The Legend of Dragoon
 

So.. I really dont remember this game.. I guess it was suppose to compete with FFVIII?

Anyway.. since im pretty much have gotten through most of the ps2 rpgs.. cept some nis games.. im trying to go back to the ps1 ones.

I got it from amazon for 2.50$ new.. lol

Do any of you like it, or is it shit? since it was only 2.50$ it cant be to bad to play.

I thought the game was extremely cliche and cheesy, but still enjoyable. It doesn't anywhere near Final Fantasy, but then again, I only finished the first disk. If you're a hard core RPG fan, I'm sure you'll like it.

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The game has awesome music (even its own menu theme!), and like Sepharite said, there was some cheesy lines but the cg cutscenes had a little voice acting too. IMO, I found this a bit more challenging than FF8. You'll find alot of epic battles that you would want to save on a memory card, but that's just me.

The game is fun, but it has a lot of problems. The plot is transparent, the timed attack system gets tedious, the bosses get really annoying with instant death moves, and the game gradually discourages the whole dragoon system. Towards the end of the game, the biggest threats are instant death moves and status effects. Status effects.
Oh, and the whole 32 items, 256 armor slots thing. Even when I didn't sell any armor after upgrading for two full discs, I still only got like 50 slots filled.

I only got as far as the beginning of the fourth disc, and then just kinda stopped. I do plan to get back to it eventually though.

I remember getting the game not long after it first came out. I had just finished FFVIII and was looking for my next villan to defeat. Like FFVIII I played the game beginning to end in two weeks. Loved it.

I'm sure my memory is going to play tricks on me here, that and when I played it it was the second RPG I had ever played, but I still love the game to this date. The music was awesome, and the battle system still inspires similar systems to date, e.x. Lost Odyssey. It may not have had a overly complicated story, but it was more then enough to give point to the events of the game. Also a lost tressure of the PS1 days, the day when I aee a sequel to this game is the day when my life will be complete. ^^

any problems running it on a ps2?

I have a slim, and i some versions glitch on it? Guess we shall see

The only game that I remember ever not working on a PS2 was Final Fantasy Tactics. And it was only the GH version or the original, can't remember which but it was only 1. However I think they even fixed that with the slim PS2s so you should be alright. Chances are slim anyway seeing how it is a Sony made game.

ya.. also, i know i couldve downloaded it.. but emus are so glitchy on my computer. :P plus id want to play it on my tv.

Pretty much, and for $2.50 you can't really complain. You also don't have to worry about glitches, you can take it with you and your system, and you get a case which is always cool to have for your collection ;)

P.S.
The average rating for the game is 78% Of course the 3 lowest scores is by the 3 biggest douches in the industry. GameSpot, IGN & EGM/1UP

I really liked LoD. It was one of my early RPGs so it didn't seem very cliche to me. If anything it was like playing a new FF7. The only major flaw in the game was the abusive use of the X button. The game was made by Sony, so it was my firm belief the game itself was an elaborate gimmick to make people buy new controls. All the X button mashing in that game could easily break your controller. Besides that, the game was great. Epic story, memorable music, likable characters, lots of places to explore, the works.

The game was pretty awful, yeah.

The story is transparent, cliched, and driven by protagonist failure. You basically go forward, failing to stop the bad guys' plan at every single turn and getting smacked around by the main villains, until you unexpectedly are allowed to beat them in a boss fight. The characters are likewise all walking cardboard cutouts, Rose excepted, and Dart is just a failure as a human being. Kind of hard to respect the hero when he gets his dragoon spirit stolen TWICE.

The "additions" system is tedious, and heavily penalizes you for anything short of complete mastery. The backgrounds are gorgeous, but the character models are just under FF7 quality, if that. The stupid white-haired trollop with the hammer is made extra annoying by the fact that her character model is so ugly, you don't even get the fanservice she's supposed to supply. The music isn't bad, though.

It's almost worth playing the game for Rose, though. She seems fully aware that she's in a bad RPG, travelling with a bunch of thinly-veiled archetypes, and snarks her way through the whole thing. She's also the only one who gets any character development. And as a bonus, she has a spell where she sucks enemies into her vagina. They changed the name in the translation, but it's still obvious what's going on. :tpg: Ditto for the one where Rose menstruates and heals the party.

