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same-sex love
Just don't forget: it's a GENERAL thread :p
I'm a guy, and i'm in love with another guy. Although I claim not to care about "public opinion", I must say I sometimes feel uneasy to hold his hand or kiss him in public, especially at university. For some reason, heterosexuals seem to have romantic monopoly. I mean come on, we're keeping our clothes on, we're remaining decent, we're not comitting any crimes... What is your attitude towards same-sex lovers? |
I don't want to see anyone making out/dry humping in public - heterosexual or homosexual. Light kissing, holding hands, etc. doesn't bother me at all, whether it's a man and a woman, two men, or two women.
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I don't like watching anyone do anything outlandishly sexual in public, gay, dyke or straight. I expect people to be courteous enough to respect me, as I am courteous enough to respect them. |
I don't really give same-sex lovers a second thought, to be honest. If I see a gay couple holding hands or something I just think that it's sweet, which is the same thing that I'd think with a straight couple. Unfortunately most of the people where I live think quite the opposite.
I'm with Alice and Sass on the dry-humping in public thing. |
Gay couples never bothered me, but my friend Marvin has a lot of stories of where you can't be if you are gay. In Houston, Texas, everywhere he went with his black lover, they would be stared at. Apparently, in Texas, it was a double whammy to be black and gay.
In Chicago, it isn't so bad. Hell, we have a neighborhood that is so gay it is called "Boy's Town". |
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I think outlandishly gross PDAs are, well, gross. I never did them when I had a relationship and I don't plan to ever do PDAs of that nature. Holding hands, sure. Getting cuddly, sure. Playing tonsil hockey, no. |
Even as a gay dude, I have to admit that seeing a two people of the same sex holding hands or kissing would draw my attention pretty well, just because it's so unusual.
I can't say I'm against people making out in public, though. I just don't see why I should care or how that's disrespectful. |
I could honestly care less what anyone does in public. I dont get offended easily, and honestly cant see what there is to get offended about. Im also not homophobic in the least bit. Its proably different in the north, but in the south, everyones highly offended when they see interacial, or homosexual couples out and about.
Its weird when all your friends go quiet when they see a gay or interracial couple, and im the only one whos like, "big fucking deal." My sisters gay, and I fear for her only because people can be very closed minded sometimes. |
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Yeah, i totally agree with that above statement. If i see a homosexual couple i might look twice, or linger a little bit, but it's only cause i haven't really been exposed to that growing up, and you don't see alot of it where i come from. Nothing against Homosexuality, just not used to it. |
I'll admit to being put off at seeing gay guys and girls kissing and showing affection to one another because it's unusual and I was raised in a traditional family. I'm sure that if homosexual PDA became more commonplace I wouldn't care.
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And pardon my ignorance, but what is PDA? |
PDA: Public Display of Affection.
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Anyway, my attitude towards same-sex lovers? Umm, it would be odd if I didn't totally approve :) As far as PDA, I barely EVER see homosexual couples up here in Ohio, but when I met one guy in Cleveland he insisted on holding my hand, and apparently around his campus (Case Western Reserve University) it was a common thing because he wasn't afraid at all and nobody seemed to pay attention to us...? It still felt a bit weird to me. But I don't care. |
I only mind PDAs by people I don't find attractive. Otherwise, it would be awesome to have free porn happening everywhere I go each day.
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i think the reason it may "gross" some people out is because like for me, I have always thought men are supposed to be like uber manly, with deep manly voices, and manly hands, and that dress manly ect. and when i see two guys holding hands or something it just is so un-natural (for me) to see that.. its just something about it that just hits me the wrong way... same thing with women... but that is just my opinion.. i'm not trying to start anything, so please, please don't start a fight or anything, i'm not trying to and i really don't feel like arguing with anyone, i just felt like stating my opinion.
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Two men kissing each other or being lovey dovey in public I find disgusting. Lesbians however(if they are hot) is very pleasing to the eye. Heterosexuals I really don't care either way.
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I don't mind at all, be it heterosexual or not. I actually like watching couples make out - makes me happy to see they're in love, and enjoying life.
