SMT: Persona 3 (The RPG to keep talking about, since :awesome:) Now with more PEZ.
 

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NA Release Date: July 24th, 2007
Platform: Playstation 2
ESRB Rating: Mature for Blood, Language, Partial Nudity, Violence
Official US Website: Persona 3 FES Website

Game Description:
In Persona 3, you’ll assume the role of a high school student, who was orphaned as a young boy, and has recently transferred to Gekkoukan High School on Port Island. Only days after he arrives at the school dorm, he is attacked by a Shadow. The assault awakens his Persona, Orpheus, his only chance at defeating this creature of the night. He soon discovers that he shares this special ability with other students at his new school. From them he learns of the Dark Hour, a hidden time that exists between one day and the next, swarming with Shadows that have been slowing claiming victims known as The Lost—poor souls who have inexplicably been turned into walking zombies. Under the supervision of school chairman Shuji Ikutsuki, he joins his new friends in confronting this evil threat.

With your school as the primary battlefield, you’ll be forced to juggle between two lives: student by day, defender against evil by night. And your greatest challenges await you on the eve of each full moon.

Features:

• Engaging Social Link system lets you build intimate relationships with friends and love interests alike!
• Unforgettable characters and professionally-acted dialogue bring the story to life!
• Massive replay value with over 20 Social Links and a complex storyline encompassing a full school year.
• Highly stylized designs grace the beautiful 2D character portraits, detailed 3D animations, and heart-pounding cut scenes!
• Intense, strategic battle system; find and exploit enemy weaknesses with the help of your allies!

Game Bonus Features:
The game is listed for $49.99 and comes in a boxset which includes a full-color, 52-page art book packed with character art, concept sketches, and more. It also comes with a soundtrack CD featuring the hip urban-techno music of Shoji Meguro, composer of the haunting and unforgettable scores for Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga!

Intro Movie:

YouTube Video

Screenshots:


Here it is! Persona 3 in English! The game was originally released in Japan a year ago and has taken until now to get localized. The Persona series has always been a spin off of Shin Megami Tensei and for some reason they decided to add the Shin Megami Tensei to the title of the US version even though the first 2 were released here without it I'm still just going to call it Persona 3 anyway.

The Persona games have always been wacky modern day based RPGs with demons and a cast of High School students who fight them off with guns and their Personas (more or less alter egos or other selves). Well, except for Eternal Punishment which didn't have High School kids. Unfortunately the English versions of the game were always incomplete in one way or another. Persona 1 was Americanized as in the characters themselves being renamed and slightly changed to appeal more to North Americans. The most drastic change being a Japanese kid with freckles being transformed into a black kid. Besides all this they cut a section out of the game for whatever reason. And the game had a sloppy translation. Persona 2's localization was handled much much better, except we only got the second half to the game. Let's hope we don't get screwed again with this third game and Atlus localizes the expansion disc which has the true ending to Persona 3.

This one is drastically different from the first two. The game is now a dating sim and dungeon crawler. You live the life of a teenage Japanese student. You wake up in the morning, socialize with friends, go to classes in school, jjoin clubs, and everything else you could do as a student. Building relationships is key to becoming stronger for the dungeon crawling. This game also uses an interesting method of summoning personas. The kids actually shoot themselves in the head every time they summon them. I wouldn't be surprised if this and the whole emo high school kids in school with guns is the reason this game jumped from a 12 and up game to Mature in the states. :tpg:

I'm looking forward to this game just because I've always been a fan of persona and I'd like to play a game that strays away from the usual RPG formula and tries something completely different. It isn't very often we get titles like these brought to our shores. Plus the game has so much style to it. Just listen to the music and watch some videos to see what I mean. I say its worth 50 bucks just because you get a long game and a ton of nifty extras with it.

Go pre-order. NOW!

http://www.theplaymakers.com/welcome...Pez_lineup.jpg

I've always like the Shin Megami Tensai series... Although I've never beaten any, this one seems to grab my interest more than the other ones have. Probably because of the random school setting.

I might just go ahead and pre-order this.

Oh God it's been so long.

I loved Eternal Punishment to death. Shin Megami Tensei turned out to be a great replacement for a time (and then Devil Summoner to a much smaller degree), but this is what I've been waiting for. Don't fail me now, Atlus.

I'm not sure about this one. even if it look nice, I have always like the shin megami tensei series mainly for they dark atmosphere and their weird demons. I really don't like the dating sim thing... well I didn't test it but I don,t think it fit the atmosphere...

Anyway it still seem like a good game, I just don't like the new look for a shin megami tensei game

It seems like I've been waiting for Persona 3 forever! I was pretty much sold when I saw how the persona are summoned, last year. I'll definitely be pre-ordering this one very soon.

I pre-ordered this several months ago as soon as I heard about the soundtrack and 52-page artbook. At first I was slightly impressed that the Gamestop manager knew it was listed under Shin Megami Tensei when Persona 3 didn't come up in the computer, but was quickly unimpressed by his claim that the creator was getting greedy by sticking his name in the title after the first two were just called Persona.

I've yet to actually play a Persona game, but this looks fantastic. Nocturne and especially DDS were both great games, and I can't wait to play Persona 3.

The guide's by Doublejump, too. So that'll be an extra 20 bucks extremely well spent. I dunno how many of you collect/buy guides, but if it's done even half as well as their Nocturne effort was, it'll be insane.http://colonelskills.belkanairforce....ages/ace/1.gif

I was a little put off by the dating sim thing too, but considering that this is Atlus and that the conversation systems in SMT3 and Persona 2 were so absolutely hilarious and awesome, odds are good that they can do a dating sim that's not too offensive...except in those ways where it helps to be.

im up for playing this, but im not completely sure how i feel about the fact that your characters shoot themselves in the head to cast magic, even healing lol

im sure ill still buy it

well it still a shin megami tensei game... just in DDS they even cannibalize them self and eat other demons so I guess shooting in the head is nothing really out of the ordinary for this series XD

English website is officially up now with tons of information, English trailers and gameplay videos.

Hmmmm upon reading a bit from that summary I'm a bit more disinterested in it than I was before. I played a little bit of the first Persona games, owning the second one, but I dunno. I'm sure this will play like a 'classic' Japanese RPG right? I'll probably wait for some reviews before I purchase this one.

Just an FYI to any of you thinking buying the Mitsuru figure off play-asia or any other import site. Come late September, its gonna be available in US and for $30-$34 to boot. [According to Diamond] Tfaw has already started preorders.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

Oh man, this is horrible news! I was so looking forward to having this on Wednesday that I tied up all my lose ends with other games that I have been playing (i.e. finally beat them).

Well, hopefully it won't be THAT long of a delay, but I wouldn't have really cared if the binding on the art book was of sub par quality. Not like I'm going to look at it a BIGILLION times or anything.

Yeah, I was sitting on a pile of bricks by the time I saw the ship date changed from 7/24 to 7/31, and that last one feels like a placeholder date to me. Either way, can't get too upset considering what we're getting along with the title.

Well, at least they aren't willing to ship out artbooks with faulty bindings just to meet the ship date. Still, I really hope this doesn't cause more than a week or so of delay. I was looking forward to having a full month with the game before school starts back.

Oh, also, here is a very positive REVIEW. It's good to see, even though it's coming from RPGamer.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OO!!!!!!!

Well, time to sink that money on to the credit card and then go buy some comic books until SMT comes out. :(

Also, RPGamer fucks a lot of stuff up, but they're usually fairly right on in terms of how they review story.

Yeah, I'd definitely agree with that. I think they evaluate story lines very well in most cases. Though, every so often they completely drop the ball.

My favorite review for the game so far. No scores though but a nice read =P

No worry. It's only a week. This game has been delayed, how many times before and for how many months?

Actually this is pretty good for me, since Play-Asia wasn't getting it in until the 26th anyway. They usually won't get American games straight away, but it beats the hell out of $11.50US in shipping. Waiting a few more days won't hurt.

Yeah, I just buy other fun useless stuff (In this case, Flight comics 1,2,3,4) in order to tide me over.

Persona 3 officially shipping August 14th. I think anyone who cares about the artbook at this point would rather import the official design works...*sigh*.

Ideally they could just ship the extras at a later time and show your receipt to get them. Since part of the issue is keeping the box reinforced enough for shipping that would probably just turn into more trouble than it's worth, though. Not to mention how much trouble there would be with EB managers/employees swiping the goods and telling people they never received them.

Is this deluxe package the only package available? I just wanna make sure before placing an order on Amazon, as it doesn't state what edition it sells.

Yes. Every copy of the game comes with artbook, cd and the special packaging.

This game looks pretty good, especially those anime scenes. Persona 3 has a stand-alone story, with nothing to do with the other games in the series right? Maybe I'll go pick it up tomorrow, heh, I keep telling myself 'this will be the last PS2 game I'll buy.' Hope its worth it. =x

Odin Sphere could have been better.

Thanks man, now I can place my order worry-free :D

Yes, you don't need to have played any of the previous Persona or MegaTen games to understand the story.

Whoo! Now knowing that this is a stand alone game and I wouldn't have needed to play the other Persona games AND seeing this game get good scores... It seems like this game deserves a purchase.

I wanted to save it for something else, but I'm sure this would be more interesting.

First 42 minutes here. Looks incredible, the dubbing is really excellent.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/u...ies/86990.html

Damn, definitely liked what I saw, even though the wait's going to be excruciating now.

ok after watching that video, I'm so getting this game!

and I have to withdraw what I said in this thread, this game is so creepy XD

oh and I'm so getting that soundtrack!

Ah, just went back to check it out again and the same video is available in a higher res. Some things were a little hard to make out in the other one, so it's nice to have this one.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/932312.asp

This game has been getting fairly high scores. EGM even gave it a 9.5, 9.5, and 8.5 and game of the month in its September issue over Blue Dragon. 17 more days. ;_;

I'm actually quite a bit surprised at those scores. Wouldn't have expected the game to turn out that good, especially since it's one of the lesser known series in the J-RPG niche.

Of course I'm even more excited about Persona 3 now. The game looks gorgeous and gameplay seems to be refreshingly different from its predecessors. The delay is bad, but I guess it will be worth the wait.

Why is this coming out the same day as Madden ;_;

Well, I guess Madden will be for when friends come over, and Persona will be for my sad alone time when I need single player games to pick me up...which is more often than I think >_>

This game definitely has had my interest peaked, which is suprising, since none of the other Megaten ever did. I'm pretty much a sucker for the whole social aspect they hyped so much, and the reviews I've been seeing have only bolstered my decision to grab this game.

Why did I think this game was out already? I went in to Gamestop today, browsed the PS2 section for a while then finally asked 'Do you have Persona 3?' They said it got pushed back because of something wrong with the artbook..

As you just said, it was pushed back.

They said it was about some manufacturer delays.

9.5
http://www.rpgland.com/games/persona3/review.html

Holy shit, it's a website dedicated to RPGs giving an RPG game a high score.

I think I'll stick to personal judgement and youtube videos when it comes to "evaluating" a game.

I wouldn't discredit the review just because it's a site dedicated to RPGs, but a lot of their scores are way off. Children of Mana gets a 7 while Puzzle Quest gets a 4? Definitely not placing much trust in them.

Understandable, but it would probably make more sense to compare the Persona 3 review to others by the same author, not reviews written by someone else, such as the two you list, wouldn't it?
(He has reviewed Odin Sphere (9), Super Robot Taisen (7), Hoshigami Remix (4), Contact (5), Devil Summoner (7), and Shining Force EXA (2)
IIRC, only 4 games ever have gotten that high of a score or higher in the 'Land, so a 9.5 is kinda up there.
(Xenogears, Lunar 2, Skies of Arcadia, Wind Waker)

In any case, a review is one person's opinion. When someone forum posts that or takes interest in it, they're not saying "Jeff Johnson says this is great, so you will all find it great too!" No media outlet also functions as The Good Taste Bible; a single reviewer's opinion is just that. People should approach reviews with the fact in mind that their own opinion may vary--be it greatly or slightly.

Nevertheless, this is the internet, and before games are released, it's not uncommon to post and compare reviews of it. So here this one is ^_^
He enjoyed pretty much everything about the game, looks like.

Personally, Persona 3 doesn't sound like something I'd have a total blast with, but I do think I'll give it a try some time, maybe after I'm done with Wild ARMs 5 and Growlanser: Heritage of War, whenever that may be.

Why would someone take the time and effort to make a review of Lunar 2 without making one for Lunar 1? I don't get it.

Seems like Persona 3 has been delayed even more!

Gamestop shows that it will actually begin shipping on August 18. I probably wouldn't believe it just based on their word, but Amazon is saying they'll begin shipping on the 19th.

I haven't heard any official word from Atlus (yet), but looks like we'll have to hold our horses just a little bit more.

I'm a little confused about whether or not it's delayed. Best Buy's site says the 21st, but their site is terrible about game release dates. EB's site said it was shipping on the 14th bonus offer section said the 18th this morning (and has ever since the initial delay), but now it says it's out and the 18th date has been removed from the Bonus Offer section.

I'll go by the mall tomorrow and hope for the best, I suppose. At the very least I'm hoping to pick up Rune Factory anyway.

Definitely, my EBGames order went from the preorder text I've seen this whole time to: Processing

Hopefully we find out what's going on here.

