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Peter Mar 2, 2006 04:21 PM

Fullmetal Alchemist: Manga edition
 
Well, a new chapter has been released by Evil Genius recently, and although the qualiy is only so-so, it's good enough for now (I'm buying the french releases anyway).

Chapter 56
Spoiler:
It looks like Wrath is having a firm grip on the Elrics and Mustangs team. Gluttony died, but it's not known if "Father" will revive him or not. the new Greed is pretty cool, and it looks like Ling's still trying to get the upper hand. This chapter also has some rather funny scenes, like Ed calling Winry, and the Fuhrer stabbing Al (I don't know why but I laughed). I'm looking forward to the congrontation between Scar and Marco.

Hao Mar 2, 2006 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enkidu
Well, a new chapter has been released by Evil Genius recently, and although the qualiy is only so-so

How do they compare to ZOMG Fruit Tree Alchemist 's release?

Spoiler:
Gluttony's dead, just like I thought. Curiously, Father seems intent on recreating him with his memories intact contrary to what happened to Greed/Ling. The lack of loyalty of the previous Greed is probably the reason his memories are missing. Father doesn't want to repeat that mistake again.
The whole Father vs. the Elrics thing has wrapped up surprisingly "peacefully", no great battle, no exposition on who/what Father really is... just a shower and a little chat with Wrath & Roy. And an Ishvarian is about to meet another alchemist veteran from the war.


Chapter 57 in about a week, looking forward to it...

Kaiten Mar 2, 2006 10:12 PM

I'm sort of curios where the Anime diverges from the Manga (I'm also curious as to where I can find the manga, but whatever). I found the ending to the anime, while decent, lacking in some ways. Plus I heard Pride and Wrath in the manga are totally different people!

Gechmir Mar 2, 2006 10:15 PM

The manga stops focusing so damn much on the philosopher's stone, moreso focusing on getting Al his body back. The anime goes a complete opposite direction after one point. The little boy Homunculus and the two women (sloth and the other gal who seems to be head bad guy) aren't even in the manga.

The manga is infinitely better than the anime. I fail to see why it gets so much acclaim. In the manga, Ed is much wiser, a better fighter, and the brotherly relationship is much more tolerable as opposed to always emo and crap.

B.K. Mar 3, 2006 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gechmir
The little boy Homunculus and the two women (sloth and the other gal who seems to be head bad guy) aren't even in the manga.

Lust was in it, but
Spoiler:
Mustang killed her in chapter 39.

Peter Mar 3, 2006 04:42 AM

The problem with the anime was that it, at least for me, went downhill after the introduction of Wrath (who is NOT in the manga), after that, some things didn't make anymore sense, the main villain was unbelievable and didn't get nearly enough screentime, and the last 6-7 episodes felt really rushed.

The manga is much slower, for example, we still haven't seen all of the homunculi, and they are different than the anime ones. The main villain is more believalbe since they introduced him earlier than in the anime, and there are characters like Ling who don't even appear in the anime. My advise is to follow the manga.

Gechmir Mar 3, 2006 09:03 AM

Spoiler:
Isn't the Fuhrer Wrath?

Peter Mar 3, 2006 09:46 AM

Gechmir:
Spoiler:
I was referring to Izumi's kid, who doesn't appear in the manga (thank god). I'm well aware that the Fuhrer is Wrath.

hikarub Mar 3, 2006 10:41 AM

In the anime, Wrath is.....
Spoiler:
.....the kid who is supposed to be Izumi's child.

In the manga, Wrath is.....
Spoiler:
.....the Fuhrer.


Yes, I agree that the manga is much better in terms of storyline and character development. It sure doesn't seem to show any signs of stopping, that's for sure! I can't wait for chapter 57 either.

On a side note, I didn't know Evil Genius was still doing FMA. I was pretty sure they said they were gonna stop doing it. I get my FMA fix from ZOMG FTA.



:cheers:

Acacia Mar 3, 2006 09:54 PM

Mmm, FMA manga~~

Have you guys seen the cover for volume 13? Awesome shit, man (it's a bit spoilerish though):

http://community.livejournal.com/hag...3.html?#cutid1

As for the current stuff (chapter 56 onwards):

Spoiler:
Greed!Ling is really awesome. I love how he's still there. Hopefully he doesn't die! I also want a Wrath vs. Greed re-match (especially since this new Greed will have Ultimate Shield + Ling's swordarts *heart*)

I wonder who the new Gluttony will be though. I can't imagine any of the current characters as a Homunculus, but, at the same time, I can't imagine Arakawa-sensei to use the whole 'let's-introduce-a-new-character-and-then-make-that-person-a-Homunculus!' idea again. =/

And it seems as though Roy's getting closer and closer to finding out who killed Hughes...

But I seriously can't wait for the Scar and Marco scene. Omigod I wonder what'll happen *__*;;

Gechmir Mar 3, 2006 11:13 PM

Spoiler:
They made mention that most homunculi were born that way, I thought o.o Ling being turned into one is an exception of sorts. Knowing how this is, they won't get the time to resurrect Lust & Gluttony I don't think. Ed & Al are gonna probably start kicking more ass and hinder the bad guys =o

hikarub Mar 4, 2006 12:38 AM

Actually, Bradley was "made" the same way. He explains how it happened while holding Roy in custody in his office.


