Veronica Mars season 3: The best show that you might not be watching yet
 

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Veronica Mars is one of the best-written series on American television today. Rob Thomas, the writer and creator of the show, is downright awesome; almost every single line is hilarious, yet the interaction between the cast members is very realistic and doesn't seem forced. It's a great balance between college drama and neo-noir (Brick), or teenage noir, as it's sometimes called.

Of course, even if the actual show was terrible, it would still be worth watching just for Kristen Bell.

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Season 3 premiered on October 3, on CW (Sun TV in Canada). Some YouTube clips from the first episode:

The new intro
...Qu'est que c'est? Frack?
Some girl going wild? As I understand it, it happens all the time in college!

Season 2 gag reel (A+, recommended viewing)
Kristen Bell on Late Late Show (October 2)

Download episode 3x01!

The new intro caught me off-guard. I was like, "Did someone put LSD in my coffee or is the music slower?"

A long tiime agooo... wee uuused to beee frie-rrnnnn....

Then the walls starting melting and stuff.

I liked the episode, by the way. The BSG shout-out was cool, even though I don't watch that show. I just like how VM has that way of letting us dorky viewers know that the writers get where we come from. Fan-servicey goodness. The mystery of the week was decent, I like Piz so far, and don't mind the annoying roommate since she serves her purpose. She's so the girl who changes right in front of you. I was surprised by the twist in the subplot with Veronica's dad. That was pretty blunt, which means good. What's going to happen there, and who the hell is raping chicks, man?

Also, I didn't mind when Logan was all sweaty and shirtless in the afterglow. Nor did I fail to infer homoerotic implications between him and his precious Dick. I guess there's no more Weevil? That would be a bummer for me.

Veronica still seems like the ever-smug anti-heroine, which I like. Yay for beotches!

A lot of people hate the new intro, but I kinda like it. I'd like get the full version of the remix.

Weevil will definitely be back, since, well, he's in the main credits. I'm just not sure when; IMDB lists him for episode 4.

Mark me down as a fan of the show :D I literally finished the last 2 discs of Season 2 before the premiere of 3 aired last Tuesday.

Great use of color (gotta love all the stained glass used in the sets), great characters, storylines/mysteries, etc.

And yeah, the intro did catch me totally off-guard, but after watching it a second time it's growing on me. If anything, the 1st episode proved that the show can succesfully move to college without skipping a beat. Straight into the meat of things and saving the recaps for conveniently placed conversation.

The only thing that really confused me was Keith's sub-plot with the random guy and Kendall. I suppose there'll be more explanation about that as the season progresses, since they didn't really bother explaining much about the situation other than what the dialogue revealed.

I started watching Season 1 of it this week, and am almost done with it. Hopefully I can finish Season 2 next week as I catch up with Season 3 this season. One my roommates got me into the show last semester, but I never got around to marathoning it. Now I am. <3

I'm on my library waiting list for the Season 1 DVDs, but Season 2 was pretty interesting. Really screwed up people in that town, seriously.

And I think the direction on this show is definitely good. There's definitely a type of graphic novel, noir type of writing that I like, too.

I don't remember seeing Lamb in the last episode. That's crazy.

I wasn't a fan of this show for a long time actually. One of my friends loved it and I kinda brushed it off because I watch a ton of shows religiously throughout the week. Anyway, last week I saw Season 1 at Best Buy for 20 bucks so I thought I would bite and after the first disc I was hooked and after I marathoned season 1, I had to run out and get Season 2. And I finished in time to start watching season 3.

This show has so many different qualities that make it so good. It has teenage drama, very funny situations, and mysteries that give it a dark, film-noir (television-noir? lol) feel. The character Veronica is someone you root for and she stands up for what she believes in (as in choosing to stick by her dad, rather than her friends), but at the same time, she's selfish, sassy, and makes a ton of mistakes along the way.