I already got mine. Going to play it tonight.

ness --
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Tritoch --
Folks on Gamefaqs are confused as well, but a few folks mention that the "delayed 'till 18th" thing should've been announced by ATLUS in its entirety (mis-information?). I've already been billed, so I think the "processing" stage means they're throwing it out the door, but it's not quite there.

I guess we'll see a lot of Persona 3 avatars/signatures following todays release. I'm really interested in this game.

:(

I'm frustrated at Gamestop also... I'm still gonna check everyday to see if they have it in yet or anything.

But once everyone has their copy, I wouldn't mind doing a Persona 3 theme week if anyone is up to it.

Pictures?

Bah! The steady stream of misinformation is killing me. Let's all buy import copies!

Whatever. I'm going to hold off a couple days in any case. Just got Madden which will keep me occupied for awhile. I don't see this special edition selling out anytime soon, so there should be a copy available somewhere next week or so. I'll just have to live vicarously through the praise that (hopefully) will be heaped upon the game here.

Gasp Syndrome! Shocking >_>

At ease!

There isn't really misinformation.

It says right on Atlus's site that P3 is shipping today. Source.

So tomorrow. Hold your horses folks, no need to think anything's happened.

Edit: Plus, GS says "Shipping in 24 hours". Moar source

I phoned a B&M around here and they said they'd be in Thursday (which is a standard one day delay for this sort of thing up here in this area.)

Plus, the 18th is a Saturday. When was the last time anything shipped on a Saturday?

Wiis?

Now I just have to hope my Gamestop won't be packed full of people trying to GET DAT MADDEN tomorrow. They're too hardcore for me; I only want to buy my game about schoolkids shooting themselves in the face and leave.

It should have been fairly obvious I was discussing software, but common sense seems to be lacking around here lately. Next time I'll be super specific instead of giving you folks the benefit of the doubt.

No worries, errybody gettin dat madden today son.

I laughed at this for a good while, mainly because I immediately imagined this one guy I know saying it. Ah well, there's probably someone out there making fun of us and our an hero game.

Okay kids! School officially starts today! All your local GS/EBs should have them and if you pre-ordered, you should have gotten one of those lame phone messages by now.

Can't wait! I'll probably end up waiting a little while at the store for the delivery truck to show up because I want this game in my hands as soon as possible. I'll only have a few hours to play it before I go to work, which kind of bums me out, but oh well, I suppose. At least I'll finally get to check this baby out!

Lies.

Seriously, where is the fucking game, Atlus?

Oh most definitely my friend. Being a fan of both Madden and your standard RPG, I've had my share of enjoyable moments hanging out with diehard fans of each who look down on the other.

In any case, all I know, is that my copy of Madden arrived safely, while apparently if you want to buy a copy of Persona 3 online, you're out of luck, unless you want to give Gamestop a try (as they claim to have copies...although a search of store inventories show zero copies across the board, at least for the regions I searched for). Amazon still is delaying shipment till the 19th (Sunday?), Bestbuy till the 20th.

This is pretty much not *how* to do a release Atlus.

Of course, from Atlus' POV, all is well.

http://atlus.com/newsdetail.php?newsID=154

Damn, that must be fun, eh? You probably get quite a few hairy eyes on you from both sides when you mention you enjoy both.

Well, EBGames was processing my order for most of yesterday and I checked and it's been shipped already. Hell, the package is somewhere in the city at the moment. But yeah, there's some fumbling going on somewhere, hopefully they clear this up somehow.

Thank god it wasn't released while I was sleeping. I just slept for 12 hours. Yikes.

I don't expect to get my physical copy for at least two weeks :( Since I pre-ordered from Play-Asia. They take longer because first they have to get the game in from overseas to Hong Kong, before shipping it out. But, hey, at least they're reliable.

I haven't been this hyped up for a game in a very long time. The suspense is killing me. ;_;

I get mine today. Tracker says it's en route <3

Oddly enough, it arrived here in Houston, and it's going elsewhere, THEN being delivered back to me o_o I won't ask questions... Just gotta find out when UPS drops by the office here.

Argh.. of course the game is already released on newsgroups. Too bad I don't have any access to it. ;_;

Oh well, only a matter of hours until I touch Gechmir's source for P3 love. Damn, why does touhou 10 and Persona 3 have to come out on the SAME week? :[

Edit: Awesome. It's out. Getting it now. <3

Good to hear that's it out. I've actually got some more outside confirmation that they've found physical copies as well. The prophecy has been fulfilled!

Now I'm just wondering why so many big name online retailers and holding out on shipping.

Same. It's already out for delivery, though UPS usually doesn't drop things off till 4-7ish.

Which makes me burn with generic rage, or at least it would if I Suikoden V hadn't arrived yesterday. All is well with the cosmos at this point, and it'll only get better when the package arrives.

All right! I just got mine and am very excited to jump in. Ha, I felt like such an idiot at the store, because when the dude behind the counter handed it to me, I was all like "Hey, doesn't this come with an art book?" He then pointed into the box containing the game. I had no idea that it was going to be a smaller one and while I was a little disappointed initially by it's size, after looking at it for awhile it's pretty nice regardless. I also didn't know it would be a hardcover, which really pleases me quite a bit.

The Soundtrack CD, not surprisingly, is not the entire OST. Still though, I wish they would have just released the complete soundtrack instead of just 18 tracks.

Anyways, despite these minor gripes, I'm pretty darn happy with the packaging when all is said and done. Though the wait was rather excruciating, I appreciate what Atlus has done to stay loyal to it's fans and they shall remain one of the best game companies out there because of it. Not to mention the quality of the games they put out.

Well, off I go to play!

No luck on my part. My Gamestop has no idea what's going on with shipments. T_T

I hate this waiting game.

Finally got ahold of it. Will try it out any minute now!

EDIT: Check out my new signature~

Just got it! I went out to run errands (and waste time), found out after checking online that it came in a minute or two after I left. Real mad that they left it ON MY FUCKING DOORMAT. Really easily stolen in a spot like that. It was there for half an hour, poor baby ;__; But no matter! Time to play!

My luck has changed!

Only two hours after I last checked whether or not the game was in at my Gamestop, they finally opened the damn box and had it in.

I got my copy now, but I probably won't play it until tonight or something. I can't wait though...

Out of randomness, what's everyone naming their main character?

Emo McHeroson.

I'll go with Minato Arisato, since that's apparently his name in the manga.

I will name him Sora because he represents courage and strength and the lion's spirit that is sleeping in my heart, waiting for me to finally stand up for myself :)

I'll either go with what Jazz said for officalness. Or my own character name, Vincent Kiba.

Well, this is from wikipedia:

He is known in Japanese fandom as Shūjinkō (主人公, Shuujinkou, literally "main character"?). In the Manga version, authored by Sōkabe Shūji , he is named Minato Arisato (有里 湊, Arisato Minato?)

To keep with the theme and flow of the game, I'm going to name him the former, but just "Shuu".

Man, UPS sucks. I showed up at my Gamestop around 1pm hoping to catch the truck right after it arrived. However, they decided to take their time today and not show up with the shipment until 4pm. Glad I had a lot of other errands to run around the mall today.

Alright, I'm now 3 hours into this game.
First impressions are great, the art style and music really fits and are to my liking. The menus are great, controls feel good and battle is fun.

My only worry at the moment is ...

A big thank you for using spoilers so early.

I've decided I'm not going to chew through bricks to get the game via torrent, but wait for my copy to arrive, and then play it. I'm not in a position to be downloading torrents anyway (I have to pay for my upload speed AND my download speed, and to top it all off, it's also capped after 15 gb/month), although if someone could upload it to my ftp or give me a direct download somehow, I definitely appreciate and probably would go for that option.

I'm about 4 hours in and it's awesome. Boo on party members getting sick and a crazy hooray for awesome time management skills! (Or lack thereof)

I tried running this on the PS2 emulator, and it locks up after showing the ATLUS logo and stuff =( Had my hopes up... Now it looks like I won't be able to play it for four weeks after this Tuesday. Sigh...

Anyhow! Two hours in to it and I'm floored. I love this game. The characters, voice acting, humor, gameplay, music, graphics, combat, it's all fantastic. Top-notch. Period.

Got bored and decided to keep my main character's name Japanese to flow well with others. I screwed up and accidentally accepted, but I believe the name is Harima Asado (First, Last respectively). Meh.

This is the first game to draw me in for a few hours in one sitting. Console games are great, but I have the need to get up, check e-mail, etc. I love multitasking, hence why I do computer gaming so much. Anyhow, I played and kept going until nature called. And I figured that was a good stopping point.

A+. $50 well-spent, I must say. I also love how they kept it very Japanese-feeling. ATLUS localizers must love anime, because the honorifics were left in place =) Big plus, since localizing of some nicknames often doesn't work out well. Still, it feels weird to hear an English voice actor refer to Yukari as Yuka-tan. I keep thinking "Yucatan?"

Haha, same here, gave me a lol.

Generally I always choose Japanese voice and English text in my RPGs, because I can't stand English voice actors trying to pronounce Japanese, but I couldn't choose Jap voice in P3 :(

At least the English dub isn't bad though. <.<

It's not as bad as a lot of anime dubs when it comes to Japanese name pronouncing but it's still rather sad anyway. I guess it would bother people more if they changed their names, though, so you just have to deal with it. And yeah, at least the actual dialogue in the dub isn't bad. I'll definitely be trying to get to this game soon, because I have to be prepared for WA5 in less than two weeks. ;(

Sure, it's not Resident Evil, but still.
A student in a very japanese school coming forth saying "SUP DUDE" feels out of place.

Even though the Japanese version of Persona 3 was filled with famous seiyuus, the English version is still pretty good. Here's what I found out from reading the wiki article:

Main character is the same voice actor as Pixy in Ace Combat, Kyle from Suikoden V, Giacomo from Baten Kaitos Origins, Cornelius from Odin Sphere, Serph from Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2, Steve from Rogue Galaxy, Gig from Soul Cradle, Luke from Tales of the Abyss, Derek from Trauma Center..

Yukari's voice actor also did Etna from Disgaea, Elena from Advent Children, Velvet from Odin Sphere, Alicia from Valkyrie Profile 2..

Junpei's voice actor did Alph from Luminous Arc, Edge from Atelier Iris 3, Radolf from Ar Tonelico..

Oh and Aegis' voice actor did the voice for Gwendolyn in Odin Sphere. So, yeah, I don't mind not having an option for Japanese voices in this game at all.

Oh my fucking god. You get internet ='D

I love how it echoes back to P2 ='D Fucking awesome

I'm playing Persona 3 live right now, if anyone cares to watch.
Update: Going to bed now, turning it off.

wow that,s so neat! if only it was more fluid and had sound :\

I'm still waiting on my local stores to receive their shipments. The place I reserved my copy can't give me a solid release date (they won't even check their computers), and Gamestop apparently is just as clueless.

I suppose it kind of works out considering I have to pay an assload for my glasses repair. If I'm presented with an opportunity to buy Persona 3 before Friday, I might just do it.

How's the gameplay, so far? I haven't heard much about the battle mechanics from the denizens of chat.

Enjoying the game more than R&D1's other shit. The big helper is no random battles. It makes the game way more enjoyable. I'm pretty far right now so I guess that's proof of my addiction.

Same here. Just called it quits for the day and my current play time is 11 hrs, 32 mins. Fucking love it, easily one of my favorite battle systems too.

http://static.pici.se/pictures/iiiPhDlYd.jpg

O rly?!

I haven't been spending much time with the MMO but some of the dialog from it is insane. LMAONADE.

I'm only about two hours in.

This game is fucking great! :><:

Regarding Tartarus...

Just started playing as well, everything is cool so far.

The only thing I was annoyed with was the extremely long introduction phase in the beginning. It's basically one hour of dialogue before you even get to wander around on your own.

Tips wanted.

I avoid fights, or keep going. If you're grinding, just leave once two folks are fatigued. If you're hoping to hit a floor-multiple of 5, then dodge monsters =o

Yeah, that fatigue thing is shaping up to be extremely annoying.

It gets a lot better the farther you progress in the game. I just did went up 12 floors (boss progression is like every 10 floors now it seems...) and none of my character got fatigued.

So I finally got my hands on the game and while I don't have much time to play, I'm... so in love with the packaging. Atlus went all-out with this shit.

I mean... a hardcover artbook included? GOOD LORD, I CAME.

The drinks are my favorite part of the translation so far. Some of the descriptions remind me of Working Designs' style.
Aside from how quickly characters become tired in Tartarus, I'm loving this game so far. It's managed to be even more addictive than I thought it would be.

It sure is getting better and better. Now I can clear 5 floors at a time without a party member dozing off. Still, it's a slightly annoying thing. Especially because fatigue seems to be one of the major gameplay elements.

A quick question concerning Personas: The ones I fuse are lost forever, right? I mean, there's absolutely no way of ever getting back the Personas you've lost? If so, that'd be lame. I'm on Tartarus level 15 and still don't feel like giving up my cool Personas only to create cooler ones.

Also, why is the item and equipment management so weird? Say, if you're heading to the police a.k.a. the weapon dealer, why can't you equip your party members right away?

When you get an additional party member, it seems hard to fatigue folks. I just got my fourth and I've been steamrolling through things.

