Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End
 

The title for the third and final movie of the trilogy.

This is a spoiler found on wikipedia



In this movie, the long-awaited cameo for Keith Richards to be Jack Sparrow's dad will be seen. Also a little hilarity to note:

:tpg:

Well, the film is a year away from coming out, so I guess we can start discussing it now. Of course if a thread already existed on the 3rd movie, just merge it. :\

I loved the first, really enjoyed the second so yeah, definitely looking forward to this. I'm only hoping it doesn't turn out the way the third Matrix film did, a huge let down.

The most interesting thing about the movie season next year is the "battle" between the three trilogies of Shrek, Spider-man, and Pirates.

It really is up in the air on who will win, but I have a feeling that Shrek will start strong but end weak, so the real battle will be between Spider-man and Pirates. Both movies have the potential to fail miserably, mostly for the same reason (too much going on and too many sub-plots to fill in).

Anyway, Pirates 3 will more than likely be entertaining, but I hope I don't have the feeling of "well, it wasn't worth two sequels" when the credits begin to role. They have much to cover while still keeping it interesting, but I have faith that it won't become stale.

Man, this is one of the films that I'm waiting for. I really enjoyed the last 2 films (especially the 2nd), and there's no way in hell I'm missing the 3rd one!

I don't think it will, since I think the 2nd movie was better than the first. Plus, with Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow, what can go wrong? Can't wait to catch this one in the cinemas.

Actually Pirates 3 will becomeing out late may a week after Shrek 3. I cant remeber the exact booking dates of the may movies but I know it is this order.

Spider man 3, shrek 3 Pirates 3.

Sounds like a fun month for parents and children alike.

I can't wait for this movie. After seeing the ending of PotC 2, anyone will wanna go see the third movie.

Loved both movies, pretty much equally. I need to see the second one again, hopefully i can catch it in theatres before it disappears.

I'm really looking forward to number 3, cause, well, yeah the ending speaks for itself.

I really hope it doesn't pull a Matrix.

Is it out yet?

Seriously though, the end of the second film has left me wanting it to come out now.
I am really looking forward to this film coming out.
They shouldn't "do a matrix" with this, but they have done the same thing as the Matrix (split the 2nd and 3rd film in half), but I'm hoping that this film will be just as good as the first two.

Next year looks a good year for films, both Pirates of the Caribbean 3 and Spiderman 3 come out:)

omg omg omg

does anyone remember what Barbossa said at the end of the movie when he takes that apple?
all i could think of is "how do you like 'em apples?"
i can't remmeber and it's been bugging the hell out of meeeee

anyways since pirates 2 left me at a cliffhanger i'm DYING to know what's gonna happen in the 3rd movie and I'm FOR SURE that the 3rd movie is gonna be AWESOME!!!!!!!!

He says "So tell me, what's become of my ship?"
Well, according to IMSDb he says that. I honestly can't remember his line, other than his apple munching.

I'm pretty sure that is accurate.

EDIT: Link to the ending of Dead Man's Chest on youtube.

New trailer posted here http://www.movie-list.com/trailers.p...fthecaribbean3
HD trailer available there also

It is looking pretty damn good. It looks as if it is going to be on par with the first two films. I want to see it even more now that I have seen the trailer.

Only a little over 2 months till it comes out, and I can't wait.

1080HD Trailer

Looks pretty damn good. not that far away from theatres either. Hopefully I can catch this one in the theatre this time around.

I can't wait until this movie comes out...I've been looking forward to it since I saw the credits of the second movie...I wonder if this will be the last movie? Also, I don't like how Elizabeth Swann's story got so large...eh...I watch if for the Depp

It's going to be awesome! It almost killed me when Barbossa came in in the second movie, just before it ended, so it'll be satisfying to see how it all plays out. I did feel that the second movie dragged on a bit, so i'm hoping this one is slightly shorter with just as much action.

Haha, that was awesome. Looks to be an all out legion of Pirates vs the EITC. Love how they had the music in sync with the clashing of Jack and Davy Jones' swords during their little dual near of the end of the trailer. No doubt DJ is dualing for his heart.

I'm kinda surprised that they didn't show Keith Richards in trailer, heh though probably for the best.

Bumping this since I just saw the movie.

