Dating for musicians...?
 

Here's my problem. I meet girls, and some of them are so damn hot, good looking, cute, but I date them and then I realize... they will never hear sound the way I hear it. And call me an elitest, but when I realize that they will never hear music as beautifully as I hear it, I look find myself looking down on them, believing that my perspectives on life are of deeper and greater meaning than theirs.

So what kind of girls do you all date? I don't know what I'm looking for anymore. I mean, I'd love someone who could play violin/piano duets with me, but I find these girls so rare (or at least where I live) to have talent and good looks... or when I find them, they are so jaded by society they don't really give a shit to use the talent they have. But recently I met a girl, REAL pretty, and very attractive. Great personality and conversationalist, but she can't keep rhythm, nor can she play an instrument... or sing! sigh. Maybe I should just settle? :eyebrow:

That is... wow... honestly that is one of the most arrogant things I've ever heard, Rocket. I'm a musician myself, and I winced when I read this. This isn't a matter of not finding the right woman, it's about having a glaring character flaw and alienating people with it. You need to relax and come down off your high horse a little.

Solution: date your Sigur Ros cds. sure, your parents will complain at first, but they'll come to realize that it's for the best.

Edit: wow, the more I think of it, the more lol it becomes. You can't date chicks because they don't notice how bad mp3s in 128 kbs are? What sort of defective are you?

Well rocketdog, I think it might be good that if you found a girl that you really liked you could introduce her and develop her inclination towards classical music. Nobody's perfect in this world. Of course, it would be an added bonus if your other half could play an instrument. Nevertheless, you could also teach her - its never to late to start music. If all else fails, should could try to conduct the make-believe Russian National Orchestra (which is actually the Hi-Fi system playing a Minus one music) while you hammer away at the Rach 3! :)

Well, don't you feel like the woman you date shouldn't at least have the ability to comprehend music? Or am I really being a dick here? Like seriously, let me know, cause obviously I can't tell =/

I admit that I prefer it if she can talk music with me, but I also prefer it if she digs Final Fantasy VI. However, I don't need it for a functional relationship. By basically stating "if she doesn't dig on musical theory, I can't respect her" you're saying that she has to bend to your habits, your hobbies. Why is it that important? Maybe she knows more about philosophy than you, or literature. Is it fair for her to say you don't understand Richard Rorty's treatise on language as it relates to personhood, so you're beneath her? I'm just saying that what you need to do is find a middleground, rather than forcing them into this tiny little box you've created. You can't learn something from your partner if they're identical to you, mate. Embrace the differences, enjoy music the way you want to, and don't expect everyone to understand it. It's something that's unique to you, and not everyone can have that. Just enjoy music in your own way, try and let them see what it does for you, and if they get it, great... if not, don't push it. Just relax and enjoy them for their qualities, instead of trying to enjoy them for yours.

TQP or Sewers?

I'm feeling benevolent, TQP it is... for now.

You know I totally know what you mean. Ok I wouldn't say no if she just tells me that music isn't important part to her but when I break out a chords and scales as warm up and then she tells me how nice that peice I played was is shattering, Not the fact that she's just compimenting me on scales but because it doesn't matter what sort of peice I play for her its going to be 'just notes' and later she'll go back to her hiltop hoods and her top 30 charts.

But at the end of the day I play music cause I like it and don't give a shit if people arn't lining up to see me play but still it would be nice to share a bit of Debussy with a woman who appreciated it.

Oh and go out with hot chicks woh don't get real music cause you might eventually convert them.

Ok... I LOVE stock car racing. And it would be great to have a girl that is very interested in it as well, or at least enjoys it. But guess what? There aren't many out there...

As a result, I don't think about whether she races a car or not, or enjoys the races. I look at other things. Does she have a personality I am attracted to? Is she funny, caring, and concerning? Does she understand my feelings, and do we get along well?

Its stuff like that. At the very least, look to see if she is open towards it. Such as my case, if she doesn't know about it, at least I need to know she is open towards learning about it, and possibly begin to enjoy it and become involved with it.