It seems my first attempt at the 2nd part of Tartarus was just bad luck. Word of advice: wait for your fourth party member before trying beyond the first 15 floors. Many enemies beyond that are weak vs thunder, and without the fourth person, you have little chance of killing the critters.

I had to wait for exam week to finish before I could finally start looking through the second area of the dungeon. And thankfully, the experience is quite impressive.

Rock --
I agree, I'd like the ability to manage equipment via one status screen rather than talk to each member. But that's a minor gripe.

Yeah, menue oddities like that have been mentioned in multiple reviews. While baffling it has minimal hinderance on the game. (not that you were complaining to begin with)

So far I'm liking this game more then Devil Summoner. DS wasn't horrible by any means but, it was just *argh* inspiring, that's all I can think to describe it. It was probably because it followed Digital Sevil Saga too.

As I said, fatigue becomes a slight non issue later on, you'll go through many floors before a party member gets tired. Also, you don't lose Personas "permanently" when you fuse them. I forgot what month, either the second or so, you get the compendium and you can "record" the ones you have on you, with all their skills etc and buy them back at a later date. Orpheus, your main persona comes with the book If I remember correctly.

Boy. Wish I did that before I combined two higher leveled ones I had. On well -- only one way to learn =Y

Just made a new Persona 3 sig. I freaking love this game. :)

So what you're saying is that I should wait with fusing until I get that book? I'm on level 15 of the Tartarus and about 7 hours into the game already but I still have yet to fuse because I'm afraid of losing my Persona skills.

Well, the lady in the Velvet room starts giving you quests at some point. And a number of them involve fusing. That's the main reason I looked in to it, really =o But once ya do it one time, you're kinda hooked >_>

See, I'm just afraid of screwing up with the fusing system. Like losing skills that are absolutely crucial to defeating certain enemies. To me it just seems particularly dangerous, especially with the tactical combat system. That's the main reason I haven't bothered with fusing yet, although I guess I'm supposed to by now.

Can you reacquire Personas with the cards you get after a battle? I know that if you already have one they don't stack up. But what happens when you receive a Persona card of a Persona you've already fused into a new one?

I'm pretty sure you'd be able to re-acquire old persona, as long as you don't have it on your person =o

I've fused all the newer ones to make nifty persona and have already re-acquired all the ones I lost.

I should really grind them at some point then save those in the compendium once they have their skills...

It's looking like the wait for that art book was worth it.

Before I (inevitably) go out and buy the game, how is the game length shaping up to be? It seem liked to me (and I could be completely wrong) that the whole game storyline takes place within one school year. Previous experience with games of that type have led me to believe that they're usually short adventures.

I doubt that this is the case with Persona, since you're probably spending all your time in dungeons anyway, but I just wanted to get a pulse from the playing crowd.

I'm about 12hrs in and I've just wrapped up the second month. Plus, unless things change, it seems like I'll need to do a new game (there's a new game+) in order to try out the other athletic clubs. Plus, I think you're timed on joining the academia clubs. I got the academia level to enter one of them and it had a note pretty much saying "you're too late" so I dunno... Either way, these first two months are shortened...:

The overall length is becoming very daunting. Some folks are making mention that it might be as long as Dragon Quest VIII or even VII in order to do everything. And with this dynamic storyline of sorts, I think I can deal with that! :3:

Oh. And for working on Charm, Courage, and Academics, look at this website:
http://www.neoseeker.com/Games/cheat...persona_3.html

It answered some unknowns and gave me some insight in to nice ways to gain those stats =) Hope it helps!

I don't think you should wait. The only real skills you should be worried about at that point are dia, agi and bufu and whatever you fuse at that point will have one or more of those and the floors you're gonna be exploring should have personas with em during the card shuffle. Also, F25 boss or so is when You're gonna start fusing to exploit boss weakness/strengths

Is there a way to control your other character's conditions? One of mines are either sick or tired every other night and its really annoying. I just completed the first full moon event, am I close to getting the fourth character yet?

I've only had a problem with that once, when Junpei stayed sick for 3 days. Otherwise they've recovered pretty quickly for me, so it must be mostly in your luck.

You get the fourth character as soon as exam week is over. The study week before exams was really dull and you typically couldn't go into Tartarus because people are busy.

I didn't get too much time to play last night, but I'm still somewhere decently early in the game...

When you guys joined the athletic clubs, which one did you choose? And which one is the best to roll with?

Personally, I went with swimming. <_<

I chose swimming also but only went to one practice. lol

I went with Kendo. So far I haven't made any Chariot (Kendo) or Strength (Yuko, Kendo team's manager) personas so it hasn't been terribly useful, but I like the people. I didn't observe any others the day they were recruiting, so I don't know what the other people are like.

Does anyone know when academic clubs become available? Like someone mentioned earlier, the Home Economics room has a sign that says something to the effect of "I waited, but you never came. Now I'm gone." Surely that doesn't mean it's out permanently already, right?

Tritoch, I don't know if I should put this in a spoiler tag, but home economics will be usable later, in a turn of events I guess, what the heck I will use spoiler tags to explain it better.

Ah, okay.

Pretty much what he said. Trying to get done what you need to before exam week and the week before it since a lot of your party members will be out studying or sick.

A game like this should make use of the PS2's soft reset feature, come to think of it most games I bought in the past two years don't even use that anymore, wonder why? I can't be the only one who keeps reloading to try different choices.. >_>

Anyway, regarding the Strength and Chariot social links:

Cool, I'm pass that point so it must be safe to focus only on her from now on. :D

For those of ya'll who want to grind, wait until the day before a full moon. Days before full moons are set so that you NEVER wear out. Infinite stamina, so no getting tired =o

I've heard talk of it, tried it, and I'm pretty sure it works! In a few hours, I have grinded most of my personae until they know all their possible skills. Fusion time~

Heh, so it's true? I wondered if it was impossible to become fatigued after I played for a looong time trying to find a Grave Beetle before the first full moon. I'm not much for grinding, but it's nice to know that when trying to beat the Old Document request deadlines.

Also, try to do the quests involving the rare creatures. You get weapons with 100 Attack and 99 Hit. The first one (bow) is nice, but the second (2-h weapon) is even handier. I tried it on my main character but the swing to start fights is too slow as a result. I gave it to Iori and he's doing nicely.

I'll have to work on the bow one next time I go into Tartarus then. I've tried as I see them, but the Wealth Hands I've killed didn't drop the requested item. Coins are nice and all, but I already have around 80,000 yen at the moment.

Out of curiousity, does anyone know how/what level you need to be to fuse Pale Rider? It seemed odd to get the item to unlock him so earlier since I figured he'd be a higher level persona.

That Toy Bow? If that's the case, then whoo! I need to get myself this weapon!

But out of curiosity, I haven't had ANY success hitting those gold enemies. Any advice?

No success in hitting them to start the battle? Just be sure they're facing in a direction where you can approach completely from behind. It's annoying how they run away before you get a single attack in sometimes, though.

If you mean in battle, it -seems- like they randomly have one physical weakness. That's what I've seen with the Treasure and rare hand on the first part, haven't run into Wealth hands yet. As for out of battle, yeah, wait until you get directly behind them, if they even barely see you they'll run away.

Freaking loving this game... Though I started out slow with stats/S. Links, so that's kinda hurting me now =x

My point exactly, which is why I'm asking. <_<

They're always at least a good distance from the wall, when I finally corner it,

*poof!*

It's gone. I kept thinking about hitting it with a bow, but I'm deathly inaccurate with it. <_<

Ugh, I think I'm going to end up failing one of Elizabeth's request because my team can't seem to get it together. The due date (6/8) is approaching and someone's always randomly sick, tired, busy or Mitsuru is MIA. When does the 5th character come in? -_-

All else fails, attempt to do it alone or with whatever meager party you have.

I went up the tower once alone, but that was before I hit the 2nd block.

Okay, so I finally got it last night and popped it in right now. Coming up with a name is tough.

If you're stuck at a deadline, just bring lots of revival items and grind it out the night before the full moon (it'll have a 1 by the moon icon in the upper-right). You NEVER get fatigued.

Mobs have, like, 200° of visual range, whereas gold ones have 300°, I've read. For golds, you have to sit back and watch. I ONLY approach them if I'm following their path precisely. You have to be pretty meticulous and nail them in the back. As a plus, after doing this for a while, you get pretty good about sneaking up on mobs in a timely fashion so you can get a player advantage.

Once in battle, don't waste turns. Order your allies to conserve SP so they will definitely attack. Any magic comes up as "blocked" and does nothing. Their weakness is supposedly random, but I noticed that in the first block, it always seemed to be piercing (bow) that hurt them. Second block I ran in to a couple and it seemed the main character's one-handed sword attacks were their weakness. Maybe just luck of the draw...

It's luck of the draw, It's always a physical type from what I've read though. What I do is hit rush on the attack button so everyone just does their physical attack.

Oooh. I thought Rush was just auto-fight for the main character. I'll remember that, thanks =o

Oooh, I'll probably be running back to finish that request on the first block. I've finally managed to nab the gold one a couple times.

I finally hit the top of the 2nd block earlier, so now I have 10 days to grind my level up for a while. I'll probably finish up a couple of requests also.

Rare gold enemies seem to be weak to criticals, from what I can tell. Try equipping a Persona with high Luck when trying to kill them, I think it may help (though I haven't actually tested this).

I suggest only going to Tartarus during the night before the full moon, and maybe once or twice in the month before it. Since you can do all your grinding at the last minute, it seems best to boost S-Links/social stats during the other days, especially Academics. The only other time you need to go is to get cash (which you probably do a lot early on).

Oh, and if it's the night before the full moon, bring lots of items, especially revival. You can't go to shop, obviously. I almost got screwed over once because I didn't have any items left, but managed to pull it through somehow.

I remember this was asked awhile back indirectly, but I think all S-Links are independent with one another once you've unlocked them. Some S-Links require a certain level of another S-Link, but after that it doesn't matter.

Another thing I noticed earlier, when trying to do quests that require killing monsters for an item, accept the quest first. In some cases the monster won't drop the required item unless you have the quest (gold enemies are like this, which is pretty annoying). This applies to a few "real life" quests as well.

I'm only a couple of hours in but I'm really enjoying the game so far. Nothing really bugs me at all.

There seems to be an undub torrent available but I personally like the English voice acting. Junpei, Mitsuru and Yukari all sound fine to me. Akihiko's okay.. but whatever, can't complain.

Woot, finally got my 5th member. <_<

Haven't advance much since that.

I'm at the 3rd block now. What level should I be at? I'm only level 15...

Also, I don't really have any gripes with the voice actors, but I do agree with Gech on that other character. The 5th doesn't really apply for me.

You're in the 3rd Block at lvl. 15? Man, how'd you beat the skeletal knight boss at that level? I tried him at 17 and had to level up to 20-21 to take him down.

As for the VAs, I agree with Gech. Fuuka is the only one so far to irritate me a bit, but I got used to her.

How do you recommend taking down the Emperor boss on 2nd Block, past midway? He uses wind stuff and hits two-timers pretty often D= I'm around lev 21 and don't wanna try again quite yet. He's the second boss in the 2nd half. Big horseback dude.

Got this game the day it came out (gutted copy but eh, it was in good shape), and I've been hooked ever since I started. I love the blend between being a shadow hunter at night and normal high school student by day. Even though there isn't much exploring to do, there is a nice level of immersion to the world. The music is one of the most interesting aspects I've noted thus far, as it doesn't seem quite what I was expecting, but at the same time has a nice beat to it.

By the way, did anyone else get the official strat guide? I did just because it was by Double Jump books instead of Prima or Brady Games, and because I wanted something that was official so I knew that the Persona fusion tables and such would all be accurate. But man, the actual strategies sometimes seem lacking in terms of the boss strats it advises. For example

Just luck out. I won it through straight out attrition. I was doing most of the healing, Yukari on support and Akihiko was the only one doing any real damage so I just concentrated on keeping him and myself alive and eventually we won out. Goes without saying but bring a persona that's strong/nulls garu skills.

^ Really? I killed her on my first go at her and encountered no problems whatsoever..maybe you're underleveled?

well here what I did, this is evident but don't take junpei for this battle since he is weak vs wind, Yukari is key to win this I'd say, set her tactic in support and she will be of great help to keep everyone healed since the boss does pitiful damage on her. Mitsuru and Akihiko were dealing most of the damage on this boss and all I used besides healing skills (media mainly to heal everyone in one go) when I had an opening to attack was jack brothers skill(jack frost and pyro jack it knocks down all enemies on a chance) to try and knock him down and use an all out attack from time to time, if you and Yukari both use a wind resistant persona or you at least use one that isn't weak to it, it should go fine.

What Tokubetsu said, but also be sure your persona isn't weak to Hama stuff. Twice the boss just used Hama on my main character and ended the battle. If you want to grind all the way to lvl. 25 then you could fuse a Power (strong to Garu, nulls Hama) but I ended up beating him at 23 with someone who was just strong to Garu. Oh, and obviously don't use Jubei. I got lucky in the fight where I won, and the boss kept targetting Yukari with Garula and wasted turns casting Rakukaja on himself.

I haven't had any trouble with the full moon bosses. I've done the first three full moons, and they've all seemed fairly weak.

