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Dubble Nov 14, 2006 11:27 AM

Man hid under little girls bed for three months...
 
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...9-2446341.html

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Man hid under girl's bed for 3 months
By Russell Jenkins

Fugitive, 22, created secret den in 12-year-old’s room to abuse her after a chance meeting on bus

A man on the run from police seduced a 12-year-old girl and then hid under her bed for three months before eventually running away with her.

Scott Jennings, 22, constructed a secret hiding place in the bottom of the child’s divan bed and lived there undiscovered by her mother.

After drawing the child into his web of deceit, he is said to have systematically abused her.

A judge sitting at Minshull Street Crown Court in Manchester jailed Jennings, of Ashton-under-Lyne, Tameside, for two years and three months after he pleaded guilty to two counts of rape and one of sexual assault.

The child, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, met Jennings by chance on a bus in November last year.

Jennings, who was homeless at the time, was wanted for questioning by police on an unspecified matter. He persuaded his victim, a high school pupil, to take him home where she was able to sneak him into the house unnoticed.

She was always aware of his real age, say police.

He converted the child’s bed into a hiding place by removing wooden slats under the mattress and then cutting a large enough hole in the canvas support.

He would then disappear into his secret den whenever he heard the child’s mother approaching. The court was told that the girl’s mother was oblivious to his shadowy existence under the same roof.

Police believe that the child raided the family larder to feed the man she regarded as her secret live-in boyfriend.

Detective Constable David Donlan, of Ashton CID, said: “The victim herself has basically been hiding him there. He somehow brought her on to his side.”

At one point the child confided in her 10-year-old sister but it was not until she disappeared in January that her mother raised the alarm.

She contacted police after finding a note from her daughter explaining that she had run away but would be fine and her mother was not to worry. At that stage the child’s mother had no idea that she was in the company of an adult. Subsequently, the girl’s sister confessed to officers about the man in the house.

Detectives traced the couple to a flat in Fallowfield, Manchester.

Jennings initially denied abducting the child or engaging in any kind of sexual activity with her, but admitted he had been living at the address for three months.

The judge ordered him to sign the sex offenders register for ten years and disqualified him from working with children.

Detective Constable Donlan said after the hearing: “This is an absolutely unbelievable case that has had a huge impact on the victim and her family.

“The girl Jennings abused was extremely young and vulnerable and he took advantage of this vulnerability.”

He added: “I hope the family can now start to come to terms with what has happened.”
That is extraordinarily creepy... :|

ramoth Nov 14, 2006 11:33 AM

Why isn't he going to jail? Statutory rape, it doesn't matter if there's consent.

Also, lol at the Nancy Grace style commentary there. "Web of deceit" lol, gb2/journalismclass/.

Cirno Nov 14, 2006 11:36 AM

Yeah, for real. What he really needs is to fetch a beat down.

Locke Nov 14, 2006 11:42 AM

Well... it did say in the article that he was sentenced to jail... (not long enough) but he is going to be jailed :P

Soluzar Nov 14, 2006 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GRUN-1
Why isn't he going to jail? Statutory rape, it doesn't matter if there's consent.

It says right there in the quote that he is... just not for long enough. It's quite extraordinary that anyone would go to such lengths, isn't it? There's no way that the time he spent in hiding could have been anything but unpleasant. Perhaps it was better than being homeless, but it still seems extraordinary to me.

Kolba Nov 14, 2006 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GRUN-1
Also, lol at the Nancy Grace style commentary there. "Web of deceit" lol, gb2/journalismclass/.

Yeah I've always thought 'Web of Deceit' was used too lightly - it sounds like you're crediting with more cunning than deserved, I think, by using an invective phrase like WEB OF DECEIT.

THE INFAMOUS AND NEFARIOUS MASTER ILLUSIONIST SCOTT JENNINGS HAS SPUN ANOTHER DELICATELY CRAFTED WEB OF DECEIT.

Naw mate, it's just some guy whos told a few lies to a 12 year old.

