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Peter Mar 7, 2006 06:09 AM

.Hack//Roots
 
Remember Hack? A series of anime, manga and games telling the story of a MMORPG gone wrong. You probably thought that the story was wrapped up nicely, but turns out your wrong. The World is again in danger, and it'll all be revealed in a new installment to the Hack universe with .Hack//Roots!



The story

Not much is known yet, but it seems like the World has been reset after the events in the first Hack series. A new server was set up, and players could once again emerge themselves in the World R:2. As with the previous series, the story is tied with the upcoming .Hack//GU game (see upcoming thread in RPg forum). Like the original, the anime is basically a prequel to the game. We follow Haseo, a player killer (someone who only plays the game to kill the other gamers for fun), when he was a member of the Twilight Brigade. What will happen, or what kind of a character he is is unknown as of this moment.



The Characters:
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5503/haseo5op.jpg

Haseo, the main character, a PK

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7751/ovan8zj.jpg

Ovan, a man who seems to know more about the WORLD

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5526/shino9zh.jpg

Shino, a young girl who seems to follow the mysterious Tri-Edge?

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8107/tabby9jh.jpg

Tabby, another sidekick



Practical Information
  • 26 Episodes
  • Starts Airing April 5th
  • Opening theme: "Silly-Go-Round" - FictionJunction YUUKA (Yuki Kajiura!)
  • Ending theme: "Boukoku Kakusei Catharsis" - Ali Project


Torrents:
Coming soon!

aku Mar 7, 2006 10:02 AM

This takes place serveral years after teh events in .hack//DUSK , after another huge upagrade to "The World"
OH, these are the guys from .hack//GU, coolness. Haseo is also known as "The Terror of Death" Shino is known as "The Miracle of Deceit" Ovan is also Known as "The Rebirth"... If what i get out of the trailers is correct they are all PKK, Player Killer Killers. well at least Haseo is, he goes around trying to find the strongest players to beat them, just like you said. That is what brings him to meeting Tri-Edge(guy that looks almost exactly like Kite or Shuugo for those that didnt play the game) which is where the game starts i believe....
IDK, just some input, im looking foward to this though

JazzFlight Mar 7, 2006 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Enkidu

Um.
Gross.
Her tail is like, coming out the top of her back or something.

These designs are at least better than the ones for the game (Haseo has some kind of spike fetish there), but I dunno... .hack//SIGN was a borefest.

Kamui Mar 7, 2006 10:10 AM

Agree. I had to force myself till the last episode and still didn't why it made the damn serie was so popular.

Couldn't stand the whiny hero (seen whinier in NGE and that was still good!)

aku Mar 7, 2006 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JazzFlight
Um.
Gross.
Her tail is like, coming out the top of her back or something.

These designs are at least better than the ones for the game (Haseo has some kind of spike fetish there), but I dunno... .hack//SIGN was a borefest.

No, thats just armer that he adorns when he is kicking ass. :p...that is very close to the same charater design as the game
http://twilighteye.free.fr/news_gu.jpg
...however...on the tail comign out of her...neck...i will agree its kinda odd...

iamamoogle Mar 7, 2006 08:43 PM

I'm looking forward to this. Just another potentially good anime to start downloading come April, heh. The character designs look cool too. I just take it that Tabby's hair is in a pony tail that kind of swoops out like a cat's tail. Maybe the cat ears are some sort of item or hack (I doubt it, but its possible).

I enjoyed .hack//SIGN, it may have been slow moving, but I didn't dislike anything about it... I'd just have to say that "The World" has a lot of down time, heh. I can see how it would be harder to rewatch it though... and .hack//Legend of Twilight (DUSK) was alright, but the manga equivalent was way better.

I guess its time I finish the games and read my A.I. Buster novels...

Synthesis Mar 7, 2006 09:38 PM

Wow, a catgirl type player, I didn't see that one coming.

It looks interesting enough to at least check out. I sense more songs by Yuki Kajiura and See-Saw.

xen0phobia Mar 7, 2006 10:20 PM

I'll check it out! .hack//sign was the first anime i ever watched and thus it hold a special place with me. I listened to the music so much and this was what got me into anime music. I'll definitely be checking out the new season.

jouhou Mar 7, 2006 10:26 PM

well, it's good to see that the art won't be chibi like //lot which I didn't like much. I much prefer //sign and //liminality

soulsteelgray Mar 7, 2006 10:51 PM

One tiny nitpick... Shino's actually super important.

Anyways, I'm looking forward to .hack//Roots. The character designs don't really seem to fit the image presented in .hack//G.U.+ or the games, but I guess the plot matters more than the designs.

UltimaIchijouji Mar 7, 2006 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Synthesis
Wow, a catgirl type player, I didn't see that one coming.

Are you serious? You didn't see that coming? I found it pretty obvious, and to be blunt, really cliche.

As long as Kajiura does the music, I'll be happy. I've accepted .hack for having only decent plots since I played that game four times. Project .hack was pretty interesting while it lasted, though.

Synthesis Mar 7, 2006 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultima
Are you serious? You didn't see that coming? I found it pretty obvious, and to be blunt, really cliche.



Wow, sarcasm, you definitely didn't see that coming.

haha

I see Kajiura being credited for //Roots Op single. Her role seems solidified.

Dekoa Mar 7, 2006 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by xen0phobia
I'll check it out! .hack//sign was the first anime i ever watched and thus it hold a special place with me. I listened to the music so much and this was what got me into anime music. I'll definitely be checking out the new season.


Same Here, It's kinda what got me into anime music and anime itself. It's actually because of .hack//SIGN that I got into Hikaru No GO, Naruto, Cardcaptors, and a mutlitude of others.

I remember so many good times with the Legend of the Twilight Bracelet and others. I still like the manga better on Dusk but what can you do.

coeccias Mar 8, 2006 01:06 AM

As for Tabby, I don't think that's a tail but rather a continuation of the hair on her head. The angle makes it look somewhat misleading.

Peter Mar 8, 2006 05:49 AM

Sa-Kun: I found out from when I was making the thead for the game, it's changed in the above post (is it known that sh'll be important in the anime, or will she only pair up with Tri-Edge in the game?).

soulsteelgray Mar 8, 2006 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Enkidu
Sa-Kun: I found out from when I was making the thead for the game, it's changed in the above post (is it known that sh'll be important in the anime, or will she only pair up with Tri-Edge in the game?).

She doesn't follow Tri-Edge, persay.

I guess I have no choice but to spoiler tag the following, even though it's in the end of the first chapter of G.U.+. It's quite possibly the ending of Roots, though, so spoiler tagging is the way to go.

Spoiler:
Her importance is that she's a good friend of Haseo's--perhaps even more than a friend--and that she gets Data Drained by Tri-Edge, leaving the player herself in a coma.

larxene Mar 9, 2006 06:27 PM

I liked the .hack//sign. So I'm hoping this one will be good. Shino's outfit is cool. And like all the other people said Tabby's tail is weird. What's the thing on Ovan's arm?