:cheers:

UltimaIchijouji Mar 4, 2006 05:50 AM

Spoiler:
With the manga coming to a close likely sometime in the next two years, I agree that the Homunculi won't be reborn. Rebirthing Greed was quite the plot twist, and for integrity I doubt Arakawa would pull the same trick twice. Things are finally starting to boil down, with Al's body waiting at the gates and Ed and Al meeting Father. Now we just need to find out who Pride is and the curtains to the finale can begin to raise.

Peter Mar 4, 2006 06:10 AM

Spoiler:
Don't forget about Sloth, the big guy who's digging a hole under Central. We still don't know what's up with that. As for Homunculi ressurections, I doubt that we'll see more, although I'd personally love to see Lust back, but it'll just drag the story. Besides that, Greed's ressurection was kinda logical. Ling wanted to do everything to get his hands on the philosophers stone, so I figured that he'd accept Greed on his offer.

UltimaIchijouji Mar 4, 2006 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enkidu
Spoiler:
Don't forget about Sloth, the big guy who's digging a hole under Central. We still don't know what's up with that. As for Homunculi ressurections, I doubt that we'll see more, although I'd personally love to see Lust back, but it'll just drag the story. Besides that, Greed's ressurection was kinda logical. Ling wanted to do everything to get his hands on the philosophers stone, so I figured that he'd accept Greed on his offer.

Spoiler:
In one of the recent chapters, Father mentioned Sloth. I think I remember him talking about him being "punished," so maybe he's a bad child like Greed was. We should find out more about him soon though, as now we know Arakawa hasn't forgotten about him.


Perhaps this topic should be specifically for spoilers, since the manga is different, and you probably won't go through this thread unless you've read the manga.

Kaiten Mar 4, 2006 09:15 PM

Could someone tell me where the manga diverges from the anime so I don't have to recap? It helped me immensely when I started reading Naruto manga again.

Gechmir Mar 4, 2006 09:47 PM

Almost from the beginning. The anime hardly follows the manga even in the beginning. Originally, the first whole arc is just Ed & Al kicking ass. Not them acting emo about their mom (which happens in the anime).

Pick up the manga from the beginning and read it through. Don't try picking up in the middle somewhere.

somedude2387 Mar 4, 2006 09:56 PM

Does anyone know where online I can buy the manga from? I live in Australia and I only got into anime and manga recently so if anyone can tell me where I can find it I'd really appreciate it.

Btw I heard a story that after season 2 in the anime the writer for the anime changed and it went in a completely different path from the manga. Does anyone know how true this is?

UltimaIchijouji Mar 4, 2006 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somedude2387
Does anyone know where online I can buy the manga from? I live in Australia and I only got into anime and manga recently so if anyone can tell me where I can find it I'd really appreciate it.

Btw I heard a story that after season 2 in the anime the writer for the anime changed and it went in a completely different path from the manga. Does anyone know how true this is?

Read.

The post above you states that from the get-go the anime is pretty different from the manga. There are similar points, but for the most part they're two completely different universes.

Peter Mar 5, 2006 06:08 AM

Spoiler:
I must have missed that reference to Sloth. I really want to know just what he has to do beneath Central, but I guess that it'll be a while until we find out what the "Father"'s plans are.


I think we should keep the spoiler tags:
-Not everyone is following the scanlations, some prefer to buy the tanks so we'll still spoil them.
-People who watch the anime and get interested in the manga will be spoiled.

hikarub Mar 5, 2006 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somedude2387
Does anyone know where online I can buy the manga from? I live in Australia and I only got into anime and manga recently so if anyone can tell me where I can find it I'd really appreciate it.

Btw I heard a story that after season 2 in the anime the writer for the anime changed and it went in a completely different path from the manga. Does anyone know how true this is?


The manga is licensed by VIZ Media and can be ordered from their store online. Alternatively, you can ask any local bookshops to order them for you (you may need to pay a deposit). Just click the link:

Fullmetal Alchemist - VIZ Media

They have so far just 6 volumes out at the moment.


:cheers:

The Plane Is A Tiger Mar 10, 2006 04:47 PM

Chapter 71 was released by ZOMGFTA today, huzzah!
Spoiler:
We finally get to see how homonculi are created when there's no human subject, and it isn't pretty. Father giving "birth" to Gluttony through his chest is pretty weird, and brings even more questions about what exactly Father is.

Scar and Marco's meeting went about how I figured it would go, except I thought Marco would be a bit less desperate to die. He seemed fairly calm and collected the last time we saw him talking to Envy, but I guess it HAS been several weeks/months since then.

The thing that I'm most curious about is the array on Hawkeye's back. It's Roy's fire array in the middle with all the triangles and salamander, but with more stuff surrounding it. It kind of reminds me of the array Ed found in the Xerxes ruins that was an alchemy array but with more symbols added. Hawkeye has obviously had the tattoo for a long time since there are scars over the top of it, but what use would a non-alchemist have for it?

Hao Mar 10, 2006 05:46 PM

Excellent, a new chapter released & scanlated in less than 24 hours.