It's not a total loss, though. You only paid $2.50 for it, and you can play a drinking game with this list as you go. But otherwise, unless you're into atrocity tourism, it's not worth your time to try to play through the whole thing.

I thought the game was pretty enough but it was basically a really crappy (and really hard) rip-off of FF7. Neither the characters or the plot were interesting enough for me to get further than the second disc.

(Although as mentioned, Rose's spells are at least worth a laugh)

Overall, I enjoyed playing Legend of Dragoon, but not for the same reasons that Monkey King did, obviously....LOL

(I never noticed that, Monkey King. I'm going to have to play it again for that....)

Yes, it was cheesy and cliche--but it's fun because of this. Sometimes you just want something easy to follow and fun to play. This was it.

I for one enjoyed LoD, despite its cliches. I liked the addition system, although it could get a bit tedious because you have to do it EVERYTIME if you want some decent damage, and the dragoon shifting was also pretty cool. Of course there were flaws, mainly the lame story (although there is one AWESOME FMV with the dragoons) and the lack of decent character development (but you still gotta love Rose). One of my bigger annoyances was the lack of fast transportation, meaning that you had to go through every dungeon when going from A to B, without access to an airship or some sort of teleportation. This gets especially annoying near the end of the game, when you actually have to CHANGE DISCS when you want to go back to towns from earlier in the game (seriously the only RPG were you had to do this). Overall I thought it was a pretty solid game, but then again, I tend to be pretty easygoing and I don't pay much attention to little flaws.

Legend of Dragoon was just Sony's way of jumping aboard the RPG bandwagon~

I got it when it first came out and I really enjoyed it. Now it's kinda nice to pick it up now and then and play through it. Sure it had a crappy cliche/transparent story but that was what the charm was~

The addition system was tedious at times but remember, the game didn't really force you to go all out by getting the strongest additions (which were usually harder) outside a few boss fights. The game was pretty easy (besides throwing a extremely hard boss fight in your face) that way.

Hell they even threw in two accessories that made additions automatic. All the cheaper one did was half SP accumulation (which made it harder to transform/level up dragoons but still..). Which you can buy in Lohan on the first disc if you had the money~

I cant wait to get it.. it sounds like a pretty good game. Im sure ive played it when it first came out, but with all the other games since then.. i forgot it.

I got chrono cross too for like 5bucks :D

Its great when you can find really good RPG's for a really cheap price. I came across a few going through EB Games old playstation bargain bin.

Some of the ones I found for around $3.00 are:
1.) Suikoden
2.) Vandal Hearts II
3.) Saga Frontier 2

In terms of Legend Of Dragoon, it was one of the first rpg's I played when I first owned a playstation and for the most part I really enjoyed it. It wasn't a deep rpg by any means, and the dubbing of the ending FMV scene was off sync it was almost unbearable.

You know, overall what made the rpg good for me and this is just my opinion is that I absolutely loved one of the boss themes. I really enjoyed the addition battle system. It was my first time I had played an rpg with that type of battle system and I really enjoyed it.

I like games rpg battle system that use hand eye co-ordination such as Legend Of Dragoon. The only other rpg I have ever played that incorporated a similar battle system was Shadow Hearts. I'm sure there are more but I just haven't played them yet.

I would like to see another legend of dragoon game came out, with a newly polished battle system, I tyhink there are things they can improve on to make the battle system more enjoyable.

I liked the characters for the most part. The attack moves were pretty interesting especially the later ones such as Perky Step & Gust Of Wind Dance.

It was a fairly linear RPG and the story wasn't that deep but it was still enjoyable. I liked collecting all the stardust. Even though hardly anybody likes usuing the white dragoon. She was always a must in my party especially when fighting bosses because it was only her and meru that could heal the entire party while in dragoon form.

Overall for me it was a solid rpg game for myself. Not nescessarily one of my favourites, but to this day it still has one of my favourite rpg battle systems.

We can never forget our little friend Legend of Legaia..