The verdict: Ultimately entertaining, but incredibly disappointing. For a three hour movie, there is a staggering lack of swordfighting. All the piratey stuff winds up taking a backseat to all the mystical folderol. Just way too much focus on the voodoo lady from Monkey Island, in a way that never really feels resolved. I couldn't help but get the impression that they didn't actually have a follow-up story to Pirates 2, and threw this one together after the fact.

Here's some more in-depth spoilery commentary.

Still, there's enough great moments to make it worth seeing at the matinee, or to pick up as a rental. But this one really falls flat even considering the disproportionate buildup.

So which one wins the Trilogy 2007 showdown?

Spidey? Pirates? or God forbid Shrek?

Have not seen any of them yet.

The disappointment that I had for Spider-man 3 does not even come close to how I feel about Pirates 3.

Man, what a let down. Talk about a movie that falls in love with its own mythology, which then leaves the characters behind as a result.

The amount of disappointment that I have is still hitting me even as I write this. Nothing seemed to work. Nothing seemed to be funny. I just didn't care by the end of the movie.



Man, I totally agree with you on that.

I also agree that the writers have reduced Jack Sparrow from being clever to just plain lucky. There is no correlation between Pirates 1 Jack Sparrow to Pirates 3 Jack Sparrow.

Interesting... On another forum I'm in, everyone loved it and said it was awesome, whereas here most people are disappointed... Is it because the epic scale of special effects overshadowed the flaws in the plot for them or is it all just matter of opinion?

I should be seeing it next week, so I can decide my opinion then.

I hope all you experts waited until after the credits!

Yeah, I guess you can say that.

They simply go overboard on the style. There is no question on where the budget went in this movie as some did for Spider-man 3. It truly is amazing to watch. However, the humor and many characters are left behind to make room for not only the special effects, but also the writers desperate need to tell an overall boring story.

This is not the same Pirates film as the first one was. Oh, there are plenty of pirates in "At World's End," but the dialogue and characters that made the first movie so much fun are absent. At times, it feels as if I am watching a parody of what the movie could have been.

People were groaning for the movie to be over in the showing I went to. It is just too damn long. Several guys behind me were sighing throughout the movie and questioning what the fuck they were watching. I saw several people get up and leave BEFORE the epic battle, so that just tells me they did not give a shit anymore. Of course, the fanboys were all cheering towards the end, but I saw plenty of disappointed faces.

The positive review you are reading now are probably the hardcore fans of Pirates. I'm very happy for those who love this movie, because I really wish I had the same feeling.

The only thing that really disappointed me was the way the Calypso/Davy Jones thing worked out. She just kinda disappeared and all the character development that went into feeling sympathy for him got shot to hell.

It just felt like they hadn't properly written everything out beforehand. But it was entertaining.

I really like the characters in this series, so watching them do just about anything, even if it doesn't seem to wrap up very well, is entertainment enough for me.

What happens? I didn't wait for the end of the credits, lol. I was pretty eager to get out of there. I'll bet it's some sort of setup for a 4th movie... *facepalm*

It was the only heartfelt sequence, and it wasn't even apart of the movie.

EDIT: Remember the episode of the Simpsons when Mel Gibson asks Homer to help him make his movie, and Homer completely ruins what was originally an amazing movie that everyone loved? You know, by adding in completely over the top stunts and making characters do things for no reason at all?

Yeah, that's exactly what I think happened to this movie.

The difference is that this movie obviously never had a test screening. The director/writers did it all themselves.

Yes. Obviously. :rolleyes:

Figuratively, of course.

You know what I mean.

In any case, I'll probably end up liking the movie more when I watch it on DVD. When I think about the film, there were some parts that I really enjoyed. It's just the little things that bothered me.



I just feel gypped.

I remember reading that they rushed to get this movie out the door, and the final product clearly shows it. The story has holes galore, lots of pointless scenes, and most logic flushed down the toilet. What's most disappointing for me however is that the movie shows lots of potential for so much more. Even with all the nonsense, the movie still had enough moments to make it entertaining.

Like Spiderman 3, it also felt to me like they were squeezing characters into the timeframe and really bloated the movie up to make room for the special effects.