I constantly use Cadenza. Even though I've out leveled Orpheus a long time ago I constantly keep him around just for that. With the HP restoration and the Evasion Up thing, it works like a charm. :)

But so far, I'm only at level 16. I just beat those three Golden Beetles on floor 47. <.<

Either that, I'm just extremely lucky. The only times I've ever died were against normal enemies, never bosses or level guardians yet. <.<

Question does "Splitting the party = Killing Shadows" Increase my experience too?

I've seriously fall in love with this game, I wonder if the arcade will open up. D=

The less people you have, the less you have to split up the total amount of experience you earn, so yes.

Actually, not really. You're not splitting the EXP four ways, but only one person gets the EXP, so you still get the same amount of EXP. Unless there's some kind of bonus that I'm missing here, at least.

Also, using stuff like Marin Karin usually helps against the Tartarus bosses.

Aww that explains the slow leveling of my party mates, my god Mudo = annoying, I need something to counter that!

Cadenza? It's always worked for me.

I let all my teammates do the attacking. I just sit there and constantly heal them.

I just fused orpheus with someone to get lLilim, so i dont have cadenza, is there any way to unfuse persona fused persona?

You have to buy them back from the Compendium, which you get soon after the first exam week I think. Orpheus comes already registered in it, along with whatever Persona you have at the time.

Fuck, I just realized the headphones are actually available to purchase in real life. As is the main character's mp3 player, which is a 1 gb silver sony walkman. I must now proceed to buy both immediately. :(

The cheapest versions of those headphones/mp3 player I found were these:

Headphones (a lesser model, not the exact pair, but it looks just like the game's ones)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cus...R2G4OK35NFN59N

MP3 player lookalike (no one has been able to find the "exact" player that he wears in the game)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cus...ustomerReviews

Those headphones look fantastic, but a few reader review complained about the bass output. That would make me hesitant to buy them.

So are you people concentrating on S-Links one at a time or are you trying to equally push all your acquaintances? Seeing how little time you actually have to spend, I'm beginning to think I should focus more on the S-Links I really need for my Persona.

I'm wondering if you get more "free" time to spend with friends later in the game. It's essentially one activity per day and then it's evening. Seeing how the day actually has a lot of unused phases, I'm hoping you'll eventually get the chance to do some more stuff in one day.

Currently Level 12, I am on the second part of the tower, Should i grind more before trying to attempt to reach the borderline?

The XP difference is rather large between the first and second blocks, but I STRONGLY recommend that you have someone or something with Zio (electricity). Otherwise, you will get squashed, and *fast*.

To beat Change Relic boss at the end of 2nd Block use Omikon(sp) persona. It's the only one you can use with wind resistance at that point. It may also benefit you to only use Hero and Yukari, because it'll kill the other two members. Just keep yourself healed, debuff the boss and use only physical attacks. Worked for me. :)

I've actually finished off two social links already... I'm done with the Chariot (Swim Team) and the Hierophant (Old Couple) ones. I have one of each in my team, but I haven't spent an exorbitant amount of time fusing Personas.

I've been keeping my social links about the same so far, though somewhat unintentionally. Most are around level 4-5, though I've focused a little more on the Strength and Magician arcanas. Strength because I like the Yuko sequences and Magician because I usually find those personas most useful despite hating Kenji.

Yeah Kenji pisses me off. Shallow prick :mad:

Yeah, they look great, and I might even buy a pair myself, but they specifically state his headphones are these:

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7...1187291hw6.jpg

And the mp3 player is a blue/silver, which looks practically identical to this:

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4...g550x41wt9.jpg

Unfortunately the mp3 player was only released outside of Japan in the color black, so if you want silver, you would have to import. There's a pair of the headphones I just showed on ebay, but they're expensive, and still cheaper if you bought through Y!JP.

In any case I want them both.

Just bought the game yesterday and played it for about 5 or 6 hours straight. It's certainly addicting, but I can't really pinpoint just how much I like it. There are certain times when I think that if it didn't have the amazing amount of style that it did, I'd feel a bit disappointed with it. I don't know if the other Persona games work this way, but I'm struggling to find the point of NOT being able to command your entire team in a turn based game. And I can't really tell yet if the amount of time you have to do things is balanced yet or not. It just seems like the game could be a tad more generous is all.

Besides the amazing art direction of the game, my favorite thing about it has to be that your main character seems to just be dying to be a prick but forces himself to be nice because he knows it benefits his late night monster fighting.

It's easy to forget to save in this game too, at least for me it is. Had some bad luck in battle and all of the sudden I had lost three whole days ;_;

Honestly, I don't know why I'm playing. I can't pick anything out and say "this is really great", but I feel strangely compelled to continue on. It's very odd.

That must mean there's something good about it you like. :)

I'M FINALLY STUCK!

Ok, any tips on that Emperor Boss on floor 59 (or 57... Whatever..)? I know as far not to use Yukari in there since Garu is completely useless against the boss. I'm thinking whether not I should actually grind before I do this battle. God damn level 18.

Look back at posts #158-160 for advice on that boss. He's a tough one, especially with that stupid Hama.

Aye thanks.

And anyone who read that whole 3rd block thing I said on the last page, I didn't realize I was still on the 2nd block. <_<

I assumed every huge staircase with a document went to another block. XP

Anyway, I should remember to use tactics in battles... I completely forgot about them.

Also has anyone noticed the typo on the Persona 3 box? The game calls for 67 MB to save one file on the game.

67 MB. :)

Yea, I noticed the typo too lol.

I'm on Floor 59 boss also, average party level is 15. Anyone else think the 2nd Full Moon event was insanely cool? I hope the game keeps up with the surprises, and I gotta admit, this is by far the most unique RPG I've played on a console yet.

I'm kinda upset with Elizabeth though. Her request for a Valkyrie with Tarukaja ability is a pain. Every persona combination I use to make a Valkyrie turns out with Auto-Tarukaja, which she doesn't recognize.

If you just keep selecting the same personae for the fusion (and one of them has Tarukaja of course), it'll cycle through the spells for Valkyrie until she has Tarukaja. It doesn't work with every spell on every persona though.

So anybody run into the Reaper yet? I retreated so fast after crit'd Junpei for 600. You start hearing chains rattling on the floor, I'd get out of there. (I also wonder if you can beat him later in the game =0 )

I ran into something called Mukon.

Post Moon Phase 2


Just checked GameFAQs, apparantly it was Reaper, aka Death.

I was worried about that shit, so I teleported my ass outta there before it was too late. <.<

Also, does the Reaper look like a normal enemy or it's own little figure on screen?

It has it's own figure from what I saw. It sort of ambushed me so I wasn't able to get a good look at it. My characters were set to shadow hunting mode so they engaged without me. It killed someone faster than I could turn around and jump in. >_>

Haha, I did the same as Chaotic. I hung out right beside the teleporter for a few minutes after Fuuka said she sensed the death on my floor, but he didn't show up and I wasn't going looking for him.

I was a little pissed about the request for a Vetala with Maragi, mostly because Vetala seems to suck so it was a shame wasting personas to create it.

The Reaper requires you to be almost max level with good gear in order to kill him =P He's at the end of the "rare monster" hunting quest-chain.

I know this has been asked far too many times before, but is there like a limit on the ingame days? And no word on mini games?

No time limit. Days progress via events.

No mini-games yet anywhere from what I've seen.

If they included some mini games it would have been fun, I always loved Hanging out in the Casino in persona 1.

And i wonder how to use those stuffs like flowers, Can you give them to girls or what?

Yeah, once you get your social rank high enough with a girl you can give them a gift at the end of a Sunday date with them. It's really annoying though, because it gives you 4 general categories (Flowers, Antiques, something else, and Other) and once you pick one it won't let you go back. I wasted a Jack Frost Doll on accident that way by picking Other, because it wouldn't let me give her nothing either.

Surely there's a mini-game somewhere... This game is just crying out for at least one. I remember the Dyaos shooter in DDS2 was kind of hidden, having to talk to a normal NPC kid and it was only available for a short time.

Finally caved in and bought it myself. The EB Games was calling me!

I haven't gotten into a game this much in a long time. I think the main appeal for me is the insane amount of paths you can take. It'll be awhile (a probably many New Game+s) to get through em all.

Fun times. I have a bit to catch up to with everyone else here but I'm looking forward to it.

And I know that it had been mentioned before, but I was wondering if I had to go out and buy a fancy 64 MB memory card >_>

Well, the game's pretty damn enjoyable so far. I had some serious trouble with the mini-boss on floor #110, mainly because it did that Tetrakarn thing along with it's serious Garudyne walloping (this on a team where I'm resistant against wind and no one else is weak).

So I jumped up to around 40ish and just laid into it with bufu spells. Everything else is either reflected or does pathetic damage. The next place is crazy though, and I'm being rather careful with Samael lest I eat a Hama or two. Seems like it doesn't take very many levels beyond what the shadows are at to get them distressed.

The two main personas I'm using right now are augmented Power and Samael. I'll spoiler tag them if anyone wants. I'm thinking of Succubus (Samael + Leanan Sidhe) since last time I look at the result it managed to get Samael's Mabufu and Zio along with Leanan's Charmdi and Posumudi. I've got quite a ways to go before I can even fuse it though, since I'm at 45 right now.

Please don't spoil it by telling us what the last Floor # is when you reach it. I'm just glad to hear theres over 100. Anyone else getting Parasite Eve nostalgia from Tartarus? The Chrysler building was the first mega dungeon I remember going through, it had around 70-80 floors. Not many people made it to the top.

No problem, I'll be sure to spoiler tag it or simply omit the floor number when that time comes around. Also, seconding that PE feeling along with memories of the tower in the first Dark Cloud game.

Edit: Forgot to mention the shrine. The offertory box there really helps out in bumping your academics. That on top of studying every so often will max it out in no time. Just make sure you give it 1k each day. A question though: Anyone know what the fizzy drink is that Maiko asks for? She's the little girl by the park.

Yeah, I use that offertory box all the time... At the moment, I'm an above average student. I'm working on my Social Link with Bebe... Weird dude...

But what's the warm and soft bread that the girl wants? I can't seem to figure that out either...

only 4 hours into the game and i'm stuck :(
i'm trying to stay in about the same timeline as the strategy guide that i bought, but alas, i'm already behind!
I'm stuck at the first boss :(
any suggestions? lvl 14 boss... ;~;

This is just a guess, since I haven't gotten to that point or found that event yet, but has the lady in the school lobby had an item like that for sale? I remember her mentioning how the bread she has sells out fast or something from when I spoke to her earlier in the game.

well I will answer using tags I guess it's appropiate

Juanzen beat me to answering, haha. I bought every damn drink in town before finding the right one, and just got lucky having the bread already.

I was wondering what that drink was, Thanks Juanzen.

I'm on my last day before the 2nd Full Moon, Currently i have this set of Persona.

Aspara = Level 8
Zouchoten = Level 16
Valkyrie = Level 14
Berth (Something like that) = Level 15
Orpheus = Level 1
Angel = Level 4.

Orpheus is level 1 since i forgot to level it back then, for some unknown reason i always used "Aspara" because of her Ice spells, Worked like a charm in the first block.

Here's my Persona team.

Inugami (Level 14)
Berith (Level 17)
Jack Frost (Level 10)
Zouchouten (Level 18)
Orpheus (Level 10)
Apsaras (Level 5)
Unicorn (Level 11)
Valkyrie (Level 13)
Pyro Jack (Level 10)

My primaries are Inugami, Berith, and Orpheus.

I just beat 59th Floor boss with these Personas.

Inugami 13
Orpheus 4
Apsaras 5
Naga 20
Valkyrie 15
Yomotsu Shikome 12
Pyro Jack 17
Lilim 8

Only reason I have Lilim is because I tried that charm tactic someone on GameFAQs mentioned. It didn't work at all, probably because Lilim's level was too low, or maybe mine was, main character is only level 18. I usually keep Inugami equiped for the Auto-Tarukaja skill, then switch to Naga in battle.

Any special reason why Yukari talks to you in hiragana when she's sick?

I just wrapped up the midterms. I'm still a little pissed you don't get the gift from Mitsuru unless you score top of the class. I would've assumed "pretty good" would've worked.

The difficulty definitely does jump up after reaching the second section of Tartarus. Currently level 11 with Orpheus at level 6 and an Archangel at 15 or some such.

I'm starting to get really frustrated with that Emperor battle... If I must, I will grind to level 23 just to get a Persona that's nulls all Wind attacks. T_T

You're talking about the boss on Floor 59? Try this.

Does Orpheus learn skills even after level 10 or what?

Because my Aspara doesnt have any more skills to learn.

Because i might fuse her into a persona with Bufu and maybe something that would buff the party.

To answer your question, nope. You can see how many skills a Persona will learn by looking at the next level thing and how many question marks are there. Once you've gone through all of those, it won't learn anymore and it'll just level up.

That's why I like fusing them, since they wind up getting skills they normally wouldn't have on top of gaining new ones in their movepool (from both fused personas).

Thanks for the Mad Bull tip, I did what Tritoch did too and it didn't get me anywhere.

Edit: Forgot about something. Personas do learn things afterwards, but they don't appear in that ? list, but rather replace a move. For example Samael's Mudoon turned into Virus Breath, Dominion's Hamaon turned into some slash attack and countless others. You see it happen pretty often after fusions with decent or strong social links. The downside is that you can't see the kind of move you're getting, which is why I restarted after getting Virus Breath. Hits all enemies for 25% of their max HP + poison sounds nice, but at 40 SP, that's pretty expensive.

