."

"Dumbledore is gay," the author responded to gasps and applause.

She then explained that Dumbledore was smitten with rival Gellert Grindelwald, whom he defeated long ago in a battle between good and bad wizards. "Falling in love can blind us to an extent," Rowling said of Dumbledore's feelings, adding that Dumbledore was "horribly, terribly let down."

Dumbledore's love, she observed, was his "great tragedy."

"Oh, my god," Rowling concluded with a laugh, "the fan fiction."

Potter readers on fan sites and elsewhere on the Internet have speculated on the sexuality of Dumbledore, noting that he has no close relationship with women and a mysterious, troubled past. And explicit scenes with Dumbledore already have appeared in fan fiction.

Rowling told the audience that while working on the planned sixth Potter film, "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince," she spotted a reference in the script to a girl who once was of interest to Dumbledore. A note was duly passed to director David Yates, revealing the truth about her character.

Rowling, finishing a brief "Open Book Tour" of the United States, her first tour here since 2000, also said that she regarded her Potter books as a "prolonged argument for tolerance" and urged her fans to "question authority."

Not everyone likes her work, Rowling said, likely referring to Christian groups that have alleged the books promote witchcraft. Her news about Dumbledore, she said, will give them one more reason.
Rowling is such a tremendous hack it's unbelievable. I've got no problem with Dumbledore being a pole smoker, but if it wasn't worth addressing in the book she shouldn't have been addressed it at all. Mystery is part of what gives a story appeal, and conjecture is what keeps a franchise fresh in the minds of fans.

And yeah, the fanfiction. You are such a stupid bitch.

Ayos Oct 20, 2007 01:19 AM

Yes, it ruins it. And it's honestly surprising. I was quite content to think that he and McGonagall were secret lovers. A pole-smoker? ... the beard would be so... SCRATCHY...

Bradylama Oct 20, 2007 01:28 AM

That's just the way he likes it! Who are you to judge hot beard lovin'!? It's just as legitimate as furrydom. :mad:

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia:1:33 AM Central
The young Dumbledore became friends with Grindelwald, spending many an evening playing "hide the sausage".

Now it's canon! =D

CloudNine Oct 20, 2007 01:36 AM

Heh, I just read this and was going to post it.

It doesn't ruin anything at all for me. I never really thought of Dumbledore as a sexual being in the first place, as it never played any sort of part in the books. His sexuality plays no part in his actions and/or his personality in the books.

I personally like to hear details like this about the characters. I've been reading these books for years and the little details that she has been sharing since Deathly Hallows came out helps to answer things that conjecture will help with. It helps to answer tidbits that were never completely addressed and to fill out the images of smaller characters that were not well defined due to publishers not wanting to print a 2000 page book.

A student asked her if Dumbledore had ever found love. I don't know why people are upset about her answering it. Would it be as upsetting if it was a women and would the decision to announce that be labeled as unnecessary, seeing as that was not worth addressing in the book? I don't think that would be the case.

RainMan Oct 20, 2007 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayos (Post 518463)
Yes, it ruins it.

As if that were possible. A bottle of spilled ink on the page would've made for more competent writing than that fluff.

This is ridiculous. Rowling probably just said it to sensationalize the series. As if it needed the extra help. This is tacky. Why can't she just let the concept of Harry Potter die 'gracefully'?

peeack Oct 20, 2007 03:02 AM

The same reason you won't die gracefully.

Bigblah Oct 20, 2007 03:15 AM

The same reason you won't die gracefully (in a fire).

Yggdrasil Oct 20, 2007 03:37 AM

So why are all these details coming out now long after the books are done? Shouldn't all this have been included in some book?

Bradylama Oct 20, 2007 05:34 AM

I don't think she created Dumbledore thinking he'd go for a cockring, though.

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His sexuality plays no part in his actions and/or his personality in the books.
Which is exactly why, only through reading the source material, nobody would ever suspect that Dumbledore was gay. This is exactly why Rowling is such a hack. If she didn't mention it in the book because she wanted to avoid the controversy then she's a fucking coward who's afraid to portray her own characters. Because otherwise she's retroactively trying to turn children's literature into a social commentary to raise the hype around the franchise, which makes her a disgusting and manipulative bitch.

