Transformers Movie (07-04-07)
 

Well, now that the movie has finally been given an official green-light, I thought it would be a good idea to create a thread for the upcoming movie.

The movie is currently still in pre-production, and will reputedly begin filming in May 2006. It is to be based on the G1 characters and concepts, but with a couple of changes (e.g. there will thankfully be no mass-shifting... so Megatron will be a tank, rather than a pissy little handgun :p )

The director for this movie is Michael Bay (The Rock, Bad Boys, The Island, etc). Spielberg is the executive producer, with other producers including Don Murphy (From Hell, LXG, the upcoming movie "Shoot 'Em Up"), Tom DeSanto (X-men 1 & 2), Lorenzo DiBonaventura (Constantine), and Ian Bryce as Line Producer. Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci are responsible for the current script drafts.

The original voice actors for Optimus Prime (Cullen) and Megatron (Welker) are being considered to reprise their roles if they are able to meet the quality needed for the movie (Murphy and DeSanto are for the original VAs, Lorenzo is against... pretty much everything. However, the final decision rests with Bay).

The final character line-up hasn't been revealed yet. However, thus far it looks like it will include:

• Autobots: Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Bumblebee, Jazz, (plus one more autobot to replace the thankfully axed Acree :p.... We think the replacement may be Ironhide)
• Decepticons: (Still to be officially announced) Megatron, Starscream, and 3 other cons (whose names are being kept secret with "placeholder" names until closer to the release date).
• Squishies/Humans: Spike (Shia La Beouf), Spike's dad, Mikaela (Spike's love interest -- Played by Megan Fox *drools*), Secretary of Defence (Jon Voight), Female Data Analyst (Rachel Taylor), Various Soldier Roles (one of whom is played by Tyrese Gibson). (I can't remember the rest of the actors involved off the top of my head ^^; Will have to do another update later)

The most notable aspect of this movie's development is that fans the amount of direct contact that fans have had with the people working on this film. Most notably is Don Murphy's website, where he and other members of the production team (including Ian Bryce and Robert Orci) directly interact with fans, and keep them regularly updated. Michael Bay has also interacted with fans on his website, although to a lesser degree.

For more information, the following links may be helpful:

• Running Summary of Movie Status
• Don Murphy's forums (where regular Sunday post updates are made)
• Michael Bay's Website
• Official Website (but bugger-all's been happening there at the moment :p )

Sounds good, some good names behind this and Bay's last movie "The Island" was really cool so I expect something good here. Although I'm not a Transformers fan so i don't have the automatic hate most fans probally will have =]

God I hope they don't find some way to make this movie suck. The original Transformers animated movie was absolutely awesome in every way. However with the recent releases these days, I do have my doubts. =/

Still, I'll probably see it even if it turns out to be bad, heh.

Grimlock, goddamn them. It better be Grimlock.

I'm very much excited for this (as well as optimistic that it will end up a quality movie). I'm still wondering what they'll do about Soundwave, since they've stated many times that he won't be an 80's boombox (can't they just say he scanned off a player that purposely has that retro design)? He's still my favorite Decepticon of all time, so I'm really hoping they don't mess up his look.

As if fans ever gave a crap about any human other than Spike and his dad. And I don't think they had a very big fanbase to begin with.

And wasn't Ravage one of Soundwave's casetticons (the dog)? Why should he count as one of the main Decepticons? Where are the other casetticons for that matter?

When I opened this thread and saw there was 3 replies I just knew there was at least one post with something along the lines of "I hope this doesn't suck" or "I hope they dont make this suck" and I was right! Every movies anticipation thread has one!

Onto the movie, I recall hearing about this off and on over the years and I am fucking grateful they are doing it based on G1. I was so happy when I heard about the PS2 video game...then pissed that it was based off the crappy new generation of transformers. Energon, Armada and anything else can all go to hell. It really depends on how they approach this though...if its based on the g1...they must realize the larger portion of their fanbase is going to be ages 20-30...and should make it somewhat mature. I dont want to see Bumblebee end up being the hero that saves the day...to be realistic..Bumblebee should get shot up and die. For a really dramatic effect, have him get shot up and then fall on Spike...LOL:megaman:

There's actually been speculation that it might be either Ironhide or Wheeljack. If they do have Grimlock and the dinobots, it'll probably have to be in a sequel (they're planning three movies at the moment, with Unicron a possibility in the third).

As for Soundwave, they were originally planning on making him a helicopter, but I'm not quite sure if that is still the case (Robert Orci came online and posted that he wouldn't be a helicopter, but we weren't quite sure if he was for real, or just joking around ^^; ... probably/hopefully he was being serious :p ). Regardless though, I think they intend to still have Soundwave being a central unit for "cassetticons" (or whatever they end up being in the movie), with him being able to deploy and then recall them. Personally, I was actually suprised that Ravage was named instead of Laserbeak. Oh well

Activision have signed on and said that they will be doing the video game for the new G1-based movie ^o^ Sure, it most probably won't have all the Transformers from the cartoon G1 series... but at least Optimus Prime will be a good-ol Flatnosed/Cab-over truck ;);)

Of course it will be a Sony PSP using the UMDs in place of cassettes.

Sigh.

You know this is going to suck. Suck hard. Harder than you'd expect for them digging up a cartoon originally from the 1980s as a nostaglia thing for GenX.

