Ahhh WTF happened to gas prices?
 

I filled my car with gas a little more than a week ago. The gas price was under $2/gal. for regular. When I went to get gas at the end of last week the price per gallon had jumped 20 cents. Since then it has gone up 4 cents.

This makes me wonder where that hydrogen fuel cell is... So in the mean time, has anyone considered another solution to the rising gas prices; whether it is hybrid, smaller gasoline vehicle, diesel, etc? I personally wouldn't mind owning a VW TDI and have considered buying one.

A few months ago I heard something about modifying current gas engines to run on direct injected hydrogen. Has anyone else hear anything about this?

There's no real rhyme or reason as to why the gas prices fluctuate as they do. Just be thankful you don't have to pay the same as Europe.

This reminds me of some whacky website I got linked to earlier today.

Check it out: http://www.willyoujoinus.com/

Just imagine if gas ever got as expensive as milk! I always try to keep in mind that no matter how bad gas prices are, there is always some other practical item that costs more.

I haven't changed my driving habits or car. I drive a full sized SUV and fill up about every 5 days or so. Costs me about $40 per fill up. Have thought about getting a new economic car, but then it would be car payments on top of buying gas.

I'm lucky it's under $2.00. I can't even imagine what the prices would be in the next 20 years, >_<

Where the fuck do you live where it's "just under" $2.00.

Besides heaven, of course.

Well, it hit a floor of $2.05 around here and has been around there if not ten cents higher.

Merv -- there are some places that are still paying very little for gas. There's a joint in Canada. Can't remember the city x_X But some poster here mentioned when the gas prices boomed that his prices weren't even rattled.

It could be worse. Some people pay prices like that per litre.

A gallon of whole milk cost me 1.98 yesterday.

Merv: I live in Oregon and it had been at 1.95-2.02 a gallon 2-3 weeks ago.

Wah Wah Wah. People whine every time, yet we pay a quarter what the rest of the world pays.

What we NEED is to go back to gas rationing. Taxes won't work because rich people don't care. Limit people to 5 gallons of gas a week and FORCE them to start conserving and carpooling. People are too dumb to care about the future.

So just because the rest of the world has shitty prices, it is ok that we get stuck in the eye just that much more with the price of the gas?

What we need in a solution, not a jackass holding the country hostage with gas ration. Besides I can't get to and from work on 5 gallons a week, I currently use 10 gallons a week in my eco Civic DX and I only live 20 miles from my work. I know people who drive more than twice that to get to work.

Be happy you don't live in Montreal. Gas here is ridiculous. Likewise, I'm happy that I'm not in Europe because gas there is even more expensive than it is here.

You are about 3000 miles from where I am. So what makes your guys prices so much higher there?

In Vancouver, the gas prices change about 5 times each day, at every location, with very little pattern. Theres a segment on a radio channel that tells us where the gas is cheapest in the city.

Where the hell do you live where its under 2 dollars a gallon? Here its at a level 2.30-2.60 a gallon.

:/ I already answered that question... I currently is about 2.19 a gallon.

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See, shit like that would piss me off. Luckily it only changes once a day at most.

I think a lot of the price fluctuations between states has to do with taxes and laws regarding environmental standards. It's annoying that Maryland has higher prices than its neighbors (PA, NJ, NC, VA (outside of DC)).

Five gallons a week per family? Per family member? Every family travels differently. Five gallons a week would be a burden to people like my father. He communtes from B/CS to Hearne every day (30 mile drive) and has to keep an eye on an almost 10,000 acre farm partnership. How could he make do on such little gas? How about the people who live out of the urban regions in suburbs who have to commute to urban regions daily? How fair is it that they get so little gas and meanwhile, folks who go almost nowhere across a week get to stock up on gas? Rationing gas isn't the way to go.

One reason gas prices are so high is also due to mixes and regulations each state wants to meet. Get a few types of national fuels, eliminate state-to-state mixtures and prices would drop by $0.20 easy. That is a good chunk of the processing, in fact.

2.45 in LA. Right when i get out of LA, prices start to decrease into the 2.20's. I see a trend.

Heh heh! That hydrogen fuel cell died between the time you posted the original topic and the time it took for me to respond. I think the longest a hydrogen fuel cell has lived is roughly 48 hours.

I've heard that Toyota make's the best hybrids. With one of their newer bybrids able to get up to 60 miles a gallon. Usually a average of 40 mpg. Next time I get a vehicle I'll probably look into that.

Wow, where the hell do you live? Regular gas here is like 2.43 on a good day.

