Indiana Jones 4 - May 22, 2008
 

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I like how she hasn't aged.

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Shia looks like a faggot, as usual.

No Sallah = utter faggotry. Seriously Spielberg, what the fuck.

^Agreed.

I guess Marcus won't be coming back either(?)
Anyway, one of my more anticipated movies for the next year or so. I'm glad Spielberg and Lucas could find a script they agreed on.

Unfortunately, Denholm Elliott has been dead for 15 years.

EDIT: Though now that I think about it, there's a photo of one of the locales with a shop called Brody's something. Maybe Brody's Antiques? I can't remember, it's around though.

EDIT2: Ah, here we are:

Ah, that's a real shame, then. I had no idea.
While we're on the topic of lost characters, did any of the Indiana Jones EU ever explain what happened to Shortround? I know Temple of Doom was supposed to take place before Raiders, so I wondered where he went off to.

That doesn't really stop them from computer-animating him, does it?

At any rate, this is going to be awesome, I guess, but only if Spielberg doesn't fuck up again like he's recently done with War of the Worlds http://www.gamingforce.org/forums/im...ons/icon13.gif

The offical title was annouced today.. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

What do you think?

Hm, I'm curious to what it's about now. I was hoping it would be centered around Atlantis (well I guess it could still be, considering the plot hasn't been announced yet).

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When was the first trailer supposed to come out? Thanksgiving?

Ahaha, crystall skulls are an excellent topic.

A little bit of digging reveals that the Japanese Indiana Jones-themed ride in DisneySea has to do with the search for the fountain of youth which is guarded by a temple that also houses a crystal skull.

You guys don't think they'll try to stretch the ride's plot for all it's worth, do you?

I guess they're thinking if it worked for Pirates, it would work with Indiana Jones.

Isn't Harrison Ford like 80+ years old?

No. He's 65, but he doesn't look a shade over 50. I can't believe he's in such good shape.

Additionally, its really awesome to see that Karen Allen is making a comeback. Brilliant move there. I love when supporting characters make sequential appearances. It will be really funny to see how how Ford and Allen act towards each other. I imagine after filming the lost ark, they forgot what chemistry they had and had to find it all over again.

I am freaking excited for this movie.

Hopefully he fell into a deep hole and never came up...

Anyways, that title. Sounds promising, but it doesn't exactly roll of the tongue, does it?

Hm, the title seems kinda bulky to me. TEMPLE OF DOOM. Check. LAST CRUSADE. Check. RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK. Check even that. But "...and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull"...somehow I think, even "...and the Crystal Skull" alone would sound better. But what the hell, it's still not a Motoi Sakuraba track title, so what am I complaining.

Anyway, for a film music enthusiast like me, a new Indy movie also means a new Indy score by John Williams. Call me excited.

heh.. someone stole computers and photos from this movie.

Computers, Photos Stolen for New Indiana Jones - ComingSoon.net

Even though the title's been out for a while, I still like to pick it apart a bit. In response to Top Dollar, I think the inclusion of "Kingdom" could be there for a reason, and perhaps may suggest that they will be in the kingdom sooner in the film (more how they got to the Temple of Doom soon, versus the time it took to get to the Canyon of the Crescent Moon in Last Crusade).

That in mind, I don't think this throws out Atlantis at all, and in fact, could be a very thrilling conclusion to the series, even if it's years after the first 3.

Could a mod edit the thread title to include the full title? <3

I wonder if its gonna delay the movie now, hopefully they had backups :)

Sorry to bump this, but I have to ask. Rumors abound that Beowulf will be having the first teaser trailer for Indy 4. Can anyone confirm this? Dave's Trailer Page is down and I'm not able to see if it was updated with the teaser.

That's what I've been hearing Dagget, though I don't know if it was made official or not.

At least the movie takes place later than 1940, and their ages will actually make sense. It would have been horrible if they had been like "What do you mean he looks older? He's exactly the same."

I agree with your comment though...Karen Allen + Harrison Ford = Awesome. The only thing that I'll miss are the Nazis....I mean, can you really get any nastier bad guys?

Is it bad that I'm more jazzed by the promise of Lego Indiana Jones than I am for Indiana Jones 4?

An absolutely awful cameo rumor came up on Rotten Tomatoes, but a LOT of people are calling BS on it. Potential big spoiler, as absurd sounding as it may be.

Spoiler: Follow Link...