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I think they are cute. When I see homosexual couple, I imagine story of beautiful boys pairing just like in the shoujo manga. =D
but seriously, I respect other people's sexual orientation, love is universal after all. |
I don't really mind gay people at all, but kind of like Alice said, I think most gratuitious PDAs are overwhelming, straight or gay. I have no moral opposition to any sexuality, so whatever anyone's perrogative is, I'm cool with.
Of course, there are some people that just bother me in thier flamboyancy of exemplifying a stereotype. At dinner last night, there was a table of solely fat, gay theater majors singing 90s pop songs out of key. Jesus Christ, RAPING my ears. No matter what persuasion someone is, I just think acting like the worst stereotype of it is obnoxious. |
As the Wiccans say, "An it harm none, do what thou wilt." I will admit that it almost always surprises me whenever I see a homosexual couple, and my eyes do tend to linger a little longer than they would on a couple of breeders. :P The reason for that is simple: I'm just not used to seeing it. I've got friends who are homo/bisexual, but that doesn't change the fact that I see heterosexual couples every time I walk down the street, and I almost never see homosexuals that are... together. MOST OF MY FRIENDS ARE SINGLE!! :P
Yeah, I actually don't generally mind seeing them, no matter who is involved. There's a time and place for everything. I'd have no problem seeing ANY couple making out in a park, or by the harbour downtown. Y'know, low-traffic and reasonably romantic areas. I can see wanting to give your partner an uber-passionate kiss under that big beautiful Oak tree. But when I'm hanging at my usual java joint, or shootin' pool at my favorite dive bar, I really don't wanna see that. I mean, you go to these places for the atmosphere, and it kinda takes away from that if there are couples slobbering all over eachother. We don't need to see your most private moments. Jeeze, it's almost like watching someone take a dump! There's an alleyway out back for a reason, folks! ;) |
I have not seen any gay couples in public, so I do not know how I would react. Most likely, it wouldn't bother me at all, and I would try to ignore them and go on with my life.
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Lots of gay couples here in Vancouver. I don't mind what they do, but I've mostly seen holding hands in here. It doesn't matter entirely.
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I dunno. It be a double edged sword. |
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Just don't have sex in public. Sometimes, I also get annoyed when some guy and girl start engaging in lengthy smooches as if they're just trying to buy attention. Everything else is none of my business.
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Yeah, my sister is lesbian and I worry about her whenever she makes that obvious in public. I probably shouldn't because we live in a pretty liberal sort of place, but I still get this sick sort of nervous feeling in my stomach whenever I notice someone noticing. (Can't help it though, I've heard some awful stories, and you always want to protect your siblings.) It doesn't bother me when people are holding hands or whatever, but PDAs more than a light kiss do bother me (regardless of the participants genders.) I'm not sure why it's troublesome, except maybe that I've now been initiated into the Adult Conspiracy (thank you Piers Anthony.) |
I agree with Alice on this topic, kisses, hand holding is fine by me regardless of your sexuality. At the mall in a corner I saw a gay couple really going at it, seriouslly there are better places to it then in the corner of the mall where everyone can watch. No one seemed offended, its just one of those moments that you want to say to the couple 'get a room!'
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I'm gay, and I live in Texas. And I'm in a relationship. Sad to say, I'm scared to even touch my boyfriend whenever we are out in public, for fear of being beat up. It's that bad. =/ The most we'll ever do outside of our apartment is "accidentally" bump eachother or touch eachother or touch hands, etc. And even then only whenever no one is watching.
I cannot WAIT to move somewhere else where we can at least hold hands outside of our house. It's just ridiculous how we are not able to show our affection to eachother except behind closed doors. |
Or you could just not care. I wouldn't care if people were staring at me because I was holding hands with a guy in public. Granted, Stephen doesn't do such things at all, but still.
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Right now, I can say that I don't mind at all, but I have never actually witnessed two guys engaging in any kind of PDA. I would probably try my best to avoid staring or looking since I wouldn't want to be rude. Honestly though, I would probably linger or flinch for a bit, having never ever seen something like that happen. Although I know I wouldn't be judgmental if I saw two guys kissing or holding hands, even though I would appear to be.
