Clannad (Movie and series)
 

Clannad is another original work by KEY/Visual Art's, which came out in the wake of extremely successful titles, Kanon and AIR. The premise is similar (multiple female characters with associated stories), but there are two major differences:

1. No sex scene bullshit
2. No Less supernatural shennanigans

That has got me intrigued, since this means the game sold based on the strength of the story and characters alone. And now, following the anime adaptations of KEY's previous titles, TOEI is now producing a movie length version of Clannad, while Kyoto Animation is following up Lucky Star and Kanon 2006 with Clannad TV.

As usual, music will be from the game, designs will be similar to Kanon's, and most if not all of the game voice cast will return.

This post will balloon in length once I get back from vacation. Also, screencaps from the KyoAni preview!


OMG NEWSFLASH Clannad After Story, the follow-up to Clannad (and what many would argue is the better half) is currently in production. Same cast, same staff, HERE WE GO AGAIN

Kyoto Animation + Key has always been a good combination in the past, so I see no reason Clannad won't be a delicious offering (lol totally ignoring Toei's version).

Kind of interested that there are no supernatural hijinks going on, since I've been told that some people are really put off of Key works due to their reliance on such things in their stories. Perhaps Clannad will be the series to attract more mainstream audiences to Key's work. Perhaps it will lead to a Planetarian OVA (please). Who knows!

One thing is for sure, anyway: moe blobs.

KyoAni's Clannad resembles that of AIR's anime. I don't hate but I would like it more if the animation was a bit like the Kanon remake. Definately can't wait for this. The movie came out the 15th. Did it premiere in theatres or was it straight to dvd?

I have high hopes for the TV series, since KyoAni know how to adapt and animate well.

The movie, I have no hopes at all. Toei enjoys changing things through adaptation to suit their vision or marketting. In my opinion anyways.... I mean the Air movie was just dismal, and some of my favourite manga was butchered when it was animated by Toei.

Oh and don't forget Kanon 2002.

Still, can't wait for Clannad. From some of the spoilers I've read, its gonna have alot of heart wrenching moments.

Here's a nice wallpaper for you guys while we wait!

CLANNAD heh? It's airing in October 5th...not a long waiting.

Well, it IS worth waiting, since the storyline (from what I read), is far more intrigue, complex, and sadder from any previous works, since most of the characters have very dull past. Besides, the drawing is unexpectedly awesome. Kyoto Animation surely teams well witk KeY Visual Art.

However, the storyline is still a bit supernatural in somewhat ways. The visual novel states the story is to be supernatural; traveling into an illusionary world.

Yeah, the supernaturalness is more subdue and subtle, but its still there.

So many shows to catch this season...

I don't know if anybody is able to read this stuff, but the anime website has a list of the staff/cast: this thing can be clicked!

Also, there's a TV trailer that seems to include a remixed version of Mag Mell. I like the original better, but then I like Mag Mell better than pretty much anything else in the world. It'd be hard to improve it: click for (a) good time(s)!

Yes, that's right; there is a remixed version of Mag Mell. In fact, this version (real title: Mag Mell ~cuckool mix 2007~) is the opening theme of the TV series. I'm not really surprised by this; Key's previous animation has been taking soundtracks (almost) directly from the game/visual novel.

I think the original Mag Mell is better, but in fact, I don't really like Mag Mell that much; AIR'S Tori no Shi is better for me.

Less than a week before this series starts airing. Needless to say, if this is even half as good as Kanon, then it'll be another hit for KyoAni.

In the meantime enjoy the following:

The OP:

YouTube Video

The ED:

YouTube Video

The ending in particular caught my eye as the information I've read regarding this show makes it very suitable and in line with the themes that Clannad will focus on.

I downloaded the Prelude video, and it looks fantastic.

Now all I need is the full versions of the new 2007 remix of the opening song, and the new ending song as well.

Single will be out on 26th October. Hope someone here can upload it when its out.

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Both opening and ending animation were different but beautiful , the ending one made me feel a little sad and happy at the same time... Its like the picture book from Chobits.

First episode should air tonight I believe.

Anyone can recommend me which sub group to get the episodes from? The translations I found on the Prelude video from AnimeSuki seem only passable...

Also, Lia released an Insert song for the MOVIE version of Clannad called "Yakusoku" (Promise). Anyone can upload this?

I watched the raw and could barely stand the 4:3 cropped video, this series should be enjoyed in its full glory (and the widescreen version won't be out for another three weeks, damn it).

Tomoyo Kick blew me out of my chair. I find it funny, though, that the biggest moeblob on the show is a middle-aged married woman.

oh Kikuko Inoue u

Woah, Widescreen version not out for 3 weeks?!

What the hell? Is there a delay for BS-i's broadcast?

