PlayStation 3 Fan Noise. Annoyingly loud, ain't it?
 

The last thread split its pants while bending over to pick up a mint. PlayStation 3 is the sequel to the smash hit movie PlayStation 2: World Domination (unrated special edition!) In this thread we can have a gay old time talking about PlayStation 3. Firmware updates, exciting announcements, rumours of exciting announcements, online goodness, questions, answers, things! This thread is not for GameFAQ character battles (VOTE VOTE VOTE) between the PlayStation 3 and the other systems, because that's very retarded. Again, if you wish to discuss a PS3 game in great detail with the other FRIENDS OF GAMINGFORCE™, feel free to make a thread! We're in low supply of PS3 game threads! Having everything crammed up in here results in tinea, and nobody likes that!

Have a fun, enjoy!

You guys should have just slapped them on the hand or banned one from the thread.

Anyway, I bought Heavenly Sword and I am loving it. I definitely feel a difference between the final build and the demo. I had an audience as well, that described watching the game as incredibly easy and entertaining because it was like watching a movie. People would walk away and come back and ask what happened. It was a pretty good experience. While I kind of do understand people complaining about the shortness of the game, as I only played for a few hours and am about 50% done now, it's still a great game. And if people buy it, we get downloadable content.

I kind of want to buy Lair but I don't know. My next PS3 game is between that and Ninja Gaiden Sigma, unless if I don't buy any before Folklore's release, which is going to be the next killer action/adventure/RPG title most def.

I'm still waiting on that sf2 hd remix game along with Fifa 08. The demo came out last night and it isn't so bad. I want a Winning Eleven game for ps3 though >=/.

I played the demo of Puzzle Fighter and it was pretty offputting. One of the big draws of Capcom 2D games has always been their wonderful design and sprite work. What is the point of even bothering to make an HD version if you don't bother properly updating the sprites themselves. Now everything else is sharp HD resolution, while the sprites are blurry upscaled crap :(

The game isn't really worth purchasing. The demo itself is enough to make you interested but not all the way. SF2HD looks like it'll have great backgrounds though, did you check out Balrog's stage?

OMG the Fifa 08 demo is available? I have to get that shit right now!

I beat Heavenly Sword after a 3hour sit followed by 6 hours of sleep and then a 5hour sit which finished Heavenly Sword. The final boss was one of the best Boss Battles I've ever had. Man was that guy a bastard... but what a good fight he put up.

Also I can't say I've cared about the characters of a game since Iplayed Final Fantasy 8 so job well done goes to Andy Serkis and the guys at Ninja Theory. Here's to hoping for a sequel.

You only get to play a first half and have the team of Barcelona, RM and Inter. It is fun though after 3 hours of demo play XD. I'll be sure to get this game when it comes out.

I've been looking for Heavenly Sword but no luck. :( I'm still learning and playing Resistance online from time to time too.

Blacksite Area 51 has my interest piqued though, as that game looks pretty nifty. Any announcements on when a demo is going to be available to play online?

If its selling out, it must be doing well. I can't wait to see the numbers. The sequel and the DLC seem to be dependent on sales, but god would it be awesome if we got some.

I can't play Resistance if I know that Warhawk is there. I'm really not an FPS guy so even if I practice I won't get far skillwise anyway.

Same here. I'm always up for some WarHawk, but I'm afraid that Unreal Tournament (series) is the only FPS I ever bother playing online.

Anyone know what the latest firmware did? It's version 1.93.

Firmware Update 1.93

Also, the FIFA 08 demo is pretty shit. It looks horrible. Even worse than FIFA 06.

Ratchet and Clank Future is going to be such an epic game. Go pre-order it cuz you get a demo to play.

That's only if you pre-order at a GameStop though am I correct. You don't get the demo if you pre-order at EB.

I believe both places have them. They just came in this week.

Well then, when I go to switch my pre-order of Rock Band from 360 to PS3 (due to the wireless controller thing) and pick up GGXX: Accent Core I may very well have to place a pre-order on R&C: ToD aswell. ;)

Finally, I'm gonna buy my Ps3 tomorrow. But I need some advice. I can get the 60gb model and the 80gb one (with motorstorm).

What's the difference between the two? I mean, besides the obvious, does the new processor makes any difference in performance than the emotion processor?

I'm worried that some games will run smoothly with the new processor than the emotion one.

I don't care about reto-compatibility since I already have a PSX and Ps2.

the 60gb version has the EE chip but not the 80gb. and beside the HDD that's the only difference. it's up to you if you prefer hardware emulation or software...

and if you don't care about backward compatibility then go with your budget. I'm not sure how much more the 80gb version is over the 60gb.

When you don't care about backwards compatibility, why would you worry about any differences in performance between the Emotion Engine and software emulation? In case you were wondering, it doesn't have an effect on PS3 games whatsoever.

Well he said something like, "does the new processor make a difference..." so I think that he thinks that the 80Gb PS3 has a different CPU then the 60Gb one. I haven't checked the stats in a while so I don't know if that's true, however if it were differenct and if the original CPU was a 90nm chip then they would have only made the new one a 60nm chip which only decreases heat and power consumption which has no effect on the games.

Besides that there's no difference between the two models PS3 game wise. Inhert and Rock are right about the BC stuff.

Thanks for the advice. When I said "worried about games running smooth" i meant Ps3 games. I have no idea of the Ps3 hardware and I kinda got the idea that the new model would improve the game's performance.

But that's good to know. I'll go with the 60gb model then since I don't care about Motorstorm and I don't think paying an adittional $100 just for the hard drive is a good idea.

Rumble in SIXAXIS confirmedARGH. Now I have to wait a couple of months before I buy some additional controllers! Oh well, we all saw it commin'. All I'm really curious about is if they did anything with the "new rumble technology."

Is this going to be called the Dual Shock 3 or the SIXAXIS 2?

Now what they'll need to do is do a bunch of patches for all PS3 games without rumble or at the very least enable this new controller to do rumble for PS2 and PSX games.

what about Shockaxis :tpg: no seriously, that's exactly why I waited before buying a new controller.

From what I've heard from the leaked reports it's just called the DualShock 3.

@AcerBandit
The PS3 already has rumble enabled for all PS2 games if you're using a PS2 controller via USB. So when the DualShock 3 comes out, all they'll need is one minor update to send that same rumble datastream to the new PS3 controller, no biggie. We'll probably even get the patch a good while before the new controller even hits the market.

UPDATE
Tgs07: PS3 Rumble Controller Confirmed - Kotaku

This means that it will probably hit the market before the end of the year since Burnout is due late January '08.

Ahh, I knew I should have waited before buying the extra controller. Any announcements how much more the new controller is gonna cost? I'm hoping it's not more than 20 bucks.

At least the controllers will be worth 50 bucks now.

That's if they're going to swap the SIXAXIS with the DualShock 3. Otherwise the DS3 may just be an add-in whic would therefore be an increased price over the standard controller. (like in the PS1 days)

UPDATE
The new Ratchet game is going to have DualShock 3 support. But of course the controller doesn't come out here till Spring '08 so most will have played, beaten and moved on by then. For thoes who won't be getting a PS3 till early next year however, good for you ;)

Ps3 Home news and it aint a good one

Niiice... So it's better that you get everything in Spring 08, Slayer. Not only will you have the game and system but you'll also have the home >=].

Does anyone who isn't a total dork even care about Home?

I don't really. When I read this in a site, you got people jumping up and down like little girls cause of this. I don't even know what this home is nor do I care. Thought I let ones around here know about it since it's ps3 related ;p.

Home is like Sims online minus having to look for the "health" of your avatar. You can customize your room with all sort of furniture. If you put a TV in this room you can than stream video on it from your HDD and your friends that you invite in your room can watch it, same thing for radio and frame you put on wall. After that you can mett people in the Home plaza where you can just chat like most 3D chat do now (like second life). There's an arcade too where you can play pool, bowling and various little arcade games. Oh I almost forgot that there's a theater where you can go watch some trailers (about movie, games etc...)

All that is in the beta for now. The whole version is suppose to include a room where you can show the trophies you have obtain. Think about those trophies like the xbox achievements. apparently that room will have big screen that will show some of your replay from various game.

I don't remember if there's more to it, but I think there will probably a mall where you'll be able to buy more furnitures for your room, or buying bigger room or something....

I'm mainly interested in Home for the achievements/trophies thing and to customize my room (that,s my favorite part in the game Sims XD)

oh I almost forgot, that you'll be able to invite people to play game directly from within Home and if both accept, the game will launch automatically if the games is install on your HDD or will prompt a message to insert the proper cd in the ps3.

oh and all that is free, well almost. All that I said will be free, but you'll be able to buy some more furnitures or exclusives furniture in the PSN store. I suppose they will probably come in little packages at a little price but still you can enjoy Home with the basic furnitures.

Interesting. A lot of games that were already released will be getting rumble support, I assume via system firmware updates:I'm glad they're going to throw support in for some of the older games. It looks from the article that the only games without rumble support are going to be flOw and Lair?

Anyone really happy about how the weekly update in the store turn out? it's been a month that we get a lot of stuff and demo ^^

I just tried the stuntman demo and as much as I like the game, god it's frustrating XD but not as much as the one on ps2 >.>

oh and that full trailer of DMC4 was sweet!

and really good thing about the rumble. I'm happy that it look simple to add rumble feature on already release game ^^

as for Lair I can understand a little why they are not including it, maybe because the whole game control with the sixaxis so they don't want the rumble to distract us?

Is the dual shock 3 going to use some kind of special batteries? I can imagine recharging that damn thing every 2 hours.

BTW, I bought my Ps3 with Heavenly Sword yesterday (not that anyone cares anyways). It will be arriving in 4 weeks though :(
I just hope that the people from customs don't replace it with bricks or something. I'm totally terrified about the shipping.

Virtua Fighter 5 doesn't have rumble either.

As much content we've been getting a lot of it is old news or minor things. It would have been nice to get some TGS stuff. Whether it be MGS4, White Knight, anything. A demo would have been better too. Like the one DMC4 demo has been going from convention to convention for over a year now, why no PSN release of it eh? Ah well, maybe when TGS really starts tomorrow, we'll get some up to date content for the next update.

Home is going to be total shit, probably the biggest waste of time ever, from what I've heard and seen so far. It is about chatting with 13 yo 1337 ha][0rz ("Hi. A/S/L????") and about customizing your home, but needless to say, as soon as you want anything better than a wooden chair or an IKEA table, you gonna need to pay for it. If you're retarded retired, you'd probably have enough time for something like that, but I'm not sure whether I even want to get into it.

I agree with SlayerX, it would have been nice to have some actual TGS content. Very disappointing that the MGS4 TGS trailer didn't make it in the update, wasn't it supposed to hit the PSN ? Oh and that DMC4 trailer is the same one from GC, it's not even the one they showed at TGS.

The Game Show is not over yet, I guess they will add more stuff later or maybe even after the Game Show has finished. Did you check the Japanese Store? Maybe they added some additional stuff there.

Also, please no more MGS4 videos. It's always the same shit anyway.

Hmm I dont know if this has been answered yet, but, will the new controller lose its tilt function because of its rumble function? Or did they just take out the rumble feature because of their fit with Immersion at that time?

it suppose to have both technology, so yes you'll still be able to use the sixaxis + having the rumble ^^

Yeah, the controller is now called Dual Shock 3 SIXAXIS, so it'll have both features.

It was also confirmed the rumble will be no different from Dual Shock 2.

So what those sites are saying about "next-gen rumble" and it being suddenly better than 360's, I have no idea.
Perhaps talking out of their asses with hyperbole.

Maybe it having both the rumble and tilt feature makes it the "next-gen rumble" lol

All sites have to fuel the console war one way or another by aggressively wording everything it seems. But yeah, it's no next-gen rumble and it does have both technologies. It's going to be nice to have some weight in my hands again.

P.S.
One cool thing about the DualShock 3 however is the ability to turn the rumble on and off on the controller itself instead of having to navigate through menues and stuff. Cause while I like rumble in my action games, I hate it in my RPGs and fighting games, so the easier the better ;)

Wait... rumble features can be different? People actually notice this shit? This is getting pretty ridiculous.

Can we please go back to having two motors spin around each other so that people can stop bitching about mundane shit?

PS3s is better! 360s is better! Jesus Christ shut the hell up.

I mean, its great PS3 gets rumble back but like Qwarky said, it's just people spewing bullshit from their mouths.

Nobody was really talking about that though. Qwarky and I were just commenting on how the press was making it out to some innovation in the field to 1up MS or something, which it turned out to be nothing like. Are you talking about the same thing?

No I think I'm just complaining because of all the bullshit I've been reading around the internet about it.

Lol, I'm with you on that one man. They blew the whole thing WAY out of proportion. The only difference that I've heard about with the DualShock 3 is that it has seperate motor control insteadof it being a unified control. Other then that, it's DualShock 2.

Game journalism is worthless. So is the rumble the same or not. Obviously it can't be, since it uses seperate motors.

I'd just call it the Axis Shock.

I think that was supposed to be sarcasim because the original DualShock also used seperate motors if you look at one of thoes see through ones. It's just now games instead of using the left for strong vibrations and the right for light, the new one just simply controls the RPMs per each individual motor, instead of simple on/off like in the DS2.

But yeah, when it comes to anything other then quotes, journalism is useless.

Did anyone check out the trailers for Monogotari and Little Big Planet? I checked them out earlier and they look pretty sick. No need to look around since I uploaded them for you :).

Little Big Planet+Shirokishi Monogotari TGS 2K7

Apparently the PSN update is up. So what's new on the network? I know the Jerhico Demo is up, reported by Joystiq. But what else is new? I'm at work right now so I can't find out for myself.

Adding to that my friend is

Add-ons - Motostorm and Ninja Gaiden
Demo - Cliver Barker's Jericho and NBA2K8
Video - EOJ Overview
Trailer - We Own the Night, Guitar Hero 3, Iron Man Teaser



I will be checking out Jericho and NBA2K8...Guitar Hero 3 looks awesome i guess.Still, no word on SF2HDREMIX. what a load of bull. Same goes for KOF12. I heard some shit about that game.

KoF XII was just announced at TGS and SNK pratically never has promo stuff for their games until they've gone gold usually. I was actually surprised that Metal Slug 7 was even at TGS.

But no MGS content eh? That sucks.

What happened to thoes updates of sprites and other artwork we'd get from time to time on SF2TurboRemix? Last thing I saw was Balrog's stage.

blah. SNK knows very damn well that we didn't want to see a rehashed KOF98. To see a lousy ass poster is what makes me irritated. We're already at the end of september. Capcom is another ball-busting company that don't know when they want to release a game to the states. We wont see SFHD2 for a while >.>..


As for the demos..I'll be sure to get NBA2K8. Looks fun but why does the b-ball demos have to be cavs and spurs... =/. The Jericho demo was kind of interesting. I went through my first play on it and it looks like an ok game.