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I think its all good unless you decide to start taking your clothes off in the public and doing something that is totally inappropriate. Ocassionally if it is 2 hot girls I usually tend to raise an eyebrow and smile. |
I have no problem with homosexual PDA whatsoever. However, --this happened to me just the other day-- I can't help but feel a bit awkward when I see a homosexual couple holding hands, walking down the street. I have no problem with it but unfortunately most of the surrounding public does... Oh, and for the record I've never seen a lesbian couple in public, just gay couples. =S
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Why is that I wonder? |
It is not very rare to see gay couples showing affection around here; it is, after all, a college town. I get disgusted when I see couples--of any sexual preference--sucking face right out in public, though. They'll just be right there on campus, standing on the sidewalk... I mean, I know you'll have to be away from her for 2 whole hours, but I promise that then you can go home and do whatever it is you do with her.
All that being said, I am morally uneasy about homosexuality. It is not that I don't believe two people of the same sex can be truly in love--it is clear that they can--but I suspect that it is love deviating from what God created. The Bible is very clear on the matter, but as someone who grew up in a very conservative background, I can say that I'm in disagreement with how the church treats gays. Part of it is that they're just old, some of them--old people can get really stubborn and judgemental, you know (my parents being no exception)? We have scared homosexuals away from the church. I'd like to elaborate more, but I have to leave for class and I'm sure you don't really wanna hear it. |
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Regardless, what you do in private, should remain private cause no one cares who you bang but public there can be a problem such as the ones mentioned earlier. Excessive ammounts of PDA. Same goes for same sex marriage, I could care less. Whatever doesn't hurt me, doesn't bother me. Man I think I went off topic but... /me shrugs. |
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Now, people argue often about whether people are "born gay." I tend to think that they aren't--there seems to be no solid proof at this point--but I would definitely consider that some people have a genetic predisposition to be attracted to those of the same sex. However, this is still a poor argument for saying that they should be able to do whatever they are "genetically" inclined to do. Clearly, psychopaths and mass murderers and those who are just downright aggressive have some genetic predisposition toward it. This does not mean we let them act on it. Now, homosexuality is quite a different thing; my point is that using the "genetic" argument is inherently flawed. |
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As for homosexuality, I have seen children being raised to go both ways (no pun intended). I have seen two gay men raise a boy who ended up straight, and I have seen two lesbians raise two lesbian daughters. I think for homosexuality, it is a blend of nature and nuture, but how much of which is still a big ass mystery. |
Is it really important why someone is gay or straight though? The feelings are just as real either way. Well, I'm just speculating there because I've never been in love with another girl, but it certainly seems like it. </off topicness>
Has anyone here ever been guilty of gratuitous PDA? I did once (seriously, learned my lesson from that), and it made the school newspaper because we just happened to be in the path of a photographer out to get nature shots. Talk about twisted luck. The title of the article was "Decency now, decency." My boyfriend thought it was awesome, but I was really embarassed. |
I don't think its really important why someone is gay or not. If they are, then so be it. And if they want to hold hands and smooch a little, then fine. Just don't be doing it to show off or anything.
But, nope, I have never really been guilty of gratuitous PDA... mostly because I am single during the University year (Not by choice.... :() |
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The bible does contain historical documents and stories, and one that is utter nonsence cough *Adam* cough *Eve*, but a valuable myth none the less. The fact is that no matter the source, saying that homosexuality is morally wrong is... well... wrong, it is by far more a part of nature then anything else. Fatt said it well about two same-sex parents raising a child that turns out be straight, so your sexual orientation is not something that you choose on. |
I do not like gay people, male or female. People call this homophobia, but I can guarantee I'm not afraid of gay people. I am afraid of Spiders, though.
