Density of Registered Sex Offenders
 

Umm... I don't know, but it seems like there should be less people free to roam and more people behind bars when you can't put out an apb for a missing girl because:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,280752,00.html

WTF? Are people going to have to start moving to the South Pole to get clear of these pedos? :twitch:

I wonder how easy it is to get one of these brands. I know laws like these are more often than not applied liberally, because *fear*.

Also, "sex offender" != pedophile.

(For those not computationally inclined, != means "does not equal")

There is a registered sex offender who's last known residence was down my street. Some one found the information on line (guessing a neighbor) and found it neccessary to send the information to everyone on the street.

I'm sure the police would issue an announcement if they felt it necessary, but the girl hasn't even been missing for 24 hours yet. This is nothing more than Fox News highlighting a disturbing quote on a slow news day.

I'm sure the only reason such a big deal is being made of such a comment is because the girl was a hot topic earlier this year.

If it were any other 15 year old, the press wouldn't give two shits.

Dude FUCK BELORUS

You can be labeled a sex offender here in Arizona for pissing in an alley while drunk after a night of partying.

I think in pretty much every state indecent exposure is a sex offense, whether or not you're peeing in the bushes or in front of the petting zoo.

What? Since when?

An acquaintance of mine is now a registered sex offender because a 15-year-old girl got drunk and tried to convince him to sleep with her, and he wouldn't - so she told everyone he was trying to coerce her into it, and he had nobody that could testify cause nobody was there. Guilty until proven innocent I guess. So yeah, it's surprisingly easy to get slapped with this if you're not incredibly careful, and even then sometimes...

Especially drunk fifteen year olds? Is no one punishing the girl for drinking underage?

Mooning someone can get you busted for that, too. It actually is rather easy to get the scarlet letter. And then your life is pretty well over, since sex offender = child molestor or violent rapist in most people's minds.

Also, that quote has been excised from the linked story now. Odds are Fox News heard that juicy tidbit and didn't bother to verify their source (or hoped nobody would notice). They kinda tend to do that.

Oh no, she got a minor consumption ticket. Which is only like 50 bucks for anyone under 18 in this state, and 498 for anyone 18-20. But eh.

As for where they were hanging out, I think it was just a big get-together and she was related to the people throwing the party or something.

So really, he should've jsut fucked her then.

I know if some 15 year old asks me for sex I'm just going to have to go along with it for fear of the same thing happening to me. I won't enjoy it though.

http://az.gov/webapp/offender/search...s.do?zip=85710

Sex offenders in my zip code.

The four closest to where I live?

http://az.gov/sows/images/041924.jpghttp://az.gov/sows/images/009024.jpg
http://az.gov/sows/images/p15585.jpghttp://az.gov/sows/images/001577.jpg

(First is sexual battery, second is child molestation and sexual assault, third and fourth are sexual contact with a minor.)

:creepytouch:

FACT: 3/4 of sex offenders have bad mustaches.

I remember reading an article last month where an Arizona student was arrested for downloading 10 cp photos and was sentenced to prison AND had to register as an offender! For looking at pictures!
Don't know if he appealed or not..

Be careful what you download in the U.S.

Remember what curiosity did to the cat.

Looking at pictures that, as child pornography, are illegal to possess in the U.S.

What are you trying to argue here? Are you in favor of legalizing CP?

To be honest, I think the Sex Offender Registry is good and bad.

With everything made public it's possible for vigilantes to kill these people, and that has happened before.

I DO NOT advocate rapists or pedophiles, I actually hate them and wish they would die. But in the end, they're just like us. Human. You can argue semantics if you really want to. But in the end, we're all guilty of something.

Yeah, what could be so bad about murder?

Yeah, but I imagine most people wouldn't equate stealing cable with raping their four year old niece.

But if there was an anti-theft vigilante, you'd be skrew'd.

The whole issue of pedophiles is something that bothers me, as a friend argued with me that they deserve to die, but she does not, because even though she is guilty of crimes, she's not a pedophile.

I don't think that anyone NEEDS to die, but if they DO die, I'll be happier.

So should every crime be equal in the eyes of the law? Stealing a pack of bubblegum is the same as being a serial killer?

When did I imply that?

Maybe it should be, RR. Then we can up all of the sentences and everyone can end up in jail!

Pretty much combining thoughts between:

People feel that sexual crimes deserve harsher penalties than theft. Why? I dunno, I imagine most people feel getting raped by a previously convicted sex offender that you didn't know lived next door is a little bit worse than having your stereo stolen by the guy across the street.

You're upset because this person was arrested for downloading child porn?! These pictures are tagged in a way that lets the Feds know someone downloads them because child porn is ILLEGAL.

He has no grounds for an appeal--or for sympathy, for that matter.

Well hey, let's say he was on 4chan's /b/ and some asshole posts child porn. Guy happens to be from Arizona. Is it fair that he should go to jail b/c some asshole in New Guinea or whatever posts some pictures and a thumnail of it goes into his cash? You go to jail b/c anonymous is a pedo asshole and you happened to live in Arizona? That's fair?

