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Matt May 31, 2007 10:08 PM

Guitar Hero III
 
Guitar Hero III is coming out for the PS2, PS3, Wii, and XB360 sometime later this year.
The graphics look about the same, even with the next-gen versions, but those have never mattered now have they?

I recently found a small track listing over at IGN that should pique your interests until more info comes out on downloadable content, how the Wii version will play, and what other songs will be included:
  • Paint It Black: The Rolling Stones
  • Cherub Rock: Smashing Pumpkins
  • Sabotage: Beastie Boys
  • The Metal: Tenacious D
  • My Name is Jonas: Weezer
  • Knights of Cydonia : Muse
  • Rock And Roll All Nite: Kiss
  • School's Out: Alice Cooper
  • Slow Ride: Fog Hat
  • Cult of Personality: Living Colour
  • Barracuda: Heart
  • Evenflow: Pearl Jam
  • Lay Down: Priestess

Also, get this, "For Guitar Hero III, roughly half of the songs will be master tracks." :fap:

Inhert May 31, 2007 10:21 PM

I really wanted to buy this game but I bought a ps3 and didn't wanted to plug my ps2 only for this game so I decided to wait for this ^^

I'm not all into "rock" music but the game seem so much fun to play that I have to try it!. and I have to say that I'm pretty happy with this little track list since I like most of those song (especially paint in black and knight of cydonia)

I can't wait to try this on my ps3 with hopefully a wireless guitar XD

Slayer X May 31, 2007 10:42 PM

That's the best part. It has already been confirmed that the guitar gor GHIII WILL be wireless.

Dopefish May 31, 2007 10:48 PM

I guess I'll be forced to buy this for the PS2.

The track list already looks like a better one than GH1 and 2.

Paco May 31, 2007 11:37 PM

A MUSE track?! A FUCKING MUSE TRACK!?!?! <3~

I'll probably get this for Xbox 360 since I plan on having one later on this year as well. Can't wait until they unveil more tracks.

WolfDemon Jun 1, 2007 12:06 AM

Haha, Tenacious D AND Muse. Awesome. Knights of Cydonia is good, but I think they should've gone with Stockholm Syndrome. Can't wait to see more tracks. I might get it for 360 if it's not fuckin $90. :mad:

Rock Jun 1, 2007 05:04 AM

Tracklist sounds awesome so far, but I hope they make at least the PS2 version compatible with the GH1/2 controllers, or else I won't spend my money on it.

RacinReaver Jun 1, 2007 04:11 PM

Those songs look pretty good so far, hopefully the same quality will be around for all the later tracks they're releasing.

Also hoping for less disparity between the tracks I like and don't like in this one. GH1 had a few tracks I didn't like, but unlike GH2 there weren't any I felt were just awful to listen to.

eprox1 Jun 1, 2007 06:43 PM

Videos

I've been hearing a lot of people say it looks very different from the other two game and weird, but I think it looks just fine...I assume everyone is talking about the HUD display (or whatever it's called)?

acid Jun 1, 2007 09:12 PM

I play the first two for PS2 religiously. I would have re-bought it for 360 is they hadn't fucked up the controller so much. The goddam Explorer is smaller than the SG and the fret buttons are closer together.

But this time, 360 controller will be a Les Paul.

Fucking sold.

wvlfpvp Jun 1, 2007 09:28 PM

Sweet. I recognize most of those.

YO PITTSBURGH MIKE HERE Jun 2, 2007 12:52 AM

Oh god, Paint It Black. Consider it sold.

Guru Jun 2, 2007 01:10 AM

Cherub Rock is pretty much awesome, FYI. Smashing Pumpkins, hell yeah. Opening track off of what is widely considered their best work, ever.

Guitar Hero is such a cash cow now, labels aren't even hesitating to license their songs out. This is good stuff... but lets just hope they don't add too much butt rock stuff. If a Nickeback song gets on there somehow, someone will be shot.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jun 2, 2007 01:40 AM

I suppose Alice Cooper, Foghat and the Stones are a good choice.

But the series would be a hell of a lot better if you could somehow choose your own tracks and the game somehow interpreted the music and gave you fingering patterns to correspond. They may not be the most challenging, but it'd be awesome in groups and it'd sure beat the hell out of wasting your time and energy on music you can't stand.

Working through all those tracks just to unlock a collection of drivel was anti-climactic. One song by Strong Bad didn't make up for 20 tracks that were basically "Generic Nu-Metal Song X" by "Angry, Loud Screaming Guys Nobody Ever Heard Of".

RacinReaver Jun 2, 2007 12:15 PM

You could always try Frets on Fire, a PC-based clone with a shitload of songs that people have released tracks for. Of course, that game has the same problem that your idea would, in that they'd have a pretty hard time muting the guitar track alone whenever you screwed up. I've always felt that's one of the things that made Guitar Hero so much more interactive than rhythm games like DDR.

burn Jun 2, 2007 05:51 PM

nice. .

looks like i'll have to buy [guitar hero encore: rocks the 80s] just to tide me over til 3 drops. .XD

Krelian Jun 2, 2007 10:49 PM

Paint It Black and School's Out oh love.

I personally loved the metalfest that was GH2, though - Maybe Guitar Hero AWESOME ROADRUNNER NUCLEAR BLAST SPINEFARM edition will materialise one day. Perhaps there's even a custom PS2 iso of that ilk already floating around.

wvlfpvp Jun 3, 2007 03:06 PM

No. A The End / Century Media metalfest would be better.




*imagines playing Shitstorm or You Suck on GH.*

GameInfarcer Jun 20, 2007 11:26 PM

Cherub Rock: Smashing Pumpkins - This is the one I'm most excited for, as I'm a HUGE Pumpkins fan. It's known that this one is indeed a master track.
Knights of Cydonia : Muse - Not a fan of this particular track, but I love Muse, so I'm glad to see this on there.
Paint It Black: The Rolling Stones - I love this song. It was just completely haunting at the end of Full Metal Jacket. This one's also a master track!

Greykin Aug 3, 2007 02:27 PM

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6176039...stnews;title;1

My guitar hero dream has come true, Metallica is now part of the list.

dagget Aug 3, 2007 02:31 PM

I saw Dragonforge on that list... my fingers are screaming in pain as we speak.

Wall Feces Aug 3, 2007 02:55 PM

It better be a good Metllica song... I'm beyond disappointed that Rock Band got Enter Sandman out of all the other great songs that came before Black album.

EDIT:

Quote:

Activision stated in a conference call today that Metallica will be in Guitar Hero 3 : Legends of Rock. The song being Metallica's "One" and of course it's a master track.


"Following the conference call, we followed up with Activision regarding the Metallica news. A representative confirmed not only that Metallica will be in Guitar Hero III, but that the song One will be a master track. One is from Metallica's "...And Justice For All" album released in 1988. It's also the very first song that Metallica produced a rock video for." [Cited from biz.gamedaily.com]
Raining Blood is the best news I've heard regarding GH3. I've been dying to play Slayer for some time now!

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Render Aug 3, 2007 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagget (Post 483878)
I saw Dragonforge on that list... my fingers are screaming in pain as we speak.

ITT, you feel the burrrrrn. :gonk:

YouTube Video

Golfdish from Hell Aug 3, 2007 03:01 PM

Nice..."Rain in Blood" got added as well. I imagine "Angel of Death" would have broken too many guitar controllers.

Hoping for "Ride the Lightning" or "Enter Sandman" for the Metallica slot. Also want to see Megadeth come back for another round. It'd be counterproductive if we gain Metallica and Slayer, but lose Megadeth from GH...Also, I'd like a Motley Crue song that's actually fun to play, instead of boring, old "Shout at the Devil".

Really looking forward to this one. I was sold as soon as they announced "Welcome to the Jungle". Oh and an appearance by Slash doesn't hurt. Not everyday god graces a videogame.

guyinrubbersuit Aug 3, 2007 03:18 PM

I'm glad that Raining Blood is in there. That song is awesome. Now I demand a full album download of Reign In Blood, Seasons in the Abyss and South of Heaven.

Oh and full album download of Ride the Lightning.

espressivo Aug 3, 2007 06:31 PM

Yea, I'm hoping for another Megadeth song, preferably holy wars. I want some Dream Theater as well! Anyone have any idea if Freezepop is going to make another appearance? I know it's not harmonix game anymore but i'm still hoping they come back since their songs were pretty fun and challenging to play.

Anyway, what was up with that 80s thing? I hope it's not a sign that bonus songs are going away because I enjoyed a lot of them.

dagget Aug 3, 2007 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Render (Post 483888)
ITT, you feel the burrrrrn. :gonk:

YouTube Video

good lord... ;_;

Golfdish from Hell Aug 3, 2007 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by espressivo (Post 483974)
Anyway, what was up with that 80s thing? I hope it's not a sign that bonus songs are going away because I enjoyed a lot of them.

I don't know...I'm an 80's whore (and a lot of my favorite bands are on it...yay, Poison!), but 30 songs or so for $50 is a ripoff. $30...maybe. Hopefully, it'll drop in price by the time GH3 comes around. I hear GH3 will be closer to 70-ish songs.

Megadeth should go the Velvet Revolver route and try to get one of the songs from their recent album in. That's good marketing right there, on VR's part (and "She Builds Quick Machines" is a great song anyway). "Washington is Next!" would do just fine with me.

wvlfpvp Aug 3, 2007 10:35 PM

So, where's my Thunderstruck? It's the only AC/DC song that needs to be on there.

YO PITTSBURGH MIKE HERE Aug 5, 2007 05:04 PM

Dragonforce is crazy.

YouTube Video

eprox1 Aug 5, 2007 08:43 PM

That video was posted on the previous page.

I don't even know how people can do that. Hitting the right notes is the least of my worries when I can't even strum that fast.

YO PITTSBURGH MIKE HERE Aug 5, 2007 08:45 PM

Ah, sorry about that. Still, it's just ridiculous.

Golfdish from Hell Aug 5, 2007 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueBomber (Post 485286)
I don't even know how people can do that. Hitting the right notes is the least of my worries when I can't even strum that fast.

Learn to strum up and down. I can't handle a lot of songs on hard yet (just got it about a week and a half ago), but it works so much cleaner than just downstrokes and it really makes a difference when the stuff comes flying at you at high speeds (and especially during excessively long chains of a single note/chord). I sometimes strum too fast for medium speed now without realizing it.

wvlfpvp Aug 5, 2007 11:12 PM

So, is it possible to fret tap on some of the stuff? I can tap on an actual guitar, but when I'm doing that, it's up on the 15th fret and up, not at about the 6th fret where the orange is. I can't move my stumming hand that fast and accurately.

Chaotic Aug 5, 2007 11:58 PM

I'm gonna cry trying "Through Fire and Flames". T_T

I can't do Misorlou let alone even attempt at that... Considering that i'm not the most hardcore of rock fans, I'm hoping there's gonna at least be one song to spark my interest.

Paco Aug 11, 2007 07:05 PM

I've been watching gameplay videos over the past couple of days and I gotta say one thing... I don't really like the new "look" too much. It's like Neversoft (who, I only yesterday found out was at the helm of this, as opposed to Red Octane) wanted to clean up and smooth out every bit of its predecessors and um, you know, that was kind of part of the charm of the series, if not one of its largest parts.

There are now reportedly "story mode" cutscenes just to eliminate the crude hand-drawn map of GHII in between venues, and while I'm all for making the game look crisp and polished, even the awesome little effects I fell in love with in the first two games, like the vector flames that appear when you're wailing on note streaks have now been replaced by more realistic-looking ones. This is all great, but I'm going to miss a lot of those little details. :(

Also, there's still no Zeppelin track in this game. This is greatly disturbing.
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Golfdish from Hell Aug 14, 2007 01:37 AM

Okay, I'm officially hyped for this..."Talk Dirty to Me" (Poison) has been confirmed to be in it. Can't wait to see the solo section for that one.

"CC...Pick up that guitar and'a...TALK TO ME!" (Song fails 7 seconds later under barrage of notes). Can't wait for the masochism!

On the same hand...I wonder where the Rock Band updates are?

Enceph: Yeah, I think a lot of the "grassroots" feel of GH2 might be lost for stuff with higher production values. As long as they don't screw up the main gameplay though, I'll be playing this for a long time. The boss battles look like a cool addition to the main gameplay.

I'm pulling for Zeppelin/Stairway too, but I don't foresee it being the beast Freebird was if it gets in. Maybe as an encore for level 3-5, but not the "final boss" song.

Slayer X Aug 14, 2007 05:53 PM

More tracks announced. Here's an updated tracklist.