I read he's doing his own stunts, and I don't care how good of shape you're in, if you're 65 doing your own stunts, youbetter have a medical team near by!

Anyone doing a stunt has to have a medical team nearby. It's sort of the way it's done. Because people aren't stupid. Well, I mean, people who aren't you.

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I saw the words "official teaser" and I headed straight for Dave's Trailer Page to see if there was one up for download... then I saw you meant poster. :(

I actually like the art of this one though. It has almost a Temple of Doom flavor to it.

Looks Fate of Atlantis to me.
Me likes!

I'm not really that much of a movie-goer, so it may not mean much - but I'm thrilled about this sequel and have been looking forward to this for several years now. May 22nd can't come soon enough.

Pity Denholm Elliott died, I loved Marcus Brody.

The poster's great - I absolutely love Drew Struzan, and I'm glad they're still using him for the Indy posters. I agree, it definitely has a Temple of Doom feeling to it.

I heard Bellocq returns. As a Snooty French Zombie, archaelogy career intact.

Updated original post with some more info.

Saw the trailer yesterday, looking very good! Man, May 22 is still so long off, can't wait! By the way, from the trailer, is that the same warehouse as the one from Raider's?

Mutt: "You're a teacher?"
Indy: "Part-time"

There was a lot of funny things in it:

1. Indy was attacking people in US Army uniforms. This suggests either the Russians were in disguise, Indy's intentions are unknown to the government, or something else.

2. They show the vehicles driving to a remote base, shortly after we see this sequence.



I suggest that spoiler because of an easily overlooked part of the trailer:



Spielberg and co revealed enough to not disprove old rumors, nor confirm them, but certainly support them.

I haven't read any hardcore spoilers, but it definitely looks like the same warehouse. :cool: I paused the trailer at a couple of spots and it looks like the trucks are carrying various crates (similar to the one that Ark was put in). Hmm...

Anyway, that "sequence" was my favorite part of the trailer. Seeing Indy dodging bullets between the crates and all of the whip!action definitely reminded me of Raiders. So awesome!

All I can say is oh dear to the use of CGI. Seriously Lucas and Spielberg should have an injunction taken against them for going within 10 miles of a computer. We didn't need CGI in the previous 3 films to create effects so why break the mold now; regardless of the age of Mr. Ford thats why we have stunt doubles in Hollywood. (Although it does look like he has done alot of stunts himself).

Looks like a good watch in line with the original tone of the series; however, the aforementioned can destroy even the best for me.

If the leaked pictures of the skull are any indication...


Not sure if want.

I know it's pretty early to start quibbling over details, but one thing that kinda bothered me is that the movie seemed to be going completely lighthearted, perhaps aiming for a PG rating?

One of the great things about the original films, I thought, was the way they could mix serious/violent subject matter and still have it punctuated by those moments where you catch yourself grinning.

For some reason, those U.S. troops staring slackjawed at Indy while he pops a one-liner just rubs me the wrong way. I hope It doesn't get too cutesy for its own good.

Like I said, it's only a trailer, but the way Lucas treated the Star Wars prequels makes me wary just how many forced laughs he's going to try to cram into the film.

The scene would have been perfect if Indy didn't state the obvious. It's always lines like that which ruin the comedic potential of a scene...non-verbal action should always take precedence.

It's also unfortunate how they always manage to fuck up the cues in trailers by cutting them at the worst spots.

The CG does look fake, but it is resulting in a degree of inadvertent campiness that I like.

About the CG, I've read a couple of quotes from the producer and he said they're trying to stick to real effects/stunts as much as possible. However, in this article, Spielberg says "the effects work was approximately 70 percent practical and 30 percent CGI, although the computer-generated work will be obvious (presumably backdrops and large set pieces)."

:( I am grateful that Spielberg has more control over this thing than George Lucas - he most likely won't shame the Indy franchise as much as Lucas would've on his own. George probably would've included some kind of CG sidekick (ala Jar Jar Binks) and shot on entirely digital locations. *shudder*

Bumping. New trailer is to premiere tonight with Iron Man, bootleg's floating around. Hi-res coming tomorrow.

Awful quality: Bootleg Version of 'Indiana Jones 4' Trailer on the Net

Time for some glorious HD!

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Sneaksy! You took my gig! :tpg:

I want to see this new trailer, but I'm going to have to wait. 70 MB isn't exactly "dial-up friendly" :(

I didn't need to see that trailer to be interested, but now I have to see it.

