![]() |
2006 NFL Offseason Thread
Since the NFL season ended and the Steelers were crowned kings of the football world, alot has happened. No new CBA and tomorrow starts free agency. By this time Friday, expect to see a completely new NFL with massive cuts around the league if no new CBA miraculously comes through.
What the deal is, is that there will be a salary cap for this season, set at 95 million, taking off the extra 10-15 million which would be added on by the CBA (collective bargaining agreement). What are the long-term ramifications for the league? Barring a new CBA, the players either will be on strike or the owners will lock out the players in 2008. The union likely will decertify, and antitrust rules will apply. Also, the NFL draft will go away in 2008 as part of a clause inserted in the current CBA. Players coming out of college could be free agents, with no salary restrictions. Open negotiations, including those for rookies coming out of college, will leave it to the players to get what they can get. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2351462 All the information you need is above. |
What's everyone think about the Steelers chances of getting back most of their championship winning roster? I'm thinking it's not good. Both Randel El and Pro Bowl center Jeff Hartings look to be very hard to sign, and may end up on the market for other teams. This would be a terrible loss, as the anchor of our line and one of the most versatile players in football would be gone. Plus, that would leave the wide receiving core very thin, and we need to find another running back, in my opinion. Duce and Parker simply will not suffice for a championship team.
|
After seeing the NHL go through a nasty labor dispute which really changed the game, I would certainly hope the NFL wouldn't go through the same thing, since they've managed to vault past MLB as the most popular sport in the nation. It's definitely curious to wonder what sort of sweeping roster changes come out of this, and we could see a different NFL economy in 1, 2, 3 years time.
|
I would really hate to see such a wonderful sport, with wonderful fans and organizations sink to this level. Compromise and quit bitching already.
|
BTW, I would mention how much more coverage this is already getting and the league isn't locked out yet, whereas the only coverage ESPN gave the NHL when they were going through this was when they were locked out, when they *ALMOST* had a deal in February and when the deal was reached.
Awesome work ESPN. ;) |
That's only because 99% of the the US could care less about hockey.
|
Everybody, I mean everybody I know likes the Pittsburgh Steelers just because the won Super Bowl 40. Why?
|
According to ESPNNews, the NFL has delayed free agency (which would force teams to get under the cap) by 3 more days. Good news then, as it will give them alittle more time to get their shit together labor wise.
|
There have been already a lot of reasonably big names that have been cut. Mike Anderson from Denver, Stephen Davis from Carolina, Sam Adams from Buffalo, and Sam Madison from Miami.
Additionally, they seriously do need to get this resolved as soon as possible. Something like this only gets worse with time and might start more fans irritated with these proceedings. |
Quote:
|
I think Randel El already said he was going to go play the for the Bears since that was his favorite team while growing up as a kid. It'll be hard to see him leave town.
Now who is going to do all of our trick plays? |
Hines could pull some off, but he doesn't have the speed Randle El had. Who knows, though. We may be able to grab Larry Johnson (He has always wanted to play for the Steelers) and not even need to run trick plays.
|
Eagles are supposedly very interested in Randle El. I don't want him. He's a jack of all trades, but a master of none. I'd rather have a master of one.
|
That last "Master of one" you had worked out pretty well.
|
Guys I'm interested in are Eric Moulds(when cut), Antonio Bryant, and David Givens.
I'd take Randle El if I had to get him, but I'd prefer other guys. Him and Donovan are very good friends, and work out together in arizona. |
Just out of curiosity why do you have an MS Painted "X" on your little Philly icon there?
|
Because I'm anti-Phillies at this current point in my life. They've bullied me as a fan for years and after not making the playoffs in 13 years I've grown tired of them as an organization. It shows my displeasure.
I used photoshop to make the X though. |
Quote:
|
I still love them deep down, but right now I won't support them until they support me, and by support me I mean doing what it takes to build a winning ball club.
|
Alright.
The Colts resigned Wayne, but they may not resign James (which may be a horrible idea due to how valuable he is to the team). Though there are A LOT of RBs in the draft this year. We also resigned Brackett (Linebacker) and Brock (Defensive Lineman). Now we're trying to make sure we keep everyone we can - though it looks like we're giving up Vanderjagt for missing that kick... |
The owners agreed about 15 mins ago that there will be a 6 year extension to the NFL's salary cap and Collective Bargaining Agreement. With that, about 10 million dollar just got added to this years salary cap. Alot of the details have yet to be released, which we'll find out prior to midnight, but it is now known that teams have alot more room.
As of right now, free agency is scheduled to begin at 12:01 Friday morning. The Bucs, with this and Derrick Brooks' contract restructure that saved 11 million dollar over 2 seasons, will be able to resign Mike Alstott and make waves in free agency. |
Quote:
Well everything is better again in the world of the NFL - let's get to signing those Free Agents. |
From the latest details, from the NFL Network, the deal is actually 102 million this year, and 107 million next year. Free agency may be pushed back to 12:01am Saturday.
All in all, the NFL has avoided turning into MLB tonight. |
There are reports out that Culpepper will be traded tomorrow or soon after, but the team isn't announced yet.
Speculation is either the Dolphins, Ravens, Raiders, or Rams. |
The Browns are busy...