There was an article about the Oil Sands in Alberta. There's enough untapped oil there to last all of North America over 50 years. It's estimated that the oil reserves there are 2nd only to Saudi Arabia, and may even be more.

And yet, every day gas gets more expensive. Although, here in Nova Scotia it's $.94 a litre, which isn't TOO bad I guess.

I wish we had that. Here in New Zealand, it's roughly $1 US per LITRE.

And there's your answer. Producing oil from tar sands is not cheap or practical. Might be faesible in the future. Just not right now.

Except that I'm not so sure - and I think many would agree - that simply tapping into yet another natural reserve isn't necessarily the best or brightest solution to our oil dependency.

And I'm also not certain that Canada wishes to strip its natural habitats for such a venture.

Lastly, do you even have a source for this claim? I've never ever heard of Alberta's Oil Sands.

Oil Sands FAQ from the University of Alberta.

I have to wonder how you could have never heard of them, though, Crash. They've gotten more and more press as the price of oil has continued to rise.

I'll back up his claim. Outside of traditional sources such as; NY Times, Wall Street Journal that have all talked about it in some detail. 60 Minutes just ran a segment on it not too long ago.

Where I live in Oregon an Arco Station had prices as low as $1.85 as recently as one week ago (compare that to the adjacent shell station with prices at $2.03). Now they both read $2.05 and $2.21 respectively. The funniest thing is milk is cheaper than gas is. At Safway you can snatch up some 2% Dairy Glen Milk for $1.98, it used to be milk was much more (not counting the post-Katrina price hike).

It'd still be better to look into alternative energy rather than a short term fix. After that 50 years is up, then what?

Once I have money to get a new car, it'll definitely be either a hybrid or electric or whatever. My Honda Civic does fine, it's just that I travel at least 30 miles each day, so I have to get gas at least once a week. Not bad I guess, but still.

At least it's nice to see a major gas company look into alternative fuels. Seriously I know they're a company and need money, but if they can capitalize on a new energy source, then they'll have money beyond their wildest imagination.

God, you all should be grateful you don't live in California, $2.75ish around the San Francisco area. I drive a pretty gas efficient car (35MPG on average) so I don't have it as bad as some, but the prices still suck.

Yeah, don't worry, everybody has been feeling the same way in Japan for the past couple of years now. I've heard that everything is going downhill by 2040 0_0.

yea i heard that the oil industry dies in an estimated 40 years time =/ right now prices went up about 20% from last year in Australia

Over here in Malaysia the price jumped by 30 sen lol.

Oh, I agree that it's not an actual solution. I'm just saying that Alberta alone has enough oil to supply us for a long time, even without sources such as the Middle East.

Although, it does make you wonder. With the billions upon billions of dollars that oil companies are making, they can't be stupid enough to not be researching alternative energy sources. They of all people know more about how much is left and how long it'll last than anyone else.

Where I live milk is around $3.15, which is more expensive than the gas in the region. But of course, there isn't much dairy farming in North Carolina.

You just gotta check the news every once and a while so you can understand when it might go up and down. Though there predictions are more that 70% incorrect. The only true facts are the current prices. "laugh" ^_^:kitsune:

ps: Where I live, Wally milk's are $4.00 for the Great Value brand.

Transportation of the gas. We're just not very close to any supply.

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2.43 sounds great to me right about now. After doing the math, we're paying about $3.00 up here still.

You're right, gas prices are crazy expensive!! Two weeks ago it was just 2.00 here in Houston. It's now: $2.35-Reg, $2.45-Plus, and $2.55-Premium. I gotta pay like 40 to 50 bucks every week for a full tank.

We pay like, 60 cents per litre, which is around $2.16 per gallon. And this is México, so the prices should be considerably lower considering half of the population is in extreme poverty.

I'll put it simply, any time there's negative news about the Middle East (such as the attempted bombing of a Saudi refinery, the Dubai port takeover, and possible Iraq Civil War), gas prices climb. They do so because oil companies know that most people will accept the climb due to hostile conditions in the supposed world capital of oil output.

No, there's small price hikes because of those situations. Not because people will accept them. There's so little spare capcity right now. Any little negative effect on production will affect prices. So of course a attempted bombing of a Saudi refinery, (HOW MUCH DAMAGE?!) or news of a civil war in Iraq, (WHAT ABOUT PIPELINE DISRUPTIONS?) or the big one you missed; War with Iran. (OIL EMBARGO?!) could cause a small increase, it not a outright jump in oil prices.