Arakawa does it again. A lot of stuff happening and another plottwist ending to have us agonising for another month. I think the entire FMA fanbase exploded after seeing that last page :D

Spoiler:
About that last page: WTF?!! A gigantic, scarred array tatoed on her back and she never told us? Why would a non-alchemist need it anyway? So many questions...
Great events :
-Finally the travellers from the East meet, shame Dr. Knox had to break it up.
-Gluttony is back, more or less. Father sure looks happy sitting on his throne.

hikarub Mar 10, 2006 08:49 PM

OMG, you guys mean chapter 75, right? Not 71.... :D

Yeah, I gotta download this as soon as I get home!!!


:beer:

The Plane Is A Tiger Mar 10, 2006 08:52 PM

Haha, actually I mean 57! When I typed that I must have confused it with Bleach, since I just finished watching ep. 71 of that during lunch today. ^^;

EDIT:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Enkidu
Spoiler:
I must have missed that reference to Sloth. I really want to know just what he has to do beneath Central, but I guess that it'll be a while until we find out what the "Father"'s plans are.

Just noticed this!
Spoiler:
I thought this was already pretty much cleared up by the earlier conversation between Marco and Envy. Father is conquering other countries and Sloth is digging the tunnel to create a gigantic alchemy array to use millions of people as Philosopher's Stone ingredients.

hikarub Mar 12, 2006 01:57 PM

Regarding chapter 57, or rather, the cover to the GanGan magazine on the first page in ZOMG Fruit Tree Alchemist's scans......

Who's that?:
.....the guy behind Ed looks like Havok, but his left arm has transmuted into a kind of clawed hand.....not unlike the way Greed's powers can coat his body parts with an "Ultimate shield".

Who is that supposed to be?


And also.......
Automail?:
......RanFan wants an automail arm and she wants it now! Will she really get one? And how will the rest of the characters (especially Ling/Greed) pass the time during the supposedly 6 month rehabilitation period she'll need to endure? Some history/rivalry/enmity between RanFan and Mei-chan, and a VEEERRRRRYY suspicious tattoo on Riza's back (looks like part of it covered by a few scars?), and eeewwwww!!!, is that Gluttony being reborn from "Father's" chest? Gross...........



:beer:

hikarub Apr 20, 2006 02:10 PM

Hey, hey!! Chapter 58 has been released, though it's mostly a conversation between Riza and Ed. A few funny moments here and there.

Spoiler:
A look in the past for the most part. Mustang's Alchemy teacher was actually Riza's father. Though he taught him much of the basics, there was apparently something very important that he didn't have time to teach him. Before he dies he tells Roy that when the time comes, his daughter will share the secret with him. (Methinks it's obviously to do with the tattoo on her back).

There's also a look back on the 7-year Ishbalan war. Scar is scolding his brother who trying to learn some of Xing's alchemy, despite it going against Ishvara's teachings. King Bradley begins the Ishbalan Cleansing campaign. A look at the Rockbells who decide to stay and help the wounded instead of escaping when it is rumored that a cleansing operation was soon to begin.


My favorite quote in this chapter:
Scar's brother: "Check it out, man! I got PORN!!"


:beer:

Acacia Apr 21, 2006 10:47 AM

Meh:

Spoiler:
I actually got spoiled from someone in the message boards, so this chapter wasn't much of a surprise to me =/

Still, it was really interesting to see a bit of Roy's past (and it looks like he wants power too, like his anime counterpart)

The conversation between Ed and Hawkeye was awesome. The funniest bit was when Ed spit tea/coffee at Hayate when Hawkeye asked if he loved Winry XD

I hope we get to see how Scar got that scar in the next chapter, as well as how he lost his arm, brother, and nation :o

Gechmir Apr 21, 2006 10:51 AM

God I love this manga. He covers so much ground and so well within each release. Berserk which has a release every two weeks, often longer, takes forever and a day to get somewhere. I am reading Berserk out of blind faithfulness by this point.

But FMA hasn't disappointed. I can't wait to see how 59 will develop.

Acacia Apr 23, 2006 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gechmir
God I love this manga. He covers so much ground and so well within each release. Berserk which has a release every two weeks, often longer, takes forever and a day to get somewhere. I am reading Berserk out of blind faithfulness by this point.

But FMA hasn't disappointed. I can't wait to see how 59 will develop.

You do know that Arakawa-sensei is a woman, right? >_>;;

Anyways, another thing I'm curious about is:

Spoiler:
Hoho-papa, and what exactly he's doing in the North. Prehaps his trying to thwart Father's plans or something...ack >_<;;

Oh, and I want the next chapter to mention the Xing group, although it looks like it's going to be a flashback chapter


Oh yeah:

Quote:

.....the guy behind Ed looks like Havok, but his left arm has transmuted into a kind of clawed hand.....not unlike the way Greed's powers can coat his body parts with an "Ultimate shield".

Who is that supposed to be?
^^;; It's not really a spoiler, since the character behind Ed on the cover is actually from Arakawa-sensei's other work, something called "Shanghai Demons" or something.

Hao May 15, 2006 04:16 PM

It's that time of the month again... Chapter 59 has been translated and released by some fruit tree alchemists.