Chibi Neko Nov 14, 2006 01:37 PM

The girl is a idiot, nothing more....

Honestly, shouldn't she have told her parents or the police if she was abused by this guy? I would just mislead the guy saying he could stay under the bed and then report him.

He was either a very good seducer, or the girl was just too easy to manipulate.

Leveless Nov 14, 2006 02:28 PM

Jedi mind tricks. Isn't it obvious?

If the guy had a shred of common sense he would have just bailed and left the girl. His intentions must have been to kill her when she got too loose. Poor thing. Knock on wood.

Mojougwe Nov 14, 2006 02:39 PM

Chibi, the girl is an idiot because SHE IS AN IDIOT. She's too young to understand issues regarding rape and kidnappings. She's got zero experience to combat such cases should she be the one in danger. So, after coincedentally meeting with Jennings on the bus, Jennings must of said something to get the girl to like him. She even regarded him as her boyfriend. Jennings being homeless obviously didn't care as to how things happened. So long as he got sex, food, a roof, and "love." Probably had been slowly robbing the girl's parents of cash at any chance he could get. Look into the purse, open the piggy bank, etc. Sell some merchandise even? Who knows.

Chibi Neko Nov 14, 2006 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojougwe
Chibi, the girl is an idiot because SHE IS AN IDIOT. She's too young to understand issues regarding rape and kidnappings. She's got zero experience to combat such cases should she be the one in danger. So, after coincedentally meeting with Jennings on the bus, Jennings must of said something to get the girl to like him. She even regarded him as her boyfriend. Jennings being homeless obviously didn't care as to how things happened. So long as he got sex, food, a roof, and "love." Probably had been slowly robbing the girl's parents of cash at any chance he could get. Look into the purse, open the piggy bank, etc. Sell some merchandise even? Who knows.

You only proved my point Mojo, the girl was just too easy to manipulate. An 8 year old would know better, hiding a strange guy under your bed is not a regular part of your day. Once he was under the bed it is as simple as leaving the room to tell mommy and daddy.... no combat experience required. She is 12, common sense develops way before then.

YO PITTSBURGH MIKE HERE Nov 14, 2006 02:46 PM

Pedo of the Year Award Winner, 2006!

Krelian Nov 14, 2006 02:57 PM

HOW DID THE PARENTS NOT KNOW. Seriously.

Cetra Nov 14, 2006 03:07 PM

I'm having a really hard time believe this one. Not everything read on the Internet is true after all.

Bloggs Nov 14, 2006 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cetra
I'm having a really hard time believe this one. Not everything read on the Internet is true after all.

It was in the newspaper too. I thought it was a but creepy myself "hey girlie, I'll sleep under your bed for a little while as I can't afford B&B" but what was the girl thinking taking a stranger home? seriously. Don't parents tell their kids not to talk to strangers nowadays? I bet the girls parents were more pissed because he was living there rent free.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Nov 14, 2006 03:31 PM

Note to self: Check under all furnature for creepy, homeless brits when I get home from work.

This is one of those things thats so strange, it has to be true. And if it isn't true - then the guy who made it up is wasting his time in journalism when he should be writing mystery novels.

Bloggs Nov 14, 2006 03:43 PM

I'm under your bed LeHah, I have a cheese sandwich... BEWARE!!!

Misogynyst Gynecologist Nov 14, 2006 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Darko
I'm under your bed LeHah, I have a cheese sandwich... BEWARE!!!

What kind of cheese?

Dubble Nov 14, 2006 03:45 PM

Gouda or Camembert or Limburger! BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA

Bloggs Nov 14, 2006 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
What kind of cheese?

Weak ass chedder, mwuhahah.

Chie Nov 14, 2006 04:13 PM

omg this is like having a raccoon living in your walls except this is a lot more scary and interesting.
Boogy man?

Bloggs Nov 14, 2006 04:18 PM

Here's a better picture of the man hiding under the bed.