Then there's the small one everybody seems to misses; Chavez threatens to stop shipping oil to the US and to close down Citgo refineries in America.

Try living somwhere outside America, in England at the moment we are paying around $5.5 a Gallon! One day you will too be subject to the extorsionate prices :P

Wow! Those gas prices in England are outrageous!! Gas prices just went up again this evening! Now it's $2.39 for regular. I'm gonna have to find other ways to move about. I think I need to carpool or something!

Oh, I am quite grateful because I was there three years ago, I don't even want to think about the prices out there now >.> I just think those of us in the US should consider ourselves lucky as far as gas prices go. We've got it pretty damn cheap compared to the rest of the world.

Honestly, the rising prices really aren't hurting me too much. I live three miles from work, three and a half from school, I can generally go a few weeks without stopping for gas.

You are lucky man!

Drive a more fuel efficient car, and you wont have to worry so much

They've gone up. Just this Wednesday, while I was waiting for my state inspection, I've watched as the price of gas gone up from 2.33 to 2.45, and that's unleaded.

WTF.

We dont need more oil from a new source. We need an alternative fuel/energy source. That way we can use what oil is left for our products and food.

I could care less about people getting to work in cars. We run out of oil and you're going to be having trouble getting ahold of some damn food. Being able to get to work will be pointless if you have no food to spend that money on.

Oh and gas is 2.50 here. It gets really expensive for me and my brother to fill our gas tanks sometimes. Most of the time I dont even drive. I'l just bike or walk to where I need to go now. It's even worse for my father though. He can go through a full tank very quickly because the base he works at is so far. It costs him a large amount of money to keep gas in his vehicle.

Ofcourse.. it's been alot worse before. Almost 3/4$. So this is kinna a break from that.. still alot though.

Gas saddly lost it's self esteem in a debilitating kareoke accident and had therefore no other option but to sell itself for more to regain a shred of dignity.

I for one am behind gas one hundred percent.

The oil supply is not the problem, it is our ability to refine the crude oil that is part of these increased gas prices. I live 20 miles from my work place, that I have to drive to and from at least 5 days a week and it is still less than 30 dollars a week in gas. So wtf is your brother driving?!?


www.sega.co.jp, what part of Oregon are you in? Yeah Arco has the lowest prices in gas but I would never put that shit in my car. I'd rather pay 10 more cents a gallon for something I know doesn't have water in it.

As much as Bush rattled on about not depending on oil and going to alternative energy sources, it's not gonna happen. They bounce around money in and out at those alternative energy source plants like a red rubber ball. Gas prices are gonna just keep going up for the rest of this administration at least and if we get somebody following him that's also involved with the oil industry, it will stay high.

If we're ever gonna get more alternative energy sources anytime soon, we need some people in the top ranks that are serious about it.


(If it wasn't for the fact that Bush made one visit, they wouldn't have any money at all. Day before his administration went oops we had accidently cut their money earlier give them some so Bush don't look stupid.)

I can't afford that type of optimism.

Gas is around $2.45 in my neck of the woods......but I drive a car that pulls down 15mpg on average. My other car does slightly better (20mpg), but it's sidelined with a bit of a mechanical malady. :aargh:

Gas Prices fluctuate anywhere from $2.80/g to $3.30 a gallon. For regular gas.

It jumped even worse in like October where there was a line at the Hess Station to get $3.39 gas. Gas prices are ridiculous but then again, I guess shit like this happens.

It's happening too often for my tastes. I was actually getting used to paying $2.09 at the local Cowboys. The only thing I can do now is get a smaller, fuel sipping car. It's either that, or walk.

Wow that is really fucking expensive... Even when most of the US had gas prices over 3.30 a gallon, Oregon regular gas never broken 3 dollars a gallon. :edgarrock:

Like where? And what radio station? News 1130?

Gas prices fluctuate pretty damn easily, sometimes in 15 minutes or less (hell, my Marketing teacher told me this 2 years ago too).

Like here in Vancouver, prime time means lower gas prices so it's all good. Even hit the $.80 low that much that it created over 2m of cars lining up before gas prices inflate again.

Right now we are paying 1.06 per litre, but it is going up again in a few days... damn I hate being on a island sometimes!

Island? Where do you live in Canada?

That surprised me too. Gas was fine down here, then all of a sudden it jumped about 20 cents in a day, all because of Spring Break D:

I really dont do that much driving, not as much as other people, and I'm lucky that I have a Nissan over, say..a truck, but it would really be nice if the prices could come down just a little x.x;

Has anyone heard as to why there was such a jump in the prices?

