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jouhou Apr 17, 2007 04:23 PM

Romeo x Juliet
 
http://www.romejuli.jp/top.html
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One bloody night fourteen years ago, House Montague staged a coup against the Capulets, the rulers of the floating city of Neo Verona. Despite their best efforts to exterminate the Capulet line, one young girl, Juliet, managed to survive along with a handful of family retainers.

Since that night, Juliet has lived her life masquerading as a man, hidden away from the Montagues by the playwright William Shakespeare. Only two years-old at the time of the coup, she has since been raised in ignorance of her heritage. All this is done to protect her from House Montague which continues to search for her to this day.

On the eve of her sixteenth birthday, the day when all secrets are to be revealed to her, Fate takes a hand and crosses her path with that of Romeo, heir of House Montague.

So begins this timeless tale of love and tragedy.
I never thought I'd watch this but I thought I'd give it a try. The main story should be pretty much the same as Shakespeare's play but there are differences from the original play such as Juliet disguised as a man and having to hide from the Montague, Romeo being heart broken because he can't hook up with Rosaline, the story taking place on a floating island, and people having a pegasus (flying horse). I'm interested in this different approach. I find it more interesting that reading the play or watching movies of it. There's two episodes out so far. I've seen the first and I'm enjoying it.

The opening song is "Inori ~You Raise Me Up~" by Lena Park
It should be released sometime in June 2007
The ending song is "Cyclone" by 12012
Also released sometime in June 2007

Kesubei Apr 17, 2007 06:38 PM

I expected this to be pretty bad, but so far it's my favorite of the new shows this season, out of the ones I'm actively following (which includes Lucky Star, Blue Dragon, and Xenoglossia).

Instead of making a direct translation of the play, GONZO has taken more than a few liberties. For example, the shows seems like it'll have small subplots about the gap between the rich and the poor, and Juliet isn't portrayed as a sheltered rich girl. It looks as if the anime will have much more conflict than the original work, which could really be exciting to watch.

The animation and character designs are very clean looking, especially in HD. The music, done by Hitoshi Sakimoto (Final Fantasy XII, Radiant Silvergun, Vagrant Story), is grand and fits well into the world of Neo Verona. It still has the potential to turn out terrible, but I'm pleased with what I've seen so far.

bahamuty Apr 17, 2007 07:29 PM

I've watched the first episode and I liked it.
The art and animation is very nice.

I hope we'll get a different ending than the original story though.

Hiro Apr 17, 2007 08:15 PM

I too will compliment on the fine art and animation, though that was just the first episode. I hope it doesn't go and hit the gutter like what happened with the third episode of StrikerS.

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Originally Posted by bahamuty (Post 424893)
I hope we'll get a different ending than the original story though.

Unless they execute it properly, I'd personally prefer that they stick with the original.

RacinReaver Apr 18, 2007 12:41 AM

Someone PM me when Friar Laurence comes flying in on his Gundam.

crabman Apr 18, 2007 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Devoxycontin (Post 425049)
Twist: Juliet is a dickgirl. And Mercutio is a pedophile.

Whoah, futa AND loli. Throw in a tentacle monster somewhere and you've got yourself another viewer.

The Plane Is A Tiger Apr 18, 2007 03:04 AM

I wasn't really interested in this before, but it does sound... interesting. After all, floating continents always make for a good time. How is Romeo being heartbroken over Rosaline different from the original play though? That was pretty much the entire opening before.

jouhou Apr 18, 2007 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tritoch (Post 425091)
I wasn't really interested in this before, but it does sound... interesting. After all, floating continents always make for a good time. How is Romeo being heartbroken over Rosaline different from the original play though? That was pretty much the entire opening before.

Before I was thinking Hermione as Rosaline. But, if you see it as Odin as Rosaline then yeah, it's pretty much the same as the play. (I didn't think of Odin as Rosaline, until now. I didn't catch that little twist.)

zzeroparticle May 18, 2007 08:33 PM

Finally caught up on this show.

Up until episode 6, the series started from an awesome introduction to the backstory and spiraled downwards into a cheesy love story where nothing really happens. The pacing up to this point has been a lot slower than what I'd been hoping for with plenty of angst, gasping, and blushing between the two parties to make me shake my head. At least with episode 6, Juliet gets a good kick in the ass to bring her back to reality and get her to realize what's at stake. It's been long overdue.

