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GhaleonQ Jul 31, 2007 03:16 PM

Murdoch's finally convinced enough Bancrofts to sell.
 
http://online.wsj.com/public/us

...Aaaaaand there goes the country's best newspaper. So, after the online-minded redesign and Murdoch's likely tampering with the company, where are conservatives supposed to get their news? Can anyone help me?

Bradylama Jul 31, 2007 04:42 PM

I'd suggest becoming a libertarian.

Arainach Jul 31, 2007 09:08 PM

Because that would help with finding news how?

Bradylama Jul 31, 2007 09:25 PM

Well if he defines his news by his political identity, Reason is as good as any.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 31, 2007 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhaleonQ (Post 481958)

...Aaaaaand there goes the country's best newspaper. So, after the online-minded redesign and Murdoch's likely tampering with the company, where are conservatives supposed to get their news? Can anyone help me?



Dullenplain Jul 31, 2007 10:20 PM

Diversify your sources. Find several reputable publications, such as the Economist, National Review, Reason (as already mentioned), and so forth . . . and maybe throw in several blogs while you're at it, to get some more individually flavored punditry.

Bradylama Jul 31, 2007 10:21 PM

In all seriousness, Andrew Sullivan is pretty cool beans.

GhaleonQ Aug 1, 2007 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash Landon (Post 482175)

Psh. I've worked for those guys. I'll pass.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dullenplain (Post 482186)
Diversify your sources. Find several reputable publications, such as the Economist, National Review, Reason (as already mentioned), and so forth . . . and maybe throw in several blogs while you're at it, to get some more individually flavored punditry.

Oh, I subscribe to the 1st 2 (though I'm not a fan of weblogs). I'm talking about substantial, daily news sources, though, especially physical copies.

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Originally Posted by Bradylama (Post 482187)
In all seriousness, Andrew Sullivan is pretty cool beans.

See the 2nd sentence above. I mean, I have the Telegraph and Yomiuri Shimbun (and so on) in other countries, but I'm not going to get good stuff from the New York Times or Washington Post. All other sources concentrate too much on regional happenings, I think.

The unmovable stubborn Aug 1, 2007 06:21 PM

I'm just a dumb liberal hippie, here, so can anyone explain to me how Rupert Murdoch can possibly make a newspaper less conservative-minded?

Everything the man touches goes absolutely paleolithic.

Radez Aug 1, 2007 06:56 PM

It sounds to me like he was complaining he can't get a paper copy after Murdoch moves it online. Perhaps he is more conservative than this Murdoch fellow.

Personally, I'm beginning to feel that text on paper is a fossil.

The unmovable stubborn Aug 1, 2007 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Avalokiteshvara (Post 482629)
Personally, I'm beginning to feel that text on paper is a fossil.

You, uh, you're only talking about newspapers, right? Because ebooks are crap for actual reading (if valuable for textsearches).

Radez Aug 1, 2007 07:18 PM

How are ebooks shit for reading? Everyone says this, but no one gives reasons. I find them preferable.

The unmovable stubborn Aug 1, 2007 07:25 PM

Reaction time is a factor in this, so please pay attention. Now, answer as quickly as you can.

It’s your birthday. Someone gives you a calfskin wallet. How do you react?

Bradylama Aug 1, 2007 07:41 PM

Can't read an e-book lying down, baby.

GhaleonQ Aug 1, 2007 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 482618)
I'm just a dumb liberal hippie, here, so can anyone explain to me how Rupert Murdoch can possibly make a newspaper less conservative-minded?

Everything the man touches goes absolutely paleolithic.

I wasn't actually implying that, though others have suggested that he make it more centrist and luxury-minded to grab some of the New 'york Times' marketshare.

I meant that he'll tamper with the brilliant reporting, too, ruining the best conservative-minded (or, as I'd argue, absolute best) newpaper in the nation. Many don't want to waste the subscription and premium content costs on agenda-driven advocacy journalism.

The unmovable stubborn Aug 1, 2007 10:58 PM

Yeah, we wouldn't want the WSJ to have an agenda

Wait, didn't you just call it "conservative-minded"

Do you know what agenda means

Guru Aug 2, 2007 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Avalokiteshvara (Post 482629)
Personally, I'm beginning to feel that text on paper is a fossil.

Agree. Let's stop killing trees, please.

Musharraf Aug 2, 2007 02:39 AM

Wow I like how this deal will totally fuck up US freedom of press

Night Phoenix Aug 2, 2007 07:23 AM

How will it 'totally fuck up US freedom of the press'?

Rupert Murdoch and News Corp aren't the U.S. gov't.

RABicle Aug 2, 2007 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 482755)
Yeah, we wouldn't want the WSJ to have an agenda

Wait, didn't you just call it "conservative-minded"

Do you know what agenda means

An angenda is something you disagree with of course!

I'm not sure what's scarier, the existance of overtly biased, mainstream newspapers or the existance of people who insist on reading them.

Bradylama Aug 2, 2007 08:39 AM

It's not as bad as it sounds, really. Conservative leaning papers are going to run stories that will interest conservatives, and their op/eds will also take conservative slants from the perspective of the editors.

The problem is when fake journalism is traipsed around like A Weekend at Bernie's in order to push the political agendas of the controlling interest. See also: Fox News.

Arainach Aug 2, 2007 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Night Phoenix (Post 482978)
How will it 'totally fuck up US freedom of the press'?

Rupert Murdoch and News Corp aren't the U.S. gov't.

Because the increasing consolidation of US Media Sources into one or two companies allows a small select group of people to control national press coverage?

RABicle Aug 2, 2007 09:10 AM

Where I come from, there is only ONE daily newspaper. You guys whould just be grateful.

Arainach Aug 2, 2007 12:27 PM

That's the case in a lot of America as well. Only incredibly large cities can support multiple newspapers.

Bradylama Aug 2, 2007 12:48 PM

Big City papers around here distribute regionally. My town, for instance, can get the Tulsa World daily in addition to our shitty ass local paper.

RainMan Aug 2, 2007 04:08 PM

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Because the increasing consolidation of US Media Sources into one or two companies allows a small select group of people to control national press coverage?
My thoughts exactly.

My pops swears by the paper as it comes on the doorstep every morning, but I swear by the internet. Its easier to choose where I am getting information from, though that hardly makes any news 'spinless'. As long as there is a story that requires funding to print, there is an agenda behind it.

Night Phoenix Aug 2, 2007 11:04 PM

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Because the increasing consolidation of US Media Sources into one or two companies allows a small select group of people to control national press coverage?
That has nothing to do with the Freedom of the Press. I mean, it does, but when I hear someone invoking Freedom of the Press, I think government infringement, which is all I really give a damn about.

What private corporations do, as long as it doesn't adversely affect me or others, I could really give a shit about. If Murdoch has the money and the willingness to buy and others have the willingness to sell, what's the fucking problem?


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