"Former New Orleans center LeCharles Bentley agreed to terms with Cleveland -- 6 years, $36 million, with a $12 million signing bonus. The deal makes him the highest-paid center in NFL history. Cleveland reached agreement with former Seattle wide receiver Joe Jurevicius on a four-year deal worth about $10 million." They also reached a deal with T Kevin Schaffer. "Former Denver defensive end Trevor Pryce reached agreement with Baltimore on a five-year, $25 million deal." Looks like the AFC North will be a real battle this coming season. To check out all the NFL free agency action, check out: http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9300482 |
Quote:
Vikings are doing A LOT this offseason: "They signed running back Chester Taylor, kicker Ryan Longwell and linebacker Ben Leber after retaining receiver Koren Robinson and safety Willie Offord -- and continued to talk to other teams about trading disenfranchised quarterback Daunte Culpepper." - ESPN.com They also signed former Giant Jason Whittle. As for Culpepper, a lot of teams may not try and get him as teams only wish to trade a third round pick rather than the Viking's wish of a second round pick. Raiders may not be trying, though the Dolphins are in the middle - looking at both Brees and Culpepper. Oh, and the Browns got Widereceiver Joe Jurevicius - great move. |
Its now official. Edgerrin James is now a member of the Arizona Cardinals, and Ted Washington (DT) just agreed in terms with the Browns.
|
That's good for the Cards but horrible for the Colts.
The Colts need to get a running back in the draft or find someone in free agency 'cause Rhodes is not going to be cut out for the starting position. Browns also got a punter - I have to say that the Browns are doing a great job this offseason. Oh and the Redskins got Randel El. |
Quote:
|
This stuff is ridiculous. I think the Cards should better this year.
|
Quote:
I got it from ESPN.com. That should link you to the article. |
Ahh I see now. Oh well. It was nice having you here Randle El. So long.
|
Maybe the Redskins will score some points this year. They could have a good chance in that division if their offense was stronger.
|
Just a few more things to add...
"Vikings | Hutchinson will become highest paid guard in history Sun, 12 Mar 2006 13:57:15 -0800 Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports Seattle Seahawks transition free agent OG Steve Hutchinson (Seahawks) will become the highest paid guard in NFL history with the offer sheet he signed from the Minnesota Vikings. Hutchinson is set to earn $49 million over seven years, with $16 million in guaranteed money." Ravens | Team reaches deal with M. Anderson Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:46:46 -0800 Jamison Hensley, of the Baltimore Sun, reports the Baltimore Ravens have agreed to a four-year contract with free agent RB Mike Anderson (Broncos). The total worth of the deal is believed to be $8 million with a $2 million signing bonus. Anderson expects to take over for RB Jamal Lewis as the team's starting running back "Buccaneers | Team may offer Ashworth a contract Sun, 12 Mar 2006 15:18:44 -0800 Jim Flynn, of PewterReport.com, reports free agent OL Tom Ashworth (Patriots) completed his visit with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Sunday, March 12. Agent Tom Mills told PewterReport.com that he expects Bucs general manager Bruce Allen to extend a deal to his client as early as Sunday evening, March 12." Well, I have to admit the Redskins are fairly well rounded out (besides the secondary). After looking at their contracts, it evident that they were built to win within the next two seasons by signing guys to long-term contracts. I.e. Portis is making $500,000 this year, next year that balloons to $3,500,000. The downside to the Redskins is that they aren't overly talented in any one position either. They have a solid offensive line, but it can't dominate solid defenses. Their secondary is good, but can't stop an above average receiving corps. Their defensive line is consistent, but doesn't make many big plays. Their offense is overall solid, but when it went up against our defense in the playoffs, it didn't do squat. Washington fans should be happy, not cocky, because the truth is that all their secondary needs is a single injury before it depletes, and their offensive line isn't what it used to be. The problem with Lloyd is that he is the type of reciever that makes the highlight reel catch and drops the easy ones. His work ethic is questionable and he's been called out by Fred Beasley (who is a fullback mind you) as a result. But it seems as if he may be starting to turn it around and paired with a pretty good WR who knows. |
Steelers are fucked this year. We have no offense. Unless we get a good wide receiver who can go for the deep ball, and a hard pounding running back, plan on a long season.
|
Quote:
The Steelers will get a few good names in free agency. Besides, they still have a great offensive line to work with, not to mention a tough defense. They should still be contending in the upcoming season, barring injuries of course. I'm looking forward to enjoying that Northern division to be one of the best with all the waves the Browns are making, as well as the Ravens, who just signed Mike Anderson as their RB, replacing Jamal Lewis. |
Quote:
Anyways, there some decent WRs that could somewhat make up for Randle El's leaving (though Special Teams and the WR trick plays may need a lot of help now...): Burleson (Vikings), Price (Falcons/Cowboys), Brown (Patriots), Bryant (Browns), etc. |
You just invalidated your own argument. Randle El contributed to a lot more than just the receiving game.
And, yeah, the defensive losses are pretty big, but they are all replaceable. I don't think Randle El is. |
Well yeah, I'm just saying that Randle El did more on Special Teams instead of being an actual second starting WR.
Well anyways, take Bryant off the list of WRs, he's gone to the 49ers. |
Bryant? Antonio Bryant? Bryant Johnson?
Also, Randle El got waaay more than he was worth. |
Quote:
|
You expected Dan Snyder to show some kind of restraint with his money?
|
Quote:
|
Yeah, he's basically the anti-Rooney at this point.
|
Quote:
And yeah, the 31 million and 11 million in bonuses is a crazy amount, though good for him. Definitely a lot more than the 18 million the Bears wanted to give him. Anyways, I'm guessing the Redskins' depth chart for WR will be Santana Moss, Brandon Lloyd and then Antwaan Randle El. [Edit:] Oh, and I guess some important news. Drew Brees of the Chargers has agreed to a six year deal with the Saints (which means Aaron Brooks will probably be released). Also, Dante Culpepper has been traded to the Dolphins for a 2nd Round Draft pick. |
Alot of new QBs in different cities now.
