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MrSatan Sep 7, 2006 10:52 PM

New Evangelion Movies!
 
here
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=9464
wow, talking about celebration!!!
for the 10th year anniversary there will be a new Eva Project consiting of 4 movies, a pequel, mid series, sequel and conclution, how sweet!!!
Let the milking begin!!!!!!!!!:biggrin:
any comments???

Magi Sep 7, 2006 11:02 PM

Seriousely, as long as Unit 1 goes beserk at least once on something in each of those movies, I am a happy camper.

JazzFlight Sep 7, 2006 11:06 PM

I'm shitting my pants with excitement.

Eva is still my favorite anime series, and I would love to see how a sequel to EoE would address the... particular issue with the ending.

End of Eva spoiler:
basically, if humans are allowed to return to their own forms (which I hope is the case), or if Shinji and Asuka are the only ones left on Earth (which I doubt).

It's kind of like when FF7: Advent Children was announced. Basically, the group that thought that humanity was wiped out in the Meteor was declared wrong.

How are they going to get the same voice actors to sound the same, though? This is quite a project.

Mucknuggle Sep 7, 2006 11:45 PM

This is pretty hot. Considering that I own the entire series, twice, I'm definitely going to buy this.

MrSatan Sep 7, 2006 11:48 PM

me too, Mucknuggle a nice addition i would say.
but i never dreamt that eva would have a sequel(and prequel).
i hope that with the new improvements in animation and cg effect it would kick ass!!!

UltimaIchijouji Sep 8, 2006 12:02 AM

I'm not pleased or surprised. Never watched Evangelion, I doubt I'd like it. But anime has been pretty shitty quality nowadays. Considering this is a mindless milking effort, I don't think anything that Evangelion fans will be satisfied with will come out of this. Come on now, expanding this universe ten years later? I just don't believe that its gonna be worthwhile with the state of the industry now.

Watch for lots of Rei and Asuka pantyshots, a mild sex scene, and lots of crappy fanservice.

JazzFlight Sep 8, 2006 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultima
I'm not pleased or surprised. Never watched Evangelion, I doubt I'd like it.

Well, now. From that nugget of information, I don't think your opinion regarding the quality of said sequels/prequels is remotely relevant to this discussion then.

MrSatan Sep 8, 2006 12:20 AM

i agree with jazzflight.
In a fact, a prequel could pretty much tie many things that were not clear, and events that we all would want to watch, that have relevance in the main series**thinks in the first impact****

JazzFlight Sep 8, 2006 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MrSatan
i agree with jazzflight.
In a fact, a prequel could pretty much tie many things that were not clear, and events that we all would want to watch, that have relevance in the main series**thinks in the first impact****

Precisely. I'd also like to see the destruction of Tokyo-1 / flooding of a lot of the world / building Tokyo-2 and 3, etc...

We as viewers were kind of thrown into a very limited time period in this "future world," without seeing too much of how it operates. I mean, what physical state is the US or Europe in?

But besides that, it'd be good character development for Yui, Gendo, and Fuyutsuki.

Spatula Sep 8, 2006 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JazzFlight
Precisely. I'd also like to see the destruction of Tokyo-1 / flooding of a lot of the world / building Tokyo-2 and 3, etc...


Yeah, basically the effects of the Second Impact, if I remember correctly. This makes me want to hasten my purchase for the Eva Platinum collection for around $80 for the thin pak (anyone can say this is good or not?).
I just found EOE to be downright depressing, despite much of the world becoming a "oneness" entity.

I feel terrible.

Gunbuster's ending was a bit more optimistic though.

Zelnick Sep 8, 2006 12:50 AM

Has anyone ever heard the supposed backstory behind Evangelion?

The one about a race of "aliens" colonizing planets across the universe and that the reason why there are Humans and "Angels" on the same planet is because the aliens accidentaly sent 2 kinds of colony ships (the two moons, eggs, whatever you wanna call 'em).

I think there was more too, but I don't remember.

Magi Sep 8, 2006 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JazzFlight
But besides that, it'd be good character development for Yui, Gendo, and Fuyutsuki.

The manga version goes into a lot more details for some of the minor character (and characters in the background) interms of their history, compares to the anime version, so do you think it is possible that they could make the prequal base on that?

map car man words telling me to do things Sep 8, 2006 01:20 AM

This is pretty great, I never say no to more Eva. Even if they manage to botch up the new stories or style somehow, you'll always have the original series. Either was it'll be a lot more interesting to see than the US live-action I think they're still working on.

It would be super halious if they made them based on Re-Take 0-4 ='D

avanent Sep 8, 2006 01:29 AM

While this completely seems to me as a ploy to milk out more money from the fans... I will gladly submit to it.

What ever happened to that hollywood project that Weta was involved in?

Magi Sep 8, 2006 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwarky
It would be super halious if they made them based on Re-Take 0-4 ='D

If they make it using the rest of Re-Take, I'd pay money to see it.

map car man words telling me to do things Sep 8, 2006 02:04 AM

Precisely. But then, I would love to see even something like Girlfriend of Steel 2 or Shinji Raising Project animated for that matter.

Soldier Sep 8, 2006 02:22 AM

You know, when someone sent me this link, I rolled my eyes at the news.

But then I had to read the link 4 times afterwards to discover that this isn't regarding the live movie (which is still going?).

I honestly thought that after years of merchandise milking, a torrent of comedy shows and the undying love of fans worldwide that an honest to God new animation of Evangelion would never, ever happen.

Suffice to say, I'm shocked. And of course I am nearly shaking with the prospect of this. Evangelion was and still is the absolute best anime series of all time, but it's more than that; it remains one of the most influential media I have ever witnessed in my life.

BUT, I still need some more information (and some pictures). The wording sort of makes it sound like it will be something new. There might not even be a Shinji, Asuka, Rei or Misato in this version. Gainax isn't one for consistency (Gunbuster 2).

But, I will be waiting just like the rest of you for more news.

Magi Sep 8, 2006 02:23 AM

Ah.. the girl friend of steel. Actually, I can really see it as a movie. Since a lot of the animated movies for anime series sometimes break from its conventional continuity (See: DBZ and Doraemon). So I wouldn't be surprised if they make it into a movie. Hm, although according to the article, it isn't remake or improvement of the kind, so I am not sure if this particular instance apply or not., however, I would really like to see the girl friend of steel as a movie. even though I had only seem a bunch of screen shot for that….

Soldier Sep 8, 2006 02:27 AM

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While the new story will be set during the same time frame as the original TV series
This could mean a number of things. It could focus on a group of people who witnessed the Angel attacks but weren't directly involved. It could even mean that it takes place thousands(?) of years after the End of Evangelion with a newly re-populated earth.

Or maybe, just maybe, this will be an alternate story taking place after the TV series, since the End was never really labeled as an official ending, but an alternate take.

A sequel that doesn't involve
Spoiler:
a giant Rei, Asuka being eaten alive, and Shinji doing something other than laying around while everyone around him dies?
Damn, that would be sweet.

EDIT-00: Actually, what would be much sweeter is starting the series from scratch and make it closer to the manga, which I always found to be better written than the TV series (more backstory on secondary characters, a less whiny Shinji, a less bitchy Asuka, a slightly more evil Kaworu, etc).

EDIT-01: Newtype Scans

EDIT-02: Spoiler-tagged humongous scans



The group shot is likely just made for the magazine, not an actual shot of the new movie. At least I hope that's the case, since the art style is a little cuter than what I remember. If they're going to be serious with this, I want an update to the designs.

How about the debut of Freckles Asuka? :)



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Records have also been circulating. According to that information:
-The content is quite different though the time base of the story is the same as the original TV series.
- It will be a remake, however, it is not a re-creation but a "new work".
- The approach will be different than what Tomino-san did with the Gundam Z New Translation films, there will apparantly be a large amount of new material.
- Even if the TV series has not be seen, the viewer will be able to enjoy it. Though the content becomes easy, it is not redundant to those already familiar with the series.
- The technique that purposely scatters difficult words and phrases will not be used any longer.
- As an antithesis to current animation industry segments, it is an attitude on the production side to pull the act in the age that started from Eva.
-toonzone.net

My rage will know no bounds if this is just another milking of the original series with new footage tossed in. I don't want to see a single frame from that show used again. God, Gainax, don't milk it AGAIN. :tpg:

map car man words telling me to do things Sep 8, 2006 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER
How about the debut of Freckles Asuka? :)

They gave the freckles to Hikari, so it's doubtful.