Holy Shit! (Unreal Announcer)

Speak of the devil, SF2TurboRemix UPDATE!

- Post details: Flying Dictators and their Clones (New Art Inside!!!!)

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Well after some weeks of speculation and rumours SCEE just announced the 40GB PS3 and pricedrop starting at 299GBP and 349GBP for the 60GB that'll come into effect in the UK and Europe October 10th. The downside is that the 40GB unit doesn't have backwards compatibility with PS2 titles as well as only 2 USB ports instead of 4 and no multi-memory card slot:
Sony Computer Entertainment Europe - Virtual Press Office
I think the US is supposed to be getting the same kind of deal with the 40GB unit and a $100 pricedrop at the end of the month with the rumoured 3 starter packs including the "Movie" pack to tie in Spider-Man 3's release on Blu-Ray.

I suppose this just means I'll need to get a 60gig unit as fast as possible.

Can someone explain the logic of dropping the BC ability when it's done by software nowadays anyway?

Also does anyone know what thoes prices would be in USD or CAD?

The prices are hard to convert, since they aren't simple conversions. There's always a premium when buying it elsewhere, but being Canadian I'm sure you know that.

Hopefully the 40 is 400 or 450 bucks or something. Instant (re)sold in that case, but I doubt it. 500, maybe? I dunno. I won't bother guessing, as we'll hear something shortly, I'm sure.

Seconding the "arg why remove software BC now too", though. That just flat out doesn't make sense. Buying a second hand 20 confirmed?

Sony had to screw up somewhere to keep their failure points up I suppose.

It really isn't that hard. Put in 80 gigs, 100% BC, wifi, media ports, 2 Duel Shock 3 controllers, some retarded Blu-ray movie throwaway, composite cables, component cables, an hdmi cable, the usual crap plus the system, and sell it for $400-$500. People will be willing to buy that. If that was out right now even I'd buy that if not just for keeping around for the eventual Team Ico game.

so they are basically doing a core package like the 360 with the 40gb, which mean totally useless >.>(well maybe not as much)

Not really. To be as useless as the core, it would have to be without a hard drive and lack bluetooth.

This one isn't entirely useless.

@Acer
They do have that for $550CAD. What's your point. (Well no Dual Shock 3 obviously, like it matters)

As for the system. All the press have been saying that Sony should have made a system for gaming and not multimedia. Well here's the system, so the had better STFU now. Or else...

How does taking out backwards compatibility factor into making it a better gaming machine? They still need Blu-ray for the games so disabling it from playing Blu-ray movies wouldn't save them much money at all. I heard they cut 2 USB ports. Holy fuck I didn't know USB cost that much. You can still access USB flash storage for multimedia purposes that way I suppose which is fine by me considering all flash cards besides SD are pretty worthless unless you're forced to use Sony's for the PSP. Cutting out wifi would just make it inconvenient and seriously even the DS has wifi (looking at you too 360 what is up with that?). 40 gb it's fine. Hell even 20 gb is fine as long as it has a harddrive. I don't know about you but I want to get my money's worth and a complete system. I'm not going to rebuy controllers just because they lack rumble so I'm just not going to buy the system until it's finally complete. By then it'll have those good 2008 games I hear so much about.

"Gotta take away that backwards compatibility now that we have over 65 PS3 titles available! That's almost as many as the THOUSANDS of titles available on PS2 right? So who would even want backwards compatibility anymore?"

I don't know ask Microsoft. They killed BC when the console only had 20 games, so they should know the logic.

@Acer
Things arn't always as easy as people make them out to be. Sometimes by replacing 1 item it changes a feature. For example I'm sure that they didn't eliminate WiFi and 2 USB ports to make it cheaper.

I'm sure what they did was go down to a simpler propriatary Motherboard that is $100 less and simply has 2 USB ports and no built on WiFi. Also the PS3's WiFi is shit anyway, you're better off without it.

Um, the 60 GB version already costs 500 dollars, why would the 40 GB one with removed backward compatiblity and USB ports cost the same amount. Of course it will be 400$.

I personally don't care about backward compatiblity much, but they shouldn't have removed it. 400$ PS3 in North America would've been great news, but this gives people something to complain about again.

So if I go home, turn on my Elite, put Knights of the Old Republic in, it will not allow me to play it? Uh guy, there is a difference between no longer putting out BC updates {or rarely doing so}, and lacking the ability altogether.

What in the hell is sony thinking? Are they just on drugs or something or are they intentionally TRYING to lose customers

Basically. In an effort to make their console more attractive, they axe one of the few things that got people to at least consider the machine. This decision just seems to be the latest in a long line of choices where they on the right track, but just sabotage things.

So.. what the hell was the damn point of all that upscaling they added not too long ago if they just go and remove backwards compatibility?

Sounds like a nice waste of time, money, and energy.

This is probably the only time I am glad I bought a console at launch and can just ignore all this ridiculous bullshit going on in the background. Who would have figured they would have got it best the first time around and then continuously fucked it up as they tried to "make it better"?

Well, it seems like sony is walking backwards in trying to make their console more attractive.

The first thing they should axe is the price. I mean seriously. PS3 has no good games that justify buying the console. At least with the PS2 MGS2 was set to come out what...3 months after launch i think?

Um, they are reducing the price. Or do you mean they should drop it to 99$ and cover the losses by selling pixie dust?

It was released more than 18 months after the launch of PS2 in Japan.

Ah, my bad aardark...seems like it went by quicker than it seemed.

But I think the price drop was for Europe only because didn't Sony drop the 60 gig model to 500, discontinue it, then sell the 80 gig for 600 still?

Anybody who runs PS2/1 games on their PS3 is an idiot to begin with. Every single game looks like ass thanks to forced deinterlacing, and the upscaling is terrible (the scaler of my JVC is superior). Practically everyone on Earth has a PSTwo anyway, so I don't see what the problem is.

The only benefit is potentially cleaner audio, since the PS3 has a more stable chassis, and an optical clock that wasn't manufactured by Radio Shack.

You forgot the benefits of essentially unlimited memory card space and official wireless controllers.

That and at least on my HDTV, PS2 games look a crap load better on the PS3 than they do on my PS2. Sure, I could keep my SDTV hooked up JUST FOR THE PS2, but that's unnecessary space taken up and is also highly inconvenient.

You still have to differentiate between fullHD and HDready. While I do believe that upscaling helps a fucking lot when you're lucky enough to own a fullHD TV, I don't think that I was like "wow" when I played my PS2 games with my PS3 on a HDready TV.

Thanks for that, but I don't exactly want my room to look like a nerdplace.

Full HD is just BS marketing talk that Sony made up.

If you want to get technical, Full HD, which is 1080p, isn't even "Full" HD, which in reality is over 4000p.

I remember when Sony hooked up a bunch of HD sets together and shot some sort of super HD video from a camera that was rigged to the top of a car and displayed them on those sets it gave everyone slight motion sickness because it looked so real except huge kinda like the first time you went to an IMAX theatre and looked down while some asshole played footage from some dude in a helicopter from a thousand feet up on it and you were all dude I hate heights, fuck, walking down these stairs isn't helping AT ALL but pretty much everyone agreed that it was pretty cool and rad anyway. =)

Right now the way how I see it, the PS3 is a good piece of technology. However, the company, Sony, needs to get it's act together in my opinion. Basically put, I think their marketing section sucks. :gonk:

So Sony is Extorting us Europeans with buy it now or you won't get one because we shit all over Europe.Of course this paves the way for the 80gb model but that will probably be priced at £400/around $800 with no god damn games knowing Sony. They are forcing my arm to get the reduced price PS3 now because they aren't selling any in the UK.

I was hoping to buy one in late January but the 40gb will probably be the only model avaliable eventually with no backwards compatibility and a dinky hardrive? So no buy!

Seriously WTF is wrong with them.

60GB PS3 to be discontinued in UK - News at GameSpot

I really wouldn't be all that surprised if by January of next year Sony announces the return of PS2 BC in the 40GB models. The only reason the 40GB models don't feature BC is because the PS2 Graphic Synthesizer processor was removed and they still haven't finished the emulation code for the chip. Sounds like they are rushing to get a cheaper model out to the public for Christmas time and targeting PS2 owners with this model.

It's interesting to note that the 40GB models supposedly can still play PS1 games since the PS1 hardware is still being used as the I/O processor for the PS3.

I'm honestly considering buying the 40GB version. I don't care about BC, and I can always buy a new HDD if that's what I want.

(I get the feeling that this post just shows I haven't "gotten it" at all:( )

Wouldn't surprise me at all if eventually a cheaper PS3 showed up eventually with BC in it. They've already paid quite a bit of attention to that feature to just kill it without raising eyebrows.

Still a pretty dumb idea, if only because it makes your competitors look better.

What, seriously? I'll wait for some photos of this in action. And speaking of photos, here's a few of the 40GB model.

It's true, all versions of PS3 can play PSX games. Would be kinda lame if they didn't, considering that my computer five years ago could already do it perfectly.

Here's a new 'ceramic white' PS3 for Japan: NEW PLAYSTATION®3 (CECHH00 SERIES) COMES IN TWO COLOR VARIATIONS AT A NEW PRICE | PRESS RELEASES ｜ Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.

Looks really good, much better than the ugly 'dirty white plastic' colour scheme of the 360. I might order a white DualShock 3.

HEy guys. I don't know what else is supposed to be coming, but Everyday Shooter IS coming on this weeks update for about $10. Man I can't wait. Here;s a trailer for thoes unfamiliar with the title.

Gametrailers.com - Everyday Shooter (PSN) - Chain Reaction Gameplay HD

Also announced is a new Gradius/R-type side-scrolling shooter. Visuals look like R-type, gameplay more like Gradius. Current release status is TBD.

Gametrailers.com - Soldner-X - Trailer HD

Man, I've never heard of Everyday Shooter, but that Lumines-type music interaction it has going on looks fantastic.

I'm also a fan of Jets N Guns, so Soldner X is a no-brainer for me. Now if they could just put out a Ratchet demo, this would be Perfect Update Weekstravaganza 2007.

Ratchet & Clank demo will be released this Thursday. It was planned for October 4, but got delayed one week.

That's fucking teamwork! ^5

This is the same demo that was put on disk and shipped to GameStop stores, isn't it?

I think it's the same level, but tweaked and improved.

So the Ratchet & Clank demo is fucking tits. Too bad it's only like 5 minutes long :/.

The Groovitron and the free-fall/dodge-traffic part made up for the length, though.

p.s. did i just say fucking tits

The PSN demo of Ratchet is 16 times better than the disc version, if only in that in runs at near-60 FPS constantly, which is a beautiful thing.

Anyone downloaded Everyday Shooter? It's not too bad, considering one guy did everything for it. I paid for it just to give him his crazymadskillz prop.

and yes, you did say fucking tits. :(

How many levels are there to Everyday Shooter?

Sounds groovy for a 1.6 GB demo

It seemed longer than five minutes to me, but then I also didn't finish the Heavenly Sword demo in thirty seconds like some people said they did.

Ya know what, I think I was just having more fun than usual with the demo that it just seemed to be shorter than it really was. That or the booze.

I played through it again this morning and it seemed perfectly lengthy for a demo. I REALLY want to buy the game, but I also REALLY want to actually play through the other ones first...I'm all about platformers, but I have yet to play a single Ratchet & Clank game :(. Fucked up, I know.

You can get them all for under $20 now. A used Ratchet & Clank goes for, I think $7.99, R&C: Going Commando for roughly $12.99, Up Your Arsenal for about $14.99, and you can find the fourth game, Deadlocked, new for $19.99 or used for probably $17.99.

A total of 8, but some of the unlockables include different shaders and such to make playing through it again more of a challenge.

So far I'm only up to level 4. It can get really hard to see your ship in this game, especially since your ship is only shown as a little glowing arrow in a maelstrom of cel-shading.

Like SouthJag mentioned, you can net all of them without putting too big of a dent in your wallet. The humor may not be for everyone, and the platforming slowly edging more towards third person shooter may put you off, but other than that it's a blast.

Looks like the 40GB units will be touching down in the US and ready for sale October 30th:


Seems like the original rumour of a Spider-Man 3 Blu-Ray pack seems true given the partial listing title. Regardless of the 40GB unit, I'm hoping that within the next week or 2 I'll have my hands on a 60GB model after all the crap I've ponied up on eBay. :eagletear:

Ah damn, I was hoping the 40GB model would come in at like $350 to match the $340 Japanese price.

$399 for the PS3 is an excellent deal, especially if you are looking to get into HDM. Along with Spider-Man 3, you also get 5 free Blu-ray discs with the mail-in offer.

There is also a huge B1G1 going on at almost every major retailer this week.

So I've just bought the 60GB version. I got Ridge Racer, Motor Storm and Resistance. What else should I get? (Yeah, a game reviewer asking about what to buy. I get it, the irony is SCORCHING!)
I've downloaded LocoRoco Cocorecho, and it's rather soothing to watch all those things bounce around.

I'm planning to get Warhawk too.

For PSN games I love Super Stardust HD, Everyday Shooter and Tekken. Thoes games rock.

For retail games.I'd have to reccomend.
WarHawk
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
FolkLore
Virtua Fighter 5

Must rents are;
Lair
Heavenly Sword
The Darkness

Huh. So no one's brought it up yet? The 80GB PS3 system is now priced at $499, $100 cheaper.

What's this mean for the 60GB models that are still on shelves?

It means that they will probably stay on the shelves unless individual retailers decide to slash their price in order to clear them off the shelves. You know, since Sony didn't really mention anything about that.

yeah I heard that the 40gb model will be price 399$us but I didn't know that they would lower the price of the 80gb too. I just saw that in Canada, bestbuy is selling the 80gb for 499$can I don't know if it's for a limited time or the new price cut...

eh, i hear the 40gb PS3 cant play ps1/ps2 games.

Yeah that's right. Guess it makes sense in Sony's upside down world.

Like Jacky boy sais. A PS3 for $400 and a PS2 for $130 is still less the the original $600 by $70. Just you don't get the upscaling, wireless controllers, built in memory cards, or the extra 40Gbs. Hell I wouldn't give a shit if I saved $70 if I lossed all of that.

I suppose like NDP sais though. Something like 58% of people don't even know that the PS3 can play PS1/2 games. So I guess the lack of the BC feature won't really hurt them much with the mainstream.

I thought the 40GB model could still play PS1 games, and it was only the PS2 BC that was removed?
Or am I wrong?

For those aching to play GT5 Prologue, the demo is available on the Japanese PSN. Heh though it's all in Japanese. I just tried it out myself, pretty nice. There's a driver's seat view now (don't remember that being in GT4, then again I never really played it), and you can actually control acceleration and brakes using the right analog stick (heh, I seem to drive much better using it).

Wait, so its a demo of a demo, or is it the full prologue demo?

It's a demo, because it's free. Prologue itself is actually going to cost you a couple bucks when it comes out later this year. However I hear that these prologues tend to have a decent amount of content in them, making them worth while.