So basically what you're saying is that no girl could ever hear or appreciate music the way you do? If I'm wrong, please correct me. If I've got it right, WHAT THE HELL. I know plenty of females with musical ability.

Like Deni, I WINCED at your opening post. In fact, I had to calm myself down by the end of the posts (wherein I encountered Alice's post and calmed down immediately.)

I really can't imagine DATING a guy like you. Someone who thinks that they have music all figured out.

Look, I know that a woman with NO appreciation for music would be annoying, but I am sure you're being a little over-the-top here. It's insane for you to say that no woman you know can appreciate music like you do.

Maybe you should stop chasing the hot tail and look into a person's character instead of her clevage. Maybe you'll actually find what you're looking for in the perfect body.

A person is not their taste in music. Someone liking a certain kind of music says nothing about their character. It's just their taste, and that's subjective. But thinking you're better or smarter than someone because of their taste in music does say something about your character.

I think everybody has qualities that must be present in their partner, and that's fine. If someone wants to start a family, then obviously their partner has to want that, too. Some people won't marry outside of their religion. That sort of thing.

Taste in music, by comparison, is a pretty shallow dealbreaker.

By the way, are you into classical music, rocketdog? I've noticed classical fans, moreso than any other group of listeners, tend to have that elitist kind of attitude. You know, where they ONLY listen to classical music and nothing else. Every other kind of music fan hates that and tend to look at the close-minded classical fans as dorks. Sorry if that's not you, but I sort of wanted to get that off of my chest anyway.

He seems to be saying that, so far, he has not found any that have a musical understanding near to what he has; or those that do, don't have nearly the same passion as he does for it. I don't know how anyone is getting the idea that he is bashing all women, saying that it is not possible for them. He is just stating his experience.

Rocketdog, you just have to decide how vitally important this is to you and the relationship that you would like to build. If you decide that it is very important (though some may ridicule you for the apparent absurdity of this decision), then it is not a good idea to settle. However, if the girl you are interested in is also interested in developing an understanding of music similar to your own, then that also may be good.

Also, should you decide this is very important, don't be too picky if you should find someone who somewhat fits the bill. For example, if the ignorance is glaringly obvious, like she doesn't even know what a scale is, and couldn't care less, then I can understand. You might as well drop her. But if you get up in arms over the fact that she doesn't know all the chord changes to Wagner's Tannhauser, then definitely get your head out of your ass.

Quoting for further emphasis.

Date a girl with good taste. She doesn't need to LOVE the music you like, just understand it's good.

Don't be a douche shit about it, though.

I often find that musicians tend to date other musicians, because their passion is such a huge part of their life, more so than any other hobby or interest, that they need to be able to share it with someone who can comprehend it. I'm a musician myself and have only dated girls with some sort of musical background, allthough I often find myself attracted to those that see things differently than myself, those that challenge me into different directions. I don't think I need a girl who is a musician though, but she would have to be able to understand why I spend so much time with my music, and she should have a passion of her own.

I think you should look at what other qualities are important in a relationship than being able to talk about music.

Hey, this is a classical music elitist. Don't bring Sigur Rós into this. :mad:

My problem, I think, is that you're right, music is a huge part of my life, and I don't want to waste my life "teaching" someone about music no matter how great we get along.

It's a problem of sacrificing "musical development" with another musican of any caliber, or just dating someone I'm attracted to in personality.

But mrosok I think you're right. I suppose if music is my passion, and she has hers, then it should be chill. And if we can both appriciate eachothers passions, then I can just grow with musician friends. You're right, why does my lover have to also share the exact same interest... that would definetly be a bore (as many others had said here).

Yes, you are partly correct in saying that. However, I think this kind of attidude is developed by the fact that classical music is a very niche area and a lot of people are ignorant to it. I was ignorant to it 5 years ago and now have that as a huge regret.

I do not beleive in choosing my relationships according to the girls taste in music. However, I will admit that it is a bonus because any relationship can prosper better on similar interests.

Or it could be that you hang around with a lot more she-musicians than she-not-musicians. Whatev.

