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oddigy Mar 16, 2006 01:03 AM

Holy mother, look what I found in FFXII.
 
:biggrin:

http://oddigy.com/097.psf2

Gechmir Mar 16, 2006 01:04 AM

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Interesting! This changes my outlook on the genre itself! ;O

JazzFlight Mar 16, 2006 01:06 AM

Crap, I remember this is from one of the previous FFs, but which one?

Also, where can we get the full FFXII PSF2 rip at the moment (or is it still being ripped)?

oddigy Mar 16, 2006 01:07 AM

That's total balls, the link works great for me.
Try copying and pasting it into a new browser window or something.

edit: ok, I'm not on crack, the link works for someone.

Read the comments in the psf2 tag. :P

edit again: I'm almost done checking it, but I've only timed half the tracks because I'd really like to go to bed soon. I'll upload the WIP set to my site in a little while. I'll post a news update on my site when it's up.

JazzFlight Mar 16, 2006 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by oddigy
edit again: I'm almost done checking it, but I've only timed half the tracks because I'd really like to go to bed soon. I'll upload the WIP set to my site in a little while. I'll post a news update on my site when it's up.

Wow, thanks for doing it. I can't wait to hear these.

Kaleb.G Mar 16, 2006 01:31 AM

Awesome work on ripping the game, oddigy!

Anyway, this track was pretty nice to hear. I wasn't expecting any arrangements of previous FF work as specific as this. I guess I shouldn't expect anything more, but damn it, I want to.

Golfdish from Hell Mar 16, 2006 02:19 AM

Well, this track basically made the FFV OST worthwhile by itself...Maybe it will do the same for this one. Great arrangement.

Dhsu Mar 16, 2006 02:42 AM

Haha...I can't wait to fight him in FF XII.

FPI Mar 16, 2006 06:57 AM

That is truly a Surprise, I wonder how that fit in the game for itself, is Gilgamesh returning? Besides that, I can't wait for the full OST! :D

orion_mk3 Mar 16, 2006 07:24 AM

Curse you people and your PSF2 readin' PCs. My Mac has been overlooked by the noise emulation crowd, and has no way to play the file.

I've been able to piece together what everyone is so excited about from context, but would anybody mind posting an MP3 version?

Monkey King Mar 16, 2006 09:18 AM

*swoops in before Audigy gets slashdotted, like with KH2*

It probably means Gilgamesh got stuck in as one of the requisite supar sekrit optional bosses. Squeenix is all about winking and nudging its longtime fans these days.

Interesting rearrangement, though. Sakimoto is a lot better at handling other people's music than Shimomura, that's for sure.

Onyx Mar 16, 2006 11:53 AM

As much as I hate Sakimoto, this is a great arrangement. It's different, and it's actually ARRANGED. I might just be tempted to listen to the FFXII OST now. :)

Prime Blue Mar 16, 2006 12:59 PM

Get MP3 version here, assuming a Mac supports that format. :D

THE POWER OF WATER Mar 16, 2006 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by orion_mk3
Curse you people and your PSF2 readin' PCs. My Mac has been overlooked by the noise emulation crowd, and has no way to play the file.

Yeah. USFs too. :(

Sakimoto's hit and miss with me, but I like this, marching band drumloop notwithstanding. Helps that I like the original, though. Great find.

Lolman Mar 16, 2006 03:13 PM

Not a fan of Sakimoto but I like the arrangement.

katchum Mar 16, 2006 05:39 PM

Is this really the sound of the music in this game? I expected better, nearing DOC quality.

DarknessTear Mar 16, 2006 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by katchum
Is this really the sound of the music in this game? I expected better, nearing DOC quality.

Listen to other tracks.

katchum Mar 16, 2006 07:31 PM

I listened to the oddigy tracks, the legati of the strings were FFTA-quality. They don't sound like the real thing. I hope it's the rip that causes this. I've listened to some released mp3-samples and they were better. There's a huge difference between Peace and War.mp3 and the rip of this track.

Good pizzicato's, harp, especially percussion. There is variation in the instruments. There are interesting motives but they don't have a real main theme. (like FFT) I'm afraid that all the songs I heard out there (before I listened to this OST) were the best songs of this OST. At least there's a huge arsenal of songs. Including an orchestrated Chocobo Theme, how innovative.

I didn't hear a live orchestrated part like the ending song of Vagrant Story, which was one of his brilliant works. Too bad. I'm sure it's out there somewhere.

Kaiten Mar 16, 2006 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by orion_mk3
Curse you people and your PSF2 readin' PCs. My Mac has been overlooked by the noise emulation crowd, and has no way to play the file.

I've been able to piece together what everyone is so excited about from context, but would anybody mind posting an MP3 version?