Brees agrees to six-year deal with Saints Jay Glazer / FOXSports.com Posted: 5 minutes ago Moments after the Dolphins got Daunte Culpepper in a trade with the Vikings, free agent quarterback Drew Brees agreed to a six-year deal with the New Orleans Saints. Financial terms of the deal have not yet been disclosed. Daunte Culpepper finally has his wish. FOXSports.com has learned the Vikings and Dolphins have agreed on a trade with Miami sending a second-round pick to the Vikings in exchange for the Pro Bowl quarterback. The trade is contingent upon Culpepper passing a physical Jon Kitna also signed with the Lions. -New Orleans now has Drew Brees -Miami has Daunte Culpepper -Kitna is a Lion Interesting. |
I guess the Bengals couldn't remember where they stashed Kitna's agent's number. One has to assume they're looking over available veteran quarterbacks to get a replacement (particularly a cheaper one than Kitna would have been).
|
I'm guessing Lions management is tired of waiting for Joey Harrington to come around.
And the AFC East just got a little more interesting. |
Oh, the Titans signed David Givens and Kevin Mawae according to ESPNNEWS.
"Cowboys | K. Johnson released Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:22:17 -0800 The Dallas Cowboys have announced the release of WR Keyshawn Johnson." Meshawn getting cut is awesome. Almost as awesome as Owens getting cut right before 4pm today. |
Eagles and Cowboys may end up trading WR without intentially meaning to.
Cowboys want Owens, which is apparent by Johnson being cut. Eagles need a WR and they can get one in Keyshawn Johnson. |
Vikings | Team changing uniforms
Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:46:00 -0800 Sean Jensen, of the Pioneer Press, reports the Minnesota Vikings will be wearing new uniforms for the 2006 season. Steve LaCroix, Vikings vice president of sales and marketing, confirmed the uniform change, although he declined to say to what extent. "We are working with the NFL and Reebok on some exciting changes for the 2006 season. The process is still continuing, but we'll look to have an unveiling later in the offseason for our fans," he said. Funny, but I don't think it'll help them from sucking. |
Cowboys | Report - Owens agrees to three-year deal with Dallas
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:55:47 -0800 Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, free agent WR Terrell Owens' (Eagles) agent, Drew Rosenhaus, has denied a report from KLBK-13 CBS TV in Lubbock, Texas, that Owens has agreed to a deal with the Dallas Cowboys. While Rosenhaus is denying the report, a source close to Owens has confirmed to FOXSports.com that Owens has agreed to a three-year deal and it will not be announced until the coming days. Shocking news, I know. |
As a Cowboy fan, I can't say I'm entirely pleased with this. Even if I didn't remember the star incident, there is still the way he effectively killed the Eagles last season with his complaining. That's hardly the kind of attitude a team should saddle themselves with lightly, even if Owens is probably the best reciever in the league.
On the other hand, Owens would have to live under Bill Parcells, which will hopefully do wonders for his attitude. |
It won't, TO and Bill won't get along.
Parcells will say something to TO that he'll take personally(like he takes everything) and from then on that marriage will be forever ruined. |
I don't think this will work. TO bitched about McNabb, imagine what he'll say about the qb's in Dallas. I think TO and Bonds should retire now before they have everyone in America against them.
|
I doubt it'll work out in the long run. This signing means the Cowboys, like the Redskins in their division are locked into the "win now" situation. They have built up a roster that will overlap the cap and/or retire within the next 3 seasons. Not that I'm complaining, I have no particular fondness of the NFC East.
By the way, did anyone catch Owens' press conference earlier today? I loved the comment "Just get your popcorn ready!" Enjoy him Dallas fans, I for one am breathing a sigh of relief since he won't be eventually breaking down my team. |
I got my popcorn ready. It's going to be fun to watch things turn sour before the season ends.
|
Well T.O. is usually "good" his first year with a new team. So perhaps the drama won't come until next season *shrugs*. Still, he'll probably do well for the Cowboys, however I doubt even Jones (the owner of the 'Boys) can control him.
|
What a lot of people who live outside of Philly don't know is the problems with TO here actually started in his first season. TO got pissed when McNabb said the team could still make it to the Superbowl without TO(when TO got hurt). For some insane reason TO took offense to that(as he does everything) and ever since then hated McNabb.
TO is insane, and I mean that literally. He is a total nut. He holds PERMANENT grudges against people. Cris Carter once criticized him on TV, and like 2 years later, he went to shake TO's hand at the pro bowl and TO snubbed him. He's a first class self-centered jerk. All it takes is one small incident to make TO lose it. I can see it now: TO drops a catchable pass and Drew Bledsoe tells him to get his head in the game. There goes that relationship. TO will take complete offense to it, and procede to trash Bledsoe in the media after the game, and continue to trash him in the media every single day. One thing about TO is, even though he says he promises to change, TO doesn't think he's doing anything wrong. The things he does, to him are justified. |
What I think will be interesting is when TO plays the Eagles in Philly this year. Oh I can only imagine what he will do to piss the fans off.
|
He'll try, but we'll get the last laugh because he'll have a bad game as he typically does against the Eagles. He only has 2 career TDs against us I think and only averages like 5 catches and 60 yards per game.
He'll be shut down. |
Quote:
|
I think 3, could be more. At least in the Andy Reid era.
Last time he was here Michael Lewis cracked his collar bone. Ouch :edgarrock: |
According to Yahoo Sports:
T.O. has played the Eagles 4 times in his career with 21 receptions, 300 yards, and 3 touchdowns. |
Then the stats they showed on ESPN must've been only in the Andy Reid era. TO was drafted back in 96 so one of those games was probably before Andy got here. I could be wrong.
|
http://nfl.com/news/story/9323440
-- Tagliabue to retire as Commissioner in July A sad day in the NFL |
Indeed. He did a great job with the new NFL deal before he decided to retire. He was great.
|
He definitely left on a high note, with the new CBA. If he was waiting for the best chance to step down, he got it.
|
Quote:
|
Hmmm...
