Face or Body?
 

This question has sort of been nagging me lately. I saw a picture of a girl I knew in a bathing suit on this here internet the other day, and I was kind of surprised that her body was so good-looking, because I'd never particularly noticed her face (it wasn't ugly, just meh--but her body was somewhat attractive). Then, because I am a girl, I compared the two of us, and promptly decided that I have a better-looking face and she has a better-looking body. And I began to wonder, what is more important to guys?

If one saw both she and I in bathing suits, she'd be the obvious pick. But girls aren't usually strutting around in bathing suits--especially not those who think they have something to hide. So are guys more likely to concentrate on facial features? Then, if things become more intimate, is it this big surprise: "She doesn't look like a swimsuit model, WHUT??"

Please keep in mind that I am not implying some HUGE dichotomy. We're not talking hideous face/beautiful body or vice versa. I also know that you'd prefer awesome body and face but that wouldn't make a very interested thread, would it?

Edit: Apparently, the term is "butter face." But throw in a "butter body" too.

Hey, I'd like this question to be reversed for girls too. Do you like sporty guys with hot muscular bodies or a scrawny guy with a pleasing face?
(I'm scrawny :( )

What type of guy do you want to attract?

Face and legs are the first two things I notice. Butt shape, hip shape, etc, breast size(although a bonus) doesn't really matter much to me. If you look hot and have sweet legs, I'm going to be melting in a puddle of my own skin.

As far as I can tell for girls, looks aren't that important. Unless you are absolutely repulsive (unwashed hair and so on), you can attract girls by means of attitude and personality. I'm by no means attractive, but I never have trouble attracting girls.

Anyway, I personally do care about the face more than the body, however one thing I really hate is super skinny, flat girls. I like boobs. But the face definitely comes first, if I can't look at the girl it's not going anywhere.

But of course for a long-lasting relationship more is needed than just a pretty face. Personality, as striped says, becomes more important the longer the romance lasts.

A woman's face is far more important to me than her body, with her eyes being the quality I find the most attractive in most women. Personally I like a woman with a round face and large eyes who doesn't wear a lot of makeup. Hair is also important. I really only find dark haired women attractive, in general.

When it comes to the body, I find different things attractive than most men. I like a fairly generously proportioned woman. I would even go so far as to say just a little chubby, so long as she isn't HUEG. I like big curves, and I have to admit that I'm a breast man.

However all of that is far less important than a pretty face, and a nice personality.

Here's what I tend to think when a guy says that; I think they have this image of a woman who is beautiful and toned like a model, but simply weighs more and has more curves/bigger breasts. Something like this:

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...h/plussize.jpg

I would say that that would be a grievous misperception, though; the vast majority of "chubby" women are not toned like that; there will be some flab and/or rolls to deal with. They probably will have bigger, natural boobs though. However, it's still encouraging to hear guys say that they don't dig the super-skinny chicks. Because let's face it, those chicks are getting fewer every decade.

I kinda take the opposite approach with guys; I prefer the "skinny" ones to the buff, muscular ones. I've kinda thought that a skinny guy is somewhat equivalent to a slightly chubby girl, that way. While girls worship thinness with regard to themselves, it is generally stereotyped as an "unattractive" boy quality, which is silly. Though, you know how girls think the "ideal" girl body is a lot skinnier than guys actually think it is? It works the other way around, too; a really buff guy can be as much as a turn-off as a super-skinny chick to the opposite sex. Both might point to possible signs of unhealthy obsession with body image. That being said, they don't always, so I hope all the buff guys and thin girls don't come bursting in here with steak knives.

A few of the girls I've had a thing for were super skinny, given one of them (who I later found out was a muff-diver) grew a REALLY nice body between when she was 16 and 22 (I didn't see her for a long stretch. Kept in touch online). Must be her mom's stripper-genes kicking in o_o I know it isn't implants, because she isn't the type for that sorta thing.

Anyhow. I'd say face, because lots of personality mannerisms tie in to that and the eyes. I can typically look at a girl and roughly determine her personality just by her facial expressions (ie: shy, outgoing, sweet, bitchy, etc). The eyes I often don't notice, but I will jump to specific features. There's one lady working at my office that is a much older woman, but I could tell she was gorgeous when she was younger. Plus her eyes are the most interesting color I've EVER seen. It's almost a yellowish green of sorts -- never seen a shade like it, much less that bright-looking. But tying in to what I'd like in an ideal woman? I've noticed I almost always have a thing for women with dark hair and bright eyes (ie: Kate Beckinsale's look in some of her movies, or the female main character from Wedding Crashers, Rachel MacAdams <3 Too bad that's not how she always looks...)

Body I don't care about, as long as it doesn't get too out of control (ie: weighing as much as me). Unless they're close to my height, I wouldn't want them over 150lb or so (I like my womens short, so this gives even more leeway to it). Sure, I weigh a lot, but that's due to muscle -- I ain't obese.