Synthesis Mar 9, 2006 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by larxene
What's the thing on Ovan's arm?


Most likely a heavy-arms type of weapon.

soulsteelgray Mar 9, 2006 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larxene
What's the thing on Ovan's arm?

We, um, don't know. They haven't said much other than it's a seal or something to that effect on his arm.

soulsteelgray Mar 11, 2006 08:52 PM

TV Tokyo's official site for the series has opened, but there's nothing to see at the moment. I guess we'll just file the URL away for a later date.

Synthesis Mar 12, 2006 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soulsteelgray
We, um, don't know. They haven't said much other than it's a seal or something to that effect on his arm.



A seal that holds back a heavy-arms type of weapon.

nazpyro Mar 13, 2006 12:00 PM

Ohh, sweet. I've been a fan of the series since its inception. It's the only complete anime series that I've actually put money into, buying all the DVDs, video games, and mangas. I'll be looking forward to the roots.

LivingDreams Mar 13, 2006 12:42 PM

Ok this shit is gonna be extended like Dragonball z and Gundamn wings w/e. They gonna keep making newer and newer series every year. I like the first series tho, but then they had some other shit, and the damn games that they keep making.

soulsteelgray Mar 13, 2006 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LivingDreams
Ok this shit is gonna be extended like Dragonball z and Gundamn wings w/e. They gonna keep making newer and newer series every year. I like the first series tho, but then they had some other shit, and the damn games that they keep making.

Wow. You obviously missed the memo when the whole concept behind .hack was announced.

.hack was always meant to be a large multimedia franchise. From the outset, there were four branches: .hack//SIGN (anime), .hack (games), .hack//Liminality (OVA), and .hack//UdeDen (manga). As time went on, additional branches and media forms were added.

So you see, .hack thrives upon different storylines. .hack itself focuses primarily upon Morgana and the ramifications of Aura's birth, but .hack//G.U. deals with what happens years after Aura's birth and the (apparent) effects of the creation of The World R:2.

evergreen Mar 15, 2006 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JazzFlight
but I dunno... .hack//SIGN was a borefest.

I agree. Not even worth accepting as a gift. How many actually engaging fights were there in the game again? Balmung shows up for an episode or something and it's supposed to redeem the otherwise boring World? I will never understand the hype around it. Yuki Kaijura's score for it wasn't too hot either.

Inhert Mar 15, 2006 02:47 AM

the problem is that .hack//sign wasn't about the fight or an action anime...

Conan-the-3rd Mar 15, 2006 02:51 AM

Thats strange, I was under the impression that .hack//GU would be anohter multi-media series like .hack//Infection was.

Instead of the same stroy over the media.

evergreen Mar 16, 2006 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inhert
the problem is that .hack//sign wasn't about the fight or an action anime...

I guess it emulated the MMORPG feel quite well then.

Himetsu Mar 16, 2006 02:09 PM

I've been watching titles done by Bee Train recently. (Noir, Madlax, Liebe, .Hack//SIGN)

And I hope .Hack//Roots will be improved over the original series. .Hack//SIGN wasn't my cup of tea but it won't hurt to check this out.

Yume Mar 16, 2006 02:56 PM

Having enjoyed the .hack//sign series grealty, I am really looking forward to this new series since the release of the last series from the .hack world, .hack/Legend of the Twilight.

The use of a PK as a main character is interesting as this series might actually introduce more fight scenes when compared with .hack//sign, only a handful of fight scenes throughout the entire series. I'm not complaining about the lack of action in the last series but with the world they were in it was hard not to expect some level of action.

I have high hopes for the series after playing the games which added to the already awesome storyline.

Synthesis Mar 16, 2006 02:56 PM

It's becoming commonplace between .hack fans to be similar to those, "Don't watch the movie, the book is so much better". Now it's, "Don't watch the anime, the game is so much better" or vice-versa.

Conan-the-3rd Mar 27, 2006 01:53 AM

Which reminds me, AI buster (the book), readable?

aku Mar 27, 2006 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Conan-the-3rd
Which reminds me, AI buster (the book), readable?

Yes, i found the first one, and what i have read of the 2nd one sitting at the store for 15 mins good. And from the reviews i have read of them, they are well translated(not that i could tell with my bad grammer and such) :p. But i have picked them both up, and they have been enjoyable!

Conan-the-3rd Mar 27, 2006 11:31 AM

Shoot, Just went and got myself Boogiepop and others (My Local Comicbook store rocks somthing dumb, geting somthing that's a Borders US excuslive 4 moths early than the "And others" Release date.)

soulsteelgray Mar 27, 2006 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conan-the-3rd
Shoot, Just went and got myself Boogiepop and others (My Local Comicbook store rocks somthing dumb, geting somthing that's a Borders US excuslive 4 moths early than the "And others" Release date.)

I highly recommend Boogiepop and Others over .hack//AI buster in this instance because AI buster's translation was dreadful. Tokyopop didn't pay attention to any standardized English terms at all, so AI buster (and AI buster2, and probably Another Birth) has some wacky terms that will make readers scratch their heads.

Not to mention the huge mistake they made with a character's gender in AI buster. Oopsie, Tokyopop, might want to go back and research what you're translating.

The Plane Is A Tiger Mar 27, 2006 07:29 PM

Damn, there's more than one novel out already? Now I have to track it down during my Kingdom Hearts 2/Harvest Moon shopping run on Thursday. ;___;

For some reason, I've loved all things .Hack so far except for the .Hack//Key of the Twilight anime. Near the middle it turned away from what the manga did and was pretty awful. .Hack//Sign was interesting to me since I was more curious about the plot rather than hoping for tons of action. AI Buster was okay for a quick read, but Tokyopop did seem to make it a bit confusing on the main character's gender.

Like Conan-the-3rd said, it's surprising that .Hack//Roots seems to pretty much mirror the game rather than add a different story to it. I hope it becomes certain as to whether or not that's the case soon, since I'd rather not spoil the game by watching the anime first.

soulsteelgray Mar 27, 2006 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tritoch
For some reason, I've loved all things .Hack so far except for the .Hack//Key of the Twilight anime. Near the middle it turned away from what the manga did and was pretty awful. .Hack//Sign was interesting to me since I was more curious about the plot rather than hoping for tons of action. AI Buster was okay for a quick read, but Tokyopop did seem to make it a bit confusing on the main character's gender.

Like Conan-the-3rd said, it's surprising that .Hack//Roots seems to pretty much mirror the game rather than add a different story to it. I hope it becomes certain as to whether or not that's the case soon, since I'd rather not spoil the game by watching the anime first.

The character I'm referring to with the gender confusion is Albireo's/Watarai's assistant at CC Corp., the one who's referred to as a male in the translation. That character is actually Shibayama Saki, otherwise known as Kamui.