I remember how hard it was to get freakin money in battles. I had no choice but to gameshark that problem >.>

I should get it like tuesday or so.. stupid slow shipping. :P

Haha, yeah. EXP and Money are hard to come by. Since it used the whole divided by party members equation and you only got like 100-150 MAX and you needed about 5000-10000 at high levels. Only ways of leveling up were going into boss battles or finding those damn hard to kill birds. >_<

But we sure as hell can try!

I remember that. Man, that was a pain.

rpgcrazied: I think you'll enjoy this game. I really do.

God, I must have spent hours killing those birds to buy three of those legendary helmets before going to kill some lady. They were worth it though, making the rest of the game a breeze (at least concerning magic attacks). Experience wasn't that important, I don't think I ever encountered a boss were I had to do some serious grinding for, except maybe near the end, but then again, the XP you got there was enough to gain a level every 15 battles I think.

It's been so long even though I own the game. Was this the one that required disc swapping depending on what town you wanted to enter? If so I don't have too many fond memories of it.

I remember the product value to be pretty impressive for the time though considering Sony's game quality history at the time and the fact that it was an RPG to begin with.

This game is terrible. Boss fights consisted of me using damage items until the boss died. I got to the end of the game and then my sister (the owner of this copy) plays my file and finishes the game. I wasted all that time for nothing. I guess its alright, since there really isn't a reason to play it anyway, IMO. The only redeeming feature is the music...well, maybe just the normal boss music, since its all I can remember.

It's been so long since I've played this terrible game...

Also, Legend of Legaia kicks ass.

This ALMOST makes me want to try it again. Since I don't remember a damn thing.

To be honest, overall, I liked the game, but I hated Noa. THAT's the part I want to forget. I wish my copy hadn't been ruined in a move. I'd play it again.

But, rpgcrazied, buy the game. You'd be out what? Less than $10. Most of us bought it for a LOT more than that, and of course, our opinions will vary.

lawl, i already bought it :P i know ill like it.. the only thing so far that seems annoying is the world map.. and in the later game, if i want to return to an old town i have to swap discs?

thats pretty crappy.. other than that i cant wait to play. it was very cheap. I hope its the non-gh version.. but this late in the game, i doubt it :P

The battle system was good enough for me to not give a damn about Noa but her story was pretty deep so I gave her a chance. I still have those epic battles with me such as the fight between the team and those other 3 fighters.

One game I never tried was Legaia Duel Saga. BESIDES graphics, is it any better?

ugh.. im never ordering from amazon sellers, or maybe its just this guy/company.

it was like 7dollar shipping.. order'd it last friday.. I didnt think it would take a week+ to ship a game.

Making money was hard but leveling up was easy. I just killed for about 3-4 hrs in the and went to lvl50. LoD is studily easy if you give Rose the attack badge and a legend casque. She'll deal 1000 damage with Demon's Dance, plus she'll evade near 100% of the time. I went over board though and bought 2 phantom shields and 1 legend casque. Buying those is what took a long long time. Almost 40,000G in total.
The arts system has been revamped. Normal arts now give AP instead of use it. The more powerful arts use AP. With the correct combination of Normal + hyper arts, you can pull off the same damage moves over and over without losing AP at all. What this game has going for it is the "arena" battles and a dungeon with over 100 levels.

oh.. this might be a bug playing on the ps2.. or maybe it does it on the ps1?

On the world map, when you enter a stage(town, dungeon) the picture will be really dark.. but if i exit out and reenter to get the box is back to normal

I remember logging 80+ hours into this during summer break, I got as far as the last half of the 4th disc but stopped for reasons I forget. It's fun, while not terribly original in any way, it's got enough points to be engaging and has a somewhat involving battle system. The plot and characters are almost a satire of every RPG cliche (wise geezer, vulnerable childhood sweetheart etc) but I think it pieces everything together in an effective way

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Actually, that is pretty funny, kat. I remember thinking, "Huh?" Well, that's original....So much for strategy.....