Continuing from last month flashback, we now come to one of the darkest chapters of FMA's history, the Ishval Annihilation and its effects on our heroes in the military.

Highlights:
Spoiler:
- The creation of the philosopher's stone, witnessed by some "old friends".
- A young (moustache-less) Armstrong, breaking under the stress of mass murdering innocent people.
- Finally seeing Kimbley a lot more, not just a shadow or a glimpse
- HUGHES!!! Good to see him back again.
- Riza earning her last name.
- And Scar's brother has discovered something odd about Amestris' Alchemy

Hilarious and tragic at the same time:
Spoiler:
Roy: Hughes...I'll give you one word of advice.
It's a common pattern in movies and novels.
Guys who talk happily about their family or lovers on the battlefield have a high chance of dying! Stop it right there!

Apart from the story, it's great to see so many dead characters make a cameo in this chapter. Even the Silver Alchemist was shown and he only got 1 chapter iirc.

And now... another month of waiting for more answers/questions in chapter 60 (5th year-anniversary???)

Gechmir May 15, 2006 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acacia
You do know that Arakawa-sensei is a woman, right? >_>;;

... No. I didn't know ;__; I always just hear mangakas called by their last names. The last female mangaka I read works of was Rumiko Takahashi. This makes #2...

Spoiler:
Ah! Thanks for reminding me. Off to download it...



What Scar's brother discovers is probably what makes him tattoo his arm. Remember that Scar takes his brother's arm. I dunno if it is alchemy from any country they've shown yet.

Who's Kimbley again?

And why do I keep thinking I've heard of the Crimson Alchemist before... =( Been so long since I've read FMA through.

Hao May 15, 2006 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gechmir
Spoiler:

Who's Kimbley again? And why do I keep thinking I've heard of the Crimson Alchemist before... =( Been so long since I've read FMA through.

Spoiler:
Kimbley AKA the Crimson Alchemist was featured heavily in the anime adaptation, joining with Greed and later with (anime-only) Archer. His alchemy specialty is explosives using 2 arrays on his hands. Unlike the anime, he was only seen briefly in a few chapters of the manga and it still doesn't look like he'll play a bigger part.

Peter May 16, 2006 03:36 AM

Spoiler:
I think that he'll be the one to kill Scar's brother, like in the anime. After all, he was the only state alchemist present when Marcoh revealed the stone, so he'll most likely be the one to use it. Iirc, he survives the campaign, since I recall a shot of him in the prison during the confrontation with those number enemies (volume 4 or 5), although I could be confusing this with the manga.

Kimchi May 16, 2006 01:04 PM

Chapter 58

Spoiler:
Whoah... Creepy! Roy's sensai just died! And why is there human tranmutation symbol on the girl's back?

hikarub May 16, 2006 02:05 PM

Chapter 59:
Spoiler:
A look back on the campaign in Ishbal, and some familiar faces. Following up on chapter 58, Roy Mustang has been sent to Ishbal to participate in the annihilation of all Ishvarians. He meets up with Hughes and they discuss why they seem to think that there's something wrong with the way the campaign is being fought. Saved by a sniper from an assassin, Roy is shocked to learn that their saviour is actually his sensei's daughter, Riza, sent to the front despite only being a cadet.

We witness Armstrong's weakness and desperate ploy to save some Ishvarians, only to watch those he tried to save being killed by Kimbley.

Marcoh meets Knox (he's the doctor who's now looking after Mei and Ran Fan) outside. Knox asks him, "Why am I killing people when I'm a doctor?"


Despite being a flashback, this chapter was okay. The conversation between Roy and Riza is sad, in complete contrast to Roy's quip when Hughes keeps gushing about his girl back in Central. :D


:beer:

Casaubon Jun 12, 2006 12:06 AM

I just started reading the manga version like last month, and I really couldn't even believe how much better it is than the anime. Even the action is better which I hardly find when there is an anime version of something.
Chapter 60:
Nothing much happened, but it was still good. The first scene with Roy and Riza was excellent. I was pretty dissapointed there was nothing special about it's 5th aniversary, but whatever. Looks like it's gonna be wrapped up next chapter.

Dee Jun 12, 2006 02:29 AM

Sadly, the monthly releases have been so agonizingly slow for me to forget what chapter I've stopped on! But seeing this thread has revived a passion to read up on the newer chapters.. eventhough I know I'm forgotten much over the months of inactivity.

That new cover looks pretty cool. I wonder what it means?

Acacia Jun 14, 2006 11:03 PM

OMG CHAPTER 60 SPOILERS

Spoiler:

The flashback scene of Mustang and Hawkeye at the graveyard was incredible. I loved how you saw a tiny bit of Hawkeye's tatt on the 4th page.

Kimbly isn't the stupid bastard like his anime-counterpart, nor is Grand (or however you spell the Iron Blood Alchemist's name); they're realistic and not 'evil'. It looks like Kimbly either lost it during the end of the war or held his ambivalent attitude towards everything (he's so godamn cool!). I loved it when Grand shot the Brigadier General and Highes called it a 'stray bullet'. Grand isn't a monster in the manga either; he knows how to fight, but he wants the war to end just like everyone else (who's sane).