Bolded songs are MASTER TRACKS

"3's and 7's" – Queens of the Stone Age
"Barracuda" – Heart
"Cherub Rock" – Smashing Pumpkins
"Cities on Flame with Rock and Roll" – Blue Öyster Cult
"Cult of Personality" – Living Colour
"Even Flow" – Pearl Jam

"Go That Far" – Bret Michaels Band
"Knights of Cydonia" – Muse

"La Grange" – ZZ Top
"Lay Down" – Priestess
"The Metal" – Tenacious D
"Miss Murder" – AFI

"Mississippi Queen" – Mountain
"My Name Is Jonas" – Weezer
"The Number of the Beast" – Iron Maiden
"One" – Metallica
"Paint It, Black" – The Rolling Stones

"Paranoid" – Black Sabbath
"Raining Blood" – Slayer
"Reptilia" – The Strokes
"Rock and Roll All Nite" – Kiss
"Rock You Like a Hurricane" – Scorpions
"Sabotage" – Beastie Boys
"School's Out" – Alice Cooper
"She Bangs The Drums" – The Stone Roses
"She Builds Quick Machines" – Velvet Revolver

"Slow Ride" – Foghat
"Suck My Kiss" – Red Hot Chili Peppers
"Talk Dirty to Me" - Poison
"Through the Fire and Flames" – DragonForce
"Welcome to the Jungle" – Guns N' Roses

Paco Aug 19, 2007 03:45 AM

Of all A.F.I. songs, why the fuck would they pick Miss Murder? :(

Then again... I was never able to rationalize why, of all of Aerosmith's songs, they chose Last Child as an encore in GH2.

Golfdish from Hell Aug 19, 2007 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Encephalon (Post 491980)
Then again... I was never able to rationalize why, of all of Aerosmith's songs, they chose Last Child as an encore in GH2.

Enlarged for emphasis. Terrible choice. I don't even listen to it on my Aerosmith comp and there's nothing that stands out about actually playing it. "Walk This Way" was made for being featured in GH.

Similarly...If they're going to insist on shoving Nirvana in all of these games, where is Teen Spirit?

wvlfpvp Aug 20, 2007 11:20 AM

Not there because their massively huge first hit single is not their best song.

Paco Aug 31, 2007 09:47 AM

Minor update here, since new tracks have been announced.

"Minus Celsius" by Backyard Babies
"Hier Kommt Alex" by Die Toten Hosen
"In the Belly of a Shark" by Gallows
"I'm in the Band" by The Hellacopters
"Avalancha" by Heroes Del Silencio (?)
"Take This Life" by In Flames
"Ruby" by Kaiser Chiefs
"Closer" by Lacuna Coil
"Generation Rock" by Revolverheld
"Mauvais Garcon" by NAAST
"Radio Song" by Superbus

Not sure which are master tracks but I think I'm not alone here when I say that I'm INCREDIBLY surprised that a Spanish rock track has been included this time around. Heroes Del Silencio are an old-school rock band who broke up in the mid-90's. They were VERY popular during the 90's though and their guitar work was pretty furious shit. Even though I never really got into them, I'm glad to see the series branching out into other languages.

Only a matter of time before they put in a Kaizers Orchestra track. <3

RacinReaver Aug 31, 2007 11:15 AM

I've never heard of any of them. :(

Rock Aug 31, 2007 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Encephalon (Post 497547)
Heroes Del Silencio are an old-school rock band who broke up in the mid-90's. They were VERY popular during the 90's though and their guitar work was pretty furious shit. Even though I never really got into them, I'm glad to see the series branching out into other languages.

They could at least have had the decency to put in "Entre Dos Tierras", but no ... -__-

All in all, a very "Europeanish" tracklist so far.

Lukage Aug 31, 2007 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacinReaver (Post 497575)
I've never heard of any of them. :(

Ditto.

Also, I just played the first one a few weeks ago for the first time, then played the second. Why the heck is Dueling Banjos not in this game? :(

Golfdish from Hell Aug 31, 2007 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Encephalon (Post 497547)
Even though I never really got into them, I'm glad to see the series branching out into other languages.

Considering Midori (the new character) and the type of gameplay the series is rooted in, I'd say we can expect at least one Japanese song as well for the final tracklist. I'm actually surprised there isn't a Japan-only edition of GH. I wonder how this game is received over there...

But yeah, never heard of any of the European bands in the update either (I've HEARD of Lacuna Coil, but haven't heard any of their songs).

I'm just hoping the remaining 24 slots or so aren't just no-name local bands and they have some more big surprises. And who is this other recognizable guitarist they promise going to be? Money's on either Buckethead or Eddie Van Halen (especially with the big reunion).

wvlfpvp Aug 31, 2007 04:25 PM

Oh, like some of those no-name local bands didn't have decent songs.

"Sail Your Ship By" is awesome.

Golfdish from Hell Aug 31, 2007 04:47 PM

Sorry to say, but given the choice between my favorite bands and another group of no-names like in GH2 with about 3 songs between them I'd listen to IRL (and one of them being "Jordan" with BH not exactly being a no-namer)...I'm pulling for the big label guys here to fill out the tracklist. The best thing about GH is playing songs you actually want to hear IRL (and finding new ones at that...Wolfmother = <3)...Which is why I'm probably one of the only people who can justify the pricetag of Rock the 80's, since I like 90% of the songs (Holy Diver is the only song I can't stand and while I like We Got the Beat and Wrathchild, there are better Go-Go's/Iron Maiden songs...We Got the Beat is actually pretty obnoxious to play). That, and the delicious irony of playing "Turning Japanese" is almost worth the price of admission.

Random questions: Does anyone know anything about a demo, preferably the PS2 version? And how late was GH2's songlist finalized before it was actually released?

Krelian Aug 31, 2007 05:52 PM

Take This Life? Oh god I can't wait for this.

Paco Sep 1, 2007 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldfishX (Post 497674)
Sorry to say, but given the choice between my favorite bands and another group of no-names like in GH2 with about 3 songs between them I'd listen to IRL (and one of them being "Jordan" with BH not exactly being a no-namer)...I'm pulling for the big label guys here to fill out the tracklist. The best thing about GH is playing songs you actually want to hear IRL (and finding new ones at that...Wolfmother = <3)...

Shit... The fuck do you know about music? Some of the best tracks in Guitar Hero II were the bonus tracks by the so-called "no name bands". (Bang Camaro, The Last Vegas, All That Remains, Honest Bob & The Factory To Dealer Incentives, The Acro-bats, The Amazing Crowns, Vagiant, Freezepop, etc.) In the first game my favorite song in the game is still one of the bonus tracks. (Shaimus - All Of This) My complaint about them has nothing to do with the choice of music but the fact that you get no cash for playing live gigs with those songs. Point is: The bonus tracks add to an already awesome set list as well as introduce people to new bands.

Having said that, I am rooting for more indie labels to drop some tracks in this game even though I know that it's not really likely to happen as much, since Neversoft has already announced that even some well-known bands that have been announced for this installment won't have a spot in the setlist and will instead be relegated to the Bonus Tracks. :(

Slayer X Sep 1, 2007 09:40 PM

"...Neversoft has already announced that even some well-known bands that have been announced for this installment ..."

You mean like DragonForce ;)

Also the international tracks that will appear in Europe's career mode, will be bonus tracks on the american game. There had better be Ramstein *shakes fist*

Lastly the only shitty bonus song in GHII is ("Yes We Can" kill ourselves after listening to this) which I refuse to buy and is the only thing keeping me from the all songs unlocked achievement. But yes the rest rock. Light that Blinds, Jordan, Push Push, Thunderhorse, Trogdor, ... all ROCK!!!

Paco Sep 1, 2007 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer X (Post 498228)
Lastly the only shitty bonus song in GHII is ("Yes We Can" kill ourselves after listening to this) which I refuse to buy and is the only thing keeping me from the all songs unlocked achievement.

You know, that track wasn't all THAT bad but godDAMNIT was it boring as fuck to play on Medium. You have to play that thing on Expert if you want to get more than a few hundred strums at the guitar and I agree; it IS the worst song in the game. They had a better selection in the first game though (Farewell Myth) so at least we know the band itself isn't a total waste of vinyl space.

Golfdish from Hell Sep 1, 2007 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Encephalon (Post 498224)
Shit... The fuck do you know about music?

Well (the bands/songs I already knew I liked aside) the bands I didn't know or hadn't heard in the main setlist (which, admittedly, was quite a few) generally had good songs, while I was torn between buying new outfits/characters/guitars and what I heard of the bonus songs. Does that count as musical knowledge?

Nothing against indie labels, I'd just rather increase my chances of finding songs I like and want to play in the game.

wvlfpvp Sep 2, 2007 07:14 PM

I ONLY LIKE MUSIC I'VE HEARD BEFORE!

BlueMikey Sep 2, 2007 07:28 PM

I was just thinking that it would be nice if there was a non-rock genre version of the game released sometime. I'm thinking like a jazz/blues version, with some Pat Metheny, some George Benson, some Django Reinhart, B.B. King, etc., etc. I know there was a Stevie Ray Vaughn on the first one, but I'd like to see a whole non-rock sequel.

wvlfpvp Sep 2, 2007 07:42 PM

SRV is blues/rock, not strictly blues.

Slayer X Sep 2, 2007 07:45 PM

Either way, due to the amount of time it takes to make a game (about 1 year) and since Rock/Metal is already a proven money maker I don't think you'll see a specific blues/roch Guitar Hero, but hey, you never know what songs are going to be announced next for the core series.

Krelian Sep 2, 2007 08:44 PM

Well I've heard that the EU version will have Helloween as one of the "exclusive" artists.

Better have some FUCK YEAH \m/ Scandinavian shit, too.

Golfdish from Hell Sep 2, 2007 09:00 PM

I was hoping for something along the lines of GH Encore: Neoclassical Shredfest (Marty Friedman, Malmsteem, Becker, Satriani, etc). That'd be some serious fun.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krelian (Post 498643)
Well I've heard that the EU version will have Helloween as one of the "exclusive" artists.

...

Fuck, lucky bastards. Everytime I hear "We Damn the Night" or "I'm Alive", I think how perfect they'd be for GH. Or better yet..."Seven Keys". 13 minutes of hand-cramping goodness.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wvlfpvp
I ONLY LIKE MUSIC I'VE HEARD BEFORE!

For some reason, this quote reminds me of the logic of the clock loop when modding an Xbox. *shrug*

Lukage Sep 2, 2007 11:24 PM

Goldfish, I think one of the points of the game is to let people play along to titles they know and love, not to sell some artist's generic "rock" song. I could list a hundred Classic Rock artists that would go well with the game.

Slayer X Sep 2, 2007 11:53 PM

You could list a million. However the problem isn't a lack of songs, it all depends on how cooperative music labels are in giving the rights to Activision to let them use their songs.

Golfdish from Hell Sep 3, 2007 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukage (Post 498683)
Goldfish, I think one of the points of the game is to let people play along to titles they know and love, not to sell some artist's generic "rock" song. I could list a hundred Classic Rock artists that would go well with the game.

I...don't understand what this is in response to. :confused: If anything, I agree with this statement (which is why I said I'd rather see "familiar" bands than indies).

Lukage Sep 3, 2007 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldfishX (Post 498696)
I...don't understand what this is in response to. :confused: If anything, I agree with this statement (which is why I said I'd rather see "familiar" bands than indies).

It was in response to your reply to wvlfpvp. And I don't just mean a bunch of overrated AC/DC songs. Dueling banjos, for Christ's sake. Led Zeppelin, etc. You'd think that with the size of a DVD or Blu-Ray disk, they could put TONS of songs on these. Cramming it full of songs we've never really heard of isn't what most people want. Yes, some hardcore players will want something challenging, but the majority of people playing simply want songs that they're familiar with.

Golfdish from Hell Sep 3, 2007 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukage (Post 498704)
It was in response to your reply to wvlfpvp. And I don't just mean a bunch of overrated AC/DC songs. Dueling banjos, for Christ's sake. Led Zeppelin, etc. You'd think that with the size of a DVD or Blu-Ray disk, they could put TONS of songs on these. Cramming it full of songs we've never really heard of isn't what most people want. Yes, some hardcore players will want something challenging, but the majority of people playing simply want songs that they're familiar with.

Didn't I basically say that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Me, about 6-7 posts down
Nothing against indie labels, I'd just rather increase my chances of finding songs I like and want to play in the game.

(I think wvlfpvp was being sarcastic, in response to my "no-name" bands comments...My clock-loop response just treated that literally, since you can't discover something new if you keep listening to the same thing obviously)

And...AC/DC is not overrated. ;)

wvlfpvp Sep 3, 2007 10:09 AM

Yes they are. I just want Thunderstruck on there because it'd be fun to play.