60 GB systems are gonna be $499, and they said they aren't going to drop the price any more than what it already is... seems silly to me.

The right stick has done accel and brake since GT3.

I've heard that if you set up a PSN account in the UK, then when Prologue is released that it will be free. That's just a rumor though.

Since you quoted me on it Strife, lemme throw this out there regarding the 60 GB units.

GameStop is offering a pretty nice deal when you buy a 60GB PS3 new. Check your stores to see what it is.

A lot of retailers here are just selling the 60Gb model for $450. And the 80Gb model for $500 with MotorStorm and LAIR(that's FutureShop, but other retailers have similar deals).

Things are way more crazy over here. They sell the 40 GB version for 399€, while the 60 GB version still costs 599€. This is so bizarre.

Odd. SCEE's press release stated that the 60GB was going to be slashed in price too to 499€ when the 40GB unit was released. I know that in the UK it got cut down to 349.99GBP and Amazon has some pretty good deals going down for it too.

I think I'm going to go ahead and get the 60GB from Wal*Mart given their special for the 60GB includes a free Blu-Ray remote as well as a free game from a list that includes Resistence, Motorstorm, Lair and Heavenly Sword to name a few.

So I'm behind on the PS3 mod scene or more than likely the lack of one. Has a reasonable way to copy and play PS2 games off of the PS3 hard drive been developed yet?

Heck no man. There's been virtually no mods. Unless you count running Linux on the system. But seeing how Sony approves of that it's not really a mod.

Perhaps someone with a closer eye on the scene may know of something in the pipeline however.

Well I finally got my 60gig unit on Monday which I've been playing around with these past 2 days and all in all I'm glad I dropped the cash.

Problem though: I can't get it to connect online. I'm no good at all this technical whatchamacallits and going by the "Easy" and "Automatic" setup yielded no success with just a "IP looking time out". I'm a Comcast high speed internet user and without a router and my modem in the other room I basically unplugged the ethernet cable between my PC and modem and then used a 25ft ethernet cable to connect the PS3 to the modem in the PC's place.

So errr...any help would be greatly appreciated. :(

you might have to reset the modem every time you switch between the pc and the ps3....

I would suggest you get router, or take your current cable modem back to comcast, and switch it for a cable modem/wireless router that they offer.

I dont know if this helps but...when my friend came over with his ps3, we tried it online at first and it didn't work. It was all hooked up, but the problem was, my cable modem connects with a usb connection...so the usb connection was still connected to the computer, and that caused I guess..a confusion with where the internet should be directed to? As soon as I took out the usb connection from the PC, the internet worked on the ps3 :).


Hope thats what you're dealing with.

Strife is right. The modem assigns an IP each time it is turned on. So if you change the item without resetting it's not going to assign an IP to the PS3.

So you have to unplug it for 2-5minutes and then plug the modem back in with the ethernet cable already inserted in the desired device. Only way around this is to get a router which allows you to have both hooked up at the same time with no switching.

Every time I turn the PS3 on in my apartment, the wireless router has to reset itself. It's kinda weird cuz it affects the modem too. But I just give it a second and it works fine.

Does it on both wired and wireless connections.

Well this worked and the connection test for the IP and connection was a success but it didn't last long and from then out the system wouldn't even recognise an ethernet cable was plugged in and any attempt to retry the process left me at stage 1 again in trying to get an IP address...:mad:

I'll give it another try later and if it still doesn't work then I guess I'll look into getting a router and see if that helps.

Hey, so rumors are going around about a new PS3 firmware 2.0 update that's supposedly going to be released soon.

It all started with the latest PSP 2.72 firmware update:
If this is anything what it sounds like, this will make the remote play feature about 147 times cooler than it already is. Kind of a pain to go away for a long time and leave your PS3 on at home in "remote play" mode, so if this will allow the PSP to remotely switch the PS3 on and off, that would be pretty convenient indeed.

I'm a little skeptical about this because I know that if the PS3 is in sleep mode, then there is no network connection. But could a firmware update change this behavior?

ANYWAYS.

It looks like the 2.0 update may be coming very soon. In the comments of this ThreeSpeech blog post, it shows this -
Yeah, it's all speculation at this point, but a lot of people are talking customizable XMB themes (like the PSP), as well as in game access to the XMB, which would totally rock. Hopefully we'll get some more information or at least some confirmation about this big update soon...

EDIT:
AND WHERE THE HELL IS MY HOT SHOTS GOLF 5? I have been anticipating that game for the longest time...

In-game XMB access would be about the greatest thing they could add at this point.

The 2.0 firmware is also supposed to mark another major cut in required system resources for the Playstation OS. Memory reservations in main memory will be cut in half and video memory by 3/4th of current. The OS will also not require one of the SPEs be reserved though the requirement that a game application be able to give up a SPE on request of the OS will still be required. This was mentioned a few months back so I don't know if they are still on track to introduce this in the 2.0 version, but these changes should eventually come along in a future update.

That would be nice. Then developers can get back to memory hoaring instead of optimizing their games.

Well I managed to finally get my PS3 online last night thanks to a router a friend at work let me borrow, of course he only tells me today that it's actually broken and only connects 1 device after I asked why my PC wasn't getting online...:tpg:

Anyways as long as it works until I get my own router then I'm good especially with the Uncharted demo this Thursday. So all last night I basically pissed around setting up my PSN account and downloading various demos for the likes of Heavenly Sword, John Woo's Stranglehold and Ratchet & Clank. I just wish my local video store had more PS3 games instead of the 6 titles they have so then that way I wouldn't have to head out to the next town over to rent from Blockbuster.

Has anyone seen the new PS3 commercials? Seems like there was 1 shown during every commercial break on FOX and during the Heroes reruns on G4.

yeah, the new commercials look pretty cool, and yes, they did run at least 1 per commercial break during both the episodes of family guy tonight.

PS3 2.00 Firmware Tomorrow
PSP/PS3 remote play functionality has been pretty much fully optimized, but there is still no in game XMB :(. Customize themes I guess is pretty cool...but I can think of QUITE a few things I would have much rather seen.

http://www.threespeech.com/blog/wp-c.../002-004.1.jpg
What the hell is this picture? Is this the 'information board'? Is it basically like an RSS feed for Sony news or something?

Oh yeah. Uncharted demo tomorrow. Everybody check it out and then buy that game.

The PSP has RSS support, so I would imagine the PS3 would too.

As for 2.0, definately not what it could have been. And because I have a hacked PSP the remote play update is no use to me. What a drag...

Uncharted demo, give me a HOO-RA!!

Information board, LoL. Oh, you mean this.

NO GAMES.
11/10/07

NO GAMES.
11/14/07

NEW BLU-RAY MOVIE.
11/21/07

NO GAMES.
11/21/07

The XMB customization should be aight. At least I'll be able to see the damn icons on my wallpaper now.

I am still waiting for my Blu-ray screen-capture function, as well as 1:85 stretch.

Why is the remote play of no use? If you have the latest M-33 custom firmware with the 1.5 kernel, then it's the location free player that was removed - not the remote play feature.

And yeah, I can't fucking wait for that Uncharted demo. I have been anticipating that game for quite some time now.

EDIT:
Yeah, I can't see that Info Board being too...interesting, I guess. I'll just have to wait and see what it really does.

The auto-on feature requires your PSP to have 3.75. I don't know what version M-33 is currently at however, but my PSP most definately is not 3.75 M-33 which is what matters.

You know, I have wanted this function since THE FIRST DAY that I had my PS3.

I don't know why the movies simply don't have a tag on them like the games. Really, what's up with that?

Not exactly what I was referring to, but also, the new Spiderman blu-rays actually do have an image associated with them, rather than just the little blu-ray disc icon.

I've only had my ps3 for 2 weeks now, but I have a question... is there any way to see what your friends are playing online? I can see that they are online, but how do i know what they are playing so I can with them?

It's not featured yet. I expect a lot of the online functionality is being held back to be put into Home. I just hope they offer a lot of the Home functionality within the XMB once it finally comes out.

And FYI, 2.0 hit a bit early and is available right now.

Oh? From the people I've added , it says "Tekken Dark Resurrection". I thought it was that. As for 2.0 , nothing special.

It does say when someone is playing a PS3 game or downloading content, but that's it. It doesn't say anything when they're playing games off their HDD, PS2 games, or watching a movie.

I think it just plain signs you out when playing a PS2 game. :(

This could be cool. PS3 Theme Creator.

Granted, I have no artistic ability whatsoever, but hopefully other people will create some pretty unique and beautiful themes for all of us to use. Maybe they will start popping up on deviant art, or something.

Ah, I didn't realize that the auto on feature required 3.75 firmware on the PSP :(. In that case, I'm out of luck as well until they release M-33 3.75+...








AAAHHHHH UNCHARTED DEMO TODAY :rock: :megaman: ^5 :beer: :edgarrock:

@Forsety
You're right, it does sign you out when playing PS2 games. Or at least the PS3s with the PS2 hardware does because it switches the PS3 hardware off/standby. I'm not sure if the software emulation works the same way however.

@BlueBomber
I was hoping that you were gonna proove me wrong, but I was pretty sure that the auto-on was a 3.75 feature. It sucks to be right sometimes.

UNCHARTED DEMO TODAY ^5 :rock:

This theme creator is so my kind of thing. Well something to do with the machine while waiting for the games.

Damn. The PS Store's got so many people on it, I can't even get in. Is the Uncharted demo up and running?

Edit: Bah. They're doing maintenance. Bad day to do that, don'tcha think? Anyway, has anyone successfully used the PS3 as a media server using Windows XP? I downloaded a few different programs that all said they worked, but nothing has. I've heard Windows Media Player 11 will work, but I can't figure out how to do it.

"SimpleCenter" works for me on the PS3. You might want to try that, I couldn't get anything else to work right.

Click the arrow tab under library in WMP11 and there should be a media sharing option. Check the "allow new hardware" box and you should be set.

While music and images work without a hitch. Video remains a problem for myself aswell.

I feel kinda dumb now. Never noticed the "Media Sharing" option under Library. Thanks Slayer!

Does SimpleCenter stream videos pretty well? I doubt it's a feature I'd ever use, but still.

Heh... we should have a thread for the ps3 themes made on GFF. (Or just the best themes out there)

Well when they start showing up on the net, feel free to do so. I would actually like that.

@SouthJag
No problem. I know I spent some time trying to find that poorly placed feature. Everyone was talking about their problems with it and I couldn't find it at the time, lol.

There's an article about creating custom themes on Engadget, but they link you to this guy's blog. He tells you how to do it, but I tried to run the compiler and it failed.

Hopefully someone'll get it to work and make an awesome theme.

Of course I have the best idea for a theme ever. All icons replaced with squadron insignias from Ace Combat series.

Here comes the pose.

Found this place with some decent looking themes:

PS3 Themes // Themes for the PlayStation 3

Have fun!

There are also a few official themes on the Playstation network.

This is just bullshit, apparently dust voids your console's warrantly now. In Sony's eyes anyway. Now I gotta be even more anal about keeping my console clean (already got linen covering it, when not in operation obivously, to keep the cat hair out).

This is quite interesting
Sony: Dust Voids PS3 Warranty

Having worked at a PC repair business before I can tell you that dust voids your warranty on every component in your PC. Keeping your system clean is your responsibility, not the responsibility of the manufacturer.

PCs are a different beast because they're made to be opened and tinkered with. Unless you were silly enough to buy a premade machine. Consoles operate on unique pieces of hardware, and it's easier to void warranty.

I have trouble believing that this story was not embellished or exaggerated at any point along the way, though.

Just a small question, Is the ps3 more "sensitive" to dust than the ps2?

I'm asking because in my room there is a weird dust problem... no idea where it comes, but it's always there.

This sounds crazy, but some people even vacuum their houses.

@Skexis
Actually you are able to open the PS3's lid without voiding your warrenty, the void sticker is on the seal plate inside now, so keeping it clean is the customer's responsability.

As for the dust voids the warrenty dispute itself, it's hard to know if Sony is right or wrong without seeing pictures of what the dispute is over.

UPDATE!
"
Ive: I'm calling just to pretty much clarify the PS3's warranty, if there's any clause in the warranty that makes it so that if the PS3 is too dusty that the warranty is void.
CSR: No.

Ive: No?

CSR: No. The only way that it, um, voided is if it was neglected, um, abused, dropped or anything like, modificated like if you opened it up, modification, if you didn't have your receipt, um, any power failures like mother nature or anything like that then that actually does void the warranty. Other than that any defective PS3s or anything like that is still, um, still under the warranty."

Ive spoke to several CSRs, each of whom took a similar position until they read the account notes. Apparently, a tech determined that the fearsome dust constituted neglect and presented a threat to his health.

To his credit, the CSR handled a ridiculous situation fairly well.

Sony CSR: What? No! Dust Doesn't Void Your PS3 Warranty!

Good luck vacuum-ing your little electronic devices~

Meh, after a second thought I think it's like Skexis said, it's just exaggerated.

And Slayer X, I'm quiet interested in what you are saying... do you know a site with a decent guide to open the ps3? (My googling skills are royally failing tonight)

This is more then you need. You can go up to image step 6. Anything beyond that you risk damaging your system and voiding your warrenty.

Playstation 3 Disassembly Tutorial

Oh noes! Nakedz ps3!!!
*blushes*

Heh, just kidding... thanks! (Once a year I'll try to clean the poor thing)

Um, did anyone else's PS3 get bricked after playing the Uncharted demo/Installing the 2.00 update? I did both earlier today and after trying to play Heavenly Sword a few minutes ago I was told the game data was corrupt and I would have to delete it. There was no Game Data so I reset the console only to see that the hard disk's file system is corrupt (=D) and whenever I try to restore it I am given the same error message over and over, so basically I am out of a PS3 at the moment.

I don't know what caused the error (2.00, Uncharted or Heavenly Sword, or just a random fuckup) but since I assume that all of you downloaded the 2.00 update that you be careful.

I haven't had that problem. The only thing I've encountered is the Timeshift demo freezing my PS3 tot he point where I have to hard-reset it using the power button on the back. I've played the Uncharted demo several times without any problems.

I know there are quite a few Okami fans on the site so check it out -

Okami PS3 Theme

http://dot50cal.the-horror.com/gaf/themes/okami.jpg



EDIT:

Ooh. And also:

Shadow of The Colossus PS3 Theme

http://dot50cal.the-horror.com/gaf/themes/sotc.jpg

Kick ass. Way to keep a look out BB. ^^

Wow, the Okami theme is awesome!! Thanks a lot!

Good Lord, Shadow of the Colossus!?

I love you!

PS3 Getting DivX Support (second source)

Wow. I can FINALLY stream porn to my computer without some wacky programs.

Yeah this is real good news. I had always hoped that either the PS3 or the 360 would get DivX support one day, making my life a lot easier. And today's the day... well sort of. Still have to wait for the update, heh heh ^^;

Well, it looks like the 360 is getting DivX support as well.

