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Ivalice Alliance - Tactics (PSP), Revenant Wings (DS), Advance 2 (?)
Square-Enix has announced a new series of games to expand upon a previously established universe, not unlike the World of Mana and Compilation of Final Fantasy VII series. This time, it's the world of Ivalice which first appeared in Final Fantasy Tactics. The first title under this expansion is actually Revenant Wings, which has its own thread and is properly explained there.
The second of which is a port of Final Fantasy Tactics on the PSP, which will see various updates-- most important of which are two new Jobs being made available. Others include new movies and such. Lastly, there is the (not-so-)mysterious "FFT A2". Which everyone and their mom suspects is Tactics Advance 2, so yeah. Source |
Please Vagrant Story 2, please Vagrant Story 2, please Vagrant Story 2...
I really hope the world of Ivalice comes into its own. I want to see concrete connections between games. This could be a great spin-off world from the typical Final Fantasy "new world every time" system. |
Ogre & Ivalice games - Matsuno = mediocre stuff.
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Oh my GOD FFTactis PORTABLE@!?#$!@#!# I will get a PSP for this game alone when it comes out.
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This will probably be the third PSP game I'll invest in (FFT), assuming it's ported over here. A portable FFT would be all kinds of win.
Are those updated cutscenes, by the way? |
Continual "ports" of games to the PSP simply isn't the way to go about getting people interested in either the games or the system. If they add more than "two jobs" to the game, such as an expanded storyline (which it clearly excels in) then I might have something to be interested in.
Everything else sounds nice I guess, but the way they're releasing more low budget games like this is adding more fuel to the fire that they need money for FFXIII badly. I guess Dragon Quest IX is part of that now too. |
I am offended by the Jump Pirate heiling Hitler in that bottom-left blurb.
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Most of the story in the game was done with in-game sprites and pop-up text boxes. |
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IMO, it would be nice if they have one game "series" take place in the FFT-era Ivalice and another around FFXII's time. Damn, this has got me saving for a PSP now. =( |
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One thing people might be able to get excited for is a new translation, as we all know the original was atrocious. They might even get the dude who did Vagrant Story's and (I think) XII's. |
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That would be awesome, and even a slightly updated FFT port is better than nothing. |
port with extra can be fun, but now that the ps3 will offer ps1 emulation and even emulation on psp, I don't know if some new Cut-scene and 2 new job will be enough to buy it for 40$ or take the ps1 emulation for like 5$...
the other game seem good thought ^^ I read here (yes it's in french) that the new FFT will be name Final Fantasy Tactics : The Lion War (Shishi Sensô in jp) and they didn't said on which system it will be and then therw will be Final Fantasy tactic A2 Fûketsu no Grimoire, which they are suppose to give more detail in the nest few day, I think FFTA2 will likely be FFT advance 2 like someone said before. I more interested in inal Fantasy Tactics : The Lion War which I think could be more like the original FFT then the GBA one |
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oh I see I thought Lion war was a new FFT
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Interesting. That article gave the subtitle of the new Advance game, being "Grimoire of the Impure". I didn't notice anything like that in the scan.
EDIT: Oh, there it is. |
wasn't there a big book like a grimoire in FFTA?
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Is there any time line for the world of Ivalice?
I've been under the assumption that it's something like: FFT -----many-years-later----> FFT:A -----> FFXII |
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FFTA > FFXII > FFT I don't know where I heard this, but I've heard that FFT takes place in Rozzaria. |
FFTA series takes place outside of the of the timeline technically, since it's inside a book based on the world of Ivalice :p
FFT taking place inside Rozzaria would make sense, since it's all locations that aren't in XII's Ivalice. From what I gathered, Rozzaria seems to be some kind of fantasy version of Italy :p I could certainly picture Al-Cid riding off on a moped going 'ciao'. |
Tactics Advance I believe isn't even a part of the real Ivalice, and is based on the children's experiences with Final Fantasy (I suppose it would be XII). Aside from that, we would have to assume that XII is a distant prequel due to Moogles and perhaps even the Bangaa and Viera going extinct by the time of Tactics.
As for Vagrant Story, that's a little trickier. Most assume that it's sometime between Tactics' Middle Ages and Alazlam Durai's Late Ages, but no one's certain. |
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Also, found another little link, though it may mean nothing: Spoiler:
And Vagrant Story would have to take place before FFXII, or at least during, since there are numerous entries in the bestiary that refer to the 'Naturalist Merlose'. Callo Merlose, maybe? |
Callo Merlose was Vagrant Story, not FFT. Which would place VS prior to XII.
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Oh motherfucker. Now I have to buy a goddamn PSP. This game had best get released here. If they fix the translation, FFT is one of the greatest games ever made.
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I had just chalked it and the Bunansa name up as little nods to previous games, like the Riskbreaker Guild Rank and Montblanc.
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Oh damn...
