Plan on owning a PS3?
 

I've noticed there are very few PS3 threads here and even in the Official PS3 thread it seems like the same 5 people are the only ones posting.

So I thought I'd make this poll to see where people stand on the PS3 issue. Do you already own one, do you plan to own one soon, or do you have no intention of buying one.

There are plenty of very good looking games coming out in the next few months and through the end of the year so perhaps most of you are just waiting to jump on the bandwagon 'till then. But that is what I'd like to know. I'd like to see more discussion about actual PS3 games rather that just the console in the only active PS3 thread we currently have.

Whenever Silent Hill 5 comes out, that is when I am purchasing a PS3.

I'm definitely getting one, just that the price and current library of games (and the poor BC image quality, this is a major thing for me) really aren't all that appealing to me. I've heard nothing but horror stories about how PS2 games look on the PS3, with some notables like Okami hurting real bad.

I'd like one, for new games as well as to upgrade from my current PS2 that's having trouble reading certain DVDs and games. Of course, that puts me on the spot if it turns out HD DVD wins in the format war.

I've also heard bad things about the backwards compatibility not using any kind of filtering, so everything comes out looking jaggy. This was the link someone at cheapassgamer referred me to, but there's no real way to know if it's a true representation. Based on some screenshots I've seen, though, things aren't looking good, at least for the PS2 gen games.

If some of you are considering one right now, gamestop is running a promo to trade in your PS2 with a controller and memory card to get $100 off the PS3. You can use a coupon they have running right now as well as an edge card to get an extra $20 in trade-in value. I considered it, but I'll probably wuss out until I see a price drop.

I'm not even sure anymore. It costs a lot, and the number of announced exclusives isn't that great. I'm not going to buy into any console without a few decent exclusives, and there just haven't been enough confirmed yet.

Backwards compatibility is nice, since I have a good collection of PS2 and PS1 games. On the other hand, I see that it won't be region-free, and I have games from all three regions in my collection. I doubt my Swap Magic will work, and as for HDLoader... not likely.

I was intrigued by the homebrew capabilities inherent in the PS3, because it can have various OS including several distributions of Linux instaled, but then I found out that access to the GPU is crippled in Linux mode, so no chance of a decent HDTV media player.

I'm also still pissed that there won't be a rumble feature in the controllers. I know that isn't Sony's fault, but I can't be happy about it. That's another kick in the teeth for backwards compatibility. I'm not exactly ecstatic about the motion tracking capabilities. Not like it's a bad thing, but... meh. We have the Wii for that, ya know. I'm also not a fan of wireless controllers in general. At least they can be used with a wired connnection...

Whenever the PS3 doesn't cost the equivalent of a month's paycheck, that's when I'll get one. I'm sure there will be enough Final Fantasy and other games that come out taht at some point I'll get the PS3, but $600 is just FAR too much for a game console. SEriously.

Some of my favourite series of video games are having their sequel(s) released on the PS3 (and if they aren't as of now, I'm sure they will eventually). But, the price. It's ridiculous. When they drop the price, I'll buy it; I just don't want to give them the $1000AUD satisfaction.

I plan on waiting until some decent RPGs are available. I've learned my lesson with the PS2: there isn't a point in owning a console until it has some games which are of interest to you.

I was just watching that vid, and I must say its disappointing to see that. However, someone commented in the video saying the firmware update took that jagged edge thing away, so now they look normal. That's good then :).



As for me...I would love a ps3. I love the fact my PSP will connect with it, and some of the games I played on my ps2 will be on the ps3 most likely [Ace Combat :D!] I guess like everyone else...the price is really killing me. On the other hand though, the ps3 is able to play Blu Ray, and looking at some Blu Ray players...they're 999.99, so in that perspective, you're getting a better deal with the ps3. For me, I think there are more positives than negatives with the ps3, the only negatives for me is as I said the price, and the game library right now. I'm sure when Christmas '07 hits...it will have much better games.

Ill start saving for one when I find MGS4's release date, by that time I should be well finacially off than I am now.

I'll be buying one once the price drops and the library of games interest me enough. FFXIII maybe?

Yeah, when the library grows and some of the exclusives start hitting, I expect more people to be singing a different tune than they are right now. It might also help if Sony keeps improving the system via updates, like how they just fixed the whole Backwards Compatibility issue ([cough]and if they added an adapter for guitar hero[/cough]). Who knows, though :/.

I purposefully left my PS3 at home so it didn't distract me at school. And so I didn't get drunk and throw a beer at it. I am thoroughly addicted to online Resistance right now.

Solely for FF XIII in all it's incarnations, and nothing else. I can't even think of a single title that would be released on the PS3 that I was actually hyped or knowledgeable of. I saw a movie for the city of "Metronome" long time ago or something but I think someone said that was a hoax and not really a PS3 game. When the price drops below $300 or something, then is the only time I'll even consider. That or when and if PS2 section is phased out by the PS3 collection of games.