So has anyone got any opinions on which subgroup to go with? I'm thinking of going with TheWaffleHouse+Sprocket since they (that is, TWH) are translating the game as well and should have a pretty solid understanding of the story, which would hopefully mean quick and accurate translations. I don't know anything about Philantrophy-Sekai though...

I'm grabbing boths subs now.

Are there any other teams planning to do Clannad? a.f.k.? :tpg:

EDIT:

Nerghh....

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I'm watching episode 1 now (TWH/Sprocket version) and what Blah said is absolutely right. The cropped version is almost unwatchable, stuff gets cut off that is actually important (MOUTHS, EYES). It's a pretty terrible experience.

The show seems really great though. I think I'll actually hold out for the widescreen versions of these. And TWH/Sprocket is definitely better.

Just downloaded SS-Eclipse's version since they release promising episodes with quality. However both avi and mkv versions are full screen =/. Yeah, I'll wait for the widescreen as well. The opening is the best song I've heard since AIR's opening theme.

And I'm guessing there IS a 3 week delay for the widescreen episodes?

God, usually when a show appears on multi channels or networks, the delay isnt' that severe.

I way underestimated CLANNAD.

I thought "yet another popular show that usurps all the attention from the gems" but then I actually WATCHED episode one and there was so much win I was amazed. I was surprised by the lol content and I like the girl's parents already XD

You guys were right, watching it in Pan and Scan instead of widescreen is unbearable. You either feel cramped in the still shots, or you feel dizzy at the moving camera ones cause you know part of the image is missing.

Looks like most of us have to wait...

The first episode was great despite that.Obviously they have to reduced the material alot, but this is probably the longest game Key has ever made, even the character descriptions on Wiki were pretty damn long.

Just watched the second episode.

For some unknown reason this anime is hinting a very sad ending, i just can't ignore that fact that someone would die or something.

So melodramatic i just love it

It's Key. They couldn't make a completely happy ending even if you tried to beat it out of them. :(

Well from what I can tell from Wiki, there IS a happy ending route, but the player needs to work for it.

Comparisons with Widescreen and Fullscreen versions

Seems like BS-i's broadcast has sharpness and color problems.

Snapshots: CLANNAD Widescreen Comparison | Random Curiosity

Eh, I'll take the sharpness/contrast issues over cutting off mouths and eyes any day.

Still, this gives me more reason to get the DVDs when they come out. Although I'll miss having money. :(

http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/...9].avi.torrent

Widescreen episode one is out! Eclipse Productions.

Finally...

From what I heard, they reworked the video a bit to up the quality, since BS-i is notorious for broacasting shit quality for a long time.

I can see the difference in quality, but I really don't think it's that big a deal. Like, I really love the panoramic shots and everything so I think it's well worthwhile to get the widescreen versions, especailly since it's only a 3 week wait. I've waited longer for stuff!

Im downloading SS-Eclipse's version right now. A.F.K's episode quality looks good so far. Any screenshots?

Afk's screen res is about 704x396. So when I full screen it, it looks a little fuzzy. No big deal but I wonder if anyone plans to release an HD quality so I can throw that into my ps3.

The opening resembles Air's opening theme but Tori no Uta is much better than this one. Not that I'm saying clannad's sucks. I love it as well. And it looks like Fuko's going to be my fav character =].

A present for the club ;p.

[Kotoba]_CLANNAD_OP_ED_Single_-_Megumeru_-_eufonius,_Chata,_riya_-_(320K_MP3)!

Oh, few songs can ever top Tori no Uta. But Nagisa's theme comes close (it's been adapted into the ending theme for the anime, but you can search for the original song on Youtube "Chiisana Tenohira")

What the heck, I'll just embed it:

YouTube Video

It's in the same vein as "Aozora" rather than Tori no Uta, but if you're pining for some I've Sound, here's the theme song to Tomoyo After:

YouTube Video

Thanks chato, and just in time when my internet is back up properly too!

@bigblah : Know any place where I can get a good quality mp3 of those two tracks? Clannad's pretty decent but I left Tomoyo After on for a good 45 mins til I switched back to Tori no Uta. They're both great tracks.

@ Kairi Li : You're welcome. The best add in the single is the 10 min remix XD.


As for episode 1. At first I thought I was going to dislike Tomoya but I understood why he's like that at the end of the episode. The girls introduced here were interesting though. Especially the one who kicked those bikers' asses in 2 seconds ( love the chun-li kick!) in both the original and spectator view. Looks like I'll be watching this only in widescreen. Which also means I'd have to wait every 3 weeks for it =/. Worth the wait though!

EDIT : Almost forgot. Someone released one of their Fandub of the episode. Just the first 2 mins.