What do you all think about the possibility of Keyshawn Johnson joining the Giants. This would give their offense: Toomer, Burress, Johnson, Barber and Shockey in terms of receiving alone. I just can't see Keyshawn functioning on the Giants though if any such idea does happen. Him working with a third year QB in Manning, and the fact that he would be second to Burress makes the idea of him joining the Giants dismissable. Oh and I <3 irony. Patriots ex-Kicker Vinatieri is going to the Colts lol. |
Burress will not work together with Keyshawn at all. Both are "in the spot light" type receivers and I have no doubt that they would butt heads.
|
Meh.
Well, Mike Vanderjagt is with the Cowboys, and Keyshawn Johnson is with the Panthers. |
I think its amazing how all these veteran players are leaving New England. Seems like that playoff loss really broke their back. So much for their dynasty.
|
Quote:
Quote:
I liked Keyshawn, but as soon as they cut him, everyone knew what was going to happen next. as long as TO scpres touchdowns and beats the SHIT of the 'skins, then i'm happy. just with these 2 moves, Dallas has become one of the favorites in the NFC. |
Quote:
|
The Pats are losing alot of talent. Willie McGinest, Ashworth, Givens, Viniteari (sp), Andre' Davis, Christian Fauria. You can give me the Tom Brady rhetoric for so long, but he needs people up front blocking for him. The draft is still to come, and plenty of free agents are still around. The Pats will have competition next season from the Dolphins and probably the Bills, of course as long as the Bills stay healthy and Culpepper returns to form.
|
Just a little update:
CHICAGO (March 31, 2006) -- Chicago Bears defensive lineman Terry "Tank" Johnson is recovering from surgery to repair a torn quadriceps muscle, an injury that could sideline him for at least four months. (http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/CHI/9349383) MINNEAPOLIS (March 31, 2006) -- Burleson signed an offer sheet last week for a seven-year contract worth up to $49 million, including $5.25 million guaranteed. In response to a similar tactic Minnesota used to sign All-Pro guard Steve Hutchinson to an offer sheet earlier this month, Seattle put a pair of provisions in the deal that would make it impractical for the Vikings to match. (http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/SEA/9350301) NEWARK, N.J. (March 31, 2006) -- The New York Giants and Jets moved a step closer to their new home in the Meadowlands. Officials from New Jersey, the Giants and the Jets said March 31 they've made several changes to an agreement signed last fall that will create a new, $1 billion football stadium in East Rutherford. The stadium is expected to open for the 2010 season and will seat about 81,000. (http://nfl.com/news/story/9349298) By the way NFL fans, NFL Head Coach is on its way out. "IGN: You do so many different things in the game. How do you keep the gamer focused and having fun? Strauser: This is definitely a deep game. We did some math today and figured out that one season could take 20 to 30 hours. That's a lot of time, so when you're talking 30 seasons that's a tremendously deep game. You can sim through most tasks and we have a sim log that keeps you posted on what happened, but the tasks are so different week to week that you want to do them to benefit your team. I'm not going to lie. It's an extremely deep game. You have to be a football fan. This isn't Mario Party and it's not Madden. When I first started playing, I was getting killed by the computer because I wasn't preparing my team. In Madden, you win by your twitch skills and not your football knowledge. You can just take Michael Vick and use the juke stick or playmaker control and win. You don't rely upon playcalling and football skills and preparation and things like that. I have an old Madden T-shirt that says, 'Are you a playmaker?' I put that on the other day and was like, that is so not Head Coach. Here, you're preparing your team, setting them up to make plays." Read the interview in its entirerty here. |
that game sounds like a pretty big gamble. i love the NFL, but i don't play much Madden. NFL HC doesn't seem like any fun. like the guy said, you HAVE to be a football fan. i guess for some die-hard strategy fans, this is a gem, but it's not for me.
|
Quote:
|
i defintiely agree. it's much more of a mental game, than a "button-mashing" game. it's funny, cause my friends love Madden and i've seen the level of detail that's involved in the offseason trades/draft. i never thought there'd be a game solely based on the coaching position!
|
the full NFL schedule comes out at 2pm today. anyone else psyched?? Dallas has had a tough schedule the last few years. it'd be nice if the NFL was lenient to them this year.
But i do know it'll be a steel cage match when they play f-n Philly on CHRISTMAS DAY!!! T.O returns to the disaster he caused last year. if the Philly fans boo Santa, they'll MURDER T.O. Edit: Dallas plays in Philly week 5 (Oct. 8). I guess the city didn't want Dallas in town on Christmas! for them it'd be the equivilent of the grinch coming. |
Colts vs. Giants in Week 1. I've been waiting for this one.
|
Looks like the Redskins are finally starting to get some national TV exposure. Monday night game in Week 1 with Minnesota, then a Sunday night game next week with Dallas and then a Saturday night game with the Giants in the last week of the season.
But other than the required Dallas matchups, nothing looks too exciting =/ At least we got Philly in on the Dallas hatred now. |
3 games within 11 days and a week 4 bye, not to mention cold weather games come December. This'll be interesting.
And how the fuck do the Packers and Raiders each get 4 primetime games? Quote:
|
Quote:
Quote:
I haven't looked in detail at the schedule, but if the packers and raiders have Sunday night games on NBC, w/the new flexible scheduling, they might NOT be on primetime. |
Quote:
I think just being in the same division breeds rivalries. The NFC East is probably the best example of this, they kept Dallas in the "East" after re-alignment in 2002 because of their relationship with the other teams in the division (when other teams, like St. Louis made more sense geographically). Maybe I'm just hyping up the Washington/Dallas one because it's the most dear to my heart (a source of many heartbreaks and joyous moments). |
It's not Snyder. Jerry Jones is a big spender too. Because i'm a life-long Cowboys fan, it my DUTY to hate the 'skins. think of it as Duke-UNC or FLA-UGA. Plus, where I live, the 'skins always get the benefit of being on the tv for the games. I wish the local Fox station would show more Cowboys games.
|
Farve will make his decision today, this morning to be exact. I'm very interested to see if #4 is going to hang it up.