Season 3 is a little less exciting than Season 1 and 2 started as, because within the first episode or so, they set up the big mystery of the season. Season 1 being the "Who killed Lilly Kane?" and Season 2 being, "Why did the bus crash, who did it, and why?" But Season 3 is good so far, I'm glad they added Mac as a regular on the credits. I really liked her scenes with Veronica and Beaver, until he....you know....



Anyway, I'm not sure if I like the new character Piz. Obviously there is going to be some clashing between Logan and Piz over Veronica. Even though I really don't like Logan....I didn't like Duncan either.......The only boyfriend I liked for Veronica was Leo.

Finally, sweet vindication >:

I <3 Veronica.

Anybody have any theories yet?

I'm no good at guessing at whodunnit's. If you are referring the who did the rapes....I don't think we have enough information to even begin to guess who it might be. I don't think it was the RA with the Battlestar Galactica obsession.

The new season is just weak and they totaly screwed up the opening. CW still didn't order a full season on top of that and so far it's not looking pretty good for this show.

Wow, I have to say I was fairly shocked how I said I don't think the RA was the rapist and he basically was helping the rapist. Anyway, even though the future of the show is up in the air right now especially since we have to wait now for the word on whether or not it's going to continue or be cancelled. Either way, I think Veronica's adventures are done past this season. It makes me sad, but the CW just doesn't know what is good obviously. Even Rob Thomas, the creator, was worried about the future of the show.

Anyway, I think this episode was absolutely fantastic. It was just as thrilling as Season 1's big "Case Solved, but now Veronica has to escape Crazy Aaron Echolls." And as for LoVe.....they were a little deceptive when they said some stupid promo that said LoVe/Piz=? because there were really no scenes of Piz moving in on Vernoica. As for the direction Logan is taking, I don't quite understand why he broke up with her in the first place. Did he know that she was going to catch the rapist and he was going to do his best to get his revenge on the rapist and not involve Veronica? I dunno, let's hope that the season gets the full order of episodes it deserves.

I want to pick up Seasons 1 & 2 whenever they both come out (I know Season 1 is out, but I dunno about season 2)... Actually there are several shows I want to get, but this is another one of them.

I gotta give kudos to getting some of the Buffy Cast to appear in one way or another and broaden their acting horizons, and not get type-cast (Which happened anyway to Ms. Hannigan, but watcha gonna do?).

The show's realistic approach to teenage affairs from a female perspective, going into places normally not approached, and NOT FOCUSING on that its not usually approached (At least from what I've seen, but my memory is a bit fuzzy :p ) is another reason I like the show. Doesn't hurt that Kristen Bell is cute/sexy (She flips back and forth between adorably cute and Hot/Sexy from my perspective).

Fucking figures. Every show that I've gotten into recently other than 24 and Lost has either been canceled, or was already canceled. I really hope this doesn't get canceled, since I'm becoming increasingly afraid that Lost is going to jump the shark, if it hasn't already, leaving Jack Bauer as the only good constant on TV (And the show has been getting progressively better since Day 4, so Day 6 will hopefully be KICKASS.)

I'm sick of this shit. People need to get some fucking TASTE!

Actually, ummm, LOST is just on hiatus right now...they do it every season, but this season they're just doing it for 13 weeks which sucks. Anyway, the show isn't cancelled yet. It was ordered for the first...I don't know how many episodes there have been, and the future past that is pretty dependent on how it did in ratings and if the CW isn't feeling like a douche.

And Dark Nation....both seasons 1 and 2 are on DVD, season 2 has been out for a few months now.

EDIT: Okay, I feel like an idiot for reading that wrong JasonTerminator.... =P. Yeah, I'm glad this season I really just stuck with my shows that I know will be around for awhile.....

Fear not, Fellow Veronica Mars fans! The show's back 7 episodes have been picked up, at least according to the show's creator, Rob Thomas.

Ta-Da!

Loved the arc-finisher tonight, by the way. The suspenseful episodes always get a rise out of me. Oh, and unicorns ftw! I am sorta disappointed that

Spoiler (highlight to read):

they killed off Dean O'Dell. His character was starting to grow on me.