AND FUCKIN' BRADLEY. Geez, he's a bastard, but he's incredibly amazing. His God speech makes me believe that Father is definetly planning on bringing God down (or something..ack, it's not right to second-guess Arakawa-sensei!). And it's so fitting for Bradley to be Wrath. Man, that guy is vicious.

It looks like the next chapter is going to be the end of the flashback arc. Even though we already saw the fates of the characters (Hughes, Armstrong, Kimbly, Scar and his brother, the Silver Alchemist, Winry's parents), I know that there's going to be this huge, ridiculous twist! X0


Jesus Christ, I love Arakawa-sensei. TO DEATH.

Lukage Jun 15, 2006 01:40 AM

EDIT: Shit nevermind.

katchum Aug 29, 2006 12:57 PM

I didn't see the manga but I saw the entire series.

I have some questions:

Spoiler:


1) What happened to Gluttony and Lyra?

2) Why is it that the evil commander is still alive + robotic part after the forging of the philosopher stone. I thought he was dead among all the other people.

3) Is Dante a good person or a bad one? She is the teacher of Izumi but then I saw she was the leader of the creatures from hell.

4) I didn't really understand why Edward's father couldn't come back to the alchemist's world where Edward still could.

5) Why does Envy hate Edward's father so much?

6) What's the meaning of the green dragon in the last chapter?

7) Why didn't Edward get his hand and leg back at the end?

8) Which one is true? Getting a thing requires something (Edward), or the getting something doesn't require anything (father).

9) Why did Scar kill Nina-dog?

10) So it is true that when one dies, he can never be revived, unless his soul is still there and unless you use the stone. This is how Alphonse revived Edward. So why could Edward revive his brother again? This means Alphonse was never dead???

11) Those hellish creatures, are they just the people from the other world?
I don't understand why Edward keeps saying they don't have souls, if they don't have souls, then what do they have? They certainly have bodies and even memories from people from the alchemist's world.

12) I don't understand a thing from the triangle: Wrath - Edward - Izumi

Tell me where I'm wrong:
Izumi had a dead baby, tried to revive it and received an ugly baby? Is that ugly baby = wrath? Izumi gave her intestins and received wrath. Then she gave wrath back to the other world and then Edward tried to revive his mother and the ugly baby who has legs and arms stole Edwards leg and arm.
I don't understand what happened to the ugly baby. That ugly baby had arms and legs, how could it then steal another leg and another arm from Edward?

13) At the end of the series, Edward's father says something about, when you perform alchemist's things, you have to use energy from the other world in return, what does that mean?

14) Is there anything in the manga that says where the skeleton of Gluttony and Envy is and how did they come to this world?

15) What's with this baby being the portal and all? I even didn't remember when that baby was born...

16) Why was Lust suddenly pinned to the wall by the evil leader, and how??? She didn't have her skeleton.

17) Why did the evil general know that there was a skull in that case? And who hid it? He couldn't possibly put it there himself because he wouldn't be able to move. And if he knew that skull was in there, why did he give it to that kid? Absurd.
BTW, who is that skull from? The general? This can't be because it's the evil general who killed the good one. The evil general already existed when the good general was still alive. So who summoned the evil general and who is this skull from? Ok, I'm really, really confused now.

18) Did you find the ending sad? I did. By the way this is the best anime I've ever seen. So, do the brothers get back after all in the manga?

UltimaIchijouji Aug 29, 2006 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katchum
I didn't see the manga but I saw the entire series.

I have some questions:

Spoiler:


1) What happened to Gluttony and Lyra?

2) Why is it that the evil commander is still alive + robotic part after the forging of the philosopher stone. I thought he was dead among all the other people.

3) Is Dante a good person or a bad one? She is the teacher of Izumi but then I saw she was the leader of the creatures from hell.

4) I didn't really understand why Edward's father couldn't come back to the alchemist's world where Edward still could.

5) Why does Envy hate Edward's father so much?

6) What's the meaning of the green dragon in the last chapter?

7) Why didn't Edward get his hand and leg back at the end?

8) Which one is true? Getting a thing requires something (Edward), or the getting something doesn't require anything (father).

9) Why did Scar kill Nina-dog?

10) So it is true that when one dies, he can never be revived, unless his soul is still there and unless you use the stone. This is how Alphonse revived Edward. So why could Edward revive his brother again? This means Alphonse was never dead???

11) Those hellish creatures, are they just the people from the other world?
I don't understand why Edward keeps saying they don't have souls, if they don't have souls, then what do they have? They certainly have bodies and even memories from people from the alchemist's world.

12) I don't understand a thing from the triangle: Wrath - Edward - Izumi

Tell me where I'm wrong:
Izumi had a dead baby, tried to revive it and received an ugly baby? Is that ugly baby = wrath? Izumi gave her intestins and received wrath. Then she gave wrath back to the other world and then Edward tried to revive his mother and the ugly baby who has legs and arms stole Edwards leg and arm.
I don't understand what happened to the ugly baby. That ugly baby had arms and legs, how could it then steal another leg and another arm from Edward?

13) At the end of the series, Edward's father says something about, when you perform alchemist's things, you have to use energy from the other world in return, what does that mean?

14) Is there anything in the manga that says where the skeleton of Gluttony and Envy is and how did they come to this world?