EDIT: Nevermind. |
Quote:
This is a shame. The draft is coming up, and he's putting the Packers in an awkward position. If Farve comes back, they can add to the offense and defense to support him, but if he doesn't then they can go out and see what fits Aaron Rodgers. But since he can't decide, he's basically placing them in limbo. |
Favre's becoming a selfish asshole. make up your g-d mind already!!!
|
He deserves as much time as he wants after everything he's done for that team. People forget what he's done for them so quickly.
|
Farve is not holding them hostage by any means. They have plenty of cap room, and even if Farve retires. he would only cost GB 2mil of a cap hit, so thats no big deal. He has earned his time from this small town. Yes, people are getting impatient, but let him take his time. Its a pretty important decision. I still think he'll come back in about a month, probably after the draft.
The Packers have a replacement ready for him in Rodgers, Reguardless, there still going to pick up the same people and draft the same people, which in all likelyhood would be AJ Hawk at 5th overall, followed by an offensive lineman in the second. They definately have the talent, all that team needs to do is stay healthy. As I recall, they lost pretty much all of their close games last season, so they can overcome a 4-12 season and go 10-6, 11-5 come next season, as long as their healthy and make a few more additions. Theirs plenty of players still out in free agency as well as the draft. |
favre HAS done a lot for Green Bay, but his recent actions tell me he's holding the Packers hostage. I would hate it if Aikman did the same to the Cowboys!
I'm not sure Rodgers will be ready by season's start anyway. From what i remember, Favre did absolutely nothing to help groome Rodgers for the NFL. they might as well be putting in a rookie if Rodgers starts for them. |
Reguardless if he is ready or not, they still do need to sign a QB anyway with only two on the roster, as Craig Nall went to the Bills. The way the Packers move through the offseason, free agency and draft, shouldn't change all that much, if at all even.
|
Speaking of the Packers, the hot rumors floating in Philly are that the Eagles really want Javon Walker, and that Walker wants to be an Eagle as well. Walker and McNabb share the same agent, and work out together in Arizona during the offseason.
Now if only Ted Thompson would trade him already. The rumors are that the Packers are holding out until around draft time to sort things out and then deal him. I want Walker a lot. I don't care if he's coming off an ACL injury either. He's a stud. Would give the Eagles a very good receiving corps. Walker, Reggie Brown, and Gaffney are all young and good receivers. Then you have Pinkston to stretch the field as well, but he's coming off an achilles injury. |
Quote:
- Late last year He said he may retire if the team fired Sherman and didn't want to learn a new offensive system. - Said He's waiting to see how much Thompson improves the team via FA. Who the hell does Lord Favre think he is? Greater than the GM? - He keeps pushing back the deadline when to make a decision. And recently He was quoted "What are they gonna do, cut me?" That's easily a sign of selfishness, and someone who thinks He is greater than the team. And He's hurting the team by not making a decision, when the team could sign a vetern QB. Why would Kerry Collins (or any vetern QB) want to sign with Green Bay if Lord Favre may come back and be on the bottom of the depth chart? Oh, and this is coming from a Packer fan. |
Well news away from Farve.
Moulds was sent to the Texans, so to replace him, Buffalo got Peerless Price once again (if you recall, Buffalo sent him to Atlanta a few years ago). I'm really excited about this upcoming year, so many trades and moves have been made - it's crazy. I'm surprised at how many WRs were moved around: Owens, Johnson, Bryant, Price, Moulds, Randle El, Gaffney, Lloyd, Jurevicious, etc. |
That Moulds news is new to me. i thought he couldn't get along w/the management up there? He's a quality receiver, but to go back to Buffalo doesn't make sense to me.
|
Quote:
I think you meant Price, right? |
T.O didn't show up for the voluntary practice held this past week. Although it was his decision, T.O. MIGHT be making a big mistake by not attending. From what i've read and heard, Parcells expects his players to show up for these camps.
IMO, Owens should have made it to the practice. why? cause it shows your new teammates that you're serious this time. he got a nice chunk of change, he should get acquainted w/at least the Offense. I pray this isn't a sign of things to come in the fall. Jerry Jones vs T.O. vs Coach Parcells... Round 1.... Begin!!! *Closes eyes not to watch* |
Alright we are 6 days to the NFL draft. Rumor has it the Texans are looking at not only Reggie Bush, but Mario Williams as well. I would just dismiss this as hearsay, but the fact that Bush left Texas without any contract negociations taken place, I feel like the Texans aren't completely sold on Bush. They could make a very profitable trade out of that spot and still be picking in the top 5, which could land them D'Brickishaw Fergeson (sp) or Mario Williams. Are the Texans serious about passing up Reggie Bush and what do you all think about this?
|
Favre makes it official, one more season in Green Bay.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2421947 A long time coming. But good to see a choice has finally been made. |
I don't think there's any way the Texans pass on Bush. I personally think Bush will end up being one of the 5 best RBs ever.