Breasts are nice, but I prefer nice hips and a good tush. Nice curvy hips and a thin waist are a plus.

What is your height, Gech? I'm over 150lb, you know!

I'll answer for Striped Phantom, because I read the thread and thought 'damn, I'm not sure. This is a tough one.' But now that I've thought about it a little bit, I've realized a bit of what I do.

If I see the guy up close, I automatically look at the face. If I see him from a distance (IE: walking down the sidewalk while I'm driving), I'll notice the body first, then, if that's pleasing (moderate, not too skinny, but not chubby either), I'll see if I can get a glimpse of his face. In the end though, it all kinda rests on the face for me.

6'3½ or so =o

150lb may be more of a bullshit number than anything. I'm sure if I weighed some girls I've seen, I'd be surprised at their weight. But yeah, I like my womens very slender, I've come to notice. I really liked one girl WAAAAYYY back in grade school who had some weight to her. But she was such a stone-cold bitch toward me that I think I've been scarred from women of that size. Kinda weird for a friend you've known since you were four years old to suddenly despise your guts =(

These threads usually fall into these really bullshit "I just love who they are" spirals, it's good to see this one avoiding it so far.

I tend to fall in with Temari (though, y'know, I prefer pussy. Then again, she's friends with Sprout, so she clearly does too. Someone tell him I said that. That's too good to go to waste. He'll appreciate it.) concerning this. From a distance, body. Definitely. I mean, I'm walking down the street, I'm not looking for striking green eyes and full lips, I'm looking for curves and a sexy walk. Movement is fucking crucial here. If you don't move like someone who knows how to fuck, I'm not going to bother. There is a natural rhythm and slink a person can have that will immediately grab my attention. It's a self-assured gait that really tosses out the "I'm a sexual being" vibe.

As for body type, I can be all over the map. I've gone for tall and curvy (I blame my Jessica Rabbit fetish), I've gone for tall and thin (y halo thar volleyball), I've gone for short and very curvy (4'11" with a double d chest), and I've gone for short and very soft curves (5'1", 98 lbs). Plus, toss in all the asian women I've gone for and the few badonkadonk endowed black women, and I think all body types have a specific thing going for them. I'm not a chubby chaser, though. Curves and some size are fine on a well curved woman with hips, but a petite girl with a lot on her frame, that's just not going to do it for me.

Now, up close, facial features count. I'm picky as hell about the women I go for. A luxury of being a good talker, I guess, is that as an overweight hairy guy, I can still coax a high calibre of woman into sleeping with me. Because of that, I just don't really settle. Do I want a pretty body or a pretty face? Both, goddamnit. Granted, if a girl can work the cock, a 7 suddenly becomes a 10. It's amazing what one mind blowing blowjob will do for your perception of how pretty someone is.

Deni, you don't hold back, do you? For me it has very little to do with the face OR the body, but if I absolutely had to choose one I'd have to say the face, because that's where the teeth are. Really, teeth are the most important thing to me as far as physical things go. I can't say why.

The characteristics that really do it for me are confidence and intelligence. I can work around a lot of physical flaws, but if someone is stupid or hates himself then there's not a chance in hell I'm going to be attracted to him.

I'd have to say the face, now I think about it. I've actually realised whilst reading over this thread that I don't consciously notice a guy's body until we've already started going out. I'm drawn to a guy's eyes, the windows of the soul and all that crap. Not that I don't have preferences for body size and type (tall and anywhere from skinny to medium build are ideal if anyone really cares), but the face is what I tend to fall for first.

I don't think my girlfriend would appreciate me putting her picture on the internet for all to see, but I will tell you that she doesn't look anything like the picture you posted. She's got quite a bit more curve than the woman in that picture, on every part of her body. She is still in proportion, rather than being so big that she's unhealthy, but she is built for comfort, not for speed. That's just the way I prefer it, and she knows that. I know my taste is an uncommon one, but that's just the way I've always been.

My girlfriend says the same thing about buff, muscular guys. I'm not one of them, but I'm hardly skinny either. I'm 5'11 and somewhat over 200 pounds, but I'm neither toned nor especially flabby. I'm just kinda stocky, and though J could probably stand to lose a few pounds, I'm not going to worry about it.

Haha...yeah...I've noticed a lot of guys are terrible at guessing the weight of women, and usually it's more than what they think. Hell, I can't believe how much some people have thought I weighed (not saying I wasn't flattered, but you know...girls don't always weigh less than the guy :rolleyes:).

I'll answer the 'male question.'