.hack//Roots doesn't mirror the games. That's G.U.+, the manga adaptation of the games. Roots merely precedes the game.

The Plane Is A Tiger Mar 27, 2006 07:56 PM

Ah yeah, I remember being confused when they started saying Kamui was a male all of a sudden.

Good to know about the anime. I can steer clear of the manga easily enough until I finish G.U.

MrSatan Mar 27, 2006 08:05 PM

BTW when is supposed to be released this series?
is it already being licensed by any company?

aku Mar 27, 2006 10:52 PM

TRAILER!
TRAILER!!!
havent watched it yet, but im dling it!

soulsteelgray Mar 27, 2006 11:08 PM

Ahh, there's not much to say about it. If the song playing in the background is Silly-Go-Round, well, it sounds weird and not at all fitting to the atmosphere G.U. is trying to create. I doubt it is, though, since it doesn't sound like a typical Yuki Kajiura composition. Maybe it's Boukoku Kakusei Catharsis?

aku Mar 27, 2006 11:12 PM

-_-;; i know i couldnt expect greatness out of a 9mb clip...but still shows some of the animation and probly the opening theme...meh...i still wana see more...and i want the audio from the trailer where he meets Tri-edge(the game trailer)!!! I WANT IT NOW...if anybody knows where i can get it, point me in the directions :D

The Plane Is A Tiger Mar 27, 2006 11:27 PM

Um, I have a translated version of the game trailer if that's what you mean.

As short as the clip was, I still like what I see for the animation.

MrSatan Mar 28, 2006 01:39 AM

Tritoch, where i can find the trailer?

The Plane Is A Tiger Mar 28, 2006 01:53 AM

The game trailers can all be found right here. I think the TGS Subtitled one is the translated trailer.

MrSatan Mar 28, 2006 02:29 AM

thanx dude ill check it tomorrow

aku Mar 28, 2006 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tritoch
Um, I have a translated version of the game trailer if that's what you mean.

As short as the clip was, I still like what I see for the animation.

No, I just want the audio for the trailer(with out the speaking) i have the trailers :)

Conan-the-3rd Mar 29, 2006 08:47 AM

Hutta, I absoutley have all hope that Beetrain won't make this feck boring like //sign

Rain Sun Moon Mar 29, 2006 03:29 PM

A few chapters of the manga have been translated by some people already. I didn't like .hack//sign or the other 1 gajillion sequels either, but the manga was actually pretty entertaining. I think they finally hit a good balance between storyline and action, but I could be wrong since it's too early in the manga to tell... I remember how badass the first episode of .hack//sign was... only to hope for a glimmer of it's greatness throughout the other 25 episodes that I sat myself through.

aku Apr 5, 2006 09:25 PM

The first episode aired today!...but it doesnt appear that anybody has picked it up as of yet, im sure some one will, some one was kind enough to cut the op out, and make a torrent...meh
http://datorrents.com/download.asp?i...ng.avi.torrent
the full raw episode 1280X720
http://datorrents.com/download.asp?i...29.mkv.torrent

soulsteelgray Apr 8, 2006 04:46 PM

I've only watched the OP, ED, and various random parts of the episode. So far, I'm not so sure where the series is going; the OP is not what I expected, especially not with the bright colors and the overly poppy song. The ED was okay, I guess, but whatever happened to the "edgier" image that G.U. was trying to push?

jouhou Apr 8, 2006 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inhert
the problem is that .hack//sign wasn't about the fight or an action anime...

my friend gave up after the first episode and said she didn't like it because the main character was so emo.

jouhou May 3, 2006 08:08 PM

ok, since this thread hasn't been touched for a month i guess no one really likes it.
the beginning is slow like in //sign
i'm going to stop watching it but the last picture on the ending credits looks awesome so i'll pick up the show much later on.

The Plane Is A Tiger May 3, 2006 08:26 PM

Er, it's more that I never thought to post in the thread again. I'm really liking Roots so far. It's not nearly as slow moving as Sign was in the beginning, and the characters are much more interesting. Hopefully Tri-Edge and Haseo's evil form will make appearances around the mid-point of the series rather than just the end.

The end of ep. 4 did make me laugh pretty hard though:
Spoiler:
The news that Tabby has been PKed was just delivered WAY too dramatically. I mean, she couldn't have been that high of a level at that point, and they already made it quite clear how common player killing is in The World. Besides, it's not like there are any horrible penalties incurred by dying. Yet the news is still met with a shocked gasp!

Foshi May 3, 2006 11:11 PM

It's not a horrible show. I have watched the first four episodes and plan on watching the rest. Only real problem with it is that it is too slow in starting out. Hopefully, this show will avoid some major pitfalls. I don't want Haseo to have some stupid reason to why he is "special."

soulsteelgray May 3, 2006 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Foshi
I don't want Haseo to have some stupid reason to why he is "special."

If anything, it's probably the Avatar "power" he possesses.

soulsteelgray May 6, 2006 05:21 PM

I've caught up with the series to episode 5. So far, I'm not really sure where the series is going and how it's going to tie into the games. It's pretty dull so far, save for some references to the previous games that didn't go unnoticed. (Oh noes, Haseo is suspected of being a double agent for TaN!)

C'mon, put in some actual plot already.

soulsteelgray May 13, 2006 01:14 PM

Triple posting? Wow. This is new.

Nothing really happened in episode 6 other than the slightest hint that Tri-Edge's out and about. The preview for episode 7 makes it seem like we're finally going to meet Tri-Edge, so that's something to look forward to.

Summonmaster May 14, 2006 10:23 PM

I do like Hack Roots...at least I thought I did. I finally decided to try out watching a season of a Hack anime, and after the initial excitement about finally getting into the concept of "The World", I also felt how slow the series is going.
It took 6 episodes for Haseo to finally show some concern apart from all the apathy he tossed around for the first 5 episodes! It's drilled into my head now that:
Shino = mysterious
Ovan = THE mysterious
Tabby = annoying cat-girl
Ender = psycho PK bitch
Haseo = apathetic emo
etc.

I still want to follow it though. The quality is way too good to drop, but I keep having to check whether my bsplayer or wmp will play them, due to something weird LuPerry's/Za Warudo's subtitles not showing up for me depending on the player.

The Plane Is A Tiger May 15, 2006 08:45 AM

I've had plenty of trouble with LuPerry's releases too. Several of them tried to play as glitchy audio files in WMP, so I had to use VLC instead. In VLC the subtitles don't show up unless I click the option for them, and then they overlap the OP and ED lyrics. I plan to redownload all of the episodes once Shinsen catches up fully.

Summonmaster May 15, 2006 11:27 AM

Ooh good thing Shinsen's picking this up too! I'm just scared that there will be hardly any seeds since they're playing the catch-up game. For now, I'll have to watch for ZaWarudo's releases just to be safe, and download LuPerry's and hope they work in WMP :(
Perhaps it's a special codec or something, I dunno. It looks fine, apart from the no subtitles sometimes.