CLANNAD_ENGLISH_DUB_VOICE_OVER_DVD_PROMO!

Sounds ok but I'll leave good ol Crispin Freeman to do the job! If they license it in the future..

Love the widescreen version, it feels so less cramped now.

What is that Remix anyway? Was it a remix of a track from the game? I can't tell what track it is.

I don't see it in any of the 3 Clannad discs. I do see the name on the cover though. Just give it a close up ;p.

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/989/bb8cbe1cbv5.jpg

I guess it's just a 2k7 remix. A real good one.

In the event that people are watching the 4:3 version just to stay current:

Episode 4

Use spoiler tags. I'm not watching the 4:3 version, and neither are a few others. Post edited.

@ chato: That 7th track is a remix of the first track from the Clannad vocal image album Solarad, which itself is taken from "gensou" (illusions) from the Clannad soundtrack.



I'm going to upload the Clannad discography which consists of these albums:

KSLA-0009: Clannad Image Vocal Album - Solarad
KSLA-0010 (KSLA-0011): Clannad Arrange Album MABINOGI
KSLA-0012~4: Clannad Original Soundtrack
KSLA-0015: Clannad Image Vocal Album Solarad Append
KSLA-0016~7: Clannad Remix Album Memento
KSLA-0021: Clannad / Tomoyo After Piano Arrange Album Piano no Mori
KSLA-0036: Clannad TV Opening & Ending Theme "Mag Mell / Dango Daikazoku"

Movie related:

CLANNAD-0004: eufonius - Mag Mell ~ frequency => e Ver.
CLANNAD-0005: Lia - Yakusoku
FCCM-198: Clannad Movie Soundtrack

(Note: CLANNAD-0001 to 0003 are character DVDs, not audio CDs)


And for good measure:

KSLA-0020: Tomoyo After Original Soundtrack


There's also nine Clannad drama CDs but I doubt anyone else wants them.... :tpg:

Daaaamn. All I have is the OST which is 3 disc (300mb) . Did you happen to download that big torrent file that's around 1 gig? O.o. There were no seeders that time but thanks a bunch, blah.

I'll take the drama cds as well . I'm sure someone else in the future is going to ask for those cds and I have 2 wd 500 gb ex-hdd to spare anyway . *waits patiently for tomoyo after*

All my Clannad albums are in lossless :)

Damn you freakin rule for carrying high quality shit. In return, I'll upload the 2 creditless op+ed vids to add to your collection.

Clannad Creditless OP+ED!

This anime would definately look better in my ps3 if it wasn't an avi file >.>.

Oh hell yes! Thank you for uploading these up for us!

As for episode 4.

Darn that Dango Daikazoku song is just addictive.

On that note, I've been reading through the wiki, is it possible that this anime will go through the After story arc?

From the opening sequence before the title "Clannad" appears, its an obvious answer, YES! Those more mysterious part of the opening theme song are related only to the After Story arc, and not before.

Episode 5 full screen is out, and they started notably using the remixes found in the other albums.

So it would be nice if people can upload the albums soon. :)

Addictive in what way? Is it too cute; too catchy?

As for me.. it's horribly saddening - It nearly makes me cry every time I watch it.

If you check the lyrics, it's about dango cakes. So it is cute, the song itself is indeed cute.

But unfortunately, you're right, the song is very sad; especially when the refrain part.

See the lyrics for more information.

[AFK]Clannad Episode 2 Widescreen.avi

This show's getting better every second though I notice a few jokes and scenes that's similar to Kanon's but all is well anyway ;p. The funniest part in this episode has to be when Tomoyo told everyone kyou fujibayashi is a bi.




@bigblah : *listening to the imaginary 10 albums you uploaded for us* lol XD. All good though, no rush.

Speakin of songs, I found a torrent that has the movie single. Any difference?

This made me wonder if the whole... "Get out of the way!" thing is a recurring referential joke of some sort from Key. Anyone remember if Air had it?

I mean it was so similar that it felt like a reference to me. :D

I want that single, its suppose to me a movie only REMIX.

And the 10 albums won't hurt either, but no rush.

I also noticed that A.F.K did the extra work of taking the no credits OP and END animation from the Prelude DVD, and translating the Kyoto Ani credits themselves in English, along with the lyrics, and then edit them in each episode. It means theres far less things blocking our view than what would have been if we had both JP and ENG credits in the same screen. And it feels more localised.

The fact they did the extra work for something minute like that, along with their better translations, grammar, less intrusive font and subs, makes them one of the best group subs to me.