Looks like you're exactly right. IGN reported on it, and has a video available for people to see the differences between original PS2, 1.1 firmware PS3, and 1.5 firmware PS3.

Encouraging, to say the least, but still distressing that it went to store shelves the way it was. It could just be a matter of people who were working on the problem in the meantime, but it certainly didn't help their corporate image, either.

I know I'll have one eventually, but hell, at the moment I don't even see a PS3 section in my local EBs, certainly not in any rush to spend money on something that won't see much use (yet... and that's probably a big yet).

The release date of FFXIII is probably the biggest determining factor on when I get one. It will of course, be handy as a blu-ray player at some point as well (another thing that at this point, seems completely unecessary).

One reason why I do kinda want one now is because of the controller... so similar, but the sticks seem to move a little nicer, and of course, they're wireless. I realize I could get any number of 3rd party wireless PS2 controllers but most of them are a little strange, while the PS3's just has that natural feel from the ones I've held in stores.

Like others have mentioned, I'll get a PS3 when Final Fantasy XIII is released, even if, theoretically, no price drop has ocurred by that time. I just hope Sony keeps those 20GB models in production.:forscience:

I think 600$ is an okay price for a console that powerful, and a lot of the people that complain about its being too expensive would spend twice that amount to ''upgrade'' a PC without batting an eye. I think I might get one when a reliable method of playing pirated games off the hard drive is developed. If I lived in the US, maybe I would consider actually buying the games, but the markup here is so ridiculous that it's like throwing money away.

I plan on owning a PS3 eventually, that is if Sony does not go bankrupt first. Its just that, as most people have stated, there are few reasons why I could EVER find a reason to spend $600 on a game console.

Maybe I will get one after a few price drops but 600 is way too much. Also, there really are no games that interest me right now, and it seems like all the exclusives are moving to the 360 except for a few.

I figure I will get a Wii in March and then wait a year to see which of the 360 or the PS3 comes out with more games that I like.

There are other games I might be interested in, but won't care to find out until the system is $300 or less... ;)

:cow:

Yeah, while I already own a X360 I'll be buying a Wii way sooner than I'd ever want the PS3. Not at all interested in Blu-Ray as a medium and I can't think of a single game out now that I would want for it, but the Wii has more than a few I plan on purchasing and the console is not overpriced...

Overall, the only PS3 game I'd like to play I am aware of, FFXIII, is one I can wait quite awhile since I still haven't played either FFXI or FFXII. Probably will never play the online game, but am planning on playing XII soon enough. Until then, the PS3 can wait.

Between the cripled price point, the Cripled EU release and generaly Cripled attatude of Sony.

Nah.

Edit: And don't let the theme fool you, I have a ps2 sitting under my tv too.

Looking at the poll #'s I don't see that as a good sign for Sony. I guess they can only win console launches when they launch against Sega consoles. :tombstone:

I bought a Wii, and I have a PS2 also. They are still releasing big PS2 titles (FFXII, Rogue Galaxy) so there is no need for me to upgrade there. I will be spending $ in '07 on major Wii games (Metriod, Mario, etc.) and also doing a PC upgrade. When I finish my PC upgrade I will be able to play PC games with much better graphics than the PS3 can provide, so I will have no need for an Xbox 360 or PS3 for graphics. The Wii will provide fun console-type games while the PC will provide shooters etc. That should keep me busy throughout '07 & '08. Maybe I would think of a PS3 in '09, if it was about $200...

Umm I wouldn't say that 75% of people saying they already own a PS3 or plan to buy one eventually is a bad sign for Sony. Not that these poll figures mean much, but anyway.

The only game that honestly appeals to me on PlayStation 3 at the moment is Motorstorm, and sorry, but no console is worth nine hundred and ninety nine AU dollars (Panasonic 3D0 launched at the same price and that certainly went well), and no game is worth $120! I wouldn't even pay that for KLAX. A NEW VERSION OF KLAX, DRIPPING IN AWESOME CELL RENDERED KLAX WAVES. Oh wai-

I'll get one in a few years when the system and games drop to a sensible price. Maybe by then there'll be a Gregory Horror Show 2, at least seventy D3 games and a SOS The REALLY Final Escape (this one will be about trying to escape an episode of King of Queens while riding an exercise bike "GAME OVER")!

Speculative: No PC technology exists on the market that can rival the Cell Processor or the dual Nvidia 6800Ultra GPU (RSX), so it doesn't matter what you upgrade to, there's no way it'll be able to play games that look as good or better then the PS3. And only Super Computers have equal or more processing power then the PS3. http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,12...s/article.html

I'm not trying to shoot you down, that's just the way it is. Heck, a PC can do more things then any console can, so if you need a new PC, you need a new PC.

At the current moment in time I don't have any intention of owning a PS3 as there are some quality games out for PS2 that I have yet to play, and I don't want to ditch the PS2 just yet. My PC is my main gaming station though, and I can see it staying that way for some time. I have gone away from console gaming and more into PC based games.