With episode 6, we get the start of some pretty good action sequences from the start and it closes really well. What I enjoyed most about this episode is how Juliet is starting to shed the childish ideas she had held and how it looks like she'll be taking her role seriously from this point onwards. The court intrigue heats up, and although I did anticipate what would happen to Vittorio, it was presented well. Hopefully this marks the point at which the series starts going into high gear and we get a good war and love story out of this.

I'm just waiting for Team Capulet to start declaring an open rebellion. Don't get me wrong, the romance is all nice and good, but the main reason I'm watching this show is to watch the rebellion take full swing against Team Montague. A good love story on top of that will sweeten the deal.

killmoms Jun 6, 2007 06:13 PM

This is the only show worth watching this season. Fuck that Lucky Star bullshit.

DarknessTear Jun 6, 2007 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by killmoms (Post 446788)
This is the only show worth watching this season. Fuck that Lucky Star bullshit.

Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
Darker Than Black
Seirei no Moribito
Toward the Terra
Death Note
Gigantic Formula
Denno Coil
Bokurano
Oh Edo Rocket

It doesn't look like this season is lacking to me.

-=SeRaPH=- Jun 7, 2007 12:46 AM

So... do you guys like the music???

=^_^=//

RainMan Jun 7, 2007 12:56 AM

^^^LOL. Have you no shame?

Seriously, I think you should be very proud of what you guys have done as an orchestra. You guys nailed it. :) It probably takes a lot of energy to harness the subtle power behind Sakimoto's music, so congrats on a job well done.

The sense of composition is amazing.

-=SeRaPH=- Jun 7, 2007 01:03 AM

Ahaha!

Well I gotta ask... no one in australia seen it except for our staff and it is our very first anime recording too >.>

Thank you!

Bigblah Jun 7, 2007 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by killmoms (Post 446788)
This is the only show worth watching this season. Fuck that Lucky Star bullshit.

Yeah, fuck that Hayate the Combat Butler bullshit too :judge:


Seraph: any idea when the soundtrack release is going to be? I need to order that.

Kairi Li Jun 7, 2007 02:49 AM

I doubt we can compare a slices of life anime with no real plot to something epic like this guys... They're different genres. And Hayate is a comedy.

Great show though, and defintly excellant music. I need the OST ASAP.

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Well I gotta ask... no one in australia seen it except for our staff and it is our very first anime recording too >.>
Aww Seraph, I'M in Australia!

:(

jouhou Jun 8, 2007 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by -=SeRaPH=- (Post 447050)
So... do you guys like the music???

=^_^=//

There are a few tracks that stand out SUPER EXCEPTIONALLY such as when Romeo and Juliet first meet <3

agreatguy6 Jun 8, 2007 08:51 PM

God, no more of this Shakespeare remake shit! The movies were bad enough, the PLAY was bad enough, but this is just too much. If they can improve, I'll scream with Shakespeare Fanboi Joy, but if it's anything like that horrible manga version of a sci-fi Macbeth, i'll just... iccccckkkkkk!!!! I don't even want to think about it!

Bigblah Jun 8, 2007 09:10 PM

I bet you're not even going to watch it anyway.

Sakabadger Jun 9, 2007 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by agreatguy6 (Post 448548)
God, no more of this Shakespeare remake shit! The movies were bad enough, the PLAY was bad enough, but this is just too much. If they can improve, I'll scream with Shakespeare Fanboi Joy

Wait what

You dislike the original play, but you want them to improve on it, which would probably mean embellishing or remaking parts of it, but you hate remakes, so... what?

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Originally Posted by Bigblah
I bet you're not even going to watch it anyway.


Lacerta Jun 9, 2007 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by agreatguy6 (Post 448548)
God, no more of this Shakespeare remake shit! The movies were bad enough, the PLAY was bad enough, but this is just too much. If they can improve, I'll scream with Shakespeare Fanboi Joy, but if it's anything like that horrible manga version of a sci-fi Macbeth, i'll just... iccccckkkkkk!!!! I don't even want to think about it!

What.

That doesn't really make any sense. If you hate this "Shakespeare remake shit" then why do you want an "improvement" from the original? Unless you're asking for something retarded then pretty much any "improvement" done to it would end up being a "remake" anyway...