Acer--he clicked "save." There's a difference, you know.

To be honest, I don't know how many sex offenders repeat their offenses, even though it's just a hypothetical situation.

When did I say that they do not deserve harsh(er) penalties? I just said that someone doesn't NEED to die solely based on a crime. Before you point out serial killers, serial rapists, and serial pedophiles... I just have to say, SERIAL. It means they're prone to repeat it. As I stated before, (I believe or was it in chat?) there was a house with two sex offenders living together, who had not repeat offended in years (or at all, it was a one time thing), and they both lived together and helped each other out. Some dude got a hold of Sex Registry information, went to their house, and shot them. They were not repeat offenders.

I am of the opinion that we have no real rights to say who can live and who can die. I know that doesn't jive well with the current government and the current laws, but that is my belief. I know, I act like and come off like everyone should die, but I do not hold that belief.

My friend said that pedophiles need to die as if she was judge, jury, and executioner. They ARE human too. I mean, I'd hate it if someone was like "You did this. You deserve to die."

I imagine the feds have become familiar with places that tend to have those sorts of things spammed on them even though they're illegal and they probably won't hold it against the people who most likely viewed the image without the intent to.

Additional Spam:
Actually, I was curious, and tried to look at how likely someone is to commit another sexual-based offense.

And on and on with more junk. Not really posting that aimed at you rit, just posting it for general information for people reading the thread.

Also, I imagine that guy that went and killed the two sex offenders could have just looked in court records for a trial involving a sex offender, and used any of the internet lookup services to find out where they were currently living and done the same thing.

Actually, you're quite right about that one. I forgot that court records are actually public. The reason why it got so much attention though, was because he used the Sex Offender Registry.

I actually feel bad for the two guys who were killed, since they tried to get on with their lives and tried living a normal life with each others support.

I did a check, and the only thing I could find was about Morton Berger--a former high school TEACHER with 20 cp pictures.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/27/wa...rssnyt&emc=rss

He was sentenced for 200 years.....

(and he is from Arizona)

The jury I was on a few years ago convicted a man of child molestation and child pornography. The judge came in after the trial and basically told us that the sentence given to the defendant would probably put him in jail for the rest of his life (he was in his 50s if I remember). I think someone asked which one was the harsher punishment and he said either one would be too big for him to ever get out alive.

I have. Right in front of lab monitors, too.

A friend of mine, who works at Fascinations (an adult store in the US), says that, if you steal from the store, you are labeled a sex offender, and can be arrested if you try and enter the store again. (Among other fun things)

I don't know if the law has different levels of severity of sexual offenses, but in society's eyes, they're all labeled the same.

I dunno; it's terrifying to think that there's people who were found guilty for these crimes but, at the same time, it doesn't seem fair to group everyone under "child-molester/rapist/socially-indept" or whatever.

Just throwing out a questions here, if anyone's able to answer it: are sexual offenses different for every state in the US?

I'd always heard in that past that the recidivism rate was pretty high among rapists, but a quick bit of poking around seems to mostly mirror what I found in this document. Namely, that sex offenders actually aren't very likely to commit another sex crime.

As a counter point, it's also worth noting that rapes frequently go unreported. Recidivism among such sex offenders is probably reported as being a lot lower than it actually is. How much its being underreported, I couldn't say.

Still, there's a lingering and unfair sentiment that once you've committed a given crime, you're destined to do it again. On top of that, people have a pretty warped view of what the justice system is for. Rehabilitation is the most ideal goal, but people primarily want revenge. They don't want that pedophile to undergo counseling and learn to control his urges so as to safely re-enter society, they want him to fucking DIE because he's obviously not a human being, just a child-molesting monster.

The more I think about it, the more I dislike the whole idea of a sex offender registry. Essentially, it's presuming guilt before it's been proven, fueled by anecdotal superstitions.

Well, it's not the therapy system, it's the justice system.

Rehabilitation is part of it but, in the case of child sex abusers, you're right at least from my standpoint. I don't give a fuck if these people rehabilitate, I don't ever want them walking the streets again. And if they do walk the streets, I sure as fuck don't want to live next to them if I have children. Rights of people with priors or not, my kids would be the absolute most important thing and I want to know if I have any reason to be more cautious than normal.

They aren't all different, but each state may set its own laws.

Monkey King, I had actually found a pretty source I posted above in some quotes. It's a lot more thorough than I put in my post and the page was a bit massive for me to feel like sitting through at the time. It's probably a good read if you're interested in the subject, though.

Well, also, apparently almost half of rape claims are falsified, so it kind of evens out with the ones that go unreported.

I know A LOT of girls who have cried rape. It's pretty pathetic, to be honest.

It's a lot higher than you would think.

I can't seem to find any sort of statistics on falsified rape claims or the like. =\

I imagine that women are less willing to report a rape than willing to because of all the social stigma that's still attached to it.