If some game comes out for the PS3 that demands that I buy it, then I may do so, but until that time arrives I am happy with my PC and my PS2. Besides the PS3 won't be here until March, and it'll probably cost £1000, and that's a lot more money than I am willing to pay out for something at one time.

I'll be getting one in like 3 years time. No way I'll pay AUD$999 for one, although I can afford one.

::currently waiting for Team ICO's next game::

When the first NASCAR game and MGS 4 and GT5 come out, I will purchase a PS3. No sooner than that. I can't afford the system right now anyway.

At the moment I have no interest in the console. There's a slim chance I'll get one in the future if the following things happen:

- Region-free modchip so all PS2 games work with the console, which I require considering I have J, US and PAL versions of PS2 games.

- Price drop. It's gonna be released here for $1200 NZD, and well, I'm not paying over $700 for one.

- Variety of games. The variety of the PS2 library is huge, and if there's some console must-haves like Zone of the Enders 3 released (this is if Hideo cares about anything other than MGS4) I might be interested.

Needless to say I won't be buying one in the next year.

I'll get one when there's games I genuinely want to play, and I can afford it. So, not for a long time realistically. They might as well name it the Konami-Box as far as it concerns me, because the only games I'd really care for are MGS4 and anything Silent Hill related.

I voted for owning one down the line...Once the library has diversified with at least 10 or so killer games I want (hell, once I can NAME a game I want on it) and once the price for the "good" unit drops to around $300. Also, once I feel the need to "upgrade"...Which I don't see happening soon, since PS2 has plenty of upcoming games and a massive backlog as is and both Wii and 360 offer more compelling content ATM anyway.

I really do wonder if the day when it will be worth my time to buy a PS3 will ever come. The PS2 launch was a joke as it was, but Sony's really digging themselves a hole now.

Not until they release DDR for the system.

i saw a ps3 on our local craigslist for $400 BNIB...

:eeps:

When FFXIII ready I'll buy it

I'd like to own one, I just don't imagine myself buying one. Maybe later in it's cycle I will.

The day I consider buying a PS3 would be when my PS2 is faulty. I still play a lot of my old PlayStation games (and my other Nintendo consoles), to date I've only played a handful of PS2 games. I imagine I will buy it to play some older titles. Here's hoping my PS2 will last me for years to come...

I probably will sometime next year when I make decent money.
Unless MGS 4 comes out on XB360...

I'll be buying one, but I'll probably buy an XBox 360 [Dead Rising, Blue Dragon, Trusty Bell] first, and wait for a minor price drop on the PlayStation 3, which seems like it's going to happen soon, with some of the things Sony has been saying about making things cheaper.

I sure as hell won't be buying it for Final Fantasy XIII, though. My rule is, I don't buy anything that has Tetsuya Nomura involved (unless it's a new Parasite Eve, and he hasn't given Aya Brea a thousand damned belts, and a bathing suit as an outfit). I'll be buying it for the next Suikoden, White Knight Story, Shin Megami Tensei IV, Team Ico's latest project, and I'm hoping, Monster Rancher 6 (assuming it doesn't wind up being trash like 4 and EVO).

Well since Sony is planning to castrate ps3 in Europe (no ps2 compt.,etc etc..), i'm having serious doubt even getting one EVER. But the only thing what's stopping me is MGS4, if it's released on xbox360 i'm getting that one...i HATE SONY , really they can go to hell...

Fixed.

I'm along the same boat here. I would get a 360 first, then the PS3 much later after that. At least with the PS2 and lack of PS3 for now, I still have some inclination to play the old PS1 RPGs that beckon me (Xenosaga and Star Ocean 2 for example).

I have a cousin that bought one, so i'll just jack his when MGS4 comes out :)

As everyone else has said though, there aren't enough sufficient launch titles to consider buying one.

Masamune: You might want to find out what's actually happening before you pretend to know what you're talking about. Sony isn't removing anything, the fact is that PAL games have different coding then NTSC games, therefore the BC has to be reprogrammed from scratch. And it's going to be BC with PS2 & 1 games, it's just going to take a couple of months to get it to 96%, same thing happened here. Only games that don't work are low budget "John Doe's Tournament Lawn Bowling" that no one cares about and two people own anyway. At least it's nothing major like copies of FF Tactics not working on the original PS2.

As for launch of the PS3, technically it's Sony's best launch yet by FAR. Sales are almost double that of when the PS2 launched, and the games for the PS3 are 500X better then the PS2 launch titles. With the NA launch really just a soft launch and the Euro launch the true launch the real beginning of the system, things are looking a lot brighter for the PS3 then they looked for the PS2 when it launched, and look where it went.

Funny, I was thinking the exact opposite...I thought the PS3 launch games made the awful PS2 launch look brilliant by comparison. And I don't really see how the European launch can be considered the "true" launch, considering the system was originally just delayed there.