I need a PSP. Like, soon. |
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I believe Velius is Belias, but that may be stretching it. The Zodiac and gem associations are still the same in both titles, as is their jobs and ranking amongst them (Hashmal brings order/regulates, Ultima's the leader). The games are clearly linked. Even FFTA is linked, so it's not fictional. Spoiler:
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That connection to Advance is easily explained by the fact that the world is crafted by their experiences with Final Fantasy, like I said. A child's outlook could easily explain why the rather grotesque Seeq are absent and why the Judges are considerably more benign than their XII counterparts. Hell, it would make Montblanc fit in all too well, since he is exactly the same in personality and career choice.
Also, Belias is extremely similar to Velius when romanizing, so it isn't a stretch in the least. |
This is the time line (Oldest in chronology story-wise) as it has been most likely hypothesized:
FFXII ---> FFXII:RW ---> FFTactics ---> Vagrant Story. This new game = No Idea, obviously. Looks like SquareEnix finally realized people luv Ivalice. I admit I've warmed to the whole 'world', although its very close to the overused medieval fantasy which I abhor. Luckily they deviated far enough to make it enjoyable. Also to those who might be confused, FFTA was the Equivalent of Super Mario Bros 2 (Doki Doki Panic! in Japan) or Legend of Zelda - Link's Awakening: Spoiler:
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Wonder if they will add new battle maps and nerf Thundergod Cid in the PSP version of FFT.
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And VS wouldn't take place that far ahead of XII, since it frequently cites 'Naturalist Merlose' in encounters with certain monsters. That would put it sometime before XII. Or if you don't to view this reference in this light, it could be an ancestor, but Merlose is a she in the entries. Someone explained it well in the FFXII thread that FFT takes place well after the others for various reasons (absence of other races, airship graveyard, etc). Either way, this is all very interesting. |
"Gasp!" - Drowning in the flood of cash cows here!
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But I wonder: Where would Lea Monde be located in Ivalice in relation to other places? |
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Do the people mention Merlose in the game, or is it part of the narration (be it spoken by no one in cutscenes or part of item descriptions and the like)? I can't recall, but if it's the latter, it doesn't necessarily mean it's giving away a general time period. As you might recall, the game quotes Alazlam in the very beginning. |
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- (FFXII), Ivalice uses the Old Valendian Calender, which would indicate that Valendia no longer exists as the time of FFXII. - (VS) There is a Temple of Kiltia, which the religion can also be found in FFXII in Mt. Bur-Omisacse as the Temple of the Gran Kiltias, which would suggest that either the Religion still exists, so that it used to beforehand at some point (The Cathedral could be Kiltia in name only, and be home to a different Church organization). - (FFT) The Kingdom of Ordalia is the location of Rozzaria (FFXII) on the Ordalian Continent, while Valendia is where the current Arcadian Empire is situated, on the Valendian Continent. - (FFXII) The rood symbol found on the cape of the Judges is also the same kind (Subtle difference in Design) found in Vagrant Story. - A.J. Durai is also the narrator of Tactics (duh). Some of this info might be unconfirmed. This is a combo of what I know, and what I was able to gather. |
Okay, now The Magicbox is reporting that Crystal Chronicles: The Ring of Fates takes place in Ivalice.
lol whut |
I think someone forgot to sleep before posting the news? The Crystal Chronicles take place in their own world, what with their own unique races and such.
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It also wouldn't click with the first game's story, because miasma =/= mist. |
I actually thought that the "in the distance" view of Giruvegan looked extremely similar to the same far-off shot in Vagrant Story of Lea Monde. They're both places rather surrounded by water too... but once you go inside Giruvegan, it's clear that it's very dissimilar to Lea Monde. Which made me sad slightly.
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But, on the other hand, this wouldn't be the first time Magicbox has misquoted or even flat-out wrongly stated information on an upcoming game. I'm also pretty sure I saw a Yuke in a recent screenshot, which wouldn't fit into Ivalice unless they add the original Crystal Chronicles world. Still, I don't think I'd be against the series being added into that universe. |
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I'm calling BS on them for the moment, unless this somehow takes place in the distant past. |
I truly hope SquareEnix have the common sense not to fuck with a legendary game like Final Fantasy Tactics. An updated port for the PSP is incredible news so let us hope they handle this properly and not turn it into a bullshit mockery that ports so often turn out to be. It would be nice if the PSP version offers a bit more flash for the visuals, but if not, use of the original graphics will do just nicely. This is one of the extremely rare cases where even I would say graphics don't mean a damn when you're talking about a game like Tactics.
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Crystal Chronicles DS has been confirmed to be in Ivalice as well.
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EDIT: RPGamer has retracted the Ivalice portion of the article, so I don't know WHAT the hell is going on anymore lol. |
I'm sure that's gonna seem very strange to serious FFT, FF:CC etc fans. I think they should have left FFCC:CB in whatever land FF:CC was set in. But hey, this is just some random babble coming from a person who shamefully has never played the main games mentioned in this thread. (Soon, though. Trust me, I do want to play FFT)
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Ok, I see the Onion Knight job on the right, with a summoner and archer in the back. I was looking to find the other new addition in there, but I guess not (unless it's that Ninja/Samurai one above the N).
