Heroes Season Two Discussion
 

The second season of Heroes begins tomorrow evening for those in the United States. There's sure to be quite a few revelations and a slew of new mysteries.

I read an interview with Tim Kring, in TV Guide, a few days ago. Kring stated that this season will find Noah Bennet and his family relocated to California and will follow his attempts to pick up the shattered pieces of his family life while eluding his former employers.

Claire will also find a new life apart from her old family and will develop a romantic interest. This will be sunshine and roses until she discovers the same injection markings on his collarbone as those found on Parkman, Sprague and others.

Niki and Jessica will continue to resolve their inner conflicts, though things may not work out for the best, especially where torn interests in Micah are concerned. Curiously, Leonard Roberts, the actor who played D.L. Hawkins, is not on the Season Two cast list at this moment. Hawkins was severly injured at the end of the first Season, and the alternate-future Sylar was shown to have stolen D.L.'s abilities. Perhaps Roberts' absence and this storyline are connected.

Season Two will also place a more significant emphasis upon the old guard heroes such as Linderman, Mr. Deveaux, Angela Petrelli, Mr. Nakamura, and others. Takezo Kensei, original owner of the sword, will also play an important role, as he is supposedly over one millenium in age.

There will naturally be new heroes also. In addition to Takezo Kensei and Claire's unnamed love interest, superpowered individuals Maya Herrera and Monica Dawson will appear. It has been revealed that Dawson is a relative of D.L.. Another hero, Elle (portrayed by Veronica Mars' Kristin Bell) will appear near the mid-season point and will possess significant skills involving electricity. These are the ones revealed thus far.

It's too early to speculate on much else, but matters will unfold.

I'm so glad that Australia is only getting this a week after you guys. I'll be able to go into a Heroes thread and not be completely overrun by spoilers that ruin the whole series, the spoilers will only ruin the next episode.

So, I started reading the first post by Crash and I had to stop because I'm only halfway through the first season. I just bought the box set and I'm definitely not disappointed. I just wish I would have bought it a week ago so I could have had enough time to watch all the episodes before the season premiere Monday night.

Does anyone know if NBC shows episodes on their website after they've already aired? I could always watch this one online after I finish the DVDs (as I don't have a TiVO).

I just hope that season two is going to be nearly as good as season 1. LOST pretty much showed how NOT to make a good sequel after season two.

Let's hope it's beginning of season 1 and not the finale of season 1 type of good. Just saying.

Last year, you could watch Heroes on NBC.com after the episode aired. I believe they even kept a couple of older episodes up, so you could catch up on a couple weeks at a time, but don't quote me on that as I may have been thinking Grey's Anatomy.

I'm pumped for this premiere tonight. This is THE show to be watching this year. Others are great too (House, Grey's Anatomy, etc.) but this one is top-notch.

My anticipation of the new season has been going on for weeks now. In reality, I mixed up the dates and thought that the new season was starting last week but I was mistaken.

Anyways I'm just so psyched for the premiere tonight and to learn the other secrets that may be at hand.

Yay, new season! Last season I read too much into spoilers. I'll try hard not to this time, to better my viewing experience.

I wonder if they'll continue doing those alternate reality games online with Hiro's blog, Hana's blog, primatech website, etc. That was such a handful to keep up with. (BTW, did they include any of that on the DVD for those who missed it?)

As for full shows on NBC.com.. I remember they started showing those online about mid-season. In any case, if you missed the show on TV or can't view them on NBC.com because you live in another country, I'm sure there will be those divx/xvid rips online and I'll try to keep you guys posted on those links.

Looks like everyone is going to be happy tonight, except the other channels.. and especially Anthony Anderson's new cop drama "K-ville". I have no idea how they're going to compete for the same timeslot.

No, those weren't included as extras. I'm somewhat disappointed by that. The set came with seven discs, but Disc 7 contained only one episode - the season finale. The rest of the disc is filled with "behind the scenes" documentary about stunts, special effects and the artist, Tim Sale. With all that leftover space, the comics would've been an excellent bonus.

Please do. I downloaded each one you posted. I'll do the same again.

Heroes Wiki has the archives for ALL the entries in Hiro's blog AND the 360 entries and websites., including the ones that were erased due to time paradoxes or seemingly erased time lines, like the 5 years later arc.

I check there cause I obviously can't join in the fun, what being in Australia now and all. But at least I can see what Hana and Hiro are up to via cyberspace.

Portal:Heroes 360 - Heroes Wiki

As for the comics, they will be releasing all the issues so far, I think, in hard cover book form soon. Amazon has it for preorders.

What an incredible way to start off season 2! :) My thoughts in the spoiler

Man I had to watch the season premier on a grainy little TV. Did anybody notice that particular languages had different styles of subtitling? Was there a point to that?

Ahah, I already have a theory to this, though it might be wrong.

Argh! It was on at 8:00 my time and not 9:00 as I had thought. So I just barely missed it tonight. Oh well...

Anyone have a well-seeded torrent of tonight's premiere episode so that I can catch up
before next Monday?

I like where you're going with that. It didn't even occur to me that he was wearing the same thing. I wonder...

Also, EFnet is always my best bet when looking for recent TV shows. Heroes is already up, too.

Thanks for that. I guess I'll post back here with my impressions later on.

As usual, Hiro's segments were definitely my favorite part of the episode. I loved his line "I broke history." Unfortunately, I'm now unable to take any scene of Claire facing off with the cheerleaders seriously after finding out that Hayden Panettiere is the lead in Bring It On: All or Nothing. That movie's plot was a little too close to her story in tonight's episode for my liking. Damn my job at Movie Gallery. :gonk:

Hmm, I must have missed that part, I didn't see/recognize Sylar at all. Where was he?

Also, I think we can safely post without spoilers after an episode has aired. This is the Heroes thread afterall.

They showed Sylar in their little promo for upcoming episodes.

As for using spoilers, last season I thought it'd be safe to not use em after the airing of the episode, but.. there are some users here who aren't living in the US to see it when it airs. Maybe we should give it a day or so for them to download it.

On another note, the only versions I've seen floating on the net so far are the 700MB ones and over. I haven't seen a 350MB one yet (well.. I have seen some on torrent sites, but people are saying they're fake.)

I'm not sure about season 2, but I got all my season 1 episodes from Demonoid with the naming scheme Heroes.S01E01.HDTV.XviD-LOL.avi (~350MB). Demonoid is down now though.

Yeah, there are some LOL versions out there that are flagged as being fake and possibly a virus.
How does everyone feel about getting the 700MB XOR version? :P

While talking about HEROES, any soundtrack available yet...?