(I know, that should have probably gone in the 360 thread, but it was sort of a comment about your comment, and I don't have a 360 so I feel weird going in those threads :(...)

Yay, a few more standards and I'll spend more time on my ps3 than on my pc.

Most awesome update ever, if it's true

To date, over 100 million DivX Certified(R) products have been shipped into the market, and it is anticipated PS3 will significantly expand that number.
That's fucking brilliant comedy, though

Yeah, I just realized that DivX support would make Remote Play with the PSP about 100 times more awesome.

Wow, the possibilities. My entire porn collection, but on the go.

:confused:

You wanting to access your porn collection while having lunch at McDonalds, or while taking a break from studying at the university library? That's messed up dude.

Wow they are really listening to their customers when it comes to media playback on the PS3. I wonder if they will take the next step and offer MKV container support like some standalone DVD players have been offering.

Pretty awesome news. I guess I can throw in "irregular converted" mp4's in there. Hey I thought divX also has .mkv's... No problem though. The real question is when =].

Haha, I was being sarcastic dude. I guess I need to work on my internet humor :/.

I would never watch anything like that where anybody could ever see me (especially in public, let alone my living room where the PS3 and my 4 roommates usually are.)

Have they figured out how to play 5.1 audio from .MP4 yet.

I know that the latest firmware supports multichannel audio, but only for .ts. But nobody care about that.

The next update may. It seems this is going to be a big media playback update. XviD support is also being rumored now along with internal audio channel upmixing support for the 3 or so PS3 owners who don't own a Pro Logic II receiver. There are talks of the PS3 being able to read shared files/folders on a network without using a special protocol in the next update as well. It seems the only thing holding them back at this point is working out licensing deals with various patent holders for each format and dealing with Microsofts lock on NTFS.

Heh, the ps3 gets better each day as a freaking amazing media center...
(Good stuff while we wait for lovely games)

That's good to hear. I am pretty much content with everything the PS3 has to offer at this point, other than the lack of 5.1 and FLAC support.

Wait a sec. By special protocol, do you mean a media server, such as WMP11? That would be...so cool if they could do that.

No he means so that the PS3 can access content on networked computers without needing any programs like WMP11.

Yeah that's what I meant.

Let me just clarify - with this rumored update, setting up WMP11 as a media server for the PS3 can be considered redundant and unnecessary because the PS3 will now have the ability to read shared network folders & files, providing direct access to the content?

(I hope I worded that better :/)

Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me too ^^

Yes, that is exactly what I mean.

Right now the PS3 only has limited file sharing protocols active in the form of Window Media Share which is also loaded with DRM. But it looks like Sony is slowly moving away from the DRM protection the PS3 was originally designed with which has opened the path to h.264 playback, unencrypted multichannel audio playback and now DivX/XviD. And of course using an open protocol like IP/TCP (which the PS3 already has for Internet access) for file sharing is looking to be a likely reality. The Playstation 3 SDKs already allow for this. Looks like it was just disabled on consumer machines most likely for DRM reasons.

And actually if they just dump Windows Media Sharing altogether in favor of IP/TCP sharing they'll be able to cut the OS memory footprint even more.

Oh hey - Playstation Universe has a whole page dedicated to user created PS3 Themes. You can upload your own themes and everything.

some of those theme are really good, it just too bad that I don't have and HDTV >.< there's no 4:3 support for theme apparently XD

Well the Okami one has 4:3 support. You just lose the banner on the backdrop. Also they're all support 4:3 just that you may have to change the wallpaper to one that fits your screen, that's all.

yeah it's just the wallpaper I know XD

but for now I'm really enjoy the pixel them with the gray wave background ^^

See, it pays to make judgments in context. For thoes who don't know what I'm talking about, I'm talking about thoes people who said that Sony were asses for not servicing "that" PS3 that was too dusty to repair.

Well here's the pictures, would you want to touch it? I sure as hell wouldn't and whoever treats their stuff like this deserves to lose their console.

http://consumerist.com/assets/resour...ront-thumb.jpg

http://consumerist.com/assets/resour...11/1-thumb.JPG

http://consumerist.com/assets/resour...11/2-thumb.JPG

Polls: Is This Playstation 3 Too Dusty To Be Repaired Under Warranty?

Granted, dust doesn't really constitute a threat to someone's health, especially considering all the methods one could use to clear dust, but that amount of filth is pretty much considered negligent abuse by any electronics manufacturer.

I'd say that indirect abuse and laziness at its finest.

Wow, looks like the user loves to play dirty.
(eww... bad joke, I know... kill me and end my suffering )

Hahaha, wow, yea I take back my comment then. That's clearly consumer's neglect, however I wouldn't classify it as "life threatening", but definitely not good. When I read the article I was under assumption that the collected dust was internally in the system, I didn't think the guy was so lazy as to not keep the outside of it clean.

Too bad there's no ICO or Ace Combat themes. Haha pretty sweet how there's a Gears of War theme though.

Ohhh man, I don't want to see the look of his house.

A few days ago my Ps3 arrived. But I was soooo lucky that I got a defective one. Yep, my worst fear became true. It seems that the GPU is defective or something. If anyone knows something about this let me know:



I'm doing my best not to return the console, since the international shipping cost is very high. But if it's the gpu, i have no other choice but to return it.

How are the odds? Really?!

That looks like a dffective GPU to me.

Ouch, I know what you mean about international shipping... heh, sometimes it's better to buy a new product than return it.

But my Ps3 is new and I won't buy another one since 600 dollars for american people is like 1800 dollars for us. It's a 60gb model. I need to send it back so it can be replaced for another one (and i will need to pay the freaking shippment again). The shipping is not THAT high, but it's a pain in the ass to wait for another two months for my new ps3.

It's very strange all this. I've found only one video of a guy with the same problem. I didn't find any other ps3 with the same issue.

Well that's just it. With such a decent cooling system within the PS3 a fried GPU is 90% likely to be manufacture caused rather then caused when in use. (hope that made sense) So it's probably not going to be very common or well documented.

This may do absolutely nothing, but see if you can update the firmware, therefore if it is software caused it may fix matters. However I'm still most certain that it's a faulty GPU. But it's worth a try no?

Wah I didnt mean your ps3... I would returned it too!. (and yeah 600 for them, like 2x-3x for us... heh)

Anyways, too bad this is happening to you... I heard that the ps3 came very well and very few people have problems with it.

In any case, Good luck!

I'm 99% sure that the half-naked anime girl in the corner is creating the interference, but just in case it isn't, do you want to tell us how you are hooking it up to the TV.

It could actually be the HDMI bugging out.

I tried HDMI, composite and component. I also updated to firmware 2.0

If I turn the ps3 on and leave it downloading demos, it doesn't freeze. I left it for 6 hours and worked great. But when I start messing around with the XMB or try to play ANY demo or game, the system freezes and starts to make all those pixel noise. Sometimes I can still hear the music and sound effects, but after a few minutes it completely freezes. I can play for 10 minutes before it freezes.

There is no overheat at all and I don't have any elecricity problems in the house.

I believe that there is definitely something wrong inside the machine since i tried everything.

Or as Megalith said, it could just be a plastic figure doing the interference :tpg:

This is a video from a guy who had the same problem: Click

Anyways, I'm sending it tomorrow.

I could theorize a couple things based off what you said, but nothing that's a quick or simple fix so unfortunately it does look like you're going to have to send it in.

So did anyone do that bullshit upgrade for the ps3 last night? It supposed to had fix a bug that made the ps3 function weird or something. I never notice anything but oh well. Here I was hoping they would add divX. Guess not.

Yeah I did, and last night was the first night that I did not get the white screen in Assassin's Creed. So it must have done something.

Now that you mentioned the white screen, This weird color glitch would show up after I finish playing a ps2/3 game and move onto the menu screen. It doesn't do it anymore then.

I asked this one question a long time ago but does anyone here get no sound in the menu after you play a ps2 game (cd-rom/blue colored disk). PS1 and ps2 games(only dvd-rom/silver colored disks) works fine and doesn't do anything weird to the ps3.

Not that I've ever notices.

Oh ok. I think it wouldn't matter anyway because the only game that does that is Marvel vs Capcom 2. Maybe it's too old of a game.

I'll have to try that out and let you know then. I have the game, just stopped playing it because of its music mostly.

Just another news of how awesome the cell processor is:

BBC NEWS | Technology | PlayStation speeds password probe

And this is starting to annoy me, looks like everyone is making wonders with this freaking processor - except - the game developers.

Oh well, I guess they need some time...

Is there anyone here with an HDMI receiver that can process MPCM.

Need someone to confirm that 5.1 AAC is possible, but only if your receiver decodes AAC internally or is MPCM capable through HDMI.

Sorry, I only have a humble (but lovely) Onkyo 605... anyways, check this:

Making PS3 compatible MPEG-4 AVC (H.264) files, now with 5.1 AAC audio - PLAYSTATION®3 Media - PlayStation.com Forums

The Onkyo 605 can process MPCM over HDMI. The unit can handle TrueHD and DTS-HD MA, after all.

I just read that guide, and it's absurd to go through all that just to get one trailer to play in 5.1. I'll just have to wait until Sony offers an update for transcoding AAC.

Completely true, I guess it's just time to wait for it to get another firmware update.

Posting in a closed thread.

I can't decide if this is the best joke ever, or the worst thing in the history of manshaped things. Hopefully the first...

Did I miss something?

Dude I have no clue what the hell is going on right now. Almost feels like a Nintendo game.

Suggesting all PS3 discussion threads be closed until the system actually gets games.

I have some interesting news on the NO PS3 GAMES front. There is a rumor that a popular Square-Enix RPG franchise may be headed to the system in the future. It is unclear at this time if the series will return to its pre-suckiness days, or if it will be another disappointment, but at least there is a dim light at the end of the tunnel for now. Until then, sorry, no games.

Clearly Star Ocean 4. Why lie.

ITT poor people

Keep saving those pennies boys, some day you'll be able to afford a real man's console

Um... last I checked there's a difference between being unable and unwilling to buy a PS3.

I think our boy was just a little too late to catch the joke title, Mo0. I'm gonna cut him a tiny bit of slack and assume that, or assume he's playing along.

No one's so retarded as to state something like that in all seriousness, right?

Hmm... has anyone heard about this game?: IGN: Angel Love Online

No I haven't heard of it. But seeing as how the game can probably run on any PC made within the last decade, I'd just go get the PC version and forget about the PS3 one coming to the US.

UPDATE: Rock Band patch TODAY to enable the GH3 guitar to work with Rock Band.

Oh come on, the idea is to make the ps3 do something beyond a fancy media center.

That must be why it can't play any of the videos stored on my computer that the 360 could play even before the DivX (+more) update.

Not enough love from you mister. Besides, stream the darn thing.

Hmm, I need your inputs people.... I'm going to grab a game for this christmas and I'm torn between two games:

Assassins Creed and Folklore....


So which do you think I should get :o

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune. Your two suggestions are both really good games as well, but if you haven't played Uncharted or Ratchet and Clank yet, then those two rightfully should come first.

But strictly between those two? I'd say Folklore, but that's a pretty niche game. Macabre story line, extreme fantasy locales and kinda slow on the action, but a really solid game. Assassin's Creed's also really fun, if a little repetition doesn't bother you.

Hi ps3 owners. I got a ps2 and it served me well. but last month my gf asked me what I wanted for xmas and I jokingly said "a ps3" and now I have it here staring at me. :P

But here in this small asia country of mine orginal blueray games cost at arm and a leg. (the console cost a 5 hectares of land :p)
I never tought shed get one so I didnt bother to research on this amazing looking paperweight, and just found out it cant play "back-up" copies of ps2s that I have. ;P

Can anyone give me a tip on how to "fix" this? :D

There is currently no means of modding a PS3, so you're out of luck in that department.

As far as I remember, there isn't a working chip for the ps3... and even if you get one, the blu-ray burners are quite expensive and so is the media. (Obviously this doesn't apply for DVDs)

And... you don't want to put "bootlegged" games on your ps3 if you put it online.

I guess all you can do is wait, or start exporting stuff...

Ok then that fine with me, but how about downloadable free games or demos? I just read wikipedia that this thing has a harddrive and it can even browse the internets! ;P (my ps2 was just used the simple old fashioned way, insert the disc and play, this thing is like a pc!!!) sorry Im a real noob at this new hardware

Yeah, beyond the media center functionality you can download some demos, tons of trailers and some other stuff all for free. Full games cost some money and full videos will be a reality in the not-so-far future.

However, it needs tons of video codecs (most likely it will get those on the future) and don't expect much from the internet browser.

The ps3 still has a loooong way to go...

thanks comrade! one last question for everyone, could you recommend a playable game demo I should I download? Whats the best playable game demo released so far?

Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Uncharted w/e the hell it's called, Gran Turismo, Heavenly Sword (the demo is way too short), and the Devil May Cry demo which isn't out yet but should be out soon. If you want a cheap game, and I dont know where you live, import Enchanted Arms from North America even tho the game is really boring, but some say it's not that bad once you get half way thru the game.

Thank you Dagobert! Thanks so much!

Fucking Sony. I hate them now. I just found out my 40gb model cant play ps2 games. I just bought a ps2 game a while ago and to my surprise it would play. This ps3 came from japan and all the manuass are in japanese which I cant read so I didnt know. All their ads a few months ago said it was backwards compatible and now they took it out just like that? I hate sony! I cant wait for a modchip to get out or an iso loader, Im not going to buy any sony product from now on, sheese ps3 games expensive. I shouldve gotten an xbox.

It is common knowledge that they removed backwards compatibility in the 40 gig model. This is something that has been discussed, at length, all over the internet, and has been discussed in this thread. It is not completely Sony's fault that you were misinformed.

Yeah, the box would clearly say "Playstation 2 format software titles do not perform on this system", but if you bought a Japanese system without really knowing what you're buying, it's pretty much your own bad.

I didn't think you planned on buying any in the first place.

Can't you just play PS2 games on the PS2 you already have?

Just an interesting article about the "usage" of the new generation consoles (A/V related)

Gamers Ripe for High-End A/V Systems, Research Shows - CE Pro Article

lo. sorry I ranted. :P I was just pissed as I just bought an original metal gear solid 2 that doesnt play on the ps3 when I couldve gotten this the other way heh. I thought I could dispose the ps2 since the new one can do everything as advertised. I guess not.
*sigh* Im a poor gamer.

What if you got a Japanese xbox 360 and it happened to be the core version. How would you play xbox games then? Cause it's in Japanese and yea you get my point. Or or... it was the premium but it doesn't play all the xbox games, most of the xbox Madden shit games are playable on the 360 premium.

Lol pwned, but yea I think you can play PS1 games on it. If I were you I'd trade it for a 20gb PS3 or if some one is dumb enough to give their 60gb for your 40gb model. Or just sell it and I'm sure you can buy a 20gb model in that price with a game or two.

