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BlueMikey Oct 11, 2007 05:21 PM

EA Buys BioWare and Pandemic
 
EA buys two game studios | Reuters

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SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Electronic Arts Inc (ERTS.O: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Thursday it is buying two video game studios for more than $800 million in a deal that fills a weak spot in its games lineup by adding role-playing and action titles.

Under the deal, EA will acquire BioWare Corp and Pandemic Studios, privately held firms that have been partners since a 2005 deal brought them together under VG Holding Group with backing from private equity firm Elevation Partners.

Shares in EA rose as much as 1.3 percent to $59.44 in extended trading after the deal was announced. In the regular Nasdaq session the stock fell 2 percent to close at $58.69.

EA said the deal would be dilutive to its fiscal 2008 earnings by 30 cents to 40 cents per share. Excluding special charges, the purchase would reduce EA's earnings by about 5 cents a share in its fiscal fourth quarter, which concludes at the end of March.

It could also boost EA's revenue by more than $300 million a year, Chief Financial Officer Warren Jenson told Reuters in an interview.

"We're very excited about the revenue potential. We see that in both '09 and '10 to be in excess of $300 million," Jenson said. EA had just over $3 billion in revenue in 2007.

BioWare is the maker of a series of critically acclaimed and best-selling role-playing games, including "Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic" and the "Baldur's Gate" series.

Pandemic makes military-style action and shooting games such as "Mercenaries", "Star Wars Battlefront" and "Full Spectrum Warrior."

"The reason we did this deal is because it's an incredible strategic fit with EA and there is an unbelievable collection of talent from BioWare and Pandemic," Frank Gibeau, head of EA Games, said in an interview.

"It also puts us in categories that we're not in right now," Gibeau said.
Can someone please just make EA go away? Everything they touch turns to shit. They've all but ruined what was one of my favorite series: SimCity. What next?

russ Oct 11, 2007 05:25 PM

Bioware no :(

Does this mean that we are going to see Mass Effect ported to PS3, PS2, PSP, DS, GBA, Wii, and cell phones?

rpgcrazied Oct 11, 2007 05:26 PM

Ahhh.. not bioware! I bet they are eyeing square-enix too.. lol

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Oct 11, 2007 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by russ (Post 514538)
Bioware no :(

Does this mean that we are going to see Mass Effect ported to PS3, PS2, PSP, DS, GBA, Wii, and cell phones?

Nah, just yearly sequels.

ApOkwARG Oct 11, 2007 05:46 PM

EA becomes self-aware at 2:14am EDT December 21, 2012. In a panic, they will try to pull the plug.

Slayer X Oct 11, 2007 05:50 PM

I was more surprised by the fact that EA could afford to buy the companies with all the office downsizing and complaining of sales they've been doing this year. Suppose they wern't as bad off as they tried to make it seem. (no surprise there)

However I'm not all that surprised. I'm more surprised that Pandemic didn't get purchased by Lucas Arts first and that Microsoft didn't buy BioWare, especially with the recent loss of Bizzare and Bungie.

Ah well, such is the way of the business world I guess. Worst part is there's another 3 seconds taken out of my life each time I boot up Mass Effect watching the stupid EA logo, lol... *crying*

Yggdrasil Oct 11, 2007 05:59 PM

*sigh* This just adds to the long list of studios that have been wholly consumed by EA, reminds me of amoebas that just engulf everything they come in contact with. Westwood, DiCE, Maxis (not sure about this one, but close enough IMO) and now these two studios. Before we know it all that'll be left will be EA, who will stick their stupid logo into our faces every time we boot up a game (which by then there will be no other publishers).

Bradylama Oct 11, 2007 10:04 PM

Well on the bright side, Bioware is shit anyways. :)

Dragon Age sounded pretty awesome though :(

Hamu-Sumo Oct 12, 2007 05:21 AM

Oh noez! I see Bioware's MMO in great danger. :/

Elixir Oct 12, 2007 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rpgcrazied (Post 514540)
Ahhh.. not bioware! I bet they are eyeing square-enix too.. lol

EA don't have shit on real developers.

Also, Westwood was bought out by EA? Fuck. There goes the possibility of a Total Annihilation sequel.

map car man words telling me to do things Oct 12, 2007 07:23 AM

Pandemic noooo ;_;

Although I can't tell if this increases or decreases the chances of a Full Spectum Warrior sequel :(

Infernal Monkey Oct 12, 2007 07:50 AM

This is great news! BioWare RPGs will now have rockin' EA TRAX. :rock:

"The evil Atari gang is threatening to destroy our very existence with their Backyard Football, you there! You must save our king, John Madden, only then will peace be restored to the land!"
"SHUT UP BITCH I'M LISTENING TO MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE LOL"

*Advert for underarm deodorant pasted on a nearby wall*

Conan-the-3rd Oct 12, 2007 08:25 AM

This sorta puts a full stop on the Sonic RPG Project, doesn't it?