|
Quote:
And Miami's resident herbal fanatic just got a year suspension. The whole situation is hilarious to me. Double Post: Quote:
If I'm the Texans, holding Carr, two pro-bowl WRs, and a 1000 yard runner in Dom Davis, I'd much rather trade down a few picks (not out of the top 5 mind you). See if I could get anything lucrative out of a team that is in love with Reggie Bush, along with a top 5 selection, which would still grant me possibly a Mario Williams, D'Brickishaw Fergeson (sp), or AJ Hawk. Did anyone hear about the Raiders new stadium they plan to build? Al Davis was very excited about the plans set forth the by the Oakland city council. http://www2.theraiderssuck.com:8085/.../alcatraz2.jpg |
Quote:
And Charles Woodson signed with the Pack (too bad BucPride :p)! With ZERO signing bonus. His first year salary is $10.5 million because the Pack have so much cap room. In other news, the Vikes new uniform sucks big time. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
Anyways, one more year with the Packers then. I really wish the Packers did more in the off-season. Like, I don't even think they did much of anything really. As for the draft, I'm looking forward to it - at least the first round, though maybe the second as well. I never usually watch past that - though then again, I never actually sit there and watch the draft for hours straight either. *Shrug* We'll see how long I'll last, probably the Top 5-10, and then I'll come back from the final few in the first round into the top couple in the second round. |
If the Packers have a good season, then I don't see why Brett wouldn't come back. The whole reason behind it was that he was afraid of it being not fun anymore, as it was his first losing season in his starting career. If they Packers do well, and look like they could be ready to make a serious run, I'm sure he'd love to stay on. As long as his legs stay in shape, he'll be physically able.
As for the draft, I'll watch until my team picks, then walk away. I'll hang out at the house and chill on the internet or play a game for awhile (since it is a Saturday and I'm usually tired/relaxing before my friends and I play football on Sunday. Its a perfect setup if I miss the pick, because everyone on the Buccaneer boards will post 15 topics on our latest pick. I'm happy for the Packers since we won't be seeing them as much anymore. I can safely root for Farve now. Its too bad about Woodson, but I'm glad we didn't overpay for him as Green Bay obviously did. However, as you said Kaga, they have plenty of money to spare this year, so its not a problem for them. I put the spin on that now, with BK, Ronde, and Juran Bolden all over 30 years old at CB, we will be drafting a young corner or two at the draft *crosses fingers for Justin Wyatt*. By the way, yeah, its Alcatraz. I got the pic of a Bronco board, since its pretty much a 'fuck the Raiders' mentality over there. Its a classic pic of what embodies the Raiders and has for generations, criminal, dirty players. EDIT : Lmao Kaga. I just saw the Viks new uniforms. Those look way too much like what the Cardinals did to theirs, or the NFL equivilant to the Lakers uniforms almost. |
Quote:
|
While it would be great if the Steeler could somehow miraculously pick Lendale White in tommorow's draft, I really think Sinorice Moss is a great steal so late in the first round. He fills the hole that Antwaan Randle El leaving made, and should have a productive rookie campaign. Here's hoping for yet another terrific first round pick by the Steelers. In the last 4 years, we've gotten, in chronological order: Kendal Simmons, Troy Polomalu, Ben Roethlisberger, and Heath Miller. Now that's great management.
|
From ESPN: "Mario Williams signed a six-year, $54 million deal with Houston.
Meet the NFL draft's new leading man. His name: Mario Williams. Houston signed the NC State defensive end Friday night to make Williams the overall top pick Saturday." I don't know why they picked him, the Texans need good offensive linemen. I hope the Texans use their other picks to get offensive players. xman25 |
What is this.
The Texans had already pissed off many local fans by saying they weren't going to draft Vince Young. Now they've pissed off the fans that would have accepted passing on Young if they got Reggie Bush, and pissed away a rushing and recieving threat (and considering how crappy the Texans offense has been, that's not something they can afford to do likely), a potential special teams threat, and all the advertising and merchandise money they would have gotten nationwide with Bush. Why is this the most boneheaded move ever. |
Owned.
But your a Texans fan Styphon? I always thought you were a Cowboys fan. |
Quote:
But it's not like I need to be a Texans fan to know how fucking stupid this was. |
I live in Houston. It's been painful to watch the Texans on offense, especially last season. I was really hoping that the team would take Vince Young. I hope the Texans get a lot of crap for this, the deserve it. I'm worried that David Carr (Texans' QB) is going to die in a game because he is taking too many hits. He needs a line to protect him.
xman25 |
Five years from now this will be heralded as one of the biggest draft blunders ever.
Reggie Bush is a game changer, someone who can instantly make an entire team better. Mario Williams, while a great weapon to have, won't make the Texans any better because the rest of the defense sucks. Common sense tells you that you go with Bush, who can make an instant impact. Now the big question is this: Who takes Reggie Bush now? |
The very next team to pick: The Saints.
|
I find that doubtful - Deuce McAllister is still an effective running back and the Saints have a lot of money invested in him. I find it more likely that the Saints trade away the 2nd pick to other teams for a later 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick to address many other needs that they as a team need.
|
This, in turn, leads us to the new Big Question: do the Titans, with the third pick, go with Young or Matt Leinart?
|
Lord Styphon and Night Phoenix:
I love how you folks think you know better than the Houston Texans on whom to draft. Never mind the fact that NFL teams spend hours upon hours studying college players for months. I suppose if you 2 know so much, then why aren't the both of you working for an NFL team as a scout or GM? Anyway, with the 5th pick, I hope Ted Thompson takes the best player available regardless of position. Don't commit the cardinal sin of drafting: drafting for need. |
Quote:
EDIT : Goddamn fucking shit. I accidently pushed the backspace key and erased the 6 paragraphs I was writing. Damnit, anyway. I'll just throw out my mock of the 1st round. Spoiler:
|
Quote:
Also, the sportswriters appear agree with my opinion in this case. Richard Justice's column on the Chronicle sports section's front page says it all: "Bypassing Bush smacks of stupidity". I would assume that these people, who have been covering sports for years, and who would need to do research on their stories (like ones about draft prospects), would know something about what they're talking about. And what they're saying is that the Texans screwed up royally. Incidentally, BucPride, you specifically mentioned Williams being highly coveted in a 3-4 defense. While I'm not going to argue that point with you, I will point out that the Texans are switching to a 4-3 defense this season, so Williams' potential value in a 3-4 scheme doesn't exactly apply to the Texans anymore. |
I was shocked. I really thought the Texans would take Bush no matter what.