I think what the music fags seem not to notice that you don't have to perform music in order to appreciate it. Nah, don't get mad. this site is crawling with guys who want girls who are nerdy and wapanese, seeming to think that not only would it be rad to date someone who is your potential better, but that such girls are the only ones who wouldn't mock their hobbies.

But, you know, you can still dump her if she doesn't like Sigur Ros*. If you're going to be an elitist prick, all you deserve are elitist pricks. It'd be better for all really. I could tell you that you're closing yourself off to a whole world of variety but quite honestly, I don't think you'd appreciate that variety.

* love is dead, Capo

Music is important to me as well. I dated a girl in high school who had totally different taste in music from me. I'll admit, it was tough but it is something that you will have to adapt to. Understandably, music is your passion however if you really like the girl you will learn to compromise. For the most part, you are being too judgemental and critical. Music taste is only a small dimensions or a person's personality and should not be the dealbreaker here. I'm sure you can find a handful of reasons to stay with her despite the disagreements in music.

But in all honesty, you definitely sound like a huge asshole in your opening post.

Yeah, I got the same impression off the first post. Hopefully it becomes understandable that specific common interest isn't everything.

Yes you are being a dick. Whether or not you intend to, I'm guessing you don't mean to be, but you are. There's no way to sugar coat it, but hey you asked.

Do you think it's cool if some girl looked down on YOU for not having the same talent she has in say... poetry? It wouldn't matter, either way, I think it's a really disgusting way to dismiss anyone, as though you were the creator of music itself.

Music is a huge part of my life, I think guys who can sing is a huge plus and those who could play an instrument is another big bonus. They're both very attractive qualities in a guy. Unfortunately my husband is practically tone deaf, can't play an instrument worth beans and I tell him to just stop when he tries to sing. Do I look down on him? Of course not. (Plus he has terrible taste in music, I won't even go into the crap that he owns.) I'm a little disappointed sometimes that he doesn't have the same interest but he's a hell of a lot smarter than half the idiots out there and at least knows how to fix a car and a computer. Not to mention he's humble and doesn't look down on me because I can't find the transmission. He is also patient and will teach me if I'm willing to learn. That's a great way to spend time together. What's so bad with learning from each other?

But you know what, if you want to find that perfect girl, go right on ahead. With that attitude, it amazes me that you even get dates at all. Or you can settle, I'm sure your future girlfriend would really appreciate it.

Wow. I hope you're self taught only and no one ever taught you. Ever.

Teaching someone what you know is the ultimate test as to what you know. If you can't teach someone, then you probably don't know it well enough. If she has some interest in music, it'd probably be fun to teach her about it. She may not take it seriously, but maybe you could learn something new as well, or become more inspired if need be.

And honestly, you don't want your girlfriend around you 24/7. There has to be some me time in there and if music is something you're very passionate about, then maybe it would be a good idea to have a woman who is not as passionate about it as you, but at least understands it.

I am. I found beauty in music by myself, with no one to aid me except the internet and the Concert Hall.

It seems that everyone here agrees that A. I shouldn't be so close minded and more open minded. The only thing I question now is am I really trying to be an elitist, or am I just normal and all of you have settled for something less than what you expect?

But on the other hand, I think I am being unrealistic and am seeking a perfect, non-existant girl?

If anything, thanks for all the replies cause they definetly dropped me ego down a notch or two. Like I said before, I think I will shoot for this girl and as long as she can respect me for what I do, I will respect her for what she does. I mean she does make me happy... so I guess there is nothing more to ask for. Although I sometimes wonder - is it possible for me to be happier?

But that's just human selfishness kicking in.

You are an Elitist.
A normal personal understands that relationships involve compromising. That does not mean we are settling for less, we are just realistic with our outlook on other people. We understand that differences can be overlooked. We acknowledge those differences and continue to grow mentally and emotionally.

I dont think anyone mentioned that music taste is subjective. Music has many layers. There may be an element of sentiment and experience that makes a piece of music more memorable to someone else but not you that you will never have. In addition, lyrics can have tremendous weight on the signicance of a piece. For many songs, the lyrics are the selling point even if the musicality is lacking.