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I'm not homophobic cause my culture (filipino) tends to treat homosexuals as a piece of comedy. In every show I've watched there's always a flamboyantly gay, man who always makes the funniest jokes. I know it's a stereotype we've somehow created that all gay men have to act like girls. but ehh what can I do. I just hang out with alot of gay people cause they have so much drama. |
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If you go around beating up gays or doing whatever, that's wrong but if you quietly say or keep to yourself that you do not think gays -insert random comment.- That is your own opinion and people should respect that. If you are a homophobe then you'd be like, OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG !!!111111 HE'S GAY GET AWAY BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH... Much like if you are clastophobia and etc. I could say I don't like the lifestyle of -insert- whatever. And even if it's totally stupid, it's an opinion and that is what counts. Opinions don't harm people, it's when you go above and beyond and claim you must clense/make them turn into something they aren't. |
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Maybe it's due to the fact that I don't go to the city often but I rarely see two people of the same sex having any intimate contact in public whatsoever. Rarely as in i've seen it maybe twice. |
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I think far too many people take religion far too seriously. For one, we have no way of knowing how the universe was created, and we never will. If we knew that, we'd probably know how it's going to end, and if we know that, it might as well already be over, ya dig? It's a stupid question to ask because it doesn't help anyone. To paraphrase Albert Einstein, Frank Herbert, and who knows who else: The mystery of life is not a problem to be solved, it is a reality to be experienced.
Second of all, to believe in an all-powerful, all-knowing being that is somehow offended by it's very creations is utterly ludicrous. The Creater I know likes it when her creations change and grow. She's also pretty happy whenever her creations fall in love and, against all odds, make it work and help eachother to, you guessed it, change and grow. How anyone, let alone the Creator, can look at a pair of lovers of any gender and be offended is completely beyond me. Another point that a lot of people seem to miss is that religious traditions are meant to be a personal philosophy and set of theories that benefits the individual and aids in their development, not a rubric by which to judge those around you. The bible says that homosexuality is an outright abomination, but it also says "Judge not, lest ye be judged." "Modern" Christianity is more of an abomination than a bunch of homos ever was, IMO, because this very simple point is lost to almost all who follow it. I'll remind you that the bible was written fairly early in human evolution, in a time when reproduction was a lot more important than it is now. The big guy (or lady, whichever you prefer) was simply looking out for us at the time, and making sure we didn't die out before we reached a point of stability, but that's hardly a concern anymore. When there are six billion people consuming resources faster than they are renewed, homosexuality ceases to be a threat, and becomes a species-wide survial trait. Fear and hatred are much bigger threats to our great species than love, don't ya think? |
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I don't neccessarily want to step inbetween the discussion going on with blue and the other members of GFF but I think it is important to take into account cultural context and upbringing. I was raised a Catholic by conservative Korean parents. It was over time that I developed acceptance towards homosexuality and other "liberal" views. While is easy to call my previous points of view ignorant and irrational, its hard to discount the way we were raised. I think its unfair that certain religions have a negative outlook towards homosexuality among other things, but at the same time others should understand the situation. Growing up, we are extremely impressionable especially to the sayings of high authorities such as churches and parents. Blue has admitted to being raised religiously just as I have. For the most part, I think the argument going on is pretty civil so I'm not criticizing anyone. I just wanted to bring up a consideration. Thats just my input for now. |
But it's good for the voyeurs too. If the guy is hot, for instance, I get an giddy little thrill thinking about what ELSE he might be doing if he's going this far in public. Tripleplusgood if it's two guys making out. In Italy I saw two male teenagers holding each other while on a ferry to Capri. I stared basically the entire time. I'm sure the naked longing on my face was a bit off-putting, but in no way was it condemnatory.
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To interject some life (and controversy?) into this topic, I'm most certainly philosophically, practically, and theologically against homosexuality. That stated, it doesn't affect my personal relationships any more than it does for any other person ("You regularly steal? Back, heathen!"). I was rather shocked, however, when I travelled from Wisconsin to New Hampshire (college) and discovered that people of differing opinions on politics, religion, society, and the like don't often want to associate. *sigh*
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I tend to recognize that romance is gender-blind and so if two guys or two girls think the other is the shit, then well let them do their thing. I only ask that I be left out of it. Keep personal business to yourself and all that. Or in other words, don't make a spectacle about it, regardless of WHO it is. Admittedly, I don't mind as much if I see two chicks making out, but it is a bit rude to do it just in the middle of the sidewalk or something you know? That's why they have Girls-Gone-Wild after all :tpg: Quote:
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-------------- Now, for the three of you who actually read all of this, I THANK YOU. Its not everyday that I pull a Crash Landon and make something of this length, and also: This also may be subjective in that my personal beliefs are somewhat in focus with my above theories: That love (and I mean LOVE, not lust, or desperation, or sexual cravings or jealousy or mental illness or narcotics) transcends gender and identity and is pure and without restraint. God taught that his love is infinite, and so I think it is a mistake of the transcriptions of his word that has risen to the strife created today. I hope that is a sufficient enough answer :) |
Wow, well said, Dark. After reading through that, I'm kind of left speechless. I don't really know what to say. I totally agree with it though. Props to you.