I gave the song my ears again. There is a somewhat difference to it then the TV version/full version. Here you go

(Clannad Movie Theme Song Single) (VBR)eufonius - Megumeru ~frequency e Ver.~


So that must be the two vids I uploaded a few posts back. No wonder I noticed some difference in quality at the beginning and end. They pulled it off great at least :cool:

Ok, episode 7 came out, and from what the experience Clannad gamers are saying on AnimeSuki forums, it looks like its impossible to do all their character arcs AND the after story under 24 episodes. It may be going into two Cours (seasons in Japan), and that there are only 8 DVDs announced, but more will come.

It would be nice to see KyotoAni try to do more than 24 episodes. Clannad is too long and big of a story to be fitted into 24 episodes...

And Blah, are you still gonna upload those soundtracks by any chance? Not trying to rush you or anything.... If you can't, think you can direct us to where we can download all of them?

Sorry, I didn't manage to get the soundtracks up before I left for Borneo (I'll be stuck here for another week or so.) Most of my stuff was obtained through Japanese p2p instead of torrents. I'll resume uploading as soon as I can.

Given that Tomoyo After is an entirely separate game, that makes perfect sense to me.

Besides, it leaves more room to do PLANETARIAN.

Uh, I was referring to the AFTER STORY part of Nagisa's arc. NOT Tomoyo After. Nagisa has two arcs. Story arc which takes place in High School, and After Story which happens after a year later.

You know, that's bordering on "spoilerific".

I suppose I should just stop reading this thread completely.

Heh..definately. You should edit the thread title to "Clannad TV Widescreen". We aren't going to be seeing that movie anytime soon anyway =/.

Time to split the thread to Kairi Li and Everybody Else on WS.

Edited the last post for spoilers. Sorry about that, but I wanted to clarify what everyone was discussing. Tomoyo After was not part of it.

As we wait for the albums, I have the Movie OST nipponsei released today. Uploaded through sendspace for those who don't use torrents.

Clannad Movie OST!

Thanks for the upload! Pity it would be a while before we can actually see the movie. Though from what I've heard it was a pretty bad adaptation.

Yeah and so are other compressed tv series to movie adaptions. I'll probably might like it since I don't care much about small details u.u.

Just downloaded episode 6. I'm really feeling this show. No magic,ghost bs.

Episode 6 Widescreen : Felt really bad for Fuko. At first I thought it was Fuko was already dead but that couldn't been right since all the other students can see her and not her sister. Maybe it's all in her head and she's probably bullshitting.

Episode 9: BAWWWWWWWW ;__;



:)

I've uploaded the first batch. The following files are on Index of /clannad (match the catalogue numbers to my previous post)

[EAC]FCCM-198.rar 341M
[EAC]KSLA-0009.rar 215M
[EAC]KSLA-0011.rar 240M
[EAC]KSLA-0015.rar 111M
[EAC]KSLA-0020.rar 437M
[EAC]KSLA-0021.rar 160M
[EAC]KSLA-0036.rar 232M

Huge thanks to Ketonom for the space!

Downloading them now, good looking out , blah.

Episode 10:



A point of note is that I still can't get over how beautifully animated the mechanical doll segments are. It seems like KyoAni is pulling out all the stops to come up with those scenes that I just wonder how many frames of animation are going into it. Of course, there's no revelation as to what purpose those scenes serve, but there's a lot of potential there, and even if it doesn't materialize, we've got a lot of stunning animation to feast our eyes upon.

A heads up to those who are watching Fullscreen version

The show will go on Hiatus after episode 12. Meaning Episode 12 will be the last episode you will see in 2007.

To sum it up, Episode 12, the last Clannad episode of this calendar year will be airing on December 21, 2007. The next episode, episode 13, will air on January 11, 2008. There will be approximately three weeks of break after episode 12 air and then Clannad resumes its course once again.

Thanks to AnimeSuki Forums.

IS there a convetor from FLAC to mp3 so I can actually bring it around with me?

And what is Ape?

Thanks Big Blah for the uploads!

But uh, think next time you can give a heads up to which format you're using? I have no idea have to play half of these or get them to my mp3 player, and google is no help.

I would usually use Core Media Player to play the files. Sound quality's amazing.

As for the anime. There are a few others that are on hold til january 10

Thanks, but seems like it doesn't play TTA files, help on those please?

Oh wait...

http://www.gamingforce.org/forums/be...ading-but.html

Also to those who are watching the Fullscreen version, or when others eventually get to Episode 11, please read this.

Episode 13:

Well, this thread is in need of some serious bumpage. As far as the events in the series have gone...



Everything else is still pretty super though.



All in all, still going on strong!

Regarding Fuko:

LARGE IMAGE IN THE TAG BELOW.



This scan from a newspaper/magazine from Japan confirms that Clannad season 1 will have 22 episodes, and an extra omake episode that will play the following week aftet episode 22, which will show what happens during

It pretty much confirms that the After Story, which is the 2nd part of the game, and also extremely long that it may be longer than Air and Kanon put together, will be the 2nd season. The opening theme song has confirmed there will be the After Story cause

My theory is that Haruhi S2 will air during Clannad's break, and once that's done, we will get Clannad ~ After Story.