Matt Oct 20, 2007 02:10 PM

He must love them magic wands. *crickets*

I don't even care about Harry Potter anymore. The ending of the final book was so anticlimactic she might as well have just ended it before Harry faced Voldemort in the first place.
And fuck the epilogue. Such a cop-out.

Zephyrin Oct 20, 2007 02:11 PM

Yeah, what a bitch. Why can't Rowling just have a divorce and custody battle like all the other famous people do?

Leknaat Oct 20, 2007 02:34 PM

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She was asked by one young fan whether Dumbledore finds "true love."

"Dumbledore is gay," the author responded to gasps and applause.
So, gay people can't find true love?

The answer to the question, you stupid bitch, is, "Yes" or "No."

"Oh, the fanfiction!"

means...

"Wow! Free publicity!"

Idiot...

Midna Oct 20, 2007 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bradylama (Post 518516)
I don't think she created Dumbledore thinking he'd go for a cockring, though.



Which is exactly why, only through reading the source material, nobody would ever suspect that Dumbledore was gay. This is exactly why Rowling is such a hack. If she didn't mention it in the book because she wanted to avoid the controversy then she's a fucking coward who's afraid to portray her own characters. Because otherwise she's retroactively trying to turn children's literature into a social commentary to raise the hype around the franchise, which makes her a disgusting and manipulative bitch.

I completely agree. The books contain almost no sexuality whatsoever until later when the kids enter the teen years and start having first kisses and develop feelings for each other. And I can't recall anything about Dumbledore that hinted at his sexual side at all. It's a kid's book, and the last thing kids want to read about is parental/authority figures having sex. This feels like a cheap publicity stunt.

Why didn't she just re-write the books to say that the real reason Dumbledore kept Snape around was because of his tight asshole. Sheesh.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Oct 20, 2007 03:37 PM

Of course he's gay. It's a well known fact that all the male teachers at boarding schools are nonces.

Summonmaster Oct 20, 2007 03:52 PM

Totally attention-gathering. Such a moot and unnecessary point that I wasn't even thinking about seems to have made its way into her statements. This would be on par with finding out that Crookshanks has 758,287 strands of fur on its body.

Bigblah Oct 20, 2007 04:41 PM

Yeah, what a bitch. Why can't Rowling just get drunk and DUI like all other famous people do?

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Oct 20, 2007 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Summonmaster (Post 518717)
Totally attention-gathering. Such a moot and unnecessary point that I wasn't even thinking about seems to have made its way into her statements. This would be on par with finding out that Crookshanks has 758,287 strands of fur on its body.

No, this would be tantamount to learning that Crookshanks was actually a symbolic reference to the Irish Republican Army.

Bernard Black Oct 20, 2007 06:07 PM

That doesn't suprise me in the slightest. Both her publicising further and the fact that Dumbledore has stepped out of the metaphorical closet. I guess she can say whatever she wants since she made the end so final.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Oct 20, 2007 07:46 PM

In before "Snape Fucked Dumbledore" Meme nonsense

Dirac Oct 20, 2007 09:26 PM

I can't say I'd hit. He's a bit out of my age range -- I tend not to date people over the age of 100. Also, the long hair and down-to-the-testicles beard is so unattractive to me.

I find a clean-shaven look to be much more appealing. I'd definitely do someone like Arthur Weasley, or Cornelius Fudge.

Now that's some Fudge I'd like to pack!

Vemp Oct 20, 2007 09:43 PM

Can't wait for pregnant Dumbledore hentai to come out!

ramoth Oct 21, 2007 04:46 AM

I'd post something thoughtful about trivializing the issue of homosexuality and the real prejudices people face today, but honestly, Rowling has made the entire conversation a joke.

See this part that comes directly before the Dumbledore "bombshell":

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Q: In the Goblet of Fire Dumbledore said his brother was prosecuted for practicing inappropriate charms [JKR buries her head, to laughter] on a goat; what were the inappropriate charms he was practicing on that goat?

JKR: How old are you?

Eight.