HEROES Season 2

Episode 01

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This week's Comic
#52 Flying Blind, EE

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Wow, what a molasses-slow start to the 2nd season! I mean, sure I understand how they had to "set things up" so-to-speak, but there was absolutely no suspense or drama in this episode. They sucked all the drama out of the two characters getting the "black spot" as it were... I am going to have to wait and see how this season goes; hopefully once they're past this initial season 2 set-up they'll get back to their old story flow which was excellently paced.

At any rate, I still enjoyed the episode but I don't think there is any single episode of season 1 that I didn't enjoy more than this one.

Just something that amused me this episode:

"Okay class, turn on your bunsen burners... carefully. Now let's talk about Charles Darwin!"

lol, yea that was funny, I almost thought she was in a different class.

Nice eppy, nice pace, not sure if I like how they started though, creating the impression of us having missed a few beforehand. As already mentioned they will probably have an episode detailing what happened after the bomb.

Wow good point! I was wondering why the necklace looked so familiar! Holy smokes that's the most plausible theory yet, and it fits the best since everyone was wondering where the hatian disappeared to in the last few episodes of season 1.

Ah very true, that thought had not occurred to me at the time of my writing that, and it makes since due to Nathan having been taken by the Company in Season 1.

Once again good point. My memory is fuzziest on the details of what Takei said, and such, so I'd have to watch the episode again to get it all. That assassin will pretty much become Ando's number 1 target too.

Also, I used spoiler tags since I literally posted my message right after the show ended and figured there might still be folks in the other U.S. timezones as well as international timezones that were waiting for the show to come on, so I figured I'd air on the side of caution. If they aren't needed though, I'll stop using them.

I've already lost the plot for season 2. I take it a plague is around killing off the heroes? What's happening between the 'company'? I get lost very easily while watching things :(

Good theory about the necklace. Makes sense.

As for replicating DNA, I don't recall Nathan ever being captured. He was about to be, but flew away.

Takei said there are nine left, including him and Angela. Adding the deceased Linderman, Pa Petrelli, and Duveaux.. makes 12.

And BTW, there was only one body on the blood splattered pavement, Nakamura's.
How come they don't even put up a small fight? ..just grab and fall off the building. Same thing happened with round one of Sylar vs. Peter.

Nathan wasn't necessarily captured, but he did meet with Noah's boss quite a bit last season. Who's to say they didn't get a small sample then?

I think a more realistic approach would be that Angela (mommy petrelli) would have easily been able to secure a blood sample of her son's after he had been in a car accident of sorts.

If anything that is when/if they ever took a sample from Nathan, I'm betting

A compelling theory:

Yeah the episode was a little dry compare to the first season, but keep in mind, when the creators were asked what Season 2 is about, its no longer about Normal people doing extrodinary things, its extrodinary people trying to do normal things.

Its suppose to give a little of what The Incredibles have to go through when they have to try to be normal. Except this is abit darker in tone. That dinner table scene was just like the Dinner scene in Incredibles to me, cept alot of more awkward, which makes it even funnier.

And I also heard there IS gonna be an episode that flashes back to right after the bomb, entitled "Four Monthes ago", from HeroeWiki's Spoilers section.

And that is one cool theory, Crash London.

That new kid is such a stalker. There's short little comic about him (doesn't reveal much). The link to it is in my previous post.

Oh yeah, what's up with Two-Face/Nathan?
Somehow I felt that Candace was around.

But.. a lot of things could have happened during the 4 months gap that could explain a lot of things.

From the way it looks, he is just loving the power that he has been given.

Shit, I wish I could fly...and I don't really think he was stalking Claire, but more or less trying to confirm if she was 'special' too.

That, and earlier people were saying that this new kid has two puncture wounds in his neck, and COULD be working for the company...so...he might be keeping tabs on her or something.

Also to add some curiosity about what happened during the 4 months gap, anyone remember the scene with Peter 'cuffed in the shipping container with the Haitian's necklace?

When the guy was about to attack Peter, he countered. There was a bright light and crackling sounds. Definitely it wasn't TK. It could be Ted's powers.. or...

Everyone's passing it off as some kind of electricity, but when I saw it, I thought it was just the flashlight the guy was holding. You know, the light hitting the camera, and the flashlight being dropped, or tossed at the side of the container when he was thrown. I thought it was just TK, to be honest.

Then again, who knows? There IS a four-month gap there.

David Anders as Takezo Kensei is pretty cool. He was one of my favorites on Alias (Sark, for those who watched the show). I hope he has a substantial role throughout the season. Give me even more reason to watch this show (as if that's even needed!)

Yeah for a second I didn't realize it was Sark till it hit me lol. That guy is a great actor and I hope we see more of him.

Good theory about the Haitian, makes perfect sense now that its been mentioned.

They have definitely laid out the plot quite well in this first episode. Remember guys, this is the first episode. The first episode of Heroes was rather blah as well, I only got into it after the 4th episod if I recall.

Another thing I'd like to point out is at the beginning of the show, the first episode, it seemed as though it was giving some small flash fowards into what everyone was doing still. I mean immediately you knew that Matt was alive, Nathan was alive so forth and so on, and even though everyone had a strong feeling that most were going to live, there was another thing that puzzled me.

In that small frame of time, Nathan can be seen standing, fully shaved, but still with long hair, on top of the roof of the Deveux building, and what seems to be ashes all around, and the place looks pretty roughed up. I'm wondering if this is going to play a big part later on, and perhaps something still does go Boom.

Oh, I'm pretty sure there are still forces working to make the boom happen.

More on Peter 'zapping' the guy in the container:

Ted Sprague wasn't just radioactive, he could do EMP blasts too, as we learned in season one when he, Parkman, and Bennet escaped from the Company. Since this is the last power we saw Peter used, maybe that's just the 'most active' one, seeing as he lost his memory. Or had it taken, whichever the case may be.

Just more speculation, as always.

It's a new power, that we don't know of yet. I guess we'll know soon or when they backtrack to those 4 months.

and the proof.. If you watch the episode at nbc.com with the commentaries (with Tim Kring, Jeph Loeb, and Jack Coleman), during that zapping scene Kring says "Wha? how did he do that?.. I've never seen that power before.." and then Loeb confirms, "Nope."

Anyways regarding Nathan, what if the shot of his skin being all fucked up is his actual skin and there is some illusion to give him normal skin? There was that explosion..

Instead of all the Heroes parting ways and living their own lives, I think it'd be interesting if they all had planned something that we don't know of yet. Maybe the Bennetts, Nathan and Peter, Haitian, Mohinder, etc are all doing their part in bringing the Company down.

