24 Season 6 Discussion Thread
 

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Season 6 Anticipation Thread


January 14, 2007 is finally here, meaning a new season of 24 starts tonight at 8/7c. So here's the place where you can discuss it with your fellow Gamingforce members! Just as before, the rules are that you can openly discuss anything that has already aired, but anything regarding future episodes (including previews for next week's episode, casting news, etc.) must be put in spoiler tags. Other than that, just have fun discussing the best show ever!

Mmm, can't wait 2 hour season premiere AND another 2 tomorrow! Heh, I read in the Future Shop flyer that you can even pick up the first 4 episodes on DVD this Tuesday.

Oh and McFarlane is bringing us 24 figures!

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http://action-figure.com/index.php?n...icle&sid=20927

I'll be needing those toys as soon as possible. =p

First two episodes done. I assume we'll continue the rule of no spoiler tags required after the episode aired...

Man, so how aobut the end of that first episode: reminiscent of the "hacksaw." <3

And what the hell: we had a :jackfail: there. I guess he's allowed one just as I'm allowed one :nazfail: ever. No worries though, he can only get more awesome from here.

Also, Palmer's sister brings me back to a statement a while back. The females in 24 really do just bring unnecessary complications/problems into the day. We can forgive Chloe because she's Chloe, but Wayne's sister yo... get out.

IS IT MONDAY YET?

Bah. Am I not allowed to anticipate every hour of this nonstop season?

Well, since my comments were posted in the other one, I'll leave it there if people are so inclined.

If anything, this season was advertised to the point of insanity. I'm fine with Fox showing commercials in every block, but there seemed to be a 24 tie-in with every radio station in my region. I'm richer for knowing that 24 is P.diddy's favorite show however.

I like how good old Dr. Bashir has completely changed his image. If I hadn't seen his name in the credits, I wouldn't have recognized him.

Holy shit. From the people who watched the leaked episodes (Team Weak Sauce), to the critics' reviews, everyone has been saying these episodes would be great. It's not that I doubted them or anything, but I just had to see for myself.

And see I did.

As out of it as Jack should be and even thinks he is, he's not. Going into vampire mode on that one guy and kicking the other one out of a moving train are some of the coolest thing he's done in the entire series. Therefore, I refuse to believe Jack can't do this anymore. Okay, so he didn't get all the info from that one guy. Who cares, he's still freaking awesome.

Also, just something I noticed, but why is it that every even numbered season has Middle eastern terrorists? Not that significant (or is it?), but just thought I'd mention it.

So anyway, I am now pumped for tomorrow. I can't even process two more hours right now (yes I could), so I gotta take a breather.

Also, I meant to close the Anticipation thread (it's here so there's really no more need to anticipate it anymore!), so I'll go do that now, to make sure there's no more confusion.

I just made a necessary 24 addition to my signature. <3

My heart's still racing. Clearly, I'm assigning myself 24-related tasks to do for the next 21 hours. :tpg:

If you enjoyed the first two, the next two will interest you even more =D I love this season. Jack Vambauer~

As I have already seen the first 4 eps as well as 10 min of the 5th, I'll say this:

Episodes 1-3 = Boring, average 24. Not good for a season opener. Too many 24 cliches and predictable scenarios.
Episode 4 = Holy crap this is what I've been waiting for.

The end of tomorrow night's episode will blow you away.

I haven't watched episode 4 yet. My mom doesn't want to see it yet but we saw the first two on tv and just watched the third. I'm watching it when she goes to sleep.

JazzFlight, I disagree, the first three were still good episodes, despites the clichés. But yeah, I agree that episode 4 is jaw-dropping. I have to admit that the show creators have balls of steel.

I wonder if they'll stick to Islamic terrorists again. This is the third time they're involved, it -is- getting a bit stale. Still, it only bothers me a little, not much. And it's only the beginning of the season, there's plenty of time left in the day for it to change direction completely. :D

Wouldn't be surprised to see that the terrorists are (gasp!) part of some bigger more sinister plot.

It could happen >_>

Bah, if I had payed attention to the forums I would've known about these leaks. Either that or searching through a torrent site. Ah well, I've waited this long, I could always wait another day.

Fuck. Getting stabbed in that little fleshy part below the knee would hurt like hell.

I just watched episode four. Oh. My. God.

As a person who has had severe knee injuries before, that made me fucking CRINGE ;__;

Those of you who have seen episode four, on a scale of one through ten, how much of an "oh shit" moment is the ending? Do NOT give details, just a rating of the ending.

xman25

OMG. Tonight's episodes were amazing. Jack Vambauer LOL... and from what I've been reading, tomorrow promises something intense. I can't wait :).

I'd say anywhere from an 8-10 on that. It was really good.

So yeah, more awesome last night.

The whole Curtis thing seemed pretty obvious. I mean, he was acting way out of character (he's usually one of the most levelheaded people on the show), so you knew either he or Assad was going to wind up dead. And since Roger Cross had been downgraded to just a guest star, it was pretty easy to figure out that it would be Curtis. The scene was still good though, it just would have had more impact if there wasn't so much build-up to it.

Also, the whole bomb going off seemed kinda obvious too, though that probably had more to do with everybody going OMG HOLY SHIT about this episode. I guess built my expectations up too high though, so it was kinda my own fault. About the only thing that could have really surprised me was if they killed Jack, which I knew was not going to happen.

And thank God they stopped this Milo/Morris shit, for now anyway. Morris seemed like a really cool character at the end of last season, but they just made him annoying now. Even without the Chloe background between them (which I'm trying to figure out where it even takes place in the context of the show), the fact that Morris could get away with so much disrespect to Milo just doesn't seem believable.

So now, not only do we seem to get Middle Eastern terrorists every other season, but now we get a nuclear threat in every other one as well? I admit I liked the idea of starting off with attacks already happening, but going back to stopping the nuclear threat (even if there is more than one of them) just seems kinda meh.

Wow, this post seems way more negative than I intended it to be, so just in case it doesn't seem like, I did enjoy the episodes. Other than things I mentioned above, I thought everything else was great. Also, next week looks to be awesome as well.

Sucks about Curtis =( He's definitely one of my favorite characters. I mean come on, he handled field ops with Jack and wasn't as annoying as fuck (see Chase).

As far as threats, there are only so many things you can do, I'd figure -- assassinations and WMDs. There's probably more than meets the eye right now. This badguy right now might get whacked mid-season and the real mastermind will show up. Season 2 had an oil scheme behind the terrorism and what-not, and this might have something brewing as well.

I agree, Morris-Milo thing was kinda irritating. Chloe didn't seem the type to recognize "zomg drama~" on sight. But still, I wish they'd ditch drama and keep this to action.

It's a good thing that the father in that family bought the farm in the nuke. Probably means that in another episode or so, that family will be out of it. Or so I hope... Kumar (lol) died en route to the hospital, dad died, don't think they'd need the family anymore beyond telling them that the guy was caught in the nuke.

Still, I'd like to see Audrey come up in this. They'd better not bring Kim into it, because her emo shit pissed me off in S5, along with her boinking her shrink. Or whoever that guy was.

GET ME JACK BAUER IMMEDIATELY

Yeah. Oh my God. I was speechless about the events at the end. But, yeah, comments from the earlier parts...

"Anacostia Detention Center... where are all the black people?"

"Man, I miss David aka Dennis aka the Big Brown Bear aka the All-American out of Xavier. What happened to 'WE DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS!'?"

Dang. Wayne Palmer gets the start with 24's immortalized words. It's time to start the list:

"THERE IS NOT ENOUGH TIME"
1. Wayne Palmer

"DAMMIT"*
1. Wayne Palmer
2. Bill Buchanan

* This one's probably inaccurate since I didn't check the first two episodes for it. Feel free to correct.

For those of you watched the leaked 24 episodes, you will be receiving your dude licenses back on a provisional basis. It was truly an unforgivable act of treason, but a full parson from the President may be coming because of how fucking awesome this premiere was.

Anyway, I wanna text "24" to "Jack". :tpg:

Wow, I did not expect to see Curtis go so soon. I thought he'd last till next season or at least till the end of this season. Great 4 hour premier as always.

I'm a bit tired of the series unnecessarily killing good characters. I like the 'no one is safe except Jack' premise, but they've already more than proved their point. I don't know if the writers are doing this for shock value or they're too cheap to negotiate new contracts but DAMN! Did Jack actually have to kill Curtis? It could have easily been a non-fatal shot that put him out for a few episodes or even the entire season, but NOOO they have to kill him off. I'm not so much upset that Curtis was a good character that's no more, but that when you continue to be 'cutting edge' it gets a bit tiresome.

I'm pretty sure it was a non-lethal shot...

No way, he's totally dead.

1. I agree with Naz about all.

2. Yeah neck shot. And it looks like he is dead.

And three I am having problems getting into Wayne as President after Big Brown Bear did such a godly job. Maybe he will grow on me though. I dont know.

Manning confirmed dead. ;_;

Then again, they say Tony is deceased too, but we all know we're anticipating the return of Zombie Almeida and the quote of the season:

"TONY, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD!"
"...I am..."

Maybe Curtis will do something like President Keeler (way back when). You're pretty sure he's dead but out of respect for the character you'll never know either way.

I don't see him figuring back into things this season. Curtis was good, but not great, and while its sad to see him go, its nothing as sad as Edgar dying last season. ;_;

They're saying that Audrey might figure in to a couple episodes, depending on the schedule of Kim Raver. And frankly, we don't really need anymore Kim, unless its some sort of sweeps thing to draw in more viewers. Unnecessary, I know, but it can't hurt.

I'm waiting for new Palmer to make some real definite stands, as opposed to just picking between the two choices his main advisors seem to give him.

I must say that the 4th episode of Season 6 had some pretty insane moments.

Shit, I thought Jack would have shot Curtis's arm or something, but in the fucking throat?! Goddamn! I expected Curtis to have lived for a couple more episodes.

I didn't think they'd actually succeed in blowing up that nuke. The dad could have at least tried and tackled that guy instead of standing there yelling "NOOO!". Also, couldn't he have sabatoged the wirings or something with the device? I dunno, maybe snap a few wires or chips or even spitting on it or pour water on it to fry the circiuts?

Yes, he did need to kill him. It was for the advancement of Jack's character. I agree will Rock about how the lead ups are leaking tension and surprise, but the one of the few things this season is shaping up to do spectacularly is push his character beyond the breaking point. Regarding themes covered and Jack's character, the first four hours have laid some very decent ground work for the rest of the season.

Wawow. Amazing. I couldn't watch when they aired it, I watched a few hours later. Explosive. 24 is not to be fucked with.

I've ignored all post above because I havent seen episode 4 yet, but my DVD came yesterday so I got to watch the first 3 hours.

Talk about current events, 2nd and 3rd hour have been pretty much keeping to the formula nothing really amazing, other than that I hope Jack has some flash backs.

Cool thing about the DVD is it comes with half of the fifth hour :edgarrock:

Curtis: I didn't see it coming. Sure, him having a problem with Assad was pretty apparent, but I just didn't see him actually going through with it until he almost did. Did Jack even have a clear shot to anything by his face or neck?

Bomb: In most shows, Curtis's death would've been enough. But not on 24. I knew the nuke would go off, that that strike team would fail, and I still couldn't believe it after it happened. I sat in shock. Perhaps this explosion helps explain why Jack will be more mobile in the movie.

Wayne: To be honest, I think he's dumber as President. Not to say he was wonderfully smart or level-headed in the past, but he seems less like himself now.

They've set the bar high. Now they have to live up to it.

Honestly, I'm just not that sad to see Curtis go. He never had as much character development as someone like Tony (or even Edgar), so there wasn't that much for the audience to get attached to. The question is, will the producers bring in another black guy so there's continued diversity at CTU?

I am not impressed at all with this season so far(and the last few seasons for that matter). 24 is starting to remind me of Pro Wrestling now. The same scenarios are rehashed in slightly different ways, with slightly different results. Episode 4 didn't impress me, because, for one, immediately you could tell Curtis would try to kill Assad, which I didn't really care about, but it haunted me the whole episode because it was so obvious. Also, The nuke going off at the end is a rehash of last season with the nuclear plant meltdown, only to realize there is going to be more of the exact same threat. I can go on and on with problems I see, but I won't bother them all or I will be here for hours. I really wish I could ignore it, but I just can't.

I hate all the characters except Jack, who I just don't care about any more, I hate the cliches and constant story rehashing. I hate the horrible fake accents. I hate that the writers almost ignore that the fact that the story is supposed to be in real time. I hate that Jack Bauer has to Shave and get a Haircut 5 minutes after he comes back from China only because in less then an hour later, he is a be tortured and executed by terrorists(sorry, I just had to throw that in). I think it would have been very interesting(and realistic) if he kept the beard and long hair for the entire season.

I really think that 24 needs to take a 1 or 2 year hiatus, so the writers can really come up with a really unique, compelling, and more realistic season(that doesn't involve any more nuclear weapons...BORING). I can imagine it is extremely hard to come out with 24 episodes of show every single year, so why not take a break and make it good, and them come back.

Season 1 was such a great season for many reasons, the main one being that creators were probably planning the show for years, so they actually had time to write 24 great unique, compelling, and realistic episodes. Season 2 was great too, because that was probably thought about for years too. Since then, downhill, like a rushed series of video games, where the developer has to put out a new one every year, with no time to polish the game and make it original.

A show on HBO called The Wire took a 2 year hiatus and this last season every minute of every show, my eyes were glued to screen, because it had such great writing, I was amazed. Not since Season 2 of 24 was I so engaged in a show.

Anyway, forgive my rant, 24 was, by far, my favorite show at one time, that's why it bothers me so much that the show just isn't very good any more. I will continue to watch though, because I have a lingering hope that maybe I will love it again.