Eh, I think PS2 launch was still much better...You had a $300 system with a viable purpose (DVD player) compared to a $600 system with a purpose that a small minority cares about (Blu Ray, which may turn out to be the next big nothing). That, plus the jump in visuals from PS1 to PS2 was dramatic. PS2 to PS3 has been...Um, not so much thus far.

Lastly, sales may be higher, but also factor in the number of people who bought them solely for ebay scalping. Also, there's the fact that the system can actually be found nowadays on the shelves...Wasn't the case with PS2 for a long time.

Considering that all the games have been pushed back until the Euro launch, the NA launch was only a soft launch really.

March:
F1
MotorStorm
Oblivion
FEAR
Armoured Core
RS: Vegas
Godfather
Virtua Tennis 3
Enchanted Arms
Splinter Cell

What has been released since NA launch?? VF5, while it's a great game, so are a lot of the mentioned which were all held off till Euro launch, others were simply pushed back to launch when the system goes world-wide.

As for Blu-Ray the player is a bonus. As the PS2 was with DVD, the PS3 has BR because games are getting large to the point where it is needed for GAMES. LAIR is 20GB, Unreal Tournament 2007 30GB, and Blue Dragon for the 360 is 3 DVDs and we're barely past the first baby steps of next gen.

As for the graphic differental the leap will become smaller from one gen to the next. Doesn't matter what system you're talking about.

As for your point about people buying them to sell them on E-bay at launch. How is that a bad thing? That means that there's poeple on the other end willing to pay 200% or more for the console so I don't know how you think that that's bad for Sony in some way.

Eh...Most of the games here are non-exclusive and a good number are already out for 360 anyway. It'd be hard to make a case for any of them as justifying a PS3 purchase. So it's more like March is when PS3 takes a step closer to matching 360's library.

I've heard a bigger concern is getting the data to stream off the disc and it's slower to do this with a blue laser. Depends which developer you ask, I guess. Still, swapping discs can't be that big of an issue...

Regardless, you're not really gaining as much as people were with the PS2's DVD player. Blu Ray is just too new to be considered the next "must have" format, whereas it was obvious DVD was on the verge of taking off at PS2's launch...

No, but going from a generation where the difference is painstakingly obvious (PS1 3D graphics) to this next jump should make people wonder what exactly the big deal is. I'm personally more than content graphically with the PS2/XBOX/GC gen's output and am far less willing to pay for prettier graphics than I was last gen.

I said it's bad because you can find the system on the shelves nowadays, whereas you simply couldn't walk into a store and buy a PS2 for months. That's a sign that interest in the system is dwindling and Sony needs to make a better effort in getting people interested. Meanwhile, the ebay market for the systems dropped dramatically in the span of less than a month and even before Christmas...Systems going for $2000 or so at preorder started going for their actual retail price or slightly higher.

Well if they didn't also come out for the PS3 then they would be exclusive to the 360. It is required to take away your opposition's weapons as well as make your own. Therefore making games not on 360 ONLY is almost as inportant as making games that are PS3 only, decreasing the 360's exclusivity.

As for getting the information off discs, has there been any problems yet? Also unlike the 360, all PS3s have and HDD and developers and develop knowing that and can use the HDD to decrease loading times. Check IGN's preview of Oblivion for the PS3, 30 second load times has been decreased to roughly 6 seconds onthe PS3 version, so I don't think data access is an issue.

If graphical leaps arn't a big deal to you then why are you so concerned? If there's PS2/XBOX/GC games you want to play then play them. Just know that new games will be on next gen systems which is why I bought a 360 and a PS3. Lord knows that I still play my PS2 more then anything else still.

It's bad because there's systems on shelves, or because sales are low? I'm not saying that the sales are doing all that hot howecer they're still higher then the PS2 was at this time after launch. And the reason why there were fewer PS2s at this time was because Sony was only producing 450,000 a month where the PS3 is 1,000,000 for NA alone.

That's more or less my concern...I don't know if PS3 will ever get to the point of being the no-brainer purchase the PS2 is right now. Everything just looks overpriced (games and system) and underwhelming at the moment and it's becoming far less likely Sony will be able to generate the same type of library and overall value the PS2 had. I plan on buying one once I see games I'm interested in and they drop the price to something remotely respectable, but even now, both Nintendo and Microsoft are making much stronger cases for themselves, in terms of price, innovation and content.

I hope they end up doing well, but I do think they're blundering this entire launch period and losing a lot of steam.

Well the 360 is a force in NA and Euro, however Sony has Japan and UK locked down already with 2:1 PS3 to 360 in Japan. And the Wii really isn't in direct competition with the other two because it has an experiance that can't be copied by the other two nor can it copy Sony or MS so in other words the Wii's not really going to take away from the other two.

As to which of the PS3 or 360 wins is none of my concern. They're both going to have great exclusive games hands down, and to pick one is just limiting your experiance. However I'm also not going to call you a fool if you choose to wait in order to keep you from going bankrupt, because preices WILL come down.