I'm on the second disc now and I kinda like it, not as good as FFVIII (best game ever made), but it's good. I actually like the battle system, can't say much about the storyline until I beat the game but it's not that clear yet whats really happening, it kinda moves really slow. I mean for being on the second disc it still feels like you just started the journy and dont know whats going on. I dont like the exp rate of the game, it takes a bit of a while to lvl up and the damage is not even 99999999999 like other RPG games. Still a great RPG game, have some voice acting, worth playing it.

Ah I did like this game for the overly dramatic dragoon transformations and the X press timing. Even at the time though, I thought the graphics were somewhat questionable, and Monkey's King's recant of Rose's provocative spells pique my curiosity to play this again. I had stopped playing this partway through Disc 3 sometime after the axe wielder joins, near the teleporting town.

I always thought when playing this that other people wouldn't be able to stand the voice acting. I actually enjoyed hearing Meru's "Double Smack!" over and over and over again. Which reminds me of another point.

I love how the girls realllly took a beating hard. Maybe it wasn't just the girls but elemental weaknesses too, but I strongly remember Shana and Meru would get raped by large damage physical attacks a lot. At the time I thought the numbers were far too high whenever they got hit by a weakness, so it was tricky to make sure that a single physical hit wouldn't knock out the girls instantly.

The one thing I remember most about this game was the commercial that aired in the US back in 2000 or so.

"Nigel, he cut my head off! Did you see that? He cut my head off!"

Oh, and if anyone frequented TheGIA back when it was still around, the whole debacle with one of the editors giving the game a 1/5 and the absolute torrent of hate mail they received for it. They posted the exact figure just before they took the site down, I don't remember what it was, but it was quite a lot.

Oh, i remember this one, i owned a copy... i payed for i dunno... 10hrs or so, and then left it for being completely annoying! every little thing in the game was annoying... the world map, the battle system whith pressing the buttuns at the fucking right time that never worked, the inventory in wich each item takes one place, and thus you can barely carry stuff... and worst of all was that it was BUGGY, it got hanged quite often when checking the inventary, and it was a fucking original game... I reckon the bug thing maybe has something to do with the spanish translation (it's happened before... sometimes the traslators make a shoddy work that adds bugs that were not in the original game). I ended up reselling it, for some reason it is an extremely overated and searched game in Spain O.o i got some good money from it! :P

Oh, the cutscenes were nicely done, that's true... but that's about it.

And one more thing: the character desing on this game is one of the worsts and more unoriginal i have seen ever... IHMO, or course :P

My brother owns this one - I think it's the only RPG he owns (as in he spent the money to buy), actually.

I remember playing the demo a lot (in between the first town and the second town/city, I think), and I didn't think it was bad. I didn't like the camera, but I thought the fighting system wasn't too tedious (lol at having Dragoons in the demo far earlier than you should), but I never got into it too much.

My brother got sucked in and ended up buying the game. He got pretty far, but as some of the others said, the bosses became hard just to be hard. I think he was stuck on the one that could level you down (or something along those lines).


I only got four hours into it, and dropped it for something else (I think it was Final Fantasy IX - we got Legend of Dragoon a little while after it was released).



Wasn't bad sales the reason a sequel or something similar wasn't made? I mean, I remember a lot of advertising for it back in the day.

Well, part of it was due to them spending almost four years in development making a knock-off game designed to compete with and looking like Final Fantasy 7, then rushing it out the door just in time to be rolled over by Final Fantasy 8. After a fiasco like that, I don't imagine a sequel was looking too profitable.

Maybe it was because I loathed FF VIII so much (same orphanage my ass), or maybe it was the way it seduced me with highly rigid character types, or maybe it was the way the moon hit the archetypal characters like a big pizza pie. Either way, it was amore.

Sure, the game is predictable, and the story is incredibly blatant. But I liked the timed hits. I liked how the story wasn't weeping MySpace fare like FF VIII wound up being (still the worst characters I've ever seen in a game. God. SHUT UP already. DO something with your life. Get a job. Stop whining like a 12 year old listening to Dashboard Confessional etc...). Now was it worthy of the perfect score it got from GamePro? No. God no. This game has all sorts of flaws, but it's decent enough. I don't loathe it as much as most people, but I'm not about to pick it up and tear through it again.