Leveless Nov 14, 2006 04:26 PM

I've pulled similar stowaway stunts before, in JROTC Ranger Training. I never manipulated prepubescent kiddies, though. That's uncalled for. What her mother doesn't know is that her daughter has been previously sexually assaulted by her father or a babysitter, so now the girl has a sexual appetite. Her mother is probably some stoner drunk who is too busy throwing Mary Kay parties to take the girl to and from school. It'll hit the fan soon, I'm sure.

Outlaw Nov 14, 2006 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Capo
Pedo of the Year Award Winner, 2006!

That and maybe a Darwin award...the family as well. I mean...it looks as if the daughter took after the mother....I mean the mother was so blind as to she couldn't see that her daughter brought in a stranger who happened to be a stranger into their home until she got kidnapped, her sister didn't tell their mother or she did tell and the mother didn't believe her, and the daughter was stupid enough to bring a man like that into their home.

I mean the mother is what gets me about this...Sure, this guy hid under the bed whenever she was around....But you would think he would slip up sooner or later or she would have noticed her daughter's bed looked a little lower. I mean why did it take so long until she found out something was up? This has to be the strangest thing I've herd in quite awhile...

Misogynyst Gynecologist Nov 14, 2006 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Darko
Weak ass chedder, mwuhahah.

HORROR

Sarag Nov 14, 2006 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
The girl is a idiot, nothing more....

Honestly, shouldn't she have told her parents or the police if she was abused by this guy? I would just mislead the guy saying he could stay under the bed and then report him.

He was either a very good seducer, or the girl was just too easy to manipulate.

She was twelve years old and you're blaming her? what are you, retarded?

Misogynyst Gynecologist Nov 14, 2006 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by a lurker
what are you, retarded?

Look at who you're responding to, lurker.

Luckee Cookie Nov 14, 2006 11:00 PM

I'm just surprised how this was able to go on for 3 months :\

Conqueso Nov 14, 2006 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
The girl is a idiot, nothing more....

Honestly, shouldn't she have told her parents or the police if she was abused by this guy? I would just mislead the guy saying he could stay under the bed and then report him.

He was either a very good seducer, or the girl was just too easy to manipulate.

Yeah, it's totally the victim's fault, the way it always is with rape.

Acacia Nov 14, 2006 11:22 PM

That's undeniably creepy....geez, I really can't imagine how the guy could've gone un-noticed for 90 DAYS (maybe the cops rounded up...? =/ )

I mean, he had to have gone to the bathroom and stuff, right? Wouldn't the parents kind of notice the running water if the kids were in the same room or "mysterious footsteps?" What about the increase in the water bills or the necessity for more groceries? If he didn't/couldn't wash, then why didn't the mother notice a smell or something?

...Gah, this shit creeps me out. Poor little girl...

Infernal Monkey Nov 15, 2006 12:17 AM

I can't help but laugh at this as I imagine the guy popping up like Oscar the Grouch, shaking his head around with anger for scraps of food.

Chibi Neko Nov 15, 2006 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Devoxy
Not everyone is capable of knowing they're being abused or manipulated, or just how to articulate this to adults. Sometimes there are fucking obvious signs. He could have easily threatened her life and therefore all she could do was give off hints. You don't fucking know, way to be a totally insensitive bitch about this.

The girl is 12, not 5. It does not matter what the guy threatened her with, she had to have left the room at some point, thus giving the opportunity to inform a adult.


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Originally Posted by a lurker
She was twelve years old and you're blaming her? what are you, retarded?

Sure why not, I am as retarded as the 12 year old. The 10 year old sister had the sense to confess to the police.


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Originally Posted by Conqueso
Yeah, it's totally the victim's fault, the way it always is with rape.

It can be, if the guy raped or abused her, she could have informed her parents after she left the room. Seeing that she didn't, the guy would still be in the room and contiune to rape or abuse her. This is not a spontaneous rape that happens on the street where the guy jumps you and then runs off, this girl had many opportunities to inform someone while the criminal was staying in one spot.