Also, I dunno if you guys remember Hana. Maybe her character wasn't popular enough to keep around. But the last we heard of her was last season when she helped Noah Bennett take down the Company's satellite. There were two ways for them to track our Heroes, their satellite and Molly. And now Hana is somewhere researching random stuff about Central America and some of Kensei.
link to Hana's blog

I just skimmed the thread so I dont know if anyone has said this or not. But judging from the comics it sounds like that mexican girl's "power" is being able to host a deadly virus.

A virus that could be harvested and used to perhaps create a cure or discover a way to make cells live longer. It's also a virus that could completely wipe out all of mankind. But it doesn't look like it has anything to do with the virus targeting those with special abilities. D:

I suppose I really need to go back and read the comics sometime. It's really annoying how they have characters like Hana that play an important role in the story, but I know nothing about them because I just want to watch the show. Nice to know that it's looking like I was right about her having a virus power, though. Much cooler than the other possibilities.

HEROES Season 2

Episode 02

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This week's comic:
#53 The Crossroads, EE

Typing this all in spoilers, too tired to really discuss anything >.>

Maya and Ally there:



The KILLER:



Bout the only two things I remember worthwhile for discussion...other than Claire cutting her pinky toe off...lawl...

A theory about the killer:

First of all, I'm going to mention the Helix drawn on Kaito and Angela's photos. They looked quite different... The one on Kaito's photo looked almost scrawled on. It was messy. The one on Angela's was very neatly drawn, with smooth lines. Different 'killers', maybe? Screenshots attached at the bottom of the post.

I read somewhere [maybe it was here, I don't remember] that at some point, Angela tries to take the blame for something Nathan did [or does]. Now... when Parkman and his boss are on the Devaux rooftop, he mentions to Parkman: "Looks like he took off and flew away... Know anyone who can do that?"

What if the person who killed Kaito is Nathan? On the same line of thought, at the police station where they were questioning Angela... She had called Nathan there. Maybe to give him an alibi for not being the killer. Did Angela do that to herself? Maybe something we saw there is related to what her power is?

Also, I liked how she yelled 'GET OUT OF MY HEAD!' at Parkman. The look on both of their faces was just priceless.

About Claude:

I did not like this episode at all. As has been for all the episodes this season, the dialog with Claire's scenes is just atrocious and, this week, that's where most of the airtime went. Peter's scenes are generally the most redeemable (this week was no exception for me), but even those weren't really impressive.


All in all, pretty weak.

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Episode 03

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This week's comic:
#54 Petrified Lightning, EE

Man, Striped Phantom: Thanks for the links to the episodes. Even though the channel that shows Heroes have done the "un-Australian" and viewed them pretty close to the US, it still doesn't change the fact that it isn't directly screened from the US. So cheers for the links, bro ^_^.

Anyways, I will post in this thread once I finished downloading this episode. Glad to be able to join the thread for once!

I didn't mind this episode at all. I think it's getting better than the previous ones.

Regarding Candice:

Yeah, about that whole Syler/Candice thing.

This episode was pretty bad. I couldn't stop laughing at the flying scene when West demonstrated his powers, like it was something from Disney. The island that Sylar was on was perhaps the worst looking CG ever. Also, the end with the Noah Bennett painting felt quite forced, as have many of the endings this season.

HEROES Season 2

Episode 04

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This week's comic:
#55 The Trial of the Black Bear, EE

Oh god, all this recent mushy-mushy-kissy stuff is making the show painful to watch.

Are we watching the same show? Claire's story is admittedly corny and uninteresting, but we already know that'll get interesting once Noah meets Flying Kid. None of the other parts have really been laying it on thick.

I'm a little confused though.

Yeah, makes me want to hurl.
This season is having a bad start..

I thought that kid would have seen Claire's dad when he almost ran her over in the parking lot.

No Jason Bourne Peter scenes this episode.. or Hiro..
Maybe showcasing some characters an episode is better than trying to cram them all into one ep, but they need to step up on the writing.

edit:
Next week should be a treat no matter how bad the writing could be. Kristen Bell is finally making an appearance!

BTW, anyone else catching the show on TV? I really think the promos they show are pretty retarded.
"What's in... [whisper] the box!!?? [/whisper]" and how they actually have to say Kristen Bell is joining the cast.

I agree with everyone who said Claire is boring. She is getting on my nerves. Everytime I see her, I am like "God, just fucking die!", but then, I realize that she cannot die. And that sucks.

Haha, you guys will love this week's comic. (link in my previous post)

I love that they've gone with that style to depict Kensei and Hiro's personalities.

I don't have a problem with Claire and her boyfriend, but I'm worried about the potential schmaltz in the New Orleans storyline. Ok, yes, Katrina happened and people are suffering, but I watch TV for escapism, and don't care to see it worked into the plot unless there's some purpose other than reminding us to donate to charity.

Is anyone else becoming annoyed that they're recycling powers? Another guy that flies, another person that can heal, and now another girl who can instantly learn (a little different from book girl last season, but close enough).

NBC promos for dramatic shows have gotten progressively worse the past few years. Last year, it was mostly ER that got the over the top drama guy voice, but this year they're doing it with every show.

The "What's in the box?" promo was definitely the best, since Peter didn't even open the freaking box. I'm just happy they didn't think up a new tagline to be used for half of season 2 like "Save the cheerleader, save the world."

I liked "Save the cheerleader, save the world". It was catchy, and actually featured prominantly in the show. The problem with promos these days is they'll make a huge deal out of an object or a throwaway line, and then when the show actually airs, it has nothing to do with anything. A little misdirection is fine, but the whole idea of a "next week on ______" promo is to give you a taste of what's coming next, not to lead you off in an entirely wrong direction.

Oh man I swear next time Claire is dating this mega faggot I will stop watching this shit

I want the Twins to get killed. Very soon, preferrably.

yeah for the flying guys again i was a little annoyed, but I'm not sure if Nathan still has the power to fly. His weird reflection in mirror is intriguing. Has for the girl that can learn, I think she can only learn fast from the Television, because both time she was watching TV when she learn something, it's either that or she has like a very good "photo-memory".

I suspect that maybe "the company" is actually recycling power and giving them to others, I don't know...

I'm annoyed that they decided to add New Orleans into the picture. Any other city would have been fine. I'm from Louisiana and watching these actors pretend to be southerners is irritating. Especially the overly optimistic black girl. The lack of subsequent accents and how actors deliver dialog is usually what makes television shows fail in realism. I've gotten used to it in Heroes since its over all a great series, but this time they've gone and hit a new level of fakeness.