Yet another trailer from the official site:

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It's not too much different from the last one: they added more bits that are in the TV Spots and expanded a bit on a couple scenes.

The first reviews are starting to trickle in; unfortunately, it's not pretty.

ReelViews Movie Review: Indiana Jones & the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

It's a mixed bag:

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Does this really surprise you, guys? I mean, the first three movies (or maybe two of them) were absolutely awesome, how could one expect the fourth one to be better than that?

From what I've read, this movie could have been directed by Michael Bay. Now you go ahead and decide whether that's a good or a bad thing.

When Speilberg made that comment about using as little CG as possible, I was very skeptical.

For the most part they probably used the CG where they said they would - in the environments (like how FX were used in making the storm form over the dig site in Raiders), but the criticism of the CG is when they use it when it's not necessary - I think like in the car chase next to the cliff, and those four tall pillars moving inward in the trailer.

The CG and the story isn't really what I'm worried about.
When I heard that they were basing Indy IV on the B-Grade sci fi pictures of the 50s, I knew it wasn't going to be AS good as when they were based on 30s TV serials....

Its the parts in the reviews where they say 'there's no real sense of danger'.

We'll just have to see for ourselves when it comes out.

Personally I think Lucas is the criminal in that department.

I can't believe that for some of the most simplest and basic of special FX that they have used CG judging by the trailers and snippets I have seen. It simply adds to the cost and vanity of the film both of which it doesn't need.

Just came back from seeing it, I was always of the opinion that a new Indiana Jones film was unnecessary and that's how I came out of the film. Alot of it felt forced, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

I'll get talking about specific bits when everyone else sees it.

Would you say it's worth the wait? I am so excited to check it out!

It depends on how much you have amped it up in your head in what to expect. I definitely enjoyed it, but I couldn't have said I would have been disappointed if it hadn't seen the light of day, although I am happy at how they handled it.

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Also I might add that Shia LeBeouf didn't suck. Probably the first time I have enjoyed a role he has played.

I have to say I didn't notice one instance of CG the entire movie.

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Who'm I kiddin' =[

Just came back from watching it. It was decent of a film. The ending is what really pissed me off. Loved how they portrait the old films cameos in this one. Was a little slow but still good. "B-/C+" Average film. All Indiana Jones Fans should go see it but don't expect another Raider of the Last Ark.

First Indiana Jones movie I have ever seen, and it was alright. The ending pretty much makes you think they're not gonna do a 5th one. I'd recommend it to the Indy fans but if you're like me and before today have never seen an Indiana Jones movie, you might want to think about it a little.

Honestly, I was expecting a lot of people to dress up but I only saw one Indy, one person wearing an Indy hat, and one person dressed up like some soldier.

What? That's tragic. I do know that there are people who haven't seen the Indiana Jones trilogy and I know of one that I'm going to do a marathon with soon before going to see number four. You really ought to see the first three before seeing this movie.

So, I've just seen it, and I must admit I was thoroughly entertained throughout the movie. Well, except for a few scenes.
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And I lolled at the snake scene. Y'all know what I talk about:3:

All in all a decent solid good movie. Some things were over the top like but every Indiana Jones has had some over the top scenes. I enjoyed it and I'm gonna see it again :)

Amphibious vehicles are real-life things, so that's not exactly over-the-top.

Saw it Thursday afternoon. Honestly? What it was missing was Sallah punching some fucking Soviets through a newspaper. Goddamn you, Spielberg.

Still, no Sallah. :(

Well as a fan of the old films, i think it was a decent movie. Definitely watch it if you are a fan. The CG didn't bother me at all. Even though I would consider it my least favorite Indy movie, I definitely enjoyed it.

Just got back from it. I thought it was pretty good, though still doesn't beat my favorite: Last Crusade. Some rantings:

Saw the film this evening. UGH. Fucking GOOD by any other standards. For an Indiana Jones film? FUCKING AWFUL. More on this later.

Good but not great...

That's it. I've ignored this thread long enough.

Yes, this review will contain some spoilers, and I'm not going to be arsed to go through and find them all. So read at your own risk.





Great, great flick (Note: Flick, not film. This is popcorn movie all the way). WAY better than Audi Man. Let's get that shit out of the way right off the top.

I've heard a lot of people bitch about how this wasn't up to the Indiana Jones standard. You're right, this wasn't Raiders II. Nor should it have been. It's over. Get a new show.