Am I the only guy who wasn't upset when Edgar died? I thought he powertripped way too much when he got above Chloe >_<

Also, don't count on flashbacks. This acts in real-time, and I doubt they would allow Jack to stare at nothing whilst wide-eyed for about five minutes =p

Hasnt there already been a nuke go off back in season 3 or something, the one when mason flies the plane whilst he is dieing of radiation poisoning.

24 does rehash alot of things, like victims killing their captors, remember i think in season 2 or 3 one of the agents wife was brought into ctu only to then shoot the bad guy. Then the same happened in season 5 with the underaged girl. We will have to see what happens to CTU next episode will they have to lock themselves in the situation room again, only to realize someone left a window open.

Anyway, you can see why they went for the nuke, whats more dangerous than a nuke?!? i mean they've had the killer virus, nerve gas, next they could have anti-matter lol

I agree with you, Jack could of done with a whole new look. I sad Curtis died (wait a sec, Cloe said Jack killed curtis, but no one actually said Curtis is dead, i mean they would of announced that field officer Curtis was killed in action or something), simply because he never had any decent roles, just keeps getting shot.

You know what I think it would be pretty interesting if all the nukes go off, Jack actually fails to save the day. But then day 7 can be all about american being taken over by terrorist with them all in the white house etc. Better stop ranting now lol

Ah no flash back would be good, I thought they were about to do one in the first hour when he was riding in the car staring out of the window.


LOL did anyone order a Bauer doll, only to find that it has been delayed.
here is the reason ROFL
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf...totype_1018941

The best season was the 1st season, there was no nuke and no real high scale terrorist threat for that matter. The plot was Jack Bauer's wife and daughter are kidnapped by a terrorist group plotting to kill presidential candidate David Palmer. That's it... the threat was really only against 3 people, yet it was the most compelling season. Season 2 had a nuke, but it was the first time, and but the season was really mainly about stopping a war from happening and it was a great season because it had good writing and characters I cared about. Since then, seasons 4, 5, and now 6, all have nuclear threats. WHO CARES ABOUT NUKES? It's not a numbers game, a great season isn't determined about how many people can potentially die. I cared much much more about if someone was going to successfully kill David Palmer in Season 1 than I cared about a million people dieing in a Nuclear meltdown in Season 5.

When Jack Bauer was captured by the Chinese at the end of last season, I was really hoping this season would just be about Jack having to escape from the Chinese. Instead, Jack Bauer has to save millions of Americans... again.

That would be far more interesting than Jack saving America from Nukes... again.

OBJECTION.

There are no nukes in Season 5. Period.

Nevermind, still, 3 is too many.

I've actually thought a death threat/attack on the President or, moreso, on Washington would make for an interesting season.

The reason they keep using nukes is because obviously, that's the most devastating blow you can strike. Realistically, chemical and biological weapons are too specialist of a weapon and require far too much care not to kill yourself with the shit.

Whereas when nukes go off everybody on the globe collectively deficates themselves.

This season is more about Jack stopping nukes - it's the ability of terrorists to strike with impunity with small-scale attacks that short of completely suspending civil liberties and locking everyone down, you can't stop. It paints a picture of America under seige by its enemies and what it's government is willing and able to do to make it stop.

Actually, it's only the first 12 minutes. I thought the best part was that it came with a $10 off coupon for any other season (especially since I only paid $9 for the DVD).

Is the Muslim and the Irishman not diverse enough for you? :p

Actually, they weren't planning the show for years. Maybe about a year, at the most. Before 24, they were still working on La Femme Nikita, which ran until 2001 (the same year 24 started). And just in general (listen to the DVD commentaries, and interviews and stuff), they've always said that they don't plan things out that far in advance, and mainly write as they go.

So to say that they even had Season 2 thought about for years was definitely way off. They didn't even know if Season 1 would get picked up for the whole season, so why start planning Season 2? And when you look at it, they had more time between the later seasons since they actually had breaks between them, unlike when 24 was scheduled like a regular show (starting in September, instead of in January like it is now).

I agree with you that Season 1 is the best season, so I'm not against you or anything, but to give you my honest opinion, I just think maybe you're disillusioned with the show or something. I mean, admittedly, some of the plots are starting to wear a little thin, but what long-running show hasn't experienced that? The way you talk about it though, you make it seem like the show has had some massive decline in quality, which it really hasn't. That's just my opinion, though.

RockgamerXIII pretty summed up my impressions on episode 4. The Manning thing was kinda expected with the way they were leading towards it, but happend a little earlier than I was expecting. The detonating the nuke thing would have been great if I didn't read into the hype built up by everyone else, ahh my own fault. Actually to be honest, if no one had said it was a shocker, I would have thought that the detonation would be prevented or the father doing something courageous to stop it. Still a pretty good surprise, yet another blow to Jack's unstable mental state. Haha, and Wayne just pretty much lays down on all fours after that. Can't wait till next episode!

Hahaha, LMAO. That was awesome! No wonder it took em so long to (re)make him.

Look, I'm not certain about it, but what I mean when I said they were thinking about the show for years, was that maybe the creators, even while making La Femme Nikita, or even long before that, had an idea in their mind, "Won't it be great if we made a show about a government agent who had his family kidnapped?..." and over several years, thought about different ideas, scenarios, etc., long before they even decided to make the show maybe having enough ideas for a couple seasons over the years. And when it came time to actually write the show, they already had these great unique ideas, and didn't have to quickly come up with something. It seems obvious to me, that they used all of their good ideas first, and now they are just quickly coming up with ideas. Some new ideas are good, but a ton are bad.

Yes, to me, I do see a massive decline in quality. The writing is very bad compared to the first couple of seasons in my opinion. The ideas are hashed way too much, most of the surprises don't really shock me anymore, cliche after cliche, 95% of the characters are lame and don't care about any of them at all, etc. I haven't watched the first 2 seasons in a couple years, so maybe the show has always been like this, and just didn't see it(I doubt that). Maybe I will have to get back and watch them again. But I definitely see many problems now, as with the last couple seasons too.

I started watching 24 at the very end of Season 1, I didn't really know what was going on, so it didn't know how great it was. When Season 2 started, I watched from the beginning, and I remember being blown away. So I bought Season 1 on DVD and was even more blown away by Season 1. I can tell you now, if I had started watching at season 3(which was okay), 4, 5, or 6, I would not have been blown away. So I do definitely see a decline in quality.

I don't watch a whole lot of different shows, but one show I watch that have been around as long as 24 is The Shield. That show has always been consistently great, although not perfect. But the difference is, there are only 12-13 episode per season of The Shield, and there are 24 episodes per season of 24, so I can definitely see it has to be much harder to write double the amount of episodes in the same or probably shorter amount of time. That's why I say they should take a year off, and take the time to write a great season instead of having to rush everything.

I thought the premiere was great, especially the bomb detonation, which was a real shock to me. I had heard it was the best episode of 24 ever, but couldn't think of what could happen to make people say that, well, now I know. Although I knew Curtis was going to die, I thought the way he died was sad, especially his expression, although I didn't really like his character, and he felt a bit pointless to me. As other people have mentioned I didn't like the way Curtis has been pretty lifeless for the last couple of seasons, but the episode he's going to die in he's suddenly got character, I was a bit disappointed with this.
I do however think back to Season 1, and think about how different it is to this season. Although the bomb detonation was a major shock, I just couldn't help thinking that it was a bad idea, it just seemed a bit ... Stupid. Anyway, it still remains my favourite ever show, and I will continue to watch (unless it ends up like Lost).
My list of favourite seasons, from favourite to least favourite is :

Season 1 (fantastic plot, and it was overall just ... great!)
Season 5
Season 6 (maybe)
Season 3
Season 2
Season 4 (bored the hell out of me, but Mandy made the end worthwhile)

What about everyone else?

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Oh, and commenting on the music (this is Gamingforce after all). I have always been a fan of the 24 music, and I thought the end music after Curtis was killed was amazing, but when I did a bit of research I found that it was actually taken from the Crash score. I was very disappointed with this, because as far as I know Callery has always composed his own music, and has never used music from somewhere else, and although it was a great piece, I felt almost betrayed by him!

Ah thought it sounded familar lol, didnt like the music in season 5 so I was hoping season 6 would be better, I don't mind if he uses or remakes movie scores as long as it fitting and not over the top violins and trumpets.

I agree with Enter User Name.

I see some real problems with 24 now. Season 6 has started off on the wrong foot.

The writers had a TON of possibilities after Season 5 and they flushed them all down the toilet to just go back to the same old cliched plots.

COMPLAINTS LIST:
-Just basically erased the whole China storyline. This could have made for an entire season of saving Jack from prison! Jack doesn't even have a scar on his face (would have been badass), instead he has some lame fake-looking acid hand and some scars on his back that you'll never see again.

-Wayne Palmer is president and is a spineless wimp. What. The. Fuck. How the fuck did he become president!? He certainly doesn't even seem like he wants the position or is qualified in the least! He doubts Jack, too! Fucking Logan was better than this guy! AND WAYNE USED TO BE A (moderately) GOOD CHARACTER!

-Again, why does the president only deal with 1 or 2 personal advisers? Where is his staff? I'd hate to think that all these decisions are being made without input from more people.

-Bad taste in my mouth from CTU and Wayne selling Jack out SEVERAL times during the first few hours and having the fucking audacity to NOT LISTEN TO HIM when he asked to call off the air strike.

-24 cliche to have an unsuspecting civilian family get involved and fuck shit up.

-Out of character for Curtis to act the way he did.

-I HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE Morris and Milo.

-Chloe isn't hot, stop trying to make her the new "24 CTU hottie." She's nerdy and funny, but she has the face of a frustrated bulldog.

I think Chloe's kinda hot...


And I like Morris but that might be the English thing.

No worries, Jazz. Half the characters you don't like will probably be dead by mid-season =p However, it'll take 'till Season 7 before the timely CTU personnel wipe via terrorist attack. Or so one would THINK!

Okay, but the creators have said that the first thing that came in their mind was the real-time concept, not the story or setting or anything. All that came afterward, so it's not like they had this massive amount of time to work on these things like you seem to think they did. Who says you can't write great stuff in a short amount of time anyway?

As for the show taking a break, I doubt that's going to happen, and it doesn't really need to. Besides, since it's at the height of it's popularity now, this would probably be the worse time for it to take a year off. They just got all these new viewers with Season 5, so why drive them all away by not showing the show? Maybe you've just had an overload of the show or something, and thus, you should take a break from it, but I honestly don't think the show taking a break would affect it that much.

But honestly, this all stems from your percieved decline in quality of the show, so while you think Seasons 3-6 are bad, it doesn't mean that they actually are (personally, I think Season 2 is the worst season, looking back at it). I can't make you change your mind about this, but I did want to mention these things.

LOL I always thought the same, but each season she seems to get better looking, until she pulls that bull dog face.

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/8931/cloepw3.jpg

Don't know what it is, :-_-:

Maybe it's because she needs to smile more. On interviews and stuff, she doesn't look that bad.

Ok, well if the creators came up all of the ideas right away for season 1, then they did a very good job. But I do kind of find that hard to believe that FOX just called them up one day and said "Hey, we want you guys to come up with a show off the top of your heads, writing and film it and we will put on the air in less than a year". Very illogical. Anyway, that was just a concept I had as to why season 1 was so good, like I said, I really didn't know. But the last couples seasons weren't good to me, so I think they are just running out of good ideas and rely way too much on the same ideas again and again.

You're right, the show probably won't take a break, but I think it should. As for it losing viewers, if the show still really is great, and people love it so much, they will come back because of anticipation. People tend not to forget great things so easily. If you look at a show like The Sopranos, they take 2 years off, and come back and get monsters numbers from the start. The longer the show stays off for, the higher rating the season premier seems to get because of the anticipation involved. But 24 being on FOX, which tends to like to milk a franchise for every dollar it can, the show won't take time off, because it will would not make as much money. But in affect, you lose quality. I prefer quality over quantity. I would much rather have 2 great seasons of 24 in 4 years, than 4 mediocre/OK ones.

BTW, I actually thought season 3 was alright, and just 4 and 5 were very mediocre and season 6 looks to be going in that same direction so far. Season 2 was great in my opinion because all of the ideas were fresh at the time, and I actually liked most of, if not all of the characters, cliches were less existent, and writing much better. The plot wasn't the best, but it was very well done, I thought. So, yes you can't make me change my mind, I know bad quality when I see it.

lol I was just thinking that they really should of done a 24 with Jack in China. Kinda Prison Break but without the dumb characters.

I've started rewatch season 1, its amazing how Jack is so different, he doesn't joke anymore. And the script was way better in season 1 than it is now, the character development is brilliant, now they just chuck in random technology terms. Lol did anyone catch what Cloe said to Nadia, another firewall term.

Is it me or are more and more hotties getting put into 24!

Oh and I think 24 are only to stick to the muslim terrorist thing again, I just checked the movie cast on IMDB and the lead bad guy is Fahim Fazli.

I was going to say the same thing. I started watching 24 toward the middle of season 5, so I don't really know why the Chinese were after Jack, but I would've liked to see what happened to him after season 5.

You can catch up with the all the 24 episodes you missed here

http://tv.peekvid.com/s3048/

;)

And the first 10 or so minutes of episode 5 have been uploaded to youtube, I think from the DVD that was released recently.




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It starts off fast as you would expect, everyone is running down the streets to escape the blast radius, Jack is looking helpless but ends up helping someone out of a crashed helicopter before phoning CTU to bring him back in, oh, and Wayne and everyone else is moved down to the bunker. We are also introduced to someone who apparently sold the nukes, but he's already annoying me, will have to wait and see.

