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You know what pisses me off? Stores that charge more for larger sizes of clothing. It would make sense if the upcharge was gradual (i.e., $5 for small, $5.50 for medium, $6 for large) but instead, they just charge $2 more for XXL and above. If there were some logical reason for this other than greed, I could go along with it. Hell, they could take the $2 extra dollars and put it towards the cost of health insurance for fat people and I'd be ok, but instead I'm just lining the pockets of some rich store owner. It's not like it costs $2 to make a shirt or pants a few inches longer. It's not just obese people that get the raw deal either. In JCPenney this weekend, I was looking at identical shirts, one XXL, and one XXL Tall. The XXL Tall was $2 more.

Wal-Mart and McDonalds must have some secret arrangement to screw over fat people. First you lure the people in with the promise of a Big Mac, then you charge them more for their large clothes after they eat too much. Capitalism sucks, but it's not as if anyone's angry enough to do anything about it, right?

If it bothers you that much, stop eating at Macdonalds. That way you'l save money on over priced shit food as well as saving cash on your clothes when you shed a few pounds.

Anyway, charging people more for unhealthy stuff is a tried and tested way to discourage them from doing it. That's why they tax the fuck out of cigarettes, in part to stop people smoking. If you have to pay more for monster sized clothes, maybe you'll think about getting some excersize.

Watch Adam Curtis's, The Century of the Self. 4 part BBC documentary. It will all be perfectly clear. Here's a little snippit:


It doesn't exactly go into why XXL clothing costs more, but it does explain your last comment you made -- why no one is angry enough to care.

I'd have less of a problem with it if it were the government taxing me for it, but I sincerely doubt Wal-Mart or any other store cares about my weight. Besides, what about people who are just naturally large/tall? My entire family is on the large size; it's just the way we're built. Sure, I could lose a few pounds, but I'd still want to buy taller clothing, and I shouldn't have to pay more for that because of the way my body is built.

:rolleyes: Those greedy capitalists are at it again.

It's not a just few inches 'longer'; you must consider the whole surface area. Yes, dinosaur-sized shirts do indeed use up quite a bit more fabric.

What? No one has any duty to supply you with huge shirts. They cost more to produce, so you will pay more for it. If you don't like it, make your own shirts. And, uh, I have a very hard time believing that there are many people who 'naturally' have to wear XXL clothes. I am 6'2'' and weigh almost 200 pounds, but medium shirts fit me just fine.

I hate these terms that people use to make it seems like being overweight is ok. You are not plus-sized, thick, large, big boned, or husky. You're fat and you need to lose weight before your heart explodes in your chest. On the same token, don't expect the world to turn itself upside down to accomodate people who are too lazy to burn the extra pounds off their dumpy ass.

This may be a little too simplistic, but don't clothes for larger people cost more in terms of materials? Granted, cloth is very cheap, but you would still expect a large shirt to cost more fabric and therefore more money than a regular one.

Shin is right too, if you're having to buy larger clothes because you're overweight then you should do yourself a favour and try to slim down a bit. Excessive eating, like smoking and drinking is unnecessary, but people do it because they enjoy it. There was a guy on a TV show here a few days ago stuck in hospital because he was such a heavy drinker that his liver was shot to hell. He spent his life drinking, and said he'd spent £250,000 on alcohol over the years.

I actually find myself wearing XL t-shirts; not because I am fat but because I am very broad across the shoulders. Clothes seem to be designed for the "average" person, who has a weak build and a bit of a belly.

Have you tried maybe shopping at a store that's for bigger people?
They have torrid out for girls now, the big and tall store, and if you're emo as hell Hot Topic works AND they sell clothes for bigger people.

But honestly? I've never heard of a company charging extra for larger sizes. I work in retail, and all of our clothes are a set price. It doesn't matter if it's XS or XXXXL, the item is still the same price.

Might be where you live, too. Maybe.

I've never heard of this either.
Do I pay less if I'm buying a small? I can still shop in the kids section...

That's true, especially in the States, but you might want to wear slim-fit shirts instead, then. American Apparel, for example; their pricing is reasonable, and the shirts are also a bit longer than usual ones. If you just wear any XL, it may fit you in the shoulders, but it's probably too large otherwise.

An XXL shirt is not "dinosaur-sized" compared to an XL shirt, nor is an XXL Tall vastly larger than a XXL regular, and the same holds true for pants. If they wanted to charge more for extra fabric, then starting at small, each size should be progressively more expensive. Since they've just drawn a line between two sizes, theoretically I'm paying the difference in fabric for my shirt, and for Jim Bob's medium shirt as well.