Wow. I haven't posted here in quite a while.

Anyways - Tomorrow we get firmware 2.10...

...AND THAT MEANS DIVX.

wtf is blu-ray 1.1...

Profile 1.1 allows for advanced interactivity features (such as PIP).

I don't care about anything anymore other than screen capture function for videos and Blu-ray movies.

Well besides in-game XMB which sounds like will happen eventually in the future since the lead Sony engineer made a comment about it being known as the most want feature, I hope for a fix in every firmware update that prevents the damn controller from turning off every time I enter PS2 emulation mode.

Blu-ray Disc Profile 1.1 is a big deal though and a huge step for Blu-Ray to become the chosen standard of the two competing formats.

I want a xmb screen capture feature, so when I make a PS3 theme I actually have a real preview to use.

lol okay???

^ Please follow post quality guidelines.

Also, as far as I know most pirated video files aren't 'copyright protected' or larger than 700 MB or 1.36 GB, so I don't think the limit is a problem. Unless you want to play hi-def Blu-ray rips or something.

Is there anyone that uses TVersity who can elaborate on how the hell to make it work in a more practical manner?

I noticed that when you delete items from your shared folders, the PS3 still thinks that it's there. Two trailers that I deleted last night are still there, and they shouldn't, since I had shut down my computer last night, meaning a restart of TVersity.

I am trying to refresh my media library, but seems like it's taking forever, even though I only have a single shared folder with like, one media file. TVidiocy.

EDIT: Nevermind, TVersity likes to show the "busy" icon even when it's done refreshing your media.

Yeah, I myself always hated TVersity for never being able to keep up with my computer's library of resources. Therefore I've just stuck with WMP11's media hosting abilities. It may not be the best, I have no clue. All I know is that I'm done wasting my time on this crap and that it works.

http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/12/dmc1.jpg

Looks pretty sick. I only wish we can get something like this over here.

So this means the 360 will get one as well..



In light of the ps3, it looks like all my ps2 games works very well and doesn't have that bug where it eliminates the picture and sound. Still, the controller turns off on its own. Nothing too serious though.

Anyone buy the original WarHawk on PSN?

I can't believe they made that rubbish MP game for PS3 instead of a true sequel.

Seeing the FMV brings back so many good memories.

Does the White PS3 come with the White Dual Shock 3? Or just a White Sixaxis controller?

well I just checked playasia and they say that it's coming with a white sixaxis. I think for now ps3 will be sold with the sixaxis and when Sony will have released the dualshock3 worldwide they will consider it to bundle it up with the console.

Well I think everyone knows that they're going to phase out the SIXAXIS sooner or later. Everyone just wondering as to when this well happen and I don't think Inhert is too off with his theory. After the DS3 has been released worldwide they'll probably phase it out I would imagine. It's cheaper to produce 1 version of something rather then 2.

Just a nice heads-up:

IF ANYONE WANTS ASSASSIN'S CREED (PS3):
It's only $28 over at Best Buy this week.
($37.99 sale price +$10 off any PS3 game coupon)

The coupon's here, in case you want $10 off any other PS3 game, too.
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/251/bestbuy1lh6.jpg

Enjoy!

Also in Canada at least they had an Assassin's Creed & CoD4 double pack for the PS3 for like $40-50. Good luck finding it now though.

So has anyone ran into issues with the XMB locking up recently? I haven't had any in-game problems but I finally got to mess around with the functions of the PS3 over Christmas for the first time in a long time and it locked up on me twice. I'm positive this isn't heat related since the system fan was running at its lowest in both instances. The PS3 recognized both errors too as when I attempted to turn off the system to reboot it I got the three beep error code both times.

I've been using mine a lot lately too and I haven't had that problem at least yet. Though I'm sure it will be fixed in the next patch or two if enough people are experiancing the issue.

I was expecting a lot of ps3 games for Christmas but instead I got a nice little HDTV for my little room lol

it's just a 20'' but really i doN,t have room for a real big HDTV and just this one is alread FAR superior than my sdtv XD

well now all I need is buy all the game that I wanted for Christmas... ; ; I so wanted to buy Assassin's creed for only 39.99$ at best buy but they have no more >.< I guess I'll wait a little more.

for now, I'll replay all my games and demo in HDTV to see how pretty it is XD

oh btw is there a clear way to know if your HDTV support the Full RGB?

If your panel is an 8-bit panel it will only support Limited RGB. If it is a 10-bit or 14-bit panel it will support Full Range RGB. In reality any display will support this, however 8-bit panels will normally produce noticeable banding if you try and feed it a full range signal.

Either way this should not matter. The differences between limited and full basically change how you calibrate your display. A HDTV set to full range properly calibrated will look exactly the same as a HDTV set to limited properly calibrated. Most people who use their HDTV as a PC monitor will calibrate around a Full Range RGB signal since this is the standard output for PCs and people who use their HDTV for games and movies will use Limited Range and calibrate around that.

I don't suppose theres a hack for the ps3 to play burned ps2 games is there.
I don't want to get rid of my modded one yet >_>

There is no way to mod a PS3 as of this time.

yeah I know theres not mod but since the psp is so small and so full of possibilities I thought there would be some hacks for the ps3 as well because of the whole harddrive built into and stuff *_*

I heard there's a way to use Swap Magic discs, but it is blocked in the later firmware upgrades. It also requires you to perform a hardware mod so that you can swap the disc without pressing the eject button.

I am not doing a hardware mod on a 300 quid console I just bought. Or rather... am just about to buy.

I'll even wait a year after the first modchip is released before I ever get mine modded. Damned expensive huge black box...... of goodness :D lol

PS2/1 games look hideous on PS3.

Keep your old systems.

You have your PS3 set to 1080p output for the PS1/PS2 upscaling? Playing games from my PS2 on my HDTV looks bad to the point of unplayable while the PS3 upscaling actually makes most of them look pretty damned good.

PS3's upscaling is laughable, and results in an image that looks as if it was smeared with vaseline (no smoothing). Allowing my TV to upscale results in a better image, but the PS3's awful deinterlacing creates an image that is still unnaturally soft.

If the PS3 could output the original 480i signal, all would be well.

The PS3 uses Nvidias per-pixel adaptive deinterlacing and scaling found in the latest PureVideo. I doubt there is a TV out there with better scaling and deinterlacing hardware, but maybe they are using some shader settings that don't look good to you and unfortunately there is only an on/off setting for it. Maybe one day they'll allow for more user control of the scaler like sharpness level during the inverse transformation.

I dont see anything wrong with the PS3's upscaling. I'm playing FFVIII on my PS3 right now and it looks great compared to it running on a ps1 or a ps2 on a HDTV.

I dont see that coupon on their website.

Yeah, I know, that coupon's not on their website. That's why I gave a link to it from a CheapAssGamers.com post.

That's a coupon they gave out for some Playstation Underground membership or something, I don't know. It doesn't scan properly, but it works when the cashier keys in the SKU number.

I know that PS2/1 emulation on the 80GB model is laughable, but does Sony have any intention on improving it (firmware upgrades that allow more games to be played)? I'd buy a 60GB model, but I just don't trust buying it used. Finding it new won't be easy.

Software emulation is above 90% now and hardly laughable. And yes they seem to fit in small fixes for BC in nearly every firmware release.

Ah, that's good to hear. Guess I was reading an old article.

For example Ar Tonelico and Growlanser Generations never worked before the latest update, but now they're fine.

Also for thoes trying to argue whether Megalith is right or not it's useless. Megalith is pretty much a videophile / audio quality freak. Not that there's anything wrong with that but the more one knows the more things they notice. Myself personally, I think that 75% of PS2 games look like crap anyway so I don't really care. And all that I do play on it are 2D fighting games, so I wouldn't be able to tell you whether it's better or worse.

But I'm sure the PS3 upscaling is fine for most who can't tell the difference.
(I also have the 60Gb system, so there may be a difference compared to the 80Gb version, I don't know)

I just noticed it now, when did we get this new visual thing when we play musics? Before, we had only two, the huge swirl which was like the ps3's XMB Background, and then the wave thing that changes colors, now we have one that shows us the moon, and the earth? It depends perhaps on the current time I guess since its night time here :o

-edit- Ah, Earth Visualization... came with 2.10.... meow~

The Earth Visualization is pretty awesome, now we only need a visual theme like the one in folding@home a.k.a. the best PS3 game there will ever be.

Well yeah okay we don't really need stuff like that, but it would be cool anyway.

There are some visualization in the psp that would look good in HD.... I wonder why they wont 'port' those? :|

I wanna see 2nd visualiation from the PSP on the PS3, it's the one after the colored dotted bars.

Can I use the LCD monitor for my PC as an HD monitor for my PS3? The monitor's native resolution is 1280x1024, so I imagine it should be able to handle 720p from the PS3. It is a 4:3 aspect ratio screen, so I assume I'll get a letterbox display with black borders.

Since gaming and Blu-Ray is all I would use HD TV for, I'm tempted to buy a widescreen monitor rather than an HD TV. Is that a sound decision? It can do double duty that way, saving my limited space. If this will work, what cables and such do I need to make it all work together?

Look for a monitor with HDMI input. Or buy an HDTV and let it double as your monitor, using a VGA cable with your PC.

If you're looking at an LCD monitor with an HDMI input, it's gonna cost you arround 600$ - 700$. In that price you can get an HDTV or add a couple hundred dollars maybe, I think those Vizio TV's are pretty cheap. I hear that LCD monitors dont serve that well for using it as a TV as well, but it could be wrong so I'm not sure. Like russ said, buy an HDTV and you could use that as your PC monitor.

Heres one for 550$ Vizio Inc. - Products - VIZIO VW26L HDTV it's not 1080p but I dont know if you care about that or not, but yea Vizio is pretty cheap.

As long as you have an DVI port, you can use a HDMI-DVI cable to connect the PS3 directly to it (and then get audio through the standard AV cable or an optical audio cable). Pretty sure games will be letterboxed, but otherwise it will work the same as if you're hooking it up to an HDTV.

Although I hear there used to be a requirement of having HDCP on your monitor for that to work, but supposedly it was removed in later firmwares so you can hook it up to any monitor. But I haven't had experience with this myself so I'm just going by what I've heard others say.

After a little research, it seems like my monitor doesn't support HDCP, so if Sony did not remove it I definitely need to buy a new monitor. It seems unlikely Sony would remove that anyway, because... it's apparently part of the HDMI specification, and the PS3 is sold as compliant with that. I feel like I should have a widescreen anyway, so I'll just go shopping once my wallet has taken some time to regenerate.

Thanks for the advice, it's going to come in handy on my search. I hope I can find something that does acceptable double-duty. The PS3 and the PC are the only sources of high resolution content I have, so it would make sense to me to integrate them while keeping my SD TV around for the old consoles.

Most definately. Last thing a person wants on their new HDTV is a HUD burn-in of an old NES or SNES game. heh heh

That's my recurring nightmare...

I didn't know burn-in was a phenomenon that was likely to occur on HDTV. I actually thought it was a characteristic of CRT screens.

It's a long term effect for CRTs. However with LCDs the play time of such stationary things is an hour before having to worry. Or at least this seems to be the common belief.

How far that is from statistical fact I'm sure is something that Megalith would know. However I do not dare to prove the myth right or wrong using my own set. So I stick to the 1 hour rule. Even though I'm usually pretty hard pressed to play any single old-school game for anything more then 40minutes so it's not usually something that I normally have to keep an eye on.

has anyone's ps3 froze? I just got one and it froze like 5 times already, twice when i was trying to update motorstorm, twice on the xmb and once when i was playing the timeshift demo. My ps3 is in a pretty well ventilated place, theres a lot of room for it to breath and it happens any time, not just after long periods of use.

Yeah, I think one other person had their PS3 freeze a couple times on the XMB a couple pages back. I think it has to do with one of the recent updates.

Having played TimeShift myself perhaps your system was just trying to do you a favour ;)

I myself however also had a problem playing motorstorm. What I had to do was go into where the game caches are stored and delete the older version of the game (not your save file). This caused the game to default back to V1.0 and then update from there which worked fine from that point. So give that a shot and see what happens.

is it on game data utility? then i've already tried that, and this is my first time updating motorstorm so i can play online. it's the one that came with hte 80gb ps3, is there a difference between that and the retail version?

LCDs don't suffer from image burn-in, this is only an issue with Plasma screens (and even then its only a major issue with older Plasma screesn). LCDs can develop afterimages or what they call image persistence but the ghosting will disappear if you just shut off the screen for a bit or watch moving images for a while. You pretty much cannot do any permanent damage to a LCD screen with static images unless you leave some image on all the time for days straight to where the liquid crystal will form a memory. But again this takes days, not hours of use to produce. I've only seen this once and this was on an LCD TV we used at our work to display stock information. The boarders used in the stock display finally burned in after a few weeks of being left on continuously displaying that same template.

Even now that's not a serious issue with current plasma technology. I heard it's still possible, but you have to cooperate on destroying a perfectly fine and new HDTV...

Yeah, pixel orbiting (monitors all pixels on the screen and quickly moves static images from one pixel to another) which is used in Plasmas 6th gen and above pretty much removes the possibility of image burn-in from say a broadcast logo or a video game HUD, but there are still issues with uneven wear on Plasma screens if you view a lot of 4:3 content or such with large black bars constantly. This isn't really burn-in but people tend to group it together since its a similar effect. What is really happening is with Plasma displays, black is actually made by removing all voltage from the pixel unlike with LCD so in say a 4:3 picture on plasma the middle area will become dimmer due to natural wear quicker than the black bar areas so you end up with 19:9 screens with uneven brightness levels across the picture.

So it seems that LCD don't suffer from many issues is this correct?

Basically, yes. LCD screens are pretty resiliant to issues like that, they don't have real burn-in like CRTs and Plasmas and they don't have the colorwheel or bulb burnout problems of DLP. They also use a lot less energy and produce less heat than almost all of the alternatives.

Downsides are mainly ghosting with lower quality/higher refresh rate sets and being locked to a single native resolution (so they have to scale everything to the standard resolution instead of being able to change their resolution like CRTs, so some things may appear blurrier on them). Also there's occasionally dead pixels, but that's usually pretty minor.

Uhhh, welcome to my world. I had the same issue with my new Ps3. It froze everywhere. I tried everything to make it work, but nothing happened. I usually got like a "matrix screen" after it froze.

I had to send it back. It had a defective GPU, so there was nothing I could do about it.

The post of my problem is HERE

oh, mine is nothing like that, the image just freezes while audio plays normally, and you can't do anything with the controller, so the only choice is to turn off the system. I'm not sure if it's that big of a problem, but if it happens more often then I think I'd be returning my ps3.

I heard (haven't seen it in action), that 120hz screen do a great step on the right direction... can anyone confirm this?