Elixir Oct 12, 2007 08:38 AM

If EA work on a Sonic game, I just don't even want to think how that'll turn out.

Infernal Monkey Oct 12, 2007 08:40 AM

Just have him as an unlockable in Burnout Paradise. HE'S THE FASTEST THING ALIIIIIITAKEDOWN.

Lukage Oct 12, 2007 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 514871)
EA don't have shit on real developers.

Also, Westwood was bought out by EA? Fuck. There goes the possibility of a Total Annihilation sequel.

Yeah, good thing that there wasn't any game made called "Supreme Commander" or anything, nope.

map car man words telling me to do things Oct 12, 2007 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lukage (Post 514922)
Yeah, good thing that there wasn't any game made called "Supreme Commander" or anything, nope.

Obviously I have no idea who Chris Taylor is so there! That, or allow me to nitpick what I personally felt was r0ng with Supreme Commander.



Still, again, I would kill for a proper next-gen FSW2 ;_; Finally seeing all that processing muscle put to proper good use would be amazing! Am I seriously the only one? :(

Dark Nation Oct 12, 2007 01:22 PM

DO NOT WANT!

Elixir, Westwood Studios was acquired in between C&CRA2 and C&C Generals. You can obviously see the effect.

Since Will Wright made EA a metric shit ton load of money from the Sims, he was allowed to more or less keep his own creative team and is generally the lone exception to EA's rule of QUALITY (But since it IS EA, that's why we have "The Sims ..." expansions all the fucking time.

The good news is that Microsoft said that Mass Effect was close enough to being finished that it won't be affected by the take over, but any future games WOULD be.

Dammit EA, why must you destroy all that is good and right in the gaming world? Last game I remotely enjoyed from you was Burnout 3 (Which was made by Criterion Games anyway)

Sin Ansem Oct 12, 2007 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan-the-3rd (Post 514897)
This sorta puts a full stop on the Sonic RPG Project, doesn't it?

No it isn't.

I can't find the interview but it pretty much says "Sonic RPG still happening".

EA is pretty much saying "We're not interfering with what's going on already." Plus I really don't see too much point in hating them anymore. (Employees often recruit at my school and interns tell me that EA is not perfect, but they're certainly not cruel monsters).

Majin yami Oct 12, 2007 01:44 PM

Any hopes of a (good) sequel to Knights of the Old Republic just went down the shitter.

trackjacket Oct 12, 2007 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamu-Sumo (Post 514862)
Oh noez! I see Bioware's MMO in great danger. :/

Yeah, I could see this happening, since EA is ramping up to release Warhammer Online next year. Would be silly to have the two MMOs compete for the same space. Of course, that is, if BioWare's MMORPG is for PC. If it's for PS3/Xbox 360/PC, then that's a different story.

Elixir Oct 12, 2007 05:14 PM

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Plus I really don't see too much point in hating them anymore. (Employees often recruit at my school and interns tell me that EA is not perfect, but they're certainly not cruel monsters).
EA are basically a gigantic katamari, just rolling up every small American/Canadian developer slowly. And they've been constantly processing cheese which is killing the gaming industry.

They're as bad as THQ. They shouldn't be allowed to make games at all.

Slayer X Oct 12, 2007 06:30 PM

Especially their sports games man. Jeez, that's really killing the way the industry works in North America, and it sucks balls.

While I do appreciate the fact that EA IS coming out with well baked games like Army of Two and such, they still have a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG ways to go. At the very least, they're not taking advantage of the Wii like Ubisoft which EA could VERY easly do. (take advantage in a bad way I mean)

But this topic in of itself can be made into a thesis and then on to a full size paper of business and econimics all based off this very topic so I think I'll stop here for the night.

Tails Oct 12, 2007 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwarky (Post 514883)
Pandemic noooo ;_;

Although I can't tell if this increases or decreases the chances of a Full Spectum Warrior sequel :(

The real question is:

Would it be good?

No.

BlueMikey Oct 12, 2007 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Slayer X (Post 515059)
At the very least, they're not taking advantage of the Wii like Ubisoft which EA could VERY easly do. (take advantage in a bad way I mean)

Oh yes they are.

NBA Live 08 Reviews

Dark Nation Oct 12, 2007 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 515040)
They're as bad as THQ. They shouldn't be allowed to make games at all.

I applied to be a QA Tester with THQ ;___;

Slayer X Oct 12, 2007 06:57 PM

@BlueMikey
I meant more in the shear number of games. I wouldn't be surprised if someone told me that Ubisoft have made 50% of the Wii games to date... seriously.

map car man words telling me to do things Oct 12, 2007 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tails (Post 515063)
The real question is:

Would it be good?

No.

Why wouldn't it be good? >=0 Saged so bad.

Incidentally, both games were released by THQ, so the company can't be all bad.

Elixir Oct 12, 2007 10:07 PM

GameFAQs - Game Company Information

Enough said. If someone blows THQ up, maybe some quality movie-to-game releases will start happening. Some random mecha game isn't going to make up for the dozens of processed cheese they've managed to pump out in the last three years, sorry.