So far, I have been ridiculously disappointed with the second season. I rather enjoyed the first after watching it on DVD, but the second season has just been a soap opera. Hopefully it will get better.

Speaking of that subplot, I finally got around to catching up on some Chuck last night, and was somewhat weirded out to notice that the same actor plays the manager of Buy-More and the manager of Burger Bonanza. Different networks, I could deal, but the shows are on the same network back-to-back.

Yeah, same here. It kind of sucks. But I didn't give up yet!

However, the Haitian nigger black skinned guy made his first and only joke ever, but it was a rather good one:

HRG: "Odessa, Texas?"

The Haitian: "No Odessa, Ukraine."

lol!

I guess I'm going against the flow here in that I like Season 2 so far. True, it's starting off slow, but then so did Season 1. I'm sure it will start picking up in an episode or two now that Matt has more of a reason for being around other than to read Molly's mind while she's sleeping. And I was actually glad that there weren't any Hiro scenes in this recent ep *puts on flame protection suit* BUT I will admit that his scenes have been getting better lately!

The only thing that keeps me going with Claire's scenes is that I'm waiting for West (or is it Wess?) to then contact Bob from the company and report in on Claire when she's all off in la-la land over her "new" life.

Being somewhat of a wrestling fan, I loved it when that girl did the 619 to the robber! And I don't even like Rey Mysterio that much. Still nice sly cross promoting there!

I still feel that the biggest weakness that the show has is that they kill off people too quickly or that it's often the reason to remove a character from the show. Instead of having them disappear somewhere for awhile only to return and make a big bomb splash of a twist it's more like: New power? Sylar fodder. Don't have a power? We'll find a way kill you anyways. That's what I liked more about the 4400. The continuous story had very few deaths within the main cast, and thus characters who have died have their deaths made a little more meaningful. Looking forward to next week's episode all the same though.

I'm a big fan of season 1 - but like most of you, I am really disappointed by this new season. Every scene just seems to be a re-cap of what happened last week. By the time the audience is "caught-up", it's time to go to the next scene, which will re-cap what happened last week.

Isn't that the point of the "previously on?" segment?

Entertainment Weekly had a good column this week called "Fallen Heroes". They hit the nose on the head.

HEROES Season 2

Episode 05

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#56 Molly's Dream, EE

Needs more Sylar and the stupid amnesia storyline to gtfo. I want Sylar vs Peter MK. II please. I am loving Nathan this season though. Easily the best thing about S2.

In my mind, Nathan always was the most interesting character. That hasn't changed this season.

I enjoyed the last episode of heroes by far the most. I'm not sure whether that's a result of something actually happening, or the show not containing any scenes involving Claire's angsty teen romance. The preview also left me with high hopes for next week. It seems like the beginning of the season was merely introducing us to the situations the heroes found themselves in 5 months after the blast, but now the show is starting to actually have some plot.

What I want to know is, what is up with Nathan seeing his face all destroyed like it is? I mean, was he close enough to Peter that he was disfigured, and then had surgery to recorrect it? Or is it his guilt that is getting the best of him?

On another note, I can't even remember her name, but Micah's cousin or whatnot...she has the ability to 'copy' whatever she sees. Does this mean only physical things? Or if she sees a power she'll be able to do that as well?

I can't stand how they keep adding characters. The key to making a good show isn't adding new characters out the ass, it's developing the characters you already have. I think the biggest problem with this new season (besides the soap opera bullshit) is that I don't think that any of the characters have been developed at all since last season's finale.

Micah referred to her as a "muscle mimic", implying that her muscles are involuntarily performing actions. If that's the only augmentation she has, then she would be unable to mimic powers like flight or healing, i.e., powers that the human body isn't normally capable of doing.

Well, if anything can be agreed on, it is that Season 1 can be viewed as a self-contained masterpiece.

I'm hoping Season 2 will pick up the pace soon, too, but at least the first season had a goal and a conclusion, like 24. I like this much better than other shows like Lost or Alias, where they don't really finish "arcs" and instead rely on the entire series to be viewed as a whole.

Thanks for the links striped! Managed to get the ep downloaded before I left for work this morning.

Good episode, and I love how more events are finally happening. Although I now think Mohinder is the biggest moron on the show. Did he forget that just a little while back, the company was going to use Molly to locate any and all people who have abilities?! Now they're only a step away from doing that once they'll inevitably bring her out of her coma like state. I really hope that reality hits him hard.

It's really looking more and more likely that Peter's story is going to stay in or around Europe for most of the season until he has a reason to travel back to New York. Why he didn't think, "hey the box didn't tell me anything, maybe I should return to New York where I'm from." is beyond me.

Reason to travel back to New York? It's pretty obvious that he's going to be going to Montreal. The intersection they showed in the painting is real and the big church in the background is likely the Notre-Dame Cathedral. It's going to be really fun to see them running around the city - assuming they actually shot that part of the show on location here.

Haha what in the hell, this episode was wack.

My new favorite characters are Twoface Petrelli and whoever Kristen Bell plays http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsys...ot-suicide.gif

True, but before he saw that painting all he had was his origin from new york and a montreal plane ticket. Personally, if I were in his shoes, it would've been new york, not montreal.

Oh, so it really is Montreal? I figured with the French and our current New Orleans storyline, that the street was actually in New Orleans.

Nope, it's Montreal. You can't really see the cathedral from that intersection though. There's kinda 3 blocks or so worth of buildings in between... but anyway

I think that towards teh end of the season, with the way everything is playing out....Peter is probably going to have to end up battling both Sylar, and Matt's Dad...

In the heat of the fight, Peter's little girlfriend is killed...

Peter goes Super Saiyen, end of season 2

Wow. That episode was horrible. Whoever they have writing dialog for the show needs to be shot. There weren't many scenes that I could watch and avoid cringing. Without a clear bad guy, the show just seems pointless and with no plot direction. The scenes with Hiro in the past, all of Claire's scenes, and Mica's cousin's scenes are all pretty huge disappointments.

You have to admit the scene with Mr. Bennett killing the Russian guy was awesome, even if the rest of the episode was only so-so. Now that Hiro has altered the past, there's some potential for that storyline as well, though I don't see how it will tie in to everything else.

What's up with New York being the center of the disaster again (with such horrible blue screen effects, too)? This season has had a huge emphasis on showing far flung locations, and they couldn't pick a new spot for the epicenter of the action?

HEROES Season 2

Episode 06

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I like how she's not gonna be able to charge that iPod because he didn't give her an iPod USB cable.

I wonder, could Micah connect it for her? Or she could get Electronica Mars to just charge it herself.