Between the mental breakdown and schizophrenia of Jack Sparrow (when we say we want more Jack we don't mean multiple iterations of him), the rock/crabs, the mast-sized giant Caribbean woman no one understands metamorphosizing into millions of crabs, falling over the cliff into Davy Jones' Locker, rocking the boat to flip it into the real world, the pointless pirate in-fighting culminating with Keith Richards' useless cameo that led to the standoff between the East India Trading Company and the ships of the Pirate Lords that ultimately became the most disappointing, most drawn out and time-consuming two-ship battle in the history of cinema, the death of Admiral Norrington (who sadly had to go to make their story work), all of the pointless sexual euphemisms, and the whole Will-Elizabeth bullshit, there were entertaining moments.

They were just so brief and so interspersed that to recall them now would only do more to defeat the ultimate point which I will make right now:

DO NOT SEE PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN III. YOU WILL BE WASTING YOUR TIME AND MONEY TO SEE A FILM THAT IS FAR LESS ENTERTAINING AND ENJOYABLE THAN THE PREVIOUS TWO FILMS COMBINED.

May I suggest piracy?

As if the first movie wasn't boring and overbearing. The only fun that I got out of the first film was noticing all of the references to the ride that were interspersed throughout. Then after watching it a second time I started to enjoy the all-out popcorn flick style that the movie carried. There was nothing of a plot to speak of (omg cursed treasure), there was Johnny Depp being as overrated as ever, and there was hotty whatsherface being sexy.

Then the second movie came out last summer. I went to go see it with a friend because it was the first big film of the summer.
It still retained that film-sans-plot style of a true popcorn flick.
Only this time Bill Nighy was in it with his crazy accent and amazing CG body. (an in-joke that summer was doing Davy Jones impersonations "99 soulsss-ah!")
Only in this second film, Depp wasn't as much of a focus and everyone threw a bitch-fit. Which is a shame, really, because the rest of the characters grew so much.

Now the third film is out. They tried for more of a plot, but it didn't really matter. The character of Jack Sparrow finally evolved somewhat, but nowhere near as much as Will Turner or Elizabeth Swan. Oh, and Keith Richards stunk up the film with a pointless cameo (I thought there were going to be flashbacks with him wtf).
So, how about the film's style? It's still the same old popcorn flick that the first one was. It's fun and pointless. It's a typical summer movie. Fans expecting more than what was on screen really built themselves up on a foundation of nothing, didn't they?

I liked it enough to change my avatar. It was an entertaining and enjoyable movie. I don't really have more to say but I try not to take movies so seriously so I tend to enjoy them.

Hey, I liked that bit. A little dash of wierdness, given the context, was appropriate. The whole rest of Davy Jones' locker was painfully mundane, but there was the seed of brilliance in that bit.

Agreement on the pointlessness of Keith Richards' cameo. It was still fun to see him at all, but I was expecting them to use his cameo for some character development with Jack or something, not HEY KIDS LOOK IT'S KEITH RICHARDS

It's really sad. A little tinkering with the script and Pirates 3 would have been servicable. But this is what happens when movie execs see dollar signs. It's why I've been slow to see Spiderman 3, and why I'm cringing at the thought of Shrek 3.

That's the thing, though: the majority of the audience WAS kids (younger than high school). If they weren't informed beforehand of the fact that it was Keith Richards and who he is then the cameo is even more pointless. Kids these days probably wouldn't know who the Rolling Stones are if someone slapped them in the face with a Paint It Black 45.

I liked the movie.. and I disagree with the reviewers who say the story is too confusing, or all this traffic directing bullshit. If you've seen the movies in order, there shouldn't be any confusing part to it. Granted, the Calypso arc in At World's End had a rather empty ending, but everything else made sense, including Pearl vs Dutchman without the other ships. Did you really want to see a bunch of normal British and pirate ships firing at each other rather than just the Pearl, Dutchman, and their respective main characters battling?

i enjoyed purely as a popcorn flick, but i agree that there were quite a few spots where the story was just poorly written.

on another note, keira knightley seems to be her sexiest in this installment pirates. yay for that.

Just saw it tonight, heh and I loved it. I'm actually surprised that a lot of people were disappointed by it and that many critics hated it, I personally thought it was a lot better than DMC and delivered on the entertainment. Oh and man, Geoffery Rush was awesome! So glad they brought back his character, love his crazy laugh. It was great to see that they had an explanation to why the Dutchman's crew were fishmen.