Peter May 15, 2006 11:38 AM

Luperry's subs work fine for me in zoomplayer, so maybe you want to check that out, since they are a lot better than shnsen for hack, imo.

The Plane Is A Tiger May 15, 2006 11:43 AM

Shinsen's doing worse than LuPerry? Hard to believe considering all the problems I've had getting LuPerry's subs to work, let alone all of the grammatical errors. I haven't seen any of Shinsen's .Hack subs yet though.

Peter May 15, 2006 01:11 PM

It just depends on the player that you use. Since I'm used to using zoomplayer, I haven't really had any issues. As for subs, It's just a personal dislike of Shinsen.

soulsteelgray May 15, 2006 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Summonmaster
I do like Hack Roots...at least I thought I did. I finally decided to try out watching a season of a Hack anime, and after the initial excitement about finally getting into the concept of "The World", I also felt how slow the series is going.

I feel like it's going at an even slower pace than .hack//SIGN was. I mean, honestly. Just get on with it already so those looking forward to the game will get the backstory they need.

I was never a huge fan of Shinsen in the first place. Za Waarudo seems to be doing a good job with keeping terms intact (i.e. @HOME) and displaying some general knowledge of the franchise, so I'm sticking with them.

EDIT: This is what I wish someone would do to Haseo. He's so aloof that I want to knock some sense into him.

The Plane Is A Tiger May 15, 2006 06:16 PM

Okay, this is going to sound really stupid, but how do you get ZW's torrents to work? When I try to click the link or right click+Save As I always just get a page of garbled gibberish. I downloaded the first episode from them somehow but I haven't been able to figure out how to do it again.

I've been okay with Roots' pace until this last episode. The beginning shot of just everyone sitting around lasted for like 3-4 minutes, and at the end they were charging towards each other and yelling for a very long time for such a short distance.

soulsteelgray May 15, 2006 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SILBER-1
Okay, this is going to sound really stupid, but how do you get ZW's torrents to work? When I try to click the link or right click+Save As I always just get a page of garbled gibberish. I downloaded the first episode from them somehow but I haven't been able to figure out how to do it again.

I use the torrent listings from Tokyo Toshokan.

The Plane Is A Tiger May 15, 2006 08:22 PM

That's where I get my torrents from as well. When I click ZW's links I just get a page of gibberish though, and when I try to Save As it only shows up as a text file containing the same gibberish.

soulsteelgray May 15, 2006 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SILBER-1
That's where I get my torrents from as well. When I click ZW's links I just get a page of gibberish though, and when I try to Save As it only shows up as a text file containing the same gibberish.

So http://www.ggkthx.org/torrents/Roots06h.torrent gives you nothing?

The Plane Is A Tiger May 15, 2006 08:45 PM

Nope, nothing but a page of gibberish or saved as a text file filled with the same gibberish.

Summonmaster May 15, 2006 09:06 PM

I use Anime-Source to get the torrents and there's no garbled gibberish there. You shouldn't have to right click -> "save as" too.

The other silly part about episode 6 was when Ender was running towards Sakisata and Haseo who were also running. Did you even count how long it took to zoom in on each character? That was a blatantly silly attempt to not have to redraw at least 10 seconds of footage...no emotional pause for justification in that scene!

The Plane Is A Tiger May 15, 2006 09:16 PM

Yeah, I usually don't right click -> Save As. I'm just mentioning that I've tried it since that's usually the first suggestion people make.

That running scene was just hilarious after awhile. It went on for about 3 times the length it should have, and when Haseo and Sakisata were shown their faces never changed at all. Same with Ender, but it was more obvious with them. Such a terrible way to avoid showing more content and being lazy.

soulsteelgray May 15, 2006 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SILBER-1
Yeah, I usually don't right click -> Save As. I'm just mentioning that I've tried it since that's usually the first suggestion people make.

Since you're getting "gibberish" files, try Save As, and then saving it as a .torrent file.

The Plane Is A Tiger May 15, 2006 09:34 PM

Huh, what do you know. It worked. I thought I had already tried adding .torrent to the file name, but I guess not! Thanks, now I can watch the much better ZW subs.

Yume May 16, 2006 05:08 PM

After watching episode 5 I was looking forward to episode 6, but, alas, my computer now doesn't want to play the episode 6 in sound. This is after all the time I spent working to get .mkv files working in the first place.

The episode was subbed by the ZW group. What I don't understand is why many of the subbing groups use .mkv files to distribute their files.

Curse you .mkv files for spoiling my fun!

On the plus side, I've had time on watching the old .hack//sign series and I just can't wait for this series to finish so that I can watch it all in one giant .hack marathon during a weekend.

While not many people agree on the subject that Tabby is a worth while character, I reckon Tabby will play an important role later on in the series.

Keym May 16, 2006 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SILBER-1
and at the end they were charging towards each other and yelling for a very long time for such a short distance.

That part was hilarious.

It's almost like the show is one big excuse to show off how pretty their backgrounds can be along with the awesome soundtrack. Wish they would make it a series with less episodes so it doesn't go as slow as it's been. =\

On the other hand, we had the first sign of THE COMING OF TRI-EDGE. It was badass. I hope Tri-Edge is badass anyway.

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Originally Posted by Yume
While not many people agree on the subject that Tabby is a worth while character, I reckon Tabby will play an important role later on in the series.

I bet everything I have that she'll be one of Tri-Edge's victims along with her "master" since they don't show up in the game (as far as I know).

Ovain May 18, 2006 09:54 AM

wait a minute..... why does Tri-Edge look like Kite or Shugo?.... is it like a remnace of them?.....

soulsteelgray May 18, 2006 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ovain
wait a minute..... why does Tri-Edge look like Kite or Shugo?.... is it like a remnace of them?.....

No idea, but according to chapter 2 of .hack//G.U.+, Tri-Edge is an AIDA (Artificial Intelligent Data Anomaly), which is "an illegal entity that violates the system rules."

The Plane Is A Tiger May 18, 2006 05:10 PM

Is the manga seperate, a retelling of Roots, or a retelling of the new game? I've heard all of those from different sources so far.

soulsteelgray May 18, 2006 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SILBER-1
Is the manga seperate, a retelling of Roots, or a retelling of the new game? I've heard all of those from different sources so far.

It's an adaptation of the games. Exactly how far it plans to go with the story remains to be seen; despite the fact that Vol.1 Rebirth is out in Japan now, there's been very little information on it on the interenet.

soulsteelgray May 24, 2006 04:39 PM

Episode 7 was not nearly as boring as episode 6, but there were still some pointless moments in the episode (Haseo staring at that gigantic floating statue forever is not exciting).

Tri-Edge, however, does seem to be making his mark in The World R:2, so things are finally looking up for the series.

soulsteelgray Jun 5, 2006 07:52 PM

I'm probably beating a dead horse here, but on with the show!