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Be it true or not, whatever. I love the mediaeval atmospheres that Matsuno and his followers created, but I'm not a fan of the world Ivalice in the least, especially when it's just Star Wars-esque like FFXII. The Vana diel (FFXI's world) is much more attractive IMO. |
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BTW, Matsuno actually has never mention that VS takes place in FFT not even the VS Ultimaina. From GAF: Quote:
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Oh, and here's more reason to get the PSP version of FFT: http://watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20061215/fft02.jpg Damn. Wow, took a little too long. =/ |
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- The fact that Ashley Riot is a member of the Valendian Knights of the Peace. There is a separate continent named Valendia in Ivalice. - Durai being the historian/chronicler in both of those games. On my end, I'm looking forwards to seeing Ivalice take on a darker atmosphere as seen in FFT and VS. Anything like what came out of FFTA would just ruin it entirely. |
I'd be interested in a complete map of Ivalice with all the continents and locations that appear in Vagrant Story, Final Fantasy Tactics and XII. Does such a thing even exist?
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To the west of the Sandsea is Rozzaria (continent of Ordalia?) To the south of Rabanastre is Kerwon Dalmasca is on the Galtean penisula (IIRC) As for Archades, didn't someone mention it's in Valendia? |
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http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/8042
Damn. If every single cutscene has been redone with cellshaded graphics and voice acting, then this is a guaranteed day one purchase for me. These are the kind of games that can save the PSP. |
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It's amazing that they actually made the style exactly as it was in the original. At this rate, I will be re-buying a PSP. |
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I guess if they want to write something then retract it that's their decision, I was only calling what I saw at the time.
Even so, I doubt I'll be buying a PSP for any of this, as the only thing the PSP still continues to offer are ports of game titles. Soon as they release a unique Tactics title for the PSP I might be inclined. I edited my original quote post of that article to indicate that Ivalice was retracted from it. |
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Plus, as I'm sure someone has already said, here's hoping for an improved translation. But even without that, those added anime scenes will enhance the story a lot on their own. And, just as a backup, even if it would change the story in some noticeable way, guess what? The old story still exists too, right there on the PlayStation. It's not going to overwrite your memory of original FFT playthroughs or plotlines. You can have both. Now, that's just *if* anything's even changed, though. |
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2 confirmed for DS.
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Source of this "Confirmation"? |
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If that turns out to be true, I'll have to toss a hearty lol out to Sony because the PSP will effectively have become the port bitch system. I guess Playstation Portable sounds quite becoming at this point.
It's also another title in Nintendo's hands, which will add even more fuel to the "Square defecting to Nintendo" fire that's been raging lately. Of course, this doesn't take into account that FFTA1 was fucking horrible either, and that the Tactics sub-franchise really deserves something better like a PS3 or Wii release. |
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The only Final Fantasy to hit any Nintendo System has been Crystal Chronicles, which is like a spin-off series, and Tactics Advance, which is Tactics Ogre Advanced, but with Final Fantasy IP. If they DID however make the sequel for the Wii... I don't know what to think. The PS3, I'm afraid, would sacrifice Gameplay and/or the Game's soul/uniqueness for Sony regulations in their games (Compare to how Sony Computer Entertainment America (SCEA) has an active policy against any 2D game, or EA in general). On the flip-side, the Wii port would probably have subtle censorship, such as mature content references, which is typical of Nintendo (I have a feeling they released Conker's fur day just to say that policy was not actually true, have a steak to feed the sharks, as it were). Now then: What would/does the sequel entail story-wise? |
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I agree with DN that if it did show up on it, there would be lots of "you can't do this" or "show that" for the title. PS3 would be out of the question, for the reason stated before (handheld only). If it did show up on that machine, it'd likely end up as the most gorgeous FFT-based game to date, but with the shitty gameplay+story of FFTA. FFTA2 for the DS is completely reasonable and expected. |
In that case, I'm all for Square getting into talks with Nintendo about a Wii release Final Fantasy Tactics. I doubt they'd even think of telling Square they can't do something, considering it would be another step up for Nintendo.
Besides, being able to point on the screen where you want your characters moving to, among other things, sounds likes fun. There's probably a host of possibilities that a strategy game could provide that Wiimote, that would add some much needed immersion. |
Yeah when they said there was another FFT game, platform TBC, I was already pretty damn sure I knew the answer already. I guess I was right. So many great announcements for the DS have been made since last year that I've become desensitised to them now lol!