Before you go around judging people for their taste in music, take a step back and analyze your own. You cannot honestly believe that your preference is flawless? Because if you do, then that is whole other issue you have to deal with. Other than that, keep your mind open and understand that DIFFERENT people have DIFFERENT tastes. It wouldn't kill you to try to accept that.

I'm an elitist too and felt completely the same reading your first post and agree. There just aren't many of those people around. I just try to enjoy music myself and give concerts just to think by myself "I expressed this beautiful music to my audience..." If they don't like it or can't get into it, it's nothing really, the chance to express what I feel is enough for me.

One thing though: I wouldn't say looking down on them, but rather, being a very lucky person to be able to have this passionate hobby.

You can express your music to your girlfriend or another audience and that should be enough to satisfy your musical needs.

I work in the music industry (with opera singers) and I certainly have some elitist traits. I only listen to classical music and I find other genres less interesting. The difference is that I don't look down on people for having different tastes than I do (much less a girlfriend of all things). If they get enjoyment out of pop, rap, disco, etc, good for them!

I'd say you could use some serious humbling... but it looks like practically everyone in this thread has done the job for me. ;)

Anime music and vgm are way too underrated. Here I go again... I tried to recommend some video game pieces in an orchestra here at home and they immediately told me to shut up and made fun of me about game music being Super Mario Bross and such. You would become a music elitist for less...

Of course it is obvious that knowledge is another important thing to be able to understand music. You have to actually listen to the whole range of music first before saying it's a bad music style! Most people just don't know what they are talking about because they don't have the knowledge in the first place, they just act with prejudice.

If you won't go out with someone because they like shit music, you'll be alone for a long, long time. Just invest in a pair of ear plugs.

Ths whole thing isn't even about the deep spiritual connection you have due to your hobby of singing or playing an instrument, or even composing music, but simply because you like more estoric stuff? Get over yourself, sir. The thing that wows me the most is that, the girl in question doesn't have bad taste so much as you are dead certain you appreciate the subtle beauty of music more than she does. Wow.

With normal people, "settling for what you can get" usually involves someone met later on in life, or someone who is dumb, or someone who is poor. A person who is not the carbon copy of you is not 'settling', sir. I get the distinct impression that you never had a relationship past the two month mark. Until you get experiences with dating people, you have no right talking about settling. You don't know.

On the other hand, you could throw all that out and start cybering with Minion. Whatever.

Why did you let an idiot teach you about music?

lol o shit. hmm.. well said man. I needed that.

Whoa! He actually listened to lurker. I guess we should thank her.

lurker is a her? oops
and btw, i've dated someone for 2 years. felt like they were holding me back from bigger things though to be honest.

I really don't know what kind of girls I'm into anymore. I've kind of lost interest in the whole 'looking and dating' thing. All the girls that do share something in common with me, I just want to befriend and befriend only. All the girls that share nothing in common with me, I could care less about how good they look. I'm indecisive.

If thats really how you feel then your problem is with dating in general. Maybe at this point in your life, it isn't right for you. Anyways, this should probably be moved into ANGST if things continue as they are.

I'm not going to reiterate everyone else's correct evaluation that your pickiness in relationships would make even Seinfeld squint. I'm wondering if you're even really sure these girls don't "get it." How do you know? Do they just not seem interested or have you actually listened to something with them and judged by their reaction?

I find a lot of people are simply unaware of what's out there. In fact, I haven't had a girlfriend yet whose perspective on music I haven't completely changed in some way. In a relationship, you should both have something unique to bring to the table; you should both encourage growth in the other in some way. If you're too lazy to give anyone that kind of attention, then you're probably going to die alone.

Yes Minion, I agree with you here. Definately both people should introduce each other to each other's world such that both people can grow in other areas that they do not normally explore. Another thing is the kind of "I look down on your kind of music attitude" that quite a number of people I met have. I've seen pop music people denounce classical music as stuff for dying old men and boring bits while classical music people insulting pop music, reducing it to nothing more than rubbish. Its definately time these people learn to appreciate the beauty in the other - pop music for its lyrics and classical music for its depth. (ok, so music is more than just lyrics and depth but you get the idea)

LOL.