What is my real concern, if you look over the last 2 gens, when the market was one sided. Sure it was easy to buy a PS system and you were set, however that was at the same time the factor that decreased advancement in the industry, without competition there was no reason to move ahead. I'm more interested in game mechanics then physical innovation like the Wii. And with the Sony lockdown on the industry developers have been able to lie back and make the same thing over and over and people were forced to like it or play nothing at all. My hopes with the 360 actually a competator for Sony, the two companies will force the lazy ass developers to wake the hell up and make games that are different and actually USE the power of these systems. Not so much in the way of graphics, more like how Blinx was for the Xbox in it's early days, it showed what an HDD in a system can do. Since the PS2 got a stranglehold on the industry after that point developers have just stopped trying to make things NEW. Which is my real problem.

In the end while we may not have a jump like we did from SNES to PS1, if the heated competition of 360 VS PS3 keeps steam it will be in the gamer's interest. No more of this one system to rule all BS, that's the worst thing that could happen. No matter who the one is. If the competition can keep up until the PS3 and the 720 come out then we might get our first technological leap after over a decade of market dominence on Sony's part.

See, I agree with most of this...Which is why I'm disappointed the content thus far hasn't been more compelling for PS3, in order to justify the price tag. Mind you, I'm not in love with the 360's library just yet, but their strategy is making far more sense to me and I really do appreciate the effort they're going to in order to correct their (many) mistakes from last gen (including a strong offering of exclusive JRPG's, something completely off limits from the original Xbox). It's refreshing compared to Sony's arrogant stances on everything. Sony better have a decent answer for Halo 3 if it comes out this year or else this "war" may end prematurely.

I think Wii will end up being more of an actual competitor than you say though...In many ways, it already has because people will still have a limited amount of money to throw at their gaming set-up. Buying a Wii game may still take away from a PS3 game you're planning to buy and the time spent playing it can also possibly compete with time spent with other consoles. Also consider: It launched nose-to-nose with PS3 with a decided killer app, cheaper price and pack-in game and did exceptionally well for itself in endearing itself to the media and many skeptics. I'm looking forward to testing the limits of the new control scheme in new games than going through prettied up rehashes and sequels I've seen thus far on PS3.

To expect a killer app at launch is highly unrealistic. And in my opinion Resistance is the best launch title ever to me, because while I'm an RPG fan, Zelda is too easy and I don't have fun playing it. The only reason why the Wii sold well is due to Zelda, which doesn't even show off the Wii's controls all that well.

More to point though, the Wii is not going to cut into PS3 and 360 sales because if someone is looking to get the same features and whatnot one a Wii as you would on a 360 or a PS3 will be highly disapointed and visa-versa. The Wii will do well, but you will find that the success will depend on thoes who arn't already into gaming then thoes who are which will be the key to their success, however not really affecting Sony or MS directly all that much.

Also Halo 3 will be big, but once again that is a North American thing and not really something that appeals to the masses like Final Fantasy and MGS does internationally. In Europe and Japan the largest genre is the RPG genre which is something that MS fails to accomplish time and time again with games like Sudeki, Enchanted Arms, Blue Dragon. While the games are decent, they're not enough to stand up to NIS, ATLAS, Square, etc.

Sony's strategy really isn't to so much compete with the PS3 this year as it is to compete with the PS2 and build on the PS3. Then by the end of '07 they will switch to the PS3 with hopefully a good line of killer apps like MGS4, FFXIII, MotorStorm, KILLZONE 2, etc. If Sony doesn't get the games up by the end of this year then they will not be the "popular" system.

All in all though, things have changed a lot in the past decade. It's not like it was in the PS1 and earlier days where you needed to secure the market to turn a profit. Today even the last place competetor will still be laughing all the way to the bank because what they'll make off the launch systems alone over 5 years of software would be more then enough to sustain a small country. Therefore thoes who think that being the "popular" system is key to success then you need to get with the times because if that were the case then Nintendo should be long gone by now with 2 generations of "not being THE popular one".

I won't argue too much about this point, because I haven't been personally interested in the 3D Zeldas (though Twilight Princess looks to be the best one yet), but my first response seeing Resistance was "same old, same old". It's fitting that an FPS be considered the system's killer app nowadays, but...eh. I wouldn't say its' generated the same hype as Halo did and it doesn't have the universal appeal the Marios did.

See I think differently. Wii will not compete graphically with either, which is fine with me. It will succeed based on new gamers, which is a devious marketing strategy. However, there are people who are simply tired of entire genres of games or never liked some to begin with (FPS and sports come to mind for me) and may look to the Wii as a legitimately different way of playing them. And in any case, all 3 are in direct competition for the finite resources of every gamer: money, time and shelf space. I mean, it says a lot to me that I'm actually looking forward to picking up Super Swing Golf the day I pick up my Wii (probably along with Super Paper Mario) moreso than anything else out for PS3 or 360 right now...I normally hate golf.