I rather like the "new" style, but if things get grimly serious like in the original series, the cute style will clash more shockingly :(

Decoy Goat Sep 8, 2006 04:13 AM

I thought that Evangelion the series and the movies were the most pointless portrayals of weak pseudo-philosophy in popular media ever created.

I wanted all of the characters to die in a fire, and more than that I wanted the writers that destroyed what could have been a memorable and entertaining series into a mindless festival of the lowest dredges of human character exploration.

Put simply it was about as worthwhile as the Matrix (ie. not), but it had explosions and form-fitting costumes so no matter how much you badmouth it, teenage boys everywhere are still going to wank over it like Shinji bashing it to Asuka's comatose body which incidentally is a perfect metaphor for the story.

I am totally not pleased with this news for the simple fact I'm going to have to put up with a whole new generation of retarded 13 year olds screaming about how deep and wonderful it is.

Tellurian Sep 8, 2006 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Decoy Goat
I thought that Evangelion the series and the movies were the most pointless portrayals of weak pseudo-philosophy in popular media ever created.

I wanted all of the characters to die in a fire, and more than that I wanted the writers that destroyed what could have been a memorable and entertaining series into a mindless festival of the lowest dredges of human character exploration.

Put simply it was about as worthwhile as the Matrix (ie. not), but it had explosions and form-fitting costumes so no matter how much you badmouth it, teenage boys everywhere are still going to wank over it like Shinji bashing it to Asuka's comatose body which incidentally is a perfect metaphor for the story.

I am totally not pleased with this news for the simple fact I'm going to have to put up with a whole new generation of retarded 13 year olds screaming about how deep and wonderful it is.

Quotet for truth.
Not that Eva hasn't been an enjoyable experience for me back then.
But it certainly wasn't the ANIME OF TRUE ETERNAL ENLIGHTMENT most rabid fanboys/girls seem to make it.
You think Eva is deep and confusing? Go watch Lain. And Paranoia Agent.
Evangelion really seems to Anime what The Matrix is to movies...

Bigblah Sep 8, 2006 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Decoy Goat
I am totally not pleased with this news for the simple fact I'm going to have to put up with a whole new generation of retarded 13 year olds screaming about how deep and wonderful it is.

I take great pleasure in informing you that you, sir, are part of the god damn problem.

Anti-fanboys are just as obnoxious as the fanboys themselves.

Decoy Goat Sep 8, 2006 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigblah
Anti-fanboys are just as obnoxious as the fanboys themselves.

Yeah well until the moment you see me gathering and forming a picket line outside your local parliament and wearing a shirt that says "say no to Eva" you'll always have your doubts about whether I stop random nerds with NERV shirts on the street to punch them.

You're lucky you have a set of Babar customs Sir, as it makes me totally incapable of being far more mean about the fact that I chose to have and express my opinion on this subject.

Bigblah Sep 8, 2006 05:55 AM

What the hell is with Babar? It somehow makes me awesome and I don't even know who he is.

Scarletdeath Sep 8, 2006 05:59 AM

HOLY CRAP THIS IS GREAT NEWS. Finally there will be some aftermath story, which will hopefully explain WTF HAPPENED in the ending of Eva. Also, dammit, I must buy the box set again this time.

Decoy Goat Sep 8, 2006 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigblah
What the hell is with Babar? It somehow makes me awesome and I don't even know who he is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babar_the_Elephant

There's a cartoon series as well that I used to watch as a child, and occasionally catch on tv in the mornings here when I forget to go to class.

Far better than Evangelion! >:D

MrSatan Sep 8, 2006 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by avanent
While this completely seems to me as a ploy to milk out more money from the fans... I will gladly submit to it.
in?

Of course it is, but that dosent mean that we wont have a quality product that will fit our demands

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Originally Posted by avanent
What ever happened to that hollywood project that Weta was involved in?

no idea. i think it stalled until further notice

Burp Sep 8, 2006 08:03 AM

I heard that this movie will be more "lighted" in the story and not so deep as the original Evangelion was... i mean, they said in Newtype that they will "not use hard words", whats with that? i mean, Evangelios IS a deep story.

Whatever, its good news, in a good time because i was sick of too much Evangelion everywhere, its about time now.

Soluzar Sep 8, 2006 08:19 AM

I enjoyed Evangelion as much as the next fan, but I'm still not glad about this pointless milking of the franchise. I find the ending entirely satisfactory, and mostly comprehensible. I can't imagine the new stuff being entirely consistent with the old, and since I didn't think it needed anything more, I won't be buying this, or even downloading it.

I enjoyed Eva, but I'm not really an Eva fan anymore.

Spatula Sep 8, 2006 08:29 AM

Babar, LOL. Sorry, Blah, I found that show comical and sad at the same time :tpg: You've never seen Babar???

On a related note, somehow I'm not 100% surprised about this. After the release of the recent Gunbuster 2 which was made basically 20 years after the original, I didn't doubt Anno would return to Eva in some way, shape, or form. I'm most interested in the mid-series myself, but the 4 movies does sound pretty sweet too.

Krelian Sep 8, 2006 08:52 AM

Holy shit ECSTASY TIME. This is totally fantastic and utterly unexpected. I honestly don't give a shit if it's "milking the franchise" - The original had substance, and hell, it's a franchise that's still ripe for expansion. This is going to be great.

map car man words telling me to do things Sep 8, 2006 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Spatula
I'm most interested in the mid-series myself, but the 4 movies does sound pretty sweet too.

Don't misunderstand. There is no "mid-series" in the works, one of the four movies takes place "mid-series" (while one takes place before the series and two after it, etc). The four movies are the only ones coming out.. though who knows, maybe we'll get an animated OVA of GoS2 at some point <3 :tpg:



That said, a while back I was a bit surprised to find out how much Eva was still being made. These movies are merely a return to animated Eva, but NGE has been going on in manga form for a while now.

Not only Sadamoto's NGE manga (which I think is still being released), but also Girlfriend of Steel 2 (now Angelic Days under license), which I loved, and the Shinji Ikusei Keikaku manga (based on the PC/DC game of the same name), which was very fun too.

Too bad translations for it have been very slow (only two chapters). Seeing the NERV crew (including Gendo) power up the HQ during a blackout by pedaling on exercise bicycles was too hilarious to pass up.

http://staff.gamingforce.com/qwarky/ikari12.jpg

(yes these are official Gainax endorsed series, not doujin)

Pyocola Sep 8, 2006 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwarky
(yes these are official Gainax endorsed series, not doujin)

Not that that's particularly surprising, considering how much they've milked and sold out the property. If it wasn't such a hassle and if they could make some decent money off of slapping the official Gainax label on all the EVA doujins out there, they would probably do it.

Regarding the movies, could be very interesting and nice to see them bringing it back to the original animation, as I have pretty much zero interest in all the manga/game spin-offs out there. I wonder though if they'll go with a more traditional style or if they'll do it in their crazy weirdo style like Top wo Nerae 2 and FLCL.

map car man words telling me to do things Sep 8, 2006 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyocola
Not that that's particularly surprising, considering how much they've milked and sold out the property. If it wasn't such a hassle and if they could make some decent money off of slapping the official Gainax label on all the EVA doujins out there, they would probably do it.

They could have officially endorsed Re-Take if it weren't for the graphic sex scenes, I guess. It has more than enough plot and skillful narration to match the bext of Gainax.

But then, had it been an "official" Gainax release, Re-Take might not have become so legendary among the doujin masses.

The character designs in the Newtype scans there looked a lot closer to traditional style Eva than the Aim for the Top 2 and FLCL look. It's really all up to what team handles the movies.