Alice Nov 15, 2006 07:38 AM

Ohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygod...I am so creeped out right now. But seriously, how did the mother not know? Surely this child would have been acting suspiciously, or at the very least spending way too much time in her room behind closed doors. Parents these days. =/

And Chibi, get real. She was manipulated, and it was probably a piece of cake for this sicko to do it. Twelve-year-olds know right from wrong. Of course they do. But it would be very easy to convince a little girl not to tell, especially one with a low self-esteem who possibly has been convinced that she is in a relationship with a man who loves her.

Bloggs Nov 15, 2006 07:41 AM

Because every girl that gets raped really wants to put it out in public? Be real, if a 12 year old girl was getting abused by an adult then the first thing they are is scared shitless of what their Parents might do/think let alone if they get threatened by the rapist.

I blame the parents not taking enough attention to realize there was something wrong with the bed or even if their kid was acting strange. Surely they had to make the bed in the morning, how the fuck can somebody not notice something that's been slashed at with a knife?

Freelance Nov 15, 2006 08:01 AM

What I don't understand is how the mother was oblivious to the fact there was a man living in the house. There's no way he could have hidden so easily and so quietly that he could get away with it for three whole months.

The fact the girl told her sister about it, yet the sister never told anyone else about it doesn't make any sense at all as well. What kind of family is this?

At least he was caught though. That's a good thing.

Balcony Heckler Nov 15, 2006 08:02 AM

I think in this issue, you have to look at both sides of the spectrum. first of all, I agree with the side that this was incredibly stupid for her to do, and to allow this to happen without telling anyone, it was undeniably stupid, however, most kids aren't that smart anyway, and I also agree with the point that some kids wouldn't recognize rape and abuse anyway. so I guess it's kind of a moot point in that light

Chibi Neko Nov 15, 2006 08:10 AM

So we are in agreement? The girl was easy to manipulate....

Balcony Heckler Nov 15, 2006 08:14 AM

yes, I think we can agree on that fact that the girl knew very little about her situation. either that or she liked it, but we'll leave that to the sewers to figure out

Paco Nov 15, 2006 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
This is not a spontaneous rape that happens on the street where the guy jumps you and then runs off, this girl had many opportunities to inform someone while the criminal was staying in one spot.

I hope you don't ever have children because I'm quite sure that you would eat them at the first sign of "easy manipulation".

Soluzar Nov 15, 2006 05:59 PM

I don't think it's fair to blame the kid. I mean, you don't know her situation... neither of us do, but I can imagine a scenario in which this would all seem pretty sweet to her.

Suppose that this homeless dude isn't actually repulsive to look at... suppose that she's the kind of girl who never gets any attention from guys her own age. Suppose that he made her feel special... is she really so stupid for thinking that what they had might have been special?

Don't misunderstand me. From an adult point of view, the answer is clearly yes. From a 12-year-old point of view, is it really so clear-cut? Do they have the kind of life-experience that teaches us that you can't trust things people say when they want to get into your pants? Not always...

Metaconsciou§ Nov 15, 2006 06:29 PM

So creepy. o.o

I wouldn't let my 12 yr girl old use the bus alone without out being informed about these threats first. I also wouldn't purchase a bed for her that someone could hollow out space to hide in. x_x

Oh well... I guess crazy shit like this happens because the gene pool is attempting to cut out the uncessesary... -_-

Soluzar Nov 15, 2006 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Metaconsciou§
I also wouldn't purchase a bed for her that someone could hollow out space to hide in. x_x

Yeah, because you could really expect that to happen a lot... O_o

Seriously though... a lot of divan beds are hollow underneath anyway. It's not like this guy had to hollow it out, all he had to do was make an entrance in the outer shell.

Sarag Nov 15, 2006 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
It can be, if the guy raped or abused her, she could have informed her parents after she left the room. Seeing that she didn't, the guy would still be in the room and contiune to rape or abuse her. This is not a spontaneous rape that happens on the street where the guy jumps you and then runs off, this girl had many opportunities to inform someone while the criminal was staying in one spot.