Episode 9:
Okay, the first thing the episode does is show us Tri-Edge "materializing" in a Lost Ground. That looks promising, but then everything's forgotten in favor of the whole Virus Cores + Lost Ground = ZOMG THE KEY OF THE TWILIGHT ordeal. The episode actually makes up for some of the lack of viable substance in earlier episodes with its inclusion of action (gasp!) and the promise of plot advancement.

TaN's really starting to get on my nerves. What the hell is up with Naobi and will Tawaraya stop being so annoying? Don't get me started on Ender. She's just plain annoying.

I'm not quite sure where the rest of the series is heading if they're "so close to the Key of the Twilight." Are we going to see Shino do her color switch soon? Is she going to be attacked by Tri-Edge?

Eh, I wouldn't be too upset if .hack//Roots turns out to be only thirteen episodes long.

Foshi Jun 5, 2006 08:30 PM

I really don't know why i'm still watching this series. So many reasons not too; boring episodes with little story advancement, no action, weak characters, story i've heard a million times before. I've yet to watch episode 9, but if it is still boring and it ends without anything really happening i'm going to stop watching this series. Time is precious to me and this series just seems to be wasting it.

soulsteelgray Jun 5, 2006 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Foshi
I really don't know why i'm still watching this series. So many reasons not too; boring episodes with little story advancement, no action, weak characters, story i've heard a million times before. I've yet to watch episode 9, but if it is still boring and it ends without anything really happening i'm going to stop watching this series. Time is precious to me and this series just seems to be wasting it.

My only drive to finish the series at the moment is the desire to know the events that lead up to volume 1 of the G.U. games. Otherwise, it's a piss-poor series that's got a flawed plot structure and a slowly agitating soundtrack.

Summonmaster Jun 5, 2006 10:39 PM

Yeah, I'm just watching it now so that I'll have knowledge if anyone brings it up in a discussion. They really are moving at a snail's pace.

Too much scenes like:
-cut to <insert random main character here> stares off into space, attempting some kind of vague symbolism
-drawn out discussion between <TaN member> and <Twilight Brigade member>
and my favourite overused scene:
Spoiler:
-Ender trying to kill/stalking <Twilight Brigade member/Haseo>


I get that Ovan is mysterious already.
I get that Haseo is emo already.
I get that Ender is a sadistic bitch already.
I get that Tabby is the standard annoying-as-hell cat girl.
I get that Sakisata's the "cool, I don't care" guy.
I get that Shino's the mysterious girl.

We just see these character's roles over and over again as they're forced upon us. Nine episodes, and they're still searching!

Keym Jun 6, 2006 12:33 AM

Come on! You can't deny Tri-Edge doesn't look cool in those 0.5 seconds he's shown in each episode! Totally worth watching for, right? Right?

Bets 0.5 seconds ever, by the way.

soulsteelgray Jun 17, 2006 02:20 PM

Wow. Something actually happened.

Episode 10:
People who are not very receptive to lengthy scenes with lots of explanatory dialogue probably won't like this episode very much, but I found it to be especially intriguing. Ovan didn't find the Key of the Twilight after all, but now I'm curious as to TaN's whole little deal with the sys admins.

Ovan's peculiarites shouldn't come as a surprise to those who know about what goes on in the games, but all the same, what happened to the player? Shino said she couldn't get in touch with him, but does she live close enough to him to visit?

If you take out the stupidly long scene of Shino and Haseo staring at each other at the waterfall, then this was, quite surprisingly, a decent episode.

Demon Arashi Jun 18, 2006 06:07 PM

I can't wait for the day I see .hack//ROOTS, simply because I'm a .HACK fan 'til death!

Keym Jun 19, 2006 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by soulsteelgray
Wow. Something actually happened.

Yes. TRI-EDGE SHOWED UP IN THE LAST FIVE SECONDS!! ... And no one noticed him, even though he was 2 feet above everyone else on the street.

Seriously, what's the deal. Stop teasing us with glimpses of Tri-Edge.

I also wonder what happened to the player Ovan, but... he's just probably busy trying to break free.

soulsteelgray Jun 20, 2006 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Keym
Yes. TRI-EDGE SHOWED UP IN THE LAST FIVE SECONDS!! ... And no one noticed him, even though he was 2 feet above everyone else on the street.

Seriously, what's the deal. Stop teasing us with glimpses of Tri-Edge.

Er, what?:
The episode ended with the scene of Naobi and Ender talking and Ovan groaning. The scene before that was of Gord and Haseo talking.

Keym Jun 20, 2006 09:04 PM

Oh, episode 10. It sounded like episode 11 to me (which is out by the way). Guess all the episodes look alike to me by now.

soulsteelgray Jun 24, 2006 01:03 PM

Episodes 11 and 12:
Sakisaka's starting to annoy me with his whole "OVAN GRR EVIL KEY-STEALING BASTARD" act. The Tri-Edge glimpse at the end of 11 seemed forced, almost like they were trying to say, "Hey, folks! Don't forget about this Tri-Edge fellow!"

Episode 12 finally brought some answers to questions that've been on many fans' minds. I'm just really confused about Yata and Pai now, though. I mean, they were so bitchy and mean as Naobi and Ender, and then they team up with Haseo in the games? What?

Shino finally got her color set changed! YES! Her hair's still pink, though.

Keym Jun 24, 2006 11:55 PM

So Shino went from emo to goth? Works for me. She looks cooler in black.

soulsteelgray Jun 30, 2006 11:32 AM

Episode 13:
Well. The shit's hit the fan now.

I thought that Shino wouldn't get PKed by Tri-Edge until the end of the series, but now I'm just completely lost as to where the series is going. Okay, sure, the rest of Roots will probably show Haseo getting stronger and all that stuff, but then where's the light at the end of the tunnel?

Good stuff, episode 13 is. It certainly makes up for the crappiness of the earlier episodes.

Keym Jun 30, 2006 06:30 PM

Episode 13 definitely rocked. Although, I'm getting such a LOST vibe with all the questions and more questions about the show as the episodes go by.

Spoiler:
So... it turns out Tabby liked Shino? As in, liked liked? Huh. Good twist.. that it was hinted at before, but I thought it was silly subtext.

Tri-Edge! Finally getting some action! YAY. I didn't know Shino got DD/PKed in the show, took me by surprise. Guess now I know what makes Haseo change until the games start. Speaking of Tri-Edge, what was he doing before that scene? Was he fixing the intarweb? Or just using come code to call Shino?


Either way, I'm hoping that things will pick up now after what happened. Wonder if they'll change the opening now with all the character changes.

soulsteelgray Jun 30, 2006 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Keym
Spoiler:
Speaking of Tri-Edge, what was he doing before that scene? Was he fixing the intarweb? Or just using come code to call Shino?