And then they had to go and add Michael Bay. Has he EVER made a good movie? Shit, at least Paul Verhoeven made Soldaat van Oranje - Michael Bay's given us nothing but complete fucking crap.

After "The Island," I'm surprised Michael Bay is even directing anymore. Losing $100 million has to have some kind of consequence.

Two questions: first, what sort of movie is this going to be? The linked sites at the top seema little fuzzy on this. CGI? CGI + actors? Perhaps even some sort of cel-based animation (porbably not, but a man can dream)?

Second, who's set to score it? The augurs at IMDB have little to say, the above sites even less. Vince DiCola could probably use the work, though.

Fricking Right! Transformers without the Dinobots is like KFC without chicken. It just wont work.

Can someone please point me to a good Transformers resource. The Transformers category on Idiotpedia is way too cluttered and confusing.

http://www.tfarchive.com/

I think that site's okay. I haven't visited in a few years, but I remember visiting it often back in the day.

I'll hold my fanboyish giggles for the first trailer or two, because right now all I see is Michael Bay. I do like that the writers and other members of staff are chatting with fans. Hopefully that'll have some impact on the quality of the actual film.

Ok, the Transformers mythology is impossible for me to unravel at this point.

I'm only interested in finding out about the original Transformers. That's the one where Megatron turns into a gun, right.

Does anyone even like the Autobots.

Only Autobots that matter are Optimus Prime and Grimlock.

The apparent failure of The Island is more a reflection of bad promoting than bad directing. The promotion for the movie was sparse and poor. One thing especially was that they revealed far too much in the preview, which is something you don't want do if you wish to create hype (just look at the success of the "What is the Matrix?" ad campaign before the first matrix movie). The Island only did $35,818,913 domestically, but it did far better in the international box-office with a return of $124,466,160 (total of $160,285,073). Sure they were expecting more, but that isn't a flop. Now movies like Stealth ($32,116,746 domestically and $44,816,126 internationally) were definitely a flop, and Stealth cost $10million more than The Island to make.

As for the Transformers movie, it is going to be CGI + Actors. It might start off as a secret war between autobots and decepticons from the human perspective, but I can't say for sure. The number one thing they have to do with this movie is appeal to a larger audience, while still keeping the fans happy. The animated Transformers movie was absolutely awesome from a fan's point POV... however, the movie itself didn't do too well because it wasn't that accessible to the wider audience.

Nothing has been decided as to the music score. IMDB is like the GameFaqs of the movie world, except less informed when it comes to movies in preproduction... Hell they were even saying George Clooney had been approached to voice-over for Prime >___>; , which I'm happy to say that this is utter BS (based on reliable information provided directly by the makers of the movie on their forums). Casting has only just begun, and they've started with human roles first.

Danny Elfman to score the Transformers movie.

No argument.

Oh, wait. Brad Fiedel would be sik.

Fuck that! Lion needs to reprise their metal theme of Transformers! And Stan Bush needs to bring the Touch!:tpg:

This movie could be the most badass thing ever, but all I can picture is a bad looking godzilla esque movie with transformers in it.

I hope they just do the whole thing in CG.

As lame as it sounds I actually agree. The animated movie's music was actually pretty damn skippy and work pretty well with it, at least for me.

I don't know, I am not sure I'll be happy unless Vince DiCola scores the film... :D

Vince DiCola alone would make the movie gold. The original movie score is still one of my favorate soundtracks of all time. A very unique sound to say the least.

Ripping off a movie that appeared on Mystery Science Theater 3000 didn't help, either. That's not exactly good word-of-mouth.

They're going to have to be really creative with the script in order to be able to market this to someone other than Gen-X fanboys. Their biggest hurdle will be taking what was originally a series of half-hour toy commercials, and then trying to flesh the backstory out such that it doesn't seem totally ridiculous to non-fans. On paper, all by itself, robots that turn into cars and tape players is a stupid concept and it'll take some doing to make the whole scenario plausible.

I'm sure I'm not the only one utterly bewildered by the Transformers fandom, and in essence we're the people that the filmmakers are going to have to win over. The fans will come see the film even if it's total rubbish, but if they want to make money they'll have to make it appealing to everyone. I'm really wondering if that's even possible, if they're letting the fans (who are not always the best people to consult) run most of the show.

Vince DiCola as composer would be my first choice too, but I highly doubt he will get the job.
I think it's likely that it'll be someone from the Media Ventures stable.
Probably Steve Jablonsky, Hans Zimmer or Klaus Badelt!
(If we're lucky...then it's John Powell)

I'm really REAAALLLYYY hoping that Peter Cullen and Frank Welker will voice Optimus Prime and Megatron.
That's probably the one thing that will sell this movie to me and all the fanboys (or ex-fanboys, who wanna relive their childhood).
Too bad Chris Latta (Starscream) died though! :(

Actually, on the issue of Vince DiCola, he is supposed to make a presentation to Bay and the producers sometime this year (probably soon)... So it's by no means definite, but he's certainly being considered ^___~ **Hopes for the best**

Yeah, and it sucks how Chris Latta (Starscream) and Scatman Crothers (Jazz) are both dead ;___; I hope they pick good voice actors to replace them

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0225746/

Oh hell yeah, this guy is impressive.

When did that happen?!

He was once a man. A maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

+15 nerds points if you understand that

Probably throat cancer, from all the highvoicery he had to to in his line of work.