I love to teach my girlfriends, whether it be teaching them how to play guitar, violin, cello, piano, saxophone. Hell, I even spent the better part of afternoons teaching many of them the basic controls and operations of a motorcycle!

Any person in their right mind should be happy to share their passions with others (especially those that can be their significant other) and it should be considered a priviledge and in some cases, a responsibility when they do so. To teach them your passions re-affirms your love for that passion and can make you fall in love with it all over again. And like others said, it is the ultimate test of your knowledge and understanding of that passion when teaching others of your love.

I had a music teacher back in middleschool, he was so passionate about music and could play damn near every SINGLE instrument you could name and all of them quite proficiently I might add. He was a professional musician before he became a middle school teacher and MUSIC WAS HIS LIFE!

He so influenced me with his love for music and his passion for it which basically changed my life. I will never forget him for being a great teacher and a great friend and for giving to me the love of music.

Elitism does suck. I found it all too often in many self-proclaiming 'intellectuals' of all kinds. It does not hurt to be very confident in yourself, even abit cocky and I admit I am like this but it is never ok to be so full of yourself that it is overbearing and suffocating to any and all who come across you. And if this is the case then you need a really harsh dose of reality man.

Share your love and your passion. The only way to receive is to give.

Wow, you must be a real lady's man, haha... Lucky you! ^_^

See, I wasn't fully convinced that you were acting like a complete and utter prick until this line. If the only thing you know about music is what you've taught yourself, you probably don't know shit. People who are actually geniuses and can teach themselves more about a subject than they could be taught understand that not everyone has abilities in the same area, and don't look down on other people for it. Even Einstein got married. For someone to be as fucking stuck on his high horse about his musical appreciation AND to have no real instruction in the matter means you've got a major personality flaw going on.

See, what's so mind-boggling about your position is that music is one of those areas that intelligent people love sharing with their significant others. Taste and appreciation for a type of music is something that's easily aquired, and when you get two people who love different types of music together, both of their tastes broaden, and that's one of the reasons to be in a relationship--to expand yourself. Thinking that no girl could possibly ever have anything to bring to the table because you're so far above their level means that not only will you likely die alone, but you deserve it.

You want to date women who are also part musician and have a devestating love for the art? Well, it's high time that you go and do some leg work and find these women:

1.) Go on a online dating service. Look up those who have music/musician interests in their profiles.

2.) Look around schools, universities/colleges of course, and check out their music programs.

3.) Check instructional places that teach how to play music.

4.) Check music audio stores.

5.) Check music equipment repair/sales shops.

6.) Check churches. Youth groups are always singing during those sermons and raising their arms, there's bound to be someone there.

Really, what better place to look for your destined one than to look at a place where destiny is found?

You know, I tried to censor some of my thoughts but Nadi really hit what I have to say on the nose. The number of self-righteous, self-taught musicians who are condescending and elitist bother me. Teaching yourself something doesn't make you better or worse. Additionally, a relationshps isnt about "changing" another person to be more like yourself. Instead of asking your internet friends about this issue, why don't you say what you told us in your first post to a group of women. That should work well to teach you that the world does not center around your perspective and opinions on matters.

I am reminded of a good saying that came out of an Eastern Philosophy course I took back in school. I can't remember it exactly, but I think it was "Those who say do not know; those who know do not say" and it meant that if you are truly wise, you understand that regardless of what you have learned there is much, much more you do not know. It is a humbling revelation that true wisdom is an acceptance of just how ignorant one really is.

Where on *earth* was I when such a legendary thread was being made?!! (Damn you, Shin, if you took this to The Sewers just imagine how many kinds of awesome this thread could have become!) God, I lolled sooo hard when I read the first post - you rocketdog are freaking g.

After a fashion.

I mean, dude. I'm also a big classical music person, but truth to be told, I actually perfer to date non-musicians. Reason being I much prefer someone who's similar to me in terms of personality and who has interests outside of my own, and that makes things more interesting. I find playing music INCREDIBLE, but talking about it so boring and besides the point that someone being a virtuoso musician and nothing else isn't really it for me. Music's an art to communicate emotion like any other, and so I value the sensitivity in the music buff as much as I do when I see it anywhere else. I guess the only thing is that it'd be cool if she's willing to learn more about classical music as time goes on, but even that's optional.