No offense, but that seems like an odd statement. Sudeki and Enchanted Arms...bleah, they're low tier, but Blue Dragon is a major coupe for the 360. Think about it: The guys responsible for Final Fantasy and Toriyama working together exclusively for Microsoft is a huge deal in Japan (and was reflected in console sales, albeit not as dramatically as something bearing the actual FF logo, but still impressive). And it's just a start from them. On top of that, Trusty Bell and Eternal Sonata from Tri Crescendo. Along with Lost Odyssey, that's four fairly high-profile JRPG's on the horizon, which ain't bad. And on top of that, NIS has been slow to announce support for PS3. Given their graphics are strictly PS1 quality (again, not a bad thing), do they really need to go to the next gen and put up with the higher development costs? And on that subject...Dragon Quest IX. DS. That's a major "ouch" for Sony.

Well, I'm just sayin'...It doesn't look good with a $600 system out there with little content with two competitors looking stronger by the second. Remember: Nintendo hopes to get Mario Galaxy, Smash Brothers and Metroid Prime out this year as well, all potential system sellers.

I never said Sony had to win. I just said they have shit for content right now, an ego streak that makes me want to slap some sense into their corporate figureheads and a lot of ground to make up if I'm to take them seriously. I don't care if they win...I just care if they can generate the 10 or so games and the price drop they'll need to get me into their fold.

I don't think that Sony will disapoint in the long run. They always seems to be half asleep at their console launch and don't know what's going on around them. On the other hand, based on the last ten years and market trends I'm not all that worried about my investment.

As for thoes JRPGs coming out for the 360, if you look at sale numbers Blue Dragon didn't do much of anything for the system, it managed to increase sales by 3,000 units that week in Japan and then back down 4,000 the next week so for the effort it didn't do much. From what I've seen so far of Lost Odyssey it's not looking good, just a highly rendered PS2 game, they do nothing new in animation, mechanics or anything else that a PS2 game doesn't already do. For the rest, I'm not going to comment on something I don't know, but I'm always up for a good RPG no matter the system.

I still don't think that the Wii is going to interfere with the other two, which is fine. As you put it;

"It will succeed based on new gamers, which is a devious marketing strategy. However, there are people who are simply tired of entire genres of games or never liked some to begin with (FPS and sports come to mind for me) and may look to the Wii as a legitimately different way of playing them."

These people you mentioned are not potential PS3 or 360 buyers and therefore not going to affect their sales. However this was the exact thing that Nintendo was shooting for, the casual and non-gamer markets.

As for that last part in my prior post it wasn't in response to you actually. It's not your fault for thinking it was due to my lazy post structure, it is just something that I wanted to put in there to inform people that bein the "popular" system, doesn't mean as much as it once did. For example the GameCube was by far the least selling system of last gen, but the most profitable one.

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This is what I've seen of LO to date: http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=1694

I agree...I think they will do well in the long run. But then again, people and developers are going to be a lot more picky with a $600 game system than they would a $300 one that also serves a useful purpose (DVD player) or one that was the first viable introduction to 3D games (and $100 cheaper than the Saturn and way cheaper than 3DO), so anything can happen. There may not be a long run if they don't wake up.

Well, it's a start...:D Best scenarios I read were around the 10,000 range (I think there was a mix-up because they were bundling copies of the game in with the units). It was a losing effort from the start, but at least they're trying...

But what I said was that I think a lot of hardcore gamers will gravitate towards the Wii as well, ones that find the upcoming 360 and PS3 acts a bit too much of an encore performance or for genres they might not normally care about. In the process, it will syphon off people who may buy the PS3 or 360 if the Wii were not an option, not to mention games sales for both. The competition may be more indirect, but considering the timing of Wii's launch and the aggressiveness of Nintendo's upcoming line-up (and the decision to stick in Zelda as a killer app at launch), I'd say both Microsoft and Sony should view the Wii as a lower cost threat/alternative.

We'll see...

But if you're going to count the Wii as a lower cost competator, then you would also have to include the PS2 in that analysis too. At least until the end of the year, by then the PS3 will be $400 - $500 and the big titles like MGS4, DMC4 and FFXIII wil be out or coming out around that time too.

I don't think we need to go on about this much more then we have. We seem to agree on the larger points, as far as that all three should do well and that the market will be pretty split or at least for a good while. Anything beyond that I don't think is something a gamer should have to worry about as long as they're happy with what they've got sitting on top of their TV, no matter the system.

BTW:
Iron Maiden ROCKS!!!!! Makes for the best Gears of War online curb stomp'n tracks go'n.

Yeah, and I shit apricots.

yeah I think that we should not expect a price drop for the ps3 before 2008 and even end of 2008... and it will surely not be a 100-200$ price drop...

like said, I think later the ps3 will be fine when all the big name will be release and when there'll be more games.

and yeah for this gen I don't really care who's more popular, I think we have 3 console that aim for some different style of gamer and everyone have what they want now.