His loyal subordinates could testify to his superb stewardship of Cobra. But you don't have the courage to let them speak!

Well, Industrial Light and Magic already started to do test shoots for the movie. One of them can be found here. From the looks of it, the movie is in the right direction.

I'd much rather erase that travesty from my memory. Won't ever happen, though.

Latta's been dead for quite a while. Not exactly sure of what, but I hear he was pretty old. The guy they've been using for the current Starscream (TF Energon, etc) is a pathetic imitation. His Cobra Commander is even worse.

Is this the same footage that was found to be fake? If it is, Don Murphy has posted a reply on his forums.

As far as the movie goes, I'm a bit worried. The Transformers was and is my favorite cartoon of all time. I'd really hate to see this end up just another crappy B-movie. If it isn't going to be taken seriously, I would rather not see it done at all.

Yeah, both Don Murphy and Michael Bay have said that the footage is fake. The transformations will be far better than that :p

As for worrying about the quality of the movie, they have a good list of people working on the film. There has also been an unprecedented amount of interaction between the filmmakers and fans... In other words, the fans are at least getting their opinions heard. That being said, this movie will not purely be fan-service... They want to make sure this movie is successful too, so yes, I'd say the makers of this film are taking everything very seriously ^__~

Man, G.I Joe movie still gives me the creeps to this day...something about that movie was just way off for an 8yr old boy to see. It wasnt easy seeing half the cast either day or get seriously messed up [blind or turned into a friggin lizard! =( ]

Well, I thought I'd bump this thread back up seeing as filming has now started. The first week of filming has just finished, and a teaser trailer is promised by early July this year ^___^

There've been a few disturbing "script reviews" based on old versions of the script. However, both Bay and Don have pointed out that these leaked scripts are at least 4 months old, and alot of work and changes have occurred since then.

It appears that the decepticon line-up may have changed since I first started this thread. We don't know anymore who officially will be on the Decepticon side. There has been talk, for example, of having Soundwave sit it out for this movie and appear in a sequel.

Anyway, here's Bay's update from the first week of filming

Aggreed. The movie is a marvel of animation, especially the intro, but the plot is so out there to the point that it makes longtime fans uncomfortable to even mention it; seriously, was there anyone who preferred Serpentor over Cobra Commander. On the upside, it was worth watching the following season (even though it was kiddie-sized considerably) just to see him get his comupance.

But no, used car salesman>multi-eyed smurf who turns into a lizard. Seriously, how did they even come up with that? :edgartpg:

And that better not be a final script. Soundbyte? Screw that shit. Soundwave or nothing.

http://www.yuanlei.com/transformers/.../soundwave.jpg

Honestly, could they please not mess with him? He's probably the most iconic Transformer after Optimus.

constructicons inferior.

Quoted for truth

Yeah, that's something we're very worried about... There is a list of major concerns that the large majority of fans don't like about the old scripts. I swear they better not fuck with Soundwave and make him a 4ft minion that gets his head kicked off (twice! :mad: )... I'm just hoping that it was either a placeholder name, or complete misinformation (I mean, I can handle them making Soundwave a vehicle... but it better be one kickASS vehicle... )

... If they want to make Soundbyte as a homage to the G1 alt-mode (because for toy purposes that would be the closest thing we get to a re-issue... and I want one...), then I say they should only do it IF said SB is a minion of the true SOUNDWAVE!!!

Other disturbing rumours include Mutebee (Bumblebee not speaking for the WHOLE movie due to battle damage... Can't Ratchet repair him, or is Ratchet Cybertron's worst doctor?), Optimus Lips (Prime with retractable faceplate? Why?), Jet Megatron, and Brawl as a police car (once again, I'm hoping that this is nothing but a "placeholder" name)

From that Michael Bay blog.

Sweet zombie jesus! A month for a teaser. A MONTH.

Also, I have a very, very strong feeling the trailer will be attached to Pirates 2 (July 7th).

Some nice pretty vehicle images from the Transformers movie have been leaked. I made a journal entry about them, and then afterwards thought I should post it here too... And since I'm too lazy to re-type everything, I'll just link it :p

Click Here

While I still do believe that Bumblebee should be once a Volkswagon, always a Volkswagon, I can live with the change.

Specifically since this will be the real debut of the new Camaro concept that'll probably go into production in the next few years.

Yeah, it kinda does suck how VW refused to be involved with Transformers ;___; (so no BB alternator, and no BB VW in the movie ;____; )

... But I have to say, the Camaro idea is definitely growing on me :D

God damn it, I was going to make this thread.

At least Prime is getting a lot of attention in the film.

Teaser poster released:
http://www.aintitcool.com/pics/tf-teaser.jpg

The official site is also up:
http://www.transformersmovie.com/

Seems to be counting down for something at the end of the month. Teaser trailer perhaps?

I don't have a clue whose eye that is. Is it part of a face, or is the eye in the center? If it's the latter, it's got to be Shockwave, but I'm not sure.

The coloring resembles Optimus Primal, but that's it. Otherwise, the poster is a bit blah. Something that parodies a car ad would've been far more clever.

Nice ^____^

I like the music on the site. Sure, it's just placeholder music for now, but hopefully it gives us an indication of what the tone of the movie will be like :D

Can't wait for the teaser now!! ^____^


I think the eye is just a generic transformer eye looking out through a slightly modified version of the autobot faction symbol (i.e. metallic grey and eye shape altered slightly to make it look more menacing in the poster)

Try comparing the autobot faction symbol with this image, and note the creases around the nose, the upper left of the eye, and the deep "gouge/scar" above the brow. You'll see what I mean ^___^

ADDITIONAL POST:
Okay, so someone on TFW2005 actually took the flash file from the official website, took it apart, and saved the complete eye image from the flash file.