I play the piano and I have a sharp ear for music. Just about everytime my bf and i see a movie I can guess the composer before the credits show up. My bf mainly likes trance music but also likes the anime and game music that I listen to. That is fine by me, our relationship is not defined by the music we listen to anyway. although he did say would like me to teach him some piano.

Music is my life, and all TWO of the girls i've dated were not nearly into the veins of music as I was, and ya for a time i guess i looked down on my first girlfriend. But after a while I saw how that she was good at a lot of other things, and I loved her for those things, not just music. But since I pretty much like everything except Babyeater music, its a little easier for me. I guess this is my best advice: experiment a little. Before I hated all the mainstream music, but after forcing myself to listen to other things, I see that some of its not too bad.

All that you need is someone who appreciates what you do and supports your interests. But give it a few years and I'm sure we'll have figured out a way to attach you to yourself at the hip. Are you a fan of Greek Philosophy? It ties into Greek Mythology, which ties into Fantasy. We were all supposedly physically attached to our soul mates. I'm sure that would make a lot of sense to you.

Being an "artist" doesn't make you better than anyone else. You're just like any ordinary person. Please don't romanticize how through your struggles, you have seen the "light" that no one else has seen. This "light" or "truth" only artists can see.

You're egocentric. It's time to get the over yourself and get some ass.

Perhaps their perspectives are infinitely deeper than yours, it's just that you're too retarded to comprehend their point of view.

Well, this weekend I went out with a girl. She asked me to play some piano for her so I played her a piece. Afterward I asked her what she thought and she said "Oh it just sounded like notes to me, but good job, very pretty."

How am I supposed to respect that? I don't think her perspective is deeper than mine, sorry. Seriously.

I think my problem is just that my campus is full of idiots. Because I've definetly met kids who are up to par with my self-declared "wisdom" but as nobody worth mentioning at my college campus. I'm not even trying to be an egoist but do you know what I mean? It's like when you were a senior in HS and you were picking on freshman. I'm a senior in college but I feel a majority of the seniors here are still freshman. *shrug

I think this thread still existing is probably the saddest thing I've ever seen on Gamingforce, second to your inability to realize that you're not going to win any friends with that kind of an attitude. You came her asking for an opinion, and you got one. If you act the way you are currently, people are going to think you're an asshole, and no amount of arguing will change that. Get over it.

the girls I date are those whom the most beautiful music came from the goodness inside them, about how the allegrettos of their kindess played upon me, and the boleros of their wit pounded my eyes, and most importantly, the sonatas of their love seduces me like no other

You're making it very hard to respect YOU. So what if she doesn't have a deeper appreciation for music? Get on with it if you don't want to date her, because it's obvious she could not possibly have anything else to offer in a relationship. Maybe you are just surrounded by morons, in which case, you might want to move to another city or planet.

Although I do agree that a comment like that would make me think, "gee, have you listened to music before ever in your life?" Either way, you're not presenting yourself in a good light here and I doubt you'll find many people to sympathize with you.

Uh... huh. It's sorta hard to take your argument seriously when you freely admit that your appreciation and knowledge of music stems from the internet and the Concert Hall. Some of us actually have degrees in music (I know! Concept!).

There is more to life than music and there is more to a romantic partner than expecting her to understand every tempo marking and every last bit of counterpoint in that piece you're playing to her. If that's *all* you want from a girl, you're going to be looking for a while.

Er, he did. Like 3 times.

Of course this guy probably wouldn't date an ugly musician.

You're supposed to respect somebody regardless of their educational background. Why don't you take some of this energy that you're using to gloat, and instead educate some of these dames. You can introduce them to music in a way that other people haven't. Perhaps you'll inspire them to study it for themselves, or at least appreciate music on a different level.