Except for: "Hurray for reviving old threads!" And while I know it wasn't you, it still happened. :P |
Regarding natural ability to procreate as a criteria for the morality of the act, humanity has throughout history shown a great ingenuity in overcoming the restrictions placed upon it by nature. If it were possible some time in the future for two men or women to conceive, through some expensive and very involved medical procedure, for instance, does that change anything?
I ask because I don't think there's a clear line between what, with our technology, is merely working more efficiently with the natural functions that already exist, and what one would determine to be opposed. One could make the argument that advanced medical treatment of any kind is against nature. Lots of people would disagree, and then the question becomes at what level does technology change from working within the natural order to imposing our will upon it? The objection from the gay perspective to traditional meaning of marriages and inheritance doesn't really have anything to do with love either. I think that objection stems more from an apparent contradiction between one of the founding principles of this country, that all men are created equal and everything that entails, and the idea that right now, only a specific class of couple of recognized as a single unit by the government and given all of the privileges that entails. Granted, there's a undefined line there too between couples that are acceptable and couples that aren't. Undefined at least culturally. It is not yet a part of our cultural background, ie general things we all accept, that gay couples are ok. So really the discussion on the morality of the thing does need to come before the discussion on the rights that that entails, I agree with you there. I realize the thread was really old, but DN's a smart guy. I want to hear him talk. ;_; |
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I dont like over the top Public Displays of Affection whether it be hetro or homosexual couples. Holding hands, hugging and light kissing is acceptable to me. I'm not bothered what sexual orientation of the couple is if it makes them happy, why should anyone else be bothered.
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As for my stance? Well, to be honest, it was kinda like the media's influence on the imagery of drugs. A bit of the ol' propaganda brainwash effect (not TV ads, I'm referring to local. Possibly my old man). Flat-out didn't like 'em.
Then a rather bizarre thing happened. Around when I was 16, I ran into a gal that I knew from back when I was 9 until I was 13 or so. Had grown into quite a pretty gal, and I got around to talking to her. Most of it was online, since she lived 100 miles away at this point (I ran into her again when she was revisiting the old school at a friend's request). Quickly found out that we were almost entirely alike. Background, politics, humor, interest in anime (but not to the extent of being a freak), etc. Then I figured I'd finally find out if she had a boyfriend. I made a roundabout jab of someone mistaking my voice on the phone for someone else's when I tried to call her, saying "they figured I was your boyfriend I think~" Her response was "Ahahaha. I don't have a boyfriend." Immediately I did a bit of a victory dance but I felt my feet swept out from under me when she said she was only interested in girls. I covered up my disbelief rather swiftly, continued the conversation without missing a beat, but once I hung up? Ooof. Talk about a little maelstrom of emotions. We had our long stretches of not talking simply due to schedules and what-not, but finally we did so, and I thought to myself "meh... Fuck it" and just shut her sexuality out of my mind. Kept talking to her as a buddy. Then she actually came to me asking for advice in regards to a girlfriend of hers. Made me uncomfortable, but I gave her help. Bit by bit, I found myself more and more accepting, since I knew a homosexual personally and got used to talking to them. If she one day maaaagically turned straight, I'd date her in a heartbeat. But nothing shy of a fucked up emotional experience or blunt trauma to the head will cause that. 'Till then, she'll remain as she is: most definitely one of my best friends. I didn't think they were sodomites who would burn in eternal hellfire in the past. Never. But I'd grumble angrily about them. Now, they just strike me as bizarre (or rather unusual, being a better of choice of words) when I come across them. I visited San Francisco last year and saw two guys holding hands that walked down the street past me. I watched them for a couple seconds then looked on as if nothing happened. In addition, about a year before that, samari (former poster here) and I met up since we both attended A&M. He was homosexual, but I didn't feel even slightly uncomfortable talking to him, since I was used to him Guess I underwent conversion, thanks to my friend =o If you ever talk to someone of the religious right about homosexuals, it absolutely startles me as to how much hate they can have for a type of person without even knowing them. Bottom line though? It strikes me as out of place. I don't feel the urge to slit their throats or anything weird like that. It's just something I'm not used to seeing. If anyone here was exposed to the same background, you'd possibly identify. Something to compare it to? I have a pet beagle who is missing a leg. It was shot and had to be amputated. He's still a good ol' sweet beagle, but folks who haven't seen him before are really estranged by his stump/missing leg. It's just a matter of getting used to really. [/rant] Homosexual PDAs?:
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Dark Nation, if there wasn't a tremendous risk of turning this into a theology topic, I'd aruge that point for point. Since that isn't this topic's purpose, though, I'll just compliment you on having a strikingly cogent argument, despite my total disagreement with your outcome. Nice work.
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Seems like a good place to put my stance.
I'm a slightly liberal moderate living a very conservative lifestyle in one of the most conservative religions out there. And I'm gay. Most people don't understand how that works, but it's a fact of life for me. Reconciling conservative religion with homosexuality is a huge hurdle, and most people won't even attempt it unless it punches them in the face - either through their own struggles or through the struggles of someone they're close to. I grew up believing that homosexuality in all forms was wrong, unnatural, and an abomination in God's sight. Then I realized (early on, apparently) that I was definitely attracted to guys much more frequently than girls. That was never a choice presented to me - it's my natural inclination. When it then became obvious that no amount of intense prayer, fasting, or religious worship was going to change the way I felt, I knew I had to figure out where I was going to go with things. The way I see it, temptations are not sins. Jesus was tempted by the Devil himself - did that make Him a sinner? So my being homosexual is not a sin. Acting on that temptation - if I believe that homosexuality is a sin, then it's the acting that makes the sin. And I don't think that homosexual activity really has any place in the plan God has set up for us. I believe that one of the main purposes of life on earth is to pursue healthy family relationships, and that the natural order of things, and the conditions under which a family flourishes best, is with a father and mother who love each other, fulfilling whichever roles they have decided upon together. This doesn't mean I condemn people who believe otherwise - how you believe is your business, not mine. Of course I think I'm right, but anyone with any measure of self esteem ought to feel convinced of their own opinion if it's thought-out. So how do I live my life? I actively pursue the aspect of myself that isn't homosexual, but I don't ignore that aspect of who I am. Homosexuality doesn't define me, but it is part of who I am and I won't deny that. And love, for me, transcends gender and is more than just attraction and sex. I hope when I fall in love that I'm attracted to the person I fall in love with, but if that doesn't come I'll have another challenge to face. And if someone falls in love with anyone, same gender or not, I really shouldn't base my opinion on that relationship purely on 'what' they are. Concern for safety or emotional well being is one thing, concern for one's private bits is entirely another. |
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Gechmir: Funny enough I had a similar experience of my own like that. My opinons of Homosexality have flown from one extreme to another. At an early age (Of teenage years) I found an accidental exposure to the more stereotypical erotica of same-sex to be abhorent and disgusting, while on the other end I found myself seeing the viewpoints of those who were in long-term deeply committed relationships with those of the same gender, so in summary I had no defined stance on homosexuality, and to this day it remains fluid. I suppose that's a side-effect of my indecisiveness ¬_¬ Like you I had encountered a woman who I had an immediate and calm introduction to, and I felt none of the usual jitteryness or nervousness as with meeting new potential single women, and moments after I came to the conclusion that she either was taken or was a lesbian (The former happens on a scarily high level for me), it turned out that, yep, she was a lesbian... not bisexual, not bi-curious, not pseudo-lesbian, but full-blow dyke. However she was still an awesome girl and I still occasionally see her (She took a different major then I did, so our time of meeting was short) in the computer lab. GhaleonQ: Well perhaps in the future we can debate and have an intellectual d-d-d-dual! :tpg: Drex: I had heard that you were Bi, but I wasn't aware of being full blown gay. Well I must admit if more people like you had the open mind to accept that which was traditionally shunned by your peers, perhaps this whole gay/lesbian issue would work itself out much faster. |
'The healthiest way to deal with homosexuality is to ignore it until it comes up in a game of truth/dare.'