This may be way more analyzing than necessary for this show, but after watching the premiere again (:tpg:), I note that Jack Bauer memorized the coordinates to Al-Assad's location, you know, before going vampire on that one guard. Then the kid, Scott, is able to recall the where Ahmed told his dad to bring that package. What is this? Subtle foreshadowing of some sort? Will this Scott kid be the next Jack Bauer? Nay. He will be the first Scott Wallace. Yup.

Screw it. Forget I typed anything. I'm just in 24 withdrawal already.

IS IT MONDAY YET? ;_;

lol i cant wait for monday either, 24, Prison Break, Heroes !!!

and...his hair......, as much as I love Sutherland.

Season 6 has been pretty enjoyable for me so far, save the awful treatment of Curtis. I understood how annoying Kimberly and Audrey had been.

One question:
When will the soundtrack for Season 6 be released? I liked the music so far :)

The soundtrack for Seasons 4 and 5 didn't come out until recently. I wouldn't expect a soundtrack until after Season 7 finishes airing.

yeh its a shame that, only recently managed to get the LOST soundtrack.

Oh shit the rumor mill was right again! That guy's son's actor let loose his last name last week.

HOLY SHIT I don't even know what to say.

Godly shit once again folks.

Considering they alluded to a thing between Jack and his brother's wife in the past and the long pause on the kid when him and Jack met, it wouldn't surprise me if that ended up being the truth.

Pretty good episode. Not much really accomplished plot-wise, but alot of Jack's backstory was revealed, so it was still good.

So yeah, Romano is Jack's brother. Never saw that one coming. It's all fine in delivering the shock value, but I seriously want to know more about him, especially in relation to what he did last season. Hope Jack doesn't kill him first, though. As for Jack's father (shame they couldn't get Donald Sutherland to play him), I doubt he's actually bad (red herring like what), but a Bauer/Bauer showdown would be pretty awesome. Also:



Fayed is definitely no Marwan. While Marwan seemed like he had his shit planned to a T, Fayed is just half-assing it, and almost making it up as he goes along. I mean, I know he actually got a nuclear bomb to go off, but he did it in the worst way possible (in that it didn't go off in the location he wanted it to, and he lost the engineer and that component thing so he could set the other bombs off in a timely manner). Sorry, but so far I wouldn't put him up too high on the "Greatest 24 Villains" list.

And what's with that scene at the beginning with Wayne and his cabinet? It seemed like it was almost word for word like the scene in Season 2 about going to war with those countries that supposedly helped Sayed Ali. And just in general, Lennox is getting fucking annoying, and not even in a good way (i.e. as a character you love to hate, like Miles last year). The fact that anyone would even give him the time of day anymore is just stupid.

Once the action picks up again (in other words, once Fayed can actually use the rest of the bombs), I'm sure the show will get better overall, but for now, getting some backstory on Jack's family ain't all that bad.

Still, I dunno why, but I just burst out laughing when Jack pulled out the plastic baggie for his brother =p And yeah, the kid probably is his. The way he acted toward him seemed awkward in a way that it'd fit with that.

Jack's endless list of girlfriends and old flames sure is getting old though. He had an affair while Teri was still around, and maybe had a kid. I dunno... =( But yeah, nice episode~

I don't like any of the Palmers though. Wish they'd axe them from the story. But now that we have another sibling, even if Wayne is killed, we're stuck with the sister... MRS. PALMER FOR PRESIDENT LOLOSHIT ><

I agree with most of what rockstar said, I like that they are bring in more back-story on Jack. I like that the twist that Jack brother is part of the group that was controlling President Logan last seasons. Hopeful they make good use of this and not just something they threw in for the heck of it (the threat for the second half of the season may be?). Morris was dragging down the CTU part of the story with his annoying attitude it seemed he has toned down the attitude a bit and is now tolerable (and it only took a nuclear bombing going off in the city he supposed to be helping protect to do it!)

Lastly, I hope they keep showing the damage this is doing to Jack emotional especially now with his father and brother getting involved. I mean if were Jack the thought in my head at this point would be something like this: “You know what? I step in foot in LA and within 5 hours I’m surround by suicide bombers, suitcase nukes, terrorists, reformed terrorists, people wanting me to save them because in all these years I’m still apparently the only person who can do this job and who despite this don’t play attention too me until it already too late all while not even being an official officer which mean I probably won’t even get paid for this; people who want to torture me, people wanting to use me as a sacrificial lamb, I just killed a friend and I just found out my brother and father might be terrorists which means all of my family is either dead, a terrorists or fucking some shrink twice her age who thinks everything can be fixed via breathing exercises…I’m going back to China.”

Strangely that is exactly why I hated Marwin. His plan was too perfectly planed out especially for something so convoluted. We are going to kidnap the secretary of defense and broadcast the execution on TV but not just on the news we are going to highjack the words computer grinds to broadcast it over the net; which is actually a distraction to let us hack in to certain computer so we can use an override devise we stole from a train we bombed this morning to make all the countries nuclear power plants blow up, which will make the president retreat to air force one which we will blow out of the sky with this jet we are going to steal, and then when the plan is down we are going to steal the nuclear football and use it to get our hands on a warhead and launch it at LA all in one day all with out a hitch. Come on I know 24 has some pretty ridiculous and convoluted plot lines but come on; the sear number of separate large scale attacks all crammed in too one day on all basically depending on the attack before it going off just right make Marwins plan so ridiculous that I can’t take him seriously as a true character hw was just another super intelligent generic super-villain. The half-assedness of Fayed at least make this story line more believable.

Agreed but to me this is a good sign after watching the premier my thought is that the seasons could become more like seasons 2 (a really good seasons) or it could become like season 4 (the worst season, started and ended strong but the middle was a mess). The fact that I being reminded of seasons 2 and not seasons 4 is a good sign for the seasons.

As I finally note from those of you afflicted from 24 withdrawal there are some 24 webisodes /degree deodorant commercials, centered around a rookie at CTU. Nothing real interesting except it prove my long standing suspicion that even doing something as simple as get a cup of coffee is a life and death experience if you happen to live in the 24 universe: http://www.cturookie.com/men/cturookie/default.asp

hell yes!

NOT GOOD ENOUGH

hot 24 quote action returns.

Jack's going to be the next prez... I heard it in the rumormill... and he bangs his secretary clinton style. booya bitch.

I was rather disappointed by this episode. The family plotline seems unnecessary. I imagine this only lead to an even more complicated season. And, for a man that "can't do this anymore" he certainly seems perfectly willing to resort to his old ways to gain information from his brother. He's doing his own thing again, under the radar. I hope it works out.

This one's minor, but how did Walid know how to say Fayed's name? He only saw it printed.

One last thing. I don't think Philip Bauer is involved in terrorism.

Well... baldy being Jack's brother was a definate surprise. I do like how they're revealing some more of Jack's backstory though.

I'm really getting annoyed with Palmer's sister. She's just... well, annoying. She's a nagging bitch.

What about Trust me I'm not hurting you :edgarrock:

oh it's there. feeling the power of bauer so hard. :edgarrock:

Jack's whole "I CANT DO THIS ANYMORE~" is gonna fall off the map just like his drug addiction did in S3. The writers go "yea, this works~ Uhm... Fuck, let's drop it."

Quite a good episode overall, although I already knew about the brother storyline.
Did anyone else love the final cutscene (or stinger as some call it)? Wayne's speech covering the boxes showing people involved in the threat such as the new British sounding guy, Fayed etc. I thought that was really well done.

It's pretty clear what happend. He did want to get out, but when the nuclear bomb hit he wanted back in. Hell Jack said exactly that during the episode. Jack, if nothing else, has always had an intense sense of duty. It's perfectly reasonable that the Bomb and the threat of more overrode his unitial unwillingness to help. This isn't hard to get.

How do you know how to say Smith? Fayed isn't terribly difficult to pronounce and I'd imagine working for an Islamic organization, he's probably come across that surname before.

haha so basically what we learned here is the moment jack quits is the moment the US gets nuked.

jack: "i can't do this anymore..."
*NUCLEAR EXPLOSION*
jack: "alright, i'm back."

:tpg:

Whether or not you like the timing of the bomb as a plot device is up to you. The reasoning for why Jack is back in the game is independent of that, reasonable, and easy to understand.

I know this is a bit late to be asking this but why exactly did the dad kill that dude in the warehouse? I didn't really get that part.

The part cost a loooot of money (more than he was given), and the dad needed it or else his family would die. Lacked the money, low on time, family's life in peril... That old chestnut. Either way, it was either kill him or walk out and let his family die.

Oh ok. Thanks for clearing that up.

I think that episode was on the same day as the Golden Globe Awards or something. My brother was switching between the two shows and we missed that part. We just saw the dad beat the dude's head into the floor when he changed the channel back to 24.

Kill him, save family. Walk away, save countless lives.

The whole brother thing is awesome!! Yeh I also found it quite funny his brother gasping like a goldfish.

Theres a surprise, whereever there is evil there is alway a Brit behind it! lol

He didn't know that the part was for a nuke.

He knew it was for terrorism. That should have been enough.

I doubt that many people would sacrifice their family for people he had no connection to. I know that if my family were in harms way then I'd do all I could to save them, to hell with nameless faces.

I probably would feel the same way. However, I would probably realize that the word of a terrorist is worth exactly jack shit, so while I put up the appearance of meeting their demands, there is no way I wouldn't try to contact some form of authority.

I rather would have dumped a bucket of acid on him and have a car hit him.

Ehh, it still makes no sense why the dad didn't try to stop that guy from detonating the nuke.

a) His hands were tied. Literally.
b) There was gunfire. He could've gotten hit and, theoretically, so could the other guy.
c) There wasn't enough time once he realized what was going to happen.

d) he is an absolute pussy

I was just watching season 3 again, the part where Saunders tells Palmer to use the phrase - 'the sky is falling' in his press conference. After he uses it, I can't tell whether Saunders is annoyed at Palmer that he used it this way, and that the reason he gave him the phrase was in hopes of him using it in a serious way (my opinion) or whether Saunders is pleased that he used it in this way, as it gains his trust (sister's opinion).

It would be great if some of you guys could give your opinions :)

Today's episode wasn't that good. But I did enjoy next week's preview.

I rather enjoyed this week's episode. The only problem I find is that

I keep wondering when Jack is going to find out about his brother's involvement in last season's plot.

xman25

Yeah, this week's episode was "meh". Nothing really surprised me, to be honest >_> Oh well! Always next week!

Why does this season remind me more and more of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade?

Needs more Nazis.

VILLAINS FOR SEASON 7? ZOMBIE NAZIS?

If Jack Bauer finds the Holy Grail, the series is over.

I also agree that there was nothing much really going on in tonight's episode. I know the bad guys have had some holdups before, but this is starting to get a little ridiculous.

Karen Hayes resigning like that just didn't seem to work. She's like one of the strongest females on the show, so for her to just back down like that just didn't make any sense. And now that she's going back to CTU, I hope they don't try to make any Tony/Michelle-like situations like they did in Seasons 3 and 4.

Wasn't really anything else noteworthy tonight. I thought they were gonna end by revealing who McCartney's contact was, but since they didn't I guess it wasn't anyone we know (not really many people they could bring back anyway, and hardly anyone that could actually program nuclear triggers).

"Protecting family is important; I believe your dead wife would agree."

Damn, son.

There's a quote from the preview that was fucking awesome, but I can't use it until next week.

As said, not much tonight, but something big's gonna happen. The anticipation is growing. Fuck this week shit. Grr.

But that was said tonight. Graem said it sometime within the last ten minutes. I was gonna add it to the wiki myself, but by the time I thought about it I didn't remember the exact quote (I did add Karen Hayes's "son of a bitch" quote though, as that, along with Lennox's response, was pretty awesome as well).

I meant there was another quote said during the preview by Jack for next week.. related to pain. :tpg:

Also, with the departure of Karen Hayes, there is room for another bear to return... a POLAR BEAR. Yes, this guy is no joke; he's MIKE NOVICK.

Oh okay, I see what you mean. I know which one you're talking about, too.

Also, return of Mike Novick would be awesome. This season could use some of him, along with some AARON PIERCE.

This is the first season of 24 I've ever watched "live". I did catch Season 1 on DVD over the summer, and quite enjoyed it, but wasn't gung-ho enough about the show to bother renting the other seasons. I recently got Monday nigts off, so I figured I'd give it a shot.

After tonight's episode, I'm about ready to just bag it and maybe catch it all on DVD down the road sometime. Have the last 4 seasons been as mind-numbingly dull as this one is so far?

Nah this one was the most boring out of all 6 seasons I think

worst episode ever..

One thing I think Jack has over come this too quickly, I mean 2years of torture you would think he would have the shakes or something metally serious (come on they wont give Sutherland another award otherwise) he is just doing the same old thing again and again and again and..


probably not the worst episode, but overall it was boring and achieved nothing I mean the whole thing with the muslim group at the inlockment was a complete waste of time, seriously the whole series of events leading to that was garbage. :gonk:

Jack's dad is going to act as Jack's new side kick I bet, unless his brother kills him first, man that would piss Jack off so much that I want it to happen lol

This episode has a rushed feel to it, maybe thats reality but standard hit a new low.
New couple in the making Nardia and Miilo, but who really cares :eye:

The way Karen bows down to Lennox was completely lame, i mean at that level of the government the school bully still pushes everyone around. It was LAME. :rolleyes:

Promo for the 7th hour looks very promising, jack dishes out more abuse on his brother, you can feel the love lol

Lets see if Smallville can brighten up the rest of this week :eagletear:

OMG, Jack is a Monster!!! He's Crazy!!!! He threatened his own soldiers. Awesome twists in this episode. It definitely made up for last week's boring episode. Can't wait for next week's which is going to be 2 Hours!!