I agree that after more games come out and the hardware is shown off a bit more that the price tag might make more sense to the consumer.

As for the price drop Sony seems very confident that it will make a price drop this year, but how much is still unknown. My sources are IGN, GameSpot and 1UP.

Considering how much they dropped the price prior to launching the console in Japan, HK and the States, it seems very unlikely that Sony would risk another drop in price this year, seeing how they lost so much since the launch. Granted their PS2 and PSP sales dipped and their AV products managed to stem the loss, however a further price drop could be quite a gamble all the same.

Then again, I guess your sources would know a lot more than I do. I'm just happy I have a PS3 now.


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I believe they're replacing the internal PlayStation 2 hardware (or whatever it was) with software emulation, which should make the PlayStation 3 slightly cheaper.

Dunno about MGS4, but if it does (including the euro release) then i'll get one and the game original ofc.....And pirate the HELL OUT OF the other PS3 games (including FF series, XD)

I will eventually own a PS3 partially because I actually have a nice 1080p set so Blu-Ray will be nice and beyond that because I HAVE to play White Knight Story.

As for price drop, something most people don't think about is this: Even if Sony doesn't drop the MSRP themselves, if the units don't move, you can expect some great sales from the retailers. When a product just sits on the shelf, eventually Circuit City or Wal-mart is going to be having "$100 off and get a game free" type sales and eventually those will be sweet enough to take. Hell, even this past Christmas season with as well as 360 was doing, you could already pick up a system and get a guaranteed free game of your choice at most stores.

I'm only gonna consider getting a PS3 after I see more than just MGS4 and FFXIII. For me, those are the ONLY two games that seem worthwhile. To chuck in $1000 for something I won't touch until then isn't enticing. Not even the blu-ray (which I don't see necessary yet... that or maybe I'm a guy that doesn't ask for much).

If the PS3 can produce a library like the PS2 has then PS3 will be able to pull itself back on track. Speaking of which... I gotta get myself a PS2 and play the games I missed out on...

I Already have a PS3, and i would recommend anyone who is going to get one they're awesome.

It feels a lot like I've been kicked in the teeth on the PS3 issue.

About 2 years ago I bought an HDTV (huge-ass CRT, can only do 1080i) because I was planning on playing HD games with it and, at the time, the PS3's ass-rapingly expensive price hadn't been announced.

Then Sony pulled their shenanigans with the XCP rootkit on their music CDs. Being a geek of principle, this made me seriously reconsider buying a PS3. People have waxed lyrical about different divisions of a company and such things, but as far as I was concerned, Sony was Sony and they had done wrong.

Around the same time were the rumours that PS3 games were non-transferable via some kind of serial-number-based DRM. That didn't pan out, but it was another damper on my willingness to pay money for Sony's new widget.

Finally, I find out the PS3 is going to run me $600. Well fuck that. I'll wait for a price drop. In the meantime, I'll just enjoy whatever HD offerings Nintendo has to provide.

"Revolution will not have HD output." God. Dammit.

Finally PS3 gets released and there are all these problems with it. PS2 pixel-flipping thing, HDCP handshake failing, HDCP even existing in the first place, lack of decent games (I know, I know, launch libraries are always slim pickings), no force feedback in the controller, shitty Wii ripoff tilt detection...the list goes on and on.

Initially I was going to buy a PS3 when the next main installment in the Shin Megami Tensei series came out for it (e.g. not a Persona/DDS/DemiKids/Devil Summoner/Soul Hackers/etc.).

After that, it was the combination of SMT and Silent Hill.

Now I've decided that IF I am to ever own a PS3, I shall not pay in excess of $300 for the high-end version, and it shall be purchased used so as not to fund a company that finds it okay to root people's computers. Sony can go to hell. Do not pass Go, do not collect $500 for base model, $600 for enhanced.

And I'm no MSFT/Ninty apologist either. My PS2 library is well over 50 games and I've logged thousands of hours on the little machine. Sony, however, has crossed too many lines and need to learn some humility.

I'll get one when the price drops dramatically and when there are good games for it. So far there are two that look good for me, MGS4 and Lair. I don't give a fuck about HD or whatever because I don't have it right now, and it still won't mask a bad game and in fact will make me feel like I just flushed money down the toilet.

I'm sold! I'm geting PS3 tomorrow!!!

I traded that game in already. :) You're not still playing it are you? :eye:

Actually I think I'll consider buying a PS3 if all my other consoles become faulty as well. Or maybe if they plan a sequel to Ring of Red. :mad:

What became of this? It was all rah-rah at one point and I haven't heard anything since.

They paid out 1.5 mil or thereabouts in discount coupons and everyone pretty much forgot the whole thing ever happened. People don't get nearly pissed off enough these days. I think a few state governments are still pursuing lawsuits against them, but no Sony executives wound up in jail, and no corporate charters were revoked. It's a goddamn shame.