For those wondering, the bit in Montreal wasn't shot on location. They green screened it.

yeah lol it looked so fake XD it's sad, it's seem they will not stay there really long, that's why I think they didn't shot it on location

Well at least now the second season has some semblance of direction.

Uh-oh :erm:!

The guy with the turned face in the group photo is the Petrelli dad.
My guess is that they turned the face because the dad was suppose to look a lot like Nathan, according to the comics (where Petrelli and Linderman were in Vietnam.)

Yeah, a lot of it was fake. The Mexican car ride, the exterior shots in Ukraine, Montreal, and the future NY. They all have this weird brightness to it.

Actually, I'm wondering if the reason Hiro isn't back yet is because he screwed up history.

He might have created an alternate time line because of what he's done to Kensei. Ando is living in the time line where Kensei saves the girl and defeats White Beard, whereas now Hiro is in an alternate time line where Kensei collaborates with White Beard and destroys the surrounding villages or something to that effect.

Nah, if Hiro creates an alternate timeline, apparently Ando would know about it and the world would change around him. It makes no sense, but that's what they established in season 1 when Ando noticed that Hiro suddenly got into the waitress's birthday photograph and no one else found it strange.

If that's true, then how are they reading it from the sword?

I'm betting that Hiro "is" the Kensei of the stories. And the "Kensei" that is the white dude in the past, will turn out to be the mastermind of "The Company" or at least some organization. I also think that he is still alive in the current modern timeline. A great example is how Hiro's dad died. Whatever dude pushed him off the building could either fly or heal like Claire. It'd make perfect sense.

Hm yeah. Maybe Kensei's power keeps him alive for hundreds of years, which would be perfect to match up "the symbol" to all of the death threats and what not.

You be straight ballin'.

This episode actually didn't suck. It might have had something to do with the plot actually moving forward for once. The past storyline might actually be redeemable if Kensei turns out to be a total badass in the present.

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Episode 07

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Best ep so far.

I've got to agree this by far the best episode on Season 2.

What's nice is that I know he can play a good villain from his whole run on Alias as "Sark."

I wish we would get some resolution on the stupid West subplot. As in, I wish he would die already.

Well considering that

And I like Monica from what I've seen from her so far, especially the potential of her powers.

Though I am concern that there's gonna be too many character and story arcs to juggle, I mean we got several villains and other new side characters introduced, along with Season 1's core cast.

Also:

And kudos on TheReverend for calling on the plot twist with Kensei. Nice work!

Now that we've come to a big plot point, I have a feeling next week is going to steer away from the current story, and they might pull a 'Five Months Earlier' episode. Beh.

Are you sure you didn't google this before you posted? Cause that's what they're doing in the next episode.

Except is 4 months, not 5.

Also seems like Kring actually listens to fans. All the critisim mentioned by you guys in the initial episodes is here in this interview. And while the episodes to me weren't garbage and I like Monica, I do agree with every single point.

''Heroes'' creator to fans: I'm super sorry | Heroes | Television News | TV | Entertainment Weekly

I just wanna say.. the newest vid on Hana's blog ( http://samantha48616e61.com/ ) is pretty cool. Seeing the explosion from another angle is kinna neat. You can see peter falling and nathan catching him too..

Also, are Nathan's and West's powers more different than they seem? At first I thought they were the same, being able to fly. But now that I think about it, Nathan has always flown very, very fast. When we see West fly it's pretty slow and calm.

Like in that video, Nathan shoots off like a fucking rocket. West moves like a turtle in comparison.

I'd chalk that up to Nathan being new to using his powers, and not having as much control over them as West. Plus, have we seen a situation with Nathan where he hasn't needed to take off in a hurry? Also, didn't West take off like a rocket when he and Claire met up for their first date to avoid Noah?

Nope, no Google! I knew from the beginning of the season that there was going to be such an episode somewhere in the season, but I didn't really know when. I just took a guess at next week, because of what's going on in the different plotlines... They did it last season, too.

It's been speculated that in that explosion.. (with a little proof)

Its kinda hard to tell who saved who till next episode cause both brothers are able to fly, with Peter being a Mimic and all...

And the possible clash with the Haitian is said to also involve Elle, that electrical girl. Least thats what I heard from synopsis online.

I have a random question. What is the relationship between Sylar and cockroaches? There's a cockroach when he breaks out of the prison HRG held him in; when he vanishes into the sewer at the end of season 1; and when he kills the American traveling with him and the illegals. Any thoughts?

Before season 2 began, I thought they might have something to do with the “bad man” Molly mentioned during the season 1 finale but now I know that is not the case.

I keep thinking that Nathan was obviously scarred in the explosion with Peter. However, he's also been healed, or at least had his visage reformed. I doubt that it's an illusion, since the damage has been hidden in various situations and around various people. This leaves me only one theory:

I think it may be an allusion to the first episode when Mohinder talks about cockroaches being the pinnacle of evolution. Given the way Sylar obsesses about constantly acquiring new powers--"evolving"--the comparison between Sylar and cockroaches makes sense.

Edit: Also see this Wiki entry for further info: Cockroach - Heroes Wiki

HEROES Season 2

Episode 08 - Four Months Ago

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Oh man that episode was awesome. Reminds me of the same kind of win that composed the first season.

Kristen Bell is hawt!
I can't believe there's only going to be 3 eps until the end.

Agreed the boobs was there for extra <3

Are you kidding?

That episode was one of the worst I've ever seen!

The time-spans of 4/3/2/1 months ago were completely unrealistic, they should have just done "4 months ago" and left it at that. It took Peter a full month, 30 days, to just talk to Adam?? And then another month before Adam says "you'd better watch out for her, you're in a prison"???

D.L. getting shot was the most incredibly stupid way for him to go. He gets killed by a no-name character introduced in the last 30 seconds and doesn't have the brains to "dissolve" in dangerous areas like that? Really stupid. Really lazy writing.

This episode took away any of the cool build-up of the previous episode. Did we even learn anything new of any importance, like we did in "6 Months Ago" from last season? Not really, this was just an attempt to recycle that idea, and it had no point. Boo, Heroes. BOOOOOOOOO.

But wait! Regarding Adam,



This episode had its moments, but I missed alot of other story arcs that could have really benefitted a flashback.



The last few episodes before the sudden finale better be damn good. But at least from my last post, Tim Kring regonised all the problems we mentioned before, he prob will see these ones too.

And yes, Elle was awesome.

Cult - News - Tim Kring: 'We have a real finale' - Digital Spy

I liked this episode, though like Jazzflight said, the time jumps for Peter were very poorly done.

Well, we did finally receive confirmation that Niki's power is general spirit channeling and not just her sister. It's nice to know that eventually her character might not be quite so lame and useless. That may have already been shown in the comics, but I haven't read any of those.

