PS3 60GB Pricecut Confirmed
 

http://www.kotv.com/news/national/story/?id=131051

So if I would have waited 8 months I could have gotten a bigger harddrive and a free game. At least non PS3 owners can get one for $499.99. The extra 20GB isn't worth it just yet. I think I've only used about 10 or so of mine since I got my PS3 in December. But if you planned on getting Motorstorm I guess it would be worth it.

Funny, I saw a 300 GB External for $100 at Best Buy. Oh well.

At least now price drops are possible. $599/$499 is still too much though.

I remember the Sega Saturn and Playstation being at those prices back in the day, so I guess it doesn't surprise at how expensive the new generation of machines are. Either way, I think it's awesome that the ps3 got a price cut, if only Ace Combat was gonna be released on that...it would have been a done deal. Oh well, maybe i'll get it in the future.

I agree. I cringe at having to pay 250 U.S.D. for an iPod or such, so you can only imagine how I feel at paying DOUBLE that for a gaming system.

I suppose I'll wait until the PS4 comes out. I do wonder though what the price of a PS3 will be by then (if it will even be under 250 U.S.D.)...

Still too much, considering the PS3 library, but a step in the right direction (and probably out of necessity more than anything).

Meh, I thought Motorstorm looked okay, but it was never one of my "must-have" titles. It would be nice if they put Motorstorm up on PSN for a reduced price, but other than that, I think we all saw this coming.

And yeah, 20 gigs doesn't exactly do much for me when I still have 43 or so after formatting. Plus PS3 owners can plug and play external hard drives, which if I'm not mistaken, 360 owners can't.

I will wait to see what those 100 games are gonna be before I make my wallet to cry once again. I'll probably buy a regular 360 before a PS3.

Interesting. Sony just can't give up the idea that people want to pay $599 for a PS3, so they are still giving them that option even though as mentioned 750GB external HD > 80GB PS3 HD (which is only 20GB bigger than normal) and Motorstorm will probably be a budget title soon after release...

A better idea to move more units would have been a price drop and the inclusion of Motorstorm with the system.

Its not really pissing on us, because we knew eventually they'd drop the price. The fact that they're adding on 20GB more isn't much of a big deal since you can buy a 200GB HD for about $100. Motorstorm also isn't a great title, but bundles are good.

Like said before, it's not the best step yet, but it's a step in the right direction that they needed to take. The console will be much more desirable with this and a slew of good games come Fall.

With the system at the maximum generally accepted price of $500 for a console will make the PS3 a worthy competitor come fall and onward. Sony has NEVER been the quickest out of the starting gate, however their slow and steadily growing library has ALWAYS been their key to succes.

As for this thing about pissing on people who already have the system. I think the majority of early adopters are usually realists and for thoes who arn't should come to the turms with the fact that price drops are guarenteed to happen. And if they don't like that then that's simply too bad because no one else is gonna care.

Oh, so this is just waiting game.

In that case, I'll just wait for a further price drop. 399 sounds super to me.

Do they still make the 20 GigaBiga version in America? If so they only need to make one more now (maybe a 500,007 GB version) and people can go for one more, Connect Four™. THEY COULD EVEN INCLUDE A VIDEO GAME VERSION OF CONNECT FOUR IN THE BUNDLE. This is why I should work for Sony.

Alright, not bad with the price drop but it's still a bit expensive. I'm also taking into consideration that they haven't gotten all the bugs ironed out yet (I can say the same for my poor 360...damn red ring). There's also the problem with the game library for the PS3. There's only one game that interests me right now and that's Ninja Gaiden Sigma. However, from what I've seen it's the same story from the Xbox version. Anything else interesting on PS3 are titles I can just play on the other systems. Until the PS3 gets some good games out *cough* MGS4 *cough*, I see no rush in getting a PS3. Let the price drop even further by then, Sony. :D

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the PS3 is getting Ace Combat 6. I think I read that it's only a timed exclusive...

I don't know how big of a deal this may be, but what about the emotion engine that was included in all of the initial batches of PS3's? Probably not a deal breaker or anything to justify the $100 we could have saved, but we all knew a price drop was comming eventually anyways. Sooner the better, if you ask me.

It is nothing more then speculation, really. Their has been speculation in regards to it, but no offical annoucement from the people who matter; Namco.

It will most likely be on the PS3, but right now this rumour has as much legitimacy as the one about MGS4 going to the 360.

BTT, I think this is a shitty move by Sony and it seems they only did it to counteract the recent 360 annoucement in regards to the 3 year warranty extention. This would have had a far more profound effect if Sony at least waited to annouce this when a little thing like games were actually avaliable for the PS3.

As of Currently, the PS3 has only two must-get games which themselves only apply to niche genres, that are already better covered on the PS3's competition.

I doubt this will boost PS3 sales by much, as most people it seems are waiting for the games and really don't care about the price point as much as they care about the current lack of games avaliable on the system.

If I were Sony I would have waited until they release some of the big guns that people are waiting for. Then at the same time drop the price so people would be more determined to go out and buy one with the super awesome exclusives that just came out along with an up and running home. Instead they decided to do it now when it still doesn't have that great a library of games.