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I don't mind gay people holding hands and walking. For all I care I could be holding hands with my best friend and people could be thinking I'm a lesbian.
I only really frown when theres a couple making out/holding butts and what not. It's disgusting for little kids to see, and they raise questions that shouldn't be asking for another 10 years. I mean light kisses and hugs are nice, but if my boyfriend tries to do anything beyond that I smack him in. I mean you gotta have control, if you want to things more adultsy do it privately, rather then doing something inappropriate in public whichever gay or straight. |
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*bows down to Drex* I can't fathom the difficulty of that, and "respect" only begins to describe my feeling.
As for DN, well, AUGUSTINE, GO! *heaves out Master Ball* And, yes, I was warned for reviving the intriguing topic. |
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:tpg::tpg: God, I'd hate to see how they react to the word "faggot." *goes into orbit* HAHAHA. Also, Drex. Spoiler:
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There's this word called vernacular. I think it might be useful. There's another one called colloquial. That one might help too. Basically, people communicate with words that mean things. Sometimes these words used to mean other things. By choosing to be silly and pedantic about the evolution of words, and more to the point, some words and not others, you come off sounding like an arrogant prick what thinks 'e's better 'n the common man, so to speak. Aside from which, if you really wanted to be stupid, "homo" technically means man, so you know, you're not really saying much unless you're talking to lesbians. |
Only a homo would say that, Radez.
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Absolutely nothing wrong with being gay/homosexual/lesbian/queer/whateveryoufeeltheneedtocallit. One of my best friends from elementary school is gay, along with a lot of my other friends. (Being in my school's drama club sort of makes homosexuality a common occurrence. :p ) I don't mind seeing homosexuals holding hands in such in public, I think it's great that they're able to show their affection the same way heterosexuals are. However, like most everyone else, if it gets to dry humping and pretty much sex with clothes on, I'm pretty much against that no matter who you are.
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I have a friend who is gay but hes really cool about it. He doesn't mind if people say "gay" or any other words. He just makes jokes about it himself and then know one feels awkward talking about it anymore. I wish more gays acted this way.
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Even as a bi, it does bother me when things seem to be "getting heavy" in public. I normally don't put much thought to it, and I won't say anything, but it does bother me.
I just don't want to see it (or hear it, for that matter). |
As said above, i think that people have an issue with anybody showing excessive displays of affection in general, whether it be a man + woman, woman + woman, or man + man.
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I couldn't give a toss for gay people, but I have to admit that I hate the feminine/female-wannabe and butch lesbian ones. But if I had a friend that came out, I would still be his friend and don't give a shit about his sexuality. My motto: You're my friend no matter your race, religion, S.O., etc as long as you respect me and treat me accordingly.
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I've seen quite a few lesbian couples around Denver, more so than gay couples, which is unfortunate for me. However, I've never stopped myself from showing affection in public. I see no reason to. I didn't stop myself even when I lived in a town of 5,000 in Wyoming, so I'm certainly not going to in a town of 2 million.
Granted, I'm not out there groping my boyfriend or anything like that. Whatever affection I do show is usually a quick kiss or hand-holding. I try to smile at couples showing affection, though. It's nice to know that some people aren't afraid to show who they are regardless of their situation. |
I don't care holding hands or innocent kissing, anything beyond that, it's another story, the famous "get a room" comes in mind.
Gay or straight people should follow the same outdoors etiquette, as long as is discrete, it's okay. |
Dude... You know better than to bring back threads that have been dead for almost a year. FUCKING NECROPHILIACS.
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