As for PSportable// that's a classic right up there with DS Phat. Credit |
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Am I the only one totally okay with this, though? I think the port of FFT looks freaking amazing and I can't wait to play it. Plus I already know I'll enjoy it--I've wanted a handheld port of FFT for a long time. Add in those anime scenes, new jobs, and a *hopefully* better translation? Score. Most of the ports that have made it to PSP are games I'd like to play handheld, fortunately. |
In regards to the second page of this thread:
I couldn't find a particularly good image of it, but I still rather prefer the original logo. http://www.finalfantasytactics.info/fft/images/logo.jpg The new one isn't bad, though. |
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FFT = PS1 FFTA2 = DS FFT (Port) = PSP FFT2 = ??? I think the best decision for all would be for it being on the PS2, but since both Sony AND Squeenix are Graphic Whores (For both bad and good), they'd want to push for a PS3 Sequel with real-time magic casting or something. However, Nintendo has new management as of late, and maybe that will indicate allowing FFT2 on the Wii. Afterall they did have the Resident Evil titles (Notably RE4, game in my signature right now), and Red Steel as a launch title for the Wii, both of which are much more directly violent then any Final Fantasy title. |
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BTW, Cetra's right. I've long heard about this 2D restriction business, and it mostly comes from bitter ToD folks but many other 2D-philes can't seem to leave that horse alone. |
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I asked before but I'll ask again: What would the possible story-line for Tactics2, or FFTA2 be? If FFTA2 is as cheesy as Marche's friend from out of town opening the same book and then all of them getting sucked in again, well I'll LOL at that. |
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Anyway with more regard to the topic, after seeing the CG work for the PSP version of FFT, I really would not mind a PS3 FFT game that utilized a real-time version of that CG for in-game graphics. It does an excellent job in staying true to the FFT art style. |
Alright, this is fucking retarded. Champions of either camp need to take this clash of the titans elsewhere.
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You can see SE's approach by looking at where their games are going. The SE leaving Sony is some of the most overblown stuff I've heard in a while, when all they're doing is healing the work on the relationship they've always had. Quote:
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FFT PSP port webpage up. (Japanese only)
Includes: -Story Info -Character Info (Delita, Ramza, and Ovelia) -3 wallpapers -A direct feed of the Jump Fiesta trailer!! http://www.square-enix.co.jp/fft/ Sometimes the flash doesn't load up, if that happens, try downloading the japanese flash player or just restart the page. Anyway, i'm impressed with the trailer now that we have a good quality version of it. I like the 'cross-hatch' effect in the cutscenes as well, but i'm hoping they don't sacrifice vibrant colors for an antique feel. It's also confirmed that they will remaster the entire soundtrack, damn. |
If it's remastered in the same vein as the "remastered" Valkyrie Profile PSP port soundtrack, you probably won't notice much. I dunno if that means they'll be reprinting the soundtrack YET AGAIN, either.
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Dunno if this has been posted or not, but here are all of the current famitsu scans. They renamed the Oracle to "Auger"..anyone know what that means in context to the job class itself? |
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Alright, Regards to the "First" Half of this Thread:
NOTE:The following, is speculation and assumption; CREDITS: Up until this forum, I never even heard that Vagrant Story (VS), was related to Ivalice. The subtle details referring to Final Fantasy Tactics (FFT) and Final Fantasy XII (FFXII), were missed by my lack of consciousness. The reference of Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (FFTA), in the thread, was also very helpful, because the scenario of a "Kids Point of View" never occured in my mind, Until Now. Also I must credit those who inputted information here. (I'm new, so I would've have "Quoted" or given them more... "Specific" credit, I apologize) Anyways... Someone had been Looking for a Whole Map of Ivalice? MAP: Here's the Screenshots for Both Games: (FFT and FFXII) http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b6...FFTIvalice.jpg http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b6...alice_FF12.jpg Details: Rozarria was on the west side (Ordalia;FFXII) -There is another Piece of land (FFT) west of Ordalia --Someone mentioned that FFT took place in Rozarria ---If I recall all land in FFT was under "Rozarria" land. Archades was all of the northeast (Valendia; FFXII) -Referrence from VS, states it took place in the kingdom* of Valendia This evidence shows, that each game only showed "Half" of Ivalice, as the other half was irrelevant toward the plot CHARACTERS: Alazlam J. Durai -He is the famous historian of Ivalice. --It is mentioned (wikipedia) that he began writing the history of "FFT" 400 years after the incident. ---This brings up the fact that, VS, because of the qoute by him, must've taken place after 400+ years after FFT ----In FFT a non-playable character named, Olan Durai existed; He was the adopted son of Cidolfas Orlandu. Bunanza Family -The crafts man of FFXII and FFT have a common surname -- All of use some kind of "firearm" as a weapon ---The inconsistancy is that; Mistudio and Bersordio (Father) were in Rozarria (East of Archades, FFXII) ----While Ffamran (Balthier) and Cid Demen Bunanza are met in the Archades end of Ivalice TIMELINE: FFXII used the "Old Valendian Calender" (Referring that Valendia already existed before FFXII, consider VS) As FFT was in it's "Middle Ages" Wikipedia, states: The common "important" date was when St. Ajora formed a new religion* -This takes place about 100 years after FFXII. -Parrallel to this time, In FFT, the same event occurs: --St. Ajora forms the Glabados Religion, This was 1200 years before FFT Meaning, FFXII was before FFT My question is, does that mean; After FFXII, Ivalice reached a "Dark Age" and the races asside from Hume become extinct? Also, Would Airships have become lost technology? (Keep in mind, FFT took place in "West" Ivalice, and FFXII took place in "East" Ivalice (Map assumption)) VS also took place in a mideval time. -But Valendia must've existed before FFXII, because there would be know Valendian Calender, nor the "tombs" and references in FFXII. --This doesn't imply that it was VS's Valendia. The tombs were the of another era of Ivalice, not in-game Lastly, FFTA, began in an Urban timeline, And if recall it was only a town* named Ivalice. And the actual world was only a created from the imagination of children. Al-Cid Margrace invites Ashe to his family's vacation spot in Ambervale. This location was in FFTA;it is the summer home of the royal family. This supports that, Rozarria did exist in FFTA, and the connections are justified. Keep in mind this was all read from a book, and perscieved from a child. And because of its Urban beginning it meant it was far pass the medeval period of FFT or FFXII or VS. The only name that has surpassed all the years is Alazlam J. Durai. The book was an ancient book called the Gran Grimoire. (This was only a copy. There were a few others) The Gran Grimoire was also found in VS, (But the Gran Grimoire was the town intself?) Someone stated: Because they are children, they did not perceive the "darker" side of Ivalice, it was of a child's dream and game, nothing more. The children would have not meddled with such political and warlike affairs. My Timeline goes as Follows: FFXII,FFTA* ~1-2 years~ FFXII-RW ~1200 years~ FFT ~400+years~ VS ~Centuries After~ FFTA* *FFTA began centuries after, but the children's perception is paralleled with FFXII Now, for the "Second" part of the thread: To me, the PS3 sucks. There too much power being put into it. Also, FFT was never a full-front game. It was still a sleeper, and it should remain that way. FFTA was disappointing at first, because the Ivalice "I loved" was gone, but as FFXII joined in, It rekindled my joy. (FFTA still isn't my favorite) FFXII was probably the most popular "Ivalice" game yet. But I'd still like the "tactics" games to remain on handheld. Just because games involve thinking and strategizing, should be best taken on the road. (It took me 70 hours to beat FFT, and I'd wish i could've taken it elsewhere) (Like Fire Emblem, or S.R.T or Ygddra Union.) All that asside. FFT A2, Grimoire of the Sealed Hole = DS FFXII-RW = DS FFT:TLW = PSP FFT2? = PSP Just to keep it uniformed. Nintendo got the "A's" While, Sony get the other* kind? I think I'm forgetting something... Sorry... |
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EDIT: I got a little more from here Balthier http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5..._122_417lo.jpg Dark Knight http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...ader396285.jpg Wish: I hope Dark Knights have a lot more than just Dark and Night Sword as their abilities. LOL moments: #1: Gafgarion, you are no longer unique. #2: Now you can really make Ramza a Dark Knight zomg! |
Awesome :o Okay now I really need to get a PSP haha.
Balthier a major role in the game? So I guess it's not like how Cloud was included in the original. |
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I'm definitely liking what I'm seeing here, pretty much solidified this purchase. |
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Also, what i've heard/read/know... is they are of the same family... and gah... Square surely is trying to confuse people... What I'm trying to say is that... Under the impression of the timeline from the director (courtesy of wikipedia)... FFXII takes approx. 1200 years BEFORE... (READ MY HOURS OF WORK IN THAT WHOLE COMPILATION) ehe... but to have Balthier be an extra such as cloud was during the game... maybe a replacement cloud?... then it's plausable... though in my preference... it would be nice to form a "Team" of all my favorite characters... which does include Cloud and balthier. Anyways... Square likes being inconsistant... and I'm slowly getting irratated... Um... Am I forgeting something? Oh, Mistudio does have compitition... I mean... Balthier's slick looking shirt totally beats his blue overalls and yellow shirt... ahaha... |
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I always just considered Balthier and his pops, and his use of guns as a nod to Mustadio (just like Leamonde Entite) rather than somehow directly connected. Who knows? He may be made part of Mustadio's family in order to fit into the world. Sounds like a possible sidequest to me. Quote:
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I don't see any reason they wouldn't... I mean, we're getting Chocobo's Storybook Adventures or whatever the US title is. To localize that and not FFT?
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Man, reading this entire thread makes me want to buy PSP for the sake of playing FFT only. :(. But why PSP? why?? I really hope SE will port this to NDS instead of PSP. -__-
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DS is getting FFTA2 so it's gonna be even. D:
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There is no way I would compare FFTA with original FFT. Seriously, I was disappointed with the system of FFTA, things would have been better if they keep FFT job system which I think is perfect already.