For the record, I'm about 6'2", 250 pounds, the same size I've been for my entire adult life. XL is a bit small for me, and XXL is sometimes a bit large, but I like to wear my clothes on the baggy side. I think this pricing phenomenon is something relatively new, because I don't recall seeing it 5-10 years ago, but I've noticed it in just about every store I've been in.

I realize this isn't an earth-shattering issue, it's just a pet peeve of mine.

Umm, no. Exercise and get a proper diet and you won't need to spend more money on clothes.

As with other posters here, I've seen any shops charge more for larger clothes anyway. Try shopping on the internet instead if it's a phenomenon in your local area. Also, if you like the baggy look you're conceivably being charged extra for wanting to look like a rude boy rather than wearing stuff that fits. Fashion's a bitch ain't it?

All I can say is that you need to lose weight and start wearing clothing that fits you properly, instead of wearing baggy clothes to hide your fat. Sorry, but that's how it is.

Actually, I haven't seen it in many real stores, but it's very often like that on the internet. Take the lovely flatfalls shirts, for instance.

I like how people in this thread seem to only be thinking in extremes. XXL is suddenly "dinosaur-sized," wearing clothes a little loose for comfort is surely only to be trendy and fashionable like rappers and other "rude boys." Exaggerations are far more fun than reality!

I'm 5'11" and weigh roughly 225 lbs., and I can fit into a regular XL shirt if I want to without any trouble. Instead, I wear XXL because it's much more comfortable, looks a bit better I think, and depending on the brand some XL shirts can make it appear as though I have the manboobs of a god when I don't at all. I also prefer a little extra length than what XL tends to have, not for fashion and to impress my posse, but so that if my shirt gets caught on something and gets pulled up (which tends to happen with the poorly made school chairs that often have loose screws on the backs). I think we can all agree that no one should have to see my hairy back, right?

It's silly for stores to charge that much extra between the jump from XL to XXL when it isn't that much of a change. It isn't just some phenomenon in Nutty's area either, as I've seen the same thing at Sears, JCPenny, Dillards, Wal-Mart, etc. around here.

I like how $2 is a big deal for larger clothes. Next you'll be complaining that larger portions of food cost more.

Oh.

Call me crazy, but I'm 5'11" and 155 pounds, in great shape since I'm fairly active, and I don't shove burgers and cake down my gullet. My dad is 5'9", 245 pounds, in horrible shape since he isn't very active, and he drinks a ton of beer and drinks gravy from the pot.

Wonder what the deal is.

Mate, I didn't even know they made sizes bigger than XL. Pardon us for not being morbidly obese I'm sure.

It's called varying metabolism for one thing. A friend of mine eats triple-decker sandwiches as snacks, is the same height as me, does less exercising, and has trouble keeping his weight above 140 lbs. As for your dad, why is he not dead if he's drinking gravy from the pot and never does anything?

Morbidly obese is XXXL or those people who actually need to buy XXL shirts or their gut hangs out. Pardon me for not accepting an exaggeration as fact.

Morbid Obesity is being 100lbs over your ideal body weight or having a BMI of 40 or more.

Your BMI is 31.4 so whilst you're not morbidly obese, you are technically obese and although I am exaggerating slightly, you're a bit beyond "Big boned" don't you think?

Yeah, the closest you get to paying less for smaller sizes is shopping in the kids section...which I highly suggest if youre a female 8)
Seriously, they have some nice clothes now for little kids. Little girls Large fits me great and its so stupidly cheap.

From what Ive seen, Torrid has some really nice stuff; Id probably shop there if I was bigger.

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In England, kids clothes are free from VAT too so they're much cheaper. ^_^

Blah blah blah, metabolism blah blah blah. Gee, haven't heard this one before. Want to increase your metabolism? Get off your ass and start exercising instead of making that bullshit "my metabolism is slower, it's not fair that Lazy Skinny Friend X can chomp on burgers all day and I can't" excuse. Of course it's not fair. It's also not fair that a friend of mine can put in a lot less effort during a workout and gain way more muscle than I. It's genetics. You play with the cards you're dealt and you move on.

Or, you can keep making excuses. But you sure won't get any sympathy from me for having to pay $2 more for clothes.