15) What's with this baby being the portal and all? I even didn't remember when that baby was born...

16) Why was Lust suddenly pinned to the wall by the evil leader, and how??? She didn't have her skeleton.

17) Why did the evil general know that there was a skull in that case? And who hid it? He couldn't possibly put it there himself because he wouldn't be able to move. And if he knew that skull was in there, why did he give it to that kid? Absurd.
BTW, who is that skull from? The general? This can't be because it's the evil general who killed the good one. The evil general already existed when the good general was still alive. So who summoned the evil general and who is this skull from? Ok, I'm really, really confused now.

18) Did you find the ending sad? I did. By the way this is the best anime I've ever seen. So, do the brothers get back after all in the manga?

I'm not even going to bother with this. Its the manga thread, why are you posting anime related questions in it?

katchum Aug 29, 2006 01:41 PM

Oh sorry, I just searched for Full Metal Alchemist and only found this thread and I thought people who read the manga already watched the whole anime so they could be able to answer my questions.

Also I didn't find another thread for Full Metal Alchemist so I would have to open a new thread for my questions and that's not a thing moderators like. (I only found FMA the movie)

But it seems I don't have a choice, I'll open a new thread then...

hikarub Sep 16, 2006 09:01 AM

Well, chapter 63 has been released by ZOMGFTA, and it's a doozy!! (well, most chapters usually are...)

Spoiler:
Ed and Al are unable to find Mei so they decide to return to the hotel. They meet Mustang who offers them a ride. Ed asks him to look around for a black and white "cat" and to tell them if he sees it anywhere. Roy reminds Ed that he owes him money so Ed fishes in his purse for the change, then decides to keep it so that he can return it to Roy once he has become Fuhrer.

Old man Fuu (the old guy with Ran Fan who was protecting Ling) returns and slaps Ran Fan for losing both her arm and their young master. Not only that, but it is revealed that the old man is in reality Ran Fan's grandfather. Ed offers the services of Winry for creating a worthy automail replacement for Ran Fan, but old man Fuu refuses to accept their generosity, opting instead to find their own way instead of relying on others.

After they all leave Doctor Knox receives surprise visitors, his wife and son have returned to see him as they had some business nearby. When they hear him tell them that he treated 2 people and saved them they are very happy. His son reveals that he has been studying medicine to be a doctor, and despite Knox's angry reaction, maintains that he will continue his aim, and though he knows that what his father had done in Ishbal is unforgivable, knowing his father can still save people is proof that his father is not lost. Knox invites them in for coffee and seeing the mess around them, they decide to clean up the house while he is doing that. Reaching for some coffee mugs, Knox begins to cry.

Meanwhile, Little Mei is in the Northern district waiting for a transfer in trains. While overhearing some soldiers talk about Scar, she accidently bumps into an elderly lady. She apologizes and after a little small talk hurries to her next train. The elderly woman remarks about the strange black and white "cat" that is with her.

Kimberly is suddenly released from Prison and is met in a car by a soldier (Envy in disguise). He is told his new mission is the death of Scar and the return of Doctor Marcoh. Also, once he has captured Marcoh, Kimberly is to destroy the small town that Marcoh had once been hiding in (a promise once made by Lust if he was to do anything stupid). Kimberly regurgitates the philosopher's stone he had swallowed in Ishbal, but Envy hands him another stone stating that the one he already had might not be enough for the job.

Roy is standing by the grave of Maes Hughes. He sees another procession go by and is suddenly joined by an elderly lady, the same lady who bumped into Mei in the North. After a little polite chit chat, Mustang suddenly realizes that the elderly "lady" is in fact his old superior from the Northern District, Lieutenant General Grumman (the old fogey he played chess with before his transfer to Central)!!!! Upon hearing Roy's tale, Grumman admonishes him for not taking care of his subordinates but he himself has suddenly felt inspired to action. By chance, he sees the drawing of Mei's panda that Roy received from Ed....

Ed is busy in the Central Library, looking up on Rentanjutsu when he is suddenly surprised to see Major Armstrong staring at him from above the books shelves. Major Armstrong has brought him news from the Colonel, that the people Ed has been looking for have been sighted in the North. Ed makes preparations to go there but is stopped by the Major. Armstrong hands him a letter to give to "her". A woman in the farther reaches of the Northern territoy who "might" be able to help him: Major General Armstrong!!


WHO IS THIS PERSON?!


No, seriously, who is she?! Well, I guess we gotta wait for the next chapter to find out.......


:beer:

Acacia Sep 16, 2006 01:38 PM

Just read chapter 63 this morning and~~

Spoiler:
OMFG, I love this manga sooooOOOoooOOOOooo much.

And we get to see Armstrong's sister! That's really exciting! But, unlike Alex, it looks like the "Northern Cliff of Briggs" is much tougher!

We also get to see people from the north, the Drachmans! Wonder how they look like...

hikarub Oct 9, 2007 09:20 AM

No one's been commenting on the manga recently? (I know you're all reading it!!)

Chapter 75:
Spoiler:
Continuing the story of the homunculus in a jar and the servant boy he names "Van Hoenheim". Hoenheim has learned to read and write thanks to the homunculus' teachings and his master takes him on as an assistant instead of a mere slave, due to his sudden spurt in intellect. The King of Xerxes however is getting old and seeks immortality. He asks the homunculus to make him immortal, to which the homunculus agrees to carry out.