Oh well.

Pisses on 60GB owners? Were you expecting them to never drop the price? This is good news if anything.

Absolutely. I don't exactly know how any PS3 owner could be "pissed" about this. I mean, the more people finally buying a PS3, the better, right?

The $100 "price drop" (although it's more like replacing the 20GB, Wifi/cardreaderless PS3 with the 60GB one) really doesn't sound too bad. I don't see much use for the 80GB system though, you can get a standard laptop harddrive that has over double that for under $100. Packing in Motorstorm seems like something they should do for all the bundles instead of just the $600 one. Still, $500 for what the system has seems pretty fair.

However, I'm kinda hoping this means the 20GB variants will turn up cheap. My local Pawn America had used 60GB PS3s for $500 already before this price drop, so if they drop the used 60GB PS3 price down to $420 or so, I could easily see them having a 20GB model for around $350. I could definitely go for that.

Well, not less than 8 months after launch. I'm sure if most people knew it would drop in less than year they would have waited to buy one. But when your system sells so bad I guess you do what you gotta do. Maybe they were waiting for E3 to do the price drop just because they have an amazing line-up of games to show off.

I do feel sorry for my friend who just bought a PS3 2 months ago. He could have saved 100 dollars.

Well, all things considered, they did fix all the jaggies with last-gen games, and they got upscaling for DVDs and such. What bugs were you thinking of?

Or, did you mean, waiting until the library of games gets bigger?

What a weak reason to feel sorry for someone. It's not like someone took anything away from him; he knew the price and what he gets for it, and he was willing to pay it. If he thought it was worth 600 dollars, it's not like he can suddenly complain OH SHIT NO 600 DOLLARS WAS TOO MUCH, SHOULD HAVE WAITED FOR 500. And if he got it two months ago, you could say that he paid less than two dollars per day for using it, which sounds reasonable.

What I'm saying here is that anyone who feels pissed on after this is a retard. Did they specifically expect Sony to only make a price cut after (a year/two years/whatever) in order not to hurt their feelings? Even if I had already bought a PS3, I would much prefer they reduce the price even more, because I'm kind of interested in not seeing the console fail.

Actually, 8 months has been pretty standard for console price drops in recent generations. The PS1, Dreamcast, Gamecube, and Xbox all saw $50 or $100 price drops around then, and with all the complaints about the PS3 because of its price, it was pretty much inevitable that a price drop would happen sometime soon. In general, the systems released later in a generation will have price drops pretty quickly. But again, this is more like replacing the 20GB system with the 60GB one rather than a "universal" drop in price.

Now if only Microsoft would follow suit and discontinue the 360 Core and replace it with the Premium...

I think the bad move here isa the 80gb version mainly because now the problem of the ps3 is the price and keeping the same price even for now 80gb, people will still not buy it. The price cut of the 60gb version is a good move.

I didn't think they would have cut the price that soon, but when you look at it, Sony is losing big money now because the console doesn't sell enough...

with the games that are this fall I think it will help sell the console.

btw why is this not in the official ps3 thread?

Actually I expected them to lower the prices in November/December for Christmas Sales.

Also, this has already been discussed in the PS3 thread, so we might buy a one-way-ticket to Mergetown

It wasn't yet confirmed when we talked about it in the PS3 thread. Now that it is, it might also interest people who don't read the thread regularly.

Still the price drop can only be good for Sony. And unlike Microsoft, when they see the 80Gig version not selling they WILL discontinue it.

Also the fact that most 360 buyers are going for the Elite system and that the PS3 is now only about $20 more + Blu-Ray, this will definately start bringing the hardcore over to Sony especially when LAIR and Warhawk come out.

What are your sources for this information?

Wasn't the Elite system some fairly limited release thing? This generation of consoles is so bloody retarded with the hard drive war.

No its a permanent SKU, they just sell like shit.

When I have some extra cash, considering I'm getting an HDTV I think I might get the Elite, though.

I've gone to stores with PS3 displays and most of them still don't work so that makes me not want to get one. Now I'm not sure if the people at the stores don't care to fix it or if it's just like that. Also from the one that I've seen work at Gamestop, I played a game (guessing it's Motorstorm) for about 5 minutes and my head started to hurt a bit.

I also heard there were heating and power issues, much like the 360 when it first came out. I guess they've gotten that fixed.

Yes I'm waiting for the game library to get better and from the looks of it, it's not gonna start happening till next year with MGS4. Also, besides MGS4, there doesn't seem to be any other exciting titles coming out.

No offense but you heard wrong. The consoles in the stores often don't work because they hide them in small non-ventilated areas which would probably overheat anything that needs to push out heat (since the heat won't be going anywhere).

The PS3 doesn't have any problems, there have been very few returns, not even enough to make a big deal out of it. It's fine to be weary because of the PS2 since it was somewhat shoddily built; but the PS3 is surprisingly well made and durable. I don't know anyone who has had it since launch that has had even the slightest problem with it.

It's great that you think the only worthwhile game is MGS4 but for people who actually give new series a chance there are plenty of great looking games coming out from the end of this month up to the middle of next year.