Paco Sep 6, 2007 11:38 PM

Fuck yeah it'd be fun as fuck to play! I mean, shit... I STILL hate Guns 'N Roses, but I'll be damned if Sweet Child 'O Mine isn't one of my favorite tracks to play in GHII~

Slayer X Oct 18, 2007 07:39 PM

For thoes interested. You can either download via BitTorrent or copy someone else's GH3 demo disc of the GH3 demo for the 360 (either the Tony Hawk: Proving ground, or OXM's December issue's disc). That's right. You can play a burnt copy of the demo without having to actually mod your console. How cool is that?

So what are you waiting for? Go find a means to download this hot piece of free content.

Golfdish from Hell Oct 18, 2007 08:18 PM

Woohoo...Midnight release on the 27th, along with a tournament at Gamestop.

On the other hand...Boo! No PS2 demo! Although, I like the look of the wireless guitar for the PS2 more than the Les Pauls on the other systems. If I burn through my GH2 SG Gibson, I have a solid alternative. Although, on second look, that select button looks awfully close to the whammy bar...

And finally...BOOO! We go from 2 confirmed Velvet Revolver songs to...none. Guess a confirmation from Duff isn't good enough. I wish they'd confirm the final song list (hoping they get the rumored Megadeth song)

dagget Oct 20, 2007 11:43 PM

New issue of PSM has the tracklist.


It was also given a 9.0 out of 10:

As made famous are listed with a * beside it

Bulls on Parade (by Rage Against the Machine)
Miss Murder (AFI)
Through the Fire and Flames (Dragonforce)
Number of the Beast (Iron Maiden)
3's and 7's (Queens of the Stone Age)
Suck My Kiss (Red Hot Chili Peppers)
Raining Blood (Slayer!!)
Reptillia (The Strokes)
Paranoid* (Black Sabbath)
Cities on Flame* (Blue Oyster Cult)
Mississippi Queen* (Mountain)
La Grange* (ZZ Top)
Welcome to the Jungle (Guns n Roses)
Paint it Black (Rolling Stones)
Cherub Rock (Smashing Pumpkins)
Sabotage (Beastie Boys)
The Meat (Tenacious D)
My Name is Jonas (Weezer)
Knights of Cyndonia (Muse)
Even Flow (Pearl Jam)
Lay Down (Priestess)
Monsters (Matchbook Romance)
Before I forget (Slipknot)
Kool Thing (Sonic Youth)
When You Were Young (The Killers)
Cult of Personality (Living Colour)
Slash's Original Boss Battle Recording
Tom Morello's Original Boss Battle Recording
Sam Old Song and Dance (Aerosmith)
Helicopter (Block Party)
Stricken (Disturbed)
Minus Celsius (Backyard babies)
Hier Kommt Alex (Die Toten Hosen)
In the Belly of a Shark (Gallows)
Avalancha (Heroes Del Silencio)
Take This Life (In Flames)
Ruby (Kaiser Chiefs)
Closer (Lacuna Coil)
Generation Rock (Revolverhead)
Mauvais Garcon (NAAST)
Radio Song (Superbus)
Rock and Roll All Nite (Kiss)
School's Out (Alice Cooper)
Rock You Like a Hurricane* (The Scorpions)
Slow Ride* (Foghat)
Barracuda* (Heart)
Sunshine of Your Love* (Cream)
Cliffs of Dover* (Eric Johnson)
Hit Me With Your Best Shot* (Pat Benetar)
Story of My Life* (Social Distortion)
Black Magic Woman* (Santana)
The Devil Went Down to Georgia* (Charlie Daniel's Band)
Holiday in Cambodia* (Dead Kennedys)
Pride and Joy* (Stevie Ray Vaughn)
The Seeker* (The Who)
White Zombie* (Black Sunshine)

AlphaDeus Oct 21, 2007 06:39 PM

Quote:

The Meat (Tenacious D)
I lol'ed =p

Looking forward to this game. :P

deadally Oct 21, 2007 07:08 PM

I think that should be "The Metal," fine sir

espressivo Oct 21, 2007 07:12 PM

Sweet, cliffs of dover is in. That'd be so fun to play, too bad its not the original recording though.

Krelian Oct 21, 2007 07:31 PM

I'm assuming that doesn't include the bonus tracks. Hoping. Assuming. Hoping.

There's a video floating around of the guys from In Flames playing their song at some Swedish gaming event, it's pretty rad! They're not very good at it.

RYU Oct 21, 2007 07:33 PM

download and burn a free legal Guitar Heros 3 demo

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DarthSavior Oct 22, 2007 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagget (Post 518908)
New issue of PSM has the tracklist.

....

I thought Metallica was gonna have a song in this... did they back out?

dagget Oct 22, 2007 07:47 PM

I don't think they had all the songs, to be honest. I wrote out the list under monitor light so I apologize if I mispelled any songs before people start jumping down my throat about it.

Any word if the GH3 controller will work with the other Guitar hero games? Only controller I have is the PS2 corded one and I know there hasn't been a successful add-on for the PS3 to hook the guitar up to it.

Dizzy Oct 22, 2007 08:21 PM

oh man...no "God Gave Rock & Roll to You"?

I soooo want to recreate the scene from Bill & Ted :(

Paco Oct 23, 2007 02:19 AM

Just pre-ordered my copy and I'm picking it up at GayStop this coming Saturday. <3

I should also take this time to point out that I'm still bitterly disappointed that no Zeppelin track made it onto the game. :mad:

The_Griffin Oct 23, 2007 05:12 AM

Is there a certain Zeppelin track you would've liked to see?

Personally, I'm a little surprised there's no mention of Stairway to Heaven, since in GH1 they joked about not playing Freebird, and GH2 joked about Stairway and... well, had Freebird in it.

AlphaDeus Oct 23, 2007 08:23 PM

I thought it was a funny typo, wasn't really bashing you or anything. Because I started writing a "The Meat" song in my head (where you basically replace stuff like Techno and Punk with Poultry and vegetables :p) Unintentional hilarity!

I'm looking forward to playing it. I'm going to a Guitar Hero tournament Saturday Night at a gamestop near me that is having a midnight launch. Someone got the game early and has been posting videos left and right on youtube. I watched a few of them and it looks like it's going to be the hardest one yet. Speaking of which, Metallica's "One" is in the game, and it has a ridiculous solo :D

I'm gonna try my best to get a good spot on the leaderboards. Hopefully with all the new code, there won't be any glitches or cheats to ruin the leaderboards like what happened to the 360 version. I'd probably be in the top 200 out of the 600k people if it wasn't for the glitch (and the fact that I don't play often :/)

dagget Oct 23, 2007 11:47 PM

I've pretty much given up hopes of being an awesome Guitar Hero. My pinky doesn't feel like cooperating with me half the time while also my PS2 is DYING as I have a little lag sometimes going on a few random times.

I'm still debating about throwing down $100 on this and whether or not if I'll play online with you guys. (I'm still trying to get on LIVE in general and that's not happening as I planned on. :|)

Golfdish from Hell Oct 24, 2007 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagget (Post 520779)
I've pretty much given up hopes of being an awesome Guitar Hero. My pinky doesn't feel like cooperating with me half the time while also my PS2 is DYING as I have a little lag sometimes going on a few random times.

Yeah, same here...I fired my pinkie and I just shift my other three fingers down the frets whenever possible (I only use it when I get a scale of 4-5 notes in a row). That was when my scores started to improve a lot. I've got to the point where I feel like I'm mashing, then I look up and I still have a streak alive. Then I overstrum from the excitement. :tpg:

I'll probably end up online, since I'm really interested in Rock Band (and Puzzle Fighter!), but for now, it's PS2 for me. No plans on cracking the leaderboards, unless I get snowed in and I end up with endless free time to get amazing at it.

dagget Oct 24, 2007 12:58 AM

I started doing that subconsciously, myself. Although I'll admit I haven't moved up to hard mode yet, I still play on normal. I don't know if I'd be able to handle tagging the orange fret when it gets tossed out. Maybe if I play a bit more seriously than I do, I could...

DarthSavior Oct 24, 2007 03:19 AM

The solo for Metallica's "One" is just insane..... Just... insane.

Wall Feces Oct 24, 2007 09:23 AM

It's criminal that they've gone 3 games without ONE Dream Theater song.

One by Metallica certainly quenches my thirst for a good Metallica song though. They picked the best one!

^-^ Oct 24, 2007 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sprouticus (Post 520973)
It's criminal that they've gone 3 games without ONE Dream Theater song...

Most people were saying that about Dragonforce.

Just give them some time, and they will add them in. If not, you could always make your own.

Dizzy Oct 24, 2007 03:21 PM

Well, I've been playing the game for like an hour today.

Spoiler:
So far, this is the best GH for me. Of course it's just a matter of your taste in music.

I'm still amazed that an "Heroes del Silencio" song made it to the game. It brings my hopes up to see some "Soda Stereo" songs in GH4.

The duel mode is fricking amazing. I just beat Tom Morello in a duel but it wasn't that difficult (playing in hard mode)


I've been checking the extra songs and I can't find any song from Metallica. Maybe you can unlock more songs for the shop later.

SuperDK Oct 24, 2007 04:04 PM

"Through the Fire and Flames" is a riot in Expert. So far only 79% completed...=(

Spoiler:
"One" is in the final tier.
And I hate battle, its all just pure luck.

Wall Feces Oct 24, 2007 04:05 PM

How are all these people on GFF playing this game already?

Iwata Oct 24, 2007 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sprouticus (Post 521163)
How are all these people on GFF playing this game already?


GHIII was also released on the PC. So i assume it has been leaked and people are downloading it and giving it a go. It also shouldn't be that difficult to play on the PC as long as you have a guitar controller.

Dizzy Oct 24, 2007 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sprouticus (Post 521163)
How are all these people on GFF playing this game already?

Leaked version downloaded from blackcats. I'm playing the Ps2 version.

RacinReaver Oct 24, 2007 04:31 PM

Yeah, I tried to find one for the PC but with no luck. It's a shame because it would let me use my PS2 -> USB adapter again. :(

wvlfpvp Oct 24, 2007 05:24 PM

Well then just play Cave Story again with it.

Slayer X Oct 24, 2007 06:24 PM

Too bad Black Cats torrents is a closed community. Any chance of someone else uploading it?

RacinReaver Oct 24, 2007 07:44 PM

I saw it was on piratebay. Only a couple of seeds, though.

Slayer X Oct 24, 2007 09:12 PM

Mininova has one with about 12 seeders and 32 leachers. Estimated download time of 20hrs. Don't know if it's legit or not, but it seems alright, no obvious signs that it's not the real deal at least.

Shenlon Oct 24, 2007 09:24 PM

I actually got one from mininova thats about 4gigs but when i burned it the first disc wouldn't load at all on my ps2. The second attempt at it was successful but the game takes long loading times and takes even longer saving so I don't know weather its a bad copy or if my burner is messing up on me @_@

scotty Oct 24, 2007 09:52 PM

I'll probably download this for ps2 at some point. I won't buy it because I don't really like the new look, and it's too expensive for the few songs I actually like on this one. I hoped that with Guitar Hero 2 on Xbox 360, they would continue to release new songs online. GH2 was a great game and I enjoyed most of the songs on it. I will have to settle with customizing GH2 for now...

Slayer X Oct 24, 2007 10:06 PM

Meh, GH2 was great and all. But there were WAAAAAAAAAY too many songs that people have never heard of before. I know some poeple like that, but on a personal note I found GH2 to be the better one to play, but GH1 still has the best songs in my book.

Therefore I can't wait for GH3 with so many songs that defined the sound of modern rock (ie. One, Welcome to the Jungle, Paint it Black, etc.), and then modern rock that is some of the best material to date (The Metal, Through Fire and Flames [I still like Fury of the Storm better, but this'll do], etc.) all the while with an even tighter hammer-on system then that of GH2.

However, and excuse my language here, the lead male vocalist in the game is fuck ugly. I think they were going for some Mick Jagger unspired look or something cause this dude SERIOUSLY scares me.

SimDaddyGT Oct 25, 2007 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperDK (Post 521162)
"Through the Fire and Flames" is a riot in Expert. So far only 79% completed...=(

You've gotta be shitting me... 79? ...I'm starting to fear this will end up being (to me, that is) impossible for me to beat. Jordan is still that way... at 58%.

Sad, because this is the song I was looking forward to playing the MOST!!


Surprised nobody mentioned the demo was released yesterday. So psyched for Sunday.

acid Oct 25, 2007 01:00 AM

Ive heard rumors that there are co-op only encore songs. I've also heard that co-op can't be played in career mode online, it has to be done local.

If true that sucks, as now I have to force someone to play with bass with the normal controller just so I can unlock all the songs. Boo-urns.

Also sunday coming like what.