While the Mohinder/Noah showdown will be interesting (hopefully resulting in one less Mohinder), I'm looking forward to seeing how Hiro travelling back to save his father will pan out. If he actually does manage to stop Kensei on the rooftop it would change a lot of what's happened so far this season. Maybe enough to actually wrap this up well in only 3 episodes.

Uh where in the episode was it implied that Niki was spirit channeling? Seems like old fashioned Split personality to me.

The fact that she channeled some other old friend with no actual powers rather than Jessica this time?

Besides, Bob gave her the same pills as Peter to stop her powers. Why would he give those for split personality disorder? Even if he wasn't lying, eliminating the original cause wouldn't even begin to fix the disorder.

Ok wait, I must have missed something from the episode, where was it indicated that Gina was some old friend she had?

To sort everyone out here:

Gina said she was just the alias Niki used when she hung out in Las Vegas sometime in her past.

Seems more like split personality than spirit channeling.

Niki's power is just super human strenght. The split personnality is just a result of her not being able to accept that power, so she hided it in herself until her mind broke in another personnality that just borrowed the name of her sister. Bob all said that in this episode. even if she can control Jessica, it was just a matter of time before another personnality was created. Like Jazz just said, gina is the alias she use in L.A. that's why Gina wanted to return there...

Oh, gotcha. In that case, Niki's place as the second worst person with abilities is cemented (first place going to Claire's boyfriend). Still, Bob's medication solution made zero sense for treating split personalities.

Sure it makes sense. The pills turn her powers off. With her power off her brain doesn't have to struggle with having that power. So there's no need for a split personality. Get it?

Despite time flaws, the episode was awesome (or maybe it was just Veronica Mars). <3 Too bad there was nothing on Sylar though. We're still left hanging after the most badass line of the season: "You don't understand me, but once I get my powers back and I figure out what the fuck it is your sister exactly does I am going to kill you kthx."

So I guess we're very close to Sylar getting his powers back (assuming he was on these pills too) since it took Niki a few days to gain hers back. Then Alejandro will be totally dead.

I felt this way too. D.L. reflexively phased out when the anonymous guy threw a punch. Why wouldn't he do the same when a gun is pressed against his frontside? You could argue that he wouldn't want a stray bullet to hit anyone else behind him but that's still rather flimsy rationalization. Leonard Roberts obviously didn't leave the show for ulterior reasons, as he was willing to reprise D.L. for the past two episodes (Unlike Missy Peregrym, who played Candice Wilmer and left to star in "Reaper".)

If this is how they're handling pivotal arcs like the deaths of main characters, I can't imagine how sloppily Season Two will conclude.

Just don't kill anyone? *wink*

HEROES Season 2

Episode 09 - Cautionary Tales

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(Mohinder is such a dumbass..)

Hail Mr Bennet.

I heard there was a rumor that Ali Larter couldn't stand Leonard Roberts and so they decided to ax D.L. Because there is no other logical reason to kill of his character.

Then again:

Ali Larter must want to return to her lucrative movie career making Final Destination 4.

I missed this post earlier, but yeah, that solution still makes no sense. Multiple personalities don't vanish just because a simple cause like her power goes away. Not immediately like they seemed to think, at least. Plus, based on what Jessica said about "their" father, her power was only one of several causes anyway.

Actually, I think that's what the writers were slowly working toward, bringing Elle over toward working for less selfish reasons, if only as an act of rebellion against her father. It's a way of making her more sympathetic to viewers.

Noah Bennet was/is one of my favorite characters, as he seems to be one of the most genuine. However, I was fully prepared to see and accept his death. Keeping Noah alive via this method almost feels like a cop-out, as it grants immunity to nearly any beloved character. It now feels very hypocritical that D.L. was allowed to die in such a flimsily written manner.

I've begun to suspect that the whole plotline involving Maya, Alejandro and Sylar will not be wrapped up this season, as last night's episode didn't touch upon them at all and there's still the whole "Shanti Virus" matter to resolve within two episodes. Personally, I doubt anything will be fully brought to closure in that time. It seems more likely that the writers, knowing there was an impending strike, will end the shortened Season 2 on a powerful cliffhanger, giving themselves some leeway to resolve the unfinished plotlines at a future date.

Lastly, Kaito Nakamura is officially deceased and even Hiro won't prevent it. Is it too much to ask that we finally learn what Kaito's power was? And Angela Petrelli, also? C'mon, this season was supposed to focus upon the elder generation. Throw us a bone.

I agree Crash Landon, although we did learn about the cop's dad at least, and you can't discount the Adam revelation as he was part of the "older crowd." (MUCH older lol!)

Still, I think that they haven't built up to the Shanti Virus enough to conclude it in 2 episodes. It's just a back-story, not really important, not like the "bomb" from season 1 was. This whole season feels slow at the start, and rushed at the end.

I have a feeling that Angela is a Soothsayer kind of like Parkman, because of the sound effects that played while she was speaking with Nathan's wife while he was in the hospital (considering she easily convinced Petrelli's wife to accept some cock-and-bull schpiel).

But that's just a guess.

And yes, this season is going to feel rushed. There are 3 unfilmed episodes as a result of the WGA strike, so they're going to conclude it on a cliffhanger that may not answer all the questions that the season brought about. Kind of sad, really... but I guess you can't blame writers for wanting to make more than $200k/year when studio heads make TEN MILLLLLLLION DOLLARS.

(although I'd take $200k/year easy).

This strike has caused me to lose any respect I might have previously had for screenwriters. It's like they couldn't be bothered to think the thing through. "I know, let's have a strike so that TV shows will end halfway through their normal seasons! That will get the public on our side, cutting them off like that!"

knk, not every screenwriter wanted to strike. In fact, a considerable portion was against it because they were satisfied with their positions. However, being a screenwriter in this day requires you to become a member of the Screenwriters Guild. When the Guild chooses to strike, members either join in or become blacklisted. Union politics are brutal.

It's quite possible that the Heroes writers didn't want to strike, that they wanted to write this season through to a fully-crafted conclusion but couldn't due to pressures from the Guild.
(Personally, I doubt this, since there's been an enormous amount of online content for Heroes and increased royalties from new media sources is one of the Guild's pet issues. But you never know.)

I know about union politics, Crash, I was just painting with broad strokes.

The last two, three episodes were pretty good. At least you have to use your brain again in order to follow the plot.

Good thing
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HEROES Season 2

Episode 10 - Truth & Consequences

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So no one is going to talk about the random stupidity in this episode?