You don't know anything about rape. I know you feel inclined to give your opinion as a woman and as a minor but you know nothing about what you're talking about.

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
So we are in agreement? The girl was easy to manipulate....

Twelve year olds are easy to manipulate, well stop the presses here folks.

Why do you think child rape isn't that bad, Chibi Neko?

Metaconsciou§ Nov 15, 2006 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Soluzar
Yeah, because you could really expect that to happen a lot... O_o

Seriously though... a lot of divan beds are hollow underneath anyway. It's not like this guy had to hollow it out, all he had to do was make an entrance in the outer shell.

If decided to have a child I think I would be paranoid of boogeymen. :(

Chibi Neko Nov 15, 2006 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Devoxy
Do you know what threatening does to kids that age?

Yes I do

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Originally Posted by Devoxy
Have you undergone sexual abuse or manipulation? Do you know what goes on in the mind of a child who does? Read up on some sexual abuse cases before spouting your shit.

I will not go into details... but I was 6, and I did something about it by informing someone who could take action.

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Originally Posted by Encephalon
I hope you don't ever have children because I'm quite sure that you would eat them at the first sign of "easy manipulation".

How is this even related to what you quoted me on?

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
This is not a spontaneous rape that happens on the street where the guy jumps you and then runs off, this girl had many opportunities to inform someone while the criminal was staying in one spot.


Paco Nov 15, 2006 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
How is this even related to what you quoted me on?

If you can't see the relation then I don't know what to tell you.

Sarag Nov 15, 2006 06:49 PM

No kidding. Being a rape victim doesn't give you the authority to call other rape victims pussies because they were raped at an older age than you.

It's strange how you can go through something and know nothing about it, but there you go.

ramoth Nov 15, 2006 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
I will not go into details... but I was 6, and I did something about it by informing someone who could take action.

Then you weren't manipulated. End of story. This guy had the girl hook, line, and sinker. How is this even similar?

Also, if you're not going to tell us the details, don't dangle it in front of us. I'll bet this is the same behavior which got you raped in the first place. Man, you sure were asking for it.

Chibi Neko Nov 15, 2006 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Devoxy
Oh so this is one of those self-righteous tirades, get over yourself.

That is your assumption, not mine.

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Originally Posted by a lurker
No kidding. Being a rape victim doesn't give you the authority to call other rape victims pussies because they were raped at an older age than you.

It's strange how you can go through something and know nothing about it, but there you go.

I have not taken any authority, nor have I called anyone pussies, your are assuming things like Devoxy, I simply stating that I can relate with the girl in a way. I was manipulated, not raped (Sorry, I should have mentioned that sooner) Can you relate to her in a similar way?

Chibi Neko Nov 15, 2006 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GRUN-1
Then you weren't manipulated. End of story. This guy had the girl hook, line, and sinker. How is this even similar?

Also, if you're not going to tell us the details, don't dangle it in front of us. I'll bet this is the same behavior which got you raped in the first place. Man, you sure were asking for it.

It is hard to talk about, even though I am online and anonymous. I wasn't raped. That is why I did not want to give details, just prove a small point.

Chibi Neko Nov 15, 2006 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Devoxy
How is this even an assumption when you clearly imply that you were smarter at 6 than she was at 12?

I didn't say I was smarter, I am saying that was my age when someone attempted things on me.

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Originally Posted by Devoxy
You didn't really prove anything except show your true colors on this matter.

If you mean true colors by me saying 'She should have told someone about the situation when she left the room' then your're right. That was what I have been saying since the first page of this thread.

Chibi Neko Nov 15, 2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Devoxy
Hell why do you even think she's stupid?

Because she should have told someone about the guy when she left the room if the guy threatened her. If they where on friendly terms and she really considerd him a secret boyfriend or whatever, that's her problem.

Sarag Nov 15, 2006 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
I have not taken any authority, nor have I called anyone pussies, your are assuming things like Devoxy, I simply stating that I can relate with the girl in a way. I was manipulated, not raped (Sorry, I should have mentioned that sooner) Can you relate to her in a similar way?