The same place as just about everything else this kid says: his imagination.

This price break sounds pretty good to me. An extra 20 gigs of hard drive space and a game does not equal $100, so the 60 gig model for $500 sounds a whole lot better than the one for $600. I like how these console manufacturers buy a bunch of overstocked, obsolete hard drives, probably for about five to ten dollars a piece, to put in their consoles and then expect the consumers to want to pay a premium for them. That said, we might not be all that far away from it being an attractive purchase.

It's not only 20 GB extra, there's also a "retail copy" of MotorStorm, booyah!

It's actually hard to tell how well they sell. I've not seen any specific Elite SKU numbers, but they often sell out extremely fast. A large part of that is due to the fact that production of Elites is really low, for some stupid reason.

I'm going to ignore everything else however since this thread is *already* a mess. How the hell does this always happen with the PS3 stuff?

Edit: I'll say some of it anyway.

This is useless. Last week, we had two SKUs. Cheapest was 500 bucks. This week...we have two SKUs, cheapest of which is 500 bucks. Granted, there's more to the cheap one now. 40 gigs, wi-fi, a card reader, and some WHIZZBANG WOWZERS CHROME FINISH, but since the PS3's 20 Gig model was never the useless retard pack that the ridiculous 360 Core was, there is little reason to call for it's discontinuation other than Sony taking more of a loss on that unit. I wish it was still available.

Have some 20 Gigs for 400 bucks and damn, now you're talking.

Price point, at this point, doesn't really matter. Because, like has been said quite a few times already ... there's no killer app for the PS3 yet. I agree with those that said Sony should have waited until they had that must-have game ready to come out before they dropped the price of the system. It would capitalize on the hype of the game, instead of making it look like a move of desperation. Consumers, while sometimes not the brightest bunch, can tell when a product isn't doing very well. And especially people that are likely to make a $500-600 investment on a gaming console. Usually they're going to do a bit of research before they make the decision to go ahead and buy.

So really, this is just Sony looking desperate.

Well lol I dunno Sony basically already fucked up everything they could, so this move isn't exactly their worst decision yet.

@Aardark
There's not much to go on figure wise, only trends. The trend around here is that most new adopters of the 360 and some already owners are picking up the Elite 360, simply because they think it's "better", (don't forget the US is the ONLY place with the video marketplace and I'm in Canada). How do I know about this trend you say, I work at a video game store, so while it's a small sample, it's something.

I also have friends who work at Best Buy and Futureshop and an EB games and they've also noticed the same thing. So while it may not be a NY TIMES figure or something, with the way MS is we'll never see real figures for it for another two years at the earliest (look how long it took for a failure rate analysis), so it's the best as a person can get.

That's the thing though. The Elite's HDMI output is really *the* reason to buy it, but you're right, the hard drive is completely useless outside of the US where no Video Marketplace exists. My hard drive still has 9.5 or so gigs free on it, and that's since launch, and I've bought or downloaded most of the major DLC for the games I've got. The space issue is kinda meaningless if you stream your content from your PC instead of rip it to the console's storage.

Same reason I kinda don't give a poop about the larger hard drive in the PS3. I'll never use all that space unless they start dropping full blown 6 or 8 gig games down the service on a regular basis.

Also, real sales numbers aren't usually provided by MS, it's mostly done by NPD. Unfortunately, they combine all the SKUs into one figure and don't give broken down sales stats.

Bad news guys!

http://kotaku.com/gaming/get-out-and...ion-276401.php

Newer PS3s which include the 80 gig versions are said to be using software emulation instead of ps2 emotion chips. That means shit backwards compatibility like PAL PS3s. I don't even want a PS3 yet but oh god I don't want shit backwards compatibility because I waited. Guh...

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Oh wait...

http://faq.eu.playstation.com/bc/

Seems, Ico and Shadow of the Colossus still work. Day is saved.

Bad news? European PS3s had software PS2 emulation from day one. Nobody cares.

Backwards compatibility is about 99% for hardware EE and 98% for software EE. No big deal. Some people say software emulation is superior because it's more flexible in terms of visual improvements and future updates.

Yup, I just read about that. Jumped the gun on that one. Still, backwards compatibility is important to me. How's 360's now?

Can you even call it "backwards compatibility" on the Xbox 360? I always thought of it more along the lines of "plays a select few Xbox titles, such as Barbie Horse Adventures".

I dunno, last I checked, the rate was at about 30%, with higher quality games having a smaller chance of being compatible for some weird reason. You can always check the official status page:

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/back...ygameslist.htm

360 BC is limited because it's also software emulation. As various functions from the old graphics hardware become emulated, specific games that use those functions start working. They do not pick and choose what games to emulate.http://colonelskills.belkanairforce....ages/ace/1.gif

No they don't however it seems that MS has cut the development team of the BC Compat project to three bums and a mascott at the pace they're going.

However there is now FINALLY Unreal Championship 2 support on the 360 which is what I was waiting for. Now I have 5 of 37 original games that play on the 360, Woo Hoo!!!