Bwa-ha-ha, this was the worst episode. Literally everything everyone's doing is completely retarded. I dunno.

^ Not untrue.

I like how Hiro and Peter need to fight to the death now.

"Bad guy!"

"Goooooood guy!"

"AhhhhHHHHHhhhhhHHHHH!!!!!"

Kinda does suck having to squeeze in 10 more episodes into two or three...I'm sure if we would have had an entire season things would have been much better.

Well with Chandra's old theory that "it's in the brain", destroying the brain before the regeneration could kick in would make that somewhat plausible.

I'm not arguing that at some point, there won't be enough of a body left to regenerate, but why specifically the head/brain? When Claire got a spike through her head last season, once she pulled it out she recovered. If you lopped off Adam's head, what's to say that the head itself wouldn't generate a new body?

Lopped off his head? Yeah, it would probably grow a new body. But in this ep, Victoria was going to blow up the head with her shotgun.

In season one, Claire's power was stopped when that twig was stuck in her head. And Peter's power also stopped with that glass shard. Even Sylar goes after the brain for powers.

What I don't get is, why would Claire or Adam's blood be able to regenerate people if powers come from the brain?
Also, is there some Haitian blood in those Haitian pills Peter took to negate his powers? (eew) They never said where those came from.

I think the arguement is that if you destroy the brain then you can't regenerate. The part that gives people their powers is located in the brain (which kinda confused me as in Five Years Later Mohinder said it was built into their DNA. If it's built into their DNA, how can it be located in the brain?) Anyway, no brain = power gone. Claire's brain wasn't destroyed, just damaged so she could regenerate once the catalyst was removed (the branch).

You know what I thought was stupid in the latest episode?

You know how Monica was trying to get Micah's backpack back from those thugs in the middle of the night by sneaking into the thugs' house? When the thugs arrived, why the hell didn't she just climb out of the window and hide on the roof or something instead of being all fancy and shit and hiding by clinging onto the ceiling? That was just retarded.

Because there wouldn't be any ::omg drama:: if she didn't get grabbed by the thugs. Yo.

The tags for next week's finale keep stressing that two heroes will be killed. Now, their definition of "hero" has always been pretty loose, as there was a bit of similar fanfare before the episode in which Sylar killed Candace Willmer. Candace worked for The Company, so I'd hardly call her a hero, but whatever. NBC must define it as simply possessing a power, not by actual alignment.

Anyhow, who do you suppose is going to bite the dust next week?

My first guess is Niki Sanders. As someone said, she wants off the show. She's infected with the Shanti virus, so it's very possible they've scripted some lame resolution in which killing Niki prevents the virus from spreading.

My second guess is harder to nail down, but I'm thinking it's Maya. They already killed Alejandro off, and Maya has demonstrated that her power can be controlled without Alejandro, and that makes it useful to Sylar. It's logical that Sylar had been fed the same power-suppressing meds that Peter was taking, since Candace was with The Company. Their effects wore off approximately five days after Peter stopped the doses, so Sylar is probably reaching the same point. He'll find he has his powers again - perhaps with Candace's illusion ability to boot - then kill Maya.

It's just as well. I found Maya and Alejandro to be quite dull.

ALEJANDRO!

I'm gonna miss those screams.

Or why didn't she use her amazing karate-whatever moves she used in the restaurant. I thought that was the whole point of her power.

You know I thought about this as well, but, if her power has something to do with watching something, and then being able to do it, mimicry, then perhaps her body can only do what she has most recently seen. Meaning she woudln't be able to cut tomatoes like that after she watched how to jump up shit.

I thought she showed Micah her "amazing tomato cutting power" to him a few episodes after she first did it. She might be able to store powers for later use? Maybe we'll see her kick their asses on the finale.

Don't worry he's not dead, he will regenerate ;)

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I hope next weeks episode will be better, this weeks episode was total shit

I can't believe how abysmall the most recent episode was (note: this posted before the season finale). It's a stark contrast with the one before it - a triumphant return to form somehow leading into a complete failure of an effort. I don't like to throw the term 'abortion' around when it comes to creative media (and since this episode was technically finished, I suppose it would be incorrect), but if I could find a term that vehement, I would use it. The flaws in this episode were all too abundant, and very evident as the episode progressed - this being one of the only times I could watch the show and rip apart its construction and failings, rather than enjoying it. Hayden's (Claire's) acting is TERRIBLE as of late - whether she's getting worse, or she's always been this bad and I just haven't noticed, I have no idea. If Alejandro really did die, and isn't brought back by some cheesy 'resurrection' BS (which would be just as bad), his death felt entirely random and pointless. I'm all for Sylar and such like, but still, the entire thing was stupid - that, along with the advent of Maya controlling her power, made Alejandro useless anyay. The Heroes writers are really screwing themselves over as far as world logic goes when it comes to powers and how they work.

Oh, and the end scene between Hiro and Peter? Completely nonsensical, they are both acting completely out of their traditional personality archetypes... and if Hiro dies because of some horrible character writing, I shall be very put out.

Praying for redemption in some fashion come the season finale. I guess I'll find out tonight.

I'll admit the episodes haven't been great as of late, but seriously, I don't understand why there is so much hate for them.

Because of the writer's strike, they have had to cram an entire series worth of shows, 120 hours of story, into 3 final episodes. Does anyone not realize this? Or am I completely wrong in thinking that because of the writer's strike, the writer's of the show were completely pressured into getting as much of the season in as they could before it went on?

I'm willing to bank the entire season would have panned out to be quite awesome IF they had the time to better perfect the writing.

I have to say that the ending just blew me away! I think it was a perfect way to close the season and I didn't saw it coming!

Thank you, local NBC affiliate, for interrupting Heroes to let me know there's a hostage situation in a house somewhere and that you currently have no details at all about it. Truly an informative break-in. I especially enjoyed the 10 seconds of dead air at the end with nothing but the camera on a silent reporter.



Other than that interruption, great episode tonight. Not sure why Peter didn't just demonstrate his powers at the end though. I guess his idiocy hadn't quite worn off yet.

That's not right. There were 3 episodes to this season that hadn't yet been scripted. The "season finale" that we saw tonight wasn't intended to be the real finale. But the producers said that they felt like this episode was strong enough to suffice as the end of this season, as it concluded a few major plot elements, and created a few more questions to have for next season. There may be more episodes filmed that follow the finale, but they won't be aired this season because there isn't another good stopping point, not to mention the originally planned finale isn't written nor filmed. I suspect that there are going to be some rewrites and the like to make the beginning of next season flow a little bit better (or we might just have a really awesome first few episodes, which the show may need if we don't get any new episodes until Fall 2008, with this strike).