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And while FFTA was no where near FFT, the DS is still getting a new FFT, so they are even in that sense. Edit: New shots of FFT, and revamped artwork. Definitely snagging these. |
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And yeah, I'm hoping that FFTA2 will be a lot better than the first, system and story wise. |
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It really won't matter which they use in FFT:TLW... cuz the translator will probably be different... And... Besides the confusing storyline of FFT... FFT... does surpass FFTA in all aspects... Does anyone know if the Onion knight has other abilities that differ from squire/chemist... (I mean the branching system) Also... Did anyone use the "Job Point" -> "Job Mastery" cheat? Y' think they'd have fixed that? Ah, Um... FFT A2 is gonna about hu? JW... |
Damn, reading all these up made it all clear to me :o Now my time is very much split between FFTA and FFXII :o
I never really enjoyed using Cloud in FFT x____x Is it just me? :o |
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Damn.
Now I need a PSP too? Previously, I had no interest in the PSP at all, but if this proves to be true, I don't think I can hold myself. If only it were on the DS, life would have been good. Damnit Square, making me buy a PSP. |
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Well, with the appearance of Balthier... I assume they would replace Cloud... since he isn't the hot new Final Fantasy "Icon" currently...
as FFVII was back then, FFXII is now... |
We all know the only real reason to get Cloud is to get Beowulf, and the Dragon along the way.
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Can you tell me the "secret character" or the "special sprited" units... Theres the siblings... mistudio, agrias, orlandu, ramza... and i think those are all you get by story... Then there's Beowulf, Cloud, Dragoneer lady, Worker 8, am I missing people? It's been a while... |
You forgot Rafa and Malak from the story.
EDIT: Oh, wait, the siblings.... Anyways, You really are missing Rad, Alicia, and Lavian. Oh, and Boco. ADDITIONAL SPAM: Meliadoul(or however you spell it) was there too. |
If anyone cares, Final Fantasy Tactics PSP is getting localized. It's available for preorder through EB games.
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That's good to hear, although I would've been shocked if it wasn't localized. One step closer to forcing a PSP out of my wallet.
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Yeah, I realized that after I read it again today. I do consider Rad, Alicia, and Lavian Special characters as well as Boco. That brings us up to 15/16. There's one left and I can't remember who it is. |
Have we mentioned the Dark Knight, yet? He's in your party for a few battles.
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Gaff Gafgarion. He probably doesn't count.
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No, not Gafgarion. But Byblos.
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If this is true we might get this game by let's say... Fall? Time to cross fingers. |
Square-Enix better not halfass this as they've done with some other ports. They have a pretty prime opportunity to make the game nigh perfect by fixing up the translation (and they've done it with the other games, which gives me some hope), and any new classes/characters or whatever is just icing.
At any rate, portable FFT is too good to pass up. |
Wow, it looks like Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War will have multiplayer along with the other new stuff mentioned before (2 new jobs, Balthier, cutscenes, other things I'm forgetting):
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I wonder if there's a new character incoming. In a recent picture there's a small silhoutte besides Balthier. The kanji says "who is this character?"
Some people say it could be Llednar from FFTA. Could it be...? Damn I want this game so much. I'm all over. |
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Kind of looks like Ashley Riot from Vagrant Story to me.
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It could be Vaan, who knows. |
hope they fix the bit whit Velius where they ask you to save BEFORE fighting him and he ends up killing all your team. So many games had to be redone because of that :(
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Wooo the forum is back!
Anyway, new info and pictures, the new character was revealed. It wasn't Llednar after all but it's from FFTA (FFT A2 in this case) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...kid/up1086.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...d/fftpsp16.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...4145232vr8.jpg Scan, artwork for Luso and finally, the japanese box art. |
I really like the vibrancy of the japanese boxart, but it's just...too damn busy. Get rid of some job classes, put maybe one or two antagonists in place (Vormav, Weigraf, etc.) and, uh, put the entire centre focus for Ch.3 and 4 in there as well (Alma) and we have a winner.
Aside from that it's pretty good, sure beats out the old PSX boxart. |
So, apparently, it sucks mad, unadulterated balls.
Now which of you folks didn't see this coming from a mile away? |
I was actually expecting this to turn out fine since it really should've been a simple port job. Didn't expect sound effects to get worse than the electric guitar grass flute, but arrows make beeping sounds now? What the hell. FFT just wouldn't be the same game without its glorious music either, so that's a major disappointment.
One less reason to look into buying a PSP in a few months, I suppose. |
Well, TOSE's games are such a toss up. Stuff they actually DEVELOP like Super Princess Peach, Rocket Slime and the GBC Game and Watches turns out pretty fucking awesome, but their hack port jobs always have something wrong with them. Lenneth, Chrono Trigger on the PS1, and Final Fantasy 4 on the GBA being among the worst of the bunch.