JKR: I think that he was trying to make a goat that was easy to keep clean [laughter], curly horns. That's a joke that works on a couple of levels. I really like Aberforth and his goats. But you know Aberforth having this strange fondness for goats if you've read book seven, came in really useful to Harry, later on, because a goat, a stag, you know. If you're a stupid Death Eater, what's the difference. So, that is my answer to YOU.

[loud applause]
You sick fuck.

Ozma Oct 21, 2007 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ramoth (Post 518995)
I'd post something thoughtful about trivializing the issue of homosexuality and the real prejudices people face today, but honestly, Rowling has made the entire conversation a joke.

Well, she had to make it a joke. Otherwise, every shitty things she mentioned could be a Damoclaes sword for herself.

The strange thing is why would she mentioned him gay? The whole story would just fit in, whether Dumbledore is straight, a gay, or a bisexual. She personally shattered the good image of this character in front of her fans...and that's not good for anyone.

She's retarded.

Bradylama Oct 21, 2007 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozma (Post 519046)
Well, she had to make it a joke. Otherwise, every shitty things she mentioned could be a Damoclaes sword for herself.

She probably could've thought about this before she put bestiality in children's literature.

Sian Oct 21, 2007 10:08 AM

I never really thought about his sexuality...

I can see t-shirts being made about this.

Ozma Oct 23, 2007 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bradylama (Post 519065)
She probably could've thought about this before she put bestiality in children's literature.

That's why she's retarded.

VERY retarded.

ramoth Oct 23, 2007 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozma (Post 519046)
Well, she had to make it a joke. Otherwise, every shitty things she mentioned could be a Damoclaes sword for herself.

The strange thing is why would she mentioned him gay? The whole story would just fit in, whether Dumbledore is straight, a gay, or a bisexual. She personally shattered the good image of this character in front of her fans...and that's not good for anyone.

She's retarded.

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Originally Posted by Bradylama (Post 519065)
She probably could've thought about this before she put bestiality in children's literature.

"I need to make it edgy and dark, so adults will be interested too."

Or perhaps

"God, fucking goats is hot."

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Oct 23, 2007 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ramoth (Post 520290)
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You really are quite the little 'tard aren't you?

ramoth Oct 23, 2007 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Shin (Post 520323)
You really are quite the little 'tard aren't you?

Honestly, Shin, your attitude sucks.

I have better things to do than be harassed by you. Good bye (again).

Misogynyst Gynecologist Oct 23, 2007 11:31 AM

In ramoth's defense, Shin - you have to admit that Ozma's post was more than a little on the weak side.

Conan-the-3rd Oct 23, 2007 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah (Post 518806)
In before "Snape Fucked Dumbledore" Meme nonsense

In before "Snake @$%(£(ed Dumbledore".

Then again, I'm sure the sight of Big Boss would turn any ligitmate man to the other side.

Zergrinch Oct 23, 2007 06:52 PM

I'm interested to read what Rita Skeeter wrote about the *ahem* relationship between Albus and Harry in that biography :P

Ozma Oct 24, 2007 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ramoth (Post 520290)
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What I mean is this.

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Originally Posted by Ozma (Post 519046)
Well, she had to make it a joke. Otherwise, every shitty things she mentioned could be a Damoclaes sword for herself.

Just imagine if she said it seriously. The words she's saying would just hit herself when the whole bunch of fans started to get annoyed because of Dumbledore's hidden facts, which is indeed disturbing. By turning it into a joke, less people will consider it seriously, and so, the chance for Rowling to have her fans feel ruined is less than 1.

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Originally Posted by Ozma (Post 519046)
The strange thing is why would she mentioned him gay? The whole story would just fit in, whether Dumbledore is straight, a gay, or a bisexual. She personally shattered the good image of this character in front of her fans...and that's not good for anyone.

We judge a book (well, at least me and my pals) by what it is, by what it tells, and by the fact about the story written, not by additions made after the whole story finished. The truth is that Harry Potter's story will just go on, disposing Dumbledore's sexual references.

If in those seven books, a quote about Dumbledore's being a gay is mentioned, so it does. But unfortunately, the news about it is not mentioned even once in the thick books with more than one million words.