Heh, though the movie did have some problems and I do agree that some things were just wasted, eg. the build up of a Pirates vs British battle only for it to not happen at all. The Davy Jones/Calypso's didn't finish out as well as I hoped, was kinda expecting more than a maelstrom from Calypso (and boy was hard to make out what she was saying sometimes, kinda wish there were subtitles for her lines). I hated the marriage-battle thing I thought that was just meh, and Beckett's death that was just "ok... will you die already?" Oh and that assasin guy (took over command of Dutchman after Norrington died, whose death was just poorly executed) I thought he should have died back in Singapore by the other girl's hand (the sister I believe), so stupid they just kept dragging him on. And man, I was hoping for some more Kraken, what a shame.

Heh, anyway I know that just made it sound like I hated the film more than love, but I'm just being nitpicky and just had let out some of the stuff that annoyed me. Overall though, loved the movie! Oh and the soundtrack/score was awesome, probably the best of the trilogy!

Oh and them ending it back at square one was kinda interesting and does leave room for a sequel. By the way, did anyone catch the scene after the credits? They showed Elizabeth and Will's next meeting after 10 years. Anyone else notice that their son is the same kid from the beginning of the movie, that was singing just before he was hung? I found that to be kinda interesting.

My buddy sent me this interesting theory, not his and didn't send a source to it, about the relation between Will and Elizabeth's son to the kid at the beginning.
An interesting theory, but I personally hope that isn't the direction they choose for a 4th movie should it happen. Just more Jack Sparrow and enough of the Turners please.

Are you sure it's the same kid? I didn't really get a great look at his face, but I doubt the beginning would actually take place 10+ years after the rest of the movie.
That just wouldn't make any sense whatsoever, especially considering how later in the movie someone says that "the song has been sung".

It was the same child actor playing a different character. You see it all the time. LotR did it constantly.

Also, this movie was a disjointed piece of crap. Weird David Lynchian beginning followed by an old west style showdown on a beach with a bad ending does not a movie make. A few funny moments, some nice action bits, but overall? AWFUL.

Meh, i liked it well enough. Honestly, the only things that really bothered me was the closureless Calypso thing that seemed to be just pasted in there (though i think it will play a part in the fourth movie, if there is one, as Barbossa was brought back by her specifically so he could set her free) and Jack's intro in the locker. It was cool enough, a little annoying though, and it didn't feel like part of the rest of the movie.

I loved the final battle, Pearl v Dutchman. The wedding scene i thought was highly entertaining.

I also liked how they more or less eliminated any sense of protagonism from any of the characters, and more or less put them all on the same level, much like the Lord of the Rings movies.

I think in the end, i'm gonna treat the second two as seperate from the first, and more or less the same movie. There's little difference in characters, plot elements, and such, whereas the first one is completley different.

I'd see it again, but not for full price.

Frankly, if the fourth movie were on the same level as this one, i'd see it, no questions asked.

^ I totally agree with what you said there. :D

I really loved how Elisabeth 'progressed' through the film. From 'girl' to 'king', heh. Not to mention her costume was totally awesome. And the speech she gave when they were headed into battle, that was great. Though, I expected it to be like in the first movie where they sent her packing in a little lifeboat. XD

I always knew there was something up with Tia Dalma, but I didn't know it was just a bad case of crabs. She could've cleared that up easily enough. :tpg:

Meh, just saw it, had it's points, wasn't horrible. I don't know, it just felt like the story had already ended, and yet they still kept going. So overall I felt like the plot was being pushed down my throat, and left out a lot of needed explanations for stuff.

Whatever, I still like the first the best.

Examples?

Well, I rather enjoyed it. The action sequences were top drawer, the best being the showdown between The Dutchman and The Pearl, man that was ace. The bit with releasing Calypso was a bit weak though, other than that it was a good film. I'd pay to see it again.

Keith Richards was criminally under used, I felt that they could have done so much more with his role.

LotR example: Sam's children are all hobbit children from the birthday in movie one.

Oh yeah, and also Jackson's kids are hobbits, Rohirrim, and Gondor citizens respectively.

I enjoyed it too. The only thing I found seriously weak, was Tia Dalma. I didn't understand the whole growing huge, uttering nonsense and exploding in crabs.
Hoist your colours gave me goosebumps. Sooo good.

I agree with this whole-heartedly.

I could not stand the wedding scene, though. It wasn't funny. Maybe it's my sense of humor.

I really enjoyed the first and second PotC, but this third one was a complete waste of my time (and money). We all walked out of the threatre, incredibly disappointed.

You can feel that "rushed" and "not complete" feeling the movie seemed to have. So much potential wasted.