It makes me sad that Tomoyo didn't get nearly as much time as the other girls did. She did get to beat up Sunohara a lot though, and that's what counts.

That's cause Kyou, and Tomoyo's arc are all

Lame. Also, doesn't Tomoyo have her own After Story? Haven't played the VN (nor do I plan to) so I don't know too much about their respective storylines outside of what I've looked up.

I am also partially sad that the main heroine is your typical weak moeblob with no outstanding personality traits. Also she is a cockroach. I see those antennae.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...imu/Nagisa.jpg

Look at that, right on top of her head. It's how she detects her prey. Outside of those two gripes though, I've very much enjoyed the rest of the series. Kotomi's VA is awesome, Sunohara is the funniest moron on the planet, and the random Fuko appearances never dissapoint. I was skeptical going in because I don't like "lulz key tragedy fests" but they managed to get it right somehow this time. Fuko's arc ending was way, way better executed than Ayu and Makoto's equally tragic arcs in Kanon.

I just hope they don't rush the ending. They are running short on remaining episodes.

SKIP THIS POST IF YOU ARE ON WIDESCREEN VERSION!! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!'

Well, the end of the School Arc is not really the end of the story. Its the After Story(2nd season) that truly matters, and the only reason why people dislike Nagisa so far its because most of her development, and Tomoya's is in the After Story, and so far in in the School arc she is downplayed. I like to think people should be open minded and watch the entire story before judging characters too quickily. Not to mention the latest episode shows that she can be pretty pushy and bossy to Tomoya, and probably the only person so far that can make him do anything. The School arc is fantastic, but the After Story is the 2nd half of the game. By the end of Season 1, you would have experience Part 1 of Clannad.

So, watch the whole thing before you judge, please? I mean, you don't go judging a character development from Lord of the Ring's after only seeing Fellowship, right? After Story is Part 2, not "Epilogue that lasts for 4 pages."

As for Nagisa's moeness, the fact is, whether is moe or not, there are plenty of shy Japanese/Asian girls out there. Alot of them. I met plenty in primary, middle and high school, and even more in my now adult years. The fact that the anime culture made it moe doens't mean its a cliche character trait and it means she's boring, since so many shy girls actually exist. If anything, her development from a shy to stronger person is an important development. To quote from Anime Suki Forums:

There's a good character discussion on Nagisa here, I suggest you give a read on page 5 and 6: Character discussion - Nagisa - Page 5 - AnimeSuki Forum

As much as I love to see more Tomoyo girls out there, fact is, most of them aren't, especially in Asia. Its a sad fact that I hope gets remedied one day. Hell I was shy as a bird myself, took me years to become this loud and obnoixious. I see Nagisa as a character that other girls can learn and benefit from. But because most people in the West see strong girls as awesome (Buffy, typical action chicks etc in movies), they tend to look down on the shyer "moe" characters. If they stay moe and shy and weak, then you have a point, but I have seen development in Nagisa, and there's the spoilers I read in After Story too.. There's more to come!

On the flip side, one can argue that the tough chick can be just as cliche and boring as the cute, shy, moe girl. So go fig. As long as each gets a good development, who cares if they start off as sterotypes? There are plenty of sterotypes in reality too.

It sucks that Kyou and Tomoyo got the shaft, but their stories are more about their relationship with Tomoya than it is about their families, though family does play a significant pary in both. But the romance is like the pillar, without it, thats all you have left in the Anime. Speaking of Tomoyo...

Tomoyo's After is a SEPERATE SEQUEL GAME, that was made after the success of Clannad and the higher ups told Key to do whatever they want, they opted to do more about Tomoyo, cause even in the game her arc is the least developed. Like Clannad's After Story however, it also has

It is a seperate story arc, game and entity, the only way they will adapt Tomoyo properly is if they announce to make Tomoyo After as a series or OVA or something, since being a seperate game, it means a whole new contract and copyright.

And naturally whether or not they do it depends on how well the Clannad anime receives. I mean, Kanon was made due to Air's success, Air made fans believed and wanted KyoAni to make non-butchered version of Kanon. If you want more Tomoyo, then buy some Clannad anime merchandise or something to get the message across.

Ahahaha, Air.

I see what you're saying, but you're basing your opinion upon the fact that they're people are trying to market her as "being similar to people in real life" which fails utterly and completely because when you begin comparing anime to the real world you've already failed.