ANYWAY...

Finale was decent, although not as good as last season by any means. It leaves plenty of questions, but of course...everything is open-ended. Great cliffhangers. And I don't know how it's possible that I can just keep hating Angela more and more every episode. Crazy bitch.

That wasn't too good. I've hated this entire season pretty much. It also sucks that what was going to be a 30-episode season (more or less) became an 11 episode season.

I'm hoping that they'll get their act together and make season 3 more like season 1.

Good thing that vial fell in slow motion so Peter could run to it on time, on foot, from halfway down a corridor.

it's not like there was a splitscreen showing the events happening at the same time. stuff happens concurrently but at different times on television quite a bit!

Besides, when you have a hero with time travelling abilities, things like "better catch that!" have a bit less suspense involved.

Some many stupid things *urgh*:
1) Hiro still doesn’t say he is trying to release the virus and instead goes on about his father. Way to make an argument Hiro.

2) Peter is still a gullible idiot how many people need to tell you that Adman is evil before you get the hint. By my count it was four, four come on.

3) The let expose ourselves since that will so take the heat off of us idea still doesn’t make since. Ya the company will stop hunting you only to be replaced by every other government agency, scientists, religious wackos who think you are the second coming, media tabloids and basically everyone.

4) Clarie’s blood= life 2 on command is a worse plot deceive than I thought, first of all it ruined Nathans execution since we all know peter could bring him back he has the same ability as Claire and Adman, so the scene went from “omg they killed him” to “think Peter try using your blood just like Adam did” not nearly as dramatic but that just the beginning of this horrible idea:

5) They used it to bring back Maya. Maya! The one I was cheering Sylar on for killing!. Somebody decapitate Claire before her blood brings back anymore people who should stay dead.

6) Speaking about Maya many have talked about how they feel that Heroes has sexist and/pr racist undertones in some of it characters, I thought they were over reacting then I met Maya a character straight out of a bad telanovela if I ever saw one. BTW what was the point of the twins again? To give Slyer a ride? At the end of the volume 2 and that all I can see.

7) New Orleans was again totally irrelevant to the main plot and the climax is that Nikki died at least her death was better than DL’s.

8) Speaking of Nikki it annoys me how Doh’inder only seems to have her in mind. OK you give a psychopath the ability to regain an arsenal of deadly abilities and all you think is “OMG Nikki” Not "OMG if he injects that he’ll be unstable" not "OMG what if he tries to blow up New York like he might have four months ago". This was the same problem I had with him killing HRG to continue his research he never mentioned to HRG the gravity of finding a cure no “it could mutate again” he talked about saving a women, do you secretly want to fuck Nikki or something? Seeing this shortsightedness especially when we know the stakes doesn’t make Mohinder look particularly bright.

9) All this seasons the company seemed much weaker something about the boss, his daughter, and Mohinder seemly being the only top level people in it. This epi keeps making them look like idots, this safe place isn’t really that any safer then a bank assuming you know where it is, because you know bank security have guns and not just nightsticks. Your protecting the deadliest thing on the plant (stored safely in a high school biology glass vile) with nightsticks!? You are not doing a good job of being a big bad company here fellows. Honestly, were we supposed to be impressed by Peter and Adam fighting their way in, I was laughing at how underpowered their opponents were.

10) Ok back to Peter, Earth to Peter you can read mother-fucking minds. Why where we not show him at least trying to do that to Adam. The big problem with have a character with so many powers, you can’t having him do what the plot demands without having him look like a total idiot. I could fanwack that he still has problems controlling his powers but after he easily used Ted’s power the one whose inability for him to control was a major plot point I really can’t do that anymore. On the same note, you can phase through walls why did you not do that instead of wearing yourself out with TK?

I could keep going but ya I think you get the hint did not like the final, only expectation my speculation that HRG was the assassin who did the deed, did not like the season, will likely not be watching volume 3,

It was really cool how Peter decided it would be better to rip the door off the vault instead of just walking through the wall. Oh wait, then how would there be a {not at all} tense standoff between Hiro and Adam.

Oh don't worry about Nathan getting shot. Peter will just go back in time and hand his brother a bulletproof vest, so he'll be alright.

I was hoping at some point they'd kill Peter (shistorm), remove him from the main plot, or make him lose his powers. Dude is waaaaay to powerful, and every episode people are like "why didn't he just --?" and the answer is always something contrived like, "well, he didn't think that such and such would happen this way and he wasn't really trying to do this and that." He is potentially the most powerful character and he's limited only by how stupid the writers choose to make him.

Also I like how he never really solved his radioactivity problem. Last season he was ready to go boom as soon as he looked at Ted Sprague, and eventually that power did overcome him. This season he seems to have mastered it - considering it's never been a problem since his first explosion - even though he's never had the opportunity to even try to control it properly, especially since a good portion of his time he was in a prison, suppressing his powers just because he thought he was too dangerous. Realistically he should still be a potential nuclear bomb.

There was the part where Elle said she lost Sylar... while standing right in front of Molly. The one person who can find anyone in the world just by thinking about them.

That made me go wtf?!

I think you guys are expecting too much from a show that had its writers ditch it mid way through. Every show on television is suffering.

I think a lot of the problem people have with the show at this point is stuff like "The powers of such and such create such and such plot-hole" - guess what? It's a show about supernatural abilities. The writers aren't going to cripple the premise they founded the show on (which everyone LOVED SO MUCH) just because people bitch about it. This is how progression works - if the series starts out with everyone unable to control their powers, given enough time, they will LEARN to control them. When that happens, yes, there are plot holes, but don't fault the writers for throwing some logic into an unrealistic premise.

That being said, yes, there is some stupid stuff that goes on, as well as a lack of foresight from the writers back in season one. All in all, it adds up to a shaky footing for any continuations of Heroes. When you have people with world-ruining abilities, what is there left to do in the world? You can do whatever you want, game over, why even watch the show?

I kept thinking that the cliffhanger would be the release of the virus. And I thought that the stuff about the company creating the virus was a red herring. I thought the virus would be created and released when Maya was killed, that when she died her anger/sadness/whatever would unleash this massive sickness. What they did was less cool, but still made for exciting television. I mean, I want to see what happens next. For most shows on TV, I wouldn't really care at all if I never saw another episode.

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Odds are that Nathan will come back, hehe

And fuck Peter. That fucker is a cardboard of an actor.

Ok, so apparently at the Jules Verne Festival for Heroes.. they showed footage from volume three...

Here is an account of everything that was shown.. some of you might not belive it, but, I have seen multiple accounts and they are all the same, this is the most detailed..

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