Ah well.

Anyway, It's odd that they didn't pick up the whole season, so I'm somewhat worried about the show's long-term future, but at least it's not over just yet. I really wish CW would realize that this is easily the best show on their network right now, but I guess people are still too into shit like the One Tree Hill and such for them to realize it.

I'm in a terrible situation here: There is no local CW affiliate! The WB and UPN affilate (same channel) decided to air FOX filler programming instead of CW stuff. It's a real shame! People are pretty mad here.

Really?? Awesome! I've been getting single episodes at a time of the new season, but I wonder if I could get Seasons 1 & 2 together in a bundle or something, so that it would be cheaper. Or maybe someone could trade it to me, I dunno :p.

Anyway if CW kills off this show I'll be really disappointed. Who watches One Tree Hill anyway?

The 16-19 crowd who are in high school and transitioning into college probably are the likely candidates of One Tree Hill. Same with the OC....though I admit to watching alot of the OC, but after Season 1, I just didn't like it the same way. VM seems to have a wider range audience considering Micheal Ausiello at TV Guide is a fan and he turns people onto the show through him always talking about how awesome it is and people should be watching.

Yeah, it has the nerd followings of Kevin Smith and Joss Whedon as well.

But that's what I don't understand, since the show has a BILLION things to appeal to different people. You've got love drama, geek references, neo-noir, really hot chick as the lead, high-school college environment...That basically hits every group of CW's core audience, so I really don't understand why it hasn't become as popular as it should.

Veronica Mars just isn't as publicized and hyped as it could be. You barely see cast members getting on talk shows or TRL or such places that would be easy to get viewers from, whereas with One Tree Hill, Supernatural, Smallville, etc. you see them regularly going on shows geared towards teens. Then a show like Gilmore Girls is fairly publicized, but it's had a loyal large following all throughout the show. VM just hasn't had any of that. I've seen Kristin Bell on a couple shows before....what did she promote.... that movie Pulse when it came out. I don't remember her ever mentioning VM or talking about that so it was kind of a bad move.

I hope that the CW doesn't cancel this. I thought season 1 was probably one of the most entertaining seasons I've ever watched of any show. I didn't like season 2 too much, but I felt this season got back to where it was in its first year.

I find it a bit odd. Kristen Bell gets more press than Lauren Graham or Alexis Bledel ever did for Gilmore Girls in the beginning and the CW has stuck by that through 7 seasons despite always being named in TV Guide as "The Best Show You're Not Watching". I think the CW would be hard-pressed to find a better replacement, and it would be stupid to dump it with Gilmore Girls in its final season. It's true: how can you keep One Tree Hill who has no writing, no acting, no plot, nothing but pretty people who look nice on magazine racks, but cancel Veronica Mars?

And it is kind of like NBC with Studio 60 (though they announced a full season). Studio 60 can't and won't beat CSI: Miami and there is no chance that a CW show will take down House and Law and Order. They lucked out with CBS throwing up it's crappy new show, but still. Be realistic here.

Anyway, I just watched this week's episode...very good mid-season cliffhanger. Better than any this year from what I've seen.

I just saw this on Yahoo while I was reading up on Veronica Mars:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds40167.html

I'm glad to see that the episode got good ratings....maybe there is hope for another season beyond this one. But I agree that it's a much better show than some of the stuff. Gilmore Girls isn't a bad show, it's actually pretty good sometimes and it has a loyal following, much like Veronica Mars does though the following is smaller than that of GG.

I'm glad someone brought up the Studio 60 crap. It's interesting....but it should have been cancelled. All we can really do is hope they don't cancel something that is actually good, but that's just the fate of TV shows sometimes. The good stuff goes, the bad stuff stays.

Finally, Aardark....I love that little gif.....I just those Logan was crazy when he did it and then they showed him in the cell with Mercer and then I just said, "Uh-oh." I think I'm gonna change my avatar and sig to a VM themed one to support the Veronica Mars cause.