I usually notice body first, then the face.
I tend to like skinny-to-normal guys. When I see a really skinny guy (not drug-addict thin, I have to point out), with especially narrow hips, I think it's outrageously attractive -- visually. The counter to this is, I don't like the same body type naked, and they aren't as nice to hug. Also, really skinny guys make me feel self-conscious, so usually I don't get my hopes up. After all, they're probably not interested in me, either.

"Normal" guys are the ones I actually look at with serious interest...I remember the first time I thought a non-skinny guy was attractive, and it was because he had the nicest ass I had ever seen on a male o_O (and I'm definitely not a butt girl, so it surprised the hell out of me). He wasn't fat, but he wasn't thin, and he wasn't necessarily toned; hell, he was an artist, but back in high school he had previously been on the football team.

The other thing I almost require is to be as tall or taller than me. A guy who's significantly shorter than me makes me more self-conscious even than a skinny guy; I also like to have some leeway, because I'm fond of platform heels that make me about 5'10".

Also, I'll throw in the obligatory "personality dominates everything else" bit. Because it's the damned truth...I've been interested in fairly large guys even though it's not my thing physically, but they have a great personality.

Girl asked an honest question, it deserved an honest answer.

Propped like hell.

Like Temari and Deni, I look at the body first from a distance. That's often how first impressions are made for me, especially physically. I love a nice butt, that gets my goose more than anything, but a proportional, non-saggy, and decent sized rack is nice as well (hey Temari).

The chubbyness of a girl doesn't bother me, seeing as how I used to be obese, but I do have my limits. That picture posted earlier is a nice reflection of what is a bit below my limit. I can take a girl who is a little chunkier than that, but not much.

I completely agree with this, Deni-
That was always one of those "back of my mind" things, that I knew was important, but never really could put it to words.

I usually follow the number system when discussing female attractiveness (0 being a clydesdale and 10 being a goddess). This makes narrowing down who's worth it easier. I also use IF statements to make it scientific, and allow me to make exceptions. Example-

IF face = 5 and body = 8, CONFIRMED
IF face = 8 and body = 5, CONFIRMED
IF face = 0 and body = 10, NO THANKS

This is why I'm single, btw.

Its a bit of both. My girlfriend is slightly chubby, but therefor she has curves. She has awesome legs too. Oh, and her face is probably the most beautiful thing I have ever seen.
Usually the first thing I notice in a girl is the eyes, then cheeks, mouth (teeth), hair, etc. For me if someone is fat or "ugly" (as defined by other people) it doesn't really matter to me, as long as they are smart and enjoyable to be around. I dated one girl for a while, till I found out she didn't shave, anywhere, and only showered about once every other week. That ended fast.

I guess if I put them in order it would be face > legs > boobs > hips/butt.

This post would not be complete though without the cliché: Personality > all.

you mean you didn't figure that out 'til someone told you? are you kidding me?

I generally look at girl's faces and personalities when I am attracted to someone. Not to say that I don't look at the body too, but it generally isn't the deciding factor.

Aww, you guys are so cute with your personality preferences... No, seriously, you're making me feel ridiculously shallow.

Right now I'm looking for a guy who is good-lookin', and that's one of my very few stipulations. You may have a nice personality, buddy, but I gotta think you're oh-so-cute. That's kind of funny coming from me, though, because I'm not really a model over here, and it's fairly rare that the guy upstages the girl lookswise, though it often happens the other way around. It's worth emphasizing, though, that what I think is cute may not necessarily fit into the average "hotness" stereotype. But it may. How should I know?

Also, it's making me laugh that we're all claiming to be so picky. Sure, Deni may be able to tap some ass whenever he'd like, but let's be honest... GFF isn't exactly a couples hangout. More like... a single-guy-who-would-take-anything-he-could-get's... hangout. Um, don't mind me.

I don't know about you guys, but what I really look for first is a big, sexy personality.

A big, thick personality that is willing to do anal.

That always helps.

I personally go for a man strictly based on penis size. I have a habit of walking up to random men, rubbing their crotch, and then deciding whether they come home with me based on how far the bulge goes down their leg.

If you go by length-ratio standards, then you must have a thing for midgets =U

Yeah, Gech, way to pull the most retarded "if" straight out of your ass.

Speaking of... Paris Hilton, I honestly do not see what's physically appealing of her. She's just UGLY as a wall flower. But hey, she got laid more times I did.

I dunno which I'd pick, but I like the weight ratio though. Like how some chubby people have such the cutest faces whereas the thin people can wear such awesome trendy outfits with confidence.

I had... a huge crush on my physics teacher that looks a LOT like... Denicalis. ;___; Glasses, beard, dark hair and soft eyes.

It's what I do :3:

http://www.cellep.com/cellepteam/edi...agens/Joey.jpg

How you doin'?