Definitely the Autobot Faction Symbol ;)

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/chaosbringer/transformers/eye.jpg

Looks like it ripped off War of the Worlds on that poster. Decent though.

...Which could be argued was a ripped off Independence Day poster, which in turn was probably ripped from something else...
I can agree with this motif in particular isn't anything new or exiting...

Even though blue, the eye is clearly evil. I say its megatron look at the black slanted shape of the the eye to be able to tell

SOUNDWAVE SUPERIOR. SCRIPT WRITERS INFERIOR.

Soundwave is one of the few things about Transformers thats still just as bad-ass as when I was a kid. I don't care about this movie but I just don't want them to fuck with Soundwave, okay? (My goddamned winamp skin is Soundwave for fuck's sake)

Nah, it's definitely the Autobot Symbol

Here's the poster with the gamma heavily adjusted. Could it be any more obvious ;) :p

http://www.d13satellite.com/donmurph...&postid=568723

Now compare that to the Autobot Insignia:
http://origins.colorado.edu/~jensena...es/autobot.jpg

Also notice the image I posted above which has the complete picture of the "face" that was decompiled directly from the flash file on the official web page. Notice the startings of the "streak"/groove at the bottom of the eye, which is an easily recognisable part of the autobot symbol


Yeah, so the eye is changed slightly, but they did that with the decepticon insignia as well (below is a picture taken from one of the decepticon cars - a Mustang - to be used in the movie, followed by the original decepticon symbol)

http://images.leftlanenews.com/conte...007-camaro.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Decepticon.png

I cannot believe they didn't use More Than Meets the Eye.

Also, while I'm pretty sure it's not any one Transformer in particular and just some Transformer-ish eye, if I had to pick a bot, I'd go with Optimus. I don't know why, it's just the first one that popped into my head.

But that may be because I'm wearing an Optimus T-shirt next to an Optimus Transformer.

The teaser poster doesn't really get me too excited, nor any of the other news I've heard lately.

It still isn't clear if the original voice actors will be back and who will score it (IMDB credits Steve Jablonsky, which seems the most obvious choice...but I usually doubt IMDB about these pre-release credits).

I do think the movie is in good hands with producer/writer Alex Kurtzman who has worked on some of my favorite tv-series (Alias & Xena).
Can't say I'm too happy about Michael Bay at the helm, but at least his last movie (The Island) was very good.
(I rather dislike Armegeddon & Pearl Harbor though.......very much!:p)

Has there even been anything filmed yet? A year from now seems too soon for an obviously effects heavy movie.

Yeah, they recently started filming.....not very long ago though.
(I believe somewhere mid-May)

Yeah, they started filming. TFW2005 has some on-set images up.

The teaser trailer is supposed to be released July 4th this year according to TFW2005. That poster is simply a close-up of the Autobot symbol with an eye behind it. Decepticon variation?

Here's some wallpapers:
http://www.transformersthemovie.info/

Principal photography started on 22 May. I'm not quite sure how long filming will take for this movie, but if it's any indication I know that for The Island it took around 84 days.

As for special effects, ILM has been working since pre-production on the CG models for each transformer, so hopefully this will mean that they will be able to focus more on other aspects of the film in post-production.

In any case, I think they have plenty of time. Spiderman 3, for example, is still filming (or at least was still filming last time I check last week), and that's slated for a May release.

(Oh yeah, one more thing, the Paramounts legal team has scoured the net trying to take down the set pics that were put up, and TFW2005 definitely was one of the sites affected. I know of one site that still has all the set pics up, but I'm not gonna post it here just incase it gets noticed. I've got the pics saved though, so I might upload them in a zip file off-site and then post the link)

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/2189/image0050ed.jpg

Here's the only one I have. Is it just me, or does the poster have a War of the Worlds vibe going?

It would be awesome to have some dude jump out of a car GTA-style, then have the car transform.

Seriousely, can Prime even can break dance ? I'm sure not, the C4 can beat the crap out of him anyday. :(

The Citreon C4 has nothin' on Soundwave.

Gigantic dance fights to be expected !

Interest +++ for the upcoming movie.

"They're breakdance fighting!"

They need to bring Weird Al for one of the sequels for a revisit to the Planet of Junk. It'd totally hurt the movie, but I'd lol pretty good.

I heard they're shooting for a trilogy, with Unicron eventually making an appearance. If this is true, who the fuck can replace Orson Wells?

I kind of like how the Death Star and Galactus are totally retarded, but combined they make the awesome that is Unicron.

Galvatron would totally whoop Silver Surfer's ass, though. In chess.

Anybody remember this?

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3...deprime6su.jpg


Which Comic con was this? I thought it was the '05 San Diego, but I might be wrong. Anyway, they were supposed to reveal the whole thing at this years con. Any word on that?

Yeah, that pic was definitely from the San Diego '05 comic con

As for whether they'll do a big reveal at this year's con, I have no idea ^^;

I honestly hope they do though, because I just want to know how Prime will look in this movie, and what vehicle he will be. If they get Prime right, it'll boost my confidence in this film immensely (because at the moment, I'm cautiously optimistic ^^; ).