Also, I thought there was going to be a lot more emphasis on the whole Pirate Lords coming to together against the trading company, but oops ha ha shitty sub-plot that got washed ashore when the Turners started fucking everything up - AS USUAL.

And see, I can't buy Kiera Knightley as anything serious. The woman doesn't have acting chops. At all. Even a little. Was she better than she was in the prior two? Sure. Was she good? No. Cate Blanchett gives that speech and I'd be impressed. Coming from pouty-lips McCan'tAct, I don't care.

Tia Dalma sucked because she was thrown away. Her relationship with Davy Jones was the only one they really took the time to do something with in the third flick, and then they just dropped it and forgot about it. Absolute bullshit.

Also, yes, the action sequences were very well choreographed. Exceptionally Errol Flynnesque in their delivery, timed with some great maritime action. Who couldn't love that British Galleon getting fingercuffed by the Pearl and the Dutchman? But that doesn't excuse the movie. Also, Keith Richards wasn't underused. He was just perfect. Any more and we'd see how truly not an actor he is.

Also, Rocktheparty is so sadly wrong it isn't even funny. It wasn't the action bits that ruined the movie, it WAS the emotional character bits underneath. They didn't develop them for shit, and not to make room for action, it was to make room for Johnny Depp fangirls/boys wet dreams of giving him more fucking screen time. Orlando Bloom is a shoddy actor, and I wasn't impressed with his Princess Bride's Man In Black impression at the end. Kiera is a fucking awful actress, no matter how hot you think she is, she's terrible. Geoffrey Rush once again kicks ass in his role, as he often does, and Johnny Depp proves yet again what a second rate Gene Wilder he really is. Movie sucked. Case fucking closed.

I thought that was what I was saying, but perhaps that wasn't how it came across.

Although the PotC characters have always been boring (besides Jack Sparrow), their interactions with each other were entertaining. Not in the third movie, though, and that is why I was disappointed. And I do blame the overbearing story that demanded the special effects, although I wasn't specifically targeting the action sequences.

The emotional bits could have been better if they did not try to disguse its mediocrity with really cool action sequences and plot points that wasted time.

Why does Jack Sparrow want eternal life, even though he has made no mention of it in the other two movies? So that he can have a dazzling fight with Davy Jones! Why have Calypso in the movie at all, and a half-baked storyline for her? To have an excuse for a giant storm in the final battle! Why go to Davy Jone's locker at all? To have a cool special effect sequence while traveling there, of course!

As a result, Jack Sparrow was barely in the movie.

Yeah, he was in almost every scene after being rescued, but he was essentially pushed to the background and had very little to say or do until the the final parts of the movie. Every plot device or twist made in the movie meant little time for Jack Sparrow. But it didn't matter, because Jack Sparrow was not fun to watch in the third movie anyway.

Johnny Depp probably had more flexibility to do what he wanted with Jack Sparrow, thus the reason why the character seemed to be crap in this movie. But the fact of the matter is that most people went to these movies expecting to see him, and to clutter the story as they did made the impact of knowing Depp screwed up more disappointing.

No, there was hint of him wanting it in the first film, when he wistfully referred to himself as "the immortal Captain Jack Sparrow" at one point.

Didn't Barbossa say that?

Even if Jack did say that, his desire to become captain of the Flying Dutchman was not his main goal in either of the two movies and was really forced upon us.

EDIT: Are you referring to a deleted scene?

In that case, I'm not too sure I can count that as canon. I don't remember much about them, so I don't know if they conflict with anything established in the finished movie.

I didn't see it like that. After all, it wasn't until at the end of the second movie did Jack experience a fate worse than death. This is what made him yearn for immortality. It makes sense from his character's perspective to seek immortality out only after returning to life by becoming the Captain of the Flying Dutchman. I thought they portrayed this well in the third movie. It was also a nice arc for his character when he gave up his chances of being immortal for Will.


Yeah, I liked the movie. I do have a few critiques: a bit too long, some characters deserved more screen time/development (Davy Jones - I found him more interesting than most of the other characters), and it was difficult comprehending a few things at first. But overall, I was entertained. None of the sequels could truly capture the original appeal of the first, but I don't think the filmmakers were trying to make the sequels better than the first - they were just trying to give Dead Man's Chest and At World's End legs of their own to stand out, and be different in their own unique ways. I think they succeeded.

Could be. It's been a while since I saw it.