Some workers carry out some irrigation work around a small town, but at night burn the town to the ground and slaughter all the town folk. This goes on and a few years later, the "irrigation canal" is completed and is revealed to be a huge transmutation circle. The ritual is started but Hoenheim realises that something is wrong. People begin dying and only then does Hoenheim realise that the homunculus has started something totally different.

The next morning, Hoenheim awakes to find the jar broken and everyone in the city dead. He is approached by a man whom he mistakes as the king but is shocked to instead look at his own face. The homunculus has transmutated a "shell" for himself so he can be free of the jar. He took Hoenheim's features since his blood was first used to awaken him. He also rearranged Hoenheim's body and made him immortal, as thanks for all he has done, much to Hoenheim's horror and anguish...

Hoenheim awakes from his dream on a train with a person calling him repeatedly. It is Izumi and she marvels how she has managed again to accidently meet with Al and Ed's father. Hoenheim thanks her and Sig for looking after his children when he had abandoned them.

Izumi has an attack and spits blood. Hoenheim seems to understand and asks Sig to bring his car around, despite Izumi telling him she is alright. He then asks her if she saw the truth and what she sacrificed. When she reveals she tried to resurrect her dead child and as a result lost some internal organs along with the ability to ever have children again, Hoenheim seems to understand and symphasizes. He asks her if she was approached by the military. When she says she was but she refused, he helps her stand up before stabbing his hand through her abdomen. Sig witnesses this and punches Hoenheim away before quickly grabbing his wife. However, she marvels at how much better she feels and finds her breathing much easier. When Sig demands to see the wound Hoenheim made, Izumi sees that there isn't one. Hoenheim then explains that since her flesh was related to her "sin", he couldn't replace anything she had lost. However, he had managed to rearrange some parts to better improve her bloodflow.

When Izumi asks him "What on Earth are you?", Hoenheim responds "A monster......is what I'd normally say, but I'll tell you the truth.....





".....I'm the Philosopher's Stone."




Holy Shit!!!

Acacia Oct 9, 2007 01:01 PM

Oh wow, it's been a while, hasn't it?

Yeah, I've been diligently keeping up with the manga scanlations. I gotta say, Fullmetal Alchemist is just too fuckin' cool. All of the characters are so complex!

Spoiler:
I definitely am liking the fact that Roy and the others are setting up a counterattack of sorts. I am SO tired of the whole " 'good' guys doing nothing untill the last minute, and yet somehow, being able to defeat their opponents", you know? The method they're using is so sneaky too! General Armstrong is an utter baddass too; loved how she sliced Raven up, and then admits it to THE FUCKING RULER OF AMESTRIS. She played all her cards so well!

Hohenheim's backstory is really tragic too. I never imagined him to be from Xerxes! So that means that Ed and Al are half Xerxes, half Amestrian...

And he's the fucking Philosopher's Stone! Omg what?!?!

Arakawa-sensei, I know you can hear me, but I love you <3


I hear that this manga is going to end in a few years or something too! I can see how everything's building up to the final event, but I still have no idea how it'll turn out. I wonder if Ed will get his arm and leg back; personally, I don't think so, but....

The Plane Is A Tiger Oct 9, 2007 04:00 PM

Hwere have you been getting your translations? I'm 2-3 months behind since ZOMGFTA went on hiatus.

horseman85 Oct 9, 2007 05:57 PM

Hmmmmm . . . There's a countdown on their Projects page for FMA chapter 76. Seems like it'll be out in 2 days or so.

Gechmir Oct 9, 2007 06:11 PM

Tritoch --
This is the group I'm reading the works of. Someone posted the link on ZOMGFTA before the site went down (on the last chapter done, under comments). You can also get the scans off GotLurk.net.
About 75...:
Half Xerxes? I'm a bit out of touch since I've been reading this as-it-comes since chapter 45 or so. Amestrian is the main setting's location, right? Which is Xerxes?

gamersara Oct 9, 2007 10:37 PM

Xerxes is to the east of Amestrian

Gechmir Oct 10, 2007 12:00 AM

This does not help =p I thought the Chinese-ish joint was eastward.

gamersara Oct 10, 2007 12:11 AM

Xing is to the far east of Amestris across the Great Desert,
Xerxes is in the Desert area
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7...untries4ng.jpg

hikarub Oct 10, 2007 04:59 AM

I've been getting all my scans from StopTazmo but pretty much only just realised that they were done by TMI scans.

@Gechmir: Xerxes was the desert area that Ed and Armstrong travelled to, to meet up with old man Fuu and Sergeant Ross. The damaged mural of the transmutaion circle that Ed looks at can be seen in it's complete form in that scene where the King of Xerxes is standing in front of it.

;)

Acacia Oct 10, 2007 10:41 AM

I've been getting most if not all of my manga chapters from mangahelpers.com. They usually don't do the scanslating itself, but they provide download links (torrents, rapidshare, to even direct downloads). Really helpful; they're usually the first ones to post manga links after the actual group.