I absolutely cannot, which is why I'm taking the words of those who are more knowlegable about the case and of rape in general, instead of talking about how stupid a twelve year old rape victim is.

Why are you protecting a pedophile, Chibi Neko? Do you honestly think that child rape is okay?

Chibi Neko Nov 15, 2006 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by a lurker
Why are you protecting a pedophile, Chibi Neko? Do you honestly think that child rape is okay?

Hell no! when did I say that? I am just saying she should have told someone If she was raped or harmed.

I poked it and it made a sad sound Nov 15, 2006 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
Because she should have told someone about the guy when she left the room if the guy threatened her. If they where on friendly terms and she really considerd him a secret boyfriend or whatever, that's her problem.

Alright. I'm going to try and not yell at you like everyone else because, you know. Whatever.

There were no "friendly terms." The man plain and clearly manipulated the girl. She was too young (and likely innocent/naive) to know better. It could be any host of reasons, but a girl that age doesn't know. The man wrapped her up in his world.

She really can't be blamed for what happened to her. You really can't use yourself as a judge. Maybe you were educated or whatever, but you really can't say she's to blame. Thats just SILLY.

Sarag Nov 15, 2006 07:16 PM

You are saying that it is her fault for whatever happened. That sounds like rape apologetics to any thinking man.

So why are you apologising for a pedophile, Neko?

wild guess: your 'manipulation at 6 years old' was some neighbour offering you candy.

Paco Nov 15, 2006 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
Because she should have told someone about the guy when she left the room if the guy threatened her.

You've mentioned you're a dyslexic college student so I'm going to let it slide that you never paid attention in abnormal psychology but do you SERIOUSLY know what you're talking about? Have you ever read case study upon case study of psychological abuse and KNOW how well-oiled a machine like this can operate?

You don't know what the girl went through, you said it yourself. So don't tout yourself as a connoisseur of this subject matter when you obviously lack the sympathy required to even opine on it.

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If they where on friendly terms and she really considerd him a secret boyfriend or whatever, that's her problem.
Back. The fuck... UP. Now this is HER fault?

FUCKING QUIT LIFE BY SHANK TO JUGULAR NOW.

Dubble Nov 15, 2006 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
Yes I do

**snip** but I was 6, and I did something about it by informing someone who could take action.

OK - thats cool that you did that and all, but not every kid at that age is going to be as smart to think to do such a thing. Especially when threatened, molested, or heaven knows what else: and even more so at a malleable age like that. Regardless of what you may think, not every 12 year old is going to know or have the wits about themselves to be able to think on their feet in a situation like that. To assume that all would is quite frankly, kind of stupid.

Chibi Neko Nov 15, 2006 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by a lurker
You are saying that it is her fault for whatever happened. That sounds like rape apologetics to any thinking man.

So why are you apologising for a pedophile, Neko?

wild guess: your 'manipulation at 6 years old' was some neighbour offering you candy.

You can think what you like, but that is not what I mean, you are trying to twist what I saying. I am not apologizing for anyone.

Sarag Nov 15, 2006 07:21 PM

I like how Chibi Neko thinks she has a right to run her mouth off due to the fact that she's speaking as a woman and as a child victim of manipulation.

I will bring up the fact that there were women who fought against female sufferage in the 1900s. Chibi will have no idea what I'm trying to refer to with this, but then, no one is surprised.

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
You can think what you like, but that is not what I mean, you are trying to twist what I saying. I am not apologizing for anyone.

You said verbatim that it was her own fault that she was tricked.

You honestly think that child rape is okay. that's mindblowing.

Chibi Neko Nov 15, 2006 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubble
Regardless of what you may think, not every 12 year old is going to know or have the wits about themselves to be able to think on their feet in a situation like that. To assume that all would is quite frankly, kind of stupid.

Oh I understand that, I was just saying what I posted at the beginning... she had the opprotunity to tell someone when she left the room.