I heard a rumour on a website that they're going to make all the episodes a few minutes longer and change the name to 25, can anyone confirm this?

All you bitches and fags who said 24's writers were losing it can shut the fuck up and get the fuck out now. This episode was awesome, and they couldn't put this story in play without the past two episodes setting it up properly. I say the writers are doing fine.

This episode was better than the last, thankfully. But the twist with Morris was intriguing. I figured it was gonna be someone from the cast, but not him =I I did think it was lame at first that they were replaying the same drama thing that happened with Edgar (his mother being caught and he can't leave). Glad to see it wasn't a repeat of the plot element.

The last few minutes didn't really sneak up on me. I figured Jack's father had a hand in things. Didn't think he was THE badguy, but I figured he noticed something was up some time ago. Still, interesting to see :3

Glad to see that Wayne and his sister as well as Walid were at a minimum in this episode. I hate those characters so much ><

I did enjoy seeing Jack snap when his brother told him of the assassination stuff =D Very interesting. The trailer for next week looks fantastic. Two hours long? omg <3

Was the whole subplot with Walid and Sandra Palmer just meant to play Wayne into not backing Lennox's plan? Figured something would pop up amid the end, kinda like they found something important. Maybe not?

Also...

:tpg:

Man... one Bauer down. Well, that was a pretty huge ending. This episode was beast, as expected. The double Bauer hour next week is a bit earlier this season than last. Good stuff.

Yeah, this episode was definitely better, as the plot finally picked up (though it wasn't until about halfway through).

So yeah, Jack is crazy! Not like we haven't seen it before, but it's always good to see. After going through that though, it would have been great to see Jack get the satisfaction of killing Graem (or at least torturing him some more), but instead his Dad does it for reasons I'm still not even sure of. Seriously, I just don't find Phillip that interesting a character, but at least he seemed more convincing as a good guy, which is what they should have kept him as.

Finally glad to see Wayne get some backbone. The scene was pretty predictable, but it played out well nonetheless. I still don't expect him to be as good as his brother was, but at least he's becoming a good president in his own right.

And as for the Morris thing, it was an good twist, but I'm waiting to see how it plays out. Morris has always been kind of a shady character (doing somewhat illegal stuff when not at CTU, and even using that hacker program or whatever in this episode), so it will be interesting to see if he's actually willing to help Fayed out for the right price.

Two hours next week. Awesome. I doubt it will be as good as the two mid-season episodes they showed last season, but they still look like they be some of the best of the season so far. At least I hope they are.

Oh yeah. I was lollin' at that interrogation scene:

JACK GOING CRAAAAZY
*hugs brother*
"2 CCs!"
GOING CRAAAZY
"You will begin to experience pain I can't even begin to describe."
*hugs brother*
"2 CCs!"
"PICK UP THE SYRINGE! DO IT NOW!"
"4 CCs"
*hugs brother*
...

I believe it was just a red herring. Which I'm GLAD to see. As much as I love 24 one problem is that every lead has always seemed to be right on the money. Although something may happen to nullify it every lead has always seemed to at least be in the correct direction. I liked the dead-end. It also gives a bit of perspective to the audience in that everyone who the "good guys" go after aren't always the bad guys.

Specific reasons no, but it should have been obvious from what the father said. They were going to take his son back to CTU to be questioned. His son still had information that could incriminate him. He couldn't take that chance so he killed him.

I had a feeling an episode like this was going to happen. The previous two were the calm before the storm. I didn't post before because the bitching in the thread was getting on my nerves. 24 Has been quasi-formulaic the last 5 seasons. Always high paced. It's refreshing to still be presented with a high quality drama, but have the pace changed a bit.0

I think that this episode was more interesting. I knew that Jack's brother was gonna die sometime but I just never expected his father to do it although I had a sneaky feeling that Phillip Bauer had something to do with this.

Did you listen to the conversation that Philip had with Graem before killing him?

This clarifies the reason/s why he killed him. He knew that Graem was going to be put through further interrogation. This could potentially lead to him giving away philips involvement and/or other important information.

I'm betting Jack's nephew knows more than he's letting on. The resemblence to Kim is just too uncanny for him not to be a more important part of the plot later on.

Huh. No wonder the kid looks so horrid =p

Yeah, he's got a creepy Children of the Corn thing going on.

I'm really having a hard time trying to work out the point of this Rita bimbo. If she dosn't have an important role to play soon then I think she was quite a pointless character overall, but wait for it ...

... What if she was actually an undercover agent? Think about it, that would actually be quite a good twist, as there hasn't been anything, as far as i'm aware, that could prove otherwise :D

Are you talking about Marilyn, Graem's wife?

He's talking about Rita. The girl that's with the wealthy guy working with the terrorists.

I figured he kept her in the dark on what he did. But he pulls over Morris and uses her to help cuff him? Seemed a bit out of place or out of character from what I'd seen thus far. But we'll see!

How he kept an eye on her (like stopping her from going to the snack machine) made me think she didn't know very much and he didn't trust her too well.

Awesome episode, would been better they had this back to back with last weeks. Looking forward to next weeks.

I'm glad they made Jack kinda crazy, I thought it was really bad how the two years in china seemed to have little affect on him.

I agree I dont get the Rita girl, she seemed completely innocent to what was going on, then she cuffs o'brian up like she obviously knows what she is doing. Wait and see if she is actually undercover, but which organisation??

lastly I'm putting my money on the second nuke going off.

I'm curious how they'll get Morris to play ball. Maybe he'll make a killswitch for the detonator or something of the sort, and take advantage of it later? Either way, I'm sure he knows they'll kill him once they have all the nukes armed.

Yes I listened to it, and as Graem said, he proved he could take the pain by withstanding Jack's torture for as long as he did (only finally giving Jack some unrelated information to get him off his back). So if he could do that, that's obviously not the main reason why his dad killed him, meaning there is some other reason why he wanted him dead. That's what I got from it, anyway.

I wouldn't put it past 24 to leave the whole reason behind this set of villains (Jack's family) as "We needed to protect the company, dammit!"

It's been just as lame last season, with "we need to do it for America / Oil interests, etc..." right from the get-go, with no additional motive.

.....Is another motive really necessary?

I do hope they're not going to pull a "You destroyed our company with your operation in Kosovo" or something related to Kosovo this time.

But seriously, I'm curious as why Graem wants to kill Jack. Cause like he says, it isn't the first time he tries to kill him. If this is personal, I'm going to be so mad....

Anyways, it's beggining to get quite confusing as to who is behind all this and what's the point of all this. I can't wait to see the next week episode.

Two hours of Bauers tonight. It's a little earlier this year, but I remember almost dying on my trying to make it back for this epic event. There should be no such issue this time... hopefully. *knocks on wooden desk*

Oh, right, thanks for reminding me. Normally I DVR Prison Break, watch 24, then watch the DVR of Heroes, but I'm going to have to rearrange things tonight. I would have been really pissed off to turn on hour 2 of Bauer only to realize I hadn't watched the 1st hour.

Oof. It's an hour earlier, to boot =o I need to get my studying done early...

I officially love Palmer, mainly because he pissed in Lennox's conrnflakes which really gives me the warm fuzzy-wuzzies.

Disappointed that Morris will most likely snuff it. I quite like him.

Yeh same here, im enjoying the british charm

24 has rebranded "dun dun dun."

MILO FUCKING OWNS.

Looks like Kim Jr. just can't stay out of trouble.

Also, I like how Jack no longer needs doors.

I rather liked Milo's getaway. Refreshing that he isn't nervous under fire like Chloe, despite being a techie =p

Still, kinda mad at Graem's wife (whatever her name is) for not telling Jack what happened on the phone. Not like Jack would go "BLOL FUK NO. SCREW MY NEPHEW/POSSIBLE SON :mad:" Good to see that he gets pissed at her. And Morris.

I'm rather pleased that it's not pussyfooted around that Morris made the triggers. "O u were torcher'd. Who could blame u bro <3"

Laughin' about "Kim Jr" right now ='D

Note to self: stop watching the previews. =/

But reiterating all the major points of the episode, already stated:

• Jack with shotgun :tpg:
• Jack doesn't believe in doors, just like me
• WTF Morris
• Milo's beast
• o kim jr u
• I like how the fancy satellite tracking conveniently goes down to make things more intense.
• I like how NSA decides to stop tracking cell phone calls conveniently as well.
• Don't crumple the resignation sheet. Shred dat. =/
• "Dammit!"

Yeah, I shouldn't watch previews either =( Still waiting on Audrey to kick back in. But maybe Jack's immediate family is causing more than enough drama for most folks.

Awesome episodes. Jack owned. Palmer owned. Milo owned. Some pretty good twists. All in all, a pretty good two hours.

Nice to see Fayed actually do something, since he's pretty much done nothing since the nuke went off three hours ago. But with papa Bauer and Gredenko now doing the evil deeds, it looks like Fayed might be on the backburner again.

Interestingly, while not addressed in the show, Eric Balfour says that Milo has gotten some field training. I'll just post the excerpt from the interview featured in the lastest issue of the 24 Magazine.

So take that as you want. No matter what, the scene was still fucking awesome, and I hope he gets to do some more stuff like that later in the season.

http://www.fox.com/24/profiles/mp.htm It doesn't say so there, but I imagine any government agent no matter what they do, recieves a bit of field training.

Most of this was great. I only have one problem. If they were able to use infrared on a building earlier, why not use it on the house?

Also, CTU will be needed many new field agents when this season is over. I doubt they have many left.

They didn't have many agents left after the gas attack on CTU last season. After all this, CTU agents ought to get hazard pay just like civilians working in Iraq; seems like no matter where they are, the terrorists always kill most of them.

Wasn't it the double Bauer hour last season where that gas attack happened? In that case, we remember Edgar. One year ago (our time, kinda), you died. RIP.

On unrelated notes, gotta mention...

Graem Bauer will carry on the Bauer legacy. He will rise from the dead.

Also, still waiting on Heller to make his appearance. =p

Upon further thinking, I've come to the conclusion that they should've waited a week to do the two-hour special. It just seems like the flow between the last episode and the upcoming one is better.

I can agree with that. They were both good episodes, but there wasn't really anything about them that connected them too well beyond the typical show plots. They kind of did the same thing last year too. It would have been perfect if they showed the gas attack being carried out, and then them trying to stop it. I guess they wanted to end on something big though, which was Edgar's death.

Edgar's death didn't upset me. REALLY! =( Did it bum everyone else out real bad? 'Cuz his power-tripping bugged the hell outta me.

My guess would be that it would have taken to long to redirect the sat. to scan it.

Yeah, yesterday episodes were ok. Nothing too awesome which would be the greatest story punch ever.

I still think though that:



As for Kim Jr. -> good one :D, best 24 joke I heard this year.

man promo for next episode looks awesome!!

Damnit LOL has anyone seen this http://www.shoutfile.com/v/xrfEukeT/...auer_-_Damn_It

No comments yet? That was... pretty amazing.

Quite a nice episode =D Must say that I REALLY didn't see the last part of the episode coming (with former prez being the man Jack is to go to). I figured Lennox would have second-thoughts, just from how unsure he was about the whole situation. I'm guessing Fayed will be on the backburner for a while, though. Gridenko is numero uno for now. Fayed will probably be the bad guy again for the last half of the season.

Wonder if he's the dude behind Wayne Palmer's assassination attempt?

How do you figure that? It just.. doesn't compute.

This show never has all the cards on the table =p Anyhow, it's just a hunch.

And 24 has a habit of dividing bad guys in two groups. One in the first half of the season, the latter bad guys in the last half.

I'm sure they'll find Gridenko, but Fayed will probably have all the nukes by then and they'll need to track him down just before he uses them.

Just guessing, since the show is a bit formulaic.

Just stop wondering. Save yourself a headache: just make a bet, sit back, and watch. :p

Anyway, didn't see that end coming at all, though I was hoping for the third rising from the dead of Jack Bauer, this time from a bullet wound to the back of the head. Oh, well.

Pretty alright episode, though I have to admit, I'm getting kinda tired of the whole family angle now. It worked with Graem (I guess because of his connection with last season), but everyone else (Phillip, Marilyn, Josh) just seems to drag it out for no reason.

Logan coming back is awesome. Not that the people they have now aren't good, but 24 always makes returning characters seem even more awesome, regardless of whether they're good or bad. I can't wait to see what he brings to the story.

And sorry, but there's basically nothing they can do to make me feel sorry for Lennox. Eh, so he's not working with the people trying to get rid of the President. So what? He's such a fucking prick that I don't care, and honestly, he should have tried to do something earlier to stop them (he's not exactly an undecover agent, so he shouldn't even have tried to string those guys along). Hopefully we'll be able to say good riddance to him soon.

And what's with CTU this season? In seasons past, you could argue that it was the center point of the show, but now it's just there to provide artificial drama. Chloe is in like every freaking scene now (I like the character, but she's better in small doses rather than large chunks; and she's not even as quirky anymore, anyway), Nadia is severely underused (seriously, from the first few episodes, I thought she was a really important person at CTU, but now it's hard to even remember she's there unless she's in a scene), and Morris is just fucking annoying, now as depressed loser rather than the jealous lover of earlier this season. Buchanan is alright, though he too is a little underused. Milo is really the only interesting character there right now, so I hope they give him some more focus.

But I'm probably being a little too harsh. Anyway, next week looks like it'll be good, especially the stuff with Palmer and Logan.

Stop wondering? Then what's the point of this thread? =P

Less Morris, more Milo I say. I guess he won't go out in the field again, so rats :O I don't like how CTU has been worthless lately, though. Alternate leads aren't being used, and the storyline with Wayne seems to be slowly ongoing.

Jack's old man will probably crop up again later. Wonder what his aim was, though...

Shock and awe. :p For example: HOLY SHIT!