Dopefish Sep 8, 2006 12:44 PM

This is more interesting to me than a live-action Eva that has not been greenlit.

FatsDomino Sep 8, 2006 01:32 PM

Hopefully they won't run out of ink this time. ='D

MrSatan Sep 8, 2006 03:15 PM

i wonder what the final movie would be about, maybe the events of the end of evangelion, wasnt really true, but a possibility perhaps???

Misogynyst Gynecologist Sep 8, 2006 03:46 PM

I get the feeling that this announcement may very well simply be the same long-term disappointment that the Star Wars prequels added up to be.

Adding on to something as well-established and well-liked as Eva will only amount to failure, no matter how monumental or slight. Nothing will be the original and an attempt to "expand" on the series is more or less proof that there is nothing more to be said about the original series.

So why bother? Obviously, yes, they like money - but so does George Lucas and look what we ended up with.

Soldier Sep 8, 2006 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwarky
Not only Sadamoto's NGE manga (which I think is still being released), but also Girlfriend of Steel 2 (now Angelic Days under license), which I loved, and the Shinji Ikusei Keikaku manga (based on the PC/DC game of the same name), which was very fun too.

The official manga is still going because Sadamoto is moving very, very slowly with the series. And I'm dying to see if he'll end the series the same way as the movie, or venture toward something completely different (this has been a source of speculation for quite a while).

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Originally Posted by Qwarky
I rather like the "new" style, but if things get grimly serious like in the original series, the cute style will clash more shockingly

I'm still not certain if the artwork found in the Newtype is actual art for the movies, but I'm hoping it isn't. For a massive project like this, it feels a bit lazy to simply re-use the old designs and make them "cuter".

Remember how the cosplay, fan-art, and doujin community exploded when we were first given the redesigns for FFVII? Imagine that times two (or even three) if the same thing was done for Shinji and company. Redesigns are all the rage these days, and I would love an update for the characters, even if it was just to resemble Sadamoto's art style more.

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Originally Posted by Qwarky
They could have officially endorsed Re-Take if it weren't for the graphic sex scenes, I guess. It has more than enough plot and skillful narration to match the bext of Gainax.

I stumbled upon Re-Take once, thinking it was just a typical hentai doujin. But then I *gasp* actually read some of it, and found out it was a serious doujin. Anyone have any direct links of the chapters?

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I wonder though if they'll go with a more traditional style or if they'll do it in their crazy weirdo style like Top wo Nerae 2 and FLCL.
The latter choice is my greatest fear right now. I have no desire to see Fooly Coolyvangelion. I don't want them to do something weird or absurd just for the hell of it. If they're going to be serious with this "revival" then they'd better play it straight.

The decision to remove the sporadic flashes of text (at least that's the rumor) is a good one. It was interesting the first couple of times we got into Shinji's head, but it got played out when they based the entire second half of EoE with it. The text flashes were mostly a coverup to save money anyway, and...

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Originally Posted by AcerBandit
Hopefully they won't run out of ink this time. ='D

With all the money they've been making with merchandise, I expect the production vaules to be nothing but astronomical. Then again, the fact that they signed on four movies at once should be a good indication of the budget (as long as those movies are over an hour and a half each; anything less might as well be an OVA).

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This is totally fantastic and utterly unexpected. I honestly don't give a shit if it's "milking the franchise"
They were milking it with the countless model kits, dating sims, re-released DVD's, and lifesize pillows. For the first time in years they're doing something notable with the series.

map car man words telling me to do things Sep 8, 2006 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER
I'm still not certain if the artwork found in the Newtype is actual art for the movies, but I'm hoping it isn't. For a massive project like this, it feels a bit lazy to simply re-use the old designs and make them "cuter".

Remember how the cosplay, fan-art, and doujin community exploded when we were first given the redesigns for FFVII? Imagine that times two (or even three) if the same thing was done for Shinji and company. Redesigns are all the rage these days, and I would love an update for the characters, even if it was just to resemble Sadamoto's art style more.

While it's true that a redesign of sort wouldn't hurt since this is closer to a remake than a second season (where they usually keep the old designs), the Eva designs are pretty iconic, so Gainax would be a fool to alter them too drastically. I'm sure the designs in the scan isn't obviously directly lifted from footage, but Newtype pretty much always uses designs from the series, so if you see a certain style in one of their features, the show will usually look like that.

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I stumbled upon Re-Take once, thinking it was just a typical hentai doujin. But then I *gasp* actually read some of it, and found out it was a serious doujin. Anyone have any direct links of the chapters?
No, but I can pack and send Re-Take 0-3 for you. 4 has just recently been released and ends the series quite dramatically, but it's far too long to have been translated yet, unfortunately :(

They also just recently released a soundtrack for Re-Take which I've been listening to lately

http://staff.gamingforce.com/qwarky/1155291587914.jpg

It's really quite great, even though it's only 8 songs. Very impressive work and fits the atmosphere well. If you want, I can send it or link you to the torrent.

Scarletdeath Sep 8, 2006 04:25 PM

Q. I'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT.

Soldier Sep 8, 2006 04:35 PM

They even did a soundtrack for it? Damn. Yes, I'll take whatever you got. If things go sour, Re-Take may prove more entertaining than the actual movies. :/

EDIT: Here is Re-Take 1-3.

http://rapidshare.de/files/32455413/Re-Take.rar.html

EDIT: Here's Re-Take 0 (read this after chapter 3).

http://rapidshare.de/files/32456582/...AKE_0.zip.html

Lukage Sep 8, 2006 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Decoy Goat
Yeah well until the moment you see me gathering and forming a picket line outside your local parliament and wearing a shirt that says "say no to Eva" you'll always have your doubts about whether I stop random nerds with NERV shirts on the street to punch them.

You're lucky you have a set of Babar customs Sir, as it makes me totally incapable of being far more mean about the fact that I chose to have and express my opinion on this subject.

And I'm sure I could find an anime you like and threaten to punch you. If you hit me while I wore my EVA shirt (I'd love to take a pic now and post it), I'd tear you apart like UNIT04. You can always...you know...ignore it?

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Originally Posted by Scarletdeath
HOLY CRAP THIS IS GREAT NEWS. Finally there will be some aftermath story, which will hopefully explain WTF HAPPENED in the ending of Eva. Also, dammit, I must buy the box set again this time.

I'm debating. Finish the Platinum Collection. Or....keep my Perfect?

MrSatan Sep 9, 2006 12:05 AM

well the platinum edition have a better image/sound than perfect BUT perfect have the spanish dub, which is really good.
i have the platinum eidition, but if could i would get the perfect just for the dub. but if i have to chose ill take the platinum, is better overall.

Soldier Sep 9, 2006 12:12 AM

Man, that Re-Take doujin is something else. At one point it feels like typical fanfiction (Shinji using Unit-01 to a level beyond what was shown in the anime, having an underage marriage to Asuka with no one protesting, etc), but the art style is so fantastic it almost feels official. It's also incredibly depressing, which should be the norm for EVA fans, but the romance in this book is handled extremely well. I'd almost wish that Gainax would make it official, save for two criticisms.

1. The sex scenes feel pointless. Sure, they're integral to the story, but wasn't necessary to show all the details. Showing Shinji pound his surprisingly large entry plug into Asuka's AT Field (I tried) isn't some sort of visual symbolism, it's just to attract the hentai crowd who would obviously be too bored with all the text to begin with. And you can't possibly expect me to believe that Shinji's first time would go so smoothly. Where did he learn moves like that? :edgartpg:

2. I found Rei's reactions and decisions to Shinji and Asuka's consumation a bit out of character. It's true that it was meant to be creepy, and we really don't know how Rei would react to rejection, but I don't think she'd go that far.

I went and edited/removed all the sex scenes and most of the nudity out of the chapters so my sister could read them. I can send the edited chapters for anyone who prefers to read the stories hentai-free.