While I was looking up those ratings, I noticed Studio 60 was the 6th most TiVoed show last week, which means that people want to watch it, but can't when something else they'd like to see is on (Monday Night Football is still out there too). It didn't break down demos, I'd bet Veronica Mars is up there in the age group.

Haha, great gif Aardark. That episode was, imo, the best yet this season and I feel that for the most part they are just getitng better and better as the season goes along.

As with many of you, this is my favorite show that is currently on tv right now and would really like to see it go beyond season 3. And because I haven't really heard anything concrete yet as to whether or not the show is slated for a full season, can anyone answer this? Is it scheduled for a complete season yet? Or is it still just 13 episodes or whatever with a possibility of 22?

It's scheduled for 20. I'm not sure why they'd leave off the last two...I mean, what better would the CW have to show?

Well the CW is sure they have better programming...I mean who wouldn't want to watch One Tree Hill, America's Next Top Model, Smallville (I'll argue this one a bit, I've liked it on and off, but I'm kind of liking this season.), and the highly overdrawn 7th Heaven. *sarcasm* Just a side topic....why in the world would the CW resurrect 7th Heaven because the odds of it going for another season past this one is low. Veronica Mars is their smartest show, Gilmore Girls used to have some smart, quick humor, but it really feels just like recent pop reference humor.

Gilmore girls I never got into, and have not even considered 1 Tree Hill (Although to be fair, I did watch 1 episode of both, at least to see the content therin).

Smallville I DO like and watch when I remember to.

By the way, what episode are they up to now? I want to start getting the latest episodes to watch later.

Ummm, the last one was called Static....I think S06E06?

Edit: I take that back, I looked it up and it was episode 8, not 6. Btw, I love the fact that the Martian Manhunter is going to come into the picture soon. And am I the only person who thinks that you shouldn't have someone play Jimmy Olsen...if they played a freak of the week back in season 1....

Hey folks... anyone know when the next new episode of VM is gonna show? (January?)

I haven't watched TV in forever, so I was sad when they started episode 1 of S3 last night hehe.

That was Shawn Ashmore, the person who plays Jimmy is his twin, Aaron Ashmore.

I really didn't know he had a twin.... I've seen them in so many things and never paid attention to the names. Still though, isn't it the least bit strange to have Jimmy Olsen played by the twin of a freak of the week.

Yeah, TV.com lists the next episode as January 23, where it, and everyone else, will be slaughtered by American Idol and House for the rest of the season.

Yeah, it's not a great time for VM to return if people want to give it a fighting chance for another season. I have to say that now that someone points out American Idol....VM is probably done for. Maybe not though, hopefully not.

Well, after the first few weeks, American Idol's hour will be against Gilmore Girls and House against Veronica Mars. But a rerun of House from season #1 (my favorite House episode, coincidentally) was the #1 show last night and #5 last week. I wouldn't be surprised if House wasn't the #2 show the entire run of American Idol -- it will certainly be Top 5.

As much as the American Idol stuff sucks, I hope it doesn't change nights (Unless it goes to Thursday), since Monday conflicts with 24 and Wednesday conflicts with Lost.

I'm not saying those go for the same demos as VM, but those are the other two shows I currently follow on TV (Except for Dexter, but I can't watch that on broadcast anyway.)

So apparently, the ratings for the last episode were good enough for the CW to begin considering Veronica Mars' post-season 3 plan...
So what would everyone think about the elimiation of the mystery arcs? I wouldn't really mind the loss, to be honest. I've been becoming less and less engaged with the "big mystery" ever since we discovered who killed Lily Kane. And I'd really hate for the show to force Veronica into every big mystery through personal or related tragedy.

The character arcs, however, continue to intrigue me, and those aren't in danger of going anywhere... so I think I'd be alright with a restructuring like the one RT alluded to.