Oh, and awesome quoting: "Drop your weapon, or I will use mine!"

Or Jack's tutorial on how to use a gun: "You know how to use it? Point and shoot."

:tpg:

Great ep, but that really got me to Naz. What kind of line writing was that? At least say take the safety off or something lol.

I dunno, I thought last night's episode was pretty weak.
I also don't like the whole family dilemma but they got rid of it by bringing Logan back. I thought that was pretty dumb.
The only thing that got me excited was the twist on Tom. They lead you to believe he really would turn against the president since episode 1 but then he goes and contact SS and BAM that guy knocks him out. That scene just completely reversed my thoughts on Tom. I'm pretty sure that's what the producers wanted the audience to think too.

Now do you see why I disliked the episode everyone thought was great a few weeks ago? I knew this family connection would just lead to a divergent plot. There was absolutely no need for it.

I don't like that we don't get an explanation for Phil's departure nor his connection to Logan. Perhaps the latter comes next week along with Logan's connection to Gridenko.

This episode was a little disappointing, but not bad.

Phil's connection to Logan was spelled out last season, when Logan was taking orders from Graem. I'm more surprised that Logan managed to escape prison, unless he got a pardon from Wayne.

I can offer a pretty reasonable explanation for Jack's dad leaving.

Don't forget what he's touted all along. "He's a patriot". He's no different than the terrorists, it's just that he's backing the US. He probably realized that he's lost all of his power. His comany is a government target, so any of his would-be contacts probably view him as radioactive. Whether he likes his son's choices, methods, or association with the government he's smart enough to know that Jack has a better chance of stopping the crisis than he does. Think about it. What does he have to gain by killing Jack? Jack's potiential to stop the bombs is worth many many times more than his revenge, or other retalitory emotion. Furthermore, he can still use what little resources he has with or without killing Jack. His death just wasn't necessary.

Lastly, I don't understand the bitching about the family angle. Most of the past 24 episodes have Jack behaving like little more than a sentinel. While I certainly don't want a soap opera I don't see what's wrong with bringing a little humanity to the main character. Perhaps the word "humanity" isn't the precise word, but all action isn't a good thing either. It's good to see internal conflict, and friction which can't be quelled by gunshots. Each season may only be a day, but it's a little cold to have a recourring characher with 0 back story.

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I doubt Logan was jailed per se. He had the book thrown at him in private, but if his connection to the shitstorm in S5 got out, the presidency would've been ruined. It could've been done behind closed doors and the public was exposed to some bogus story. Or maybe he stepped down due to stress, supposedly.

He probably is moreso under house arrest of sorts, presently. But I could very well be wrong. You'll notice, though, that Jack's response to him wasn't along the lines of "why aren't you still in jail".

Wasn't Logan arrested during a press conference? That precludes him from just resigning due to stress. I'm sure they were able to cover up some of his involvement in S5, but there must have been some public punishment.

Well, Jack doesn't know any more than we do what happened to Logan. Remember, 2 years in Chinese prison, straight after Logan gets taken away?

I guess my question at this point should be, "Assuming the former President has helpful information, why didn't Phil go to Logan?"

Yes, internal conflict is good. I've seen very little of that in regards to the Bauer family. It is good to have friction. CTU stories thrive on it. But must Jack's family bring nothing but friction? Must his brother and father be terrorists? Jack has some back story, but this stuff with his "family" isn't really adding anything to his character.

Yeah, but it wasn't like they came up and put him in cuffs, they just took him away, which to the public wouldn't appear abnormal

Great, now on top of everything else, I have to worry about Chloe busting in while I'm in the restroom.

<3

So, what I learned from today's episode: Victoria's Secret is the sexiest lingerie in the world. They also keep reinventing the bra. I can only conclude that women keep inventing new boobs.

Jack pretty much took hour to dress up. Probably went to the bathroom too. I've never seen this before. What the hell?

K, DVR'd Heroes time.

Yeah, this was the biggest "setup for another episode, nothing happens in this one" ever.

Everything that happened in this episode was already summarized in the previous episode's "next week" preview.

Speaking of previews, next week doesn't look too exciting either.

10-ft blast radius my ass.

He forgot to carry a "one" when he was pulling together the radius =o

Nothing exciting. Not much Jack, a lot of the politicians. I'd prefer more Jack... And next week looks like it'll deliver. Which is nifty :3

Seriously.

I'm not saying less focus on Jack is necessarily a bad thing, but if that focus is put on some crappy Morris plotline that needed to end two episodes ago, it is. Even the Palmer stuff, which honestly wasn't that much better, was at least was needed plotwise. More and more I'm seeing the introduction of Morris as a bad thing. At least the Jack/Logan stuff was awesome, what little of it there was.

My main question is will Lennox die? He should've known that his assisstant was going to turn on him. Anyway, I was hoping to see a bit more of Jack in this episode. :( But at least we'll get to see if he cuts off one of the Russian Consolate's fingers.

11th hour - Zzzzzzzz

58th minute - KABOOM!

man i waited 45minutes for that!! :rolleyes:

They should of had Jack shave his beard off in this episode, would of made alot more sense!

At this point, I am about 95% sure that I will either not watch next season at all, and just stop watching the show completely(which I don't want to have to do, but I just might), or I will just not watch next season at all on tv, and just watch it all at one time on Blu-ray/HD-dvd(no dvd, because I want High Def), when it is released.

I will continue watching this season until it is over since I already invested this much time, but after that, I'm not sure at this point. I'm just bored by this show now. Almost everything is predictable, and I hate literally every single character on this show now, including Jack Bauer. Words can barely describe how much I used to love this show, but at this point, I wish they would just have a series finale already, and put me out of my misery.

Yeah this was like really boring. It's not getting anywhere. I didn't learn anything that was important.

I can imagine the writers being around a table and pitching ideas:

-Should we kill a character to make it seem more dramatic than it is? (Cause a major character always dies/disappears in each season)
-Should we bring back a character from a previous season which was involved in the plot but it wasn't completely explained?
-Should we mix a Kosovo related story and tie it with russians, middle-east bad guys and corrupt americans?
-People liked Kim, shoudl we call her back and do something like the cougar scene?
-Let's get Bauer's family implicated in all this since Kim disappeared with Barry...
-As always, let's create division among CTU members (read here "couple") about someone saying someone else isn't fit for the operation because of what they just went through?

Ah....I could go on like this...

Current episode spoilers: **Hidden Content**

I admit, I figured Jack would've called before moving =( Oh well.

I'm curious... There's a new head to Field Ops? We'll see how this goes. He's most likely Curtis' replacement. Wonder how he'll mesh with Jack?... The replacement in S4 bashed heads with him and ended up dead later on ;3 Wonder if this guy will have more sense.

Also, how does Logan get around to visiting his wife and Aaron?

Well... this is definitely not something we've seen before. No idea yet if this is war with a faction or a nation, but... wow.

This episode pretty much raised one important question for me:

Is Jack Bauer ever not on line one?

I gotta say, most of this episode was pretty bland. Aside from the part when Jack was trying to get the info from the Russian dude, I would almost say this was downright boring. All the political stuff was especially uninteresting, since there really are no more characters left that we know/care about.

At least next week looks good, though.

But we had the introduction of Kari Matchett. <3

She's definitely evil. I vote for her. What's her character? Lisa, right? Gotta lynch dat.

Yeah, I got a bad feeling when I first saw her. She does have an evil vibe about her.

xman25

That's because she was on Invasion and became an alien.

I never watched Invasion.

xman25

I'm just wondering how they'll cover up an invasion on the consulate. Perhaps approval from Moscow for the action? I don't think they'll be able to (try and) covert it up like they did with the Chinese consulate back then.

In any case, guns and action next week! Woo!

Also, my love for 24 increased since I realized how valuable their nonstop season policy is. I have to wait a month for my next episode of Heroes =/

Well, the VP insisted that Jack was acting on his own, but they had reason to believe that this Russian has ties to Gridenko. If they can prove it (via Jack's intel), then the Ruskies will probably back off.

Plus, Jack hasn't killed anyone. That was the huge no-no involving the Chinese consulate thing -- the consul got killed in friendly fire. Plus, any proof to justify their break-in died with the Chinese fellow they abducted.

If this episode could've been as decently timed and well-executed as the last fifteen minutes, I would've liked it a lot more, I think.

Yeah, this ep was pretty dull IMHO. Not enough parts involving Jack beating the shit out of people =Y

The whole Martha thing was just stupid. I'd rather they hadn't brought the characters back at all then give us this ridiculous attempt at closure. By the way, if Martha is a recovering alcoholic, why is there a rack of wine glasses in her kitchen?

Seriously though, next time somebody annoying at work starts talking to me, I'm just going to say, "I'm feeling ambivalent" and walk away.

Meh.

Martha handling that knife prior to the out-of-nowhere stab was actually one of the most intense scenes this season. :tpg:

Jack's on pace for a record low kill count in a single day. =/

I hope you're not serious. They kept zooming in on various knives, so you knew she was going to do it. But killing him with a lousy paring knife? Come on. Besides, what kind of nuthouse is she committed to that they let her have alcohol and knives?

Ah, the episode worked out fine for me. As usual, the politics, while important for the storylines, still seems out of place. Unfortunate, yes, but I'm hoping it'll tie in a *bit* stronger into the main storyline. I'd hate to see all the work in DC go to waste like the whole "Kim is missing" storyline from Season 2.

Bad news for Charles could have been seen a mile away. I was only half paying attention to that scene and I could still see the shots on the knife every now and then.

A quite Jack-light episode this time around.

I thought this episode was Ok. I quite like the introduction of the new character in CTU - Mike Doyle, the new head of Field Ops. I prefer this style of introducing characters rather than revisiting old annoying ones such as Martha Logan.

Of course I'm serious. ^^ Yeah you knew she was gonna do something. That's why it was intense. Plus, was she gonna cut some of her own fingers off too? She was in crazy mode! It would've been ridiculous. But for real, for the season: it was [sadly] one of the most intense moments. :p

Due to Jack being somewhat free and this new head of Field Ops seemingly coming out of nowhere, I felt like I'd missed an episode.

Well, Curtis was killed and they needed a replacement. A moving-up in the hierarchy was expected, I'm sure, since Jack is far from being an official head of Field Ops (although I'm sure he's way better than Doyle). I'm sure he and Jack will butt heads and Doyle will get killed. I don't think they'd keep a character around who as much of a douche as he is.

Well, they kept Ryan Chappelle around for three seasons, so you never know.

I thought this episode was just average, but it wasn't even a smooth average. It was more like half the episode was extreme sucktitude, and the other half was extreme awesomeness. I officially do not care about any of the political stuff anymore, as every character there sucks, including this Craig T. Nelson look-a-like they have as the Vice President. All the stuff at the Russian consulate was awesome though.

But then again, all the stuff at CTU sucked, and so did the Martha Logan stuff. Aside from their attempts to create more artificial drama with Doyle, I thought he was actually alright, so I wouldn't mind if he stuck around for a while (at least long enough to fight alongside Jack at least once). But all the Martha stuff was predictable garbage. Seriously, my main gripe about that was that they played into what the fans wanted and actually made Martha and Aaron a couple, which just seems stupid to me (wasn't he married with kids and stuff anyway?).

Oh yeah, I failed to make a comment about Doyle.

Yeah, so I had a dream that he was played by Chuck Norris...

It's funny how Rick Schroeder is taking all these tough guy roles to leave his child star image behind. He could be a good character if they don't go completely overboard with his assholery.

Every character on the show now is an overblown caricature. The vice president is a warmonger (with that Texas Yosemite Sam attitude), evil russian diplomats, crazy homicidal first lady, Jack Bauer, etc. We wouldn't have Jack any other way, but for everyone's character to be going to the extreme of their personality just doesn't make sense.

These episodes are kinda slow....
I don't like the new guy, Doyle and
LOL @ Martha. "What is this? I should be awarded a metal."

This episode pissed me off something awful. Audrey is dead? They made it sound uncertain when they mentioned ID'ing of her remains, so I hope this is some coverup and she's being held somewhere. Amid Jack's myriad of bimbos he boinked in the past, I liked Audrey's character and development. Just dropping her like that is irritating.

She was in China messing around and probably got some people mad at her as a result, but there might be the off-chance she is just being held. I dunno, the way they detailed her death sounded sketchy. But we'll see. If she really is dead, I'll be quite angry with the show. I liked her character =(

Plus, I know the show is formulaic, but a mole inside of CTU in almost every single season? Come ON.

Somehow I doubt Audrey is dead? Burned beyond recognition in a car crash? Come on, that just screams "Audrey's in a Chinese prison". This episode did suck pretty bad, though. Lots of tense meetings and ominous discussion, but not a whole lot of action.

Also, "untold environmental damage". EPA finally gets to shine on 24. :)

I just find it odd that someone would die off-camera/scene when they're as major as her. If she IS dead, I'm mad.

I too find it hard to believe Audrey's dead. Personally, I think she'll eventually pop back up into the show but probably towards the end, which will create another insane cliffhanger ended to the season.

Also, I told my brother that Nadia would be the mole weeeeeell before tonight. It was so predictable. She was basically the only new character in CTU! Although, I think it's likely she's being set up.

Good point. I told my mom almost the exact samething when she asked if President Logan was dead. I told her, "If you don't see him die, he's not dead!"

Jack Bauer's gonna start cutting himself. =/

I doubt she's dead too. It might be a story that picks up at the end of this day maybe for a later season.

Anyway, I agree with evil, I mean Plarom. Nadia's probably being set up, and Milo wants to bang her.

So I think everybody is in agreement that Audrey isn't dead. It just seems stupid in the context of the show, and the fact that Kim Raver is available since The Nine hasn't even been filming in like the last four months (and has been all but officially cancelled) makes it seem even less likely that she's officially dead. This just served as a way of bringing her back into the plot as far as I'm concerned.