Regardless of how close to realness she might be it doesn't change the fact that Nagisa's archetype is painfully boring and overdone. I've watched through 19 and I saw her interaction with Tomoya, which is nice for a change, but you take into effect how far into the show we are and the fact that this is more or less all she's done all show (up until now everyone else has been doing EVERYTHING for her), and she's still a terrible character. There has been TOO MUCH moeblob stuff recently, I'm hoping this trend dies off soon.

Ah but you are still basing it on the incomplete development she's getting. I say wait for the end of the actual story, that After Story that is, then whine about it. There is no doubt that moe has become an annoying trend, but immediatly disregarding a character just cause she shows traits of it, before her story is even finished, its rather unfair. After Story has a huge development for her and Tomoya, and no its not just about their relationship development either, its personal.

Is it too much to ask to wait till everything's done before making complaints about character developement? You only saw like 25% of her development. Believe me when I say After Story is LONG.

As for everyone doing everything for Nagisa, well, gotta remember that she never really had real friends because of her illness, and it takes a while for someone to climb out of their shell, by now she has gone more proactive because of what she has seen Tomoya done for the other girls. Nagisa had a slow and subtle development that people seem to not notice untill now. (Read the link I posted for more info.)

Not to mention this whole "her developement is just starting in episode 19" thing wouldn't happen if you were playing the VN, since you ignore the other girls in VN. When you attempt adapt all arcs before the main girl, this is the trade off, and even then Nagisa had subtle development that most don't notice, probably cause of their dislike of weaker characters.

And I thought Air was excellant because of the slow realisation that the story was ultimatly about the relationship of a mother and child, and the end was just heartbreaking. Misuzu may also show moe traits, but she also developed and was the last one to do so since they always leave the main girl the last. Its just how the shows have to be structured. If you wanna go the "main girl only" adaptation, you'll probably end up with messes like what Toei does with their movie versions.

Well, the movie version is out on DVD, and I've been watching a bit of the RAW video. My god, the animation, camera work and execution makes it so painful to watch. And from what spoilerish reviewers told me, the characters and plot is horribly butchered.

If you wanna know zilch about the movie till you have seen it, then ignore this post. Also, watching this movie will spoil the After Story AKA Season 2 of Clannad TV.

Also the frequency remix of the theme song that people who bought the movie tickets were able to get, I assumed it was gonna be used int he movie. It wasn't. They used the original mix from the opening of the game. Shame, the frequency mix was a good mix.

I watched the RAW here: Online Video: Clannad Movie (raw) | Veoh Video Network

Need VEOH player to watch the entire thing.

Here is a non spoiler review by Velocity7 who does the Wafflehouse/Spocket subs. He is also the head of the Clannad game translation project, so he knows how the original game went.

http://naomi.thewafflehouse.net/blog...-movie-review/

If you wanna know how the characters are butchered, here it is under the spoiler tag, as posted by Klashikar from the Anime Suki forums. I have edited out the major spoilers that people who are on the fullscreen, and probably Widescreen version can read without finding anything major out.



The full original review, do not click the spoiler tag there, read the one I edited instead above.

AnimeSuki Forum - View Single Post - CLANNAD the Movie

My thoughts on watching a bit of the RAW and not knowing what they're saying? I can only judge it on an animation and overall story POV. The animation and music makes me wonder if TOEI is stuck in the early 90's or late eighties of their animation. I hear music that reminds of fucking Sailor Moon Season 1 (Which they also butchered, the manga was way better.) Their animation is not as impressive as the modern anime we see nowadays, like FMA and Ghost in a shell, just to make some mainstream examples. And keep in mind this is on a FILM budget.

The art and animation is just weirdly proportioned compared to what KyoAni did, and the so call action scenes look bad, we have those stupid still artwork shots where the BG turns to Lines and a reddish color, and in the foreground is the character with a "GRAAAAAAAAGH!!" look on their faces and the camera shakes, to make it look like he's going to punch or push someone HARD. And keep in mind shots like that are effective only if the situation is funny, instead I see that shot being used on a very serious scene, a scene that shows how Tomoya's dad

Also I was a little annoyed and perhaps disgusted at the part where we see Sunohara urinating in Public, and we actually SEE THE GODDAMN PEE! Its distasteful, you can show what the hell he's doing without resorting to showing us the golden flow. Were they trying to make people choke on their popcorn? I will not spoil tag this cause I like to give people little heads up, especially if they're eating while they watch it.

The doubling or tripling of the animation was also annoying, makes the animation and movie look amateurish or something, or worse, their way of balancing their budget, which by the way considering this is a movie budget, its sad to see that KyoAni can do much better animation quality despite being on a TV budget. The constant changing shots were also annoying at times.

And the Lens Flare, oh god I thought they were annoying in the Air Movie, but it seemed like they didn't take the hint when people complained. The background art was probably the movies only saving grace, and I can't even see them properly.