I agree, it's not a huge loss to stop doing the big mysteries and focus on individual episode mysteries. I didn't mind it either, it didn't take away THAT much from the show. They would still have the episode mysteries, but on the side, Veronica would find out something about the big case. But I think in Season 2 and even further in season 3, they were just juggling too much info. There would be a big case, the episode case, and in season 2 they really added the drama with Logan and Duncan.

Hopefully with this though, they make Veronica a little less of a bitch. She's just not like she was in the seasons before.

The odd thing is...if that is the direction Rob Thomas wanted to go with the show, why did he set up another big case with this fall finale? Everything about Dean O'Dell was set up as a huge mystery and if they go and solve it within an episode or two, that will be quite a let down.

Season 1 had a perfect balance of single-episode stories and the whole ongoing mess. I'd like to see them go back to that type of storytelling.

Yeah, no kidding. I love season 1 because it traverses the Lily Kane mystery in addition to the weeklys without missing a beat.

And as for the Dean O'Dell mystery... I sure as hell hope they ride it for at least a few weeks. I still haven't washed out the aftertaste of that "briefcase mystery". They seemed to scrap that story together and dismantle it just as quickly just so they could end S2 with a cliffhanger. Not to my liking.

Well RT had the season mapped out how it would go in terms of the big mysteries. But when the CW ordered a limited pickup, he had to cut big mysteries, and now with the announcement that there aren't going to be big mysteries anymore, he's even more limited to what he can do in terms of solving the Dean O'Dell case. Perhaps Veronica will just back off while her dad investigates...she is a busy girl in college after all, she should start acting like it every once in awhile.

*super bump for one of the best but underrated shows on tv*

well i've finally caught up to the series. and it's finally back on continue which is a good thing for me. i guess not having one main mystery for the whole season is okay, but yeah it's been great (especially like that new opening theme).

so yeah, about that dean case. who do you think did it? i'm pretty sure it's gotta be someone we know. i don't think they'd introduce another main character, though they did introduce that other rapist a bit late into that last arc...

Yay, VM discussion!



Btw, I loved last weeks episode. It had a fun case and I LOVED the stuff with Mac and the animal rights guy. Plus some of the humor is back with all the interaction between Veronica, Parker, and Mac. The only thing I hate about Veronica is how she keeps going back to Logan. I really don't like her with Piz either for that matter, but she did break Piz's heart when he offered to buy breakfast and all of the sudden she's back with Logan. At least, she realized that Piz was hurt by the fact that she was back with Logan.

I do declare, is that a two-parter mystery of the week?

To be honest, Veronica Mars has been on a downward slope for me this season, but this episode makes it all better.

Lots of developments, both character and plot-wise. The departure of mopey Logan! The (brief) return of Wallace! Plus... elevator scenes! Veronica Mars does the best 30 seconds of forced interaction of any show I've watched.

I had to nitpick the fact that you cannot do online Mario Kart on GameCube, but props to the screenwriters for getting the rest of the game-related material correct. I hate when I'm watching a movie or tv show and I notice a character "playing" a game that emits random beeps and boops from Atari's day and age.

My girlfriend just broke up with me... time for online Mario Kart!

Happy Valentine's Day to those of you in this exact situation.

That would be kind of depressing if you watched this show and your girlfriend broke up with you, considering this season is all about Veronica and Logan breaking up and getting back together every other episode. Anyway, this weeks episode wasn't terrible, but it wasn't good either. It just doesn't have the same edge it used to. That doesn't mean there havn't been good episodes this season though. Obviously the Hearst-rape case solved episode was fantastic and the hooker with a heart episode was just great, but most of them have been real clunkers.

I haven't been too caught on with the episodes after the rape mystery. They haven't been as intriguing lately. But there are only a few more episodes left, so it should begin picking up again after this case in next episode hopefully.

Oh forgot to mention, LoVe as boyfriend/girlfriend is actually over for awhile to make way for Pizonica. Logan and Veronica will remain friends and according to Michael Ausiello, he's going to ask permission from her before "shtupping" one of her best friends. We can obviously guess that it won't be Mac.......so Logan is going after Parker?