Has anyone else notice a similar thing?

it seems very easy for me to intercept a gold enemy if i am alone ie: separated the rest of my teammates somewhere else. I am going to try and see if the auto intercept works as well.

It depends on the angle, not number of people. To get a gold, you have to approach from almost DIRECTLY BEHIND the enemy. Other mobs don't react fast and you can get them from the front and surprise them still. I've done that once with a gold, but I wouldn't recommend the method.

Number of people won't matter. Besides, it'd hedge your odds for killing the thing since they enjoy running.

Gechmir's on the money. Once in a while in the fourth block I'll get a floor with "more enemies than normal". The difference between this one and the others is that the floor is populated with a ton of gold Opulent Hands and briefcases all over the place. Your safest bet is to stay quite a ways off from them if they're facing you and when they turn around be sure to stay behind them or they'll bolt for sure.

I managed to kill 9 or 10 of them like this, so it definitely works.

Edit: Oh, forgot to mention that I use the 1h sword since it's got some damn nice range and it's fast.

Oh, when that happened to me, my sense of getting behind them absolutely sucked. If you're really unsure about getting behind them, use a Bow or something. Just remember you have to be in range for attacking, but you don't have to be directly behind them anyway. Just make sure, though, that your characters have all the available physical attacks.

[edit] Yay! Finally beat the the boss on level 59!!

Well, saying that shit has happened since the last time I posted would be an understatement. I've got to warn you all about the bastard on floor #135. I'm several bosses (Tartarus bosses) past him right now, but the battle is still fresh in my mind.



Here's something that put a smile on my face. It's a Tartarus Floor Spoiler so beware:

In every screenshot I see of this game the environment looks exactly the same. Is it actually like that while you're playing through, or is there a decent amount of variation? (I suppose since it's set in a school there's not the standard fire, ice, desert, etc., RPG areas...)

Arg! I HATE this game's full moon nights at times! Lost to the stupid second full moon night battle (and it was going well too, the f'ers got a lucky string of hits in on my character!) and now I have to go through all the text and crap again. So freaking annoying that this game doesn't allow one to skip story scenes with the Start button or something. Sorry needed to vent, while I yep you guessed it, am going through all the events that I'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH ONCE BEFORE!:mad:

I think there's an option in the menu to skip through text based events.

Holy crap, if that's in there, I'm gonna /forehead slap myself for not seeing it when I originally turned off the vibration option. Thanks for the tipoff!

Ahh, so there's that "main character dies = instant game over" that the SMT series is famous for...this is my first SMT game so that was pleasant surprise, especially since it came during a generic battle which I had the Player Advantage in =/

Better I learn that lesson now than during an intense boss battle without saving ^^; Apparently us Final Fantasy folks have been having it too good for too long!

In any case, I'm coming close to that 59th level boss everyone seems to have had a tough time with. I haven't had any hiccups with the bosses yet, mainly because I've been grinding quite a bit. I didn't know about the day before full moon stamina bonus though, I had actually avoided fighting on the day before a full moon so I wouldn't be tired going into that boss battle.

Oh the things you learn from boards!

...hold triangle.

Thats whats so great about the Full Moon events, the thrill of actually losing!

I've actually been disappointed by the full moon events so far. I've beaten up to Hermit so far, and they've all been really easy compared to the Tartarus guardians. It's nice not having to worry about sitting through all of that dialogue again, but I'd still prefer a bit of a challenge.

I'm just about 3 days away from getting to the next full moon event, but in a lack of actual training, I decided to shrug off going to Tartarus for that stupid Swimming Tournament. <_<

So I'm basically bum rushing everything until I can get the fourth document.

What level is the fourth document on? :><:

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to handle SP usage? The SP recovery items don't seem to be prevalent and (at least so far) you can't buy em, so I'm commonly running into problems with members running out of SP and therefore unable to exploit most weaknesses, which means I'll have to retreat to the main floor (for a free recovery) and retrace my steps (annoying if I've gone far) or just escape from every enemy I meet until I get to a guardian floor.

It's not the biggest issue I guess (since escaping doesn't take away from stamina, it seems) but just an annoyance. And I'm sure there's some Persona out there that has SP siphoning skills, but that doesn't help my other members that much =/

Rush on enemies you know you can defeat regardless of knowing their weakness? I have problems conserving SP, but it's never been a huge deal to me.

Yup, that's what I do. If I know the enemy is weak enough, I just rush. That and weakness exploitation is crucial since you make the most of what little SP you have.

I have to echo Tritoch's sentiments on the full moon bosses. After getting used to the bastards in Tartarus, the big shadows were just pushovers. Though the one I just finished offing (Floor #211) was kind of boring too, aside from Megidola and Megidolaon. The ones just before him were pretty lackluster too.

Is that really it? I had looked in the config menu and only saw the auto advance for voiced text, which would have only been partially helpful. Since I managed to beat the boss battle the second time with them only getting two hits in on me, I guess I won't be able to try it out until the next time I manage to lose on a full moon night, but thank you! :)

I see no mention of that functionality in the manual, and don't remember the game mentioning it either, so it is supposed to be some kinda of hidden feature?

Also, I slipped up on the first full moon boss only because I didn't know what to expect. After I learned her pattern from my first loss, I completely stomped her down the second time. The second full moon battle only got me because that darn emperor decided to do his "I'll hit your party for almost more hp than your max!" attack right before I was about to take out the Empress (and he wasn't far behind her in terms of remaning hp), so he basically got lucky since the empress did her full party magic attack first to take off just enough hp from my main character for him to not be at full and thus his follow up attack got me.

Yeah, and actually learning how to use and time rush gives you a reasonable level of control over the other characters in battle and is the only real way to control SP consumption (they still use SP even if commanded to conserve). Just check the order of attacks and keep track of who's turn it is. You can toggle on and off rush to force someone to use a physical attack rather than blowing SP.

Anyway,

I have a question if someone is able to answer it. I'm trying to avoid reading any FAQs so it's why I'm asking here. I'm going to put the question in spoilers as not to risk spoiling anything for some people. It's a very minor spoiler regarding the first term finals.

I don't think it's a hidden feature. You hold down triangle and it breezes through text.

I wouldn't use it unless you already know the conversation though. P3's dialogue is too valuable to skip through.

Question about the culture festival:

Are you sure it wasn't a screen shot from Persona 3 Fes?

Oh was browsing gamefaqs earlier, Loved how everyone was bitching bout the american VA.

On that note, did anyone try the undub version?

The voice acting hasn't really bothered me too much in this game... The voices seem to suit everyone really well.

Although for battle scenarios, I wish they would've added a couple more lines. It annoyed me during that Hierophant Guardian when Aigis would keep saying, "When you fall, get right back up" every time she was hit by a Zio attack.

Same, if there ever was a voice that ever bothered me, it was Junpei.

Oh man my weapons are just bought from the store, hence lol damage.

Anyway after 2nd moon, most enemies in tartatrus will be weak to ZIO huh?

Some... But it's good to know against Hulk Hogan up there. <_<

Did anyone notice a girl sitting/lying around outside of the dorm?

Its not actually creepy, but its kinda disturbing seeing someone just sitting there, o dark hour u.

It might be one of those Apathy Syndrome guys. There's a few around town, too.

Localization messed up and forgot to remove it. There is another instance of that as well (doesn't involve Yukari though)

Ah, well I just figured it would've been mentioned in the manual on the controls explanation page at the very least since I would've never thought to do that. If that's something that's usually found in SMT games, I must've forgotten because it's been at least two years since I touched DDS.

But I agree about the text. The first time I went through the dialog screens prior to the second full moon battle, it was some great stuff.

Yep, they pop in and out with the moon cycles.

No problems with the voices for me. I'm actually impressed at the quality. That might be a reach for some people, but I'm liking it.

Is there any good high-res art from this game? Preferably like something from the first op, or for example, Elixir's sig/avatar.

In other news, I seriously can't wait for level 56. God i have too much fun with this game :o

I have reached the oh so cursed floor 59, I tried fighting the damn boss, with only Mitsuru and Yukari, failed so bad, although i did considerable damage!

ONE MORE TIME!

I hate the fact I forget to save.



Anyway, should I bother keeping my team even? When I get Konomaru, he's at level 34, I'm only level 29 and my lowest level, Junpei, is at level 21. I'm just wondering if I should go out of the way to keep my whole team even.

Is it worth it?

Oh Fuck you hanged man.



I'm going to go grind until i have Ma?dyne spells. See you in 5 years.

Akihiko is starting to piss me off. For the last several floors, he's been using Zio instead of Mazio. My other characters always use their Ma- spells but he stopped for some reason. I encounter alot of enemies that are weak to electric and he's wasting precious time by use single target spells. Anyone know how to counter-prevent this? He's set to Act Freely (like everyone else), not Conserve SP. When he is set to Conserve SP he just kills himself by spamming Sonic Punch.

Have you tried setting him to Knock Down on the enemies that are weak against electric attacks? I haven't been able to experiment with it myself, so I don't know how that affects their skill use.

I'd say yes, especially considering how easy it is to drag characters up to where you need them to be. You'll wind up with them leveling up after almost every battle if you take them to the highest floors you've reached so far.

That way if a boss or area leans towards one type of attack or weakness, you can have them ready to use. Plus, the enemies aren't shy about ripping you several new asses via a team member's weakness.

Koromaru is awesome.

About Akihiko, if you set him to Knock Down, he'll either use Zio/nga/dyne on each enemy weak against it or Mazio/ng/dyne. As far as I've seen, he does the former more often, though I wonder if it's because he goes for the strongest spell (He's a level or two away from getting Maziodyne).

The game's been piling on the crazy, but I've got a question:

Anyone know in what block are the Nata Taishi cards are dropped? Those and Mithra cards.

I'll probably keep Konomaru as a permanent member of my team.

He's just that awesome.

But I think for now, I'll bum rush to the 5th document then grind for a couple levels until Junpei hits 30.

Konomaru has been a member since he came and is now 55. He's the best on my team, absolutly.

Like a good dog he always knows when to do Mudo/Mamudo/Agidyne/a critical hit. If i ever get a dog, i'm naming it kono in hope that it will somehow inherit the pure burning awesome that is Koromaru.

Totally better than 'hey the main character has less than 30% hp let me use Garudyne instead of healing him' Yukari and 'wait, wait, wait, wait' Aigis.

Aigis, i wish you had magic :(

Thanks for spoiling my anticipation. =/

Don't worry much about it. She's awesomely strong anyway. The only problem is fighting mobs that block physical attacks, which are few.

Well, technically she does have magic, it's just nothing but support buffs. In situations where she can do nothing but wait most of the time, just set her to support and she'll toss around defense/attack/evasion boosts and whatever healing items you've got.

Koromaru is pretty awesome and he'd be even better if he had healing skills, but I've got other folks for that. Not to mention his immunity to fire and mudo skills, the latter of which makes facing insta-kill bastards that much easier.

Speaking of items, can your characters ever run out? Back when I still used Junpei he used alot of healing items, and I was worried about them going to waste.

It doesn't seem that way. I know for sure that they're definitely not taking for the inventory stock since the first time Junpei used an item, I was like "wtf, don't use my items without asking".

Turned out when I went to the Pharmacy, I didn't even have any at all. Apparently he's making his own supply.

In any case, throughout the many grinds that I've been doing, he's used healing items many times. His SP-free healing is one of the main reasons he's sticking around (for now).

That is so true! That idiot Yukari caused me to lose the full moon battle against the hierophant the first time because she thought it would be a good idea to keep attacking the boss instead of healing anyone, never mind the fact that she wasn't smart enough to think "Gee the entire party except me has a fear status, shouldn't I use one of those gems to remove it?"

I'm beginning think this game has something against me where it wants me to lose every single one of the full moon battles once...

EDIT: Just saw the mention of items and how other characters use them. I never knew that all each had their own stash, I thought it was all shared. Interesting, well I guess I can't hold my second complaint against Yukari on that one then.

If you want a character to prioritize healing/buffing over attack just set them to Heal/Support and they'll heal/buff until everyone's HP are full. Only then will they attack the enemy, or wait.

I finally reached the top of the tower today, definitely happy to have gotten up there. This seems to have a triggered something, since there's now huge gold and white double doors in the lobby. I'm guessing it's a secret dungeon since there was a new block in there along with level 98 monsters.

Either way, looks like a bit of celebratory grinding is in order for reaching the top.

I'm intrigued, how much do you play the game Metal Sphere? I've always been curious about how the game length actually shapes up to be, and just wanted to see what it took to get to the to.

Just want to see if I should devote a couple more hours in the day (or just grind less) to get the game finished in a reasonable amount of time (day-wise that is...I don't want to have to split gaming time among a number of games).

I've been hammering the game, actually. If it helps any, here's the save I made right after reaching the top:
And that wasn't without some difficulty, the enemies in that last block are in the low to mid 70s. Hell, somewhere between floor #220 and #228 there's two level 89 enemies which spooked me.

Oh, one good way of knowing how far along you are in the game is by looking at your SEES Social Link rank. What I'm not sure of is whether your choice at a major turning point affects the length of the game.

Damn, Metal Sphere. You weren't kidding about that boss on floor #135.

Yeah, I definitely had to point out what a bastard he is.