If they make Prime anything other than a big rig truck, I have no doubt the movie will fail.

Edit: I'm downloading the old movie from '86, I believe, right now. Will I be missing out on any vital plotpoints if I watch it before the actual show?

Yeah. Well sort of. All you need to know for the movie is that it takes place in 2005 whereas the first couple of seasons of the show took place in 1984, so it skips ahead to when the Decepticons have taken Cybertron. Season 3 picks up where the movie left off with Galvatron and a weakened Decepticon army in shambles. Season 3 gets into the Quintessons (5-headed tentacle dudes in the movie) and their involvement in the creation of the Transformers.


If I'm not mistaken, that pic from San Diego Comic con '05 is the official version of Prime's vehicle that will be used in the movie. Judging from all the pictures of it, the shape is spot-on with the 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime toy (coolest toy ever hands down period and one of the most accurate G1 Primes ever, even more so than the original toy!). I'm not worried about Prime, the script (from what I've read about it) gives alot of fan service to Prime. He'll be G1 accurate to a tee. It's the other characters we need to worry about. Though I'm not too happy about Camero Bumblebee, I guess I can learn to accept it. It's not too big a flaw I suppose, I mean it's not like they wouldn't have made Bumblebee a VW Bug if VW were willing to give them the rights. Stupid VW.

I'm holding out hopes for this. I'm a little disappointed they seem to be changing a number of the vehicles, but as long as they get the soul and spirit of the Transformers right this could rock. I actually thing, for once, Michael Bay is totally the right guy for the film. Bring it.

Michael Bay said he'd give the original voice cast a shot and true enough Transformer producer Don Murphy posted that Peter Cullen (Optimus Prime G1) recently auditioned for the movie. He wouldn't go into detail if he was hired or what role he read for but here's the link:
http://www.d13satellite.com/donmurph...threadid=11262

This movie will be ultimate fail if Optimus Prime isn't played by Cullen.

Yeah, I don't know if I could take an Optimus Prime unless it sounds like Optimus Prime, even if that means pitch altering someone else's voice.

Being the fanboy that I am, I've followed this thing fairly closely. Too early to make any judgements, but there are a few rumors (and let us pray they are just that) that have me worried.

1) The possibility that Optimus will not in fact be a semi, but rather a fire truck. If this is to be based off G1, then that's a big no-no. Of course, there will some pyrotechnics going on, as this IS going to about giant robots blowing the shit out of each other, so perhaps the fire truck is there for it's intended purpose. Perhaps some retard saw this and automatically jumped to conclusions. "Zomg, prime is teh ice crem truck!"

2) Okay, this is either total bull, or a guaranteed show-killer. Word is, there may be the possibility of an X-box (maybe 360), an iPod, and a LCD-screen tv doing some transforming. ....Now I know we've all thought it, just a little, the thought of Soundwave being an iPod, but come ON. I mean, maybe it would be okay if, say, Ravage, Frenzy and Lazerbeak were to have these as alt modes, but where would that leave Soundwave/byte(god, no)? An entertainment center?

3) One name that pops up amongst the Decepticon ranks is Devestator. Those familiar with G1 will recall that he's the (original, no less) combiner, composed of the six Constructicons. Though as a mere placeholder for now, the name's been assigned to the tank slated to appear in the movie. Personally, I feel that Devestator should be combiner or bust. By all appearances, there's not going to be any combiners in the movie (likely a treat for the sequel), so are they just using the name as a red herring, or will it actually belong to one of the movie's characters?

4) Same with the police cruiser dubbed Brawl. Placeholder or not, will he be an actual character? G1 Brawl was part of the Combaticon combiner group, as a tank, so the tank role seems logical, though it will more likely go to good ol' Megatron (a tank has been his mode of choice over his various incarnations; even his original mode was a tank, as depicted in the War Within comics). Though if Brawl is going to be an actual character, (and maybe this is skippng a bit prematurely), and if he does end up a tank, will he join up with the other Combaticons in the sequel for an all-out combiner braw..er, melee?

5) The name Scorponok has been mentioned as well. Rumor has it he'll be a rather small character, in the literal sense. As opposed to the titanic G1 city-former. Not saying he should be the size of manhattan, but bigger than an actual scorpion, please.

6) Not a rumor, per se, but rather the dispelling of one. Sad to say, there is no proof of Peter Cullen actually auditioning. Details here: http://www.d13satellite.com/donmurph...threadid=11313


Now, mind you, these are all rumors, and with so many floating around this movie I could be off on some points. And nearly everything I've said regarding said rumors is purely my opinion. You can take or leave it as you please. You can even criticize it. I'm just speaking as someone who's been with the series almost from the outset (born in 1985, how's that for timing?), and as a fan. Not rabid, mind you (you don't see me flaming, and you never will), just knowledgable to the point of obsession.

Oh, and this is something I found. Nothing too spectacular, but the closest we have to a trailer, ya? http://www.sendspace.com/file/yhq2kq

This movie is going to rule. How the fuck can you screw up Transformers? Honestly! Seeings as they're basing it on the G1 series, they must be going for an older audience at least to some degree. As well, even though it didnt go over so well in the theatres, The Island was a great movie. In fact, one of my more memorable movie experiences in the past few years. So Im expecting cool things from this flick.

That'd do it for me.