Wow. But yeah, Bush will still end up the top 5 - though nevertheless, ESPN is saying (via Television) that the Saints, Titans, and Jets are thinking of getting Bush. However, if no one trades with the Saints, there's the good chance they're going to go out and grab him. |
And now the mystery is solved. Saints picked Reggie Bush.
|
Quote:
LMAO. My mock I posted is completely raped. Bush at 2 was smart, but Brickishaw just looked better to me. Bush/McAllister is going to be a huge pricetag for the Saints. This'll look attractive for now, but thats alot to chew for one position with only one starter. EDIT: Wow, Cutler is a Bronco... |
Quote:
The Cardinals drafted Matt Leinart. Oddly enough, I predicted they would early on last season. |
Just checking in. Eagles had one of if not the best draft on day one.
I love it, love it. Bunkley and Justice? Unreal. I'm a happy fan right now. |
Well, the Steelers traded up to get Santonio Holmes, the best wide receiver in the draft. Looks to be yet another great first round pick.
|
Quote:
|
I couldn't be happier with Davin Joseph and Trueblood as our offensive line upgrades. With what I've read about these two, I can't wait for TC to start.
|
Kiper was tough on his grades this year. No one got an "A". Dallas got a B-, which was generous. Carpenter's a good player, but to not take Manny Lawson didn't make sense to me. And in Round 2: a tight end?? wtf? First off, Fasano stinks. Pope is a much better end than Fasano. Secondly, why did they draft a TE? Witten's good enough. they could have gotten Youboty w/that pick.
however, i can't get too pissed about their draft b/c the last 3 years have been stellar drafts by the Cowboys. |
To me, its funny when draft experts grade them now. The worst graded team could end up having the best prospects pan out over time. Its all estimated guess work for the most part.
|
I have no idea why the Bucs passed up Mangold or Justice. IMO they needed more help at center and tackle.
Eagles had a great draft, that I loved for once. Bunkley, Justice, Gocong, Jean-Gilles, Avant, Bloom are great additions. I can't wait to see Bloom return punt and kicks. :biggrin: http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6...91965684yk.jpg http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/4160/bloom149zv.jpg |
Quote:
Isn't it a bit weird that every single team passed on Justice, some twice? Obviously, he wasn't one that people considered first round talent. From what I've read about Davin Joseph, I'm thankful we took him. Smart guy with tremendous talent. As for our second round pick, Trueblood at OT, he'll probably compete for the starting job at the very least. The only knock on him was his lack of urgency on a down to down basis. So, I'm sure Gruden can light a fire under his ass and get him to bust his butt on an every down basis. |
Quote:
Andy and Heckert both did extensive homework on Justice, and believe me, they hate bringing in guys with character issues, but they seemed to be really impressed with Justice. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Well, this is interesting for the Dolphins.
Culpepper may not be ready, well 100% ready, by the start of the new season. Ricky Williams is suspended for the whole year. The trade talks for Harrington aren't going as planned. So...what are the dolphins working on? They may sign ex-Va Tech QB Marcus Vick (Michael Vick's younger brother). Now this may be good or bad. Marcus has some issues off the field (and, of course, on the field if any of you watched the bowl game). However, Vick can nevertheless be used at QB or even WR. |
Harrington will get cut eventually, and the Dolphins will pick him up then.
|
Quote:
Are you serious? You and the media know better than the Texans? Get serious. I'm in no position to offer reasons why drafting Mario Williams was the better choice. In fact, I NEVER SAID Williams was the better pick. I said we know nothing about scouting players coming out of college. We don't work for a NFL team. We don't spent 24/7 all year round scouting, attending practices and interviewing players. Making judgment on a draft pick is like judging a game before it has started. |
Quote:
Well it seems that Jags receiver Jimmy Smith is retiring. I just can't believe "He has more receptions than every receiver in the Hall of Fame." Like I wouldn't have thought of the possibility. Though Rice and many others have yet to be eligble for induction or have not been inducted. Though I take nothing from him - he had a great career. He's got a good chance at becoming a Hall of Famer, obviously. |
He'll be in the HoF within his first 3 tries at the most I think. Depends on the classes over the next few years and such.
|
Quote:
|
Since this hasn't been discussed yet, I thought I'd bring it up. It's too funny to miss. Just beautiful proof that the Lions are a soft team, especially Marinelli being as demanding as he is.
Spoiler:
And more belated news on football, Randy Moss fired his agent due to the drug problem he had. Good on ya Randy. Spoiler:
|
So yeah. McNair is going to Baltimore for an apparent 4th Round Pick.
Spoiler:
|
Arizona Cardinals sold out their season tickets this year. Jesus, that franchise is actually showing some signs of life.
|
Quote:
They were number one in passing offense (eigth in total offense, but that was due to being last in rushing and they got Edge now). They're actually starting to look like the 2004 Colts (strong offense and weak defense - they just don't have Peyton Manning). |
The Cardinals are playing in a weak division, and look like they'll finally at long last have a high-powered offense in place. They could contend for a wildcard this year, depending on how Seattle does in the NFC West. Its nice to see the owner inject life into this lackluster, bottemfeeder franchise. No Superbowl titles, but they now have a new stadium and high-profile players in Matt Leinart and Edgerrin James.
I do recall Anquan Boldin having another fantastic season, though I don't know the exact stats. Definately a strong fantasy pick, especially with James in there to draw the coverage off from him a bit. |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhtUo5nj8Vw
Check this out Capo and Wojo, I found this and thought you might like it, even though it is rap. |
Quote:
Haha. That was pretty good. |
Haha, that was hilarious, and, actually, the rap wasn't half bad.
|
Alright folks. We're just about two weeks away from the first training camp opening in the NFL. Any predicitions for the coming year?
|
just talking about the new season is getting me psyched! september can't come soon enough!