The only error I ever got so far from my PS3 is when I loaded my game of Assassins Creed is that it suddenly showed me the "Your game cannot be loaded, your disc might be dirty" screen. :o

I got an LCD and a Plasma TV, the Plasma is in the living room and the LCD is in my room which I use for gaming. My plasma tv is a newer model and yes pause it for a really long time or just the logo of the channel and it will fade in. It's not a real problem that you would have to get it fixed or anything, theres an option in the TV menu that fixes the fade in so I dont have a problem with that.

I prefer Plasma over LCD for both movies and gaming since it looks better, but I just use my LCD for my games.

My next TV will definitely be a 1080p plasma. At the end of the day, it's really all about black levels, and plasma sets generally offer the best.

Alternatively, there's LCOS, which is what I own now. Price-to-size ratio, pixel fill, commendable scaling and proper deinterlacing (on my model, anyway) are just some of the benefits. Black level is more than acceptable, but like most current technologies, it's walking the line between crush and greyish blacks.

I wish they would have spent a little more time with flat-screen 16x9 CRTs. With a little better engineering, they probably could have remedied the whole "curved corners" problem (inability of the gun to reach extreme edges) with most sets...especially on Samsungs...but that's probably because Samsung celebrates the usage of junk parts.

As for LCD, I had a particular love for my Sony KDL-V2500 since it allowed me to physically place a center channel speaker in the proper spot (tweeters aligned with L/R monitors), as the LCD was light enough to sit on top of it...but I couldn't imagine watching something like Batman Begins or playing The Darkness with one.

Sony has stopped making Plasma TV's right? I'm thinking of getting a plasma TV maybe next year to play games on. Something arround 36" inches maybe, but now is 1080p even worth the extra money it if it's a 36" TV? I read on another forum that it's only worth getting a 1080p TV if it's a really big TV.

It all deends on the person.

I myself usually can't see any noticable difference between 1080P and 720P until 40" + TVs. I don't discount the fact that it's there, it just doesn't make a big enough difference for me until I get towards sets that are larger then that.

Technically anyone can justify anything, but I most certainly can't justify 1080P on anything less then a 40" TV, because personally it's just a waste of money.

I have a 37" Sharp LCD TV and with the excellent black levels, and 4ms refresh rate there's absolutely nothing that I can complain about. Seriously, I had an HD CRT(native 1080i) before that and the black levels on my LCD look just as good.

Same set, same love (heh, I was wondering what was your set). And I share your opinion, if I ever get a new TV it would probably be a 1080p plasma.... If I ever fix the hyper illuminated room where it is suppose to be, and get the money. But at the time, LCD technology will catch up Plasma on the matter or OLED TVs will be a realistic option. (2015!?)

And Dagobert as far as I remember Sony dropped plasma technology several years ago, they kinda bet everything they had on LCDs and other technologies (Recently they dropped their rear projection line too... it was goooood :(). Now they are starting with OLED technology but this stuff is in diapers. (11'' almost $2k)... Oh and a burn-in image = spoiled set, what you are getting is other stuff.

I guess this is a good place to ask this.

I don't have a high def T.v or any of that yet. So far, I have a small discolored tv that I should replace with a much better one.

So my question, can anyone point me to a Hi-def tv in the 600/900 dollar range that would be best used for video games?

I've just started to play online using my PS3, my username is twistedchemical for those who want to play me online.

Check here: Display Devices - AVS Forum , no better place on the interwebs for this stuff.

So I tried watching some .avi files today, I haven't tried it since the firmware update. So a lot of the videos did not work, which was media connects fault. So I read on gizmondo I think it was that Windows Media Player 11 works better than media connect, which is true and a lot of the files are playable on the PS3.

All my episodes of Chuck play fine, same with Devil May Cry the anime, The Big Bang Theory but for some reason some of the episodes of Black Lagoon wont play. The ones that dont play are also a different resolution than the ones that do play. So I read in the comments of that gizmondo site that if the video's resolution is divisable by 16 or some shit that it will play, and if not then it wont play. I also read that some of the files that do not play will play if it's burned on a cd or DVD. Any one tried burning any video files on a cd that doesn't play when streaming from windows media player, and does it play it or not? I dont have any blank cd's or dvd's at the moment so I can't really test it out to see if it works.

Some files that have Xvid/DivX format will work (sometimes it wont since I just added a supposedly Xvid movie file and it said "Unsupported Data"). I just added Afk's Clannad WS episode 9 for the helluva it without conversion. Looks perfect (fills up the whole screen like some blueray hd version but looks a little fuzzy since it isn't really HD). What I'm hoping for is that they fix the little bugs with divX and have .mkv compatability on the next update. Most fansubbers these days stick with that and ignore mp4 when that works perfect on the ps3. Check Gundam 00 (subbed by Anonymous) for example. They did it under mp4 format for episode 1-2 and I haven't seen anymore =/. At least their's ACD Elite's One Piece to enjoy ;p

When ever I connect my PSP to my PS3 to register it for the remote play thing, turn my ps3 off and my psp, but when I put my computer on my PS3 turns on as well. Does happen any one else or know why it happens? It doesn't happen after that, only when I register the psp with the ps3.

ok, so i returned my ps3 because it froze 3 times on the xmb in 5 minutes after turning it on. I got my new one now and when i tried updating motorstorm, it was going well, I made it to the 50% mark then my ps3 froze. How long does the motorstorm update generally take? My ps3 was downloading the update for about an hour and a half.
After it froze i did the force shutdown thing, and i try out the browser to see if it'll freeze on me like my last ps3 and it does. is freezing a common problem? so far, this new ps3 has only frozen while online. just so you know, my ps3 has plenty of room to breath.

Sounds like you're getting stuck with a bad batch or something. I've had my PS3 since day 1 and it's never acted up as much as the ones you've had. Come to think of it, it's never acted up at all.

I'd take it back to wherever you bought it, and if you can take the credit to another store and get a different one, do that.

Edit: Off-topic by a good bit, but while I was editing my signature I figured I should mention that both Soul Calibur IV and, more importantly, Metal Gaer Solid 4 are available for pre-order at GameStop. SC4's release date escapes me, but MGS4's is June 18th.

espressivo, try turning off the Information Board. I was also getting some lock-ups and going on the advice I found elsewhere, turning that off seems to have resolved my lock-up issues.

i've already done that, i also disabled media server. it's only happened twice so far with this new ps3, and i'm really hoping it doesnt happen again. I'd use a wired connection since it'll probably help speed up the download but my ps3 is waay too far from my router.

Has anybody encountered any jumpy framerates and audio skips with Ninja Gaiden Sigma? I am surprised that I am getting any of this...I'm under the suspicion that it might have something to do with the HD install.

You would be right. I had the same issues but deleting the HDD cache/install and just playing the game from the disc worked fine. I tried to reinstall a few times but it happened *every* time so yeah. The load times aren't that bad anyway, certainly not bad enough to warrant suffering those issues in lieu of them.

Oh shizzle, I have to go to gamestop one of these days. Any word on any bonus material you can get if there is any for those who pre-order it?

Not quite yet. They only put the game up a few days ago, so any pre-order stuff that might come is still being kept secret. So far there's only one SKU available for reservation as well, so no collector's editions just yet.

But I'll let you know.

Surely those are placeholder dates?

Gamestop has SCIV listed for June, but I thought that was slated for Spring '08.

Yes, they are.

Mm, I dunno. Our placeholder dates tend to be dated as something like 06/01. 06/18 is awfully specific, and it does fit the 2nd Quarter time frame. Not to mention that June would be a perfect time to release it; a month before NCAA Football 2009 and two months before Madden '09. June's also a pretty dry month for games, so that'd mean no competition (as if there'd be any regardless) to steal away sales.

It's also a Wednesday, a day that's not the most common release date in the world.

MGS's 1, 2, and 3 all have had late in the year release dates. (Sept/Oct for the first game, November for the second, and Nov/Dec for the third).

Japanese fiscal years also start in April, so Q2 2008 as stated here would push it into the July-September range. Which makes a tad bit more sense.

Even if it's a yankee fiscal year, June seems off, since Q2 ends in March.

If it's talking just a general "second quarter of the calendar year", that date seems like a placeholder as it's just a week and a half before the quarter ends.

So yeah, seems like a placeholder to me.

Pwned.

Wow, it's like you totally ignored the links that he provided as reference to the standard fiscal years used in each country.

Either way, it's not like anyone in their right mind would preorder games that are that far out, so who cares what date Pawnstop has in their computers?

I'm starting to wonder if we need a tag like [clickmeyoufuckingidiot] or something that makes all URLs contained within to be green, size 50 font with blink and bold.

It would, at the very least, help the ever so knowledgeable SouthJag here avoid a bit of embarrassment.

Jesus Christ, no wonder everyone hates GS employees.

Eh, at least make the link colors visible. I should probably change that in my Firefox, huh? Oh well.

@ The Dutchman: Even though your logic is correct based on fiscal dates by region I'm pretty sure that when game companies give QX numbers it's by calendar year, and as I think back on release date information for games in the past I'm fairly sure that's the case. Hell even you had to do research to find fiscal dates which your average joe isn't aware of. Quarters by calendar just makes sense.

To which I have already replied using other criteria that I believe show that it's somewhat fishy. Anyway you look at it, 6/18 seems a tad arbitrary.

I'll eat crow if I'm wrong, how's that, folks?

Get it on camera please.

And wtf I just noticed this: :dovel::dover:

It seems out of place among the other smilies.

I'll make you negroes a deal then, how's this? I promise I'll eat my OWN COOKING if I'm wrong.

It's far deadlier than any diseased crow meat. I can promise that.

I have a few questions about the ps3.
is it normal that it takes a little while to shut down? And I understand that the preinstalled software and whatnot should take quite a bit of space from the harddrive but to call it the 80gb version only to find that you have 64 or so gb free to do as you please with is bullcrap. I know this is normal for computers and the ps3 itself is close to a computer but come on ><!

Still nowhere near as bad as the 360's HDD which is "20" Gigs where in fact you only have access to 12 Gigs. (well worse in lost space the PS3 is, but when you only have 20 to begin with it makes it seem a lot worse)

At least in the end you can always upgrade to any larger cheap brand HDD you choose in the future, so it's not all bad.

And yes, it takes about 10 seconds or so after the light starts blinking to shutdown, so no worries.

It is pretty normal for data storage in general, nothing to do specifically with the PS3 being 'close to a computer'. My 1 GB iPod has about 880 MB of usable space. There is probably a disclaimer like '80 GB = 80 billion bytes; actual formatted capacity less' somewhere.

Wait, wait.

"There's technically less included mandatory software on the Microsoft console, but it's worse for them because the hard drive is smaller!"

What about the 120 option, then? The percentage of space lost to the included content is lesser, then. If you want to do a proper, uhh....comparison of this, compare the 20 gig models of each. I'd be surprised if it wasn't frighteningly similar.

Stop turning your thread into such a big joke, guys. Please?

Edit: Also that whole binary versus decimal measurement thing has been done for bazillions of years at this point, that's not a surprising issue anymore to anyone, is it?

I am considering getting PS3. People keep telling me to get 80GB, what's wrong with 40GB? :confused:

Probably the biggest thing would be the disclusion of backwards capatibility for PS2 games. But if you don't mind that, then go for it.

Ah. 80GB it is than.

I have another question @_@
I plugged in my 80gb usb harddrive into the ps3. It's partitioned into two 40gb halfs but its not detecting the master first half. It only detects the slave second. Why is that o-0?

In the 40GB. You don't get these features;

Cons
- You can't open the Card Slot hatch
- Two USB Ports (you'd need an additional USB adaptor that will feed more controllers and the like)
- You would need a Card Reader USB adaptor to read your SD, Flash or Memory Stick cards

Pros
- Will play PSOne games (stated in Future's PlayStation Magazine)
- Comes with Motorstorm (which's kinda good in a way, though I'm really not into these sports games)

Cons
- Will not play PS2 games

I'd say the 80GB's better

Are both partitioned as FAT32 drives? The Playstation 3 cannot read NTFS drives.

Is there any reason as to why Sony keeps releasing different versions of the PS3 with different sized hard drives? Since the drive is removable, you'd figure that they'd just have one single 20GB version. Although I heard that they were losing tons of money off of that.

Is it just a clever way of ripping people off, since the cost to Sony between a 40GB drive and a 80GB drive is supposedly moot?

I would let that to Cetra (Looks like she/he/it knows this stuff)... but if I had to guess, I would say that they want to confuse the hell out of consumers.

Or maybe to give an easy way to recognize the different versions and -at the same time- "hide" the most relevant differences among them.

Um, let me rephrase that, since you kinda got some stuff wrong.

The 40gb model --

- Does not play PS2 games
- Does not have any card readers
- Comes with Spider-Man 3 on Blu-Ray
- Has two USB ports

The 80gb model --

- Plays PS2 games
- Has SD, Pro Duo and Compact Flash card slots available
- Has 4 USB ports
- Comes with MotorStorm

Both models --

- Play PS1 games
- Have built-in wireless network adapters (wired/wireless connections are user preference)
- Play Blu-Ray discs, obviously. Some people don't know.
- Have a single wireless controller w/charge cable. Again, the more you know~

So there you have it. If you've already got a PS2 then don't spend the extra $100, since that'd be a waste. If you don't, you've two options: go get a used PS2 from somewhere like GameStop for $80 and still save $20, or get the 80gb PS3.

Preferably, if you can still find a 60gb model, buy that one. It's still $500 like the 80gb model, but if you can find one, get that one, since the backwards compatibility is different between the 60gb and the 80gb (hardware vs. software emulation, respectively) models. If you find a 60gb model at GameStop, you can pick your choice of one out of six games to get for free, the newest game being Heavenly Sword. I think that promotion's still running, anyway.

They were losing a bit more money on the 20 Gig model mostly because by having such drastically different systems, one which uses outdated HDDs (40Gigs is the industry standard low) the effort just wasn't worth the payoff. Especially after considering how few of the 20 Gigs were produced, and then a smaller number of them actually sold.

But yeah, at this point the HDD differences are just there to determine the different models more then anything.

Oh yeah, I mean't that the 80GB has Motorstorm and the 40GB comes with Spider-Man 3. So all in all what you get from both versions kimchi. To rephrase it

40GB - $399 <== If you want extra features - this model wouldn't be your style.

Cons
- You cannot open the Card Slot hatch
- You need to purchase an USB Card adaptor (if you want such features)
- Only 2 USB ports
- PS2 Games not playable (you must get them from the PS Network)
- An additional USB adaptor is required to play such games as;

Rock Band
Guitar Hero III
The Eye of Judgement

Pros
- Comes with Spider-Man 3 Blu-Ray
- Wi-fi networking available (same with 80GB)


80GB - $499 <== If you want more out of PS3

Pros
- Comes with Motorstorm Blue-Ray game
- Card Slot hatch can be opened to fit SD, Flash and Memory Stick cards
- 4 USB ports

Cons
- PS2 Games [Limited]

Half right. Future's PlayStation mag states that you can only play some PS2 games as they're limited.