As for the rest of the show, Doyle is looking to be a cracked-up Jack Bauer wannabe, Daniels has to be the stupidest person to ever be put in power (but seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if someone (like a Kingsley-type person) has their hand in his pocket), and Nadia most likely isn't a mole (and to echo naz, Milo wants to bang her).

Me thinks they focused in a little bit too long on the photo of Audrey's hand sticking out under the sheet. Hmm?

I'd like to see how they connect nuclear attacks on US soil to Audrey's death in China however. Now that'll be something.

Another somewhat Jack lite episode. I swear, I'm wondering if they're picking the two scenes he's in and showing them in the next episode previews.

Awesome face by Tom when Daniels told him they were going to launch the nuclear missile anyway. Haha, classic. I think I have a new avatar.

I think they focused on the hand to show the condition the corpse was in, rather than something fishy =o

Can 24 stop wussing out and finally name whatever middle-eastern country we're going to nuke? In every season involving muslims, they just say "that country" without ever naming them. Sure, we can blame China and Russia, but heaven forbid we mention Iran or Pakistan sponsoring terrorism, because they might riot. Hell, just make up a country, just so they can stop skirting around the issue.

Also, I'm betting the Audrey thing is the basis for next season (maybe he'll finally leave LA). There's just not enough time left this year for him to get revenge/clear up the mystery.

No i can kinda understand not saying what country, the risk for public outcry is too great.

Personally I thought this episode was much much better than the previous few weeks, even though Jack wasnt the focus.
I dont believe Audry is dead either, but what Jack says makes me wish there was some truth behind it. I just want a season of Jack anywhere other than in the USA. Going alone out in China to rescue or hunt Audry's killer, sound like the best season to me.

What is up with the writers? They have been pretty disastrous throughout most of the season, particularly the last few episodes, bringing back Martha just to kill Logan, rendering all of her story in season 5 useless. But come on, NO mention of Logan in this episode at all, after everything that happened last episode?
That is awful.

calm down its only been an hour

I'm sure the 24 staff wasn't looking for any backlash similar to the Muhammad cartoon controversy. Safe than sorry.

Not a bad episode yesterday, the 'mentally disabled' plot turned out better than I thought it would. Did anyone find it funny though when Bradey suddenly spoke perfectly well for about 2 seconds when mentioning about the firewall crap?

No, he was a savant, so that's not unusual. I was grimacing though, because on top of everything else he's done, now Jack is exploiting a mentally handicapped person. Way to go. It's blasphemous to say this, I know, but maybe 24 has jumped the shark.

The whole bit with Wayne Palmer at the end, while incredibly satisfying, was so predictable. This season seems to be recycling old plots, first with storming the embassy, and now with trying to remove the President on medical grounds. Come on, can't we get some new material?

I didn't like the first half of the episode, largely because it dealt with the internal drama built around CTU and the White House.

Then we actually made progress on the task as hand, which was quite nice. It's sad to see that the political troubles are not over, as that's my least favorite part of this season. I'd rather watch more Kim adventures.

Palmer coming to at the end and calling off the strike was awesome. I didn't see it coming to be honest. I forgot about Palmer after he had troubles when coming out of the coma.

Anyhow~ Seems Yosemite Sam (president) is gonna try and oust Palmer from his position. They tried doing this to his older brother, so I'm kinda like "huh what. Again?"

Next ep's preview seems to show a firefight, or at least one starting. We'll see how this rolls along.

Does anyone else have the feeling that the writers will do the same thing with Nadia this season that they did with Nina during season 1: make her look guilty, make her look innocent, and then have her be guilty.

xman25

Although I definately think this is one of the worse seasons, I do like the rivalry between the two main terrorists. Usually they focus just on the one main baddie :)

'Sup zombie serum~

ZOMBIES ATE MY TERRORISTS

Kind of off topic, but did anybody catch the new South Park today. I lol'd.

"THERE IS A SNUKE IN HER SNATCH."

So yeah, I'm really late in talking about this episode (even with th crash), which just goes to show how much I liked it.

Seriously, I could bitch in detail about why I didn't like it, but that would take too much effort that isn't even worth it. The main thing was that even when the episode had one saving grace in Palmer coming to the rescue, they ruin it by reusing an old plotline afterwards. Ugh. I'm still hoping this season can get better somehow, but really, I don't see how that can happen (maybe Zombie Almeida).

But yeah, that episode of South Park was hilarious. That maybe be my second favorite episode ever (because nothing will ever top Chinpokomon).

I liked the applejuice parallel to Jack's drug problem. Then the constant takeovers ='D Awesome ep, but a good amount of the humor was inside jokes that only fans would've caught.

The CTU phone sound effect was the best part of the episode. Kyle in the Chloe role was fine, but why did they have to make Cartman Jack Bauer?

I dunno. The bad guy blowing up in a corny explosion was worth a laugh ='D DEATH MUST BE OVER-THE-TOP.

So how bad is the episode going to be tonight? More Supreme Court perjury action? I predict the climactic event they've been touting in the commercial happens in the last 5 seconds.

I like how Season 6 suddenly turned awesome in one episode.

Palmer bluffing was something I really didn't see coming. I figured it was odd how he had a 180, but figured it was from brain trauma thanks to the adrenaline shot. It was a nice little trick~

Finally, a scene of Jack kicking unexpected levels of ass. When I saw the preview last week, I figured that Jack getting plugged would've been in the last couple minutes of the episode. Was like "sigh." Then he gets plugged, and it's unveiled as a staged op? Fucking awesome.

The fake cell helping out Fayed was a slick plan, as well as the duress-code. I figured that Jack would've arrived on-site and got captured. He didn't call in and I figured it'd come back to bite him in the ass. Not so~

The fight scene with Fayed and his men was fantastic. I also like how you saw Jack pick up his handgun he left behind after it all. Nice little touch =p

But Audrey getting unraveled in this season wasn't what I was expecting. This is good though -- I didn't want to wait another year to see this plot device get tended to. I figured there'd be more stuff with Fayed and the nukes, but it seems to focus on tying off Jack's troubles with the Chinese. I'm guessing they want the nukes or nuke detonators. Either way, this'll be cool.

"Mr. President, you owe me." ;D

"Damn, Jack..." <3 Sums up what I've been waiting on someone to say to Jack after all these seasons.

I didn't see them completely ending the Fayed and the nukes plot this episode, they were leading us to believe that #2 would take over and Audrey whould be brought back as an end of season cliffhanger. Great action, “say hello to your brother”, “Damn Jack”. I like how they tied everything back to the events of the beginning of the day, makes the episode feel like it actually part of one long day, these little thing help a lot with suspension of disbelief. I suspected Palmer may be have been bluffing but the writers kept me guessing. Little brother Wayne growing up; CTU’s fake rescue plan; Jack taking down a whole bunch of baddies; a new direction for the reminder of the season; significant redemption of a sub-par season;Good episode.

That episode was miles away from the rest of the season. My only complaint is that some of this stuff, like the staged terrorist group and the satellite tracking of the truck, lacked explanation or enough detail. But it really doesn't matter because the awesomeness of most of the rest overrides it.

As soon as Jack grabbed that chain, I knew he was going to John McLane Fayed's Karl.

Also:

The past few episodes were really downhill for me but this episode picked the season back up strongly. The nuke bluff was awesome!! Jack killed two guys with one shot. And when Jack got the phone call I kept thinking, "It's Kim on the phone" but then it turns out to be Audrey. Wow, excellent surprise ending for the episode.

The scene when Jack ran out of bullets and marched up to Fayed and he was shooting at Jack, that part reminded me of a scene from a Korean movie called "Windstruck". It was great. I was thinking, "Robocop!!" If you saw "Windstruck" then you'll get why I was thinking that otherwise never mind.

Holy shit. This episode REALLY picked up the slack that was starting to build this season. A bluffed nuke strike, an unexpected rescue mission, Jack finally killing people (single handedly, at that), and the death of the main villain, and an entire plot twist (or turn, I guess). Did not see any of that coming.

But how the hell did Fayed kill an entire truck of armed men, especially with the gun tucked away in his pocket. All of the CTU agents had their guns cocked and ready. Oh well.

What the hell do the Chinese want? The nukes? Are we going to finally find out what exactly had to be done for China's cooperation in Jack's release?

Haha, I need some more dramatic music for that hand to hand Jack and Fayed engaged in. Nonetheless, the last two episodes have been fantastic, definitely increasing the overall enjoyment of this season.

I'm all for another great plot twist. I'm guessing that the Chinese want something involving the nukes? Hopefully it ties in (loosely) with the main storyline...I'd hate to see just some storyline tacked on for the sake of completing the 24 episode run.

I think it was because they only had fake bullets in there guns and Fayed had real bullets in his gun.

Wow! I just loved the most recent episode and I'm also glad that Nadia seems to be getting more air time than Chloe. I got tired of her a while ago.

I also really liked the fight between Fayed and Jack, it was very gritty. BTW, does anyone know why jack killed Fayed? He could have just restrained him for arrest which I expected him to do.

Why take any chances that he could escape with the nukes or just get away. Besides after what he pulled at the bigging of that day jack just wanted some revenge.

No. Chloe has more personality in her pinky finger than Nadia has in her whole body. The character is there so the writers can say, "Hey, not all of the Muslim characters in 24 are evil!" The argument between Nadia and Milo was so contrived; it just doesn't seem plausible for Milo to get that worked up with jealousy over such a simple thing.

That being said, this episode was miles better than the dreck we've gotten the past few weeks. The climactic scene with Fayed is possibly the best scene ever, and we get the whole nuclear plot line wrapped up early. I can't imagine the Chinese want something related to the nuclear bombs, considering they already possess nuclear technology. Whatever they want, it's probably just a pretext to lure Jack back into their custody.

Jack is so shit-hot now: he's saved the world in ony 17 hours!!!

Now he's got a whole seven to save his girl and I'll bet he'll do it without taking a dump or grabbing a bite to eat!! :)

And she's hotter!!!

That pic is so horribly airbrushed, it's awful. Not to mention how silly it looks.

Great episode. Lots of Jack awesomeness too. Coincidence, I think not.

<3 Jack

I'm glad they ended that lame nuke storyline.

But I can't wait to find out in what ridiculous way they are going to explain why the Chinese would kidnap Audrey. This season started out with Jack being released from the Chinese prison because the US paid tons of money to China to have him release so that Fayed could kill him. But for some reason, the Chinese kidnapped Audrey a year or whatever previous to that? Why? It makes no sense(which is nothing new). And I love that the Chinese dude called Jack literally 1 minute after the nuke threat ended, what great timing!

At least I still have 2 well written shows back on the air now to fall back on. The Shield and The Sopranos.

It makes perfect sense, the writers have already more or less told us the reason they kidnapped her, she was sniffing around areas were the Chinese wouldn’t want her to be sniffing hence the need to make her disappear but her being the daughter of the secretary of defense, and forgot what ever position she had at CTU “DOD liaison?” she seemed like a pretty good barging chip to keep alive/ torture for information, hence instead of simply killing her they faked her death and kept her alive. What ever they are doing today (I hope at least) has nothing to do with why they kidnapped her a year ago, or Jack’s release, they just saw an opportunity to gain something and are playing Audrey card they had up thier sleave in order to get it.

That or they noticed that physical torture did nothing to Jack. They're probably hoping that Audrey will make him snap and tell them whatever. But I'm guessing they want the suitcase nukes. Why else in the preview was everyone pointing their guns at him? =p

Im just glad the nuke plot is over, though i would of liked another nuke to go off to make it more interesting.

Jack only has 7hrs to save audrey, this im looking foward too.

At who? Jack? Cool. Jack hasn't "gone rogue" in a while I guess it was due :p

Good episode, especially nice music during Fayed's death. Why on Earth did Fayed go to the bombs though after the incident at the tunnel? Surely he'd know he would be easily tracked seeing as that side-room is the only place he'd be able to end up.

If it wasn't for Jack, Fayed would've gotten away though =o Also, what else could he do? He caught the duress code, so he figured they were using him. He did the best thing possible, really!

Well, it would have probably been smatter to if he just told his men to each take a nuke, split up and blow up the most populated place they could reach. Fayed would have been better off using himself as a decoy instead of actually going back for the nukes himself, this would have completely eliminated the risk of CTU tracking him, but hey even terrorist masterminds make mistakes.

You cant do that without a phone, and even if he found a pay phone, CTU would of been all over that, with Wayne Palmer on line 2 listening in. :tpg:

man this show is getting predicatable :eye:

1 stolen cell phone and 1 text message later everything would have been set. If jack can just snag a car with a fully charged cell phone right after he escaped from fayed then so can he.

He already had a cell phone he snagged it off the maintenance truck guy, guess you missed the little part were he said: "I’m on my way to you now" on it. You can check the official episode guide on fox.com at 10:45pm Fayed definitely had a phone.

The staged rescue was a parallel to the staged rescue that the Chinese set up while Jack was in Chinese prison, to trick him into blowing an undercover agent's cover, since Jack wouldn't respond to the torture. Since it actually worked on Jack, I guess he figured maybe it would work on Fayed.

This is found in the ten minute prelude to season 6 that is on the last disc of the season 5 dvds.

Exactly! It had us fooled until Jack and Ricky Schroder (Christ why put a child-star into an action role) woke up.

My problem, though, is that unless this idea was already in the works earlier than the episode it was used and maybe even the episode before it, I don't think the amount of time allows them to set one up that successfully.

I must say Cheng Zhi is beggining to take his place as "The 24 bad guy".

He is persistend in trying to make Jack suffer. I don't know the reason but I'm guessing this will end in blood. Cause Jack is awesome and he's going to eventually kill him in some awesome way.