Prediction: Dallas wins it all. (Wishful Thinking) AFC East: NE (Still the team to beat) AFC North: If Big Ben is healthy, Pittsburgh. if not, Cincy??? AFC South: Indy (Can Peyton do it THIS time????) AFC West: Tough. i'll say KC. their defense MUST step up. Wild Cards: Denver, Miami??? NFC East: Dallas (Adding T.O. puts them ahead of the pack) NFC North: Chicago (Steve Smith scorched them last year) NFC South: Carolina (Sorry BucPride) NFC West: Seattle (still overrated!) :-) Wild Cards: Atlanta, Arizona??? |
I think Ben will be fine. By the time the season rolls around I think he'll be ready to play at a high level.
The Panthers came one game away from making the Superbowl last year, but this year I think they'll pull through. The addition of Keyshawn Johnson will pay huge dividends for us, I think. It's definitely going to help out Steve Smith a lot. And, it's impossible for Kris Jenkins to get hurt 3 years in a row.... right? :\ I think Carolina is the class of the NFC, even with teams like Washington and Dallas making the moves they did. If they stay healthy, I think Carolina will end up bringing a second championship home this yaer. |
A second championship, when'd they win the first one?
I don't think the Bucs'll take the South. However, if we make the playoffs with the schedule we have, then I'd like to think we'll make some noise. Lets not forget, we continue to have a top five defense year in and out. The Falcons defense won't come around until midseason, despite what ever Atlanta fan will tell you. Since when does a defense go from crap to top 5 starting week one? Thought so. The NFC is a crapshoot. Take your pick. Their are way too many teams that can take it, all depends on health and progression. In the NFC East, Dallas may have gotten TO, but they forgot to grab offensive lineman. I still think they'll probably take the division, with the Redskins or Giants getting a wildcard. Redskins added a bunch of above-average talent, but they don't have any position that is a cut above the rest. Good defense and offense, but not great. The NFC South is an interesting division. I don't think the Bucs'll take it, as the schedule we have looks daunting. We'll compete, but I think Carolina (media darlings thus far -- I haven't seen an 'expert' who hasn't gushed about them yet) takes the division. The Saints and Falcons will compete, and I say this with an OBVIOUS unbiased eye, screw them. Mike Vick will never master the WCO, and he shouldn't be forced to. Good job Mora! Puting a quarterback into a system he'll never understand. Saints'll be dangerous, a Bush/McAllister combo sounds like hell. The NFC West. Seattle. Closed. Arizona may compete for a wildcard, but I won't be sold until they actually do something, as I've heard they'll be good for 3 straight years now. The Rams need to work on giving Steven Jackson the ball more than 10 times a game. The 49ers...well, I think its obvious, they'll be picking in the top 5 next April. And the NFC North. Da Bears. They will actually need an offense, because the Vikings will give them a run for their money, as long as Brad Johnson gets protection that is. He can tear up defenses with time, he proved that here in Tampa Bay. I hope for Marinelli's (sp) sake the Lions see a turnaround of some sorts, but Matt Millen really needs to go before the Lions get out of the celler. And the Packers...heh, well. Who knows. If they stay healthy, why not give them a shot. The AFC North. The Steelers did lose significant players, their first round pick has been in trouble with the authorities a few times already, and each team in their division got better. I think the Ravens have a strong chance, but its pretty much an open division. Each team has a fair shot to take the crown, even the Browns. The AFC South. Colts or Jags, not much else to see here. If Vince Young starts, I'll laugh at the Titan organization for quite some time. If I had to take one team though, it'd be the Colts, but Jacksonville will give them a run for their money. The AFC East. Everyone I've talked to (other than Pats fans) seems to have a hardon for the Dolphins with Culpepper. Its the Pats until proven otherwise, and the Phins'll be in the wildcard race throughout the year probably. Jets and Bills will be looking up at the Pats all year, unless JP Losman finally comes around. In the AFC West, its another four team battle. I think the Chiefs have a great shot personally, thought I give all teams serious consideration when speaking of the playoffs. The Broncos have a team coming off an AFC Title game defeat, the Raiders will actually use Jordan as a AP back instead of 10-15 carries a game like last year, and the Chargers still have LT and one of the best offensive lines in the NFL. Best divisions : NFC South, NFC East, AFC North, AFC West Superbowl 41 : Indianapolis Colts (the most clutch kicker, and could finally get that final push in the postseason) vs. Seattle Seahawks (I don't see why they can't get back there) Champion : Colts (Wow, I feel like I work for ESPN) |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5809914
Ty Law has found a new home. Do you guys think this is a huge deal, or will it be of little consequence? Discuss. |
It'll help the Chiefs as it would give them Ty Law and Patrick Surtain at the CB positions. Ty Law had some 60 tackles and about ten interceptions so it'll help a lot.
The problem is age - 32 and 30 respectively, though I do find it interesting that Ty Law followed Edwards from the Jets to the Chiefs. |
Another problem is the fact that Law's coming off a nasty injury. how will he recover? since he's up in age, will he be 100% by season's start? hmm....
an upgrade, yes. anything to help the porous defense of the Chiefs is a must for the team. |
Speaking of big injuries, LeCharles Bentley of the Browns is out for the year. In their first 11 on 11 practice today, he got hurt and is now projected to be out for the year. As you may recall he became the highest paid center ever in the history of the NFL.
A tough blow for the Brownies. Double Post: Closing this thread as the 2006 offseason is over with teams reporting to training camp and the preseason beginning next weekend. |
| All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:16 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.