Though Kimchi. Whatever model you pick is up to you.

Hell, I am getting "best" (meaning it has most feature) with extra 100 dollars. I will go with it, and its not like I am paying for this.

What?

Hey guys. Perhaps this is more appropriate news for the media forum, but it seems that Warner has just decided to drop HD-DVD support, and release in DVD and Blu-ray exclusively. This is a huge blow, and will probably decide the outcome of the HDM war.

Just another good reason to own a PS3 and be confident in the investment.

This has been speculated as being a serious possibility over the past few weeks, and I am excited that it has come to be. With rumours circulating that Universal will soon {possibly as soon as CES} announce that it is going to support both formats, hd-dvd will not be able to last much longer.

I was thinking of buying a hard drive for my PS3, but I'm not sure if I should get an external one or those 2.5 inch ones. I have the 60gb model, and I have about 23gb of free space which I guess wont be enough in the future with games like Devil May Cry where you have to install 5gb's of data on your PS3. Any suggestions on which one would be better?

If you get an internal one, make sure it is not a 7200 rpm drive. They run hotter than the 5400 rpm drives, which is what you should be looking to get if you go the internal route.

If there was any doubt about how big this is:

The party for HD DVD is over, literally | Tech news blog - CNET News.com
http://wesleytech.com/ces-hd-dvd-eve...ouncement/483/

The HI Def war is over, now the war against DVD and other consoles begins... this could be an interesting year for Sony.

Assuming that HD-DVD really does tank, I'll be very sad to see it go. The technology was definitely solid, and it would have been interesting to see what it might have evolved into.

Other than seeing shelves of blue cases, I don't really have a problem with Blu-ray taking over DVD's spot, but it really does need a lot of work when it comes with elaborate menu trees and interactivity. I couldn't imagine something like Bourne Supremacy on Blu-ray right now, although I'm sure that the new profile makes it all possible.

The HD-DVD group did make a lot of stupid mistakes though, like pushing combo discs, rarely initiating any kind of sales, thin advertising, etc. I'm just interested to see what Paramount does now, since a lot of money was involved when they agreed to be HD-DVD exclusive.

I'll just repeat some stuff I read earlier, but basically several so-called-experts claim that this is it. (I would put the sauce, but AVS and pretty much any other relevant A/V forum is impossible to check right now)

Anyways, if this is really IT... let's hope blue ray will turn as a fine format and proper match for the DVD. (Because this new war looks very very long)

And in my opinion, both formats had everything to make a fine predecessor, but we all knew/wanted/needed only 1 format.

While I have no idea which HD format is superior, I am kind of glad that this war will soon be over. I can't imagine how multiple formats benefit consumers.

Anyways, I also read that Paramounts HD-DVD exclusive contract ends in 2009, so I wonder what will happen then.

Paramount's contract has an exit clause. There are rumors now that they are going to announce a break-away at CES as well now. This is looking like the end of HD-DVD for sure. Hopefully now HDM can finally focus on gaining market from DVD.

That's really going to suck for all thoes people who invested in HD-DVD though.

I'm pretty sure that if the 360 had an HD-DVD drive in it from launch that the format war would have totally gone in the other direction.

Guess Sony were keeping all the PS3 games locked away until consumers won them the format war. Well we did our part. Now where's Shadow of the Colossus 2?

Shadow of the colossus really felt like a one time game. If the the Ico team does work on a another game it's more possible that there would be an Ico 2 with the kid being a little older but even then I think they would just create a completely new game that would tie in the story between ico and shadow of the colossus.
Whatever they decided to do I know it'll be must-have.

And blue ray now controlling 70% of the market really does seem like a defeat for the hd-dvd player owners the only good part about this is if the hd-dvd really does throw in the tower, we'll be seeing plenty of promotions so that they can get rid of all the extra players and dvd's that they have but then after that whats left? :/

Ooh, I didnt know that Uncharted: Drakes Fortune demo has vibration support :o Nice!



Wait, I just got folklore and it has vibration support too :o I wonder when Tekken Dark Resurrection will have vibration support? And Assassins Creed :o

Just what I said. You technically can't play PS2 games directly (only PSOne games). You have to download them from the PS Network Store. Like what you do with the Virtual Console games on the Wii Shop Channel.

80GB though, however, suggests that only some PS2 games you can play directly. As it's still limited.

you clearly don't know what you're talking about zeta >.> because there's NO ps2 game in the ps store. the games that are in the ps store are either ps1 games that you can play on psp and ps3 or arcade games, like the xbox live arcades... beside that you must have a 60gb or 80gb version to play ps2 games on ps3.

I think what zeta is trying to say is that it only plays the PS1 games that are downloaded from the PS store. I'm not sure if thats true or not, I just think the 40gb version is stupid.

Does Sony even work on getting more PS2 games compatible with the 80GB model or are they just bullshitting and just made released an update once thats it? Doesn't matter to me, I got the 60gb but I'm just wondering since the 60gb models aren't being made and who knows if I ever need buy an 80gb model.

I also bought a blu-ray movie today, and it's the first time I was watching a blu-ray movie. Damn the quality is great, but damn the price.

I think we're all safe with the 60gb model :o


Hmmm.... I've been thinking.... I would like for Sony to add the option to show the date and time (or just the time itself) when we go to the PS Menu anytime. Just like the screen we get when we push the Home button on the PSP. We get a date and time... And maybe even have a clock fixed in the main XMB menu...

Just my two cents...

First of all, this zeta guy is pretty stupid and/or misinformed, and yet he continues talking. No one should listen to him until he proves that he can consistently make accurate statements.

Secondly, the 40 gig PS3 can play any PSX games, whether they are on disc or downloaded from the store. The 40 gig PS3 has the necessary hardware to make that happen.

Third, according to the several members here who have the 80 gig models, the software backwards compatibility is pretty solid, with a very large percentage of games supported, so if you simply cannot locate a 60 gig, it wouldn't be the end of the world to get an 80 gig. Again, according to the several members here with that model.

Hey, I only followed what's been said in the official PlayStation magazine and in the official PlayStation site. And what I said is true, just look up wikipedia.

Where on the official PlayStation site or Wikipedia does it say that you can download PS2 games? Quote or give links.

K, to give you the gist;

here's a list that Wikipedia compiled

History of PS3 models

20GB
- Yes

40GB
- No

60GB
- Yes

80GB
- Yes (Software Emulation, which Future's PlayStation magazine calls it "Limited")

I could have sworn that I was playing TR: Anniversary on my 20GB the other day.

I'm not sure what you're trying to get at, but here's the facts.

-40Gb PS3 has no PS2 software emulation. So whether you could download PS2 games or not (which you can't as of now) there is no emulation software on the system to run them at this time.

-80Gb PS3 has NO hardware emulation and only has 100% software emulation. Therefore no Emotion Engine, no nothing and can still play 95% of PS2 games.

-60/20Gb PS3s HAVE PS2 hardware within and can play 98+% of PS2 games.

Well, I heard a while back that you could download PS2 games (emulated) off of the PSN network.

Dude. Why won't you listen to us? This is the last time I am saying this.

I have had my PS3 since day 1 and as of this date there are still no PS2 games on the PSN that you can download and play. And I'm including ALL region's PSNs. There are no such things.

I know that Sony have said in the past that they'd like to make PS2 games downloadable via PSN. But considering all the work ahead of them with HOME. No such developments on downloadable PS2 games will likely be made within the next year.

Zeta26, I'm sorry to have to say this, but you are a fucking retard.

There is no way to download a Playstation 2 game onto a PS3 to play. If you have the 20GB, 60GB or 80GB models, you can insert a Playstation 2 format disc and play, but you cannot download any PS2 game onto a PS3.

Now please, for the love of God, stop posting about it.

Anyways. I was think of this question too, like what Kimichi had, seeing as I got $200 (bonus) and another $100 (December's check). As I'm just about close to getting a 40GB, but yet am $200 away from the 80GB.

Then just wait another month or two and get the 80gb version.

I know that it's a loosely based reason to post this here. However unless someone wants to create an "HD-DVD VS Blu-Ray" thread I'm posting this here. (yes, I'm that lazy)

Anyhow just thought I'd post this here as an interesting development on the Blu-Ray front more then anything.

However I feel that now that the power has been shifted influentually in one competator's direction that the market will support that said format out of sheer want for a single standard, and not so much for actual format superiority. (fortunately the winning format is the better one in my opinion)

Read the quote again. Then actually understand the quote. Then you will see why the quote is most likely not a typo. By your logic, you are saying that the Warner decision would have little effect over the format war. Clearly that makes no sense at all. But on the supposed console war between PS3 and 360, it would seemingly have little impact.

But anyways, there was a blu-ray vs. hd-dvd thread in media centre but the topic creator was an hd-dvd fanboy to the extreme and ended up closing the thread when a few people expressed support for blu-ray.

God damn it. Ah well thanks for pointing that out. It makes more sense now. I understood what it was saying, I just thought they said it wrong.

8 hours of class and 5 hours at work can start to get to you after a while.

Back when I was running a shitty forum (cause the owner was a tranny and was nutting over the Wii which he still doesn not own), there were loads of people saying blu-ray would fail as soon as it would come out and dragging the PS3 along with it. I seriously wish that forum was still up so I could post all these articles about the PS3 doing better than HD-DVD.

They should bring the Skype feature to the PS3 like they did with the PSP. I would actually like them to include AIM on the PS3.

I hardly see that stuff NOT coming for the ps3 sometime in the future... on the other side I would kill for a decent mail client (POP3 or whatever) integrated on the PS3.

Whats the attachment file size limit when sending a message in the PS3? I tried sending a picture but it was too big to send. It'd be nice if you could attach videos or multiple images as well.

Also, I put up an add on craigslist to trade or sell my copy of assassins creed, some one wants to trade their copy of Unreal Tournament for the PS3 for my assassins creed and another person wants to offer 45$ for it. Is Unreal Tournament any good?

Edit: I got Unreal Tournament 3 and wow, the single player sucks. Online is kinda fun but I know it will get boring after a while. So I'm gonna have to trade this one as well, I dont know what to trade this one for. Warhawk seems better but I dont really know, I'm looking more for a single player game thats gonna last a while.

Cooooool my mom got me a 60 GB PS3..didn't think she would ever find one at this point. She said she got it from Sam's Club online bundled with Motor Storm and I thought "oh AWESOME" until I went and checked her account status and saw that she paid damn near $600 for it. :gonk:

Now I feel guilty because the whole point of not getting one before was the price. Blargggh well I am still happy, though. I'm going to be cleaning the house and feeding the dogs for a long time to make up for it. I like to think it's worth it, though. Once I find a place to set it up I need to think about some games I want to get, one of them being Uncharted.

I think I'm mostly just worried about TV issues..or future TV issues. I don't have HDTV and feel like I'm going to have a rough time picking out the best TV to use with all my systems.

TV shopping isn't all that hard. From my experiance the quality is split up by price ranges. In other words all $800 HDTV are about the same quality (which is better then crap but not great). While $1200 is quality mid-range HD. And your $2000+ is your high quality sets with all the bells and whistles (and where it's the easiest to get ripped off).

I'm sure that someone like Megalith would have a whole nother take on it, but I'm not a videophile/TV tech expert like him.

Also unless you going to be getting a 40" + set, 1080P isn't really a big deal. But more details on this stuff can be given to you when you get to shopping for a new set. Till then enjoy your new game box ^^

BULLITIN
We PS3 owners need to make the desire for a PSN tag spot in our profiles known to the moderators. Seriously, the Wii got this feature long before which is pratically useless since you need a new code per an individual game.

I have to disagree, it's a ROYAL PAIN IN THE ASS. However, it could be easy if money isn't a problem (60+ 1080p Plasmas)

I'm looking for a smaller TV, one around the same size as what I have now. So I think I'm looking for a 26" or so. Bigger wouldn't fit in my media center to begin with. After that I guess is just getting the best one of those that I can for all my systems without having it be entirely too expensive. My head is already hurting just thinking about this >.<

It looks like HD_DVD has seriously lost now. Universal has just announced that they're no longer remaining HD-DVD exclusive. I'll let the story do the talking...

So no HD-DVD hasn't lost any studious, however Blu-Ray has many studio exclusives such as Disney and Sony studios on top of pratically 100% movie studio access.

What do you guys think? Game over, or can HD-DVD still come back?

@kupomog
Awesome new avatar. I love KoF, nice to see another supporter. Kof XI RULES!!!!!

No, none of that HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray vs BETAMAX rubbish in here please. They have nothing to do with video games. :cmb: There's a bunch of threads over in the Media Centre.

Meh, meh meh meh.

@kupomog: I don't know about good models at that size, but 1 thing is certain: 1080p is pretty much useless on "small" screens (Don't bother with it... and I'm not even sure if there is that option for those sets)

Edit: Meh meh meh,

I believe that HD resolution is important at any practical size (20" >). If you were to get a small screen, I'd assume that you would be sitting close enough to notice the difference between 720 and 1080 res. But this is just a purist's opinion.

And TV shopping will definitely drive you up a wall. I had to return my old Sony a couple of times since I was on an OCD trip and couldn't accept dead pixels. My best advice is to go to the store and hook some of your personal content up and see if you like how it looks. If you try to do too much research online, you'll never buy anything, because everything, and I mean everything, has some kind of problem.

So much truth in those words.

However, I still consider that 1080 at that size is not really "useful", BUT if he intends to use it as a pc monitor (distance and stuff), well... everything changes.

For anyone who has Super Stardust: As soon as your start your game, it's going to ask you to upgrade to a newer version with new updates and features INCLUDING customizing your own music (pretty much streamed not setting your own stage music). All the excitement had me going further into the game and still in second place while Chaoslegionaire is still on top (friend list only). There are also some options where it involves online stuff that has nothing in there...yet. Now I can say its worth having ;p.

I tried the demo this week and I fail so miserably at this game that I decided that it would be a waste of money XD I can't even finish the first lv lol there's so much thing going on on screen that I don't know where to shot or look XD

You just gotta know the timing when those meterites start to come. It's always a good thing to dash (L2) away from them. Make sure you use the proper weapon to elimate a certain kind. Other than that, the monster's are just ridiculous in lv 4. I hope we get more stages in the near future.

Well they added the downloadable content section to the game during the last update. So I wouldn't be too surprised if new planets were coming sooner or later.

Still can't believe how fast this patch came out. The game must be doing pretty well.

Thanks for the TV tips guys. My dad is getting himself a Sony Bravia XBR, I think. It's a 32" with stuff like Motion Flow and 24p. I asked him if I could get the same thing but the cheaper version (it's basically 400 bucks less minus two features above and 3 HDMI ports down to 2), he said no, wait until 2010 *sneer* Ah well. If anything I'll be looking for a 26" or a 32" LCD in the future. By then I might even be able to find something better.. My mom did compensate by buying me Uncharted, however, so w00t!