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Originally Posted by Bigblah (Post 448554)
I bet you're not even going to watch it anyway.


Grawl Jun 9, 2007 11:10 AM

People who don't like Shakespeare suck anyway, so, yea...

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Originally Posted by Bigblah (Post 448554)
I bet you're not even going to watch it anyway.


jouhou Jun 9, 2007 07:46 PM

From what I understand, many people don't like Shakespeare because they have difficulty understanding Old English. A lot of effort goes into trying to understand the text so they don't pay much attention to the story and other elements of the story. I fall in this category too. I just knew the general story but if you focused more on the elements and the way the story is told then it's more enjoyable. This show is like a fresh start so give it a try. Btw, there's no Old English.

Cellius Jun 9, 2007 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sakabadger (Post 448885)
Wait what

You dislike the original play, but you want them to improve on it, which would probably mean embellishing or remaking parts of it, but you hate remakes, so... what?

You know, he probably meant if they can improve the quality of remakes - not the original - he'd be happy. Jeez.

JazzFlight Jun 9, 2007 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by -=SeRaPH=- (Post 447063)
Ahaha!

Well I gotta ask... no one in australia seen it except for our staff and it is our very first anime recording too >.>

Thank you!

Holy crap, you're involved in the soundtrack production?

...

...any way you could get us a few of the tracks before the OST is released? :bigeyes:

-=SeRaPH=- Jun 9, 2007 10:06 PM

Hell yeah, my name is on the credits lol

And hell no, I can't break NDA and pay millions in a court just to bring you guys the MP3 =P

RacinReaver Jun 9, 2007 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jouhou (Post 449274)
From what I understand, many people don't like Shakespeare because they have difficulty understanding Old English. A lot of effort goes into trying to understand the text so they don't pay much attention to the story and other elements of the story. I fall in this category too. I just knew the general story but if you focused more on the elements and the way the story is told then it's more enjoyable. This show is like a fresh start so give it a try. Btw, there's no Old English.

Not to be a dick, but Shakespeare wrote in modern English (though he won't melt with you). Old English would be stuff like Beowulf, which is pretty incomprehensible to anyone that isn't trained in it.

jouhou Jun 11, 2007 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RacinReaver (Post 449320)
Not to be a dick, but Shakespeare wrote in modern English (though he won't melt with you). Old English would be stuff like Beowulf, which is pretty incomprehensible to anyone that isn't trained in it.

Oh, ok. I wasn't sure what real old English was. But even with modern English it seems old because of the words used and the way it's worded. (It's supposed to be poetic, right?)
For example,
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"Deny thy father and refuse thy name/Or it thou wilt not be, be but sworn my love,/And I'll no longer be a Capulet."
It's pretty easy to understand what's said but the red, many students would have to read that part slower or reread it to understand because people aren't familiar with that way of speaking. I know I said "wtf?" when I first read that. It would help if teachers tell you that it = if but they always forget.

Kairi Li Jun 12, 2007 01:41 AM

If its not called old English, what should we call it? 1500's slang?

I remember studying his work, it was hard to understand, but luckily our books have "translations" on the left side page of every page.

Though this anime is not exactly a crash course of the classic literature either, and its defintly refreshing, there are way too many straight up adaptations anyway, no harm in a lil variation.

JazzFlight Jun 12, 2007 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kairi Li (Post 450594)
If its not called old English, what should we call it? 1500's slang?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Modern_English

"Early Modern English refers to the stage of the English language used from about the end of the Middle English period (the latter half of the 1400s) to 1650. Thus, the first edition of the King James Bible and the works of William Shakespeare both belong to the late phase of Early Modern English..."

agreatguy6 Aug 5, 2007 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sakabadger (Post 448885)
Wait what

You dislike the original play, but you want them to improve on it, which would probably mean embellishing or remaking parts of it, but you hate remakes, so... what?

My fault, I'm not that great when I'm pissed.
It's just that I prefer that they don't redux shakes, but if they must, it better be pretty fuqin amazing.

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Originally Posted by Forrest_Gump
And that's all i have to say about that

And no, I won't watch it, because I know it can't live up to shakespeare, much less pass him.

Bigblah Aug 5, 2007 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by agreatguy6 (Post 484838)
And no, I won't watch it, because I know it can't live up to shakespeare, much less pass him.