You could try this program. It supports more game formats than most standalone Windows programs!

THE POWER OF WATER Mar 16, 2006 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by www.sega.co.jp
You could try this program. It supports more game formats than most standalone Windows programs!

Audio Overload is very good, but it only supports PSF, not PSF2. :(

Kaiten Mar 16, 2006 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CHz
Audio Overload is very good, but it only supports PSF, not PSF2. :(

One can always hope. Well couldn't they just compile a program for the Mac the supports the PSF2 format?

THE POWER OF WATER Mar 16, 2006 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by www.sega.co.jp
One can always hope. Well couldn't they just compile a program for the Mac the supports the PSF2 format?

The only PSF2 player is Highly Experimental, right? HE isn't open source, so in order for us Mac users to get that, a developer would either have to ask the guy for the source and hope he hands it over or write a player from scratch based on the PSF specification.

The USF player 64th Note is open source, but as far as I know, no one's attempted to port it.

Basically, we run into the unfortunate problem of not enough people caring.

Syphex Mar 16, 2006 08:18 PM

It's a nice orchestration, but it doesn't sound very "full" for an orchestra (I especially think the string instruments sound a little weak) I guess there isn't much bass in there either. Otherwise, very nice to hear. =)

orion_mk3 Mar 16, 2006 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CHz
Basically, we run into the unfortunate problem of not enough people caring.

Very much so. Until recently, Audio Overload didn't even do PSF's, and its handling of them is still very much inferior to HE's. When it comes to real specific things like that, Macs are for masochists.

And would any of you PC users mind encoding the song in question to MP3, please? I'd really like to hear it.

Kaleb.G Mar 16, 2006 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by orion_mk3
And would any of you PC users mind encoding the song in question to MP3, please? I'd really like to hear it.

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Originally Posted by Prime Blue

Read more carefully.

Bobbin Threadba Mar 17, 2006 01:29 AM

well... well... well... Gilgamesh returning! One of my favourites... :D

Btw, thx oddigy 4 the rip. At least it kills a little of my curiousity waiting my copy of FFXII OST.

Btw, no. 015 kinda reminds me of PSOne's FFTactics and I think I heard this in one of the trailers. Still listening to the rest of the PSF... (except the prologue which I immediatedly recognise)

And it's kinda odd hearing Sakimoto's work on Final Fantasy series. Kinda misses Nobuo's work on this part.

Kaleb.G Mar 17, 2006 12:40 PM

Oh, damn, the whole rip has been up since yesterday. If Bobbin hadn't mentioned anything, I wouldn't have checked. Anyway, once again, I thank you for your work, Oddigy! :)

Andrew Evenstar Mar 17, 2006 01:36 PM

damn thanks for this, i like the gilgamesh!

katchum Mar 17, 2006 02:20 PM

With this OST, no memorable themes, highly orchestrated songs, do you think there will be a FFXII piano collection? (Knowing that Sakimoto didn't make any piano collection)

Spinal Tap Mar 17, 2006 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by katchum
With this OST, no memorable themes, highly orchestrated songs, do you think there will be a FFXII piano collection?

There's enough memorable themes:

070
100
029
088
032
030
059
045
020
036
079
091
037
064

And many more..
All of the music that sounds like it would be played in cities/dungeons/fields/etc has a very good melody.
The more dramatic cutscene music isnt as memorable because it relies more on atmosphere and harmony than melody,which makes it very moving and hard hitting,especially when heard in context with the accompanying scenes.
Also, what does being "highly orchestrated" have to do with anything?
No FF has ever had high orchestration,and they had a piano album,did they not?

JazzFlight Mar 17, 2006 02:53 PM

Has anyone found the Road of Hope song in the PSF2s from the Symphonic Poem orchestrated CD?

I'm hoping that it was originally a song in the game that got orchestrated on that CD.

katchum Mar 17, 2006 03:11 PM

Yeah, you're right, Arc the Lad was also highly orchestrated and they made an impressive piano album of it. But I bet this one isn't going to get a piano arrangement.

Spinal Tap Mar 17, 2006 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JazzFlight
Has anyone found the Road of Hope song in the PSF2s from the Symphonic Poem orchestrated CD?

I'm hoping that it was originally a song in the game that got orchestrated on that CD.

It's based on the main theme, which comes up in a lot of the tracks.
It plays the biggest part in the opening theme, but that one's not amongst the psf2s... (probably because it's used in an FMV... the 7+ minute long intro)
I think someone posted a link to 5 MP3s, of which the opening theme was one in the FFXII thread on the RPG board, so check that out.

jb1234 Mar 17, 2006 04:55 PM

I wonder which psf is the final boss theme (or if it's even in the set...).

030 is gorgeous.