I guess the first thing I notice about a guy is their height. The guy HAS to be taller than me, that is a requirement (that is not very hard to fulfill, though, because I am only 5'1"). I don't really like big hulking guys either, like the huge quarterbackerish football people. This is kind of a weird question for me because I don't really pay attention to guys until I start to talk to them. If I really get into the conversation, and the guy seems nice and stuff, then I kind of look him over and decide whether I like his looks or not.

Personally, I think all people have some degree of beauty. Many people have remarkably pretty eyes, or great noses, or whatever, and most people have pretty faces.

I would lean towards face. Although having a hot body would be a plus, in the long run I think having a guy with a great smile and eyes will make up for future middle aged flabbiness. I don't have any tolerance whatsoever for overweight guys which is sad because at the rate of obesity in America these days... I guess I have high standards when it comes to body because I take care of myself and I feel like I deserve someone who is fit like me. I sound too arrogant in that last sentence but eh, it's only natural.

I like muscular (toned, not heavyweight boxers or something ridiculous), but I'm willing to go with thin (not stick thin). Thin over fat for me. Second to looking at face is definitely height. The dude's gotta be at least five inches taller than me so I can wear normal heels and still be shorter than him, although I prefer 6'. And as usual, everything in proportion. I have a thing for dark hair, but I have liked guys with light hair as well. Eyes can be any color, I don't care. And too much body hair is a big turn off. Don't want a frickin' Robin Williams.

Same with everyone else. From far away, bod. Close up, face.

I have been known to fall for a guy's eyes, now that I think of it.
In fact, the last guy I was interested in was mostly for the eyes, because he had really nice ones :). And he had nice hands...but that was probably noticeable because he played piano. It certainly wasn't his body in that case.

I am a face person before body. I think this may be because I am attracted to such a wide range of body types. If a bony chick has nice eyes and nice lips, who cares if she weighs less than I do {I weigh like 130, I am very thin and definitely not in proportion}. If I am dating you, I am going to be spending more time looking at your face than at your boobs and ass, so it is only natural to prefer a nice looking face.

Also you guys are deliciously shallow.

I would have to say that i am as well am a face kinda guy but more specifically than face I am an eyes kinda guy. Nothing can make me melt faster than a girl with beautiful eyes that are looking at me.

So you really expect us to believe that if some fat as fuck, troll looking hag had beautiful, deep, piercing dark eyes, or sea-whipped blue depths that could look right through you, you'd forget about her 300 lbs of mass and hag-like features?

Go back to the WB, Dawson.

Deni, he didn't say that he didn't care about body at all... Way to take a statement way too far so as to make it look ridiculous. :rolleyes:

You can make anyone look idiotic if you put what they say into an extreme context.

I know this is a copout, but they have to have a nice face and a nice body. I don't care how nice your face is, if I don't like your body, that kills it for me. Same thing with nice body, but not so nice face. I know that's not the answer you wanted, but in an effort to give an answer, an ugly face is worse than an ugly body. It's like that semi-famous quote, "I may be fat, but you'll always be ugly."

The pretty ones are great, but they usually have thorns. I can't stand any kind of overweightness, however. I just can't. Thunderous thighs and cankles are the biggest buzz killers. That said, a bit of delightful softness around the tummy and hips is hawt. I'm not a monsterously huge lad (about... 5'10 and 70kg? I think?), so all my girlfriends have been fairly petite things with chubby little bellies and cute faces and hey, I think that's the bestest.

Like tiki said right above me, I can't stand chicks with any sort of chub. It's just gross to me. I can't look past any strech marks or rolls.

Kind of funny considering I've got a little bit of chub myself and I'm hardly good looking enough to be picky.

We're a bunch of shallow a-holes, aren't we...:P

Yeah, I'm on the looks as well, but I remember faces much better than bodies, so I'll say the face. Hell, I'm an auditorial person anyway, so all I remember are my initial opinions echoing in my head.

"I don't remember her bod, but it was fine."

As for the chubby thing...hard to deny. It's the first thing to turn me off, though the face can bring it back. I've got some muscles, but I'm still skinny as a twig...maybe that's why nobody touches me. I'll snap. (That was a horrible, horrible, unintentional pun.)

But I'm a lucky guy who can eat whatever he wants, and he will enjoy being a steady 125. I was 110 for several years. I shouldn't judge, but I do. It's engrained into by brain.

Hey man, I wouldn't say that. It's okay to be turned on by what turns you on, you know. It's not like you can help it. There are guys out there who dig on rounder girls, too.

I wasn't talking literally, but okay. I thought I put a smiley to show my sarcasm, but that doesn't work too well on the internets.

I don't judge the people who like what they like. I think it's funny.

By found out, I mean hung out with her one day. Long story. ;_;

Definitely face for me. I've seen some pretty nice material at the gym I work at but when the face isn't even remotely pleasing but the body's great it just doesn't drive me up the wall the same way it would if her face was just plain and her body was great. The vast majority of women I've been attracted to because of their face seem underweight.