You refuse to watch adaptations that don't live up to its original work... and yet you're a "Fullmetal Alchemist Megafan".

zzeroparticle Aug 5, 2007 03:00 AM

Well, to his credit, this one happens to be a good show to avoid just because so far, it's been poorly written and I find some of the character actions and dialog to be one heck of a head-scratcher.

The major problem for that series is that he premise that was promised to us was a down-and-out Juliet who had been deprived of her birthright will stand up strongly to take back what was denied to her and bring about a new age of prosperity by overthrowing the Montagues. Along the way, she would fall in love with Romeo and through conflict and resolution, the two would come to a mutual understanding and together, break the chains of fate and triumph in the end after defeating the elder Montague who had usurped the throne. The struggle was supposed to be epic with Juliet taking the lead and getting the popular support of the people who would mobilize to aid her in her quest to restore order to a corrupt regime. The battles would be glorious, the plot twists awesome and unexpected, with friends turning traitor, Tybalt being awesome and a few memorable sacrifices would be made, all for the greater good in society that would come under her reign.

What we got was a total disappointment. The show started off surprisingly well. Juliet was a strong female character with a lot of promise. She truly wanted to help the people of Neo-Verona and often went out of her way to bring aid to the poor citizens. All of that changed upon meeting Romeo. Instead of retaining her tough appearance, she yielded and became soft. When her birthright was revealed to her, there was hope that she would use her strength and resolve to effect great change upon Neo Verona, but that did not come to pass. Juliet turned out to be too idealistic to kill despite the fact that those around her were dying for her cause. Pragmatism never seemed to grab a firm hold of her and she could not take on the task despite living a life of relative poverty while seeing injustice day after day. When I stopped watching the show, she still hasn't gotten her act together. Instead of actively striding towards her cause, she opts to go running off into the countryside with Romeo, effectively turning her back to her people who were dying in the streets as Duke Montague hunted them down. It's ultimately irresponsible of her and shows that she lacks the courage and maturity required to do what needs to be done for the betterment of society. The story had been hinting at awesome battles coming forth from the rebellion which will have epic badassery in the form of Tybalt, but now, I just stopped caring. I can only stomach so much incompetence, a poor handling of the script, and irrational behavior before it just wears down on me. No matter how good the action is later on, I just don't feel like watching it anymore.

That's not to say that the series doesn't hold any shred of promise since the story does have the potential for the epicness. However, I've become disheartened in their ability to hold up their end of the story. After being repeatedly disappointed, I'm done with this series.

Besides, after hearing about the QUALITY in episode 16 (I think), I don't think I'm going to regret my decision one bit. Music is pretty awesome though. Probably the other good thing I can say about this series (aside from Tybalt).

agreatguy6 Aug 5, 2007 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigblah (Post 484905)
You refuse to watch adaptations that don't live up to its original work... and yet you're a "Fullmetal Alchemist Megafan".

Oops! Thanks for reminding me, I was about to remove that. Just waiting for it to bite me in the bum...:p

hiyouhello Nov 8, 2007 10:44 PM

[QUOTE=SCHWARZE-2;447075]Yeah, fuck that Hayate the Combat Butler bullshit too :judge:




YOU SIR ARE A NOOB >=O

Sonus Nov 22, 2007 10:20 PM

Has anyone been lurking around if there are other groups secretly releasing the final episodes to this series?

So far I could only find Ep23 by [Anonymous].

The timing is horrible with the subtitles. But the translations are there so it kind of works.

I'd certainly would be interested if anyone knows decent fansub groups that have been pumping out the final episodes.

Kairi Li Dec 30, 2007 09:01 PM

Animation / TV Anime Romeo x Juliet Original Soundtrack

Romeo X Juliet soundtrack is out on Feb 20th 200!

Performed by Eminence and composed by Hitoshi Sakimoto.

Regarding fansubs, Gonzo has send out cease and desist letters to various sub groups, asking them to stop. Funimation said they didnt send them on behalf of Gonzo, and the series is not licenced for USA release yet.

Don't they realise fansubs are the REASONS why anime gets licenece? Bandai even thanked the fansubbers for making Haruhi Suzumiya become this famous and such a phenomenon in the Anime fanbase! Why can't others see it?


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