And yeah, as pointed out, the opening FMV track is missing from the psfs. Who knows what other cutscene pieces are missing...

Lipid Mar 17, 2006 05:06 PM

Holy hell... A little fan service never hurt anyone, at least :D

JazzFlight Mar 17, 2006 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Spinal Tap
It's based on the main theme, which comes up in a lot of the tracks.
It plays the biggest part in the opening theme, but that one's not amongst the psf2s... (probably because it's used in an FMV... the 7+ minute long intro)
I think someone posted a link to 5 MP3s, of which the opening theme was one in the FFXII thread on the RPG board, so check that out.

Um, I know what the main theme song is, and Road of Hope sounds nothing like it. It's definately NOT the same song.

Nemes Mar 18, 2006 11:05 AM

Definitly not full orchestra, but I don't think it's fully synthesiszed, either. Let's hope there are still fully orchestrated songs in FFXII! Though, this Gilgamesh song is pretty kick ass, hehe.

Awesome find oddigy.

FPI Mar 18, 2006 03:07 PM

I'm actually listening to the whole set, and so far it's quite good, could have been much more worse. ;) I'm still missing Uematsu somewhat, but Sakimoto is doing a good job here, overall. I'm also very happy, that the "Prologue"-theme is finally returning to the FF-series!

Andy The Drew Mar 18, 2006 06:29 PM

Symphonic Poem hope shows up as the End credits song, but since the PSF2s lacked the streamed audio, we don't get to hear it in this collection.

Josh_1 Mar 19, 2006 01:19 AM

It is a shame that I can;t listen to the music.... too bad there isn't an mp3 version out :(.

Kaleb.G Mar 19, 2006 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh_1
It is a shame that I can;t listen to the music.... too bad there isn't an mp3 version out :(.

Too bad you can't read the thread.

Josh_1 Mar 20, 2006 08:59 PM

Sorry about that.... I feel very stupid.

NYRSkate Apr 1, 2006 09:31 PM

I've taken the liberty of converting the final battle theme to mp3, since in the set it's only three minutes long, and I needed a full version for my CD player. Considering this is the best you can do until the last day in May, I'd advise you pick it up ASAP:

http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...J1GHGCI82JHIGS

Nine minutes and thirty-six seconds of awesome.

Elorin Apr 2, 2006 04:31 AM

Wow, that's one very grandiose final battle theme. Thanks, Skate! The song takes a while to kick in but I'm beginning to think that it's supposed to fit in with a multi-tiered final battle sequence like what was done for Parasite Eve (and, I believe, Kingdom Hearts II). Either that or the first three minutes or so are part of some cut-scene prior to the final showdown. The part that sets in around 4:15 is terrific. I like how it's very triumphant and grand, and very much in line with the more medievil theme of FF12. While it's certainly signature Sakimoto, I couldn't help but think how the melody is also reminiscent of Christopher Franke.

Let's just hope we don't fight underwhelming floating eggs with tentacles this time. :( That would be extremely anticlimatic.

KyleDunamis Apr 4, 2006 12:11 PM

I downloaded the last boss videos. The last boss music starts at 3:11, everything before that is a FMV music.

blisteredhands Apr 9, 2006 02:25 PM

Did anyone happen to grab that YSI link of the boss battle that could send it my way? I have the psf2 set, but I'd like to hear that song. Thanks in advance.

Also, what I've heard of the psf2 set is pretty good. I typically like Sakimoto's work, but this seems above and beyond his usual. I went ahead and pre-ordered the LE soundtrack, but I'm impatient, so it's hard to wait until the end of May.

DarkRavenX Apr 9, 2006 05:55 PM

096 is the final boss theme in that set, but you HAVE to change the time to at least 9:38 (or set HE to loop indefinatly) to hear it all. In winamp just right click the song and click view file info, then on the right side, change the song length to 9:36, and you have the PSF version of what skate put up.

blisteredhands Apr 9, 2006 06:30 PM

Ah, ok, cool, thanks very much for the tip!

dragonhalls Apr 16, 2006 07:46 AM

there is a clip of battle with gilgamesh at youtube...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrlNjsv9jgs&search=ff12

**WARNING,may contain spoiler****

katchum Apr 27, 2006 07:13 AM

Wow, great ending theme that symphonic poem! But it isn't from Sakimoto's hand...

value tart Apr 27, 2006 11:08 AM

I like how the fact he's even in there is a spoiler. Shit, just because his theme is there doesn't mean he is. Shit... :(

Don't call me stupid

Citizen Meh Apr 28, 2006 05:47 PM

Good arrangement there by Sakimoto-it's definitely still the Gilgamesh theme we all know and love, but it's orchestration fits in well with the sound of the rest of the soundtrack. Nice.