Either way, I'm hoping that things will pick up now after what happened. Wonder if they'll change the opening now with all the character changes.

Spoiler:
Looks to me like he was fixing whatever minor error there was with The World.


I don't think they'll change the opening. They're just lazy, that's all. 'course, I'll be surprised if they do.

Keym Jun 30, 2006 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by soulsteelgray
Spoiler:
Looks to me like he was fixing whatever minor error there was with The World.

Spoiler:
Does that mean that Tri-Edge is just a program that protects The World in some way then? Makes sense considering he has Kite's image. In fact, if this is the case, I think the games will be like the first .Hack games and the Epitaph, but reversed. The "good" guys will play The Wave (all the main characters are named after the phases) while the "bad" guys (Tri-Edge and... company?) will play the Twilight Dragon or whatever was the hero in the Epitaph.

Uh oh, then the player's main objective in the games will be to destroy The World so it doesn't hurt anyone else ever again. :(

soulsteelgray Jun 30, 2006 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Keym
Spoiler:
Does that mean that Tri-Edge is just a program that protects The World in some way then? Makes sense considering he has Kite's image. In fact, if this is the case, I think the games will be like the first .Hack games and the Epitaph, but reversed. The "good" guys will play The Wave (all the main characters are named after the phases) while the "bad" guys (Tri-Edge and... company?) will play the Twilight Dragon or whatever was the hero in the Epitaph.

Uh oh, then the player's main objective in the games will be to destroy The World so it doesn't hurt anyone else ever again. :(

Spoiler:
Or it could be that Tri-Edge sees PKing as a way to "fix" The World. I think that'd make things very, very interesting.

Keym Jun 30, 2006 10:34 PM

Spoiler:
I wonder why we bother to use Spoiler tags, it's just us talking in here.

Anyway, what you said could work. Maybe he's trying to purge The World of all foreign data.

The Plane Is A Tiger Jul 1, 2006 02:41 AM

I'm actually glad you've been using spoiler tags, since I checked this thread for any non-spoiler info while I was three episodes behind for various reasons.
Spoiler:
Okay, so it's only because a friend got me hooked on Lost and I couldn't stop watching that.

Anyway, it's very nice to see things finally happening! It's interesting seeing Pai and Yata being Ovan's captors, since they're party members in the game too. I'm guessing as of right now Ovan won't be too thrilled seeing them again. Also nifty watching Haseo already start to earn his title of being a PKK. Loved how he made the guy slice his own partner.

Pretty much my only disappointment was that Tri-Edge used his daggers to kill Shino rather than Data Drain. I was really hoping to see some Data Drain action. The question is if Shino and Atori (in the game) are the same people or just copy character models like with Blackrose and Mimiru. One of the chains at the cathedral altar rusted after Shino was sliced, and those 8 chains represented each of the 8 Waves before, so that sorta hints that they're the same person.

I honestly wouldn't doubt it if we get a new OP after this episode. It's exactly halfway through the series, as of right now over half the characters in the opening are banned/quit The World, and we all know the show is more concerned with appearance than actual story development at times.

soulsteelgray Jul 1, 2006 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tritoch
Spoiler:
The question is if Shino and Atori (in the game) are the same people or just copy character models like with Blackrose and Mimiru. One of the chains at the cathedral altar rusted after Shino was sliced, and those 8 chains represented each of the 8 Waves before, so that sorta hints that they're the same person.

Spoiler:
I can confirm without a doubt that Shino and Atoli are two different people. It's kind of hard to play a game as a different character when you're in a coma.

The Plane Is A Tiger Jul 1, 2006 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by soulsteelgray
Spoiler:
I can confirm without a doubt that Shino and Atoli are two different people. It's kind of hard to play a game as a different character when you're in a coma.

Spoiler:
Oh, okay. I've tried my hardest to avoid G.U. spoilers past the trailers and basic info, and last I heard about Shino/Atoli was something about Tri-Edge data draining her but she still played as an ally to Tri-Edge. It would have fit with the Mirage of Deceit title, but it didn't make a whole lot of sense otherwise.

Xellos Jul 2, 2006 11:21 AM

Hey guys, question, what's the best fansub group that does this anime? I've seen a couple of episodes, but most groups don't seem to be at episode 13 yet.

soulsteelgray Jul 2, 2006 04:52 PM

I've been following nothing but za-warudo's subs this whole time because they were the first ones on the scene with the HD subs and I hate switching groups in the middle of a series unless absolutely necessary. They've had some translation problems ("Key of Twilight"? How can you miss the "the"?) but they seem to be fairly accurate. (They also get a plus for knowing that it's "@Home.")

The Plane Is A Tiger Jul 3, 2006 04:12 PM

Za-Warudo's subs seem to be the best so far. I've downloaded mostly LuPerry's subs, but that's only because they seem to be first most weeks. LuPerry's subs tend to have a lot of grammatical mistakes and sometimes my WMP refuses to play their releases.

Demon Arashi Jul 3, 2006 10:38 PM

I miss having some form of tv signal so I could watch .HACK

Daggertail Jul 6, 2006 11:26 AM

Someone know?
 
Does somebody know what is the name of the song that is playing in episode 11 when the cat talks to guy with glasses?

soulsteelgray Jul 6, 2006 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Daggertail
Does somebody know what is the name of the song that is playing in episode 11 when the cat talks to guy with glasses?

You mean at the end of the episode with Tabby and Sakisaka? It's track 16 off of the OST, dwindled bible.

Demon Arashi Jul 6, 2006 08:05 PM

Dangz, I wanna get the OSTs of every .HACK show...And the game and OVA OSTs as well

Daggertail Jul 7, 2006 12:29 PM

What about in .hack//LIMINALITY when Minase founds out who the guy is.in episode 1.

soulsteelgray Jul 7, 2006 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Daggertail
What about in .hack//LIMINALITY when Minase founds out who the guy is.in episode 1.

It sounds to me like it might be liminality #full version. I'm not exactly sure. It's not liminality #1, I can tell that much. Ah, why not just download liminality #1, liminality #2, liminality #3, and liminality #full version? I just can't tell which version it is.

Daggertail Jul 7, 2006 12:59 PM

Why so many liminality versions?

soulsteelgray Jul 7, 2006 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Daggertail
Why so many liminality versions?

They all have different arrangements, that's all. It's like each version is for a particular "mood."

Keym Jul 8, 2006 10:57 PM

Episode 14 is out. Lazy bastards didn't change the opening, unsurprisingly.

Summonmaster Jul 8, 2006 11:03 PM

How about the song where the girl is singing (sounds like more ALI project vocals). The catch is it wasn't God Diva, National Catharsis, or Silly Go Round. It played during the big group battle at the Lost Grounds one time, and maybe one time apart from that. I don't recall hearing it on the OST, but then again I haven't listened to much other than "friendly like in a childhood".

soulsteelgray Jul 9, 2006 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Summonmaster
How about the song where the girl is singing (sounds like more ALI project vocals). The catch is it wasn't God Diva, National Catharsis, or Silly Go Round. It played during the big group battle at the Lost Grounds one time, and maybe one time apart from that. I don't recall hearing it on the OST, but then again I haven't listened to much other than "friendly like in a childhood".