Lets just hope they don't take too many liberties. I don't see how something can be called generation one transformers if Optimus Prime is a fucking fire engine :P

Not having the classic Optimus/Megatron/Starscream voices would probably do the movie a huge injustice. I'll see how it turns out, but I'm not too optomistic...it is Hollywood...

Also, the original Starscream is apparently dead.

Doh! I didn't know that.

I love me some Transformers! Definitely gotta see it...especially if Cullen and Welker take the helm. Did anyone go to BotCon? Cullen said that he would jump at the chance if they asked him to return to the role that made him famous.

And they should make Megatron a Triple Changer: So he can be a tank/gun and make everyone happy :)

Yeah...Chris Latta (Best known for Starscream and Cobra Commander, and more aptly known as the original VA for Moe the Bartender on the Simpsons) died in the mid 90s. 94 I believe.

Didn't they make Optimus Prime a fire truck in the most recent incarnation of the series? (He even had this cool transformation in which he could use the ladder contraption as a cannon.) If this is the case, the producers may just be trying to use an Optimus younger viewers will recognize.

Seems that Tappy was right; Steve Jablonsky is indeed signed to score. He recently recorded music for a teaser trailer, according to soundtrack.net.

Optimus Prime can't be a fire truck. I mean I won't bitch and moan if he is, but I don't think it'd look nearly as cool as a fucking big rig.

They did indeed. It was actually done a lot like the original Optimus in that the front part was the standard robot, which looked a little like G1 Optimus, but then you can add on the back half (equivalent to the cargo area) to turn him into a bigger robot. I think it could even go on to combine with Ultra Magnus to form Omega Prime or something.

Yeah, here you go:
http://www.opimage.co.uk/u/OmagnusPr...us_Prime_1.jpg

Still not as cool as the original G1 though.

Teaser trailer is online...
http://www.transformersmovie.com/

They threw it up on the site early after the teaser was leaked on YouTube. Pretty much a teaser in every sense of the word with the only Transformer seen being a brief, darkened shot of a Decepticon and it's shadow on Mars.

That really was a teaser in every way, we have to wait a year for the film :( that makes me want it now. And not even a proper transformation in sight :(

Ok, can any of you nerds here recommend a good Optimus Prime toy to buy.

http://www.tfsource.com/Reissues/THS...X02-Convoy.htm

Is this good.

Oh, this is it.

http://www.tfsource.com/Reissues/MP-...iece-Prime.htm

Normally I wouldn't buy stuff like that, especially when its a $120, but hey, its Prime, so I did. Go for the bottom one, also, the Ultra Magnus one looks awesome as well. They can transform, but they look much better in robot form.

Also, the boxes they come in transform into a trailer. They're a bitch though, I broke mine trying to do it.

Fuck that teaser. Seriously, they at least should have had the transforming sound effect in it somewhere. That was totally Megatron at the end. He looks like the original toy (does that mean they made him turn into a gun after all?). Why were the Decepticons on Mars 4 years before they come to Earth? Damn it, Bay is fucking it up isn't he? That's not the way I remember it!

Also, the teaser seems to have been removed from the official site for now (probably because of server overload), but I can still find it on Youtube: Youtube TF movie teaser (that's the right one right?). Now I need a hi res version to make a few gifs from...



In a related matter, the Titanium series toys should be out soon. War Within Megatron and Prime FTW.

God damn, the teaser is taking so long to load. Balls to my crappy computer!

Y'know, I actually don't think the thought of the TFs being on Mars is a bad idea. More believable than being stuck under a mountain for a couple million years, then being woken up when it erupts. To be honest, that concept DID always seem a little far-fetched.

And GOOD GOD. Short as that was, that was sweet. Grr, they better release another trailer sometim in the near future. God, this is like Advent Chidren all over again.

*Cringe* Okay, okay, bad comparison. Trying not to jinx it now.

Hm, is there anywhere that has this for actual download?

Um...did you even WATCH the original Transformers? EVERYTHING about the show was far-fetched. That's what made it awesome. 30 foot tall Megatron transformed into a tiny hand gun, Soundwave transformed into a boom box, hell, even the act of transforming is pretty rediculous. I'm starting to get worried because Bay is changing stuff that doesn't need to be changed, it was perfetly fine the way it was.

I heard rumors that Optimus Prime may actually transform into a Ferrari.

Of course Megatron will transform into a Pink DS.

Banned from thread.

I love how they didn't even hide the fact that that was not even Mars' atmosphere. They could've at least digitally altered it a rust color with no clouds. Other than that nitpick, I want to see it.

Nitpickers are hilarious.

"Bumblebee is a camaro! That's terrible!"
"Soundwave may be a digital music player!"
"The teaser trailer that usually has absolutely fuck all to do with the actual movie has a scene on Mars!"
"They're changing things that don't need to be changed!"

Yeah, maybe they are. But they are also changing things that don't have to stay the same. Bumblebee not being a Volkswagon will NOT change the character. He'll just look prettier. (By the way, they wanted to have him as a bug but VW said no).

It makes perfect fucking sense for Soundwave to be a mp3 player. If the whole premise of transforming is to be able to hide amongst the humans, why would he transform into a 25 year old peice of technology? A boom box worked fine the 80s. Everyone had one. Now everyone has iPod's.