I guess if one thing can be said about FF4DS it's that it probably won't be broken as all get out, at least. |
It's a shame you're probably better off playing the PSX original on your PSP than buying this port.
I'd still like to hear some more "official" reviews, though. |
since when everyone base their conclusion on one guy on some random board? >.>
Valkyrie profile, beside the little slowdown was a very good port, so I don,t see why FFT should be worst... I guess I'll wait and see when the game will be release here... |
FFT PSP to be released in NA
Now, we just have to wait and see how much they fucked it up by adding in Balthier and the million other changes they've made in order to use the best game they ever made to pimp their new games. At the bare minimum they best fix the damn translation. |
the only thing that bother me is the quality of the port... I heard that there some slow-down... I don,t know how bad is it but I hope it's not too bad...
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It's a turn-based tactics game. Who cares about slow down?
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I mean, just check these videos: http://www.gamebrink.com/news/957-Fi...or_On_PSP.html PSP version on Top, emulated version on bottom. There's no sound for the knife coming through the ground anymore, and it takes about double the time. This is pretty much the case for ALL action animations. Ugh. |
Wow, that sucks big time. Good thing I still have the original for the ps1.
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Wow. The slowdown didn't bother me so much there, but fucking with the sound? O, that's just weak sauce that is. Good god, that translation best be fucking brilliant or I'm not touching a PSP purchase.
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I'm certainly a FFT fanboy, but not fucking stupid. That slowdown was annoying, very to tell the truth. If they don't fix this, and soon, the release of FFT for the PSP is gonna be a major dissapointment and failure. And if that happens, well, Square should lose a good portion of people, I'd say.
We'll see what my wallet says about this. |
Well, I'm annoyed they managed to screw the game with those details. However, there are really cool new features and that'll have to do it for me.
I mean, I bothered to finish FFIV Advance... >_> |
Some of the new items in the game can only be obtained by fighting against others, and since there is no Wi-Fi, that means you have to find a buddy with another copy of the game. Or I guess you can use that one program to fake it... what's it called... X-Link Kai?
The slowdown is annoying, but of course I bet S-E is probably going to just say "The game is running perfectly normal like any other PSP game" because it's making money due to the Final Fantasy name. The only hope is that this gets fixed in the US version. After a few hours though you will be more bothered by the sounds of the spells than the slowdown itself. The sad thing is, even for those with hacked PSPs and running the game off the memory stick... the lag is exactly the same. None of the slowdown gets removed =o The new arrangements for the CGI is nice, but the music and sounds are a turn off. It's of course the same stuff from the PSX version except TOSE decided it would be smart to remove the echo filters that added the realism to everything (and made it sound less choppy and retarded). The sad thing is it sounds worse through headphones than without. So instead of sounding not like a MIDI, it sounds like a MIDI. |
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This reminds me of that one e-mail someone had posted (In Japanese) from S-E that said the game was running just fine.
It seems now they have changed to "Well yeah the lag is there but we aren't going to do a damn thing about it." It is funny because they have the pressure to fix all of the bugs in the game if they wanted to, no matter who it was that did this game (TOSE, or S-E themselves, or some other place that might have been outsourced), they just really do not want to because they know it is going to sell anyway. It might not sell to everyone like hotcakes, but it will sell to enough fanboys. |
Well, that was also addressed to the localization team not the development team and so when they say it's "out of our hands" I'm sure it has nothing to do with them being lazy but more like everything to do with them just being unable to do anything about it.
It is a shame... but FFT had such a bad translation that I could still see myself getting and enjoying the port if it was spruced up enough. Plus, based on everything I've been reading they did add a lot of extra stuff, including new battles with story segments for old characters. Definitely a plus, since that may help alleviate the awkwardness when guest characters join and suddenly fade from importance in the storyline. |
*Xaekid starts casting Raise*
There have been some news lately, kinda weird nobody posted them. D: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5.../fftboxart.jpg According to Siliconera the american version of the game will retain almost the same boxart, hell, I would say that they even improved it. RPG Land has some new english screenshots right here and finally... Quote:
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A taste of the new VA for cutscenes: http://www.us.playstation.com/Media/...=ILC-RSS-Media
Gah! I can't wait, 2 months more... |
Wow, so instead of fixing the ridiculous slow down and sound issues, they spent all this time recording and adding voice acting to the previously unvoiced cutscenes? Looks like their priorities are in order.
As for the actual voices, they aren't too bad. I can't say any one of the characters sounds like I imagined though. Agrias was probably the closest to my "interpretation". Oh well. |
There is very little the localization team is going to be able to do about a shoddy port on the part of a Japanese company. They basically said it was out of their hands anyway.
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The only voice in that video that I had a problem with was Ramza's. Delita's could have been better, but I realize it also could have been worse.
Also, a very in-depth hands-on preview containing 3 (or 4) exclusive videos: http://rpgland.com/games/fft/lionswar/preview.html |
As long as the VO isn't as bad as Magna Carta, Baiten Caitos, or Tales of Symphonia I ain't gonna complain.