Yea, its the same for me when it comes to getting a first impression of girls. For friends personality and sincerity would be most important. For a life partner I guess face also plays a part too. I'm not too particular about body... I'm fine with a pretty normal one though a "hot body" would be a bonus.

Body. Simply because most girls who go to the effort to keep a nice body usually have a pretty face.

This is a surprisingly difficult question for me to answer. If we're talking solely physical attraction, it can really go either way.

If her face is really pretty, it can and usually will compliment her body, whether or not she's on the heavier or skinnier side. So, basically what I'm saying is there are some girls who have such an attractive face it will override any and faults you could find with her body.

The converse is true, too. There are some girls who don't have the prettiest faces, but have basically perfect 10 bodies. Thus, the angelic body overrides the busted grill.

Then again, most girls I find attractive have a face that compliments their body and vice-versa. Hair is a big thing with me, too, and eyes. A girl that does her hair to work with her eyes tends be really pretty. Like girls with narrow eyes go well with some shorter hair. Whereas, a girl with big round eyes would look better with long flowing hair.

For me i look at the womens face first. then her Butt and legs.

Face as the first priority. When you're hanging around a girl, the vast majority of the time they are wearing clothes (No kidding). Her face is what you see, what everyone see's.

Face. Body can be important, but to me dating-wise it isn't nearly as important. Sure, if I see a girl with an amazing body and a real pretty face, then that is icing on the cake, but if a girl has small breasts or something I wouldn't not date her.

I'm not very materialistic when it comes to features on women. I just need to be attracted to them, and to me it starts with a pretty face and good personality.

Face outweighs body every time, assuming both are relatively average. It's his face you'll kiss, look at when he's talking, take a picture of for your wallet. He can have a body with any number of faults, but they're easier to ignore than, say, a crooked nose, prominent nose hair or large mole between his eyes.

And I'm going to have to agree that personality matters a lot more than body in the long term. My fiance isn't ugly, but he is very average (physically speaking.) I can still look at him and think he's the hottest piece of manflesh out there though because I'm in love with his personality.

I can't help but love a girl with a great body. I guess that really is what's more important to me. That, however, is by no means a reason to believe that faces don't matter to me at all. It's just I notice the girl's boobs to body ratio way before I see the face. At least when you're doing a girl, if she lacks the face, you can put a bag over it. However, you can't put a bag over the body when taking your girl on a cute date and introducing her to your friends.

"Hands off the Kilograms! It's only the first date!"

A good face can last more than body.
Even in old age ,good face remains(even with wrinkles), but body has to be maintained fat and other issues.

Moreover, you see face most of the time, body is kept covered(specially genitals/boobs), nobody walks naked all the day.
So its better to watch pleasant face for daily life.

Specially in case of wife , i would go for beautiful face, face that is artistic,always good to look at against, kick ass pants creaming body.
You can get good feeling from face even if you are fully charged for sex or not.
But Good body only attracts me when i am charged, other wise NO.

"kick ass pants creaming body."

Quote of the motherfucking year.

And the Americans want to keep out foreigners. Why? Look at the sheer comedy they bring to the table.

I guess I'm hanging out with all the wrong girls.

Look, I'm not saying I don't like a cute face, but when you're just busy busy busy shoving her face down into the pillow while you take care of business, who the fuck cares if it's pretty or not? I'd much rather watch a cute behind squirm around than think about the pretty mouth I'm muffling in the sheets, or the gorgeous eyes that are probably tearing up now.

Really, I mean, I agree: It's all about what you see more of. I guess I'm just a whore.

I would go for something with a face. face is nicer than body. No body is perfect. Some are fat, others are too skinny. like blah. But, a nice face people can see a face everyday because faces are there.

The first thing I notice is height. I can't find a guy attractive unless he is tall and has nice hands. I find myself thinking good looking people are ugly if they have bad personalities, so I guess body is first. Tall and lanky is my type.

Well, I kinda think a fit body is important, being healthy overall is a big plus for me. I don't like ultra thin girls, but I just can't stand chubby girls. And really, with boobs, I'm kinda different from the general public because I DON'T want a girl with humongous boobs, I'd rather have a girl with small cute ones instead of someone with bigger boobs. But I guess it has to do with that usually the ones with big boobs are chubbier than girls without em. So "average" to "under average" ones are great! I like smaller girls in general. If I'd say the first thing I look at on a girl is well their overall shape of their body, and if they have a nice ASS (cause that is a huge plus) :) As for the face, I'm not that very picky, I find that alot of people have attractive faces in one way or another. I favor people with nice smiles, or people that are generally happy and smiling though. And I just can't stop loving brown haired girls.