Uh-oh. Is Rob Thomas finally gonna give the HoYay fans what they want? Logan and Weevil. Together at last. Quote me on this.

Actually, don't.

LoVe (or the prospect of it) had me all over the spoilers last season. Now, though, I'm more-or-less indifferent. The drama the writers create... seriously, they're gonna run out of people for Logan to sleep with sooner or later.

Piz is fine, I suppose. I don't see why Veronica always has to be dating someone, but I can deal. However, Parker is a walking cliche. And I think her significance as a character fizzled once the rape case was solved. That sounds mean, but frankly, she's not interesting.

Lol, the most far-fetched combination was the HoYay one. Anyway, I agree, he's gonna run out of people to "shtup" and admit it to Veronica sometime soon. And I agree, Veronica needs to just stop dating for awhile. I only liked her with Leo as I've stated before and she had to get him fired! Btw, isn't there a character named Wallace in this show? I can't quite remember because I think he's dissappeared or something *exaggeration*. Apparently there's going to be a mystery-of-the-week with him involved so hopefully we'll see him again.

Anyway, I kind of agree about Parker. They made her kind of unique and then after the rape was solved, they just kind of blended her in with the furniture so-to-speak.

All this Veronica talk makes me want to have a VM DVD Marathon this weekend.

Oh my. That episode was crazy. I never thought he would actually die. Well, there's a new sheriff in town. =p

Next episode looks intense, and the season will finally pick up with the awesomeness. I wonder how it will play out given the professor's background and all.

Ahhh, I feel kind of mixed about Lamb dying. He was a huge jerk, but even Veronica and Keith wouldn't want him to actually die. The new shift in power is going to be very interesting. Now Keith has the authority to do a lot more.

I just want to know who bugged the professor, unless I totally didn't listen and they revealed it in the episode. I think it might have been Vinnie or Tim.

Lamb's character turned into something so one-note that I don't think I'll miss his absence. I will, however, mourn Michael Muhney's wasted potential.

Remember that scene, in season 2, where Lamb went into Meg's family's house and discovered the hidden room in the closet? He then alluded to being abused by his father as a child. That's, like, the only character development they ever gave Lamb. The rest of the time he just played a crappy foil to the Mars' plans. A pity.

Oh, and I don't like Keith in sherrif garb. Just my opinion.

The more I look at Lamb, the more I kind of miss him. He was snide and crude and mean and corrupt at times, but in the end (not particularly his literal end) he would end up willing himself to give a little leeway to Keith, though there was the added bonus that if he did find anything in a case, he would end up getting credit for it.

I think although Lamb was underdeveloped (I agree with the Meg storyline and it just dissappeared....there was something about that story that the character seemed to take a little further than a police officer would.), he was a good character. He wasn't a villain. Aaron Echolls was a villain. Cassidy "Beaver" was a villain. Lamb wasn't. He did his job, though it was sloppy at times, but he was only as corrupt as the city of Neptune is. I mean the first scene with Wallace and Lamb telling him to go see the Wizard, he was even afraid of the biker gang because he ultimately couldn't do anything about them.

Haha. Called it. Case closed. =/

AwesomeMars is on hiatus now until April. :(

WHAT?!

How the fuck is any show supposed to get good ratings with two hiatuses? Seriously, I'm gonna get pissed if VM gets canceled this year.

Especially without a cliffhanger making me want to see the rest of the season. I thought that this murder case was gonna be the main story thread through till the end, but I guess they're going to come up with a whole new separate one for the last 6 episodes? There isn't even anything brewing like there was in the last episode of the 1st part. The preview for May 1st's episode pretty much looked like "fun in the sun, with paintball guns"

Yep, In a drastic effort to save VM, Rob Thomas has pitched a time skip of VM where Veronica would be working for the FBI. Apparently the head person at the CW really liked it, but the ratings havn't been stellar. HOWEVER, with the cancellation of Gilmore Girls, they are losing a big show so they can't afford to lose shows like Gilmore Girls and Seventh Heaven. VM might just have a fighting chance now. And yes, no more season long mysteries, it's a case by case basis and I feel like that's a lot better than a season long case. The only season it really worked for me was season 1.