Perhaps it was Suigetsu Kyouka? It was released as a B-side on the Boukoku Kakusei Catharsis single.

EDIT: Scratch that. Suigetsu Kyouka is definitely not a fight-y song. The only songs on the OST that have lyrics by ALI PROJECT that haven't been mentioned already are In The World, Hakua Byoutou, and Junkyousha no Yubi.

Daggertail Jul 9, 2006 05:10 AM

By the way does someone know the osts will be released in europe?
Especialy in finland?

soulsteelgray Jul 9, 2006 02:26 PM

Episode 14:
Pai and Yata interest me. They interest me a lot. And how about that new character that Pai's interacting with? I wonder who it is. My initial impression was that it was Tawaraya, but eh.

And finally, after 13 episodes, Tri-Edge's name is said. What bugs me is where the name came from. It just seemed to come out of nowhere. I'm just going to assume that Haseo read the name on the BBS and that's why he didn't ask Phyllo who Tri-Edge was.

And how about episode 15? Kuhn appears. They might as well show Endrance, Sakubo, and Atoli while the series is at it.

Keym Jul 9, 2006 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by soulsteelgray
Episode 14:
And finally, after 13 episodes, Tri-Edge's name is said. What bugs me is where the name came from. It just seemed to come out of nowhere. I'm just going to assume that Haseo read the name on the BBS and that's why he didn't ask Phyllo who Tri-Edge was.

Spoiler:
Yeah, they pretty much said the rumor was already on the BBS. And I suppose he was named after his three-slices mark he leaves behind.

That new character: Subaru/Tsukasa? She made the same "hi" hand gesture as they did when they met each other offline. Either way, it could be some old character, seeing as how she was talking about what the old version was like.

soulsteelgray Jul 9, 2006 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Keym
Spoiler:
That new character: Subaru/Tsukasa? She made the same "hi" hand gesture as they did when they met each other offline. Either way, it could be some old character, seeing as how she was talking about what the old version was like.

Spoiler:
Saburou (三郎) doesn't connect to either Subaru (昴) or Tsukasa (司). I also don't see how An and Mariko could have some sort of connection to Pai's player, especially when you take into account Pai's motivation.

Keym Jul 9, 2006 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by soulsteelgray
Spoiler:
Saburou (三郎) doesn't connect to either Subaru (昴) or Tsukasa (司). I also don't see how An and Mariko could have some sort of connection to Pai's player, especially when you take into account Pai's motivation.

Spoiler:
No, I'm not talking about the name. I know it's not the same. Doesn't matter. I only meant the way she greeted Pai. You can't tell me they didn't show that on purpose.

The Plane Is A Tiger Jul 9, 2006 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Keym
Spoiler:
No, I'm not talking about the name. I know it's not the same. Doesn't matter. I only meant the way she greeted Pai. You can't tell me they didn't show that on purpose.

Spoiler:
I thought the same thing. Her name immediately caught my attention, and it would certainly be interesting for an old character to make a return in Roots. Sadly, it's probably just one of the TaN guys since he/she had to borrow a character body and the leader of TaN was in league with Pai and Yata already.

soulsteelgray Jul 9, 2006 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Keym
Spoiler:
No, I'm not talking about the name. I know it's not the same. Doesn't matter. I only meant the way she greeted Pai. You can't tell me they didn't show that on purpose.

Spoiler:
I think it was just coincidence. I mean, holding up a hand is holding up a hand.

soulsteelgray Jul 16, 2006 12:53 PM

Episode 15:
You know, I like this episode for two reasons:

1. Kuhn is in it, even if his role is slightly pointless
2. Haseo is not in it

It's great to take a break from Haseo being emo. Honestly, sometimes I can't stand him.

The entire episode seemed like a filler episode. I'm not entirely sure why they didn't just slap in a recap episode and leave it at that. Maybe they thought that Tabby needed some more character development.

As mentioned above, Kuhn didn't really do anything. He was just kind of there as fanservice.

Episode 16 appears to get back in the swing of things with more emo!Haseo and investigating by Pai and Yata.

The Plane Is A Tiger Jul 16, 2006 04:03 PM

There was one thing that I really liked about this episode, despite it being total filler.
Spoiler:
Phyllo making fun of the main characters to Kuhn, particularly Haseo, for always being emo and standing around doing nothing once something happens to them. That was just great, and makes me like Phyllo a lot more than I did before.

At least Tabby is becoming more and more bearable too. She's gone from the annoying bimbo who you want to thwack every time she opens her mouth to a decent character.

soulsteelgray Jul 22, 2006 12:59 PM

Episode 16:
Haseo is quickly becoming one of the worst protagonists I've ever encountered. Someone needs to slap him and then bury him in the ground.

Episode 16 didn't really do anything monumental. Okay, so Pai and Yata're thinking of looking into researching Tabby to see if she's "special" and Saburou might end up being Tawaraya after all. Oh, and let's not forget how Phyllo survived his encounter with Tri-Edge. How positively exciting.[/sarcasm]

Haseo, please, get those two swords out of your ass.

DarknessTear Jul 22, 2006 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by soulsteelgray
Episode 16:
Haseo is quickly becoming one of the worst protagonists I've ever encountered. Someone needs to slap him and then bury him in the ground.

Episode 16 didn't really do anything monumental. Okay, so Pai and Yata're thinking of looking into researching Tabby to see if she's "special" and Saburou might end up being Tawaraya after all. Oh, and let's not forget how Phyllo survived his encounter with Tri-Edge. How positively exciting.[/sarcasm]

Haseo, please, get those two swords out of your ass.

Spoiler:
They're not swords. Too small! Anyway, he is starting to get emo. I hate it when characters do that, unless it's an improvement on their character (Roan from RO anime). And he's probably gonna stay that way for the rest of the season, considering how he is in the G.U. trailers.

Xellos Jul 22, 2006 10:40 PM

I've been wondering about something. In episode 14

Spoiler:
When Pai and Saburou are talking, she/he mentions a event with those limited edition guys at some forest, and if TaN was involved in that. Are they talking about Rena and Shugo? If so how is that possible? Isn't that from the previous version of the world? From what I understand this one is completely different.

soulsteelgray Jul 22, 2006 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Xellos
I've been wondering about something. In episode 14

Spoiler:
When Pai and Saburou are talking, she/he mentions a event with those limited edition guys at some forest, and if TaN was involved in that. Are they talking about Rena and Shugo? If so how is that possible? Isn't that from the previous version of the world? From what I understand this one is completely different.