This week's episode was memorable for two things:

-Jack killing all those bad guys
-Jack making a phone call from under a garbage truck.

Simply awesome...:rolleyes:

I enjoyed this weeks episode, thought the wayne palmer bit was obvious though.
So the nuke story isnt completely over, but this plot is much more interesting than islamic terrorists. I'm praying for the ultimate showdown between Jack & Cheng Zhi!!

I expected it too, but thought it played out really well.

I've read spoilers for the season finale, and it looks like it's going to be quite a shock. It should hopefully set up the next season as something a bit 'different'.

Wow! Loved the music that was played when he pointed the gun at Doyle inside the car ^^

yeh i noticed that too, best music i've heard so far in the series.

I didn't notice the music =( 24's BGM is often too silent or unnoticeable for me at times so I don't pick up on it typically when it plays. Now I feel disappointed that I didn't hear the tune.

I noticed it too, not bad. I must admit the only thing I look forward to this season is the final cutscene music. From what I remember, episode 2, last weeks, and this weeks episode had the best :)

I always like the bit of music that they played during the recent re-cap of last week's episode. The music for this show is awesome all the way around!

Ditto. I remember some music from season 1, played during the recap of Jack storming Gaynes' compound and killing him, that was awesome. Sounds very similar to the music in Rainbow Six Vegas which I am currently battling my way through :)

Anyone know if Callery is releasing a Season 6 album this year or will we most likely have to wait until after Season 7?

He seems to wait after two seasons, so I guess you might be right.

Aw. Figured Audrey was probably scarred, but I didn't think she was mentally defective =( Huge bummer.

And Bill getting fired got under my skin. The whole procedure was legit (the fact that Bill let Fayed get away when he wasn't a big-name-player), I figured. Ahh well. Next week: more of CTU getting in Jack's way =Y

Something tells me that the writers should have gone with the Chinese from the start of the season.

xman25

I have a feeling Bill will get his job back...

Audrey's state of mind is unfortunate, but I think she will pull through.

As for the spy... I think it's Doyle. He's the only one I've never really had a good feeling about, and I've always suspected he would reveal his true intentions soon.

I think the spy they mention in the preview is inside the administration. Maybe Daniels or his girl? But I guess that a true bad-guy president has been done before (Logan).

Probably =o

Good job with the spoilers guys, thanks.

It's what we do in this thread... >__>;

lol if she manages to return to normal by the 24hr, then that will just be plan stupid.

Finally 24 is getting back in motion

Man vice president getting off like that, creeped me out :twitch:

I agree music was top notch. Had to rewatch last weeks ending just for the cool music. Need that on mp3

It just makes President Palmer seem that much more normal. Really, who hasn't come back from sick leave to find that their horny co-worker had sex on their desk?

I have a feeling Nadia's gonna be the mole... Then again, it could be the Vice President's assistant Kari Matchett. They both seem suspicous.

Well, I'm glad things are picking up in 24. It's gonna be really hard having to switch between this and Heroes. I don't have TiVo or some other means of recording Heroes. I might as well watch it online or wait for whenever a DVD set of that comes out.

Ahh, so Audrey's back and with CTU, but she's all whacked out and shit. She better not miraculously come back to a sane state of mind like that autistic guy who went into a sane state of mind for a split second telling Jack about the coordinates he was going to give Gredenko. Oh well, I liked Kim Raver best on Third Watch. Anyone else used to watch that show? It was a cool show. The series ending was really good.

You think things are picking up? I must say i've hated this season, and the whole idea of the president sanctioning the risk of starting another war just to save one agent is ridiculous. Remember season 1? Jack in the DOD base, George unable to get him out because he's apparently 'expendable', I find this whole thing ridiculous but i'll keep watching.

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I found that strange too, I mentioned it a while back but was put into my place by Nuttyturnip :)

Is it just me or did this week's episode rock?

If you just close your mind to the absurdity of the plot and enjoy Jack's body count, the episode was awesome. Why does Child of the Corn have to play such a big role, though?

The sleeping-with-a-spy plot was used in an earlier season already. Although, instead of sleeping with the guy, she knifed him >_> o wl.

Maybe next season will pan out okay. I felt S3 blew chunks, so maybe there's just bad luck with multiples of "3". Lookin' forward to S7...? =p

Defintely. My biggest problem was with the lockdown. Why don't they have electronic locks in this place? When the guy was going over to manually lock the door, it seemed pretty fucking stupid, especially after they were able to seal all the doors quickly last season during the Sentox attack. But whatever, other than that, all the CTU stuff was pretty awesome.

Except Milo. It seemed kinda pointless to even bring him back if they're just gonna kill him off, especially killing him off in the least coolest way possible (by the way, does the Silent Clock even exist anymore?). And since he did kinda bring down the beginning of the season with the whole Chloe-Morris triangle thing, it seemed even more pointless to bring him back. Oh well, at least I can still get my Milo fix from the novels, where he's a better character than he was on the show this season.

I guess in general though, I kinda feel like the assualt on CTU is a copout for how terrinle this season has been. The writers know that attacks on CTU are always awesome, so they probably figured throwing one in towards the end of the season like this would help improve the show a little bit before it goes off this season. It was still awesome regardless, but it seemed kinda randomly thrown in rather than something intregal to the plot.

The books are decent? ;O How nifty is Milo in them?

Wonder who the "replacement" to CTU's Head will be (even though they probably won't be introduced this season). Maybe Driscoll will return?

Yes, the books are pretty decent, especially if Season 1 is your favorite season. The only real problem I would say they have is that they're very...flexible with the time factor. There's 24 chapters in each book, obviously, but sometimes a chapter will go from like 9:05pm to 9:55pm without anything really happening, and then the stuff that happens in that last five minutes couldn't even happen in five minutes in real time. Granted, it's a book, so it's obviously not going to be in real time, but they could have at least try to make it correspond to how it would be if it was.

Well, there are a few more problems as well. Some of the stuff in the books can be a little contradictory to the show sometimes (i.e. one of the books says Richard Walsh recruited Jack into CTU, even though the show said Christopher Henderson did), and it can be annoying sometimes (like I'm really supposed to believe Edgar was working at CTU since before Season 1). Also, the series has two different writers, and its obvious sometimes (one author usually writes more action-oriented stories, while the other usually writes more politically-oriented). This isn't that much of a problem, until they start introducing their own original characters. Basically, they'll be there in one book, then they'll be gone in the next, then they'll be back again in the next, since each author writes every other book. It would just make more sense if they tried to work together and make a cohseive universe.

As for Milo, I think he's been in every book so far, but his role varies. Most of the time he's just at CTU along with Jamie (she's so much better in book form, since you don't actually have to see her ugly face) doing the analyst thing, but in one of the books he actually went out and did some field work. Overall though, I think he's more awesome in the books than he is on the show, definitely better than he was in Season 6 anyway.

But yeah, they're only about $6 or so each, so you get your money's worth from them. It's also pretty cool to get some insight into some Season 1 characters that didn't come back, like Richard walsh and Teri Bauer, so that's a plus. For the most part, they are in chronological order, so you should start with the first book (Operation Hell Gate) if you do want to start reading the series.

The writers are really grasping at straws here. They're trying to find SOMETHING that will bring this season back to "awesomeness," but everything they've done in the past 6+ episodes has been just plain cliched AND contradictory.

-So now Papa Bauer wants his grandkid alive?
-So now the Chinese are FINE with starting international incidents (by attacking a major US anti-terrorism department), even when they were SO pissed that Jack just mildly had something to do with the death of a Chinese ambassador at their embassy. Talk about stupid double-standard.
-So now Heller is PISSED at Jack, the man who saved his life and the life of his daughter so many times. And last season, Heller was WRONG to doubt Jack when he took the recording for himself! You'd think he would have learned.

I really think the writers set up too many storylines, and have NO idea how to resolve any of them in a logical fashion. They should just nuke everything and start from scratch.

my fave season was allways season 2 so whats the book of that one like (if they made 1

Obviously "Kim Jr." has something special. I don't know why Jack's dad would risk all of this mission with the chineese only for Josh.



I can't wait for season finale since this is really going nowhere. Now can someone explain to me why a sewer grate passes right under CTU and leads directly to a water room?! And how is that, that CTU can get invaded so easily like in the past seasons?!

Jack has to own the chineese in some awesome way or I'm going to be pissed. PLus what the hell is with the writers and all these love triangles going around?!

Milo-Nadia-Mike
Morris - Chloé - Milo
The russian - the president adivsor - The president
Now there's only Tom - Karen - Bill missing...hopefully this is not going to happen...

It seems no one on this board has seen anything of spoilertalk.com...

Right, and I wouldn't want to.

Why waste any entertainment value by reading what's going to happen in a 2-sentence line rather than see it play out in front of you?

Maaan what the hell, cant believe its taken 15 episodes or so (since Jack tortures his brother) for some decent action to take place.

All the books are pre-Season 1, and are not based around any specific season. Of course, since they take place before Season 1, that's where the majority of the characters come from.

They're really kind of stretching all of these things happening beforehand though, so hopefully they start to base some of the novels between other times. Something between Seasons 2 and 3 would be good (I know 24: The Game covered this, but there's still plenty of other things left open during this time period).

Fairly interesting today.

Should't be another boring moment for the rest of the season.

Jack Bauer has got to stop taking phone calls from strange people. It's like his achilles heel.

Ugh, I thought this episode was terrible. Starting with Marilyn's hysterical crying (for someone who cares about her kid, she sure was trying her best to get herself killed) and that totally unbelieveable takedown of the terrorists, this episode just kept going further and further downhill.

I mean seriously, their reason for bringing Jack's dad back was to make him crazy? God. And all the stuff with the president is just stupid as well. I honestly can wait until next week, because I'm in no rush to see what happens next, something I've never said about a season finale before.

I actually groaned when they said it was going to be a two hour finale, because I just want this season to be over. I'm much more pumped about the Heroes finale, and I didn't think I'd be saying that when this season started.

The premiere really pumped us up into expecting a great season, then it just fell flat. I have no idea how they'll come up with a remotely believable plot for next season, considering they're already resorting to recycling plot elements this year.

Kinda "wtf'd" at how Nadia grappled with a big Chinese dude. Figured he'd snap the poor girl in two =(

Also, how did Doyle know to come back and help out?

With this season, does it really matter?

xman25

He realized that he couldn't contact CTU and that they hadn't provided an update? It had been a while since we saw him last. I think he jsut deduced that there was a problem and came back to check. With no leads where they were, I guess he didn't see the harm.

I'd still put money that one of the "big twists" next week is that Uncle Jack is really Papa Jack. Maybe Kim will come back and they'll all be eaten by mountain lions in the shocking finale.

I've got to remember to set my Tivo for that.

I think I'm more scared about the additional 2 seasons that Fox has ordered of 24. At least they're going to finally get out of LA, and cast changes (again), but I'm not sure how they'll deal with lack of new plot ideas. Once you set off a nuclear bomb, there's not much more terror you can create.

Hmm. Point made on Doyle's random return >__>

I still think Jack shoulda plugged the Chinese fellow in the leg or something. I just KNEW he'd get away.

2hr episode next week surprised me. Thought there was only one ep left =o Well... Maybe it'll somehow redeem itself with a nice cliffhanger/ending. Thought I'm sure it'll be a cliffhanger. Poor Jack never rests :( Season 2 or 3 was the last one that had an "o yay. Happy~" sorta season ending.

Edit:: They're moving from LA? Huh.

Well they could always tap a Neo-Nazi storyline =p Random terrorism scares as opposed to one big uber-bomb. Like one group leading offensives repeatedly on certain sites. That'd require lotsa of bodycount++ from Jack =D

I don't like the way this season's going since they secured the Nukes. Wouldn't the Russkies be a bit more worried about protecting themselves from China now rather than weakening themselves by going to war with the US?

If you constuct a Bank or some "secure building" over an open sewer area like under CTU, it gets filled in and diverted or sewage is streamed through a series of inaccessable narrow pipes to prevent the sort of thing the Chineese did.

Milo was cool. I'll miss him...

The last episode was most probably good for one thing: Jack killings.

Other than that I was f***cking mad at him for not being able to kill Cheng. I mean he's starting to be like the villain that always gets away and that will never be caught. Just like Inspector Gadget against dr. Mad.

Anyway, I have to agree that this story with Jack's family having the fate of the world in their hands plot, is really bad.

Better be some explosive action for the finale...

Looking forward to tonight (well tomorrow), lets see if the spoilers i've read play out.

I think I'm going to watch Heroes and DVR the double Bauer hour, which is the opposite of what I normally do. I'm just not very pumped for 24.

It was alright, but seriously, there was not enough time Jack Bauer. He was only in like two scenes, and one of them had already been showed through commercials. I liked the rest of the 24 aspects of the episode, but it was ripoff in the Jack Bauer department (and even more in the Chloe department). Then again, it's really not that much different than how this season of 24 has played out (lack of Jack for the lose).

And man, I haven't even caught up on Heroes (I'm still one episode behind), so that's not even an option for me. Is tonight's episode gonna be two hours like 24's season finale?

=(

The last episode was very nice to a point. I noticed Kim Raver's name on the opening credit reel, so I saw her appearance in the final scene coming... But I figured Jack would've left with her. Is this effectively how they're gonna remove Senator Heller & Audrey from the story?

Very sad ending to the season without much of a guess of what's to come. It seems Jack will be doing more drifting than Ken from Kung Fu >_> Anyhow, I liked Jack's discussion with Heller. It brought up a good point... They pulled Jack out of China, but it was several years after he was taken there. It seems that the folks Jack took orders from really did see him as an acceptable loss.

At least Bill didn't get killed. When they were going to land on the rig, I figured Bill would've gotten capped. Good to see that he and Karen will probably fade out in to retirement.