The look of the show was a deliberate attempt to make it look like overexposed stock, and it worked. It wasn't distracting, it wasn't horrible, it just wasn't necessary. I'd rather they made it look more dirty, but whatever. This is clearly how Lucas wants his movies to look now. Shiny. Not my cup of tea, but not really something I can rip into the guy over. It's like getting pissed at Sin City for looking like it was green screened.

The CG was heftier than I would have liked, but again, it didn't detract from the characters or the chemistry they had. Which was great. I'm also going to quote Sprout's review here for a second: "It's a cruel irony that a movie about an archeologist is marred by its CG indulgences."

Sprout, buddy, I love you... but shut the fuck up. A cruel irony? So... it's a movie about an archaeologist is it? Because this is what real archaeologists do? So... should the whole thing have been drawn on papyrus and flipped in front of a camera really fast? Would that have been more apt?

He is right about his next point, though. There isn't a ton of suspense in this picture, but I'm sorry... did you think the giant boulder was going to run him over in Raiders? Because I sure the fuck didn't. Of course Indy survives all of it. He's Indiana Fucking Jones. He is a super hero. That's the bloody point. It's a 30's serial picture. Indiana Jones isn't an archaeologist or a professor, that's his alter-ego. He's a fucking Super Man. You're completely forgetting the series if you think for a second we're going to see weakness in Indy beyond getting punched and knocked down a few times. This isn't the Bucket List, it's INDIANA JONES. He could be 90, he'd still fuck a guy up. That's the point. That's the basis they work from. It's not based on realism, it's based on comic pulp.

The final thing a lot of people have an issue with is the denouement. I'm sorry. Was it more believable when it was the Ark of the Covenant? Or Shiva's Temple? Because that was pretty random/crazy paranormal bullshit. The only part of the end that didn't feel EXACTLY like an Indiana Jones movie was the very/very end. It felt more like a bookend than a part of the flick. Other than that, we hit the main point of why this movie was great for what it was:

It got it. It felt like an Indiana Jones movie. He was a super hero, he put on the hat, he went to an exotic location on a plane while a red line showed us on the map what exotic location he was going to. He used the whip, he punched the enemies of America, he was charming. It felt like it had way more place in the series than Temple of Doom.

A lot of people have been getting all uppity because it didn't go into serious character development. But none of the movies did. I'll say it one more time: 30's FUCKING SERIALS. There was only one point in this movie where it really fell apart, and that was Shia playing Tarzan. Completely stupid, unnecessary, and all I could think of was King Kong while it was happening. It was the only time the CG was really distracting.

It had everything you want in an Indiana Jones movie. Indy kicking ass, a strong female heroine, some russkies/nazis to beat up on, a bunch of throw backs to the original movie... it was all in there. The music was great, the locations were wonderful... it had all the great Indy tropes of cheesy sci-fi pulp. Nazca lines, crazy tribal warriors, nazi/russian obsession with the occult, Crystal Skull myths, references to Milton... this movie did it exactly right in terms of setting the mood for an Indiana Jones movie.

It's a terrible screen play, but it was supposed to be a terrible screen play. It's Indiana Jones. They weren't going to give us the joy that is Raiders of the Lost Ark again.

Was it as good as Raiders? No. Was it a damned good flick that has every right to be included in the canon? Fucking rights it does. Anyone who says this doesn't feel like an Indiana Jones movie has never seen an Indiana Jones movie. Best super hero flick of the Summer.

And I add something written by some friend of LeHah's.

Allow me to be succinct for all you putzes who are going to be tl;dr, and I WILL spoiler this bit.

I believe you had to keep drinking from it for eternal life.

I think all of that was "voided" after Elsa crossed the seal with the Grail. Also, I think Indy would've had to take the old Knight's place in order to truly remain immortal. That's how I've always understood it, at least...

Saw this a few days ago... I wish they hadn't included as much CGI - especially for so many of the backdrops - but overall I'd say this was the third best Indy film, after Raiders and Last Crusade. Definitely better than Temple of Doom. Then again, it doesn't take much to be better than ToD... heh.

Actually now that I recall what the old knight said "But beware the Grail cannot pass beyond the Great Seal, for that is the boundry, and the price, of immortality." Heh, so that actually does explain it.

Immortality means you don't die from age, it doesn't mean you're ageless, per se.