Thanks! :D
My boyfriend only just got me into the series back in Sept. (started with 2002) and I've been building my KOF collection. Got PS2 releases/compilations of 2000-XI since then. It's my fave fighting series now with Guilty Gear and Tekken following (Id like to say SF but uh...never played any of them except II and vs. Marvel). That's prolly a story for another thread tho~

In the long-term, won't all PS3 titles be 1080p, so if someone buys a 720p set won't they always be scaling? Is there any guarantee that software makers will always have a native resolution setting for 720p? If not, it seems that sets would have to do the scaling, or the PS3 itself, and I would rather bet on spending a few extra $$ (now that some 1080p sets are cheap) than having scaling issues. Specifically with the PS3, will this be an issue in the future, will it basically live up to its 1080p promise and leave 720p support behind? I definitely don't want to spend $800 on a TV that will be obsolete in a year...

Most games are only in 720P and 480i these days. As things are right now, your 1080P set will not be used to it's maximum potential too often. Mostly only the "big" titles will continue having 1080P support. And as games require more assets in order t run the game itself I feel that less games will support 1080P in the future rather then more.

However by the time the next-gen of systems come around. I'm sure that at least the "PS4" will be 1080P native.

720p sets are always scaling, because in reality, they are 768p. I remember Samsung had a set that did in fact have a native vertical resolution of 720p, but I doubt they sell it anymore. I personally hate 720p, for reasons such as as these. It has always felt like a stopgap resolution. But I do understand its benefits when it comes to game development.

At this point in time, there is no reason not to get a 1080p display. I haven't checked the prices lately, but I'd imagine that they aren't much more expensive than 720p sets. The fact is that 1080i/p is a definitive standard. HD broadcasts are mainly in 1080i, and HDM is 1080p. In terms of gaming, you can bet that more and more games will be rendered in 1080, which has already become common for stuff released on PSN. And when the next generation of consoles comes around, I can practically guarantee that the GUI, at least, will be 1080 native.

I agree with you that by next generation that 1080P will most likely become a native standard. But with things right now, it'll be harder to make games support 1080P when they're trying to use the console's resources to simply make the games look and run well.

Like I said. High profile games and console exclusives will mostly be in 1080P. But the majority of 3rd party games I don't think will be in it as near as much.

However this is just what I've gathered based off developer interviews. Anything's possible though. As for myself I've got no quarrels with my 720P set. ^^

Thanks for the opinions; interesting about 768p vs. 720p I hadn't thought of that before. I just read an interview with Naughty Dog in one of the mags and they said that since 720p allows developers to do twice as many things (graphically) twice as fast that generally most games will be 720p except games that aren't as graphically intensive. Newegg has that JVC lcd that was mentioned in another thread for >$1000 for 37" so I guess it really doesn't make sense to go 720p at this point unless you're shopping for Vizio-style bargains or something...

If you are planning on using the TV mostly for gaming a 720p HDTV which accepts 1080p input is the best way to go right now. You'll be able to feed it 1080p signals and have content downscale to 768p rather than always feed it 720p signals and having it upscale. And 720p upscaled to 1080p native doesn't look at that great and 1080i doesn't seem to be much of an option for the PS3.

Lost Planet Online Demo back to download. Anybody wanna "brawl " it out ? =]

As usual , PSN : NighttimeVulture.

EDIT : Looks like Chaoslegionaire is on >=].

Chaos, I saw you but i got kicked off =/. I set up a new one but you weren't in it. I did get the first win!.

I didn't know it was back up. Let me download it again and then I'll try to join you.

Yo' ass iz 4 kills overdue. And its mine! At least I got the blue posts >=]

That first game must have been a fluke, because I totally got my ass kicked in that second game.

Getting killed in less than a second is only because we have Lost Plane-teers who love to memorize the whole map and find those "glitch detections". No worries. At least it's fun in Online Mode.

Yeah, it was pretty fun overall, especially during the smaller games. You'd think one-on-one would be pretty bad on a map of that size, but it was more fun than the team games we played (to me, anyway).

Apparently in game XMB access is rumored to be Sony's big announcement next week at GDC. Should be interesting to see what comes of that.

That's what I was suspecting too when they pulled their last site update. Obviously that kind on site update isn't created if it isn't true. That just wasn't the time that they wanted to post the feature.

Last GDC they showed LBP and HOME for the first time. This year we get in-game XMB. Makes sense to me.

EDIT: Notice how long it's been since the last firmware update? They've obviously been working on something big. ^^ Can't wait man.

Is there an official Sony adapter for PS2 memory cards? I know there are third party adapters, but I'm not about to trust those with the save data I've collected over more than six years of PS2 ownership.

If there is, can anyone give me a retailer link, preferably one that will ship to the U.K. if possible? Also, can you tell me if it's possible to transfer my PS1 save data as well?

Here is the product you are looking for:

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=802581

While it says that USB cable is not included, you can just use the cable used to charge your ps3 controller instead. It will work. I doubt Pawnstop will ship to the UK, but at any rate, you know what to look for now.

There is an official PS2 Memory card adaptor, though I don't know why it doesn't seem to be available in Europe. I checked on the Asia Playstation website and it's right there on the accessories list:

PS2 Memory Card adaptor for the PS3

Since it's available still in Hong Kong, maybe sites likes Play-Asia would be suitable for you.....but they're pretty fucking expensive:

PS2 Memory Card adaptor on Play-Asia

Wow, HK$98.00 compared HK$155.20?! Bloody rip-off!!


:tpg:

I don't quite understand why your data would be at risk, given the adaptor is just a means of transfering the saves, not storing them. I bought a third party adaptor for £5 off the HMV site and it did the job fine.

I appreciate the information. I dare say there's some way or another to get one shipped over here. I was almost certain the official Sony adapter was available. Thanks for the confirmation.

Thanks for the information, I know what to look for now. I'll find a source for this product one way or another. Where there's a will, there's a way and all of that.

Normally that would be the case. However, since the Lik-Sang debacle, Play-Asia won't ship anything by Sony to Europe. I guess that's fine, I can still order any other product from them. Sony really do hate Europe. :tpg:

Amazon reviewers have stated that their cards became corrupt after using the device. I don't understand it either, but it's not worth the risk, even though I have several memory cards.

Sony discontinuing PS3 80GB model? Source: [H]ard Forum:
Sony Discontinuing 80GB PS3? - [H]ard|Forum

Doesn't necessarily mean they're discontinuing the manufacturing of it, it could just be that Best Buy is dropping that model from their line-up, but that seems odd to me that they would do that if Sony is continuing to manufacture it. Maybe this is old news to some but I didn't see it mentioned on the last few pages of this thread.

More than likely they are going to move to a 45nm Cell for the 80GB or whatever model replaces it. Rumor is its going to be bumped to 120GB which is possible since the cost to Sony is completely dependent on the hdd market. They may be able to get 120gb drives cheaper than 80gb drives these days.

For those worried that Home is just going to be a Second Life clone, here's a taste of its uses:

How Resistance: Fall of Man Makes Home Really, Really Cool

How Uncharted: Drake's Fortune Makes Home Really, Really Cool

Playstation 3: How Warhawk Makes Home Really, Really Cool


I actually know someone who is working on a Home Space project and got a bit in info for him. The coolest thing is how Home integrates with other games. It has various asset hooks so developers can port their game models directly into a Home Space. So for example, Square could potentially make an addon that allows for a fully rendered Lightning to greet you in your own Home Space. 3rd parties could also use this to hype up games by holding public events within Home using various characters from the upcoming game. Think Kratos showing up in a public square and holding a fist fight match with Home avatars a few days before GoW3 is released.

I'm really diggin' the whole 'pre-game war room' idea for Warhawk. It sounds exactly like what Insomniac plans on doing with Resistance 2, having a mini lobby with your teammates before each match. The whole warboard with little soldier/vehicle avatars that you can place on the map sounds pretty fun, although it's likely that most people won't take it very seriously.

Communication and strategizing makes those types of games about 10 times more fun than they already are.

I didn't really care much for Home but after hearing what they can do with those things, I can't wait to try it out. The strategy room idea is awesome, it brings a whole new level of depth into the game and also sounds very sci-fi. Now I relly need to get warhawk.
I just hope adverts don't go crazy in there.

From MTV's Multiplayer Blog:

YouTube Video

Cool. I like how it starts picking up random people in the background who are just walking by.

If they could put this as in as an optional alternative for the cover system in Killzone 2, that would be pretty cool (for about 3 games, but whatever).

If Sony wants to compete with Ninendo they're going to have to come up with ways to make control schemes easier. This feature would make peaking out of cover a LOT easier then stretching to hit L or R on the D-pad or something.

Also the enhanced 3D effect overall would actually be quite stunning in my opinion. Motion controls are cool, but it's been done by the PowerGlove and many others before even that.

Sony compete with Nintendo on what level? The last thing we need is two consoles being used to peddle half-arsed collections of mini-games to people. I don't know what's so complex about the control schemes currently being used, what makes them difficult is when people try to crowbar too much in (the random use of Sixaxis controls being an example of that).

That's it, enough fanboy garbage from you, Slayer. Thread banned.

I saw that face tracking thing a while ago, looks interesting.
There was also a japanese newscast of the eyetoy and being able to put all sorts of crap in your face . And I also remember there being some sorta futuristic spy game in early stages of the ps3 in which the pseye would transfer your image as a hologram into the game but that has yet to be seen in a full game :/

Awesome news for the few of us that will actually care. Sony announced they added iXMF support to the PS3 SDK. This is pretty much the awesomeness of awesome for game sound and music development right now.

Here's a good article on what iXMF is:
Gamasutra - Introducing the Interactive XMF Audio File Format

just checked out the playstation store new downloads. Usual rock band and guitar hero tracks then theres a game called rocketman, which was a very poor excuse of a shooter I'd say. Not only that but the scenes were very laughable with no real attempt at any sort of movement or animation.
BUT, if you log into a japanese account and go into the playstation store there is a very nice game with a cool concept. It looks like a very fancy flash game and the music is just calming and very awesome. It's a game that focuses on the different demensions of the area such as "If you can't see it, it doesn't exist" "It exist but you just can't see it" and the drops and jumps also rely on the perspective on the screen. It may have japanese text but the dialog is in english and learning curb is easy. If you like puzzle games you find it interesting. Sorta reminds me of the Xenosaga 3 minigame, except its actually good.

That would be the demo for Echochrome. I imagine a thread exists for that game on this very forum (about to go to sleep so can't be arsed to search).

So I've been playing Ar Tonelico on my PS3 for a few days now. I've been backing up my save data due to the corrupt data reports and sure enough I ran into the problem. I've also figured out the cause.

For the few games that have this issue, do not bring up the PS3 system menu while the game is reading the system data from the card at the start. This is what is causing the data corruption since bringing up the menu has basically the same effect as removing the card during the read. I was able to recreate the data corruption almost every time by doing this. I also got a few other games to exhibit the same problem so I guess good practice would be to not bring up the system menu until after any card data read/writes are complete.

This is an important consideration for those planning on getting Mana Khemia at the end of the month as the Japanese version has been reported to suffer the same issue as AT did. It might not be fixed for the US release.

Sometimes a game has this problem, but you can reload the game and it's fixed also. It's weird. (Odin Sphere was like this)

I wanted to play Ar Tonelico but I gave away my PS2, so if you keep playing and don't encounter the problem again you should update about it or PM me or something so I know I can get through the game without it being incredibly frustrating. :(

so update 2.20 was just release a while ago.
Ability to transfer playlist of music and photos to the psp is now available. Also being able to listen to ps3 music thru the psp or something like that.
Theres also BD-live and "resume play" feature for blueray and dvd's even if the disc is ejected.
divx files over 2gb are now supported as well and divx subtitles are now usable. Although i'm not sure if it means .str files becuase i was unable to make any of them work, but a few unsopported divx movies are now viewable. Now sure what else there is, it seems as tho i won't make much use from this update ~_~

anyways i have a question of reccomendation. I am goin to preorder gta4 and mgs4 but i would like to buy a game that is currently available and i was looking into getting some online action. So question is, warhawk or call of duty 4? or maybe another popular online game which i am unaware about. cod4 seems more popular but warhawk has a bundle with a bluetooth headset which i would need.

Well its more of a case of what genre would you prefer: FPS or Aerial Shooter? I mean I'd recommend COD4 as I've never played Warhawk and given that you're preordering MGS4 and GTA4 it may be more to your liking. Either way I doubt you can go wrong with either choice.

There are, y'know, places like Blockbuster and so forth that rent games to people when they can't decide on what to purchase for themselves. Comparing these two titles is an apples and oranges affair. Neither game is a sandboxer or a stealth action title, and by listing two EXTREMELY POPULAR franchises you plan on buying into, you're not giving us a good enough idea of what you actually like.

Warhawk isn't an aerial shooter per say, it can be easier (and far more generically) classified as a multiplayer third person action game, since there's just as large a ground focus as there is on the air game. (With the exception of the Ruined Capitol map, but still.) It feels more like a simplified and faster paced Battlefield than anything else, if you want an easy comparison to something you've probably played.

COD is really THE multiplayer experience of the moment, but be prepared for the annoyances that come with it being an extremely popular title and how the kill cam goes to show just how many people use the reload glitch.

The BD-Live stuff is nice and all, but what does a guy have to do to get screencap functionality on his triple? I can't be the only one who has been wanting that feature since day one.

I won't lie, it's my most wanted feature.

omg believe it or not, I have been so sure of what I wanted for such a long time (plus burning games) that i completely forgotten about "rental"....seriously.
I guess I sorta did give prefrences to what I wanted but I didn't mean to do that. I just said I was going to preorder those games becuase I wanted to say it since all I have right now is motorstorm and heavenly sword.
Truth is, I'd be okay with getting either warhawk or cod4 but I wanted to get an individual opinion for both games to help me make up my mind.

Well ok, I have both Warhawk and CoD4, so will see if I can break it down for you. If you want an online only game with huge maps and teams so big that you won't actually feel like part of a team, and therefore won't really give a shit if you or your team is successful, go for Warhawk. If you want something that has smaller teams, smaller maps, making for a more intimate affair, an affair where you will actually care about the outcome, get CoD4. However, if you tend to get really into the competition, to an unhealthy degree, stay away from CoD4, as all of the glitching and bullshit that runs rampant on that game's multiplayer can become very frustrating.

thnx for the info. I am actually more interested in cod4 but the headset bundle in warhawk is tempting. I may just get a cheap oone later in the future.
Anyhow, I just remembered the "save target" feature in the new update. When you download a direct file for the ps3 it will start streaming instead of downloading directly into the harddrive which i find pretty cool because at the moment my ps3 is my pc ~_~
If you still decide to save something you have to go into File > Save target .
I still would have liked the latest flash player for the browser but this is a nice solution for a few files for now.