OMG GUYS SPOILER!




READY?





SURE?






IT'S A SILENT CLOCK WHOMG.

Chloe being pregnant, I saw that a mile away.
The ending was quite calm compared to the usual endings. I was expecting a bullet to Heller or Jack jumping off the cliff. lol
It wasn't all silent. You could heard the waves.

Meh. There's an air purifier going in the room with my TV. I didn't notice. Either way, it wasn't a clock.. basically the same as the end to the second season.

I hope this hasn't been posted yet. Here is Jack and Tony at a drive-thru:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmL8A-1nBgI

Funny stuff.

xman25a

Naz, the lol oh shit quote was, "You send someone, I'll kill them. I'm pretty good at that too."

He probably didn't resist because I bet he knows that Jack capped one of his own buddies (Curtis) earlier that day. I wouldn't screw with him either =p

Not a bad finale.
I had read the spoilers and was really hoping for Tony to return, but it was not to be. My first reaction after watching it was, to be honest, awful. But, after thinking about it, I think it was good for the show, as it allows a fresh start. There is nothing really calling us back, allowing the writers to do something completely new for season 7 (well, that's what they've told us anyway :))

EPA locating the oil rig ftw. WE FIGHT TERRORISTS TOO.

I thought about starting a Season 7 thread for 24 until I read this:

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-en...Plot/800018254

I really hope they can come up with something....then again maybe not. As much as I love 24, I think FOX should let the show go. Havn't the writers done all they can with 24? I don't want 24 to be like an aging athlete who should have retired a couple seasons ago. Look at what happened to another FOX show The X-Files. I thought the first seven seasons were great, but the last two were OK at best. Some hits but a lot more misses. The show should have ended after seven seasons. I think 24 should quit while it's ahead.

xman25

Yeah, I heard about that. It's kinda stupid for FOX to do this when the producers are finally making some changes to try and add some more life to the show. If we end up with even more crappier plots than last year, FOX will definitely be to blame.

As for the show ending, I kinda want it to go at least one more season so it can redeem itself from last year, and not go out on a sour note like that. And as unplausible as it would be, I've always wanted to see two back-to-back days. I think that would be an awesome cliffhanger, but of course it would take two seasons to do.

I'm pleased that they noticed fans were upset with S6. Maybe they'll pull it together, given this delay.

Female president? Augh. "GRRL POWAH"

Why would they potentially ruin a great storyline just because of some eps in Africa? FOX could kill on it if it was Season 1 and 2 quality.

I am sure a fake Africa in US could have sufficed.

Yeah, I'm still itching for the 2-season back-to-back day 24. And I'm still calling for the return of Almeida. Bring it, FOX.

Bit offtopic but what country they were refering to in middleeast in whole season 6?

I believe they deliberately did not name any specific country.

Yeah, they never have any problem naming countries like Russia or China, but they go out of their way as much as possible not to name any Middle Eastern countries.

A little off-topic question, but since Im not American or not in america, I would like to ask what other tv shows has the same if not better quality than 24?

I love serialized action/suspense shows. So far I've got the DVDs of Heroes, 24 and Prison Break and all are damn entertaining! Anything else I must see?

p.s. I don't like Lost though, never really got to like it, it seems to absurd to me.

Did you guys hear the news? http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...54a13e189f21c0

The Shield without question man. Should be able to get first season for 20 bucks online.

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Also what will happen to Palmer then. I am sure he would have recovered. I don't remember how along he was in his term, but it was at least two years wasn't it. So next one has to be two years later then. And Palmer didnt have enough support for another 4 years I guess =0

I second BZ's recommendation of The Shield. Definitely one of the top three shows still on TV right now (sucks that it only has one more season left, though).

As for this female president, it seems like they're going more for shock value rather than feasibility. I'm not saying a female president will never happen (heck, it could happen within the next few years), but the way they're making such a big deal about it just makes it seem like they want to surprise people more than anything. I mean, by comparison, they never made such a big deal about Palmer being the first black president, it just seemed like a natural thing.

And I've never even heard of the woman who will be playing her.

She looks very presidentey.

What is this 'The Shield'?

The Shield is a cop show that comes on FX, but just calling it a cop show really doesn't give it any justice at all. The show is just so awesome. I'd recommend buying it sight unseen, but if you need convincing, try watching at least the first episode somewhere. I'd be seriously surprised if you didn't like by the time you got to the end.

The woman to play the president was in Ocean's Twelve. She played Linus' (Matt Damon) mother, but that's the only time I've seen her. At least they aren't making some 30-something super model the president.

I just hope they aren't trying to make a statement.

"BUSH SUX VOTE HILLARY~"

Yep I already got House M.D, and grey's anatomy but I realized I'm not much into those hospital dramas.

Hmm, The Sheild sounds interesting. I never heard of it. THanks for the recommendationS!

Bah, is it anything like 'gripping, great story' 24?

I'm slightly disappointed that the President's going to be part of the new season of 24. I somewhat hoped that with the supposed shake-up of the series that it'd be moving away from that typical element of the series.

Maybe he chose not to run again?

Oh definitely, it's just not really on the same scale as 24 (they're just cops, so it's not like they need to stop nuclear bombs or prevent world wars or anything). Even so, it has just as much action, drama, and political intrigue as 24 does.

yeah I just started watching the shield over the summer, and I am hooked now. Its like right behind 24 for my favorite show. I still like 24 better though, but the shield has helped with the long months waiting for 24 season 7 to begin.

The original plan was to have Jack Bauer travelling Africa trying to find himself, and becoming caught up in a coup with "Black Hawk Down" style results. There was also to be a 12-hour time jump halfway through, with the second half set in the US.

Set spoilers on Season 7...
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news07/070725k.php

Offtopic again,
I started watching 24 in little bits a month ago, now Im halfway through Season 3. I have all disc till Season Six and Im already excited about Season 7. :P

From what Ive seen so far man I must say, Nina Myers is such a BITCH!! :D I wanna blow her head off for being so nasty LOL.

Production of Season 7 has been delayed again: http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/zap-24...tory?track=rss

xman25

At least they're still targeting January for the premiere as usual. Hopefully it's still MLKJ Sunday, otherwise my countdown timer is off by a week then. =p

And osnap, is Jack comin' to DC? =p

The terrorists will win because Jack will get stuck on the Metro.

"Green Line delay in the direction of Greenbelt."
"DAMMIT." *stuck between Anacostia and Navy Yard; oshit southeast*

THERE IS NOT ENOUGH TIME to wait for the shuttle bridge

Shoot, if Jack is stuck in Southeast DC, he's gonna need CTU again if he wants to make it out.

They'd need to have a scene at RFK a la Season 2 (at the LA Coliseum). Jack gets trapped by the retractable bleachers!

Who is Cherry Jones?

Well, at least they are still planning to air in January. I also wonder when Season Six will be out on DVD?

Like every year. First week of December most likely.

Janeane Garofalo is joining 24:

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-en...falo/800020700

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...c61739c2c1ea35

The first thing that I thought was "UH-OH!!!!" But, I'm sure she will do fine.....:erm:

xman25

...Who?

Oh Janeane Garofalo, she was in..... I dunno but looks like we've got a new dead people list compiling :)

Here is information on the DVD release of Season Six:

24 (US - DVD R1) in News > Releases at DVDActive

xman25

Whew, finally finished watching all six seasons since I started last month. What a show. The last scene on S6 was depressing especially of Jacks face as he was on the cliff.. Really feel sorry for the guy. Damn politics.

I hope they dont ever change Jack Bauer as the lead. It aint 24 without him.
Also Does anyone know what substance was used on that "deadly shake hands" the pretty girl assassin used with David Palmer?

Didnt he die in Jack's arms after injecting himself with some shit?

I hope they release a trailer soon 0 because I remember around this time last year they showed the Season 6 trailer during the world series or something.

Considering all the delays they've run into with shooting so far, they may not have anything to show yet.

Conspiracies, conspiracies...

Smoke & mirrors! =( He'll come back as Robocop (who, ironically, killed him!)

As a big proponent of the Tony-is-alive fact, the answer to this question is no.

Yeah, didn't they just start shooting like this week or something? Either way, we'd probably be lucky to see anything by the time the DVD is out.

So...this is one time when we can't say Naz is full of :nazfail:...

what. The. Fuck.

Uhm... Does not compute =I Long day, sorry, but is the last line meant to be a joke of some sort that I'm not catching?

Yeah, Reiko Aylesworth is joining the cast of ER this season, hence the corny joke.

ER gets all the cool people in their cast. Now, if only every single episode would stop being THE TV EVENT OF THE DECADE THAT IF YOU MISS YOU CAN NEVER WATCH TELEVISION AGAIN, and they actually wrote some decent plots, then I could take it seriously. Still loling at last season's episode where the plot boiled down to "Guy has a car accident and kills someone because he couldn't read". Illiteracy, the best element of drama ever.

An article on "The Return": Resurrection and Politics on '24' - Zap2it

xman25

So is that real or what

Gayness.

No this would be godly if true. Did the government secretly keep him and say he was dead for some purpose?

Here is some news for next season: 24 Premieres Clock Teaser Next Thursday - Today's News: My Take | TVGuide.com

xman25

I don't understand this. Last season brought loads of speculation about Tony's return in the finale, but it wasn't to be. Now the writers say that he's returning in the main news flash about the new series, as if it's not a big thing. Something just seems odd.

His return had better work in the shows favour, otherwise I think 24 is screwed...

Season 7 trailer is up! OMG watch it

Season 7 Trailer leaked early on You Tube
YouTube - Official 24 season 7 trailer

More high quality DivX Web Player version can be found here: http://stage6.divx.com/user/jcaveman...-Day-7-Trailer

WOW. That look fucking AWESOME =D I love the end of it. Real nice touch. Plus the torture scene gave me a laugh; "I'm gonna enjoy this..."

Derailing from CTU and the usual site may very well be what the series needs. I'm REALLY pumped for it to start. Moreso than I was with the last season.

Wonder if that was a glimpse of the WHOLE DAY or if that was just the first four episodes or so ;( Is the premiere still going to be in mid-January?

Looked pretty good I guess, still worried about Tony's lame return. Anyone else think Die Hard 2 + 4?

Wow, the change of scenery alone is already making this season look like it could be great. I'm still a little mixed on Tony (never seen the Die Hard movies), but as long as they believably explain why he's still alive (it's not really the method of how he died that makes it hard to believe, it's just the 'what happened afterwards' part that's hard to swallow).

But after thinking about it, it's really not that hard to believe Tony could turn. I mean, just look at the way he initially acted in Season 4. If he could act like that just from being in prison and losing his wife, just think what having his wife murdered and being left for dead himself could do to him.

EDIT:
Based on how the filming kept getting delayed so many times (like it is once again, due to the wildfires in California), it's most likely only from the first four episodes (if even that). And yeah, it's still scheduled to premiere in mid-January (Sunday the 13th to be exact).

I can't hold contain my psychtitude any longer. Hell fuck yeah. And after watching the trailer, I most definitely pissed in my pants. I pooped in my pants. Hell, everything's in my pants. That was awesome.

And so continues the countdown in my sig (may be on hold for a bit due to upcoming air assaults). And I'll finish the word once the season begins, but here's hoping that season seven is legen— wait for it...

Damn writers' strike: Fox shuffles sked because of strike

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To use Jack's favorite phrase: Damn it!!!!!!!

xman25

The whole writer's strike thing should help this show in that it gives writers time to think and make changes. Last season's 24 was a disappointment and I think it's because that season was rushed. They said they haven't even finished the script for season 6 and were airing it at the same time. I wouldn't mind waiting a season for a good story.

After just finishing season 6, I too felt slightly disappointed. If they rushed it, then that's probably the case. I thought it started out really well, but then towards the end it was just losing it's fuel and it wasn't really exciting.

After watching the UK trailer for Season 7 I can say i'm rather excited about it. Sure it's cheesy, but hopefully if they take their time with it they could pull their fingers out their asses and make up for Season 6 some way or another.

I like how we only have to wait a year for Season 7.

GOOD NEWS AND BAD NEWS FOLKS

"24" Gets A Two-Hour Prequel (March 6th 2008)

GOOD: 2 hour movie prequel in the fall.

BAD: Season 7 is in January as Megalith said.

Well at least we know that the season is going to kick major ass. Wait every season does for the most part lol

It's going to kick major arse because it's been delayed? Meh, I guess. We'll have to wait and see.

It can't be any worse, ideally. They always said that the rushed production times caused some of the storylines to get out of control in years past. More time = better show...usually.

In any case, my 24 fandom has blinded me to most of its foibles by now. I say bring it on, I'm still waiting. Cheers for the prequel, something to look forward to earlier in the future.

Is this "movie" actually going to have heightened production values, or is it essentially just a longer episode?

I will go with the latter.

Big news.

The Associated Press: Voight to play villain on Fox's '24' next season

And prequel airs in November.

Shit now the 2 hour movie is apparently just the first two hours of the 24 episode according to Robert Carlyle. How will Jack get back to the US from South Africa so quick if that is true?

Carlyle Talks "24" Prequel (June 25th 2008)

EDIT: well thats not true I guess. Just found it.

24 season 7 preview news - Today's News: Our Take | TVGuide.com

Whooo, glad to hear it's not true. I would not be cised for some 2+22. I can't believe I just went through a year without new 24. Yeah. I haven't thought about that in a while. I'm sad now.

Early prequel trailers are up. Six versions in fact -

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I'm so confused at the moment with 24. So the prequel is the two hour episode that is set in Africa that will air this fall. And the movie? Hmm. Then the actual season starts next year. Yeah... I think that's right.


And come on, not even 24 can avoid Requim for a Dream? Jeez...