But in my case I don't find the looks that very very important. Sure, I don't want someone downright ugly, but if they just have average looks/look a bit fit/are cute and are easy to be around I'D TOTALLY HIT IT :D I tend to get attracted to people's voices alone sometimes, and that just makes me want to listen to them for an eternity~ And when I can totally relate to someone else with my interests I get attracted too (cause that rarely happens XD). Humor is important too, I'd want someone whom I could joke about almost anything with. Open-minded girls FTW :D

Alice has a great point. Teeth are the by far the A-1 most important part for me as well. I can deal with many things except HORRIBLE TEETH. I mean, my teeth are fair from perfect, but they aren't jacked up. I mean, if her chicklets are all jumbled up and/or missing, I can't deal with it.

Other than that, I can pretty much handle anything else. I've only got a few ground rules.

1. Teeth
2. Height (5' 3" or higher please)
3. Can I hold a conversation with this person? (Do they annoy me?)

3 simple rules, right? :P

Yeah, I have to agree with that about the teeth, because I like people with great smiles, and well, nice teeth=often great smiles.

I'd also say face over body. There's just something about looking at a cute face of ya partner and like many others have pointed out, you see their face a lot more than any other part of their body. I like girls with curves and I'm alright with girls without any but they have to be proportionate and regardless of how cute a face a girl may be, if I feel that she's overweight I wouldn't go for her.

And in regards to the cliché that personality is key, I would agree with that to a point, I mean if the girl is hot as hell though but equally naive/dumb, I could only bare to keep it going for a few weeks, unless I only saw her couple of times a week only for screwing. Although if the girl has a great personaly but isn't that good looking in the face/body(mainly overweight) I couldn't bring myself to take it anywhere.

Now to find myself a new girl >.<!

Well, call me shallow if you will, but I couldn't seriously consider being with someone if they didn't have at least an average (by my standards, of course) appearence. Don't get me wrong, I don't think looks are the meter by which we should measure people, it's just that I have a hard time imagining I would want to have an intimate relationship with someone I can't stand to look at.

So I guess that means that face is more important to me, since that is the part of the body which you look at the most when your in a relationship, and if the face is pretty, it's easier to ignore other things that may be less appealing.

Neither.

It is all about the eyes.

Luckily, girls with nice eyes usually have the whole package.

Well, glad to know I'll be out of eyesight of you since I fail at the first two points. /shrugs :p

Anyhow, I tend to go for character/personality over superficial qualities like looks when it comes to guys. Although overall balance is highly recommended, I'm not too terribly picky about the body. Rather, I like being around guys who can admit their flaws and be comfortable with themselves. Something about being around perfectly perfect-face and body type people who are just full of themselves just make me uncomfortable.

Although I must say, guys at the gym I see whom have really shaped bodies, if there's nothing negative about their body then the facial points get even a higher quality standard for scrutiny. I'd rather have a cute face over a slightly out-of-shape body rather than an ugly mask over a gorgeous body.

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"ALL."

I'd have to go with face. Body is definitely important, but with body it mostly comes down to personal care (hygiene, cleanliness, fitness) rather than the actual shape or size of the body. And that is something that either can be improved or potentially you caught them on a bad day.

But an ugly face, well that just ruins everything. Conversations are harder when you can't or don't want to look them in the eye. It's hard to be proud of your girl when you know everyone doesn't really want to see her. And it's just harder to love someone that's ugly. You please them and see them smile... and cring?! Thanks, but no thanks.

I really don't go for the chubby/wasting away/totally fat/queer shaped types, even if they have a great-looking face. Skinny/petite but not famine/wasted if you know what I mean. The body ultimately is more important to me, although an ugly face is going to scare me off.

Well it's not like I'll be fucking his nose.

Stop pretending you're not shallow and tell the truth: BODY MATTERS SO MUCH MORE. It's what you'll be fucking at the end of the day.

Usually girls with pretty faces tend to have good bodies.

Oh, dear sweet blue, do you know nothing? :tpg:

body doesn't matter to me much (i love all sizes) face has to be pleasing
you can tell a lot about somebody from their face.

I'll wax wise for just a moment here and say that the face IS part of the body. I don't see that the two can be separated. This isn't the French Revolution.

I'll cite Natalie Portman as a case study of my ideal. Dark hair, petite body, great smile. And then she shaved her head and suddenly became very unattractive to me.

Short boyish hair is an extreme negative that totally kills attraction for me. But on the other hand there's no attraction to an obese girl with long beautiful hair either. So I guess there's just a range of attraction, and any extreme negatives in the beholder's eyes can kill it.

But this really is all moot. When it comes to being attracted to a REAL person in the real world there are an infinite number of factors and attributes, positive and negative, both physical and intangible that all matter to a greater or lesser extent whether you can delineate them on a cookie cutter bulleted list or not. You can't build yourself the perfect partner. You find someone with enough positives that matter to you and accept the whole package.