The Mars thing. Are people actually bitching that a teaser trailer had a scene in which they showed a bot on Mars? Really? Is that all you have to complain about? Did Spider-Man have a scene in which he foils a bank robbers' helicopter by trapping it between buildings? No. But it was in the teaser. Did the Hulk have that scene of him destroying his house like in the teaser? No. What makes you so damn certain that the movie will actually HAVE anything to do with Mars?

Worse case scenario, it does. Then what? The Autobots/Decepticons stopped on Mars to check the planet out before they came to earth. Or maybe instead of crash landing on Earth and being buried under a mountain, they crash landed on Mars and found there to be nothing there. So they came on over. I highly doubt that the movie is actually going to say that they CAME from Mars.

None of these changes detract from the story. None of them are horrible changes either. They didn't make Optimus an Ice Cream Van. They didn't make Starscream a scooter, or Jazz a Decepticon. They didn't kill off Hot Rod.

The movie will be different from the cartoon. It has to be. If you want the same fucking movie go watch the 1986 Transformers Movie.

And then come bitch about how they killed Prime.

As far as teasers go, it wasn't too bad. At least it showed us a glimpse of a plotline.
I'm not too happy with the way the logos "transformed", at least I hope it's not an example of how they will do the actual transformations in the movie. Transforming should be with big, structered pieces that makes sense in a way, not just "exploding" in a million pieces and then miraculously merge into a new form.

Mobius, I think you should stop comparing the movie to the G1 cartoon. They will not be the same thing. The pure basics like the characters (hopefully), Autobots, Decepticons and their leaders will be the same, but the rest will obviously be recreated from scratch, to accomodate newcomers and to avoid the hassle of having to sort out 20 years of established continuity just to please the hardcore fans.
A good example would be the comic Transfomers: Infiltration by IDW: Same characters, same planet but different alternate mode and background. It works, more or less.
As for "mass-shifting", I think they've already said that it won't happen. They clearly want to go for the "realistic" approach when it comes to transforming and their alternate modes. Besides, appart from G1, I don't think any other incarnation of the Transformers has used mass-shifting since then.

As far as I'm concerned, the only things that really matter are a good storyline, characters that are true to their originals and lots of robot/transforming action. Having Cullen and Welker reprise their roles would be nice for nostalgic reasons, but they are not irreplacable.

Edit: damned Acid, you beat me too it :D

Why not compare the movie to G1 continuity since that's what the film is BASED ON? They're not supposed to be recreating things from scratch, just modernizing it a bit. Yes, I read Infiltration too. It's not a bad comic, but I liked Dreamwave's runs better. Why? Because they focused on what made G1 so great, not trying to retell things in a semi-feasible way.


Look, I'm not too upset about the Mars thing, and I'm not nitpicking (LOL, blue skies). I'm just a tad alarmed because this is supposed to be based on G1, and it doesn't seem like Bay is going to any effort to show us that. It seems almost like he's trying to make it very differnt from G1. Maybe the review of the leaked script on TFW2005 was right, maybe it will be a good film for casual movie goers, but will lack that Transformers spirit and will be a let-down for G1 fans. That's just the impression I'm getting. I realize things need to change in order to modernize it and make it and more realistic, but Bay sure could be catering to the fans a bit more. Just because fans are salivating at the idea of seeing realistic Transformers on the big screen doesn't mean Bay automatically has us in his pocket. I'm sure it will be an entertaining film with cool Transformers moments, but will it really be Transformers?

That's why I'm having as low as expectations as possible. :D

Given the director and Hasbro's sole need to sell their toys/repaints for the next years, I think that was a given. Money has to be made but with as little risk as possible, so why feel the need to try to please both the hardcore fans and the newbies? I don't know how it's like in the States but exposure to G1 in Europe is nil, the only thing they show here are the new shows like Energon or Cybertron. The last time I saw G1 on TV was 10 years ago. Which means their main target audience couldn' care less if Prime's a firetruck or Megatron a tank.

I am not trying to defend the apparent route this movie's going to take, but there's no use in tearing apart the movie on it's faults, no matter how true they may be. Besides, it's still too early to see how it's going to turn out anyway.

Have no fear, none of the footage from the "teaser"/announcement will actually appear in the movie, and no, the Transformers are NOT martians ;) They're still good-ol' cybertronians :D

Also, the teaser bits with the rover from the teaser were shot by Michael Bay in a total of 45mins ;) So, thankfully, it seems he's focusing on more important aspects (i.e. the actual movie ;))

(Btw, the Wales reference actually relates to a site created by some fans, which has subsequently been causing trouble for the production crew - i.e. Illegally posting copyrighted images [and in this case even illegally trying to release the "announcement" a couple of days early], Tricking people into to thinking that it is the real official site, Attempting to make money from the site by trying to sell the domain name to Paramount, Causing interforum flamewars, etc etc... These people happened to Welsh :p )


This teaser is meant to function as an "announcement" to the general public that there is a Transformers movie on its way. It is much like the first Spiderman trailer with the bank robbers and two towers in that regards :p

Hopefully they'll have a proper teaser trailer ready once production/shooting finishes (I'm hoping that such a teaser will come out in Sept/Oct... but realistically I'd be guessing that it'd be released closer to Dec/Jan)

Oh, and as for the Mars sky being blue, we can blame NASA for the confusion :p ...