FYI for any Canadians out there who want to take part in the discussion...

To convert "Canadian dollars per litre" to "American dollars per gallon", just multiply the canadian price per litre by 3.26.

(Converting L to Gal is easy, but the exchange rate between CA$ and US$ is obviously always in flux. My multiplier assumes 1$CAD = $0.86USD)

Right now in Montreal, gas is $1.06/L. By my formula, that makes it equivalent to $3.45US per gallon.

Wow that really sucks. What is funny is that CAD is worth more than USD but most goods in Canada seem to be way more expensive than in the US...

No, one canadian dollar will only buy you eighty-six US cents. Generally goods aren't any more expensive.

Well gasoline sure as shit is more expensive there.

Yeah. Of course $1.06... that's in Montreal (the "island" you asked about). But it wouldn't be any more than about $0.15 cheaper anywhere else, I think.

Anywhere else in Canada you mean? Here in Oregon we never seen 3.00 dollars a gallon for gas.

No, the "island" Chibi Neko was referring to was Newfoundland.

Here in Nova Scotia, gas costs $2.67 a gallon right now, which isn't too bad.

It shouldn't be that expensive in Canada, but it is. Canada doesn't receieve oil from the United States, nor does it really follow the same imports. Yet we follow the same prices as the US, they're taking advantage of the fact that the US gas prices are going up and they're just following along. It's 0.87/L here, no idea what that is in gallons.

You're really, REALLY epecting that big a change in just 2-3 years? Because that would be rather ignorant, kinda like thinking Bush hasn't propelled the movement forward to make more money. That's bullshit. Science doesn't happen because you suddenly want it to. People have to do research. Sometimes it takes time. Get over it. It's not Bush's fault.

That was what I was paying a few months ago, when Katrina blew through and the shit really hit the fan.

I take it there aren't as many SUVs up there :p

Nope, but there will be idiots anywhere you go.

Shit, that is expensive... I guess I am lucky to never have had that kind of jump in price.

They are smaller overall with smaller engines. Not that much different than some of the subcompact cars you see here.

Yeah. And you actually don't feel intimidated when driving a smaller car there, because there are barely any SUV's on their roads, and far fewer transport trucks.

Most Americans are skittish on subcompacts, unless they have some sort of "fad" factor like the BMW-made Mini or the Golf GTi. With all of these SUVs and semis on the road nowadays, who can blame em?

Most Europeans have small cars because, most times, they suit the cityscape. Small village squares, narrow streets, little to no parking, half of the cost of fuel ate up in taxes and insurance costs -- having a small car is a plus in most cases. Here in the U.S.? Fat chance......most times, owning a small car is seen as proof-positive of a low-income status (which still doesn't explain why so many ghetto folks opt for Escalades in the fucking projects).

Personally, I can't wait to hop in a small car that'll save me some cash on fuel costs. Loading up a Town Car with 91 octane puts the fuckin hit on a wallet.

I don't know what you guys are talking about. I feel fine driving my little civic around. I just stay away from big rigs as Civic + Jackknife = death trap...

What it comes down to for a lot of families is that they can afford the gas so they don't care that they are only getting 15mpg highway when they feel safe in their big ass SUVs. America has some of the lowest gas prices in the world. Until our prices get like those of Europe I doubt people will be trading in their large safe vehicles for the little perceived "death traps" that are most imported cars.

You got people out there who think "Ford Pinto" whenever they see a subcompact.

Ford Pinto + Rear-end collision = OMGWTFBBQ!!

I think Geo Metros are worse... Worst car of the century.

With the Ford Festiva (not to be confused with the European Ford Fiesta) following closely.

I have a Toyota Corrolla and get pretty good gas mileage on it, but then again I havent really found myself going anywhere that isnt close by lately....

I filled up like 2 weeks ago and still have a good half a tank left. Considering prices here down south I'm making sure to have it last.

I was reading up a few posts in the begining of the thread, & I just wanted to add: where the hell do you guys live? Jesus god 2.00 a litre.... Man its 1.04 here in New Brunswick... my neighbour is a gas station & a fairly known one to (Irving)

Don't never move to Georgia. A gallon of milk here is more expensive than gas.

Regular gas is 2.02 per gallon
Premium gas is 2.65 per gallon
Mlik(Kroger) 3.99 / (PET) 4.39 / (COLBURG) 4.00+

2% milk here is 2 dollars a gallon. Whole milk (3.5%) is about 2.5 a gallon.

Premium gas is over 2.60 a gallon now. Regular is about 2.30 .