So will what's-his-face-guy who just returned to work at the sherrif's office be in the FBI season as Veronica's partner? Because grrowrr.

LOL, Leo? I agree with your grrowrr if it means you love that lovely Italian man. But the answer is....probably not. Actually if V makes the move a couple years ahead...the odds of any of the people that are on now besides Kristin Bell are in danger of not being in the series. Yes, even daddy Mars is in trouble. My BIG complaint though is the fact that Pizonica got the go ahead....and Chris Lowell is leaving for the Grey's spinoff. It's better for his career and I'm sure since the show is in danger, there weren't any contractual obligations past filming the last episode.

I can't imagine there not being some of the same characters appearing at least some of the time in the next season. Surely the badboy, Logan, or the badboy, Weevil, or perhaps the older badboy, Lamb. Whose plans is she going to foil? Real criminals like serial killers and stuff? Sounds kind of serious.

Um, Sheriff Lamb is dead.

And more on-topic: Get rid of Piz and bring back in Leo. He's always been my favorite boyfriend for Veronica.

Shows how much attention I've been paying. He seemed like a keeper, but I guess if Sheriff Mars won't be in the next season then there's no reason to keep Lamb around for him to play with.

One reason it'd make sense for Leo to be brought back and carried over to next season is that he already has a career in criminal justice. It would make sense for him to run into Veronica in the future, and then fall madly in love and vow never to wear a shirt again.

Cancelled

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/0....ap/index.html

also: lol

The reports that I read on Veronica Mars (other than that one) says that it isn't on the fall schedule, but they haven't cancelled it yet, and that it might be renewed in the next month or so, possibly as a midseason replacement or Summer 2008 show.

Is the CW fucking insane? I wouldn't be surprised if one of the big 4 picked up Veronica Mars.

Well here is the lowdown on the future of VM. Dawn Austroff (Not sure if the last name is right), the president of the CW has cancelled VM in it's current form. If by some slim chance Rob Thomas can get a working version of future FBI Veronica written and actually make it good, then, and remember VERY slim chance, it might get picked back up in that form. The odds of that are low...so it's okay to just start mourning now...it was cancelled on my birthday =(. What a bad birthday present, but then I went to see Cirque du Soleil and then that cheered me up a bit....then back to mourning.

However, some good news. There is actually talk of a VM big-screen movie...not a typo either. I can't imagine VM as a movie, but eh, it's better than just hearing nothing of future closure for VM fans. Check Ausiello's section on tvguide.com.

About the ending now, I thought it was somewhat poetic. The series began with Veronica and Keith only have each other to rely on, Keith was forced out of his job as sheriff and Veronica was the hated girl in school. That all changed then the ending brought them back to all that. I liked the last scene of Veronica going to vote for her dad, it just reinforces the theme of that father/daughter bond that you don't see on any other tv shows.

I enjoy watching Veronica Mars when I can catch it, but I never seem to catch it when it's on for some reason. Honestly, I am surprised they were able to stretch the concept this far however, but they seem to be have a good go of it.

I would be really surprised if any of the big 4 could pull their heads out long enough to pick up a show of this quality. Next on their list is some sort of show that includes: suitcases, dancing, celebrities, singing, making people do tasks in some sort of team against each other, and eating stuff that isn't meant to be eaten. :rolleyes:

There's is no way another network would pick it up. It's just one of the shows that are smart, get put on tv for a couple seasons, then gets yanked for various reasons. speculative is very much right about network TV, viewers just enjoy the dumbest concepts *cough* ABC upfronts Cavemen about the Geico Cavemen *cough*. Don't get me wrong though, it will fail miserably, but it will still draw millions of viewers....sad.