YeOldeButchere Sep 9, 2006 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwarky
No, but I can pack and send Re-Take 0-3 for you. 4 has just recently been released and ends the series quite dramatically, but it's far too long to have been translated yet, unfortunately :(

Erm, actually, it's been translated already:

Re-Take 4 Torrent: http://www.deadfrog.us/index.php?act=entry&id=6947

Re-Take 4 Rapidshare: http://rapidshare.de/files/32354905/...s_V2_.zip.html

The translation seemed OK, too.

Soldier Sep 9, 2006 12:55 AM

That is awesome. I was starting to dread the thought of waiting to see how this ends. :)

JasonTerminator Sep 9, 2006 01:03 AM

Just so you guys know, ADV is releasing YET ANOTHER version of Eva on DVD at the end of this year, so you might want to think twice about buying the Platinum collection. Not to mention that apparently, they removed all the extras on the thinpack release of the Platinum Collection.

Makes me almost happy I skipped the Platinum collection.

Decoy Goat Sep 9, 2006 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lukage
And I'm sure I could find an anime you like and threaten to punch you. If you hit me while I wore my EVA shirt (I'd love to take a pic now and post it), I'd tear you apart like UNIT04.

I've always waited for the defining moment of being threatened with physical violence on the internet.

Now that it actually happened it feels kind of hollow because it was executed clumsily by some dork with aspirations of being ULTRA POWERFUL MECH HERO.

Pro-tip: You should actually try to interpret and understand the words you read on the screen before diving into a pointless e-rage over something inane as bad anime.

JazzFlight Sep 9, 2006 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonTerminator
Just so you guys know, ADV is releasing YET ANOTHER version of Eva on DVD at the end of this year, so you might want to think twice about buying the Platinum collection. Not to mention that apparently, they removed all the extras on the thinpack release of the Platinum Collection.

Makes me almost happy I skipped the Platinum collection.

Woah, what?

You got a link to news about this? I can't really see how they can improve the Platinum edition, it's pretty much perfectly fixed (from the original) in terms of video quality.

(I'm pissed that the individual volumes got rushed out of stores and replaced with the thinpak. I have to get around to ordering the last two platinum volumes, but their price alone will come up to the price of the thinpak itself!)

EDIT: http://www.amazon.com/Neon-Genesis-E...093620?ie=UTF8
Looks like this is the next box set.

Not really worth it, the major selling point is the inclusion of a bomber jacket (and some little video extras and crap I don't need).

Fortunately, the actual series that's included in that set is the platinum one, so I'll finish buying the individual volumes.

Bigblah Sep 9, 2006 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Decoy Goat
Pro-tip: You should actually try to interpret and understand the words you read on the screen before diving into a pointless e-rage over something inane as bad anime.

Do you have a e-habit of taking e-jokes seriously just so that you can drag out your e-arguments longer than they have any e-right to be?

Spatula Sep 9, 2006 01:21 AM

I know about the 10th Anniversary collection but I see that going at over $150 USD some, so probably not. So what I'm hearing is that (correct me if I'm wrong)

THIN PAK Platinum =/= Individual released volumes of Platinum?

Basically what I want is something better than the original 1996 release of the series, since I got that and promptly returned it, sup Bigblah, remember that? GOOD DEAL SIR!

LOL.

I saw the Platinum Thin Pak for about $85 CDN from DDD, and I'm quite inclined on getting that. I'm not much of an extras kinda person. What sort of extras are missing in the thin pak version?

JasonTerminator Sep 9, 2006 01:32 AM

Yeah, that's the set.

The release will be right around DDD's 20% off sale, so it could be worth it at that price. (Although, the only reason I'm thinking about it is that I'm a sucker for extras, and that set will have them all, as opposed to the Platinum thinpack's lacking of them).

EDIT: The thinpak version of Eva Platinum has all the episodes (26 regular, plus 4 "director's cut"), with remastered picture and 5.1 DD Jap. sound. That's it, no extras at all.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Sep 9, 2006 09:23 AM

Someone tell me exactly what this Platinum release is about. I've see it in stores, looked at it and put it back; I already have the original boxed set - do I really need this new stuff?

chato Sep 9, 2006 09:28 AM

I probably need it too. It'd be better if they released the platinum set with both movies (i never saw or purchased them yet after all these years..^^; ).

map car man words telling me to do things Sep 9, 2006 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
Someone tell me exactly what this Platinum release is about. I've see it in stores, looked at it and put it back; I already have the original boxed set - do I really need this new stuff?

As far as I understand, the Platinum release was cleaning up and remastering the whole series so it looks a whole lot better and with improved audio. The main draw for many were the "director's cut" episodes, which added a few more scenes into some of the episodes.

If you already have the original collection like me, I don't think it's really that crucial, but for someone getting the series for the first time, it's a good starting point.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Sep 9, 2006 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwarky
As far as I understand, the Platinum release was cleaning up and remastering the whole series so it looks a whole lot better and with improved audio. The main draw for many were the "director's cut" episodes, which added a few more scenes into some of the episodes.

What were the additional scenes? I mean, did they add anything to the series?

sjcrik Sep 9, 2006 10:44 AM

I'm really interested in that sound track for Re-Take, found a torrent but it didn't work. Any way to share it with us? =)

map car man words telling me to do things Sep 9, 2006 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sjcrik
I'm really interested in that sound track for Re-Take, found a torrent but it didn't work. Any way to share it with us? =)

I used
http://www.deadfrog.us/index.php?act=entry&id=6909

If you used the same one, the comments say:

"In case you get a "no host URL" type error, manually edit the tracker announce URL to point to http://tracker.deadfrog.us:42426/announce"

(though I didn't get any error on my BitComet)

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeHah
What were the additional scenes? I mean, did they add anything to the series?

All I saw were some comparisons screens of a few episodes like years ago.

There were a few extra scenes such as Asuka in a flashback, hanging out with (and making a pass on) Kaji on a boat before she arrived to Japan. I think the most crucial was showing the eye that's in Gendo's palm, and Unit-00 morphing into a giant Rei before exploding when she self-destructed. Since none of them were really explained, they didn't add that much to the actual story, but they were interesting details in the least. Certainly not worth re-buying the series, though.

I tried to find the website with the extra scenes listed, but I think it's been taken down by now.

Scarletdeath Sep 9, 2006 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwarky
I used
http://www.deadfrog.us/index.php?act=entry&id=6909

If you used the same one, the comments say:

"In case you get a "no host URL" type error, manually edit the tracker announce URL to point to http://tracker.deadfrog.us:42426/announce"

(though I didn't get any error on my BitComet)

I used utorrent, and it says invalid URL for the tracker. Even though it looks like it's not working, it'll still download just fine.

Soldier Sep 9, 2006 01:40 PM

I'll upload the soundtrack for you. Should be ready around half and hour or so.

EDIT: On second thought, more like 260 minutes. :/

FatsDomino Sep 9, 2006 01:42 PM

Yeah, it's dead for me too. I'll just wait for SOLDIER. Thanks. =)

map car man words telling me to do things Sep 9, 2006 02:02 PM

Did anyone actually attempt to change the tracker announce URL like it tells you to? =/

Lacerta Sep 9, 2006 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwarky
Did anyone actually attempt to change the tracker announce URL like it tells you to? =/

I did, and it worked just fine =[

FatsDomino Sep 9, 2006 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwarky
Did anyone actually attempt to change the tracker announce URL like it tells you to? =/

No, I r dumb. c:

Double Post:
lol i'm connected now

also music on deadfrog's website is awesome

sjcrik Sep 9, 2006 02:48 PM

ya i got the torrent working after changing the tracker announce url and it's almost finished =p

FatsDomino Sep 9, 2006 02:48 PM

http://music.deadfrog.us/ymck.swf =)))

Soldier Sep 9, 2006 03:27 PM

Well, I'll still have the rapidshare link ready when it finishes, although it's taking a bit longer than I thought (30% right now). I even stopped my torrent for Ace Combat 5 to free up bandwith. :edgartpg:

The soundtrack itself is decent enough, but it didn't have that Evangelion feel to it. Sure, it's stupid of me to expect a sweeping orchestra from a fan-made soundtrack, but it definetley could've used more romantic piano songs and the such.