I can't say with certainty "This I'm attracted to. That I'm not." except in certain extremes and generalities. For me, there's a range of physical attraction and it really is personality, intelligence, honesty, maturity etc. that make or break a relationship and attraction. *

But if I have to answer the original topic's dichotomy, a pretty face counts the most. I can be melted by a great smile. And pony tails are nice.

* Of course, if your life's mission is to get as much tail as possible please disregard the previous.

jesus christ, are you still in high school or just a full blown virgin? who would ask such a juvenile question?

guys think exactly as you do; who'd settle for one or the other when you could have both? so the answer is ALL.

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I just scrolled up and realized I responded with the exact same answer on Dec 3, 2007, 07:08 AM. Is this not a testament to my rock-solid, unflinching nature?

What can I say. Zeal is amazing, even to himself.

Face every time. No question really, it's the smile that does it for me. I've gone out with girls of all shapes and sizes, and to be honest, if their personality is particularly attractive I can often forget about their body. Always has to have a pretty face though.

definitely face. the face is what you are looking at when you are talking to her.

the body is just a bonus....

of course, on top of this, everyone has different preferences for what constitutes a "pretty face", but in the end, i think the face is far more important.

For me face is much more important than body. Imagine you're sleeping with her, look in her face and your little friend is calling out a retreat. I'm sorry for saying it so directly but isn't it true? (And no, you can't do it from behind everytime)

Of course, body should be within predefined proportions but if face is bad, there's no longer a serious chance.


Edit: But we shouldn't forget that the most beautiful woman is nothing if she had a personality like a zombie.

Yes, you can. Get the fuck out and come back when you know what you're talking about.

You forgot the irony tags, my friend. ;)

You're saying you can't fuck a girl from behind every time you do the deed.

But you can. So you're wrong.





















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Face is most important to me. Honestly it seems more times then not, if a girl has a nice face, she also has a nice body. It's not neccessarily true the other way around.

And honestly I'd think people kiss more often then they have sex and if someone is really freaking ugly. I don't know how you'd be able to stand to kiss them.

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FAILURE

Gee I love how you chopped off part of what I said to misquote me. But, whatever. At least I caused you to post something aside from that annoying face.

Okay okay, you can do it. That's right. But it's unusual I guess. I mean, for me it would be boring to have sex in the same way eeeeverytime. Furthermore, imagine you're a great lover (beside from the fact you are one in reality or not, so don't get me wrong) and you are sleeping with a girl not for five minutes but, hm, let me say, 20 minutes or more. Would you do it only from behind for 20 minutes? Everytime? I don't believe. ;)

Thank you for my morning laugh.

I will never understand why people continue to post about sex once they've been shown they have no idea what they are talking about.

I dunno...to approach a girl, Like many others have said, you'd have to be attracted to the whole package...and probably for me, from far off its the body. Then it would go to face.

But all in all, after the date, if her personality is that of a pencil...umm...bye?

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And I agree with you on that Midna...seriously. If you can't really look at the girls face, you shouldn't be sleeping with her in the first place.

Body, come on. What kind of a question is this anyways. Anyone who's worth two fucking pennies would say body.

Personally the kind of body that I like has 3 legs, a cat's tail, four arms, two and a half eyes and at least five vaginas.

OK, now the internet knows about what I find attractive. Back to LARPing.

er, both? i mean, seriously, even if she's a pretty face, her body doesn't quite turn u on, what the heck man? as for hot body, but u can't bear to even look at her, my gawd, no.

Generally it's alright if you're slightly plump or chubby, or if you aren't that cute a girl, but seriously, meet both minimum requirements please.

but comparatively, i'd say body. There's always a thing called a paper bag.

Well I'd say I'm pretty open but I like a decent face with good teeth of course, and a good or smaller body; but, I am going to have to agree with Webjay and say that qualities are so variant that I can break the statement I said before as long as she has at least a clear face. I've definately liked chubby/fat girls a few times based off of personality and such, which would come first, but I still would say I shoot for face first.

My only prerequisite is that she plays the violin (or cello) as well or better than I play the piano, and that she loves classical music at least as much as I do.

Face and body are a distant second to that….

So you're saying you would date the fattest, grossest, most heinous cunt on the face of the planet if she can play one of two specific instruments well?

Uh huh. You know what, Ludwig? You can fuck right off and never come back with this shit. I mean, seriously. Get a grip on yourself. The world doesn't benefit from your idiot romanticism bullshit. No, you wouldn't date a heffer because she can draw a bow across a string. So don't sit here and tell people you would. Or maybe the problem is that you can't pull a hot bird?

Either way, leave.

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I remember a guy saying basically the same thing last year. Basically someone who's such a fanboy for his hobby that it becomes a necessity for his partner to regard it as positively is someone who is better off becoming a crazy snake guy.