Sarag Nov 15, 2006 07:28 PM

Chibi, becides your own sick satisfaction of putting a twelve year old totally in her place, what do you think would be accomplished by blaming the victim in this case?

I hesitate to say it, but do you think she seduced the pedophile? That she's predatory? what's going on in that empty little head of yours, dollface?

Kara Mano Iru Nov 15, 2006 07:28 PM

Basically Chibi Neko, I think you're confusing stupidity with ignorance. Let me clarify that for you:

Ignorace A lack of knowledge. Ignorance is also a "state of being ignorant" or unaware/uninformed.

Stupidity Poor use of judgement, or insensitivity to nuances in a person who is otherwise intelligent.


Can you properly judge a situation in which you have no experience, when you are at an age that you have no contextual experience in?

The parents are stupid, the man is stupid. The girl is an ignorant, innocent, victim.




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Originally Posted by Encephalon
I hope you don't ever have children because I'm quite sure that you would eat them at the first sign of "easy manipulation".

LOL... You're awesome, as usual...


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Originally Posted by Metaconsciou§
If decided to have a child I think I would be paranoid of boogeymen. :(

I already am... :(

THIEF Nov 15, 2006 08:01 PM

You know, I'm inclined to also think that maybe the parents weren't exactly doing their job correctly in this situation. Or, you know, I could be wrong.

Kara Mano Iru Nov 15, 2006 09:06 PM

No, you're totally right, stupid parents ftw!

mindOverMatter Nov 15, 2006 10:12 PM

!? what happened to not talking to strangers
especially homeless ones that want to abuse you from under your bed..
It brings new meaning to checking under the bed for monsters *shutters*

Summonmaster Nov 15, 2006 10:53 PM

It's still too disturbing. How did the man even find the time to elaborately hide under the wood planks under her bed, unnoticed by the mom!? I could understand the basement, but in the girl's room...

I also wonder why the 10 year old girl didn't tell anyone, assuming she never had contact with the man in person. Or even the parents, how they couldn't notice any strange noise or signs whatsoever. Poor children, I wonder how this will affect the rest of their lives.

Metaconsciou§ Nov 15, 2006 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mindOverMatter
!? what happened to not talking to strangers
especially homeless ones that want to abuse you from under your bed..
It brings new meaning to checking under the bed for monsters *shutters*

That's what I'm saying, a real boogeyman!

x__x

::hides under covers::

Leknaat Nov 15, 2006 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mindOverMatter
!? what happened to not talking to strangers
especially homeless ones that want to abuse you from under your bed..
It brings new meaning to checking under the bed for monsters *shutters*

Simple. Ever see the quote: "A stranger is a friend you haven't met yet?"

That just contradicts the whole "Don't talk to strangers" thing....

Anyway, yes, the girl was manipulated. So much that she was in LOVE, folks. The girl considered the man her boyfriend. She didn't tell anyone because she knows what goes on between men and women in love. And that's how the guy used her.

He probably told her he loved her to get what he wanted.

Now, I'm not saying this is the girl's fault--it's definitely the guy's fault with the mind games he played.

Someone asked how the mother couldn't notice anything--especially increased water usage. When the family was gone, he could have filled a sink with water and cleaned himself that way. As for clothes--when I was twelve--I did mine, so it wouldn't be too big a shock that she washed his as well.

Paco Nov 15, 2006 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mindOverMatter
!? what happened to not talking to strangers
especially homeless ones that want to abuse you from under your bed.

I take it you just decided to skip the entire thread and repeat the first few posts ad nauseum, huh?

ramoth Nov 16, 2006 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
It is hard to talk about, even though I am online and anonymous. I wasn't raped. That is why I did not want to give details, just prove a small point.

Yet you're dangling it front of us, nay, holding above our heads and saying this gives you authority.

You can't do that and then not talk about what your experience was. It's hypocritcal, petty, and stupid. It makes you seem like an arrogant asshole. "Oh, I know more about you because of this mysterious and vague event that I won't tell you about."

It frankly destroys any credibility you have about your story; I'm convinced you made it up.


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