Back to the more actiony scenes, whenever Sunohara gets beaten up, the scenes just turn into...some grotesque fight scene where Sunohara's face turns into a monkey, his body starts becoming like a rubberband and its so goddamn exaggerated. And he does things like sticking his fingers in someone's nose, and weird stuff that's doesn't look much like fighting. And worst part? You never see him get his ass kicked by Tomoyo. In this film, you get Sunohara acting like a monkey, literally, and he doesn't get his ass kicked by the girl who should have.

This is probably as much as I can say before I go to the spoiler heavy stuff... so I'll just leave it at that, the non spoiler review pretty much says it all.

With episode 22's release, we can say it's ended as in "the first season has ended." Any follow-ups at this point are just that: follow-ups. Regardless as to how you feel about Nagisa, the manner in which they orchestrated the ending was utterly, mindblowingly brilliant. The first half of the episode sets the stage for the second half as all the effort they put in falls down to just a minute of footage, but it's that minute of footage that made the ending so good.



Very solid show from beginning to end. It's hard to think up series that have managed to wrap up their endings better than Clannad. No cheesy endings, no feelings that everything was contrived; I loved every minute of the last episode.

Oh, and the preview hints at some man-on-man loving! At least, if you take those quotes out of context.

Well in the game, there IS a Sunohara ending... More of a joke/bad ending though. I feel the preview hints they will animated that ending as a joke. I personally read the ending thought it was goddamn hilarious, so I hope I can see it animated as a joke.

Also, episode 24 is a DVD only release. So we get one more next week, and another at a later day. In June I think...

Regardless of what you think about the Nagisa arc, Akio Furukawa conveyed in one minute what took the Kotomi arc 5 episodes. That was exactly what I watched this show for.

Now I will resume avoiding the TOEI movie.

All throughout the last episode I was thinking how the crisis could possibly be resolved, with all that tension buildup in the first half. I was secretly hoping it'd a little cheesier with a higher display of enthusiasm from everyone, but it wrapped it up well. The standard final moment was the obvious one everyone was waiting for, but still technically, annoyingly enough, a -teaser- since there was no actual verbal confirmation :x

The ending was good, but WHERE IS THE LOVING EMBRACE and/or PASSIONATE KISS?! Clannad director: "How about, NOWHERE, MWEAHAHAHNYEHYEHEGACK *cough cough*"

It'd be great to actually see them throw themselves at eachother because they can't hold it any longer, but no, they left us only with a "I luv you forevaaa" and then NOTHING. I had expected an explosion of feelings, and we kind of got one but dang they left out the most important thing. At least that's what I think.

Oh hey, I don't think KyoAni are quite done with Clannad yet:

http://www.bigblah.net/upload/20080327a.jpg

Clannad After Story currently in production, staff and cast unchanged.

Moonphase entry: 2008-03-27 - MOON PHASE »¨µ.

Ha! I knew they had to make it. The opening and various dialogue in the last few episodes foreshadowed it.

But its good to see actual confirmation instead of letting us linger and wait for 2 years... *coughharuhi2cough*

Here's the 15 sec promo for After Story that plays at the end of episode 23, which I'm sure will subbed in the nexy few hours.

YouTube Video

I just about recgonise all the scenes from the spoilers I've read on the game.

Sproket released their subbed promo. Looks good though. I am wondering who Tomoya is beating in that clip XD. Good thing I'm takin my time with this. 3 more episodes to go (watching the WS version)!

Oh so this means we'll be getting a somewhat meatier ending, or does it? That's great, but anyhow, I can't understand why do they have to let us wait for this stuff :annoyed:

Because the After Story is not the Harry Potter 5 page Epilogue as the name seems to suggest.

It's 2/3 of the game.

It will take at least 1 cour to fully adapt it properly, and therefore they need a break to actually ANIMATE it. When you combine all the other girls' arcs together (Kyou, Tomoyo and others), its only 1/3 of the game. The majority of the game is the After Story and focuses on Tomoya and Nagisa.

Its like Seasonal breaks in prime time shows like Lost or 24.

Anyway, comments on the first Omake episode.

Overall, a funny and sweet omake episode. Can't wait for episode 24 on the DVD.

Woah. Ok, so then I guess it makes sense why we'd have to wait for it. But man, that gets me real interested what it will be about. I'll probably get to play the actual game translated before it comes out though I guess.

The Baka Tsuki translation patch is in no way officially completed yet. I don't think they are even finished the translation process, and after that's done, they have to do the revision process (as in check if the translation is truly accurate with what was being said), and then test for bugs.

Unless the translation phase IS finished and you got the unofficial patch with no proper word wrap, then yeah, go ahead and play it... But I doubt it will come before the 2nd season though. After Story is so frigging long after all...