Oh definitely, I fully admit that I'm overweight. I don't recall ever claiming that I'm "big boned" or anything like that. I could probably lose a decent amount of weight if I bothered to figure up an exercise regiment and eat a little better (although it's not like I do no exercise at all or shovel burgers into my mouth). I don't feel unhealthy and I look decent enough, so I'm satisfied with it.

Nice job with the hostility when I never once complained or claimed that I was dealt an unfair hand. I was simply responding to your stereotypical "I'm not fat, so the only explanation is that all obese people must be immovable lumps that don't even try to eat healthy" statement. While a good number of blobs do use body chemistry as an excuse, that doesn't mean there isn't truth to it in some cases. Is that my case? Hell no. I enjoy how I live and I don't feel or look unhealthy, so I'm comfortable with it. Maybe a bit of my problem is genetic, but not so much that I couldn't overcome it with some work.

Way to turn a simple complaint about a price ripoff into "lol shutup Fatty McFatfat." Perhaps instead of being so aggressive you could try to help your dad to stop guzzling alcohol and gravy?

Yeah nuttyturnip, duh. If you were skinny you wouldn't have to question the logic in the pricing of larger sized clothing.

Fine, I'm a fat, lazy American, and I'm ok with that. So are hundreds of thousands of my fellow countrymen. It's not like they're going to need a forklift to get me off my couch anytime soon, and that's not really the point of this thread.

The point is that stores have decided to profit off a segment of the population, and they're not doing it out of the goodness of their hearts (like say, a cigarette tax). What would happen if Sears decided to charge non-English speaking customers $2 more for everything they buy?

Where are all the other overweight members of GFF, anyway? It's not Tritoch and I are the only fat people here.

I am in favor of this language tax. It should go straight to the cashier as payment for all of the confusion and trouble.

No, I'm sorry, the money would go into the pocket of the CEO, who would use the extra funds to hire more immigrant landscapers for his house, who would then shop at his store and pay the "tax". It's a vicious cycle.

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Then... they would be accused of being xenophobic, and would lose business. I mean, wow, do you understand what you are saying? They are not charging you more because you're fat, they're charging more because it's a different product, in production of which more material is used. I don't even know, maybe you're really kidding. This ''businesses discriminate against me because 25% of my body is lard'' idea is ridiculous. Have you heard of supply and demand?
No, but maybe there aren't any more that think ''the man'' is out to get them for being fat.

Present. I wear XL, though, so I've never noticed the alleged price differences between sizes. I don't have a problem with stores charging more for bigger clothes. More fabric means it costs more to produce means it's more expensive to buy. Seems logical and fair to me.

I'd like to know where he/she is shopping anyway. As I said before, I've never seen or heard of a company charging more for different sizes. But I'm not against the idea.

It's funny how people make excuses for their problems.

Around here, you only start getting charged more when you head up past XXL into XXXL and other ridiculously behemoth sizes. And even then, it's like maybe a dollar or two more.

Oh hey did you know you can buy 10XL from those "big and tall" catalogs? Can you even imagine 10XL? My mind cannot comprehend.

I think a whale would wear 10XL. Anyway, the general consensus here seems to be that fat people should lose weight and stop worrying about the man, so there's no point in me arguing anymore. However, for those who say they've never seen this price phenomenon before, here are some examples:

Wal-Mart: S-XL XXL-XXXL $2 difference

Dillards: S-XXL 2X-5X (I'll grant you, 5X is humongous, but notice both pages have XXL, but if you buy it from the Big&Tall section, it'll cost you $5.50 more for the exact same size.)

Sears: Waist size 28-44 Waist size 46-50 $10 difference

Edit: Let me try another analogy, one that fat people would like. Using this pricing structure, I should be able to walk into a Burger King, and order any size french fries for the same price, except the super jumbo ones. How does this make sense?

My friend Shani has to wear 3XL, and he is an Olympian. He's in the best shape out of anybody I know, but he is also the second of tallest of dudes I know. Why does he wear XXXL? Any t-shirts smaller won't cover his belly. Tall dudes need long/wide shirts. My old stagecrew boss weighs in around 500lbs, and is about 6'5". He wore something that made Shani's wardrobe look like doll clothing, so 10XL isn't completely unheard of.

As far as the higher cost for larger than XL goes, it's supply and demand. Most people don't go larger than XL, so XXL and up don't sell too well. To make up for their cost of production, they need to increase the price somewhere. Don't forget, making the shirts is the easy part. It's the design and layout that have the biggest costs.