Because when you get down to it, the whole Re-Take series is a romance doujin, and quite a fantastic one at that. Even for a fan-made work, this feels like an accurate portrayal of how things would have gone for Shinji and Asuka if he expressed his feelings before things got really bad in the series. The series wanted to focus on the kids' personal conflicts by the later half, but I always felt it would've been more effective to show what would happen if those young fools fell in love (you want controversy? try underage pregnancy).

I read the finale last night, and honestly, I came quite close to crying. The one part that really got to me was
Spoiler:
the scene where an older Shinji goes drinking with Misato, and imparts the knowledge and confidence that she once gave to him.
I thought the final part of the ending was a bit of a cop-out, even though it's something you'd expect from Evangelion. I really wish they just stuck with the previous ending scenario.

In the end, despite the pointless sex (with the exception of a couple of scenes, most of it was explicit just for the sake of it. Since when did Unit-05 have a penis to begin with?), and some hokey plot twists (a fistfight between two characters you'd never dream of; imagine that one South Park episode where the chinese singer signs up for The Contender, and you'll have the right idea), this was basically the way most fans of EVA wanted things to end; Shinji stands up to protect the people he loves, Gendoh gets his comupance, and Rei chooses her friends over her "father".

It's fanfiction, but it's also beautifully drawn, beautifully written fanfiction.

I'm with the majority who want Gainax to at least emulate some of this doujin for one of its upcoming movies. End of Evangelion did something bold with its unhappy ending and character assasination of Shinji, but I think people have been traumatized long enough, and it's about time Gainax showed the alternative.

As J. Johan Jameson once said in Ultimate Spiderman; "People want to read about a good guy and a bad guy."

map car man words telling me to do things Sep 9, 2006 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER
I thought the final part of the ending was a bit of a cop-out, even though it's something you'd expect from Evangelion. I really wish they just stuck with the previous ending scenario.

The ending had me confused quite a bit at first (especially the two "fake" endings), but then I remembered the whole deal with bandage Asuka and it made more sense.

Spoiler:
One thing I was confused about was the little girl at the end. For some reason I first wondered if it was the young Misato, having just survived Second Impact, but probably not. Either she's just a random survivor that the artist wanted to find the two kids, rather than just show them, or she has some other significance I'm not getting.

It doesn't really make that much sense for her to be there in the first place, if this is the Eva ending universe, though =/

Anyway, I didn't feel it was a copout at all. It's what it all came down to in the end, after all - (bandage) Asuka forgiving Shinji, and the two learning to let each other close again, as shown in the very last panel (and my current sig, usk lace).

I thought it was very sweeping, Shinji wanting his own happiness all his life, and then willing to give it up for Asuka (though that was his happiness in the first place). In effect, Re-Take was in the end about redoing the End of Evangelion for a slightly nicer Shinji + Asuka ending.

Lacerta Sep 9, 2006 03:59 PM

I still think that

Spoiler:
The little girl is their child that somehow managed to defy the laws of reality (hay this is Eva) and appear there >=0

Although it is more likely that it is just some random survivor that managed to stumble upon them, but a guy can dream =|~

Q stole my comment about the ending, much like how he stole my sig (USK Q)

Misogynyst Gynecologist Sep 9, 2006 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOLDIER
this was basically the way most fans of EVA wanted things to end

I disagree so adamently, I don't think I can find the right words to make a defense. I realize I'm in the minority but I've always found the original ending for EVA to be amongst the most satisfying of anything I've ever seen in television or film. As much as I liked "End Of EVA", it felt like a cheap retread of what is ultimately the greatest creative gift a writer could ever give his story - the ability to give it a three-dimensional ending by allowing the characters an evolution to free will - a level of expanding beyond the capacity of the writer. Almost as if he's playing up his ability to create beyond his reach. (Was it Calvin or Hobbes ((not the cartoon)) that told us that "God created Man and then left"? Theres something in EVA that is very similar to that idea.)

Friedrich Nietzsche would have a fucking field day with the basic transcendant idea that the original idea attempts to grip. The whole story of EVA has faint allusions to Thus Spoke Zarathustra, in that it destroys various minor Christian symbolism and then asks it's chief character to evolve past normal sensibilities that are normally moral standards put in place by our complex guilt/God issues which are generally the single foundation of Catholicism.

map car man words telling me to do things Sep 9, 2006 04:38 PM

I too was very satisfied with the TV ending, and actually preferred it over EoE.

That doesn't mean I mind seeing these alternative universe things like Girlfriend of Steel 2 and Ikari Shinji Raising Project. To say it's what all/most Eva fans wanted is a bit exaggerating, and most of the people who hated both the ending(s) as well as Shinji and thought he was nothing but a spineless piece of turd, weren't really fans of the series in the first place.

It does seem though a lot of people who liked the series (and a lot who didn't) felt confused or disappointed because of a lack of an ending that tells you what to think. Many of the more open endings seem to suffer from this.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Sep 9, 2006 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwarky
It does seem though a lot of people who liked the series (and a lot who didn't) felt confused or disappointed because of a lack of an ending that tells you what to think. Many of the more open endings seem to suffer from this.

To quote one of my favorite authors: "Tell people they're thinking, and they'll love you. Try and make them think and they'll hate you."

Soldier Sep 9, 2006 05:36 PM

Here's the Re-Take Soundtrack.

http://rapidshare.de/files/32553901/...track.rar.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lacerta
Spoiler:
The little girl is their child that somehow managed to defy the laws of reality (hay this is Eva) and appear there >=0

Although it is more likely that it is just some random survivor that managed to stumble upon them, but a guy can dream =|~

I considered that too, but...

Spoiler:
the problem is it doesn't resemble their child at all. For one thing, it looked like their baby was a boy, and it also liked looked like the hair was light and curly.

The other problem is that the child shown in the ending is years older than the baby, so it doesn't make much since why he/she would appear that way.

My guess is that's either the first reborn human (I believe EoE mentioned that humanity would be reborn, possibly all on its own without Shinji and Asuka playing the Adam and Eve role), or it's Wrath from Fullmetal Alchemist. >>


Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwarky
Spoiler:
I thought it was very sweeping, Shinji wanting his own happiness all his life, and then willing to give it up for Asuka (though that was his happiness in the first place). In effect, Re-Take was in the end about redoing the End of Evangelion for a slightly nicer Shinji + Asuka ending.

I aggree, but the first ending was so well done and moving, it felt depressing to return to the previous scenario (even if it's the "real" one).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwarky
To say it's what all/most Eva fans wanted is a bit exaggerating, and most of the people who hated both the ending(s) as well as Shinji and thought he was nothing but a spineless piece of turd, weren't really fans of the series in the first place.

It does seem though a lot of people who liked the series (and a lot who didn't) felt confused or disappointed because of a lack of an ending that tells you what to think. Many of the more open endings seem to suffer from this.

For a large majority of the series, I adored Shinji. I found him to be a fascinating character with real-world conflicts and needs, and I saw quite a bit of myself in him (and I'm sure most young teens did the same).

But by the End of Eva, I damn near hated him. The whole movie in general sent a negative message with Shinji by making him worse off at the end of the movie than he was at the beginning of the series. He literally threw away all the people who cared about him and helped him to grow as a person, and all for no real reason other than he was "vewy vewy sad".

Personally, I hate abrupt endings. I hated it in FFVII and I hated it here. There is a way to create a sense of ambiguity and make you think without making it look like the director yelled "CUT!" before the movie was over (in fact, it's rumored that Anno basically created the End as nothing more but a big "fuck you" to the legions of fans that pressured him to end the story).

Look at Lord of the Rings. The final story had about 5 endings, but it still left enough material for viewers to go back and draw their own conclusions. Endings like that will always be my preference, as it captures both a sense of closure as well as some ambiguity tossed in for further analysis. Endings like EVA and FFVII are just an excuse to get the fanfiction writers to come up with a scenario the original writers themselves couldn't think up. Seeing the scene I mentioned in my previous entry with Misato and Shinji had just as much weight and emotional response as anything from the End of Eva, except it also felt like a more natural, desirable ending. It doesn't HAVE to be weird or sad to be considered "deep", you know.

Shinji suffered plenty enough in the course of the series. It wouldn't have hurt to give him a semi-happy ending (which you could argue was the case with Asuka's supposed resurrection, but they didn't exactly get off to a good start).

SailorV Sep 9, 2006 09:58 PM

Sweet this is one of the first animes I ever watched =)Now if they bring back Sailor Moon !!!

FatsDomino Sep 10, 2006 12:53 AM

It's been done. Go watch Live Action Sailor Moon.

Double Post:
Oh and I finished Re-take. Wow that was really awesome. I wouldn't mind seeing Eva go in that direction but I'm sure anything they come up with will at least be entertaining.

MrSatan Sep 10, 2006 03:28 AM

is the live action series any good?

Soldier Sep 10, 2006 03:43 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLyPo5cuV8s

What do you think?

FatsDomino Sep 10, 2006 06:07 AM

Live Action Sailor Moon is alright. It has its moments. If you are a Sailor Moon fan you will probably get a kick out of it. Try out an episode or two if you are interested.

Kostaki Sep 10, 2006 09:51 AM

I finished RE-TAKE a few minutes ago as well and the first thing that entered my mind when I read the last page was "Yep, this is Evangelion alright." Just when you think things couldn't get any more twisted, the happy --> sad --> happy --> sad spirals continue.

lol

I guess I will await the new material with mixed feelings, wondering exactly how twisted they can make everything this time around considering the story pretty much yields infinite possibilities.

SouthJag Sep 10, 2006 11:16 AM

Ohohoho those live action Salior Moon clips are killers. I'm really impressed that Sailor Mars' actress was able to keep a straight face during that transformation scene. I couldn't do it -- but then, I wouldn't really be willing to spin around whilst putting on a female sailor's uniform.

MrSatan Sep 12, 2006 03:35 PM

i watched some clips from the tv show, got mixed feelings, hard to delete the image of sailor moon as anime.
anyway i think ill try at least a couple of eps.

Lazyguy Sep 12, 2006 04:23 PM

Evangelion was one of my first animes besides sailor moon and dragon ball z when the original toonami first started for those in ameriaca who know what it is but it would be awesome to see a prequel and see the first impact and what happened to Misato and everything. Cant wait for it to come and dont care what it costs.

MrSatan Sep 14, 2006 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazyguy
first impact and what happened to Misato and everything. Cant wait for it to come and dont care what it costs.

my feelings exactly, im intrested in the prequel more than the rest, i want to know more fact about first impact, and the researches, angels, adam, lilith, etc.:biggrin:

.Spartan Oct 1, 2006 06:27 PM

1 quick question to "Soldier", is it anyway possible for you to perhaps rehost the Eva-Retake Original Soundtrack on RapidShare just for awhile cause i started to read this 4 days ago and then i just found out about the soundtrack, i would really like to hear it plz, i already tried torrents and tried changing the tracker but i only got 1 seed... and downloading at 1kbps which would take me 99:99:99 lol so if its possible plz host it again or anyone else that might have the time to host it for me.

Double Post:
Ah... Nvm some ppl actually started to seed and i just finished the dl 7 mins ago... thx anyways. For anyone else that might want this, ill still seed for a couple of hours (just incase someone like me made the same mistake of learing of this awesome thing a bit to late)

aku Feb 21, 2007 08:57 AM

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EVA creator posts message in theatres across Japan, hopes to lure new audiences to Evangelion films
On February 17th, Shin Seiki Evangelion (Neon Genesis Evangelion) creator Anno Hideaki made a statement in the form of a movie poster that appeared in theatres all over Japan. The announcement was also posted on the new Evangelion movie and Yahoo! Japan portal sites for the film, which also launched on Friday.

A translation of the entire announcement is as follows:

Many different desires are motivating us to create the new "Evangelion" film.

The desire to portray my sincere feelings on film.
The desire to share, with an audience, the embodiment of image, the diversity of expressions, and the detailed portrayal of emotions that animation offers.
The desire to connect today's exhausted Japanese animation [industry] to the future.
The desire to fight the continuing trend of stagnation in anime.
The desire to support the strength of heart that exists in the world.

Finally, the desire to have these wishes be realized.

For these purposes, we used the best methods available to us to make another Evangelion film.
Many times we wondered, "It's a title that's more than 10 years old. Why now?"
"Eva is too old", we felt.
However, over the past 12 years, there has been no anime newer than Eva.

Specifically, among the stagnant mood of the present day, it is the portrayal of will - not technology - that is most important.
To support the fans that support animation, we felt that a work that would appeal to middle and high school-aged men, who quickly grow away from Anime, was necessary.
When we decided that we wanted to something to support the anime [industry] of today, the determination to return to this title was strong.

As the creator of this project, [I assure you that] a very new-feeling Evangelion world has beeen constructed.
For this purpose, we are not returning to our roots at Gainax. I have set up a production company and studio, and it is in this new setting that we will start again.
Without looking back, without admiration for the circumstances, we aim to walk towards the future.
Thankfully, we have gathered staff from the old series, new staff, and many other fantastic staff to work on this series.
We realize that we are creating something that will be better than the last series.

”Eva" is a story that repeats.
It is a story where the main character witnesses many horrors with his own eyes, but still tries to stand up again.
It is a story of will; a story of moving forward, if only just a little.
It is a story of fear, where someone who must face indefinite solitude fears reaching out to others, but still wants to try.
We hope that you look forward to the 4 new retellings of this story.

In closing, it is also our job to provide a service to our customers.
Although it seems obvious, we aim to create a form of entertainment that anyone can look forward to; one that people who have never seen Evangelion can easily adjust to, one that can engage audiences as a movie for theatres, and one that produces a new understanding of the world.

This fall, we hope you can join us.

Creator/General Director, Anno Hideaki

Source: AnimeAnime!
WELL WE HAVE AN UPDATE FINALY!
I'm still sceptical about the whole thing still, but i will still watch it

Mucknuggle Feb 21, 2007 11:35 AM

Sounds great. New NGE is fantastic news. Is the new film a retelling of the series or what?

bahamuty Feb 23, 2007 03:19 AM

What's new Evangelion movies without new merchandising!
Kotobukiya is making a new Eva 01 figure. It's 6feet tall, about $10,000 a pop.
Nice job they did on it. Even though nobody really needs an Eva statue that big.

Pics: http://ga.sbcr.jp/news/0702/078/index.html

Mucknuggle Feb 23, 2007 02:09 PM

News from AnimeNation

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According to Sponichi Annex, executive director Hideaki Anno has announced that the first new Evangelion movie will open in Japanese theaters on September 1st. Furthermore, for the new series of four movies, two of the katakana characters in the Japanese spelling of "Evangelion" will be changed, resulting in "Evangelion" becoming "Wevangeliwon." Reportedly, additional details and a 15 second theatrical trailer will be officially released on the 17th.

The article also states that the Evangelion franchise has generated 6,000 types of merchandise since its 1995 debut, earning roughly 150 billion yen.

SourceRakuga Kidou

FatsDomino Feb 23, 2007 02:46 PM

Yeah, that trailer is out now too. It's just a bunch of text with no footage from the movie at all. Perhaps a little information can be derived from it but it's pretty much worthless.

Soldier Feb 23, 2007 04:38 PM

In the Feb issue of Newtype USA, there was a four page article on the EVA movies. A few details were revealed regarding the project.

1. The first movie will re-enact the first episode of the series, with the climax being the 6th episode (Showdown in Tokyo-3. Shinji and Rei's first teamup).

2. The showdown is receiving a major overhaul, as Anno has expressed disastisfaction with how low budget the episode turned out.

3. The movie will make use of current CG technology, and is said to display a massive amount of detail in every frame, to the point that multiple viewings may be required, especially for the climax (just no more text flashing, ok?).

4. The NERV and Selee logos will be changed. The new NERV logo is a partially eaten apple, the Selee one is an apple and a serpent (zomg teh overtones).

5. There will be a new character introduced, but he/she may not show up until the 2nd movie.

6. There are two main promo posters; one is a cheerful rendering of the main cast and Shinji's classmates by Sadamoto, the other is a live action shot of Unit-01 standing above Tokyo-3. They say the movies' theme more closely resembles the first poster.

7. There are splash drawings in the article, though it's still unknown if they represent how the characters will look in the movie. It's a mixed bag so far, with Shinji and Asuka looking more angular and cartoony, while Rei and Kaworu have a rougher, darker look to them (I especially like how Rei looks).

That's about it so far. I'm still remaining cautiously optimistic, because I'm still hoping that A) they won't try to make it slapstick crazy just to appeal to the fanbase that likes to collect Asuka and Rei pillows, and B) they don't reuse any animation from the TV series at all, though that doesn't sound too likely.

The movies are being called a "fresh interpretation", so I'm also hoping they don't keep the remakes word by word exact. I'd be happy if it remained closer to the manga, if nothing else.

aku Feb 23, 2007 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOLDIER (Post 398631)
In the Feb issue of Newtype USA, there was a four page article on the EVA movies. A few details were revealed regarding the project.

1. The first movie will re-enact the first episode of the series, with the climax being the 6th episode (Showdown in Tokyo-3. Shinji and Rei's first teamup).

2. The showdown is receiving a major overhaul, as Anno has expressed disastisfaction with how low budget the episode turned out.

3. The movie will make use of current CG technology, and is said to display a massive amount of detail in every frame, to the point that multiple viewings may be required, especially for the climax (just no more text flashing, ok?).

4. The NERV and Selee logos will be changed. The new NERV logo is a partially eaten apple, the Selee one is an apple and a serpent (zomg teh overtones).

5. There will be a new character introduced, but he/she may not show up until the 2nd movie.

6. There are two main promo posters; one is a cheerful rendering of the main cast and Shinji's classmates by Sadamoto, the other is a live action shot of Unit-01 standing above Tokyo-3. They say the movies' theme more closely resembles the first poster.

7. There are splash drawings in the article, though it's still unknown if they represent how the characters will look in the movie. It's a mixed bag so far, with Shinji and Asuka looking more angular and cartoony, while Rei and Kaworu have a rougher, darker look to them (I especially like how Rei looks).

That's about it so far. I'm still remaining cautiously optimistic, because I'm still hoping that A) they won't try to make it slapstick crazy just to appeal to the fanbase that likes to collect Asuka and Rei pillows, and B) they don't reuse any animation from the TV series at all, though that doesn't sound too likely.

The movies are being called a "fresh interpretation", so I'm also hoping they don't keep the remakes word by word exact. I'd be happy if it remained closer to the manga, if nothing else.

Would ya mind scanning some of those pictures in so us poor people can see them to SOLDIER?

Mucknuggle Feb 23, 2007 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aku (Post 398825)
Would ya mind scanning some of those pictures in so us poor people can see them to SOLDIER?

I was just about to ask the same. I'm really curious to see the Rei picture. They better release all four films as a DVD boxed set. I'm definitely buying it if they do.

I'm not sure I like how they changed the logos for NERV and SEELE.

Anybody know the significance of the changed katakana in the title?

Soldier Feb 23, 2007 09:49 PM

I'll see what I can do. They're pretty big pictures (Newtype is a hefty magazine), so I'm not sure how they'll come out, but I'll give it a try.

EDIT: Here you go. They came out much better than I imagined.

FatsDomino Feb 24, 2007 01:14 AM

Well that was a hell of a lot more info than that trailer put out. Thanks a bunch, SOLDIER. =)

Twilight's Twin Feb 24, 2007 03:02 PM

Hmm. I agree to being cautiously optimistic. I just hope they don't change too much or dumb it down too much. I think this may end up being a great "alternate reality" version of the story.

But I can't help but wonder if this time and money wouldn't be better spent on something entirely new from Hideaki's head.

Soldier Apr 11, 2007 05:09 PM

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Official Title of New Evangelion Movie Revealed
The official Japanese Evangelion homepage has formally announced that the official title of the upcoming Evangelion movie is "Evangeliwon Shin Gekijouban: Jyo" ("Evangeliwon New Motion Picture: Prologue"). Famitsu Magazine has revealed the redesigned Nerv and Seele logos that will appear in the film. Advance tickets for the movie will go on sale in Japan on April 21st and advance ticket purchasers will recieve a bonus Nerv cel phone/keychain strap. The movie is scheduled to open on September 1st.

Source: Rakuga Kidou
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...9983_eva03.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...9983_eva04.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...983_evan01.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...9983_eva05.jpg

The movie title is lame, but the logos are pretty spiffy.

aku Apr 18, 2007 08:24 AM

Well, I don't exactly like the new Nerv art, but i do like the new SEELE art. The Original Nerv art was fine by me, and i liked the way the words where encircling the leaf. I'm still a bit gittery about these movies in general. I am still uncertain of how these movies will movies will turn out, but i still want to see them. Ill probably buy them weather i like them or not...just to have more Eva stuff

S_K Jul 10, 2007 06:20 PM

I apologize for the thread revival and the awful quality video but...

YouTube Video

It seems the new movies are just around the corner... September going by this :3:

Krelian Jul 14, 2007 10:52 AM

YouTube Video

EVANGELION:1.0 YOU ARE (NOT) ALONE / New Theater Edition: Preface - First of September.
EVANGELION:2.0 / New Theater Edition: Breaking Up - Sometime in 2008.
EVANGELION:3.0 / New Theater Edition: Rush - Unknown
EVANGELION:FINAL / New Theater Edition: ? - Unknown

Last two movies will be shown alongside each other.

Trigunnerz Jul 24, 2007 01:31 AM

NO! WHAT HAPPENED TO SINATRA?!

September 1st. But damn. I wonder what made them want to release 4 movies.

Krelian Sep 1, 2007 06:30 AM

So, uh, like, the first one came out today. I haven't heard anything, but a friend offers up the fact that he "heard it sucked".

Lacerta Sep 2, 2007 12:24 PM

The second movie will feature:

Spoiler:
Unit-02 all the way to Unit-06. With actual pilots in every single one.


They have also launched yet another Evangelion manga series, [Evangelion Gakuen Mokushiroko], this is also another alternate universe series (supposed to not have any Evas in it since Shinji and crew can kill angels without them).

The first movie was okay... people argued that none of the characters really look or act like the ones they "grew up with" since Shinji is no longer emo but is just very shy along with other characters having much more emphasis on certain personality types than what they normally had, and that the things changed (which was quite a bit -- I counted at least 30 things different from the original series) ruined their understanding of the series as a whole.

A lot of people said battles were similar to "the greatness that is Gurren-Lagann..." but I didn't even notice any similarities aside from both of them being nicely animated.

It's just something you accept and enjoy, fanboy/girl gush and love it regardless, or hate with every ounce of your being.

map car man words telling me to do things Sep 2, 2007 02:17 PM

Where'd you see it >=E

And is there any hot Shinji/Asuka action in there

chato Sep 2, 2007 04:30 PM

So it was only "ok" , huh? I still want to see it anyway. Eva is Eva and there is one side that says Shinji whines too much and the other says its all good. Who gives a shit. Stick around Tokyo Toshokan for a torrent sometime soon.

Krelian Sep 2, 2007 08:40 PM

Okay, I read some spoilers, about
Spoiler:
the colour of the ocean and what's on the moon

and I am resultantly pumped.

DO SUBS EXIST YET

Kaiten Sep 5, 2007 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krelian (Post 498642)
Okay, I read some spoilers, about
Spoiler:
the colour of the ocean and what's on the moon

and I am resultantly pumped.

DO SUBS EXIST YET

Screw subs, I'd settle for a raw; the only thing I have yet to find is a crappy fake version stuffed into a password protected zip file. The trailer looks so pretty that it makes the wait twice as bad :(

chato Sep 27, 2007 08:25 PM

Quote:

1st of New Evangelion Remakes Seen Over 1 Million Times
The publicity team for Evangelion: 1.0 You Are [Not] Alone, the first of four new Evangelion movie remakes, has announced in a blog entry that the movie has surpassed one million in attendance figures since it opened on September 1. The blog entry then encourages readers to see the movie a second or third time to make "new discoveries about Eva." Source: Saishin Anime Jōhō
Seeing that so many went to see the movie, I won't lose hope after all. Plus, the OST came out today. I'm impressed Sagisu still has it =]. great job.

EVA 1.0 OST!

Arucard Sep 30, 2007 04:42 PM

thx a lot for the eva ost pal

lovin angel of doom =D

makura Oct 1, 2007 01:21 AM

Thanks for the OST! It sounds amazing! I wonder how long it would take for them to put it on DVD (and some fansub group picking it up.)

Arucard Oct 1, 2007 11:20 AM

I'm hoping that by the end of the year we'll have a dvd of it or even better a blu-ray release =D then in a few days we'll have ourselves a nice fansubbed eva =D

Trigunnerz Oct 13, 2007 10:02 PM

Hmm. It's been like a month since the movie has been released, and I can't find any subs on either boxtorrents.com or baka-updates.com. Help?

Bigblah Oct 16, 2007 12:25 PM

The DVD isn't out yet, so no rips. We might have to wait till next year for that =/

ctu Nov 1, 2007 04:51 PM

This is taking forever. I still can't believe there are no cam rips of the movie or anything like that already out :(

RABicle Nov 1, 2007 08:53 PM

While the spoilers that Lacerta mentioned do excite me somewhat, why is NGE still around? Comon, the tv series finished what like a decade ago? Their apocalyptic prophecies for the year 2000 failed to materialise, making the whole thing more ficticious and fantasy than ever before.

The story is over, we all know what happend. So why do they continue to make more of this?

Bradylama Nov 1, 2007 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RABicle (Post 525556)
Their apocalyptic prophecies for the year 2000 failed to materialise, making the whole thing more ficticious and fantasy than ever before.

Are you somehow implying then, that Terminator 2 isn't as awesome because Skynet hasn't become self-aware? :mad:

not that I care about Eva

RABicle Nov 1, 2007 09:42 PM

Ahh but we averted judgement day! We destroyed the whatever chip and halted the creation of skynet.

And it's not like they keep making more Terminator stuff.

Bradylama Nov 1, 2007 09:45 PM

Actually they have, but we shouldn't talk about it. :(

horseman85 Apr 27, 2008 01:41 PM

The first movie has finally been released onto the Internet.

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=17064 (SD)
http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=17141 (HD)

Vemp Apr 28, 2008 03:55 AM

thanks horseman, grabbing it now.

map car man words telling me to do things Apr 28, 2008 04:37 AM

Is that from a proper raw or that fansubbed handcam footage?

FatsDomino Apr 28, 2008 06:02 AM

Q, they are dvd releases.

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=17064

I tried the high-def fansubbed torrent but noone is seeding that anymore. I'm currently seeding with the standard-def fansub above along with almost two thousand other people.

map car man words telling me to do things Apr 28, 2008 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 599733)
Q, they are dvd releases.

Very nice. Must try getting that tonight. I saw a bit of one fansub at our anime club, but it was made on a handycam version, which basically made me bobofrown and refuse to watch it.

Not that I would have wanted to watch Eva there anyway.

S_K Apr 28, 2008 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrelEN (Post 471383)

Fixed due to the now dead link for any late people viewing this, also much appreciated with the link sharing guys, this is the only Anime I've been looking forward to for some time :)

Zukan Apr 28, 2008 12:36 PM

That HD version is upscaled I've heard. Don't think I have the patience to wait for a native HD release so I'll settle with this one anyway, thanks for the links.

map car man words telling me to do things Apr 28, 2008 01:58 PM

I just watched it and it was.. well.. interesting. Not as different from the original beginning as I'd have hoped, but even if it had been just the first three episodes with massive production values, that would have been entertaining enough.

That's basically what this was for now, with a number of little changes. We'll only know from the following movies just how much there is in this one. Many of the new little details range from trivial to wonderful oshiiiiii moments.

If anything, the visual quality is far beyond anything I've seen from Gainax so far and that alone merits a watch. For now, it's "more of the same" and while I guess that can be slightly disappointing for anyone expecting a revelation, I myself am more than anxious to see how it all comes together in the later movies and just how much has been changed. The preview at the end sure hints at great things to come. Including Asuka~

S_K Apr 28, 2008 02:16 PM

Just finished watching and I was impressed for the most part. If you want to see how far anime production standards have come in terms of presentation just compare the 6th angel battle in both this and the original, but then again the original series had budget issues too so I'm not sure if that comparison is totally fair.

Spoiler:
They seemed to put more effort this time into making Tokyo 3 look more like a living breathing city. Unless my memory's mistaken there was always something about the original that seemed too focused on the key players to give a full atmosphere, whereas this time around we get periodic reminders apart from just scenes in the school and the train that it's a major city and possibly the world at stake here.

Bearing in mind I've never read the Mangas, two major things I disagreed with was revealing Kaworu and Lilith so early in the plot, not to mention Misato knew nothing about Lilith in the original until she started doubting Nerves intentions and investigated, which I think would have been a great way to end the 2nd movie. Now that I think about it most of the plot was revealed through Misato's point of view in the original, so how are they going to reveal other parts of the plot now? Not to mention what role will Kaji play that gets him shot or if he does at all for that matter.

I'm trying to avoid going into how deep NGE is as a story, but all in all, those major plot changes just seemed more like fanservice for people who know the plot already rather then effective storytelling.

kainlightwind May 4, 2008 08:10 PM

Any subs available that can be upped here?

Additional Spam:
Okay so. Got some subs. Decent. Whatever. It was good.

Spoiler:
I gotta say, it was good to watch. The angel battles in particular although I was really hoping they do something different with the scenes. Not the same sort of rehash of animation from the series. I really did like Ramiel battle. That was defenitely a good trasition and use of cg with its attacks. And the way it blew the shit out of the mountain side was so damn cool. The animation of the characters seemed like no different from the series. Although the city itself was great. Odd to see it so alive with the segemtns of Shinji walking the streets and sleeping out like a bum. And...why was I treated with 14 year old tits? God. Damn Japanese. Anyway. Good stuff. Can't wait for the second one.

Penis Overflow Jun 15, 2008 04:24 AM

Is there any news of ADV Films, Manga Video, or some other anime company picking up the rights to dub and release these movies in the United States? I'm a fan of Evangelion and this looks interesting, but I'd rather wait for an official release rather than see a fansub or whatnot.

S_K Jun 15, 2008 06:30 AM

Given the average speed english dubs for animes are done in, they probably won't even touch this until all the movies are finished + about another year if not more. All in all I would say you have a long wait ahead sane brain...

Krelian Oct 20, 2008 05:05 PM

Bump. Second film's called "Evangelion: 2.0 You Can (Not) Advance". Early summer 2009.

chato Oct 20, 2008 05:37 PM

Um.. kool. For a second there, I was hoping the movie came out ;p Can't wait to see it, though. I'm interested to see that new female character.

AmericanTranny Jan 12, 2009 07:09 PM

To S_K:
I get the feeling the movies are going to both speed the plot up but also change it. After all, why tell the same story the exact same way? It would be redundant. A few changes here and there to change the overall plot seems like a good thing to me.

Cirno Jul 7, 2009 03:05 AM

Last 25 minutes of a certain recently released film.

It's funny, but the movies are actually making me like the franchise. The new character Mari is pretty bad-ass, but she's stepping on Asuka's toes. The video above is spoiler-ish, so I don't recommend watching it unless you don't give a shit.

While this is technically a retelling of the original series, the movies are doing their own thing. This is made absolutely clear in You Can Not Advance, the sequel to 1.0.


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