So does it make any differences in the story? No. The only things created by the news Rowling announced are only more hatred from the Christian fanatics and questions whether Dumbledore did something Harry and other male characters or not.

And that's a complete disturbance.

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Originally Posted by Ozma (Post 519046)
She's retarded.

You know this one. No explanations needed.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Oct 24, 2007 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LeHah (Post 520430)
In ramoth's defense, Shin - you have to admit that Ozma's post was more than a little on the weak side.

It was weak, yeah, but ramoth's posting quality has been on a downward spiral of late and he's not got much room to sink. This kind of aggressive posturing is fine from someone who can actually string a decent post together but ramoth is in no position to making statements like that.

Hydra Oct 24, 2007 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash Landon (Post 518751)
No, this would be tantamount to learning that Crookshanks was actually a symbolic reference to the Irish Republican Army.

Beautiful.

Anyway, I'm rather disappointed she'd make such a statement this far *after* the fact. It's just 'ressing dead publicity, like y'all have said. So... hmm... guess I've nothing original to say. Certainly not as original as comparing Crookshanks to the Irish Republican Army.

*sigh*

Misogynyst Gynecologist Oct 24, 2007 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Shin (Post 520921)
It was weak, yeah, but ramoth's posting quality has been on a downward spiral of late and he's not got much room to sink.

Ramoth at least had a point in time when he wasn't making crap posts. I cannot say the same for a couple other members.

ramoth Oct 24, 2007 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shin (Post 520921)
It was weak, yeah, but ramoth's posting quality has been on a downward spiral of late and he's not got much room to sink. This kind of aggressive posturing is fine from someone who can actually string a decent post together but ramoth is in no position to making statements like that.

You know what Shin? I'm tired of your badgering and posturing. This is the kind of shit that I'm talking about (in those PMs).

If you'd bother to look, I make many fine posts that are inoffensive and helpful. Once and a while, I, as do many other members here, like to make a snide, backhanded comment. And there you are , without fail. It's almost creepy.

Just get the fuck off my case already, Christ almighty. We get it. You have a hate boner so big it's the real reason the moon's orbit isn't circular (none of this Jupiter & Venus nonsense). Now, if you'd be so kind as to exit this thread, (perhaps even the planet)?

Sincerely,
Someone who can't actually string a decent post together (apparently!)

Edit: I'd just like to point out my "downward spiral [of post quality]" includes not posting for weeks and weeks at a time. Who knew you could extract a trend from such little data! :gonk:

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Oct 25, 2007 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ramoth (Post 521350)
You know what Shin? I'm tired of your badgering and posturing. This is the kind of shit that I'm talking about (in those PMs).

If you'd bother to look, I make many fine posts that are inoffensive and helpful. Once and a while, I, as do many other members here, like to make a snide, backhanded comment. And there you are , without fail. It's almost creepy.

Just get the fuck off my case already, Christ almighty. We get it. You have a hate boner so big it's the real reason the moon's orbit isn't circular (none of this Jupiter & Venus nonsense). Now, if you'd be so kind as to exit this thread, (perhaps even the planet)?

Sincerely,
Someone who can't actually string a decent post together (apparently!)

Edit: I'd just like to point out my "downward spiral [of post quality]" includes not posting for weeks and weeks at a time. Who knew you could extract a trend from such little data! :gonk:

Quit playing the victim, you're impressing nobody. Quite where you've got the idea that I'm singling you out from I don't know but it simply isn't true. If I see a crap post, I'll call someone on it. I appreciate that not everything you post is spammy but some of your posts are extremely spammy and of an unacceptable quality.

I've got no problem with people making snide remarks either. You'll notice I never once accused anyone of trolling and in fact, I think a lot of people here are turning into fucking pussies wh othrow out the word troll at the first hint of unfriendliness. What I do object to however is really crap snide remarks with no thought put into them thrown out in a nonsensical fashion towards people who don't deserve them. I also object to people who make snide comments then go crying when someone else makes one back.

If you want to play the emo card and leave forever because I've been so horrifically nasty to you (And gave you an infraction point too!) then do it, just don't sepnd the next couple of weeks Linkin Parking all over the place first. There's little more pathetic than an e-martyr.