Gah, the chapter'll be out in two days? Then we might be scans by the end of the week! *0*

Acacia Oct 13, 2007 07:52 AM

Ok....

....Ok, so I like, just read chapter 76 right now (chapter can be downloaded from mangahelpers.com)

IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THIS CHAPTER YET, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DO NOT CLICK ON THE SPOILER LINK

Spoiler:
What the hell!?! Kimbly versus Ed was so intense! What the hell is going to happen to the Elrics? Especially since Al's soul is being pulled away! There was no sign of Kimbly, and the two chimeras from Central as stuck in the rubble, so no one can help Ed...!

Damnit, Ed CAN'T die! What the hell! He just CAN'T. But shit, he just got speared by a fallen plank, and injuries in the FMA world is actually realistic (remember Roy vs. Lust fight?). But-but-but~~

Oh geez, this is fucking crazy. And now we kinda know that Hoenheim taught the Xing alchemy, and Father gave his version of alchemy to Amestris...?


Gah, waiting a month for the next chapter to come out is going to be killer *_*

hikarub Jun 12, 2010 12:17 PM

Well, that's it. Fullmetal Alchemist has come to an end. The last chapter was released (over a hundred pages!!) and it was a great close to an awesome story. What are you waiting for? Go check it out!!

OneManga - Fullmetal Alchemist: Chapter 108 (End)

The above link is to the online manga site I usually read my manga from.

So what were your thoughts on the series as a whole? Did the ending satisfy you or were you hoping for something more?

Looking forward to the end of the animated series now. Hope it'll be just as awesome! :D

The Plane Is A Tiger Jun 12, 2010 03:11 PM

I read it last night, and I thought the end was pretty satisfying. There were a few things that bugged me, but nothing major.

Spoiler:
- Roy initially said he was going to let Grumman become Fuhrer since he'd gone blind and would have to leave the army. Somehow Grumman still became Fuhrer even after Mustang had healed his eyes, and Roy was only a Brigadier General. Not really a complaint, but it's something that I wish they had fleshed out a bit more.

- I'm still unclear on how Pride forced Roy to use human transmutation, or why Roy had to pay a price for it. I don't recall anything actually getting transmuted by the process either, so that was all a bit funky.

- I wish the culmination of Father's plan hadn't been to engulf God and harness its power. That's such a stereotypical villain plot. Dante's goal of just needing a new stone for self-preservation in the first anime series' ending was better. They could have just left it at that considering he probably did need a new stone for the same reason, but they just had to drag becoming a god into it.

- Ed leaving Winly behind to go learn in the west was strange considering he essentially proposed to her, and it showed that they later had a kid or two. Not sure why she didn't go with him.

That stuff aside, it was a pretty good ending. I need to catch up on watching Brotherhood since I've fallen about 5 episodes behind. I haven't watched since the two episodes of Roy and Hawkeye effortlessly decimating Envy aka the most one-sided fight ever. That's the best part of the manga anyway.

hikarub Jun 13, 2010 11:16 AM

@Tritoch
Spoiler:
1) I was surprised with that too, though as a Brigadier General working in the East, Roy would probably feel better with a hands-on approach to revising his country's policies towards Ishval, even with Miles and Scar spearheading the effort to rebuild their country. He probably felt it was more productive than sitting in an office in Central.

2) Man, that stumped me too. All I know is that Pride absorbed the knowledge of that gold-toothed alchemist so that he could force Roy into doing a transmutation. But then again near the end of the manga, Ed did the same thing on himself to go back to fetch Al...? Huh, I dunno....

3) Well, there was the transmutation of the kingdom of Xerxes which led to the homunuculus in the flask getting a body in the first place. I guess the next step was doing it bigger and better so why not go and absorb God too? If I remember correctly, they left out Father and the whole Xerxes thing in the first animated series, right?

4) A man's gotta go out alone (nah, jk!). I think it's because he just had to go. He proposed just before the train would leave so that didn't give them much time to decide anything I think. He obviously came back cos there was a photo of him and Winry with 2 kids. Behind them were Al and Mei.

Those pictures at the end were hilarious! I can't believe Yoki, Lion-san and Gorilla-san went and joined the circus! LOL!!

It was strange that Hohenheim passed away though, I thought. Did his stone just run out? He did offer to sacrfice himself to bring Al back so I assumed since he didn't use the stone for that he would still continue to live...


I just finished episode 59 of Brotherhood. Wondering if I should watch 60 now or wait to download the final 3 episodes before continuing.....

The Plane Is A Tiger Jun 13, 2010 01:06 PM

Do we know that Brotherhood is going to be 63 episodes, or are you just gauging by what's left in the story?

Spoiler:
They sort of left out Father in the first series. From what I remember the homonculus still referred to Father near the beginning, but called it something different once it started to diverge from the manga's plot. Their leader was Hohenheim's old wife using the philosopher's stone to live forever, so there was nothing about Xerxes from what I remember. Hell, I think the transmutation circle was only Central instead of nationwide.

hikarub Jun 14, 2010 05:48 AM

It's now confirmed through Random Curiosity that FMA Brotherhood is actually 64 episodes and not the 63 that was announced before (I think they said it would be around 63 episodes when the anime reached the 50th episode or so).

Random Curiosity


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