True, but the issue I had was twofold. First that boss used it's attack to instill fear on the entire party which worked on everyone but Yukari. Since I didn't have control of my character, I couldn't change her tactics.

Second, I have often gotten healed by Junpei using an item on me when my hp have been going low, and that's with him set to Act Freely. Since Yukari has healing spells, I had kinda hoped she would've done the same in that instance. As it stood, I basically got to watch myself get annihilated since the battle had been progressing well, thus I had no reason to let up on the damage everyone was doing since I decided to play support with the healing, as well as the boss had 1/3 or fewer HP remaining.

Quick question about Persona 3. How is the pacing of the story? I rented the game for a day and only got to the 15th floor. Nothing much really happened in terms of storyline. So, I really have no idea if the story is any good or not.

I personally love the story, but I was pretty much hooked from the start, and have been ever since. It moves along pretty nicely, and so far I've only hit one kinda dead spot where there wasn't much happening in the story, I had gone as far up in Tarturus as it would allow me too, and the shadows on those floors were a pushover. I even had a healthy amount of money after spending only a amount of short time in there, and thus I was kinda passing time trying to up my other stats as well as social links since the main story was at a standstill for that period of time. But that's the good part about it, even when the main story was a little stalled, I didn't feel like all that there was to do was grind out money and experience points.

I'd definitely recommend getting the game if you enjoyed what you played while you rented it.

This used to really irritate me, but I've gotten over it by making sure to prepare for the worst by setting tactics at the start of the boss fight in anticipation for anything the baddie tosses my way.

This happened enough times that even with them set to Heal/Support, I make sure to heal myself come the next turn after a particularly brutal assault. While a good bit of the time they pull through, they choose the worst times to deviate from that. That way, I get healed and they can focus on someone else.

Edit: Ah, forgot to mention that after a certain event, the story's pace picks up quite a bit.

I imagine many people are farther than I am at the moment, so it's probably not surprising or news to you, but I just love this.

The problem is there are some bosses that doesnt have any weakness, good example is the guardian on 59th floor, Having a hard time against him.

Do Block Sections only unlock once after a full moon? After Block 3 opened I went through the first section on the first night. Now I'm kinda bored.. Am I stuck playing with trash mobs until the next full moon?

I wasn't too far into the game and decided due to my inefficient use of time towards boosting my academics, charm, and courage, I could stand to start again from the beginning. My first real night in Tartarus, climbed up to 5 and warped back down. Everyone was tired by then but I had some additional goals. I wanted to hit level five so I could make a Nekomata, I wanted to build up enough yen so I'd be funded for the week's donations and karaoke, and I wanted to leave with Orpheus, Nekomata, Pixie, Apsaras and Angel. One problem I'm having and one odd thing I've encountered.

It seems like the only way to obtain Angel right now is to fuse Orpheus and Apsaras. I've had no luck seeing a single Angel tarot; I suspect they do not drop until after the fifth floor. I'd like not to lose Orpheus but it wouldn't be the biggest blow as Nekomata has agi and better stats for the most part. Thing I'm worried about is, do I need Orpheus with me by the time I have access to the compendium for him to be in it? Will he be at his default level or the one he was at when I fused him? And are there any story or bonus consequences to not retaining the original? For example, in Nocturne, if you kept the Pixie you get early in the game to a late point, there was a certain door you'd be able to open, if not, you were out of luck. Anything like that?

The odd thing I encountered was at a certain point, there were no access points for two floors in a row. I'm sure of it, it was a small area that I went over like mad looking for it. I have not come across that in this game until now. I don't know if it was because of how many times I had already entered and warped down to ground level, because I've done it a lot in this single run, or what. It's bizarre and kind of fear instilling to think that, when I need one the most, I could possibly be searching in futility.

Only when you get the call from Elizabeth, which is only after the full moon events. So yes essentially you are stuck playing with trash mobs.

Based on what seems to be a common "strategy":
Agilao Agilao Agilao Tarunda Tarunda Tarunda (whenever it buffs itself), etc.

No real strategy... just use the strongest spell you have + heal up + hope you don't get hama'd + carry revival beads + use a Persona that doesn't get raped by Wind. Beware of the reflection too, so at some point you might want to just switch into healing mode and let your party get themselves murdered by attacking it instead of you. At least you can revive your party members.

Popular Persona that seem to be used a lot: Sati (Agilao), Fortuna (Wind Resist + Dodge Wind), Oberon, Lilim (Marin Karin), Legion (Sexy Dance), Principality (Media)...

Orpheus will be at Level 1 in the Compendium (actually, I believe all Persona are at their original level in the Compendium until you register their new information) regardless of whether you have access to it yet or not.

Access Points are random and not necessarily always on a floor. You will learn to love them when you find them.

I had Angel before the end of floor 5, but that took a really long time of fighting to find one. The game likes to shove Pixies down your throat and sometimes Apsaras in that area.

Probably the only good thing about keeping Orpheus around is for his Cadenza ability he has with Apsaras. It raises evasion and restores 50% of your HP. Really helpful in those tight spots, but later on, the SP price will be steep.

AFAIK, when you're first able to access the compendium any Personas you have on you at the time will be already registered, with Orpheus as default. From then on you have to register them to get them in there for future use. Orpheus isn't really all that important, and I haven't seen anything that you'd miss out on if you don't have him.

Most of the bosses don't have weaknesses. Hell, when you scan them all you get is their name most of the time, with the scan person saying nada. Basically you have to figure out what does the most damage to them (because even though the scan data shows nothing, some spells are more effective than others) and hit them with it.

Whenever I fuse or find Personae they are automatically registered in the Compendium at their default levels and skills (i.e. Lv8 Lilim, Lv12 Legion, etc). However if I want the Persona I just created to be called upon in the future with how I created it then I have to re-register it.

Useful if I want to save a certain Persona with a powerful Fertilized Item or with a certain move set that took quite a while to get to appear.

(Say for example I fuse a Lilim. By default Lilim is Lv 8 with Marin Karin, Agi, Zio. However the Lilim I fuse has Marin Karin, Agi, Zio, Bufu, Garu and as a result it levels up to add Rakukaja, Mudo, and Mazio. Rather than having to try to create this particular four-element Lilim over and over again and grind it, I can simply register it into the Persona Compendium to call upon it when I need it.)

Yeah, I think by the point you can get Media on a Persona, you're probably safe to get rid of Orpheus. I do remember that Cadenza was useful during one boss battle, but it required also having Apsaras in tow, which you're probably unlikely to do once you get better Persona. The ability Media will give you good enough party healing for a much better price anyway.

In any case, I only kept Orpheus around until I got Pyro Jack. He had the Agi and Maragi that Orpheus had, but with a better Magic rating. Orpheus has been long fused away now.

Basically, get in the habit of registering your Personas, since some are the result of your grinding and fusing others and some are a simply a chore to get from shuffles. Sure it costs a bit, but you wind up making a decent chunk of change while grinding anyway.

BTW, looks like you also made yourself an elemental Lillim just like I had way back. I tried to do the same with Loki but the bastard wouldn't pick up Agidyne. Still, fusing is awesome. I'll tryto get Null Light on as many of the higher level dark personas as possible, just to toss the Hama weakness out.

As good as the battle system is, I hope I'm not the only one enjoying the high school sim aspect a lot more than the fighting aspects. This game just has a unexplainable level of charm drawing me in exemplified by the event at the very start of summer break:



The social link situations are also all worth pursuing. None of the content in them has had me thinking they were overly stupid, illogical, boring, pointless, cheesy, etc.

Even The Fat Kid? I ignored him once and never saw the poor blob again.

Yeah, getting the Persona the right way you want and then re-registering them in the Compendium is so great.

Not only do you keep updated records on them to save you the trouble of having to deal with that crap again, but you can easily get rid of and add in various Persona at your whim for those 50% bonuses when you are doing social links (although you have to be able to afford the Persona's cost).

I might make an elemental Narcissus just to be able to hit all at once.

Oh yeah, when you have a Persona of an arcana that matches a social link, it's basically easier to get to the next level. Of course, I wish it removed or reduced the number of instances where you get:

Or something to that effect, though usually after one or two of those you don't get anymore. Anyone completed the Sun social link? Man, that caught me off guard.

If I didn't like the school aspects of the game, the game would lose quite a bit of it's charm and appeal to me. I let out a nice "OH LAWD" (in a good way) when I read the part about your relationships in during the day affecting your Persona's power.

Lacerta, I've yet to get my very own Narcissus as I always opted for either money or experience in the shuffles, and when I saw him as a result I always chose something else. Now I find out I need it for one of those ultimate Personas (I think it's a Cross or Pentagon fusion, it's one of those).

Edit: Forgot one VERY important thing with regards to the compendium. The stat boosts you gave your Personas are saved as well, so you'll not only have them to pass on their skills but their stats as well.

Your friendship may become stronger soon just means you didn't have enough points to hit the next level at that current meeting.

I guess with some clever manipulations (promising to meet someone when they call you at night gives a boost to social links if you have the Persona of the Arcana they represent, going to Tartarus sometimes so that you don't get a reverse or nagged by someone) and present giving you could do it though.

Narcissus is required for a particular unique Death fusion, which in turn is fused with the rest of the lot to create the "ultimate" Death Persona. Although there are those that value the "second ultimate" Death Persona more than the "ultimate". I think it's the "Die for Me!" skill in combination with "Mudo Booster" that they appreciate about it.

Although Narcissus is damn well useful in itself. The fertilized item it has makes you immune to Charm. Then again depending on when you get it, might not even need it anymore.

There's one thing about the process of Persona fusing that's been really bothering me: You're basically lost if you don't use a fusing guide or note down combinations on your own. Just why is it that the game can't provide you with a list of recipes?

I don't want to resort to GameFAQs just to find out how to fuse that certain type of Persona I require to beat a certain boss. Experimenting isn't an option and trying a sheer infinite amount of combinations takes ages.

I don't know, but the entire fusing business still doesn't sit right with me. That's a shame, especially since it seems to be a central aspect of the game.

Ah, thanks for that clarfication. It would definitely explain why after gaining 2 or 3 levels, I'd get one of those. The Sun social link was easy as piss, with none of those popping up for me, though it's possible I was just picking the best answer (there was that one time though).

Ooh, now that's pretty slick. I still remember when that buttmunch Kenji went reverse on me after I accepted and then took another meeting over his. I fixed it and then it went reverse after a I neglected him for a while.
Gah, completely forgot about those items. I haven't tried it yet, but I think if they level up due to the social link's exp, it might be an easier way of getting those items. Oh, one of the ultimate Death persona's skills is of interest to me and he's integral the creation of somthing that carries a real nice item.

How many combination moves have you discovered so far? Unfortunately for me, all I've got is Jack Brothers and Cadenza since I constantly fuse my buddies.

Well, about that boss thing. The blocks usually dole out cards that would be of help in the coming boss battles, even if you have to switch from one to the other during the battle. Hell, I think you can do the entire game without once fusing Personas if you just swap in the new cards you see as you ascend the tower.

I agree that an in-game list of combinations that make so-and-so would be helpful.

For the fusions that require four or more Personas, the game literally tells you which ones you need. What it doesn't tell you is what the result will be, just that that it's guaranteed to be that every time you fuse that particular group.

I actually save then do some experimentation and write down the results. Personally it's a nice throw-back for me and allows for some discovery rather than just going through the motions and getting the results you were after. The fusion system is daunting at first but if you spend some time messing around with it I think you'd pick up how fusion and inheritance works as there is a logic to it based on their type. An in-game fusion history would be good though.

My major problem is remembering what skills do what. Most of the skills are basically romajinized Japanese/Chinese so the names themselves are not descriptive for most English speakers AND you can't even see the skill descriptions until you actually get into battle and equip the Persona.

Speaking of which, has anyone come across a good skills list for the English version of the game?

While I've figured out the elemental spells and the Megido ones a while ago, the kaja/kuja/jaku/whateverthehell buffs always have me guessing until I look at the description.

Basically, I whip out the manual while I'm fusing folks to avoid allowing a particular buff from being inherited.

No, not really. I mean, it's not like you're obligated to fuse Personas in the first place. And besides, you wouldn't want to do so unless you had a decent Social Link to do so. Sometimes it's better to fuse two together otherwise they're just sitting around, doing nothing.

Also there isn't enough Metis fan art.

Metis? The only times I've seen that mentioned are by that Kouli guy in his Fes section, which got me curious to see just what we missed out on.

Though after reading up on it, Fes definitely should've been the original version of the game.

This game's fusing combinations feel a lot simpler than SMT: Nocturne's fusions, so I haven't really found it complicated at all. Now that game required a fusion chart near the end if you wanted some of the specific powerful demons. It seems like Persona tends to give a lot of the same results for each level range, so it hasn't been hard to figure out possibilities.



...That being said, does anyone know a fusion combination or the correct floor range to find Nigi Mitamas and Mithras?

Yeah, Metis is Aegis' sister apparently. I really like the appearance.

I really hope they translate Fes. Even if a translation group that wasn't Atlus did it, it'd still be worth it. Hell, the undub was out within one day of it's release. What are the odds?

I am really tempted to order the headphones as well..

Yeah, the game mentioned something about sisters so her being in Fes isn't all that strange. I'm not holding out much hope for Fes, so I'll just be content with what we've got.

Though I wonder how much fan art will pop up for a character who appears in on an append disc.