The problem isn't "everbody else" and their lack of intelligence. They just don't like the same shit you do. The main problem is your attitude towards these kids. Just be cool to them. Not every person you meet is going to challenge you in the ways you might expect. Sounds like these people are challenging you to be a more patient person, and to look for the best that each person has to offer. Otherwise, you'll end up a self proclaimed genius, completely introverted, living in the middle of nowhere, away from everybody.

So some kids at your school suck at piano and haven't studied music theory. So fucking what? Quit acting so misunderstood and unappreciated. It's not like you're the next JS Bach or something.

What school do you go to? Just out of curiosity.

Also, you are a very narrow minded individual and it's kinda hard to deal with it. You probably like pretty bad music as it is.

Is that what she said, rocketdog? I don't think you're being very accurate, and may be exaggerating for effect. 'It all sounds like notes to me' could very well be an answer to some stupid question like 'well how did you like the second stanza' or something, I don't know, I don't do music. It does not sound like something a natural person would say in response to 'Did you like it?'

At any rate, obviously one of two things are possible here. One, you're dissing your dates to the internet in order to make yourself look better. Tell me how that works out! The other is that the only people who are attracted to you are otherwise stupid.

A little of column a, a little of column b here.

:edgarrock:

Double Post:
To be honest, I don't think he's the one making the decision here.

oh god, actually, it'd be hilarious if he dated someone who actually knew what she was talking about regarding music, because I bet he doesn't. I don't know for certain! But I think it'd be hilarious. ROCKETDOG GO WORK ON THIS K

I used to play the accompaniment for my ex; it was sorta irritating because he thought he was stylisticly right but I just let it go and just let us both play instead and just enjoy playing our instruments togeather. I mean, it shouldn't matter much as long as you're having fun togeather playing music right? Just pretend you're tone deaf for an hour or something -_-"

Why would someone who appreciates music need someone else to appreciate the music he listens to? Does it even matter? I mean if I found a girl who liked the music I like then it's another point on the board, but it's not a deal breaker. It reminds me of when I was in jr high, there were girls that wanted nothing to do with me simply because it was well known that I liked heavy metal. Maybe they thought I'd invite them to my house and beat them to death with my guitar, maybe they thought I was beneath them because of my musical tastes. When I got in high school I had this girlfriend that had the complete opposite musical taste, where I was into Death,Sepultura,Slayer,Cannibal Corpse she was into Patsy Cline and bluegrass. Now she knew I was into metal before we got together, but I didn't know about what she liked until afterwards. I remember asking her what she liked and she said Patsy Cline. I said Patsy Cline?! However I didn't get on her case about it, you like what you like, but I remember thinking that's going pretty far back and country to boot. Most kids if they like something that old it's usually Elvis or The Beatles or something rock and roll.

Either way it didn't matter if I liked Cannibal Corpse and she liked Patsy Cline. All I care about is that they look good, are good inside and the sex is good.

Hey rocketdog, watch it. She may be able to play the Rachmaninov 3rd Concerto backwards and might saying that as an euphemism for your 'imperfect legato'. Haha... just kidding. Anyway, I think your expectations are too high. Try lowering it and you might just meet someone you really want to be with. :)

Haha, if a chick made a joke like you just did, I'd so date her! :biggrin:
Where are those women!?

No, you're not the only one. I know a couple of people who look down their noses at all the poor, inferior schmucks who don't recognize classical music as the only kind of music worth listening to.

rocketdog, these girls you're dating may not have as deep an appreciation for music as you do (although, like others have said, I'd bet it has more to do with their musical preferences), but I'll bet each and every one of them knows about things you don't and could teach you a thing or two about something. Maybe not classical piano, but something that's as important to them as your music is to you.

Or maybe the basics like social grace, humility, tact, common sense. :p

Well, yeah. The girl did sound extremely rude if that's really what she said, but I can't imagine someone being that bitchy. Sometimes we hear what we want to hear.

They're probably looking for men who don't use taste in music as the one and only criteria for a mate.

They're also looking for guys who aren't Asian.

Painfully true.

Well, Hilary Hahn is one... :) Looks aside, I think she plays Bach really well. Do give a listen to her Bach partitas. Besides, she keeps an online journal (I think its called a blog). How many musicians do that sort of stuff?