Maybe it's just me, but it has to be both body and face that are attractive to me. If you have an ugly face and a sexy body, then that person is still unnattractive to me. If a girl has a sexy face and an ugly body, it's still quite unnattractive to me. It has to be both or nothing.

Face first, body second. You can always excercise, burn off the fat and build muscle. Not as easy with a face.

Same thing goes for guys: You can be the most gorgeous man on earth, but all the women that I know wouldn't care about your ass if you're the last guy on earth if you're just a good for nothing son of a gun that can't even do his own dishes/laundry/take out the trash without being told/asked to do so.

What can I say, I've dated guys for looks and had my fun. When it comes to long-term commitment, I want a real man.

Currently I am in a long-term relationship so... yeah, I can't even fathom which aspects of "looks" I'd look for since my priority for boyfriends have always put physical attractiveness at the low end. (^^; It's always been more like, "Hey, he has a sense of humor, is not an idiot, and can cook a mean meal and he's cute to boot!" I have screwed up priorities, I know.

I think anyone who really thinks about it would say something like that. No one wants to spend the rest of their life with someone that they can't stand just because they look good.

To me face and feet are important. Girls can have a nice face but if their feet are all torn up it leads me to believe they live by the motto " if the face looks good, the rest can rot" thus why you come across girls with stinky vage.


I'm guessing I won't have to worry about this for awhile considering I found a girl who puts up with me and my antics.

First impression and most noticeable aspect - face. Unless they'd let everything or certain parts hang out then you'd notice that. Legs are the second most noticeable aspect for me.

Eventually after physical impressions, you have to settle on someone with a great and fun personality. A great conversationalist.

It depends on the guy. for me it's the face. I mean she could have the best boddy ever but I am more for classic beauty, so if she is unbelievably cute with a beautiful smile then thats all she needs.

It really depends on what you're looking for.

Personally, if I wanna hook up with a chick, then a body is what attracts me more.

If you have a pretty face, it is much more likely that I would be attracted to you for a GF rather than a one nighter or sex-buddy.


I've always gone for girls with hella nice bodies. I guess I can't help it.

I like your whole package. ;)

Wow, a creepy desperate guy. We've not had one of those for ages.

Yes, but isn't their presence refreshing?

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face face why is this even an issue?

Sure your abs are a plus, but I'm not going to date you because of it. If you choose body over face you will end up dating someone like this.

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If I choose body or face I'm gonna... I'm gonna be gay?

Gayer than all gay.

Then can I make my vote vagina?

You can if you just sign here. Don't worry about the fine print...

Vagina ALWAYS comes with fine print.

Well, my problem is that I am more interested in a combination of the two. I tend to be a touch shallow when it comes to that department. I would even take both average so long as I didn't have to deal with a bad face or a bad body while the other could be completely angelic. I mean, I know this is rotten of me, but at the same time if I can't see you for your true beauty then would I be worth dating? No.

I think most guys would find the face more important. While all body types are different and girls have different attributes. Body can generally be changed by exercise, diet, and weight gain or loss. A face, however, can only be changed by plastic surgery. If a girl has an unattractive body, it is possible to make it attractive. If a girl has an unattractive face, she is pretty much screwed unless she wants to commit to surgery.

Face. Bodies can change for the better

the most important thing a girl can do is to take care of her face. by taking care, i mean having youthful looks. every man has different preferences but if you have a face of a teenage schoolgirl (but you're not a schoolgirl), then that's your peak. stay young-looking and keep it up as best as you can. nobody likes man-faces on a woman or horse-faces (like sarah jessica parker from sex and the city).

to summarize: youtful schoolgirl face = jackpot.

contrary to popular belief, a woman's body isn't important at all. the rules are simple: don't be fat. that's all you need to do. you don't need to be skinny, or curvy, or bootylicious or whatever. as long as you have a schoolgirl face and you are not fat, every man would dream about sexually penetrating you.

in contrast, the body is extremely important for a man (for attracting girls). a man has to look muscular or athletic and to do that, he'll need to train every day in the gym. a man can have an ugly face but his muscles can make up for it. muscles is a sign that a man can protect a woman's child. sorry to disappoint some of the poserts above, but no woman wants skinny and scrawny video game nerds.

so basically:

for a woman: face = very important. body = entirely optional, just don't be fat.
for a man: face = not too important but body = very important.

for men however, there is one exception to the rule: money. if you're ugly and you're a skinny nerd, your bank account can make up for the other 2 failures. if you're ugly, and you're skinny, and you're poor, then bad luck i guess. buy an onahole or rape someone.

Isn't your ideal girl below the age of 16?

in an ideal world yes, that would be my ideal girl (literally). but it's not an ideal world so I have to make the best of what is available: women who look young.

Face :))