Slayer X Oct 12, 2007 10:19 PM

If THQ goes bye-bye, then who's going to make Man Handeling or Wresteling games?

The world will cease to lose balance... oh wait a second, there's still EA, right, nevermind.

Sexninja Oct 13, 2007 03:17 PM

BW still has many games under its belt not revealed.
I remember the news of one PS3 xclusive.
I know they will definatley make use of their voice engine alot, tweaking it even fiurther for future releases.
MMOrpg, dragonage, ps3 xclusive and lots more will come, all will rock coz they are in playable form, so EA could not harm it or can it?

Iwata Oct 13, 2007 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sexninja (Post 515441)
BW still has many games under its belt not revealed.
I remember the news of one PS3 xclusive.
I know they will definatley make use of their voice engine alot, tweaking it even fiurther for future releases.
MMOrpg, dragonage, ps3 xclusive and lots more will come, all will rock coz they are in playable form, so EA could not harm it or can it?

There is no Bioware PS3 exclusive. It was a rumour started in early 07 by an anonymous reader. Here is the article.

Rumour Central

map car man words telling me to do things Oct 13, 2007 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 515142)
GameFAQs - Game Company Information

Enough said. If someone blows THQ up, maybe some quality movie-to-game releases will start happening. Some random mecha game isn't going to make up for the dozens of processed cheese they've managed to pump out in the last three years, sorry.

I.. can't really tell if you were making reference to some other games or if you're actually misinformed enough to think Full Spectrum Warrior is a mecha game, in which case we can just laugh you out of GFF altogether.

Either way, they sure have their share of crap as do all large publishers, but they've also published the Dawn of War games, Supreme Commander, Psychonauts, Broken Sword and your beloved Gitaroo Man. Like I said, they can't be all bad.

Helloween Oct 13, 2007 06:31 PM

This raises some interesting points and questions for me. What i'd like to know is whether or not a video game developer would be considered a forum for media, and thus being branded a media company. BioWare is Canadian, and it is against the law to own a canadian media company if you're not canadian yourself (i.e. a canadian organization, or citezenship in the case of private ownership). I also happen to know that more than a few canadian laws get overlooked in this sort of case, so i wonder if this was taken into account during the buy.

BlueMikey Oct 13, 2007 06:48 PM

But it isn't a Canadian media company anymore, it is a division of Electronic Arts, just like EA Canada.

Helloween Oct 13, 2007 06:51 PM

But the law should've stopped the transaction in the first place.

BlueMikey Oct 13, 2007 06:55 PM

If there is such a law that you cannot completely sell a Canadian company to an American corporation, I'd be willing to bet they just structure it in a way where EA buys all of BioWare's assets...licenses, copyrights, employee contracts, property, etc....and then BioWare is dissolved.

Helloween Oct 13, 2007 07:14 PM

I suppose that would work. I'm going to ask my politics professor about this though. Not that i'm trying to start a revolution or anything, just curious. Also would like to hear his opinion on whether or not game developers are considered forums of media.

Elixir Oct 13, 2007 09:26 PM

How many good games have THQ actually developed, not just released into Europe?

Infernal Monkey Oct 13, 2007 11:15 PM

It still amazes me in a not really so amazed but kind of (sorta) that THQ is as big as they are today. Also that I can form sentences like that. They were so ARSE in the early 90's, breaking everything they touched. Wayne's World, Ren & Stimpy, Home Alone, MORE EXAMPLES HERE. These were big names! But the games were complete rubbish, and nobody bought them. They almost went down the shitter. Then BAM, effort! Time Trax, the second Ren & Stimpy (AND MORE EXAMPLES HERE: THE SEQUEL) were awesome. THE DIRT WAS GONE.

But now their licensed games sell hundreds of thousands of copies no matter how much stomach bile is rubbed on the case. THQ doesn't need to try anymore. And good luck to them on that. They outsell everything else on the planet combined including bread and milk (also milkbread). I'm off to pre-order Bratz 4 Real. :3: THQ's a pretty good publisher when you kung fu kick the shovelware out of the way, though.

Buy Worms Open Warfare 2

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speculative Oct 14, 2007 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey (Post 515586)
THQ's a pretty good publisher when you kung fu kick the shovelware out of the way, though.

Buy Dawn of War, Winter Assault, and Dark Crusade

Corrected. Anyone who released the RTS/strategy game of the year, more than once, can't be all bad.

With luck, EA will get so large that people will be able to siphon money off into little development departments without the "suits" knowing and we will get some great games that way.

Kagosin Oct 20, 2007 11:32 PM

Actually at first I thought EA was horrible. However, a few of my friends work within there, and they say it's alright. It's not all that great, but it's not painstakingly horrible. I'm playing the game skate right now, and it's not all that bad. I'd prefer it more than Tony Hawk games at this point.


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