You know there's a stand alone version of Fes?

For the append disc, it doesn't even need memory data. Just a copy of Persona 3 (switching technique) if you want to load New Game+

News to me. That tidbit makes me wonder why they didn't just delay the game so they could sell the version with more content and the artbook. My guess is probably deadlines/no interest in bringing it over. About the fanart, I guess it just hinges on how many folks think the extra stuff is worth another purchase (be it the append disc or the stand alone).

*yawn*

Atlus claimed when they were working on Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 that they did not know about FES, and when FES was announced they were too far deep into it to just drop it and work for that.

It's no skin off my back if FES does or does not come to US shores. The true ending of the game is somewhat worth it, and those 20 something extra Persona are kind of neat (although the giant penis is kind of disturbing), along with new things that open up and costumes... but eh. It's not something I'd strive for.

If FES did come out it would probably be in a standalone version, so that we get to double dip while other people can possibly get into it without having to hunt down a copy of Persona 3.

I was amused though that FES is a giant "Fuck You" to various Persona 3 grinders, since they changed a lot of things to taking up your entire day instead of not touching the time at all.

No more max Social Links & Stats on the first playthrough~

Is that the giant green penis in a chariot with a dozen tentacles sprouting from the scrotum? A friend of mine got that as the secret character in one of those One Coin SMT figurine series recently, and damn that was freakish. I think it was called Mara.

As for Fes, I'd buy it if they brought it over. Normally I wouldn't be willing to do a second run-through on an RPG this long, but it sounds like there's more than enough new content to warrant it.

Wait, how do you even "grind" your Social Links? I was under the impression that you're limited to meeting a single person per day, so how can you max out your Social Links faster on a second playthrough?

Yes, it would be Mara.

It is both awesome and disturbing at the same time.

EDIT: Although now that I think about it... I guess the social link endings they added for FES would make it worth a purchase, aside from Episode Aegis.

I'd get FES. All the extras seem interesting enough. And with 30+ hours of gameplay? I'd be willing to dedicate my time into it again, I've already done 30+ hours on P3.

After looking at what exactly Episode Aegis is, I'd definitely buy it. That's actually pretty damn cool.

What's this (Element) Break bullsnot the Tartarus bosses are using now? It neutralizes your resistance to their element so they can 1 shot you within the next 2 turns. I start the battle with a Persona that has STR/NUL stat against the bosses specific spells, but they go and make that worthless after the battle's been going on for 10 minutes.. Then they kill me and I have to start over.

Not many bosses use that, but if they use it, switch in a Persona with Dekunda or use a Dekunda gem to negate those changes to your party.

Edit: Heh, finally managed to get Thanatos and without too much trouble, I got Die for Me! and Null Light on him. The Social Link was maxed so all I have to do is level him up once to get the 1H sword master skill, and if that wasn't enough, I got a peek at that level 90 Persona.

Can someone help me out here? My copy is still sealed, and I don't want to open it right now. However, I'm tagging the US soundtrack, which I've done by taking the tracks from the JP soundtrack and tagging them if they sound identical.

I'm missing tracks 14, 15, 17, and 18. I couldn't find a tracklist of the US partial OST anywhere, so, maybe someone could tell me what the tracks are as described in your manual? I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

• 14. Memories of the City
• 15. Battle Hymn of the Soul
• 17. Enduring Bonds
• 18. Kimi no Kioku

Just finished the game, and I have a few things to say:

- Aigis is pretty cool.
- I HATE one particular part of the final battle.

You're in for a treat, folks.

Thanks much. <3

A pity that school just started, I must have more time to finish this game X_X.

This is one of the best games I've played in a while. I'm up to level 88 at January 6. I think my current personas I carry with me is,Melchizekdek,Metatron,Lucifer,Satan,Thanatos,At tis, Susano-o and Baalzibub. I got to floor 254 at lvl 71 I think. Then I just went to monad with Thanatos and used Die for me! on anything that didn't have repel dark. I think I gained at least one level per fight. I know if you get the 10 of wands you get around 20k experience from most of the enemies there.

You can also use Samsara from fusing Diasoujou with something to get Horus

Horus is one of my favorite persona because it also comes with Diarahan. Essential for anything.

In the upper 80's your xp drops in half in monad. If anything, keep away from samurai, tanks, the mage things, the castles and the large, sword holding statues. They all suck until you get Victory Cry.

I'm just curious. After you get Koromaru and company after that, are those random encounters of Death supposed to happen?

I could just be standing there for three seconds and then Fukka says, "I sense death!"

Is this supposed to be happening, or is Death still after me for a time I didn't encounter him?

Is it a special floor or just a regular one?

On special floors (anything other than normal floors or the floor after a boss) Death appears in less than 2 minutes.

Even if you are in battle the invisible timer is still ticking.

I'm level 29 now, just finished 3rd moon phase.

Anyway anyone wanna tell me how to get a date with the girls, i heard you need to build up your skills if so, please help.

You need to max the corresponding stat to date the girls (Academics to Mitsuru, Charm to Yukari, and Courage to Fuuka).

Stats are raised in all sorts of ways. Studying before going to sleep, drinking coffee, doing karaoke.

Finished this today. What an amazing game, definitely one of the best console RPGs of this generation (the best, in my opinion; way superior to Final Fantasy XII). Great localization too, and the voice acting was actually better than in the Japanese original, from the clips I've seen on YouTube (especially Aigis's gradually disappearing 'synthesised' voice effect).

I know that, wishful thinking aside, there's pretty much no chance of Fes ever coming outside of Japan, but if it did, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Or maybe I'll just download the Japanese ISO. Hell, I already want to replay it on New Game+, and I've virtually never wanted to restart a game right after finishing it, before.

Makes me regret that I never completed Persona 2 (I actually dropped it right after the first boss, for god knows what reason). At any rate, now I have to at least check out the other Megami Tensei games on PS2.

I heard FES actually lets you import your saved data from the original Persona 3 as a New Game+; which is great since most re-releases make you start over. Anyone else tired of companies making all these special/deluxe/substance/international/etc editions after you already bought the original? It always make me feel like I got the half-assed version now I gotta pay full price again for an upgrade..

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed (or enjoyed) this steady slide. Hell, even without the voice, her comments and whatnot reflected this too.

It's been said before, but the shrine thing is a good way to bump up academics along with staying awake in class/paying attention to the teachers/studying at night in class. It's probably the easiest one to boost, though to get a date with Mitsuru, max academics alone isn't enough. You've got to top ace the exams.

Well, given Persona 3's success, I wouldn't rule FES as an impossibility. ATLUS has showed an abnormal dedication to this series, and they might very well push for its release. But isn't it a smaller game, ie: expansion? Would they sell it for $20-$30 as opposed to the usual pricetag?

Getting ahead of myself, but still. Trying to be positive :3 Aard, I'm still a ways off from beating it thanks to intervention due to work... But what did you clock at in the end (how long did it take you to beat it)?

Uh.. that's because they created it. It's also the third most popular RPG series in Japan.

It seems like Atlus have no intention of releasing FES in English. I'm not going to hold out hope for it either. People don't even know Persona 3 exists. Then an expansion pops up and people go "wtf.", find out they need the original game in order for it to play, and say "forget that.". Unless they release the standalone version of FES, which would defeat the purpose of Persona 3 existing entirely.

Basically, they would have to release it as the append disc, forcing people to purchase the original, on top of the price being something like $20, and ~30 hours+ of dialogue to translate.. and for the amount of $20's they're going to be selling. It's financially not worth it.

I'm not really sure. I had 105 hours on my last save file, but it's not accurate because there were a bunch of times when I couldn't be bothered to go to a savepoint, so I just left the game on overnight or for the better part of a day. The actual time should've probably been closer to 60 hours, plus about ten more hours of unsaved time, considering how often I died in this game. So ~70 hours of actual playtime sounds about right.

45+ so far. I just hit the 4th Block.

I haven't left it on too long, so maybe minus about 3-4 hours on that, and that would be my accurate game time.

I know this isn't a request thread, but does anyone have a decent wallpaper of the hero using his envoker.

On that note, did anyone here manage to date mitsuru? and if so whats the advantages

I'm damn close to dating her...

I'm one stage away from dating her and Fuuka. Damn that I can't get my Charm up...

This guy is a pimp if he could seriously balance three girlfriends. <.<

For the sake of being a jackass, I just want to point out that Fuuka makes me think of Persona 3's voice acting as thousands of times worse than several atrocities throughout history. Yes, the Gong Show, American Idol, and Fox News... all quite possibly "not so bad" compared to Fuuka's goddamn American voice.

I like Persona 3, definitely not the Persona I grew up with but this isn't necessarily a bad thing as far as gameplay is concerned.

Yes, Fuuka's definitely pretty bad, she sounds very strained at some (many) parts. It was one of the few voices that I didn't like.

well for the guys that are just getting to date the girls... I think this will help a bit I will use spoiler tags I guess to keep it clean even if it isn't much of a spoiler in itself.

I vote Junpei as having the best, most realistic voice. Everyone else's are bland and generic. But Fuuka and Pharos.. Can someone loan me a gun? Uh, never mind. Anyway I just maxed out my Academics right on time to ace my October exams. Mitsuru will be mine!! Right after I'm done with Yukari. I'm also just one rank away from dating Fuuka.

About the full moon bosses, I'm deliberately trying to keep my levels low so they present some type of challenge but these things just plain fail. The hardest boss yet was that table on Tartarus Floor 135, it almost made me miss my quest deadlines.

10/4

Fuuka's voice is irritating, but how can you not like Pharos? His voice hits the perfect spot between creepy and happy.

Pharos is always stating the obvious. Oh the moon is getting full again? Wow, even though everyone keeps reminding me, its on the news and I have a calender, I had no idea. Thanks creepy Michael Jackson kid! This picture sums up how I feel about his prophecies.

And the 10/4 boss was easy but still fun. The Wheel of Fortune thing had me LOLing the whole fight. :D

During a shuffle, when the cards leave the screen and return, is there any pattern to what order they return in? I've been trying to figure it out, and finally just gave up. It's been getting kinda irritating since there are times when I want the money card, or the experience card, and then they have to go fly off the screen, and return all scrambled up.

They return in the order they flew up in from left to right.

After a marathon weekend run I finally beat the game as I had to break my addiction to the game before the school semester is in full swing. Let me just say best last boss ever.




Nope

Also about the FES issue. All I can say is that Jim Ireton, the VP for Atlus US is someone who I have dealt with on both a personal and business level in the past. Inside infoz tells me that P3 was a pet project of his and he's been extremely pleased with the response it's been getting here. I wouldn't give up on the possibility of FES just yet. Jim is gamer before he's a businessman and is the main reason you see so many releases for Atlus that you'd never expect. They don't run Atlus like a big corporation like say Square-Enix. Take the time to email him and tell him how much you enjoyed P3 your desire to see FES released in the US and I can tell you he'll seriously consider the prospect if for anything a service to the fans.

For the card-draws, I use a little trick to pick out which one I want... The cards themselves hover in place and sloooooowly sway at tilts/angles. Keep an eye on how much some are tilted and keep a note of it. Such as the one you want being tilting far to the left. Tell it to shuffle fast and keep note the one you want is now tilting far to the RIGHT (since it flipped around). Then pick the one most like that after shuffling is done. You have to do it at the right time though because they still hover/shift during the card shuffle.

This has yet to fail me really >_>; I got pissed off with how fast some draws went when it had something I wanted, so I spotted this and it works 100% of the time. Just hafta time it right.

Tower boss spoiler, floor low 100s.

I got kind of lucky on that boss. I maxed out a Narcissus Persona carrying a gift item, which was a Narcissus Flower: Charm Immunity. I equipped it on hero guy (Shawn Uzuki ;)) and kept everyone uncharmed while bashing away. If it weren't for that item I'd have probably lost several times, which makes me wonder what the other Persona gifts are. There's still a Jack Frost with a heart stored in my compendium, I bet his is an anti-freeze accessory.

Thanks Doc and Gechmir! I can't believe I didn't notice that, but then that would be just like me not noticing something that obvious. I'll try to give your strat a try Gech! :)

I just started. I'm up to floor 16. I'm really enjoying the game so far.

Has anyone got the death curse card in a shuffle? The first time I didn't really even notice the skull and cross bones on it till I picked it and it said "Death Draws near". I was like what does that mean? Then I hear chains dragging on the floor, I'm frantically looking for stairs or warp point because I had just found two rare chests including a katana, everyone was tired and I had no idea if it's even possible to survive a battle with death. Fortunately I met him in a room that had enough space for me to run around him and get to the stairs. So is he defeatable or are you doomed?

Mostly doomed at the level you're at. You probably have to be level 99 to beat him or something, but I'm not too sure. Best you run instead of trying to take him on. <.<

Actually, you can kill Death if you use the Satan + Lucifer combo move, which does 9999. Makes the request to kill him one of the easier ones, that is, if you've managed to get those two.

And guest, you're right about Jack Frost. While I was getting caught up with my fusions, I managed to get his item. I think it's called a freeze stone or something, but it nulls ice.

It's the Freeze Cap, actually. I've only gotten items from Jack Frost and a Titan so far, but I forget what the Titan gave me.