Slayer X Oct 25, 2007 01:09 AM

Yeah, that's true. In co-op instead of the boss battles it has exclusive encores instead.

SuperDK Oct 25, 2007 01:33 AM

"Through the Fire and Flames" is tough for me right this moment because my hands are hurting from extensive playing. I should listen to the 15-minute break warnings :P.

Anyway, I actually thought TtFaF was going to be easier than Jordan, but I guess I was wrong. Either that or I just completely suck right now, considering I eventually beat Jordan like 10 times, 3000 points away from 5 starring. :( I got to 83% just a little while ago. Close to actually finishing it, but not enough to pass the dual solo (or whatever it is, I can't remember).

As for co-op only encore songs, I don't remember because I was disappointed in not being able to play TtFaF by progressing through co-op. The rumors are probably correct though, since my younger brother and I went through it on expert and we got some songs that aren't in single player...and now that I think about it, I dunno if you can play them in career SP.

OmagnusPrime Oct 25, 2007 07:24 AM

Pre-ordered my copy of GHIII last night. It's not out over here until 23rd of next month (bugger) but I have to say, I'm quite looking forward to it, despite having never played any of the other games. Should be good.

Slayer X Oct 25, 2007 06:59 PM

Yeah, I was going to pre-order the game a couple days ago but EB stopped taking pre-orders, not knowing how many copies of each version they're getting.

That's fine, I'll just have to go to FutureShop an hour before open and wait to get it. Not likely to be a line, and if so only one or two people. And even at that I'm getting the PS3 version so I think my odds are pretty good for Sunday.

For thoes who are also getting the game on the PS3 it is CONFIRMED that the guitar will not allow you to play GH1,2 or 80's on the PS3 too. So keep your old PS2 around and perhaps invest in an official wireless guitar for it cause you're not going to be playing them on a newer console any time soon. This and other facts of interest can all be found HERE

Wall Feces Oct 25, 2007 09:57 PM

How are the bonus songs? Any good?

AlphaDeus Oct 25, 2007 10:26 PM

Normally I try to pick up the game early at a local shop, but I've only succeeded once in getting a GH game early (I picked up GH:80s about 4 days before it's official release date). I saw GH2 on the shelves for PS2 a few weeks before its release date but the computer stopped it from being sold. If it were posted on a bittorrent (PC version) I'd snatch it up just to mess with since I have both a 360 explorer and a PS2 USB controller adapter. Regardless I'm still buying the 360 version at a midnight launch.

My Gamertag is IKarusZino if you want to add me and maybe we can play sometime. I play on expert and I'm fairly good. The only thing that would stop me from passing Through the Fire and Flames is Stamina. I've tried to play along with the youtube videos and I always end up having to stop right before the big solo. I've tried it on other videos too and I get the same way, which is weird. It might just be the "lag" and not actually knowing if I'm hitting the notes or not.

With all the 3-note chords and insane solos, it doesn't look like I'll beat it in one sitting like I did with GH2 and GH:80s. I might actually get tired, which only happens when I play Six. (I can play Jordan all the way through without getting tired, I just can't hit the notes good enough =p)

SuperDK Oct 26, 2007 07:03 PM

::breathes a sigh of relief::

Through the Fire and Flames: 100% completed on EXPERT*

3 STARS


Actually passed it yesterday, but I did it again today. My score sucks though, so I guess I shouldn't be too happy. =/

Anyway, I think I'll pick up the 360 version sometime, maybe. If I do that, then I will also get the Rock Band bundle to have a full set without having to get another guitar seperately.

Edit: To clear things up, I'm not a great GH player. I've lost at 1% many times in TtFaF. Not really anymore though.

*This is how it is noted after you lose; completion of the song.

Wall Feces Oct 26, 2007 07:30 PM

100%? Come on now. You mean you beat the song, right? Not 100% notes hit?

SuperDK Oct 26, 2007 07:49 PM

Whoops, guess I should have said I 3 starred it. >_>
Its pretty obvious I can't get 100% notes hit. There's like 3700-ish notes.

Anyway, yeah, I suck.

I'm going to edit just so I don't confuse more people...

Golfdish from Hell Oct 27, 2007 01:13 AM

Heh, I like how "Talk Dirty to Me" is one of the 1st Tier songs this time around, when "Nothin' But a Good Time" was a fifth tier song in Rock the 80's.

Damn, reading all this makes me want to chip my PS2 instead of waiting the 20-some hours for the midnight launch. *Sigh* Guess I can always do another 1P run on II to get ready.

I think I'm one of those players who'll just end up being totally content with playing around on hard mode. My fingers hurt just watching all those 3-note chords (hopefully the GYO ones are in the vast minority).

Slayer X Oct 27, 2007 01:44 AM

Man, I downloaded the PS2 version and it's not too bad. It still suffersfrom the odd technical stutter if you're playing in 16:9 and Progressive Scan. Also the load times are looooooong (no longer then the other PS2 ones). Not that you really notice while you're playing, but the PS2 graphics suck a LOT, especially after playing next-gen games for so long, as well as the 360 demo for GH3.

I haven't been trying my hardest to get too far in GH3 yet, want to save the surprises for when I get my PS3 copy. However right now I'm stuck on Barracuda -Expert. Probably all for the better anyhow.

scotty Oct 27, 2007 01:48 AM

I downloaded the ps2 version today. It's better than I expected, I haven't heard a few of these songs before but they are enjoyable to play. I started on expert and got to "The Metal" 6th tier, and it's starting to get difficult

SuperDK Oct 27, 2007 04:54 AM

Actually, for some strange reason, the game seems to stop momentarily when you use your star power (PS2 version). It's kinda weird. I don't really know if it affects much, but I messed up a lot during Raining Blood because it stopped for a bit after using SP. Could just be me sucking. Not sure if it's because I have a burned copy (!). There's a good chance that's why it spazzes out.

Before I forget to mention it, Co-op encore songs cannot be played in Single Player Career, but can be played in Quick-play. However, I believe Battle songs cannot be played at all, unless you are playing Single Player Career (which is a shame, since the final stage is awesome). Not sure if the songs are available when battling with a friend.

Honestly, besides the beginning, I think TtFaF can be easily done if you are good at solos (or at least mashing through solos; I'm not that great at it). Jordan was difficult because it doesn't even feel possible to be able to hit all the notes during Solo B/C (which are easily the most difficult parts). As for stamina issues, yes, its a bit hard to play for seven and a half minutes, with all the constant strumming. TtFaF is still loads of fun though.

If anything doesn't make any sense, it's because I'm tired as fuck right now. Just ignore it, I guess.

AlphaDeus Oct 27, 2007 09:12 AM

That's the main reason I think I'll have an easier time with TTFAF as opposed to Jordan. Jordan was basically a "Wall of notes" that I couldn't decipher musically. But when I listen to the solos in TTFAF I can hear, understand and logically place on a scale each note of pretty much every solo.

I'm going to jump into this game expert. I'll be playing it all night tonight after midnight :p

Wall Feces Oct 27, 2007 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaDeus (Post 522641)
That's the main reason I think I'll have an easier time with TTFAF as opposed to Jordan. Jordan was basically a "Wall of notes" that I couldn't decipher musically. But when I listen to the solos in TTFAF I can hear, understand and logically place on a scale each note of pretty much every solo.

That's my exact argument... I don't see how this song can be any harder than Jordan because while Jordan kicks ass, the solo has no rhythm or melody. TtFaF is atleast discernible.

Plus I fucking rock at solos... I'm going to try and beat it on expert in one try.

Rock Oct 27, 2007 01:06 PM

Holy crap, how do you unlock the coop encores for single player career mode or quick play?

Besides this, the game is awesome (PS2 version), but I hate playing through filler songs to get to the awesome stuff.

Wall Feces Oct 27, 2007 02:32 PM

I just read that the GH3 Les Paul will work fine with Rock Band, the Rock Band stratocaster won't work on GH3. What a god damn waste.

Source: IGN: Guitar Compatibility Test

Rock Oct 27, 2007 02:38 PM

The controller issue is the main reason I'm not getting Rock Band. Being able to use my old Guitar Hero PS2 controller with Guitar Hero 2, Rocks the 80s and now Guitar Hero 3 was awesome.

Slayer X Oct 27, 2007 02:54 PM

I'm not trying to outdue anyone but listen to my state here.

I bought GH1 for the PS2 when it came out, they only sold it in bundles so I bought 2 bundles so that I would have 2 guitars. Then GH2 came out which was fine so I just bought the software.

Then GH2-X360 came out so I picked that up with the intention of getting Rock Band later on to make for a second controller.

After the announcement that RB for the X360 would not be wireless I switched my pre-order to the PS3 version.

I then decided that I'm now going to get GH3 for the PS3 on sunday so that I'll have 2 guitars for Rock Band.

Lastly, my PS2 guitars are pretty worn, and after hearing that the GH3 guitar for the PS3 will not support the PS2 games I then purchased a PS2 official Wireless guitar.

So let's add all that up shall we.

PS2 -> 3
X-360 1
PS3 -> 1 + Rock Band in November making it 2

Yeah, that's a shit load of stuff sitting around my room. I think I'm going to make a wall rack or something.

DarthSavior Oct 27, 2007 03:12 PM

Gah. The Gamestop I reserved my copy at isn't having a midnight opening. :( I'll have to wait for an extra 10 hours to get it, then.

Anyone (beside myself) getting the Wii version?

wvlfpvp Oct 27, 2007 04:50 PM

Jordan's retarded (compared to playing it IRL) because, honestly, nobody but Buckethead could play the ingame one perfect and it's HARDER than playing. I mean, do you HEAR the tremolo pedal that he's going crazy with? YOU DON'T HAVE TO HIT THE NOTES THAT MUCH THANKS TO THAT. Grrrr, person who came up with the playingness. Grrr.

AlphaDeus Oct 27, 2007 05:41 PM

I managed to snag a copy a day early (spur of the moment thing, i was actually checking my sears to see if they had a 360 elite, but they had GH3 on the shelf so I brought it up to be rang up expecting it not to go through.) I didn't even have my credit card out I figured it would be stopped by the register. I figured it would get stopped then I would just shrug it off and ask if he had a 360 elite. It went though, I got the game and I've been playing it for about 5-6 hours nonstop.

I beat Expert Career. I only failed one song the first time playing (Raining Blood- the beginning didn't get me, it was the insanely fast trills at the end- I earned the "almost made it" achievement with this song =p). I also failed the Guitar Battle vs. the final boss, but that's pretty much hit or miss for anyone. It's more luck than skill. I 5-starred almost every song first time through except for the following:

Slipknot - Before I Forget
Queens of the Stone Age - 3's and 7's
Slayer - Raining Blood

The 3-note chords in this game are killer AWESOME. They definitely add a new layer of challenge to the game.

I haven't messed with the bonus songs too much. This game is definitely worth picking up. :D If you want to track my progress, I'm IKarusZino on the official GH forum too.

Tube Oct 27, 2007 07:21 PM

So far the soundtrack isn't as good as other GH games, but I have to say that the guitarhero.com integration is awesome.

Here's my GH3 profile: http://www.guitarhero.com/accounts/203016

Lukage Oct 27, 2007 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthSavior (Post 522778)
Gah. The Gamestop I reserved my copy at isn't having a midnight opening. :( I'll have to wait for an extra 10 hours to get it, then.

Anyone (beside myself) getting the Wii version?

Yep, and I'll use that Bluetooth Guitar on my PC as a gamepad!

Slayer X Oct 27, 2007 07:30 PM

The tracklist is a mixed bag for me. The tracks were definately selected to keep people interested in the series, however I find that GH3 is easier then 2. Sure there are songs that are perhaps harder then that of 2, but overall I find it easier.

Therefore it's hard for me to hate the game since it has more songs that I like to play then any other one, but the songs that I'll play over and over again are probably less then that of 2.

But hey, it's all a personal preforance.

P.S.
I can't play this PS2 version any more. I'm going to ruin the surprises for myself if I keep this up. (Completed set 4). But really, I can't stand the graphics anymore. The harsh colours and lighting are making my head hurt. The PS2 version took a HUGE hit when being transfered from the PS3/360 version. Like, I mean I think this one looks even worse then GH2.

Lukage Oct 28, 2007 12:59 AM

Just got the Wii version at the midnight release. :D

Slayer X Oct 28, 2007 01:08 AM

Post a mini-review of what it's like to pkay it on the Wii. I know it has vibration to the beat and stuff, but how much it adds to the game I'm not sure. Best feature is probably the screw-up sound that comes from the indicidual guitars so you know what person is actually messing up.

But yeah let us know how it is. Though I still dought I'd trade the graphics and online functionality of the PS3 version for the poor visual beat-down they did to the PS2 and Wii versions. It's your job to convince me otherwise ok? ;)

Golfdish from Hell Oct 28, 2007 01:09 AM

Got it. Midnight launches are awesome (unless you're a Gamestop employee...I asked if they were getting overtime and the guy just gave me a dirty look). About 80 people showed up. The tourney was at 11 or so and I missed, but oh well.

Played the first set on medium to get a feel for the new surroundings and all the songs I don't know, before I delve into hard and beyond. First impressions:

-Wow, they weren't kidding when they said they made it much more lenient on the timing. I know it'll get harder, but it's really easier to mash out strings of notes than GHII. I got 100% on 3/4 of the songs I just played and half of that was messing around with the new timing...Everything connected. I can see someone starting on GHIII, then having problems with GHII. I haven't noticed HOPO's being greatly different, though just easier due to the higher window to hit a note. Medium speed seems closer to GHII's hard speed...It's nowhere near as slow.

-I can't say I'm a fan of the new interface. Just doesn't feel as tongue-in-cheek as the interface in GH2 and it's kind of boring, actually. Even the letters and everything just look over-polished. The band is just fucking ugly (Midori has that hideous American-Manga look and is more creepy than kawaii...And I wish I use 80's Judy instead of the one here...yeesh!) and the cast looks like it got beat with an ugly stick. Even if I weren't a Poison fan, I'd use Bret Michaels instead of the main singer. Be nice if I could do something with the drummer. And dammit...I miss the board shaking when I use star power. Even the messages are kind of lame (and three songs in, I've even had one repeat).

Feels kind of like jumping from Marvel vs Capcom 1 to Marvel vs Capcom 2...Evolved gameplay, but the aesthetics take a massive hit.

One plus...The new star power meter is nice. I just glance over and see how many lights I have. I like it.

But who plays GHIII for the aesthetics? It's awesome so far otherwise.

Lukage Oct 28, 2007 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer X (Post 523002)
Post a mini-review of what it's kije to pkay it on the Wii. I know it has vibration to the beat and stuff, but how much it adds to the game I'm not sure. Best feature is probably the screw-up sound that comes from the indicidual guitars so you know what person is actually messing up.

Bet yeah let us know how it is. Though I still dought I'd trade the graphics and online functionality of the PS3 version for the poor visual beat-down they did to the PS2 and Wii cersions. It's your job to convince me otherwise ok? ;)

Yeah, I've been so busy looking everywhere other than my notes, complaining about Gamecube graphics blah blah blah. Finally a sound from the Wiimote is turning out well. I played online and got stomped, but the Star Power effects are very cool. I "dought" you care about this, as the graphics are what appear to be the be all. :rolleyes:

Additional Spam:
And my profile: Guitar Hero Community Website

Rock Oct 28, 2007 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer X (Post 522896)
The PS2 version took a HUGE hit when being transfered from the PS3/360 version. Like, I mean I think this one looks even worse then GH2.

No it doesn't. I've played Guitar Hero, Rocks the 80s and Guitar Hero 2 on my PS2 and Guitar Hero 3 looks considerably better than the previous three games. Not that the graphics matter, anyway. I barely even notice them while playing.

On a side note, I need to know how to unlock the co-op encore songs, like, NOW. Heck, I don't want to miss out on a few of the most awesome songs in the game just because I don't have a friend ready to play with me.

Also, those boss battles suck and feel totally out of place. Seriously, except for the last one, they just aren't fun at all.

Golfdish from Hell Oct 28, 2007 10:28 AM

Yeah, boss battles are awful. The last one was the worst...No powerups until, like, 2 minutes into the song and I don't have enough to kill him. And the fucker always hits me with the lefty switch (aka: mash buttons and hope you hit notes). And what good does increasing the CPU's difficulty level do or giving them more notes do!? Gimme a whammy or broken string attack!

Other than that...Awesome, as expected.

Rock Oct 28, 2007 10:54 AM

At least the last boss battle song is halfway decent, unlike the other two. Seriously, the boss battles are so annoying that they're almost ruining the game for me. It's like the worst addition to the series they could've come up with. Just let me play the guitar, damnit!

nabhan Oct 28, 2007 11:02 AM

What the hell? FCP Remix is a bonus track?

Urge to buy rising. I loved Guitar Hero II, but time is such a constraint these days.

;_;

Golfdish from Hell Oct 28, 2007 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nabhan (Post 523130)
Urge to buy rising. I loved Guitar Hero II, but time is such a constraint these days.

That's one reason I'm all over the GH games right now...They're so damn arcadey. No storyline, just pick up and play a few songs, then shut it off. Or switch over to the ballgame, then play a song during a commercial, then flick back. I don't have time to spend 3 hours clearing a level in a 40-50 hour game. I'm sure the big casual game craze right now is partly responsible for selling so many copies of GH...That's on top of it being as addictive as it is.

Wall Feces Oct 28, 2007 12:32 PM

Man, this game is kicking my ASS! Raining Blood and One on expert are destroying me! I've been mostly disappointed with the earlier songs, but overall it's a solid selection. Knights of Cydonia shocked me in it's greatness. I've always liked the song, but it's much more fun to play than I anticipated.

SuperDK Oct 28, 2007 01:12 PM

For those that are playing on Easy-Hard, how are the boss battles? I'm just wondering because there aren't many notes to hit so is it harder to actually win? Too lazy to check...

Final battle is almost complete luck. Get hit by a double note and lose. Lefty flip = lose. I beat it by getting a whammy and using it during a fast constant strum part, a little after getting the first powerup. That's the only way I've ever won. Seriously.

Golfdish from Hell Oct 28, 2007 01:56 PM

http://www.gamingforce.org/forums/vi...tml#post523114

Long story short: He's a bitch and you don't even get the song outside of a battle. Yuck.

Slash is god, but I hope I never have to face off against him again. Though surprisingly, I liked Morello's original a lot more than Slash's...

Wall Feces Oct 28, 2007 02:00 PM

So wait, you can't play the final battle song AT ALL outside of battle mode? EVER?? That's fucking retarded.

Also, why haven't I unlocked Suck My Kiss, Sabotage, and a few others I seem to be missing that aren't purchasable in the store? I just beat career on hard and I'm still missing those songs.

SuperDK Oct 28, 2007 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sprouticus
Also, why haven't I unlocked Suck My Kiss, Sabotage, and a few others I seem to be missing that aren't purchasable in the store? I just beat career on hard and I'm still missing those songs.

Co-op career unlocks those songs. Once you unlock those (they're encore songs btw) you can play them in quick-play. I thought I mentioned this earlier

Also, I agree that it sucks to not be able to play battle songs normally.

Wall Feces Oct 28, 2007 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperDK (Post 523228)
Co-op career unlocks those songs. Once you unlock those (they're encore songs btw) you can play them in quick-play. I thought I mentioned this earlier

Yeah you might have, but it's possible I blocked it out of my memory because it's a pretty silly thing overall. I'm hoping the guys at Neversoft get a ton of flak over the non-playability of the battle songs and release them in an update soon.

DarthSavior Oct 28, 2007 08:24 PM

Since I'm a total noob at Guitar Hero, I started off on Easy. Managed to handle all the songs though career mode. Never got less than 85% on all the songs (except Raining Blood, that one kicked my ass). Lost to Slash once, but the final battle is kicking my ass. No matter what crap I pull off on him, he always rebounds. :(

I tried Slow Ride on Normal... wtf? I can barely keep up. ;_;

Lukage Oct 28, 2007 08:35 PM

Yeah, I'm new to it, too, but I was able to do the last song. Helps to be a fan of the original song, though. Its not quite like the other boss battles, though.

Slayer X Oct 28, 2007 10:06 PM

I know this is a bit off topic, but...

Does anyone else have the PS3 version? If so, let's ROCK!

value tart Oct 28, 2007 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthSavior (Post 523398)
I tried Slow Ride on Normal... wtf? I can barely keep up. ;_;

Do other songs on Normal. For whatever reason Slow Ride has about 50 trillion aggravating chords and not much else, making it hard for anyone whose fingers aren't made of rubber.

At least, on Expert it does, I have to assume it's just as weird on Normal. =o

I have to hand it to Neversoft, for taking this franchise from RedOctane they've done a good job of staying true to what makes the series awesome. While one could argue that they didn't really change much, I think they were really in a bad position. If they changed it, they'd get yelled at for changing, and they decided to keep it the same, which is going to have people saying they should've changed it. I'd expect the important changes to come in Guitar Hero IV.

Also, the lack of Queen songs is still very disturbing. I would seriously pay 3000 MSP for a Queen Song Pack.

AlphaDeus Oct 28, 2007 11:56 PM

So I marathoned GH3 this whole weekend. As I mentioned earlier I picked it up Saturday Afternoon. I've been playing it almost non stop for two days. I beat Expert mode relatively easily (see previous post) and I went through all the bonus songs.

I beat all 4 career difficulties to earn their achievements and cash. A lot of the hidden guitars are wicked awesome :p For the boss battles on the lower difficulties, I recommend collecting 3 power-ups, and then activating them one by one when your opponent is playing their part. You can also double(Triple?) up effects to really devastate them.

DarthSavior Oct 29, 2007 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaDeus (Post 523532)
So I marathoned GH3 this whole weekend. As I mentioned earlier I picked it up Saturday Afternoon. I've been playing it almost non stop for two days.

You wrists aren't hurting from all that playing? A good 4 hours of non-stop playing for me got my left wrist hurting. :(

Dizzy Oct 29, 2007 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperDK (Post 523170)
For those that are playing on Easy-Hard, how are the boss battles? I'm just wondering because there aren't many notes to hit so is it harder to actually win? Too lazy to check...

Well, I'm playing in hard since I've got into the series very recently, but the boss battles weren't that difficult, at least for now.

For Morello, as soon as I got an attack I threw it at him and got owned pretty fast.
For Slash I had to use a different strategy since he kicked my ass 2 times. I just collected 3 attacks and threw them at him in his final solo.

There are plenty of attacks that you can collect in hard. Even if you missed 4 or 5 of them, you have many more to grab later in the song. Maybe that's the difference from expert.

I haven't faced any other duel so far.

^-^ Oct 29, 2007 08:40 AM

I like GHIII. Although, I do agree that the sampling of some of the audio isn't that great, I've (so far) found a couple tracks that I need to grab online.

Still doesn't beat my own Guitar Hero though.

The_Griffin Oct 29, 2007 06:26 PM

Just picked it up for the Wii today.

I'm stuck on Barracuda (Medium). Fucking bridge and solo... I can all but nail them in practice if I slow down just a TAD, but it's like my brain shuts down and goes "lol, no wai."

THIS IS THE FIRST GUITAR HERO GAME I'VE OWNED SHUT UP :(

Golfdish from Hell Oct 29, 2007 06:58 PM

Barracuda gave me trouble on hard, but only because you're hitting those damn triples every couple seconds through the whole thing. I just took my 3 stars and got past it and probably won't bother with it again unless I have to. Heart doesn't strike me as a band to build a GH grid around anyway. Seems the 2nd tier usually has a few gameplay clunkers (Message in a Bottle/Heart-Shaped Box in II, that stupid Limozeen song in 80's).

Crap, I didn't know you could stock up on attacks. I figured it was like Mario Kart and I just emptied them on the CPU because I was afraid they'd get replaced by another I'd pick up.

My favorite song thus far is probably "She Bangs the Drums"...Cool song, really fun pattern all the way through. Really liked "3's and 7's" on medium (and the song itself), but it pwns me pretty badly on hard. And "Talk Dirty to Me" is a great warm-up song, like "Strutter" was in GH2. And I got my money's worth when I hit on "Welcome to the Jungle".

Not sure if I'm a fan of "One" or not...It's kind of like GH3's Freebird with the structure, but the last two minutes of that one pattern (G's, following by a triple) and the solo (filthy stuff) seem like kind of a weak payoff for the rest of the song.

*should've been "Ride the Lightning"

MUST. PLAY. MORE.

DarthSavior Oct 29, 2007 08:29 PM

I must give props to those who can play on Hard/Expert. I've been able to get through a few songs on Medium (trying to beat "One" right now). Sometimes I wonder how I manage to get some of the notes. Its like my fingers just happen to move of their own free will or something. It creeps me out. =/

And I managed to beat Through the Fire and Flames on Easy. I know, not an accomplishment to most of you, but it is to me, damnit!

dagget Oct 29, 2007 08:35 PM

I came close to buying this for Xbox 360 tonight, but also saw it on PS2. Is there any difference of it being on PS2 than there is from the next gen systems? (Aside from the obvious graphics) I'd get the PS3 version, but it was sld out. :(

Chaotic Oct 29, 2007 08:55 PM

There's no online play on the PS2 version... And apparently online play is a big deal this time around.

Either way, the next gen versions, including the Wii version, seem like the superior versions over the PS2 anyway. Unless you don't own a next-gen console, then that would probably the only reason to get the PS2 version.

dagget Oct 29, 2007 09:09 PM

I have all the next-gen systems, I just don't know if throwing $100 just to have a wireless controller is worth it. I almost did it tonight, but stopped myself mainly because of the crowd of people at Wal-mart. I know I asked this before but don't think anyone answered, if GH2 and Rock the 80s work with the PS3 controller? That would be a determining factor if I get the game for next gen or not.

Slayer X Oct 29, 2007 10:41 PM

No the PS3 guitar does not allow for PS2 GH games to be played on the PS3. It sucks I know. So you have to keep your PS2 around still if you want to play thoes again.

But if you're ever going to want to play GH4 when it comes out in a year or two you're going to need a next-gen guitar anyways. So whether you buy it now or then, you're going to have to get one sooner or later.

Golfdish from Hell Oct 29, 2007 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthSavior (Post 524065)
I must give props to those who can play on Hard/Expert. I've been able to get through a few songs on Medium (trying to beat "One" right now). Sometimes I wonder how I manage to get some of the notes. Its like my fingers just happen to move of their own free will or something. It creeps me out. =/

I'm finding out...Speed is good thing in this edition. In the previous games, you had to hit the gems much closer to the center. Now it's more lenient and on expert speed, I almost can't miss as long as I don't let the gems by (obviously). I'm almost mashing instead of timing my strums. Of course, that's offset by the upped difficulty and many more notes, but I think I might mess around with Hyper Speed for hard mode, because I'm hitting basic strings of notes much easier with the speed boost on expert.

Anyone think you die a little too quickly?. I got to 97% on "Rock You Like a Hurricane", missed a wave and a half of notes and I died...I was borderline green/yellow at the time.

What do people think of "Impulse"? Nice seeing the "made specifically for GH" thing continue...Not the killer Jordan was, but it zapped me out of nowhere on Expert at 67%. I beat it on hard though without too much trouble. Mmm yeah...JUST like Jordan. :tpg:

And I'm loving this stupid Superbus song...Not hard (even on expert), but fun. And catchy.

Slash Oct 30, 2007 02:46 PM

It kinda feels like Hard is more Expertish lol.

So far the only song I can do on expert it Radio Song lol

AlphaDeus Oct 30, 2007 07:32 PM

Yeah my hand kind of hurt (the knuckles are still a bit sore now) and for a while my finger tips were tingly and felt calloused. :p

neothe0ne Oct 30, 2007 07:33 PM

In this post, I mock Aspyr.

PC OWNERS CRY.
Aspyr - Guitar Hero® III: Legends of Rock
Quote:

MINIMUM SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:

* Operating System: Windows XP SP2, Windows Vista
* CPU Processor: Intel Pentium D (Dual Core) 2.8GHZ or AMD Athlon 64 3500+
* Memory: XP - 1 GB RAM, Vista – 2GB RAM
* Hard Disk Space: 5.1 GB + 1GB Swap File
* Sound Card: DirectX 9.0c compatible sound card
* Video Card: 3D Hardware Accelerator Card Required – 100% DirectX 9.0c compatible 128 MB Video Memory
* Video Card (ATI): Radeon X800
* Video Card (Nvidia): Geforce 7600
* Media Required: 4X DVD-ROM drive
* Windows XP/Vista compatible mouse and keyboard with latest drivers
* Guitar Hero 3 Official PC Guitar Controller

This product does not support Windows 98/ME/2000/NT/XP x64/Vista x64.

..

RECOMMENDED SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:

* Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHZ or AMD Athlon Dual Core 4400+
* 256 MB 3D Hardware Accelerator Card
* Video Card (ATI): Radeon HD 2600
* Video Card (Nvidia): Geforce 8800 GT

* 2 GB RAM

Notice: Some Mobile and Desktop 3D accelerator cards with the chipset listed here may not be compatible with the 3D acceleration features utilized by Guitar Hero 3. Please refer to your hardware manufacturer for 100% DirectX compatibility.

Notice: This game contains technology intended to prevent copying that may conflict with some disk and virtual disk drives.

SUPPORTED DESKTOP CHIPSETS:

ATI RADEON X800
ATI RADEON X1600
ATI RADEON X1800
ATI RADEON X1900
ATI RADEON X1950
ATI RADEON HD 2400
ATI RADEON HD 2600
NVIDIA GEFORCE 7600
NVIDIA GEFORCE 7800
NVIDIA GEFORCE 7900
NVIDIA GEFORCE 8400
NVIDIA GEFORCE 8500
NVIDIA GEFORCE 8800

Notice: The Nvidia Geforce 8400 and 8500 cards have known issues on Vista machines with AMD CPUs.

SUPPORTED MOBILE CHIPSETS:

NVIDIA GEFORCE GO 7600 (XP Only)
NVIDIA GEFORCE GO 7800
NVIDIA GEFORCE GO 7900
NVIDIA GEFORCE GO 8400
NVIDIA GEFORCE GO 8600
NVIDIA GEFORCE GO 8700

I'm so glad I got the Wii version on Sunday. It's nice that Epic Games aren't the only PC developer acknowledging the superiority of low-end AMD graphics solutions to NVIDIA's mid-high solutions (see recommended specs for UT3). I'm also not reading anything about the 8600 being supported (and I'm not optimistic given their explicit warning about 8400-8500 cards in Vista with AMD processors), or anything about Mac.

DarthSavior Nov 2, 2007 01:12 AM

Oh hay I can actually make it to 1% on Through the Fire and Flames on expert. =/ But I made it up to 74% on Medium. >_<

scotty Nov 2, 2007 01:54 AM

Yeah I just tried Through the Fire and Flames and failed immediately just as I realized you have to play the keyboard... I only managed to get 2% so far

Slash Nov 2, 2007 02:29 PM

I learned the Slayer song is full of GAY

Dopefish Nov 2, 2007 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neothe0ne (Post 524583)
In this post, I mock Aspyr.

HOLY JESUS FUCK. XP SP2 or Vista? Assclowns.

DarthSavior Nov 2, 2007 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slash (Post 525929)
I learned the Slayer song is full of GAY

It's full of memories from my childhood. :D

Wohooo. Managed to beat Through the Fire and Flames on Medium.

Golfdish from Hell Nov 2, 2007 11:01 PM

The Slayer song is hard, but not in the "I'm having fun" kind of way. That and the One solo actually feel kind of ridiculous...Shame, since I regularly listen to both.

I gotta say, the upper tiers on the other GH games were a lot more fun than GHIII so far...Easier yes (for the most part), but Hangar 18, Beast and the Harlot, Seventeen, Freebird and Electric Eye were actually a blast to play. One is kinda like a limp Freebird and Raining Blood can go back to hell (and "Number of the Beast" is the same stupid 3-note chord through half the song and I can't even get to the scream on expert) Oh well, Cliffs of Dover is great at least and 3's and 7's could easily be a final tier song and is pretty fun.

Krelian Nov 3, 2007 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neothe0ne
In this post, I mock Aspyr.

Bajeeeesus. From those specs I'd say it's either graphically a port of the 360 version, or it's just Aspyr being shoddy again.

I'd hate to see the Mac specs. :(

Slash Nov 3, 2007 04:14 AM

Obviously Neversoft doesn't know about frets on fire or whatever that is

Once the guitar hero controller hits for PC, expect a new version to include support for said controller lol

RacinReaver Nov 3, 2007 04:54 PM

Or you could just get a PS2 controller -> USB adapter for $10 and not have to buy a brand new controller.

Greykin Nov 3, 2007 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Griffin (Post 523992)
THIS IS THE FIRST GUITAR HERO GAME I'VE OWNED SHUT UP :(

Haha, don't worry, a lot of people who play this game need ego checks so don't take things too seriously :P.

-----

That last boss was a bitch, but then I found out you can hold onto a max of 3 powerups, and release them all at once :D.

Oh, and "Cliffs of Dover" is hella fun to play.

Little Shithead Nov 3, 2007 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neothe0ne (Post 524583)
In this post, I mock Aspyr.

PC OWNERS CRY.

http://spcows.ae2t.net/kareha/src/1194136078963.jpg

Shitty unoptimized port or shittiest unoptimized port?

Just makes me glad I'm gonna save a lot of money and pain in the end by just buying the PS2 version eventually.

WolfDemon Nov 3, 2007 07:33 PM

I rented it the other day, since I can't afford to buy it right now.

This one seems a lot harder than the others. Hard Mode is kicking my ass. I'm stuck on the Japan tour, I think. (The one with Before I Forget, Stricken, 3's and 7's and Knights of Cydonia.) I managed to beat Stricken, but the others tear me apart. I can get to around 64% on Knights, but I can't even break 10% on the others. I don't know how I'll ever get to Expert. =(

The_Griffin Nov 5, 2007 10:23 AM

@Knights of Cydonia:

Fuck you and your god damn triplets. FIRST song on Medium that I've failed in the entire game. Even when I slow it down I can't get them. Which is REALLY embarrassing because Knights of Cydonia is one of my favorite songs in the game :(

Elmoogle Nov 5, 2007 03:13 PM

This is my first Guitar Hero game and so far I'm loving it. Beat the game on Medium the other night and I've been practicing pretty heavily to actually get the finger-sliding down for hard mode.

I think I may have just gotten extremely lucky, but Devil Went Down to Georgia was actually the easiest battle in the game for me. The first attack I got was Difficulty Up. I used it immediately and Lou crumpled like a paper bag. I actually stared at my screen stunned for a good half a minute since everything I've read described this battle as a major pain.

I bought the Wii version and I'm wondering if we're actually going to get any DLC. Nintendo has been pretty notorious about this sort of thing, but maybe we'll see some after this whole Wiiware thing kicks into gear.

Also, WHERE ARE MY EXTRA CONTROLLERS NEVERSOFT?

Morkvinter Nov 5, 2007 05:44 PM

Raining blood in difficult is so..... DIFFICULT !!!

Slash Nov 5, 2007 06:29 PM

no Raining blood is full of gay. I think thats the song that will quite possibly turn me off from this series.

so Fuck you Neversoft.

and Fuck you Harmonix for giving the damn series away. I swear...it feels like Harmonix can only put out two games for every series they do.

Frequency - Amplitude (Great games..wheres my third?)
Guitar Hero - Guitar Hero 2 (Great games, why'd ya give it to shitsoft)
now what? It'll be Rock Band, then Rock Band 2 and then what?! They'll give it to like Ubisoft or some shit like that

DarthSavior Nov 6, 2007 05:41 AM

I'm currently starting on playing the songs on Hard difficulty. It's so hard getting used to shifting my fingers just so I could reach that damn orange button. >_>

Greykin Nov 10, 2007 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthSavior (Post 527966)
I'm currently starting on playing the songs on Hard difficulty. It's so hard getting used to shifting my fingers just so I could reach that damn orange button. >_>

Try moving your entire hand over to those set of buttons when you reach for the orange button, instead of stretching your pinky out just for the orange buttons all the time. For the most part on Hard, if you have to land a orange key, the other buttons before or following will be closer to that end.




Ah, has anyone else seen the South Park episode featuring Guitar Hero? It's full of awesome :tpg:

lightgem Nov 15, 2007 01:25 AM

Some weird shit got into me or something, but I choked up when Stan said "I just wanna play with my best friend."

DarthSavior Nov 16, 2007 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greykin (Post 530173)
Try moving your entire hand over to those set of buttons when you reach for the orange button, instead of stretching your pinky out just for the orange buttons all the time. For the most part on Hard, if you have to land a orange key, the other buttons before or following will be closer to that end.

It seems to be working. Managed to start getting 4-5 stars on the first two tiers of songs, but the final two tiers are just beating me sensless (thanks to weird finger positioning to hit the right note combo).

AlphaDeus Nov 17, 2007 09:24 PM

Darth do you play on 360? if so, what's your GT? (I dunno if you mentioned what system you play on earlier in the thread :P) We should play co-op sometime. (That offer goes for anyone :p GT: IKarusZino)

Did anyone else download the free Boss Battle DLC Pack on the Xbox marketplace? (might be on PS3 any day now). It's brutal :) you have to play BOTH Solos. I managed to pass the Devil once but my hand keeps getting tired at about 60% >.>

DarthSavior Nov 21, 2007 07:04 PM

Unfortunately, I own the Wii version. So no battling for us ;_;

I've tried doing the hammer on and pull off tutorials (I assume I'll need top deal with these if I ever hope to do anything higher than a 3-star on hard/expert difficulties). On the tutorial I can do it just fine, but when I try to apply it to a normal song, I just can't seem to get it working right. Anyone have any tips?

The_Griffin Nov 21, 2007 08:32 PM

It's actually simple to do hammer-on and pull-offs. Just hit the right fret and the game will count it as good.

Keep in mind though, that if you miss a fret, you'll need to hit the strum bar in order to start the hammer-on again.

BTW, beat my first song on Hard yesterday. School's Out by Alice Cooper... easy as hell, but I'm still proud of it. =D

Golfdish from Hell Nov 21, 2007 09:46 PM

Rule #1
Rule #2
Rule #3
"
"
Rule #99:

Don't panic, just instinctively mash the frets as the notes come. I used to panic everytime a wave came at me (hello "Woman" on hard/expert), but one day I started goofing around and mashed them out and didn't really worry if I missed. I can do them pretty consistantly now...I even FCed "Talk Dirty to Me" and the end HOPO section in a store demo. The three people watching thought I was a GH god. Good times...

I bought GH1 a few days after GHIII and man...World of difference. Seems like a 50/50 shot I get them in GH1, but they come out almost by accident in III. Good luck on "One" though...

OmagnusPrime Nov 22, 2007 11:39 AM

Apparently you can now download the Halo theme for GH3, for free no less.

Slayer X Nov 22, 2007 02:40 PM

Yeah. It's great to see them supporting the game so strongly. Hope they keep it up for a good while. However you can definately tell that the 360 game is the favouriate son.

Co-op patch
Boss Battle Patch
Free Halo song

That's why I'm selling my PS3 GH3 and have already picked up the software of GH3 for the 360 (already own GH2 for it).

DarthSavior Nov 22, 2007 06:22 PM

Ah, never realized only certain notes can be used for HOPO. I was wondering what was the deal with those shining notes. >_>

Slayer X Nov 22, 2007 07:36 PM

You can do pull-offs on any note, doesn't have to be the lit up ones. You just have to plan the finguring correctly.

As for hammer-ons, you're right that you can only do them for the lit up notes as long as you sucessfully hit the note prior to it.

OmagnusPrime Nov 23, 2007 02:34 PM

Got my copy today (yay for European release dates -_-) and so now I has two guitars (the new one is awesome, btw) and have been playing some co-op with a mate. It's a lot of fun with two players, I'm very much liking.

Golfdish from Hell Nov 24, 2007 01:45 AM

The Romantics sue Activision - PlayStation 2 News at GameSpot

Not GHIII, but better than bumping the other GH thread.

LOL at stupid lawsuit "Made Famous By The Romantics"...I hate the song ingame (one of the worst patterns in any GH game) and I'm tired of hearing it in every other commercial, but I'd hate it even more if it caused GH: RT80's to get pulled from shelves.

Quote:

According to the Detroit Free Press, the band's attorney has said that copyright <of "What I Like About You">is not the issue, since Activision secured permission for a cover version through the proper channels. Attorney William Horton said, "It's a very good imitation, and that's our objection. Even the guys in the band said, 'Wow, that's not us, but it sure sounds like us.'" He added, "The sales of this game are huge. We're all for good commerce. We just want to share in it."
Solution? Just use this instead and call it a day: YouTube - Poison-What I Like About You!

The_Griffin Nov 24, 2007 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer X (Post 537829)
You can do pull-offs on any note, doesn't have to be the lit up ones. You just have to plan the finguring correctly.

As for hammer-ons, you're right that you can only do them for the lit up notes as long as you sucessfully hit the note prior to it.

Wait, what? Pull-offs can be done on *any* note? Odd, because the tutorial didn't mention anything about this and they had lit notes when I did it.

I hope it's true though, it would let me ace "One" on Medium. :tpg:

In other news, I'm doing some practice on Hard songs. So far I've managed to beat School's Out by Alice Cooper and My Name is Jonas by Weezer (although I still have a shit-ton of trouble on the hammer-on solos :(). Considering that GH3 hard is supposed to be GH2's Expert, I'm quite proud of myself. I shudder to think about what the final boss battle will be like though. :gonk:

Slash Nov 24, 2007 04:09 AM

Wow...have GH3 on Wii kinda blows...

the only way that It can be made up is if they put Zelda AND Kraids theme on the game

Golfdish from Hell Nov 24, 2007 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Griffin (Post 538530)
Considering that GH3 hard is supposed to be GH2's Expert, I'm quite proud of myself. I shudder to think about what the final boss battle will be like though. :gonk:

Eh, not quite...I wouldn't say there's any early hard GH3 song I've had to star power through like I still do on "Mother" in expert in GH2 (a tier 1 song), and there's nowhere near as many 3-note chords or just simply "WTF, why is that $*&#ing note here!?" patterns. You'll be surprised when you make the jump to expert eventually how much of a bastard it can be.

Keep plugging away though and the zen will come. Keep practicing "Talk Dirty to Me", which looks slightly intimidating at first, but it's a great hard training song for fast, continuous strings of notes/chords, orange fret usage, and one that doesn't almost require double-strumming (but you can still practice it for later songs, where you practically need it to hit everything). I always use to warm-up/impress people at store demos(:tpg:)

The_Griffin Nov 24, 2007 07:40 AM

Thanks for the tip. I'll practice some right now. :eagletear:

And pull-offs on any note, confirm deny y/n?

EDIT: Hmm. Talk Dirty to Me is a pretty good song, but it doesn't test me on where I'm having the most trouble with: quick hammer-ons/pull-offs, notes where I need to double strum to hit them all, and fast shifts between the GRYB and RYBO sets. I actually think I'm gonna work on "One" there. I'm about 61%... I can sorta get through to the fast part where you need the double-strut without star power, but I wanna nail them, so it'll be something for me to practice.

Paco Nov 24, 2007 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Griffin (Post 538579)
And pull-offs on any note, confirm deny y/n?

Pretty much. I noticed that the hammer ons/pull offs were infinitely easier this time around. Even my cousin, who could never so much as do Carry Me Home in GHII was all of a sudden pulling out 100% on songs like Lay Down in this game. THey are RIDICULOUSLY easy but I guess that's a welcome change.

The_Griffin Nov 24, 2007 08:05 AM

Hmm. I'll have to do some tests on that. That'd be a MAJOR help in the faster songs if it's true.

Oh, and I feel your pain, Slash. No DLC for me because I only have a Wii. :(

AlphaDeus Nov 24, 2007 10:39 AM

You can't do pull offs on every note. In fact, you shouldn't even be concerning yourself with them because they were only really important in the first guitar hero.

A hammer-on is when you see a series of notes, let's say 3 for example. G-R-Y. The first note is regular while the next two are shining. You can strum the first note and tap the next two notes without strumming.

Pull-offs are the reverse concept. If you see Y-R-G and the Y is regular, to pull off, you have to hold down all three frets before the notes hit the line, Strum yellow and pull each finger off one by one (Strum Y and release, then release R after you hit the note, then stay on green). Every regular note in the entire game has to be strummed regardless of where it is, while shining notes can be both strummed and tapped if you strummed the regular note and are maintaining a combo.

What made GH2 easier was that you didn't have to hold down the lower notes to do parts that descend. So if you saw Y-R-G in GH2, you could Strum Y, release, Tap R, Release, and Tap G. if you managed to hit the notes accurately you would have hit all three.

What makes GH3 easier is they seem to have removed timing with Hammer ons and pull offs. The best example of this is the Halo song or any shining long notes. If you look at the last set of notes on expert (find a video on youtube :P) you'll see they are all shining held notes. If you strum the regular note, and press the next note coming up AT ANY POINT before it reaches the line, as soon as it crosses the line, it'll still count. You can break the current held note (without breaking combo) hold the next note for any length of time before the note reaches the line, and it'll count when it hits the line.

What this means is that for fast hammer-ons you really don't have to be as accurate as you did with GH2. In GH2 you had to tap the hammer ons as soon as they were crossing the line.

You can't pull off any note, if you could, the intro to Take This Life would be a cakewalk, but since you have to strum every single note in most of the beginning, it's very challenging.

Slayer X Nov 24, 2007 12:42 PM

Pull-offs are just as relevant in this game as any. Thing is unlike hammer-ons where they show you where to use them. Pull-offs are left to the creativity of the player.

Example, whenever tou see two notes that switch back and forth. Let's say R & Y. Instead of moving your fingures to hit R then Y then R then Y... you can instead hold R and just push Y and then release and then press again. But like I said though, the player has to intergrate this themselves. They don't do it for you.

Also some will use Pull-offs more then others.

Luceid Nov 25, 2007 08:03 PM

Slayer's Raining Blood can go fucking die. After trying that song in Hard for at least 4 hours, I couldn't beat it until I practiced the notes slower and kinda got the hang of it. I still hate it with passion and wish it was never added.

The soundtrack is decent, with a few great songs, like Knights of Cydonia, Number of the Beast, One, Talk Dirty to Me, The Devil Went Down to Georgia, Avalanca (Fuck yeah for Heroes del Silencio), and a couple of others.

I mean though, fuck, the difficulty is ridiculously high for Hard, and tried Expert and wasn't really fun. This is something I really dislike about the game, and ruins a lot of the fun for me. Guitar Hero 2 was the first rhythm game I have picked up in a long time since my dancepad for DDR died, and Hard had its difficulty, but wasn't ridiculous like this game is. I do way better on Expert at GH2 than this one. Have seen videos of Youtube of people doing all these crazy feats like beating Through the Fire and Flames, and all sorts of shit. God damnit, I can hardly do it on Normal, and Hard feels like Expert at some point because it's just stupid.

I enjoy the game at certain point, but perhaps I'll try Rock Band out. Been checking the soundtrack, and the gameplay videos, it looks more fun than this one, because I'm sure it won't be frustrating to play when I don't know how to play a real guitar for shit (when I really want to learn later on).

These are my two cents.

DarthSavior Nov 25, 2007 08:16 PM

At least you can beat Raining Blood on Hard. I can't get past Mosh I. I'm starting to 4/5-star the songs on Hard, but the tier 7/8 songs are just insane. Not because of the speed, but songs like Before I Forget and 3's and 7's have ridiculously insane note patterns that come at me way too fast to react to.

And don't get me started on Through the Fire and Flames on Hard. Best I could do is 24% through the song, and that's if I can achieve Star Power when Post Insanity comes around.

Slash Nov 25, 2007 08:25 PM

Neversoft totally dropped the ball...had I known this game would have been full of suck I would have saved my 90 bucks for rockband or something

RacinReaver Nov 26, 2007 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Luceid (Post 539357)
Slayer's Raining Blood can go fucking die. After trying that song in Hard for at least 4 hours, I couldn't beat it until I practiced the notes slower and kinda got the hang of it. I still hate it with passion and wish it was never added.

The soundtrack is decent, with a few great songs, like Knights of Cydonia, Number of the Beast, One, Talk Dirty to Me, The Devil Went Down to Georgia, Avalanca (Fuck yeah for Heroes del Silencio), and a couple of others.

I mean though, fuck, the difficulty is ridiculously high for Hard, and tried Expert and wasn't really fun. This is something I really dislike about the game, and ruins a lot of the fun for me. Guitar Hero 2 was the first rhythm game I have picked up in a long time since my dancepad for DDR died, and Hard had its difficulty, but wasn't ridiculous like this game is. I do way better on Expert at GH2 than this one. Have seen videos of Youtube of people doing all these crazy feats like beating Through the Fire and Flames, and all sorts of shit. God damnit, I can hardly do it on Normal, and Hard feels like Expert at some point because it's just stupid.

I enjoy the game at certain point, but perhaps I'll try Rock Band out. Been checking the soundtrack, and the gameplay videos, it looks more fun than this one, because I'm sure it won't be frustrating to play when I don't know how to play a real guitar for shit (when I really want to learn later on).

These are my two cents.

Well, they probably imagine people that have been playing since the first GH have been getting better, so they should gradually ramp the difficulty up so they don't feel like they can walk up to the newest game and beat expert on their first play through.

Can't you still unlock all of the content just by playing through the game on Normal? Complaining about not being able to beat GH3 on the highest level is like complaining about not being able to beat Wolfenstein on the hardest difficulty. You just need to be really freaking good at the game in order to do it.

OmagnusPrime Nov 26, 2007 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RacinReaver (Post 539601)
Can't you still unlock all of the content just by playing through the game on Normal?

Even better, you can unlock all the stuff by playing through on easy now, as opposed to GH2 where you have to play through on at least medium to get the encore songs. That said, you'll need a friend and probably a second guitar to unlock all the other songs, as some are co-op only by the looks of it.

DarthSavior Nov 26, 2007 07:57 AM

Of course, you could always enter an "unlock all songs" cheat. >_>

I've tried dabbling into a few songs on expert, I apparently can 5-star "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" and "Story of My Life." I know, they're tier 1 songs, but I'm surprised I could play them. o_o

Paco Nov 26, 2007 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Slash (Post 539375)
Neversoft totally dropped the ball...had I known this game would have been full of suck I would have saved my 90 bucks for rockband or something

Dude... We get it. You hate the game. The last three pages have had randomly placed posts with you expressing your anger for the game. Take it back to Gamestop and be done with it already.