Spoiler:
Nope. What they're talking about has nothing to do with Rena and Shugo. Either what they said means nothing in the long run or we're going to see very soon what they mean.

Xellos Jul 28, 2006 11:51 AM

Spoiler:
Hmm...That guy with the mustache, who appearently is called Taihaku, he sounded like bear, so I looked it up, and it is indeed the same voice actor, this could just be a coincidence, or it means something. What do you think?

Like hack//sign this PC is also mature, so I think it could just be true. But other then the looks and voice I don't know anything about the guy

Vexe Jul 28, 2006 01:56 PM

Hm, while watching episode 16, I've noticed something interesting...

Spoiler:
There's a rumor spreading that whoever manages to get through the Painful Forest (or whatever the name is) will get really strong, or something like that. Now, I think that Haseo will manage to get through it. And I think that he will get that strange armor which he has in the .hack//GU intro and in the ending to .hack//ROOTs, making him really fast and strong. And fixing his emo-problem partially. I hope Haseo doesn't stay emo throughout episodes 17-26 too...

soulsteelgray Jul 28, 2006 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vexe
Hm, while watching episode 16, I've noticed something interesting...

Spoiler:
There's a rumor spreading that whoever manages to get through the Painful Forest (or whatever the name is) will get really strong, or something like that. Now, I think that Haseo will manage to get through it. And I think that he will get that strange armor which he has in the .hack//GU intro and in the ending to .hack//ROOTs, making him really fast and strong. And fixing his emo-problem partially. I hope Haseo doesn't stay emo throughout episodes 17-26 too...

Spoiler:
It seems like a bit of a strange thing for Haseo to go directly from his 1st form to his 3rd form. But whatever, I guess.

Haseo's emoness is never going to go away. He gets even worse in the games when he PKs anything that moves. Ugh. I really can't stand him anymore.


Episode 17:
How about that Ovan and Tri-Edge fight, huh? They didn't show us how Ovan beat Tri-Edge, which was kind of a cop-out, I think.

Episode 17 wasn't as bad as the other post-episode 13 episodes, but I still felt a sense of incompleteness. The semi-discussion about Aura was definitely pretty interesting.

B4-Hunter Aug 11, 2006 01:29 PM

I'm stuck with 7 episodes released by [Shinsen-Subs], anyone know good release that I can re download or watch from episode 8th? Another question is, is Roots worth watching or I can just give up this one and get back to many other series I'm currently watching?

soulsteelgray Aug 11, 2006 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by B4-Hunter
I'm stuck with 7 episodes released by [Shinsen-Subs], anyone know good release that I can re download or watch from episode 8th? Another question is, is Roots worth watching or I can just give up this one and get back to many other series I'm currently watching?

I watch za-warudo's subs. They've done a decent job thus far, I suppose you could say.

For me, I personally think that the series loses steam after episode 13. I'm just truckin' along with the series to get the full backstory--however boring it may be--before playing the games.

B4-Hunter Aug 12, 2006 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by soulsteelgray
I watch za-warudo's subs. They've done a decent job thus far, I suppose you could say.

For me, I personally think that the series loses steam after episode 13. I'm just truckin' along with the series to get the full backstory--however boring it may be--before playing the games.

Then I'll just wait for Shinsen to release the rest, and if not My friend will get it when someone release full 26 episodes. Thanks for info.

Vexe Aug 14, 2006 10:01 AM

Well, episode 18...

Spoiler:
And just like I thought, Haseo recieved the armor he had during the .hack//G.U. intro.

And that big thing asking Haseo...it was talking about its daughter...Aura? Could this be Aura's father, the creator of The World version-1? And which sword did it talk about? And how the hell did Haseo recieve that armor, if he was rejected by that thing?

Oh well, I guess all the next episodes will be about Haseo getting more and more emo, gaining hate towards PKers and turning into a famous PKK...

Xellos Aug 21, 2006 07:54 AM

Hmm episode 19.

Spoiler:
Touta is Tawaraya. Then who the hell is Saburou? I also thought it might have been Tawaraya since he/she seemed to know a lot about TaN and ender.

The Plane Is A Tiger Oct 13, 2006 05:21 PM

Since the show is over now, I suppose I'll revive this thread for impressions.

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Wow, this was a badly paced show. There were so many things, especially towards the end, that should have been fleshed out. Instead, we got a lot of useless scenes and many, many unnecessary slow camera pans. What was with that scene of Haseo and Silver Knight in ep. 26? That just came out of nowhere and added absolutely nothing. Not to mention that as far as continuity goes, Silver Knight was banned and had his character deleted in .Hack//Key of the Twilight.

The final episodes focused way too much on Tabby as well. The Paw Squad? Having Hideo refer to her as "mama" and Haseo as "papa"? That poor guy must have absolutely no self-respect. I liked how ZW even put in a note at one point saying something like "Yes Tabby, you've been wondering that for the past 8 episodes. Please just die already."

Phyllo's death just seemed random and unnecessary too, aside from getting rid of him before the game. I suppose it sort of explains why he just sat there on the bridge all the time, but you'd think someone about to die would prefer to stare at the actual sunset outside his window.

It was a decent series overall, but it could have been condensed down into 13 episodes pretty easily. It was frustrating how they kept us waiting for action, and then when a huge fight did happen it continually cut away to people talking about it. The best example of this being when Haseo slaughtered 100 PKers, but it focused mostly on the Paw Squad talking about how horrible it was, Phyllo and Tawaraya talking about how the ambush might be happening already, and the moon as we hear the screams of the PKers. Even the fight with Tri-Edge in the cathedral looks lame in comparison to the same scene in the .Hack//GU trailer.

Unlike .Hack//Sign, which I loved, Roots was a little hard to finish with its dragging style.

mlkrepublic Nov 17, 2006 02:06 AM

i wonder if there are more ppl who like Roots or if there are more who don't like roots. i think it's absolutely horrible. i'm only half way thru the series and i'm having a hard time watching the episodes in their entireties. after ovan disappears, the whole story just goes disarray. i'm actually quite glad when Shino dies coz she's annoying as hell. don't u just hate characters who don't speak their minds? she's always like "it's nothing", "it's nothing you should worry about", "hmm...mmm...hmmm." omg... and Haseo is a freak. and i thought the guy in SIGN was annoying... (although SIGN is still the best .hack so far imo). these characters are not enjoyable at all. and i wonder if the animator changed to someone else starting from ep. 16... haseo's eyes just look very different. or is he turning evil or something... well i'll see.

The Plane Is A Tiger Nov 17, 2006 02:12 AM

Yeah, Haseo in Roots is an emo loser. He's a far better character in GU, thankfully. It doesn't sound like the American dub of Roots even uses the same VAs as GU does, which is really strange since usually they're very good about keeping the same VAs between .Hacks during localization. I guess they just slapped Roots together because they know how much it sucks. Hell, Cartoon Network premiered (and may continue airing it) at 5am Saturday night.


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