Since it's somewhat on topic, where did you get that sig, Metal Sphere? :tpg:

Yeah, I knew it was freeze-something. Either way, I threw that on Akihiko when we went into bufu-happy enemy territory. Just like I put the Ring of Darkness on Ken to null Mudo stuff. Abaddon's Book of Enoch is awesome for the status resistance.

As for my sig? I got it by lurking over on 4chan's videogame forum, I usually manage to coax some new material out of them (like my sig). Here's another example:

http://i8.tinypic.com/6hd8ls6.jpg

And here's my sig in its original size, since it's slightly larger than what the forum allows:

http://i9.tinypic.com/63hsx92.jpg

Something that's got me down about New Game+ is that apparently S. Links didn't carry over.

On the other hand, since you keep your personae, your level, your equipment, and monad block is accessible, do you really need those extra five levels per fusion? It should only really be an issue with the higher level judgement/sun/tower personae, but how many times are you really going to be fusing those?

It's something that I needed to mention, that way folks know which S. Links to max so they can get the final persona for that arcana and save it in the compendium.

The item you gained from the S. Link itself is carried over as well, so it's not like it's the end of the world or anything.

Just remember to put lots of super stuff on the Compendium I suppose :E

That would fucking suck if it worked like that, and it's the first thing I checked for once the game gave me access to the menu.
Yup, fill it with as many final personas as possible (and even better, level them up to within a few points of obtaining the item). That way on the next playthrough you can focus on the other S. Links you didn't max.

Oh blah, just hit the 135th Floor...

Oh shi-

Err, survive it? Get level up and get better gear? I hate that you're basically forced to absorb that shit. Oh, don't bring Mitsuru since he loves his Maragidyne. Have a Persona that absorbs that, or nulls it (Decarabia is good) so that's one less thing to worry about.

But yeah, just keep your health up and whittle away at him.

I thought you guys might like this, I wanted to use it as a sig or something, but I think I can't claim it or anything since I have played about 12 seconds of Persona 3, but it looks awesome, but anyway, not getting sidetracked at all, I'm gonna post this thing, right, now.

http://i9.tinypic.com/5y8pxkp.gif

It's by that guy that did the Pirate Baby 2006 video!

EDIT: Sorry if this was already posted, I scanned the whole thread (!) but I didn't see it. And I think it's super neat!

Le sigh... I guess I'll have to grind for a little while... I still have twenty something days until the next full moon so I have some time to burn before I face this boss. Now would probably be a good time to hit at least level 45 or something.

Yeah, he's really annoying, since there's just about no way getting around his Megidola spamming ass (aside from surviving it, that is). And that means... leveling up, getting equipment and in the actual fight, setting most to Heal/Support.

Luckily, as I mentioned way back when, the next few after him are a breeze.

I dunno, those stupid sword guys on floor 180 gave me some trouble. I had to fuse a Chernobog with healing spells and just let my party members slowly drain the enemies' health. It's irritating how difficult it is to get around bosses who spam powerful physical or Megido spells.

On floor 36 now. That guardian is a real pain with his magic, doesn't seem to have any weakness either. Is there any Personas that could be beneficial? I'm level 14.

One of my fused persona has an item inside, does the item come out on a certain level?

Also to those who have beat the game, is it possible to beat the game without making it to the top of the tower? Is the ending different?

What was the boss on floor 36? I can't remember that far back.

As for persona items, they come out when it learns its final skill. So basically it's a reward for maxing out the persona.

Anyone else exploit that you can register a persona with an item very close to the level they acquire their final skill, dump them once they cough up the item, and buy them back as many times as you like? I'd be doing that tons if I actually fused more than two that carried something in a 70 hour play time so far, heh.

Yeah, Dr. Uzuki. I always make sure to head back and register them in the compendium a few points before they get their final skill, then I just get as many of the item I want.

It's confirmed。 Anyone want to donate me 600 dollars? This, plus Disgaea 3, justify the purchase of a PS3 for me。 Although I still want to wait until one's easily moddable, so I don't have to mess around with PS1 and PS2 regiosn。

That's depressing news. As limited as Atlus releases tend to be, the new Persona game will likely be impossible to find by the time I get around to buying a PS3. I was hoping they would put the next SMT game out for 360 instead, since I intend to buy one of those in the near future. I haven't kept track of which system is selling better in Japan though, so this is probably a good move over there.

A new Persona could end up being extremely good or extremely depressing news for me. At the risk of INNOVATION INNOVATION being screamed in my face, the next Persona would have to be very close in graphic style, music style and execution to Persona 3 for me to be really excited about it. If they could basically take Persona 3 and deepen the simulation aspect and have the choices have more of an impact on the main story and clean up the random dungeon aspect, I would consider it the perfect announcement.

But I guess I'll have to wait and see what they announce for it.

Japanese sales are always gonna be like this, in order of most sold:

Wii - constantly selling and NO ONE FUCKING KNOWS WHY
PS3 - selling reasonably and NO ONE FUCKING KNOWS WHY
360 - lol American games in Japan

Considering the PS3 is fucking $1000 NZD, or, $700 USD where I live, I won't be buying one this year.. perhaps next year, when the price drops (and it will).

Regarding Floor 135's boss and my frustrations (spoiler tags just to be safe):

And just for kicks, for anyone who did beat the 135 boss without cheating, what level did you kill this thing at, and what were the average levels of the rest of your party?

Haha floor 135.

Actually Miles, he's only one of three asshole bosses in Tartarus. It was mainly his goddamn Megido spamming that's the issue, and possibly a Hama skill here or there. One of the other ones just spams Megidolaon the entire fight, while the other has some decent defenses (absorbs and nulls some stuff). He likes his status effects, too.

Whoo. Finally! I beat the damn table. >.<

I'm very close to the end of the game and I only have enough time to max out 2 more S.Links, 3 if I'm lucky. *sigh* It sucks how you have to start them over on a New Game+. Even if you do have the key item for the ultimate persona, you still won't get any bonus levels for fusing it. ._.

At least P3 offers an explanation why the dungeon floors are different every night :D
And honestly, the single bad thing in the game for me is that you're under constant time pressure T_T
Why do games nowadays have to be built that it's impossible to get a complete playthrough without using FAQs? I miss the good old times :D
But I wouldn't have anything against another P3-style game too, just because this game with it's high-school-life simulator is soo highly addicting and entertaining. But as long as the story is good I'd play anything out of the SMT-cosmos.

You can complete Persona 3 well enough without using walkthroughs or guides, and it's definitely much more enjoyable that way. Yes, you probably won't be able to get everything the first time you play (i.e. complete all the social links), but if you want to do that, New Game+ is there. ALSO, OCD completionism in games is dumb anyway. Big ups to Square for the Zodiac Spear.

Edit: also, I can't really imagine the game without a day limit. Managing your time and choosing who you want to spend time with, or if you would rather study or go to Tartarus, that's an integral part of it. With unlimited time, it would be a different game.

Grats on beating that stupid boss! :) Just in case you still want them, I've put them in the spoiler below

What is OCD?

I finally beat it today, clocked in at 146 hours and it was worth every second. I'd like to say this game was amazing. Best RPG I've played since Xenosaga.

Persona 3: Game of the Year
Hands down. :)

:facepalm:

I was around 24hrs when I last played. Can't wait to get back to it~ =D Soon, I will be...

I need to pick it up again also... I hate being busy with classes. <_<

Holy crap. I clicked on that spoiler without thinking ;_; NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Ouch, and of all spoilers to accidentally click on, it had to be one of the bigger ones. Damn

And, sorry! They are spoilers for a reason. :tpg:

I know. I dunno WHY I clicked on it... ;( Too busy looking at threads where spoilers are harmless to me... :sigh:

Yeah, I have a horrible tendency to do that also. To make me feel better about myself is question what would happen leading up to that certain event that was just spoiled for you. When you finally figure it out, you finally feel a lot less horrible about it.

Currently at 85hrs @ 10/1x (forgot exactly) though since the optional boss can only be fought on a second playthrough (damn you Atlus USA!) I'm going to probably poor in another 80hrs or so. :><:

Worth every minute though!

Could someone give the month that Chaotic's spoiler refers to, at least? I'm really curious as to what he said, but I don't want to spoil anything for myself if it's beyond the beginning of December.

It's October, I think.

And yes, if you use the [spoil] tags, please indicate what the spoiler refers to, so that people wouldn't have to guess whether it will spoil something for them or not.

Something I noticed when you fuse you can reset and keep fusing until the Persona you want turns up with an item. I only did it once but after a reset or two my Unicorn had an item inside. I don't know if I was just lucky or it's relatively easy. I haven't been doing much fusing because I'm working on getting high Social Link bonuses for some of the ones I want to make.
Finally I can fuse some Persona with multi-hit magic spells~

Thanks, after fusing the Jacks I managed to get it knocked down enough so I was actually able to finish it off. The Jack bros have a handy skill.

It's easier to get items out of persona when it is before and after a full/new moon. I think the chances of getting a heart jumps from something like 30% to 70%. Though I forgot where I read that.

I edited my spoiler tag and also the spoiler that Chaotic is talking about IS in October.

Long needed update.

Again, a date or at least month for the spoiler would be nice. From October to the end of the game is a pretty wide range for it to refer to.

I think im gonna get this game tomorrow. The only thing that bugs me.. is this so called time limit? But, I hear you can put 110hours into it.. so obiviously its not a short time limit.

I loved the other SMT games, so Im sure ill like this one. One thing though, I havent played 1 or 2(PSX games) will i understand whats going on?

Well you're limited by the number of months you have in the game. I haven't completed it yet, but from my understanding you start the game in April and it ends in December or early January.

Time during the day doesn't pass in real time so you don't have to worry about rushing around to get everything done, it just takes some planning ahead since certain actions will take you from morning to afternoon, and from afternoon to evening.

Everyday except Sunday is a school day (unless it's summer vacation or a holiday) and thus your morning to afternoon time will always be taken up by classes. When Afternoon/After School hits, you're free to go stock up on items, and then choose whether you want to hang out with a friend to improve their social link, take part in an activity which will improve your intelligence, courage, or charisma, or just forward the game to evening by heading straight to the dorm.

From evening you can either sleep, study, partake in some activities that are available only in the evening and sometimes only on certain days to improve your courage or charisma, or go to Tartarus. After you're done with any of the following activities the next day will begin.

Does time stand still when your fighting/training? Like if i wanted to grind for a couple hours.. do i need to worry about the time limit?

Basically, you go into the dungeon at night to train. You can stay there as long as you want, but you and the other party members get tired, which lowers fighting abilities. In the case other party members get tired, they will leave, but you can stay forever if you wish, though it is not recommended.

However, on the night before the full moon, no one will get tired, so you can use those nights to train however much you want. So really, there's not much of a time limit overall.

k.. well im going to get it tomorrow.. my gamestop actually has a few copies.. kinda rare, knowing atlus release 10 copies of their games. I still cant find nocturne or the devil saga games ;/

About_Me

Persona 3 "expansion edition" was listed on this site, and this is an English VA.

It was removed though, supposedly because Atlus found out about it. Make of it what you will.

Did he VA one of the chars or something? id hate to just buy persona 3, and this expansion come out.. that'd id have to rebuy.

Do you have any clue what an expansion even remotely is? At all?

Hm I still am keeping my fingers crossed for FES

damn, i was doing good i thought.. i get to the next block, and the tiger/wheel looking enemy killed my dudes in like 1 hit.

I really hope FES comes out to the states in its entirety. Even though I've already doubled dipped and bought two copies of the game, I'd eagerly dive into this. I'd love to sink my teeth into an enhanced version of the Episode Yourself and Episode Aegis. Just let us transfer our saves from regular P3 to the enhanced game and I'll be stoked.

I doubt that you'd be able to transfer your saves due to several small differences between the two games. Shifted locations, different situations regarding Social Links...

Crap like that.

From what I've read on the NeoGaf, that was possible in the Japanese version.

"No answer to this yet...anyone know exactly what transfers over from a P3 save to FES? And if there's any difference in using a regular P3 save as opposed to a clear?"

"It applies to all P3 saves. P3 Fes doesn't differentiate between a clear save and a regular save. You don't get much though, it only carries over the Persona database, your academy/charm/courage parameters, special items you get from maxing out communities and the mixraid list. Everything else is reset."

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...=200842&page=2

I don't see why they'd drop this option if it does make it over here. Especially since a majority of the people who'll end up buying it will be people who played and loved the original game, anyways.

Edit: Mm, guess this transfer only applies between P3 and FES. Both versions of P3? I don't get why you need your academics/charm/courage stats if FES has no commu events. Can anyone who has played the Japanese versions clarify this?

Here's what I was talking about:

http://usera.imagecave.com/WalkerThe...liamobrien.jpg

Then maybe there is hope.

Also, they spelled Persona wrong for Fes. Perona. :3:

They also numbered .Hack//GU 1, 2, and 4. Still, I'll take any shred of hope available when it comes to getting a translated version of Fes.

I need November to hurry up and end so that I can finally have time to finish P3. I'm still at the beginning of December, and it taunts me.

Whoops, I've got it backwards yet again!

Yeah, and "Odin's Sphere", but it looks like this is the voice actor's homepage, and he posted his acting history without realizing that FES is unreleased.

I'm not sure why Atlus keeps dying everyone on their forums.

I still need to beat it. Period.

I'm finally in the home stretch, and I've had NO time to play it at all. :gonk: