Suikoden Club v...8
 

Yes, keeping the tradition alive....Every new crash gave us a new number, so why shouldn't a server move?

This, of course, is the thread to discuss Suikoden. With the next-gen consoles running around, we can speculate about the future of this series.

And the last question of the previous thread was this:

Does anyone think Konami will release a Suikoden spinoff for the PSP?

Personally, I doubt it--unless they decide to cut the Stars of Destiny down to a manageable number for the hand-held.

The PSP handles Breath of Fire 3 just fine and that fit on the same size disc as S1 and 2 originally so there's no reason why a full fledged Suikoden game wouldn't see the light of day. I'm not sure what benefit there'd be to a portable version though, other than being able to play it on the train. Suikoden has always been about the story and is very much a one person experience so the online capabilities of the PSP would be pretty redundant.

If there was going to be an extension of the Suikoden series on PSP, I'd like to see a more spin-off approach, maybe following some of the more popular characters after one of the games. Following Viktor and Flik between 1 and 2 maybe? There's plenty of ambiguity in the end of game stories for each character which leaves lots of scope for character development in a new game.

I can't believe this thread is up to version 8 already. I wonder whatever happened to Runemaster Jeanne and Dragonmaster Don from the first few versions of the thread?

I would like to see a spin off on the psp (it would give me a good reason to get one, but I was thinking about having vicky as the star.

If the new incarnation of Suikoden is as good as V, I may just have to buy a ps 3 (assuming it will wind up there).

I hope so, but if not it would be another reason for me to get a x box 360 (this and ace combat 6 would be the only reasons I need.)

I didn't know that. I usually don't play hand-helds, so I forget that some of them have great capabilities.

I thought about this after I posted, and I agree with you. What did they go through between 1 and 2? How did they get out of the castle?!

Or Ted's adventures until 1.

But, I like the idea of Viki as the main character. Maybe then we'd learn more about her.

Jeane shows up occasionally, and I think DragonMaster Don changed his name...(not sure on that).

well i am glade i'm not the only one who would like to see vicky as a main character with her blinking rune she must have seen and done a lot of stuff on her own.

In V, she makes some pretty strange comments, and I think she ranks right up there with the Yuber/Pesmerga story....

I just played that game not to long ago, but I don't remember what you are talking about.

Let's see....(It's been a while, so bear with me...)

She makes a comment about sending the Prince to somewhere "different" (I can't remember the exact words..) Then immediately tells the Prince to forget she said that.

She also remembers being in the castle before.

She denies saving Lorelai (which we all know why she said it...)

I can't think of anything else, but the castle comment makes you wonder....

I remember 2 of them.:) I also read how it was vicky that saved Lorelai (witch was not her intention, but whatever :P

If she was to become a star of a future suikoden game I would love to see her hometown (the place she is trying to get back to) and find out how she got her blinking rune

I'm replaying Suikoden V right now, and one of Viki's "comments" in the box struck a chord.

"I keep meeting Jeane..."

Why not a game that focuses on Jeane and Viki? They've been in every game, so that would be interesting.

Or, a game that focuses the Ancient Armes Dynasty--the one before the Sindar. Jeane and Eresh seemed to know a lot about those ruins....

I think that it's mentioned in the game that the ruins where you find Eresh are even older than Old Armes, even from before the Sindar iirc. I doubt that there will ever be a game about Armes, since most of its history is discussed in V, and it's basically only used to explain the danger of the Sun rune.

A game with Viki or Jeane would be awesome, since they've seen so many conflicts (it would be cool to see the previous games from their perspective), but it doesn't go that well with the main storyline of a rebellion force rising against an evil kingdom/empire/etc. It could be a nice gaiden though.

I would still kill for a game dealing with the Sindar, especially since I can't help but love dear old Lorelai so much.

Hee hee, someone looking for me? Damn, I feel almost famous. Guess I should stop in more often huh? I feel the need to have a lost Atreides brothers reunion(yay for Bubba and Gunther!!). :)

To actually be on topic, I would totally go for a Jeane game. There's so much mystery about her, I think it would be nice to have some more info to explain her. It could work as a PSP game or something. Another idea could be maybe a compilation of the more mysterious characters(Jeane, Ted, Viki, Yuber/Pesmerga, etc) in a semi Suikoden 3 style where you can switch back and forth between stories. Something like that.

(It's Tee hee....)Uhhhh....who is who again? You're Bubba, aren't you?

Don't forget Leknaat and Zerase, too. Zerase especially--although at the end of V, she's never heard from again.....:savepoint: :(

Oh, and by the way....

*pounces Jeane hello*

*goes off looking for her socks.*

yeah it is a shame I started to like her by the end of them game.. Tho maybe in the next game she might make a return.

So the release of the Suikoden V UNDUB (Japanese audio/English text fanbase release) finally gave me a reason to finish the game, and I did a couple of days ago. Fantastic game when you remove the talentless English VAs and replace them with their original Japanese counterparts.

I'm hoping VI brings the True Rune struggle that Lucretia mentioned very late in the game to life, and shines a little more light on another part of the Suikoden world. I will riot if this series moves to DS/PSP and deteriorates like Lufia or Lunar has now that the PS3 and 360 are going full swing.

Well sounds nice. I wish I had a modded ps2 so I could do that.

My PS2 isn't modded, but it's one of the larger models with the HD bay that is taking advantage of the Independence Exploit to run games via HDLoader from the HD. Requires you have one of the older PS2s (not slimline) and a Network Adapter. Long as you have those, you're gold.

I know this is totally random, but something in the Suiko games that was never answered (to my knowledge) that always got on my nerves was the whole conflict with Pesmerga and Yuber. You see Yuber later on in the series, but Pesmerga disappears with no mention what so ever. I'd also like to see what Tir is up to (hero of the first game) sometime or another.

I've only played up to Suikoden 3, but 3 was enough to drive me away from the series (it was alright, but I expected more I suppose). I've heard that Suiko 5 is pretty decent, but it seems to me that the Suiko games are fading in quality. I hope they tie up some loose ends with additions to the series later on.

I don't think that's true. V is easily up there with 2 IMO, the only problem is the visuals were a bit bland and the difficulty was nil, but that's pretty much been the truth for every Suikoden game, anyway, so it definitely wasn't declining because of it. You'll enjoy V 100% guaranteed if you enjoyed 1 and 2.

I was not a big fan of the VA witch is why I said what I did in my last post. I played and beaten the game (tho I did not get every 108 SoD (since I did not start off using a guide to find them (so I got the shitty ending then I downloaded a game save to see the good one) :D

I've probably been toughened up over the years from poor voice acting, so it never honestly bothered me. It's certainly better treatment than a lot of games wind up getting at any rate. I've played through games with infinitely more disappointing voice talent.

I have not played that many games w/ voice acting. So I am not as tolerant to it as you are. :eagletear:

Play Suikoden V aand your opinion will change quickly. It's like playing an updated version of Suikoden II(with that game still being slightly better than all of them lol)

III never got released here so I've not played it but V is a huge improvement over IV. Some of the 108 are pretty tough to recruit, even if you know all of Suikoden's little tricks (As in re-visit every town and dungeon after every event and keep switching obscure members of the team in to your party).

I think that for the next Suikoden game to keep the epic scale of the previous ones, it kinda needs to be set elsewhere in the world and in a different time frame. Huge wars need periods of calm between them really and straight after each game there's a lot of true runes concentrated in one area as a rule.

I live in hope that there'll be an ultimate Suikoden one day that brings all the true rune bearers together (Including Stallion!) for a proper climactic ending. One hopes that the processing power of the PS3 would allow for full 3d large scale battles although from a gameplay and strategy point of view, I prefer a more turn based approach to real time. Something like the Kessen games would be pretty cool though.

'True Holy Rune' is just a mistranslation, it's supposed to be 'godspeed'. Stallion isn't a true rune bearer. :(

That all depends on your definition of "shitty." :p

As for the Yuber/Pesmerga plotline: I believe the creator of the series said their battle will come to a head in the final installment of the series. Which is one way to make sure people buy it....

They also have to reveal the truth about Jeane, Viki, and Leknaat.

Shin: I love V. I think it got all the elements rights. If Konami kept the battle/duel formulas the same--I don't think anyone would mind. Do you?

Hows V?

Been awhile since i played it.. it was a pain to find too.. im getting it from Amazon, since nobody in town has it.

is there not an official site for V? if so, its gone now. :(

Like I said...it all depends on your definition of shitty. I actually LIKED that ending....

Evil--I know....

rpgcrazied--V is VERY good. The writers actually lift you up, then crash you into the ground with the story. I'm not going to say much more than that.

And, the endings aren't decided by just the recruiting, but how you behave during the game.

Be Nice
Be a jerk
Be half and half
Don't recruit people
Recruit people

Those also factor in what ending you get.

Well I guess I was not nice enough then

I found my old sig.. i need a new suiko V related avatar/sig

whos is good at makin em? :P

Hey! That's the Kyle Avatar I made! LOL

I'm not very good at making sigs....I just slap things together....

But, isn't there still a sig request thread running around somewhere?

I still hold I had one of the most badass Suiko V av/sigs ever. The Georg/Arshtat/Ferid one with the transparent background, and the awesome avatar featuring what's-her-name the ubermage.

I need to get a suikoden V related av/sig myself

Except for the broken characters, V's battle system was spot on. The only thing that let it down compared to II was that it was still too east to collect characters and the plot was a bit predictable but then possibly that's only because I've played so many Suikoden games. Also, the voice acting was horrible. I wish games companies would put in options to turn it off, especially when they use all American actors. Nothing personal to anyone here but American accents don't sit well with me in a fantasy setting. Probably because your country is only 500 odd years old...

Hehe, I found my old sig as well. It still has my old user name inside it though. But I still love the way it looks! :)

I made my avatar with my not so leet photoshop skills by taking a promo image of the Hero, Georg, and Lyon, and just keeping Lyon. I then found the background through Google images and slapped them together. I like it, but meh it's nothing spectacular.

woot, the person that made my club sig from suiko 2.. made me a nice v sig :)

Thanks guest! Just need a prince avater now

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...is/Georgav.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...s/GeorgSig.jpg

Absolutely love this av/sig.

You're welcome! :) I made all the old Suikoden Club Sigs, unfortunately I lost them to a virus last year. :( If anyone still has their old S-Club sig, I'd be happy to make you a new one. Just send me a PM with the old one, and the pics you want me to use for the new one. Or you can just post it here, so no one asks for the same thing.

Guest wasn't your name before, though, was it?

And, I'm surprised I haven't made a V sig myself...LOL

Well still willing to make new sigs for those who did not have one Before (like me:P)

It was either FATE or Twilight.

Yeah sure, I'll make you one. Just show me the pics you want in it.

I love the fact Georg is in the middle. And the mage's name is Zerase. Her scene in the bath was funny.

Guest (Twilight)--I was wondering what happened to you. Did you play V?

Well, I'm still playing IV after having it since it came out two years ago. Same with V, still playing that since last year as well. Personally I don't really like IV, but V is nice. It's just that theres 10 other games I'm trying to beat at the same time. Soon it'll be 11 when Persona 3 comes out. =x

I had that problem for awhile too. Eventually you have to realise you have to just tackle them one at a time or you risk never beating them at all. I've been doing that for the last year or so and surprisingly my backlog is actually finally starting to thin out. Heh.

I really, really want to play this Suikoden V UNDUB, but I am having a hard time finding out what the hell it is. Can someone please explain?

Try 200+.

I have no clue, but "Undub" just sounds like it'd be without English dubbing.

...And a quick Google search informs me that this is almost assuredly the case. English text with the spoken dialogue in Japanese. Basically for Japanophiles.

True. But it was discovered by Columbus in 1492--500+ years ago.

Shin--I understand what you're saying. We've all been brought up with Fairy Tales that originated in Europe, so we tend to think of the voices with those accents. The same can be said for video games. (Wow...Video Games as modern fairy tales....lol)

Well, that I could figure out. What I meant was: is this some sort of fan product that is available on ROM, or what? Could I download it? I looked on Google and didn't find what I was looking for.

And I think that without being a "Japanophile" it would be worthwhile, considering that the American voice actors were, more or less, B-actor quality.

The voice actors are from the same pool of 40 or so that all the major companies use for their games.

Anyway, it's a hack that was made by fans. It's in the standard .iso format, like all PS2 DVD-ROM rips. You would download it with a torrent program and burn it onto a blank DVD.

At least some games companies seem to be learning now. One of the tings I like about FFXII is that there's very few American accents in it, what with the Archadian Empire all having British accents (Coz they're evil, naturally). Sure, Vaan still sounds like someone you want to punch from a second rate Disney film but luckily he doesn't say a great deal. Likewise, Fable scored big for only using British voice actors although as a pretty much 100% British game you'd expect that I guess.

What I enjoyed about FFXII's voice acting was every area had a different accent. It's the first video game where the accents seemed normal and made you feel like you were traveling the globe.

Hey guys, I started playing Suikoden V again yesterday and was wondering if someone can help me out. I asked on GameFAQs but the S5 board seems kind of dead.. I'm at an early point in the game just after you can start recruiting new characters, according to the guides (and Lyon) I need to go to Rainwell next. Problem is they aren't good at giving directions, it says follow the river going northeast from Southern Wharf to Rainwell but all I get to is a dead end.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3554/stuckrx4.jpg

Theres only one way to leave Raftfleet and thats by Logg's ship right? I keep running in circles here, from Raftfleet to Lordlake and that dead end. -_-

Well I did find this which might help you out http://www.chezcanelle.fr/suikodenV/geographieV/map.jpg

Thanks, I actually tried finding a map for myself but had no luck. >.>

no prob glade I could help

rainwall was the first town you go to right? it been to long I don't remember anymore

No, that was Lordlake. Rainwall is south of Haud and is the headquarters of the Barrows Faction.

oh thanks :) That one I did not have much trouble finding myself tho most everyplace else......

So is there any rumors or news at the Tokyo show if the sixth game is in some form of development? There has been zero news for over a year now and beginning to worry that the development team might have been dissolved.

No, but I don't understand why everyone gets so worried. There was two or so years before the announcement of Suikoden III ways back.

My bet is that it won't be shown until TGS '08.

Just a question for the hardcore Suikoden Fans:

I have never personally played any of the suikoden games but I will eventually play them since me and my fiance do own them all and it is her favourite rpg series of all time.

We're also video game collectors as well, mostly rare anime style rpgs.

I'm currently working up in Fort McMurray Alberta and at the local EB Games there I guess people don't really know the value of their games because I've come across some really great titles for a very cheap price.

So Far I've found up there two copies of Valkryie Profile, unfortunately I couldn't buy them because I didn't have any money at the time. I also managed to pick up Vandal Hearts II, Saga Frontier II and a few other for less than $5.

I've come across a copy of Suikoden which was practically in near mint condition and the game itself was only $3.00 so I ended up picking it up.

There is a major difference between this game and other copies that I've seen before the game that I bought was a single case copy of suikoden, much like how the case is for suikoden II, but every other copy that I've ever seen of suikoden I is the double case with the classic original artwork and the front artwork of the game that I picked up is the same as the booklet for the double case version.

I wanted to make sure that I didn't have a fake, so I checked the disc and the back artwork and everything is legitmate.

Was suikoden I ever realeased as a single case game instead of the double case. I was thinking of selling it since me and my fiance already own the double case copy but if this is a rare version of the suikoden I game more than likely I will probably hold onto it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Only a double case, so far as I know.

The only single case version of Suikoden was on the Saturn, but that didn't come out here.

Someone just left out the horrendous US front cover slip and put it into a single case.

While I've been playing Suikoden V I've been having this feeling that I should be playing Suikoden IV instead. I haven't thoroughly played or beaten a Suikoden game since III, almost 5 years ago. Question for anyone who's beat Suikoden IV and V, are there any cross references or reasons I should play IV first? I know enough about the series to know that none are direct sequels but often have returning characters. IIRC Suikoden IV takes place 180 years before Suikoden I, which makes me more interested in finding out who's over 100 years old. lol

This is what Angel was talking about.

http://i11.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/b6/e7/ee31_1.JPG

That's the one I have, Chibi....:)

Yes, well aware of what he meant. It's not an official release, just some modifications done by others.