I second this notion!

I always thought it was as such: Bigger shirt > more fabric > MORE MONEY!

I am about the same size as Aardork (2 inches shorter and about 10ish punds lighter) and I can pretty easily fit into medium shirts, but prefer large for the "little extra comfort" factor.

I'm 6'4" and fit just fine into medium sized shirts and t-shirts. I disagree that being tall has anything to do with it.

I'm about 6'0'' even, and around 295. I have noticed pretty much everywhere that the XXL shirts are more, but it really doesn't bother me that much. It's not as if I'm sastisfied with my weight or anything, and it's kind of like a little reminder to lose weight. Like Shin said about taxing cigarettes (though I feel that's just capitalism), it can be viewed as nag to lose weight.

Interesting. I'll bring that up. I always love to harass him about being fat :boxing:

I do find it interesting that they don't have price differences for the lesser sizes as well.

Logically, wouldn't small shirts cost less than medium shirts, with this same logic? They don't though, they only increase the prices, for larger shirts.

There is a valid point on the issue of materials, but there is a bias here, like it or not. (Or perhaps just greediness, but both points suck)

Finally, someone who understands my point. I can die happy (of a heart attack, according to the people in this thread).

No, you're missing the point. There's no price differential for normal sizes because THEY'RE NORMAL. Look at a bell curve. Even with obesity running rampant, XXL is still in that skinny part on the edge. Those damn skinny emo boys do a fine job of balancing you out.

No, because most retail stores sell products based on demand.
In my store, we tend to have more XS-S sizes than large or XL because we don't get a lot of fatties in there. It's supply and demand.

Realistically, not that many people are as big as you are, and it takes a lot more fabric and time to make these clothes for you.

Either lose weight, find another store, or stick with paying the extra dough and shut up about it.

I could easily bitch about how stores overcharge me because I'm a size Small. Why should I have to pay the same price as some lardo? :aargh:

The XS sizes disturb me almost as much as XXXL. Some of those look like they're made for freaky midget children born without ribcages, not actual adults.
Perhaps that's because your supply and demand model is inaccurate. If that were true then there would be small price variances between each size rather than one jump between XL and XXL.

Where do you live, Midgetville? Around here at least, when clothes come in at the beginning of the season, there's an equal number of each shirt in all sizes (S-XXL). By the end of the season, when the remainder are being marked down, there are hardly any XXL left, a few XL, and lots of Medium and Small. Seems to me that would be the opposite of what you're describing.

What store are you talking about anyway? Something like American Eagle or Hollister (with their homoerotic models)? You're right, overweight people don't shop there, because if we really wanted to look trendy, we wouldn't spend $100 on clothes, we'd just lose weight.

Also, lol that hollister.com deals with incontinence supplies.

This would be true only if people weren't addicted to stuff like cigarettes and alchohol. Cigarettes and alchohol are tremendously expensive to make and buy. The suppliers are being taxed by the government to produce cigarettes and in order to offset this cost, the supplier raises the price of cigarettes. Because people are ADDICTED to tobacco, they will pay the higher price no matter what.

Normally when price goes up supply and demand goes down, but for products like cigarettes and alchohol, this does not apply and the big companies win.

Not here. Here the smals go first... and I have to settle for a medium, if ones available. Lots larges and an XL or two are always there.

If fatty food isn't addictive to some extent, why are there so many fat fuckers around? It's not as if it's fashionable to be a lard-arse or anything is it.

Alot of them would also be comfort eaters and the like of that aswell, either way its just a lack of self control. I've always recalled there being a higher price on on larger clothes though, as in past the large size, I don't find this at all shocking, it makes sense to charge more

I am a fattie. But I understand why stores do what they do.

It makes sense - even from a non-fattie point of view. XXL and so forth actually DO use a lot more fabric. I don't know how many of you folks out there do any sewing (very few, I would guess), but I can tell you that the difference in fabric use between a medium article of clothing and an XXL article of clothing is substantial.

The cost in maufacturing plus-size clothes is higher than that of manufacturing regularly sized clothing.

I am unsure if this is actually the case, but I imagine that would explain why the cost is different.

I don't wear XXL, believe it or not. But I can tell you that as a fattie, paying an extra $2 is not bad for a lot more fabric - even if you want something to just hang off of you, like a sweatshirt or whatever.

I just want to mention a little something about the other side of the spectrum on this issue.

Why do all the giveaway shirts have to be size XL or huger? Free shirts from various events (like at school) or ones that come bundled with special video game/anime/dvd sets are usually way too huge for me, and often pre-shrunk.

What about the little people? ;_;

It's free, what'd you expect? Put it in the dryer and shrink it.

"...often pre-shrunk." Plus, I've never succesfully shrunk any clothes in the dryer, even when I tried to. Evil.

Uh, no. Just because a majority of people wear smaller sizes doesn't mean they're short. It means they're not fat.
Where do YOU live? If it's texas, I guess I can understand, since it's the fattest (or one of the fattest, i forget) states.

I'm talking about stores in general.
And besides, fat people can't be trendy. I think it's funny when fat people walk around the mall and diss on the "trendy" stores like AF and shit. Just because you can't fit into the clothes doesn't mean it's a shitty store.
No, I wouldn't pay 100 dollars for jeans either, but I don't see the point in having a grudge against a store just because the people that shop there are thin.

Haha, who dislikes those stores because their customers are thin? That's pretty much the only complaint about them that I haven't heard. They're funny because of their racist hiring practices, walls covered with photos of nearly naked men, and their obscene prices for terribly made clothing.

I am a fat fuck because I sit around all day eating fried foods and drinking <beverages>. Oh, but I am a jolly fat man, I do not mind paying a few extra dollars to cover my extra flesh.

I've seen fat chicks walk into those kinds of stores and literally bitch because they don't make sizes large enough for their fat ass.
That's actually the biggest complaint I hear about "those stores".
Generally it's some overweight tubby who's jealous because the skinny girl gets all the attention and can shop in those kinds of places.

The only stores out of the mainstream that have predjudice hiring practices are AF and Hollister, that I know of. And it's not really racist. It just happens that there aren't a lot of black or diversified people that shop at Abercrombie.
And AF and Hollister don't discriminate against race. However, I do know a friend of a friend who applied to Hollister and they flat out told her she wasn't pretty enough to work there.

That, I think is retarded.

But other mainstream stores like American Eagle and Pacsun have more variety as far as employees go.

XXL is morbidly obese? wtf...

I had a BMI done out of curiosity about a month back. My BMI is currently about 15.0. And I wear a XXLT. Plus I'm in very good shape. It isn't bragging if it's the truth.

Not everyone who wears XXL is chubby. Take into about bodyframes and muscle developing scales. Lots of folks in XXL and up are chubby, but I wouldn't coin them all that way.

XXLT helps me out because, well, XXL is longer. And the T (tall) gives it even more extension. Wearing an average XXLT goes down to just below the bottom stitching on my back pockets.

As for the price differentiation? Look at it this way. There is a slight materials difference, sure. That could account for it...

But the bottom line is demand. There aren't nearly as many XXXL wearers as there are L wearers. To make them, it takes a bit more money. They have to accomodate the machinery that makes them, and make significantly less numbers than the other sizes. Bottom line is that it is an unpopular size. Takes time and money to make those changes or specialize machinery to make a size that large. It's just supply and demand. Sure, not as much demand. You'd think the price would be lower... But it is another step in a long plan in the production of things. They have to inconvenience themselves to make larger sizes, so they put a little extra amount on.

They can't very well double the price in hopes of panning out evenly across clothing-size brackets. But they can put a slight amount on so that in larger bulk orders, it'll pan out a little.

It's more fabric. More stitching. More buttons, ribbons, and other fancies. Also if you are large enough, you may need two people to hold your shirt while its sewn. That's more labor. Those little people who work in factories have a hard time holding that much fabric. It makes sense to me to charge more.

I guess I have no compassion since I'm completely average sized and everything on Earth is made for my convenience. <3

Sucks for tall people I guess. What are they going to do, file their legs down?

I like how this is the best thread ever.

TURNIP MAN: Man why do they charge extra for big shirts sage that shit

ten other hosers: LOL MAN UR HUEG AMERICA HOW ABOUT YOU LOSE SOME WEIGHT, EXCERSIZE, ETC, ETC, ALSO MORE POINTLESS RHETORIC WE'VE ALL HEARD ENTIRELY TOO MUCH.

Get out of the thread, faggots.

Anyways, I've noticed this too and I frown, but I just get used to it. Then again, I just wear hueg shirts because I hate tight fitting or even regular shit. My jeans are also HUEG. :typical black:

Before anyone makes any fat jokes I'm 6' 160ish

who am i kidding lol america = gigantic