It would've been especially hilarious if major trade sanctions were placed on them just before the PS3 launch. Elliot Spitzer of New York would have pushed for that, methinks.

also if I find website to buy new PS3 (20G) with 500$

Elixir: If you're talking about the music catelogue feature that it gets from the net then yes, it is one heck of a feature. Unlike the 360 catelogue where it only works for the original disc, the PS3 will catelogue anything that has an intact ID3 tag, whether you got it from P2P or the actual disc.

Celtic: I don't even know what you're going on about.

The only thing that's putting me off from buying a PS3 when it launches over here is the price. I'm not willing to spend £425 on a console and then fork out another £100 at least for a couple of games.

Plus the only game that I am really excited about on the PS3 is MGS 4. Maybe by the time that's released, the console will have gone down in price. Though I can't really see that happening until early 2008, if we're lucky.

I may buy one in about three years...literally. Why? The reasons are as follows:

1) I am not that impressed in what I have seen right now (which is admittingly, not too much). When the FIRST Playstation came out and was out for about a year, I was impressed and that made me want to buy it.
2) The game selection is not that impressive. When I bought a PS2, part of the reason was the game selection had increased after two years to include various RPG's and Pro Wrestling games (the latter which I really enjoy playing...especially with a group of people)
3) Bugs. I like to avoid them, and hence wish to wait for a while until all the issues are sorted out.
4) Price. Want to know when I bought a PS2? The day it's price dropped a 100 U.S.D. Seriously, the day it dropped a hundred, I called around to make sure that was the case, and then went out and got one. It's insane to pay 300 Hundred/400 Hundred for a system that within two years will be three-fourths of that price. And I have a PS2 to tide me over until then...

I probably won't be getting one. The price is just to much for me, and the announced games just makes me meh. Funny, I thought PS3 would be the one console I'd be all over, but it's been nothing like that for me.
If there is a huge pricedrop, or I can find a REALLY cheap used one, I might consider it. But for the current price, no.

I believe the console that is most likely to be bought by me is actually the Xbox360 (never thought I'd say that). But the most likely thing overall is that I'll put the money into upgrading my PC.

Don't know what you think you're going to get out of PC gaming that a console, especially a PS3 won't be able to deliver. Now a days the only games that PCs get are late ports of console games. I used to be a PC gamer too, but with lack of exclusives and the fact that the PS3 has Keyboard and Mouse support for the next Unreal Tournament as well as Mod support (which the 360 won't have) I find it way too expensive to bother with PC gaming anymore for the 2 exclusive games that come out each year. To each their own I guess.

I've got all 3 consoles going, and from the current announcements of PS HOME and LBP along with the upcoming PS3 exclusive titles I think the majority of my time will be spent on my PS3 unlike last year when I was mostly on the 360.

Well, I mostly spend my gaming time playing cRPGs nowadays, and while I think there are not enough (good) games in this genre released, there are a few that I look forward. The Witcher and Age of Decadence (though I will certainly not need a new computer for that one) are such examples. I also like that you can customize a lot of the games for PC a lot. Not to mention modules for Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2 (which brings loads of playtime).
My PC is not only for gaming though, so that plays in as well. :)

As for the PS3, well. I used to look forward to stuff like FF and MGS a lot, but I've just lost interest. I don't know why, but the consoles just don't have me interested like they used to.

Probably because you like the community based games where you interact with people more then the pure experiance driven games it would seem.

I now see why you'd want to go with the PC thing more then a new console. ^^

I own one. I reserved one from Gamestop using one of the two employee reserves. Didn't get it on the first reserve shipment because of the shortage,but got it on the second. ;d I haven't even set it up yet. I've opened the box once to take the controller out to carry over to OZZ's house. But Yeah I enjoy the PS3. ^_^ Can't wait till I have time to actually play on mine.

I must get one by september due to MGS4 release date, though this could be changed at any time.

I got my PS3 about 2 days after launch because Gamestop made me wait, since I was an employee and had it reserved. But I have to say I love it. I've had no problems out of it. It has played everyone of my 250+ ps2 games without any problems. As far as games for it go, I have , Resistance,Genji,Virtua Fighter 5, Motor Storm, and now Elder Scrolls. I have to say I love everyone of them as well. Loading times are good on all of them from what I've seen, and graphics are top notch(especially on Virtua Fighter *drool*)

You don't have a 360?

and because he has a 360 he can't get the ps3 version over the 360 one? :eye:

I got the 360 version and had to stop playing it after 10 hours because the stuttering was killin the immersion for me. Seriously, I've seem crack children that were more stable then that thing man. The PS3 version, I wouldn't know it was loading if the game didn't say so.

Nope and I don't want a 360. As far as the Elderscrolls goes, it's basically the same on both systems. But the loading is not even noticed most the time if it wasn't for it saying it while you're running around as Slayer said. The only other difference I've seen between it and the 360 version are that the graphics are a touch better on the ps3. Basically the draw distance is a little bit farther and it experiences less slowdown from what I've seen. That and the Knights of the nine content, that's downloadable for 360 now.