Otherwise, shut the fuck up with your whinging, grow a pair and stop making pointless little spam posts and we can all go on as if nothing ever happened.

Your call, kid.

Ozma Oct 25, 2007 08:19 AM

Oh, come on. The one feeling disgusted should be me, not you guys.

ramoth Oct 25, 2007 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Shin (Post 521593)
Quit playing the victim, you're impressing nobody. Quite where you've got the idea that I'm singling you out from I don't know but it simply isn't true. If I see a crap post, I'll call someone on it. I appreciate that not everything you post is spammy but some of your posts are extremely spammy and of an unacceptable quality.

I've got no problem with people making snide remarks either. You'll notice I never once accused anyone of trolling and in fact, I think a lot of people here are turning into fucking pussies wh othrow out the word troll at the first hint of unfriendliness. What I do object to however is really crap snide remarks with no thought put into them thrown out in a nonsensical fashion towards people who don't deserve them. I also object to people who make snide comments then go crying when someone else makes one back.

If you want to play the emo card and leave forever because I've been so horrifically nasty to you (And gave you an infraction point too!) then do it, just don't sepnd the next couple of weeks Linkin Parking all over the place first. There's little more pathetic than an e-martyr.

Otherwise, shut the fuck up with your whinging, grow a pair and stop making pointless little spam posts and we can all go on as if nothing ever happened.

Your call, kid.

I love how you can come into this thread and talk all sorts of shit and contribute NOTHING to the topic ("Oh he's a headmaster at a school he must be gay, lol"), whereas if I pulled something like that, you'd slap my ass with Aggressive Trolling.

I had a lot of other text typed in here, but really, it doesn't even matter. You're not going to read it anyway, you're going to continue to be an internet tough guy and "call me out" on shit that Mush, Aard, or even Tails could post with no troubles.

This is ridiculous.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Oct 25, 2007 11:13 AM

While I realize that this is an ongoing feud like Elvis Presley and the All You Can Eat Buffet - one thing is very obvious to me, ramoth.

You realize its a very, very bad idea to talk back to Shin in the tone you are, right? You catch more flies with honey than vinegar, after all.

ramoth Oct 25, 2007 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by LeHah (Post 521660)
While I realize that this is an ongoing feud like Elvis Presley and the All You Can Eat Buffet - one thing is very obvious to me, ramoth.

You realize its a very, very bad idea to talk back to Shin in the tone you are, right? You catch more flies with honey than vinegar, after all.

You're right that this is an ongoing thing, since early this year. I've asked a number of times for some constructive criticism and as far as I can recall, all I got was "don't be a turd" and "post bettar". I think my posts are just fine, personally, and compared to the average general discussion & TQP or Animespot inhabitant are quite good. Even at my worst, there are still a number of people doing the exact same thing, moderators included.

Really, I'm just perplexed as to what the fuck I'm supposed to do to "improve my posts." :tpg:

Dalkaen Oct 25, 2007 02:00 PM

I personally don't see why everyone is making such a big deal about this. Someone asked her about Dumbledore's past loves and she responded. She may well have kept it secret had she not received that question. I may not be aware of the whole situation, but that's the way I understand it, anyhow.

Bradylama Oct 25, 2007 02:28 PM

The problem is that now people are going to make a big deal about it and try and claim that it's a great thing for gays. The only thing is, now they're all going to go re-read the book looking for the subtext, and spot all the "flamboyant dress" and weird pets and go "Well of course he was gay."

It's like the modern Liberace only it's a fictional character in children's literature.

Bradylama Oct 25, 2007 02:49 PM

Off Topic: I am lollin so hard at these gay-related google ads.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Oct 25, 2007 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Devoxycontin (Post 521762)
Rowling doesn't even seem like the type who could keep herself from freezing a man's cock off, her snatch is so frigid and unused since before recorded time. Seriously, since when do bland looking 40something millionares who write shit childrens books make a good lay

Corrected for facts

Congle line of abuse. Or is that conga-line. Or congaline. Oct 25, 2007 04:20 PM

Look forward to Harry Potter Redux with at least 300 pages (per book) with unreleased gay scenes and naked Playboy Bunnies.


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