As for the port stuff. The guys at IGN had a hands-on with FF: Tactics -psp at the Final Fantasy anniversary party and they said that all the loading issues during spells and what have you have all been fixed. |
Wonderful news if true but I am still a tad skeptical. I guess we'll see.
The voice overs aren't bad. In fact, I rather like Agrias' voice but I think that new dialogue for Delita was supposed to replace "Blame yourself or God" so that sort of makes me ">:o". Oh well, still shaping up to be worth my money, especially if they fixed (or even just improved...) the lag issues. |
I think we can expect more changes to the dialogue, though I was hoping for that line. I did feel like my friend did upon playing Final Fantasy 6 Advance. "THAT'S NOT HOW IT WENT!"
I think I can live without "Blame yourself or God", considering the rest of the source material isn't exactly up to snuff. |
As much as I could complain, all things considered I entirely agree. The translation in the game for the most part was absolutely horrible so I can live without a few classic lines if it means cleaning up the rest of the poor dialogue in the process. :)
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I actually like the cinematics. They look like the original art and the voice acting isn't bad. While I don't have a PSP I'll definitely be watching them some way or another when the game drops.
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This is old news, but I didn't see it in the thread here.
Anyone else picking up the FFT Trading Arts figures? I'll be getting a box of 8, and I hope I get all 5, as unlikely as that is. |
Wow, why is Balthier in there instead of Mustadio or Beowulf. :(
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Trading Arts lines usually have a secret/unannounced figure or two (or sometimes like the Ivory stuff from the Star Ocean/Radiata Stories set) that could very well be Moose or something. I don't know for sure and it's all speculation though.
I'd like a figure of him, though. |
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http://rpgland.com/movies/fftlionswarenglish1.mov - Blizzaja http://rpgland.com/movies/fftlionswarenglish2.mov - Ifrit http://rpgland.com/movies/fftlionswarenglish3.mov - healing http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...tlionswar1.jpg http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...tlionswar2.jpg http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...tlionswar9.jpg http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...tlionswar4.jpg I haven't seen reports of the slowdown being reduced anywhere except 1Up, and that preview's been up for a while now. So I'm remaining cautiously optimistic. |
Wow, it's jarring as hell to see the Hokuten referred to as the Order of the Northern Sky. And yes, I am aware that hokuten literally means "north heavens".
EDIT: What the fuck is with that button command? I don't remember that. |
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Checking the recently released videos, the slowdown is not as bad as the japanese version. However is not as good as the original version either.
And I think that sequence is when a character falls into a trap (that were previously set by your opponent in VS mode) you have to input it without mistakes in order to avoid being affected by the trap. |
Anyone seen this scan yet? From what I've heard, Vaan and Penelo are going to show up in FFTA2.
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I hadn't actually seen it, but Magicbox reported on it last week. I like the designs, and the fact that Vaan is wearing a real shirt now.
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Looks like they're running with Balthier as a mentor for Vaan, which works well considering "lol wear a shirt, fag." I like the design, unfortunately I can't say the sprite styling of Tactics Ogre holds up well. The original Final Fantasy Tactics has me spoiled rotten, graphics wise. That and I hate Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, but hey, honesty and stuff. |
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Ah, looks like the Gria are the all female dragon race people were talking about. And the Seeqs look goofy, even moreso than they normally do anyway.
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Final Fantasy Tactics A2 TGS 2007 Trailer:
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Wow, that was pretty damn slick. I saw Scathe in there too, and on that note I have to say that the spell effects are much improved from the previous game. Looks like some more folks will be appearing in this one according to this scan:
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Well, what a pleasant surprise! I wasn't expecting to see Al-cid again, I kinda was expecting Montblanc (don't know why) though and it's nice to see him back.
I was browsing the official site the other day and got to check the jobs that will be available for each race. Hume: Soldier, White Mage, Thief, Black Mage, Archer, Paladin, Fighter, Ninja, Illusionist, Blue Mage, Hunter, Samurai and finally, one more to be revealed. Bangaa: Dragoon, Bishop, Warrior, White Monk, Defender, Gladiator, Templar, Master Monk, Cannoneer and one more. Nu Mou: Beastmaster, Time Mage, White Mage, Black Mage, Illusionist, Sage, Alchemist, Arcane Mage and one more. Viera: Fencer, Archer, White Mage, Sniper, Elementalist, Red Mage, Assassin, Summoner, Magic Fencer and Green Mage. Moogle: Black Mage, Gunner, Animist, Thief, Mog Knight, Juggler, Gadgeteer, Time Mage, Chocobo Knight and Magic Gunner. Seeq: Berseker, Ranger, Lanista and one more. Gria: Hunter, Raptor, Bastard and one more. |
Just a quick/dumb Question: Tactics Advanced 2 IS for the DS right?
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I don't even care if the jobs suck, I will use a Seeq.
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