YO PITTSBURGH MIKE HERE Nov 26, 2007 01:02 PM

I don't see why everyone hates this one all of a sudden, when (to me, at least) it feels exactly the same as the previous two.

Luceid Nov 26, 2007 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RacinReaver (Post 539601)
Well, they probably imagine people that have been playing since the first GH have been getting better, so they should gradually ramp the difficulty up so they don't feel like they can walk up to the newest game and beat expert on their first play through.

Can't you still unlock all of the content just by playing through the game on Normal? Complaining about not being able to beat GH3 on the highest level is like complaining about not being able to beat Wolfenstein on the hardest difficulty. You just need to be really freaking good at the game in order to do it.

True, that is one thing to consider, but to newer players to the game/genre, might not be that fun. For the hardcore fans, it might be a good challenge.

You can unlock most of the content in Easy, like Omagnus posted, but it's not about unlocking everything, it's about improving, and being able to play better on higher difficulties. Guess it's a personal feat; not required, but always nice to be able to do. Fuck, I'm sure I won't beat Raining Blood on Expert in about 5 months if I play frequently. :tpg:

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Originally Posted by DarthSavior (Post 539370)
At least you can beat Raining Blood on Hard. I can't get past Mosh I. I'm starting to 4/5-star the songs on Hard, but the tier 7/8 songs are just insane. Not because of the speed, but songs like Before I Forget and 3's and 7's have ridiculously insane note patterns that come at me way too fast to react to.

And don't get me started on Through the Fire and Flames on Hard. Best I could do is 24% through the song, and that's if I can achieve Star Power when Post Insanity comes around.

What I did to get past the Mosh 1 of Raining Blood was practice, and a lot. Go slow and check how the patterns go, then increase the speed little by little, acing it all the way. When you get to Full Speed finally, try to do it, and just make sure to hit as many as possible. The mistake I kept on making was just to press the buttons insanely fast, which made me lose not even halfway through it. With practice, you'll notice how to do it. Once the Mosh is over, you will do good! As for Before I Forget, yeah, agreed 100%. Practice is very helpful in this game, haha.

No, don't start with Through the Fire and Flames, please. That song is frustrating, and won't beat it in a long time. Period. :(

The_Griffin Nov 26, 2007 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthSavior (Post 539639)
Of course, you could always enter an "unlock all songs" cheat. >_>

I've tried dabbling into a few songs on expert, I apparently can 5-star "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" and "Story of My Life." I know, they're tier 1 songs, but I'm surprised I could play them. o_o

I can't even get past the intro on "Story of My Life." On Hard. :gonk:

wvlfpvp Nov 27, 2007 08:45 AM

Am I the only person who wishes that instead of ramping up the difficulty of the lower tiers just to make veterans happy, they'd just go and make another difficulty level higher than Expert?

DarthSavior Nov 27, 2007 04:26 PM

How do people get used to hitting GRB or RYO chords quickly? Getting my fingering to hit those is just... unnatural. =/

The_Griffin Nov 27, 2007 05:31 PM

To be honest? The same way that I'm getting used to playing Hard. Practice, practice, practice. And tons of it.

AlphaDeus Nov 28, 2007 09:42 PM

There seems to be some confusion about the point I was trying to make about pull-offs.

Of course you can hold down lower fret buttons whenever you're pressing a single higher fret button (2 & 3 notes you have to press only those buttons) and this is especially helpful on parts that require you to alternate between the same high and low fret over and over while strumming.

But the actual "use" of a pull-off was the ability to hit a series of fast notes without strumming (the glowing notes). In the original Guitar Hero, this was the ONLY way to hit descending glowing note streams. You had to hold down all the notes in the stream and pull-off each finger at the right time to hit the rest of the notes.

It's hard to explain without pictures :P

Anyway, I'm glad they beefed up the difficulty. If anything, they should put an extra difficulty in between medium and hard to bridge the learning gap. They really can't make the game much harder, and expert should always be considered the top level. (although if they ever announced a "Master" level, I'd be all over that =p)

Luceid Nov 30, 2007 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthSavior (Post 540490)
How do people get used to hitting GRB or RYO chords quickly? Getting my fingering to hit those is just... unnatural. =/

I still have a lot of issues with this, because I always screw up; my fingers aren't fast enough, or not good coordination to pull that. Sometimes it happens and don't know how... Tried practicing that kind of thing last time with Guitar Hero's 2 X-Stream of Voivoid, and just fucked up all the time in the very last part.

Still require a lot of practice. ;_;

nanaman Dec 1, 2007 08:03 PM

I love the concept of the Guitar Hero games, although as a guitar player I'd say it's not that very close to the real deal (well I know that is kinda obvious but still), and I wish they had found a better use for the whammy bar cause now you just wham it like crazy to fill the star meter.

I can understand playing the game for fun a couple of times, but practicing to get real good is no use I think. If you have time to practice imitating to play the guitar it's just better to practice playing the real deal because it's more rewarding in the end.

And bout the game, I think this game has the best songs so far, lots of great tunes in this one (except the fucking slayer song, god how I hate Slayer! The song is crap and it's not even fun to play). The bonus songs suck as always though.

Cataclysm Dec 1, 2007 08:26 PM

Has anyone actually gotten to the death train on The Devil Went Down to Georgia on expert? I've beaten Lou several times, but getting to the end of the song is a hell of a lot more difficult... He kills me when I get around 3/4 of the song. ;_;

The_Griffin Dec 1, 2007 08:33 PM

Same here... except I failed on Medium. I shudder to think about what it's going to be like on Hard (when I get there eventually, and oh lord I will).

Golfdish from Hell Dec 1, 2007 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nanaman (Post 543117)
I can understand playing the game for fun a couple of times, but practicing to get real good is no use I think. If you have time to practice imitating to play the guitar it's just better to practice playing the real deal because it's more rewarding in the end.

True, but maybe people just enjoy playing the game? You could make the same argument for any type of game (like, why bother with Grand Theft Auto when you can SHOOT PEOPLE, STEAL CARS AND KILL HOOKERS FOR REAL?)

Although I have to admit...I think GH made using my index and ring finger together a lot easier on a real guitar. My hand doesn't cramp up like it used to when I started and it feels a lot more natural. Plus, I think GH is a good way for people to gain an appreciation of just what a real guitarist is doing, where notes are (like how constant greens simulate strumming the low E string), how fast you have to make transitions on the fretboard and how many notes a real guitarist is firing off, especially when you can barely hit enough to pass on a simplified toy.

TCK Dec 1, 2007 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nanaman (Post 543117)
And bout the game, I think this game has the best songs so far, lots of great tunes in this one (except the fucking slayer song, god how I hate Slayer! The song is crap and it's not even fun to play). The bonus songs suck as always though.

While Slayer is pretty shitty, or more specifically the Hard Rain part, some of the bonus tracks are amongst the best in the game if you give them the time of day. Most notably Avalancha, Heir Kommt Alex and The Way It Ends.

Golfdish from Hell Dec 2, 2007 08:47 AM

Okay, question: I just came across this new magical drug that improves my scores called "Hyper Speed". Anyone else use it? I played around with it for a few hours last night and I boosted most of my scores by pretty significant amounts. Once I got used to the speed boost, it spaced everything out so I don't have clumps of notes I have to hit at a time, so I wasn't losing my multipliers on scaled rows of notes every 2 seconds and made it so my brain could actually process the solos. Personally, I think it's a lot more enjoyable with it on.

Oh, and I happen to love Slayer, but I'm not really looking forward to anymore of their songs in GH. Ditto Dragonforce. And it doesn't helped RB that it has the same stupid bassline I hate in Barracuda leading into Mosh 1.

Cataclysm Dec 2, 2007 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldfishX (Post 543356)
Okay, question: I just came across this new magical drug that improves my scores called "Hyper Speed". Anyone else use it? I played around with it for a few hours last night and I boosted most of my scores by pretty significant amounts. Once I got used to the speed boost, it spaced everything out so I don't have clumps of notes I have to hit at a time, so I wasn't losing my multipliers on scaled rows of notes every 2 seconds and made it so my brain could actually process the solos. Personally, I think it's a lot more enjoyable with it on.

Quite a lot of people use it actually, since Scorehero does accept this as an acceptable mode to play with.

AlphaDeus Dec 2, 2007 04:06 PM

I personally prefer to play without hyperspeed because I feel better playing the game the way it was meant to be played. I tried hyperspeed briefly and it boosted a bunch of my scores because the notes were easier to read. I kind of felt bad so I only use it when I'm playing against someone who "has" to use it (since I don't have a choice :P and I feel bad for them because it makes me play better =P). I don't really consider it cheating, I just like the extra challenge of having to decipher notes close together.

Golfdish from Hell Dec 2, 2007 05:04 PM

Yeah, I don't consider it "cheating" either, but I understand why its' not the default either (considering how many people struggle moving from medium to hard for the speed). It screws me up a little on songs that require rapid-strumming, but helps for just about everything else...My hand actually hurts because I'm able to hit everything now. ;p

But yeah, from here on out, I'll ask whoever I'm playing if they use hyperspeed and if not...No big deal.

Luceid Dec 2, 2007 10:21 PM

Quick question; is it possible to use Hyperspeed in Hard? and if so, how to do it?

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Originally Posted by TCK (Post 543207)
While Slayer is pretty shitty, or more specifically the Hard Rain part, some of the bonus tracks are amongst the best in the game if you give them the time of day. Most notably Avalancha, Heir Kommt Alex and The Way It Ends.

Fuck yes, you deserve props. :D

Little Brenty Brent Brent Dec 2, 2007 10:30 PM

It's a code you have to enter in the cheats menu.

Also, Avalancha is awesome as hell.

Cataclysm Dec 2, 2007 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Luceid (Post 543831)
Quick question; is it possible to use Hyperspeed in Hard? and if so, how to do it?

You can pretty much use hyperspeed in any difficulty, though the scroll speed will pretty much differ with different difficulties. Hyperspeed 5 on Expert won't be nearly as fast as Hyperspeed 5 on Easy.

Here's the cheat. You just enter the cheat under the options menu, and make sure you strum the same time you push the frets as well.
Spoiler:
Orange Blue Orange Yellow Orange Blue Orange Yellow

Luceid Dec 2, 2007 10:50 PM

Sweet, thanks Cataclysm, will give it a try after I get back from work. :D

DarthSavior Dec 2, 2007 11:12 PM

I tried Hyperspeed 5 on Hard difficulty. My scores were horrible, but when I turned it off it seemed like Hard's speed was the same as Medium and Medium went slow as molasses. I'm easily 5-starring the last few songs on medium that I just couldn't do.

But damnit, I still can't get higher than 3 stars on Through the Fire and Flames on Medium. ;_;

Cataclysm Dec 2, 2007 11:28 PM

Then again, who uses hyperspeed 5? ;_;

I'm not sure what the difficulty differences are b/w Hard and Expert, but Hyperspeed really does help quite a bit in terms of performance in Expert. Maybe you should try Hyperspeed 1 or 2 perhaps and see if your scores do improve? If all the level speeds don't work for you, then it might be an issue of not knowing the song well enough to become adjusted to the scroll speed difference.

Golfdish from Hell Dec 2, 2007 11:48 PM

I've been using Hyperspeed 3, which seems to be about the same as earlier GH (which I went back and tested). I canned Hyperspeed 5 two and a half songs into it and HS1 and 2 didn't really seem to change much.

But damn...It works. So many sections where I lose my multipliers normally, I can see. Even Psychobilly Freakout makes some sense now. It's a double godsend for me, since I've been struggling with the speed difference from the Harmonix games to III for awhile. Now it's just fast and the board's cleaner.

DarthSavior Dec 3, 2007 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldfishX (Post 543880)
I've been using Hyperspeed 3, which seems to be about the same as earlier GH (which I went back and tested). I canned Hyperspeed 5 two and a half songs into it and HS1 and 2 didn't really seem to change much.

But damn...It works. So many sections where I lose my multipliers normally, I can see. Even Psychobilly Freakout makes some sense now. It's a double godsend for me, since I've been struggling with the speed difference from the Harmonix games to III for awhile. Now it's just fast and the board's cleaner.

Maybe I was overshooting myself with Hyperspeed 5. >_<

Used Hyperspeed 3, and while I sucked at the speed, when going to normal I can actually pass songs that seemed impossible for me (I'm looking at you, Before I Forget and 3's & 7's). Some other songs saw a slight to considerable improvement in my scores.


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