As for what happens in the 2nd season, the relationship between Tomoya and Nagisa is developed and explored. Not to mention there are other character arcs they have not touched upon. Mei, Yukine(Girl in 2nd libary), Akio, Sanae, Yuuske (Kouko's husband), Misae the dorm mother.... There's alot of arcs they can easily fit into the 2nd season.

This really ended up being a real smooth storyline without no bullshit moments. So now that I'm heading towards the last episode (22? according to the WS versions), What's going to happen with the other chicks ? Does Sunohara get into a relationship with one of them or what? Also, is there more to this Fuko thing ? Her running around and getting caught into funny moments are good , but uhh.. ya know =/.

Wait for the After Story, 2nd season, which is 2/3 of the game, for the answers for your questions. Its been officially announced to be in production.

The Fuko thing happens if you gain Fuko Master in the game, then play Tomoyo's arc. Since Tomoya got that title, Fuko has to appear randomly to remain faithful to the game. Theory is that now that she has helped her sis, she is now running around having fun as a spirit untill she one day can get out of her coma.

In the game, the other chicks don't appear much, but the anime may find some way to keep the around. So just wait for the After Story ok? It's been officially announced.

Update on the exclusive episode coming soon to the last DVD of season 1, coming in July.

Episode "24" is not only focused on Tomoyo, its also set in her arc. That's right, the episode is in an alternate universe where Tomoya is going out with Tomoyo instead of Nagisa. This is probably due to the fact that out of all the girls, Tomoyo had the least screentime in the actual show.

This episode is focused on the later part of her arc from the game, sets after the school presidential votes were in.

There was a screening of episode 24 at KFC hall in Japan, and a forum member from Anime Suki has a report on it. There are spoiler tags in places where he talks about the episode itself, the rest is about which crew and cast showed up and the event itself.

AnimeSuki Forum - View Single Post - Clannad TV (general discussion)

This image was used to promote Season 2 as well, no mention of broadcast date, just the crew's view on the project during the Q and A.

Pretty damn late on this, but episode 24, AKA Tomoyo Alternate Universe episode, its up.

Clannad TV

When you finish watching it, you can see why Tomoyo's arc has to be mutually exclusive from Nagisa.

They did a pretty good job cramming her arc in one episode, all the stuff prior to her becoming Student Council president is mentioned but not shown. Alot had to be cut out, but it got the meat of the events in. Also kudoes to the amazing facial expressions in various scenes. They really went out for the emotional impact. The ending was beautiful and exactly like the original.

On a side note, the game translation has finished its translation phase and its now in the editing phase. Those with the game installed already can find unofficial patches lurking around the net, but the translation team frowns upon them... Still, that was how I saw Tomoyo's ending on youtube.

New After Story Teaser confirms air date to be Oct. 3 on TBS from 01:59 AM !

YouTube Video

News from Animefest

New OP ED by Lia.
OP 時を刻む唄
ED TORCH

Airdate: 2/10/08, 1:59AM,
2 Cour(~24ep)
OP: Toki wo Kizamu Uta
ED: Torch

OP is an arrange of a game BGM, has the feel of Tori no Uta.
ED also feels like AIR's in that it feels optimistic

Ep1: The Bakers Furukawa
Ep2: Sunohara's Proposal(as in the marriage one)

Detailed AnimeFest report

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=320

Kyoto Animation also announces Tonari no 801-chan, a new anime they will be making. What the HELL is going on with Haruhi 2 then?

Surprised that Kairi Li hasn't already made a ton of posts about the subject, but After Story episode 1 has been aired and subbed by a couple groups.

Episode 1:
AQS-Sprocket-TWH (XviD)
SS-Eclipse (XviD)
SS-Eclipse (h264)

I've downloaded the episode from SS-Eclipse, but I haven't decided if I'm going to watch it yet. Seems that Clannad After Story will have the same airing pattern as Clannad did: episodes will air in 4:3 first, then air again in widescreen weeks later. Last season I waited a couple of weeks to watch the entire thing in widescreen, so I may just do the same thing here. A hassle, but I'd rather not watch something cropped if I can help it.

That's cause I got sick of double posting over and over again. :P

And Episode 2 pan and scan ver. is out as well.

Clannad ~After Story~

I'm gonna stream the full screen versions, then download the widescreen versions later. It's annoying that its gonna be a 3 week gap though.

Holy shit this is the most adorable thing ever. Ever.

Fuck you KyoAni for making me like this show again. Of course I assume they're getting all the fun stuff out of the way now so they can go back into depressing mode like they did the first time around.

Widescreen version has begun to air, episode 1 is subbed.

Clannad ~After Story~

So... I just finished watching the two series. Great stuff.

Yeah.