Spinal Tap Apr 28, 2006 11:12 PM

The tracklisting for the OST has been released: (as usual, it could contain spoilers in regard to the final dungeon and stuff)

Spoiler:
Catalogue Number SVWC-7351~54
Publisher Aniplex
Composition Hitoshi Sakimoto, Hayato Matsuo, Masaharu Iwata, Nobuo Uematsu, Taro Hakase, Yuji Toriyama
Arrangement Hayato Matsuo, Kenichiro Fukui, Yuji Toriyama, Robin Smith
First Printing May 31, 2006
Price \3,800 Yen


Disc 1
01 Loop Demo
02 FINAL FANTASY ~FFXII Version~
03 Opening Movie (Theme of FINAL FANTASY XII)
04 Infiltration
05 Boss Battle
06 Auditory Hallucination
07 Secret Practice
08 Small Happiness (*)
09 Royal Capital Rabanastre / City Upper Ground
10 Penelo's Theme
11 Dream of Becoming a Sky Pirate
12 Little Villain
13 The Dalmasca Estersand
14 Level Up!
15 Naiveté
16 Coexistence (Imperial Version)
17 Symptoms of Change
18 Mission Start (*)
19 Rabanastre Downtown
20 Mission Failure (*)
21 Peaceful Determination
22 The Dalmasca Westersand
23 Clan Headquarters
24 Small Bargain (*)
25 Giza Plains
26 Separation with Penelo
27 The Garamscythe Waterway
28 Sign
29 Riot
30 Nalbina Fortress Town Area

Disc 2
01 The Princess' Vision
02 The Strike of a Blade
03 Victory Fanfare ~FFXII Version~
04 Abyss
05 Dark Clouds (Imperial Version)
06 Promise with Balthier
07 Game Over
08 Nalbina Fortress Underground Prison
09 Barbarians
10 Battle Drum
11 Theme of the Empire
12 Chocobo FFXII Arrange Ver.1 (*)
13 The Barheim Passage
14 Sorrow (Liberation Army Version)
15 Basch's Reminiscence
16 Coexistence (Liberation Army Version)
17 The Skycity of Bhujerba
18 Secret of Nethicite
19 Dark Night (Imperial Version)
20 Speechless Fight
21 The Dreadnought Leviathan Bridge
22 Challenging the Empire
23 State of Urgency
24 Agitation (Imperial Version)
25 The Tomb of Raithwall

Disc 3
01 Large Sandsea
02 Esper Battle
03 Sorrow (Imperial Version)
04 Seeking Power
05 Fight to the Death
06 Jahara, Land of the Garif
07 Ozmone Plain
08 The Golmore Jungle
09 Eruyt Village
10 You Really Are a Child...
11 Chocobo ~FFXII Version~
12 A Threat Drawing Near
13 Clash on the Big Bridge ~FFXII Version~
14 Abandoning Power
15 The Stilshrine of Miriam
16 Time of Rest
17 White Room
18 The Salikawood
19 The Phon Coast
20 Destiny
21 The Sochen Cave Palace
22 An Hour of Rest
23 Neighbourhood of Water
24 The Mosphoran Highwaste

Disc 4
01 The Cerobi Steppe
02 Esper
03 The Port City of Balfonheim
04 Nap
05 The Zertinan Caverns
06 Ground of Recollection
07 The Forgotten Capital
08 The Feywood
09 Ashe's Theme
10 Giruvegan Enigma
11 To the Place of Gods
12 Beginning of the End
13 To the Summit
14 The Sky Fortress Bahamut
15 Shaking Bahamut
16 Battle for Freedom
17 Final Battle
18 Ending Movie
19 Kiss Me Good-Bye -featured in FINAL FANTASY XII-
20 Symphonic Poem "Hope" ~FINAL FANTASY XII PV ver.~
21 Theme of FINAL FANTASY XII (Presentation Version) (*)




(*) are unreleased tracks (not present in the game).

katchum May 10, 2006 06:16 PM

Oh, my god... I think FFXII is going to be overshadowed by the great master Hamauzu in FFXIII! Musically speaking. I can't believe how fast those games are coming out. I haven't even played FFXII yet. Also can't believe Hamauzu is again composing for a final fantasy game. Wouldn't this give an extra boost to the console ps3?

NYRSkate May 10, 2006 07:12 PM

This is a Final Fantasy XII music discussion thread. If you want to discuss the alleged awesomeness of Final Fantasy XIII's soundtrack, even though it hasn't been released yet and you've heard all of one minute of one track that may or may not be part of the game, but it has violins, so shit, it must be awesome, then please go to this thread:

http://www.gamingforce.com/forums/ge...shimomura.html


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