• http://mars-news.de/color/blue.html
• http://www.libertythink.com/totalinf...n/BlueMars.htm
• http://mars-news.de/life/
• http://webexhibits.org/causesofcolor/14C.html

As for the Beagle-2... well... okay, that was a bit of a factual "oops", but in the end I don't think it mattters, since it won't actually appear in the movie :p

ZOMG, BUMBLEBEE!

Looks more like Hot Shot.

http://www.decepticon-matrix.com/tfg...otShot_400.jpg

Not that it's a bad thing, as the original design just looks a bit wimpy these days. But I do hope there will be more casing around the joint areas.

Hot Shot....bah! I can't stand these new Transformers series. It all went downhill after Beast Machines. Anyway, I don't really know what to make of the image. I can't really tell if it's supposed to be fully transformed or in mid-transformation. The engine block is a nice touch though.

Yeah, that image is something that made the people at Paramount Legal very very unhappy a couple of weeks ago. They went on a spree and hunted down all the sites they could find with it up on, and proceeded to pull the pics down :p (they even went so far as to pull down a movie blogger's entire site... which caused a bit of anger and angst... oh well :p )

The pic was taken at the Hoover Dam shoot. Too bad they couldn't have gotten a more frontal shot of the head :p

In any case, it's clear they're going for a look closer to the Alternators/Binaltech toy line for this movie

Apparently this BB that you see is what is called a "non-shootable"... In other words a scale reference model (if you look closely you can see that the model is far from refined... the hydraulics underneath BB to make him move are clearly visible, and you can also see bits of steel scaffolding around his shoulders [look at the big discs closest to the engine block] and elsewhere... the original image was higher res, which made these things a little easier to see :p)

Apparently (according to Michael Bay) the actual CGI models are even MORE detailed than the non-shootable :D

Anyway, Nelson from MB.com explained the concept of a "non-shootable" pretty well, using a scene from Bad Boys 2 for illustration:

I figured it was a model they would use for reference when doing the CGI (It's not like they built actual full scale working robots for the film). I like the Alternators line, so this isn't a bad start.

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2006...timusTruck.jpg

I like how the flames on his truck will represent the flames that will occur throughout the world wide web.

Optimus is not "hip", okay. He's a by-the-books leader. That's what makes him cool. Not a stupid decal.

I'm mixed on this.

Your image is gone. I'll give you 1 guess why. Please host image on imageshack (the image was removed from Aintitcool by Paramount) and then post it here in spoiler tags (so Paramount can't find us!).

They worked faster than I thought. If it turns up again, I'll be sure to host it.

You didn't save it? "You're an idiot Starscream!" Always SAVE leaked TF pictures to your HD ASAP!

I saw the trailer for this movie the night I went to see Pirates of the Carribbean. The teaser looked absolutely excellent, and the entire audience was on the edge of collective its seat, right to where the deceptacon slashed at the Mars rover as the announcer told us "This was the only warning we ever got."

Immediately afterwards, the transformers logo flashed proudly acrossed the screen. The theatre ERUPTED (phoosh!) With laughter.

That's the thing about this movie, it's going to have a hard time being taken seriously, but it could really go either way.

Luckily I did.

Fails for trying to look badass but isn't. I don't accept anything but fire-engine red. And maybe some blue.

Yeah... things really aren't pretty at all now at the Transformers forums

It's been announced that Bay should be making a response to this leaked picture soon......... So we're waiting......... But fuck, there's not a whole lot that he can say... How does intend to spin THIS bullshit ;_____________;

Massively heartbroken doesn't even begin to cover this.

That can't be Prime, especially when there's this:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3...deprime6su.jpg
(Why go to the trouble of perfectly replicating G1 Prime in full scale and not even use it?)


Everyone knows that G1 Prime is a red flatnose semi, and nothing else. Since this movie is supposed to be G1, then that can't be Prime. Either it's some other Transformer, or its not even from the movie. It could be part of some disinformation campaign to throw us off.




The USAF has posted a video on the set:

http://www.af.mil/shared/media/av/main.html?showid=1229

Did he say it takes place in the middle east?

The movie follows a few different story lines all at once from the perspective of humans

One is the story of Sam / Spike taking place in a small/medium town.

Another will revolve around a troop unit in the middle east and their first encounter with decepticons there (namely Scorponok)

Another will focus on "Project Iceman"... An accidental discovery of a Transformer/Decepticon (?Possible megatron) frozen in ice somewhere in the Arctic circle.

And finally, there is one that focuses on the government and government code-breakers trying to either decipher a garbled message, or possible an extension of the Project Iceman story. Somewhere this will also include the secretary of state (Jon Voight)

As the story progresses, their invidiual story arcs will converge into one for the finale.

So, yeah, based on that premise, it sounds like a well-written scripts... Just too bad it seems like it's being cheapened unecessarily.

Anyway, I'll let you know what Bay says when he finally emerges

Oh... and that flatnose truck was taken at the Comic-Con a year ago, before the movie was officially greenlit, and before Bay was officially brought on board ;____; It seems things have changed drastically since. The movie is becoming less and less G1... or indeed less and less Transformers

Right now, it looks like the movie will be a good movie about robots that transform.... However, it probably won't be a good Transformers movie ;_____;

Isn't there supposed to be an iPod and 360 in the movie? I don't think they're trying to replicate G1 as much as they're trying to update it. That might include making a more "zomg badass" Prime.

I'm not so sure AICN is all that credible what with telling us that picture is Prime. I'm going to live in denial until it's official, after which I will disown the movie. It should be more like this:

http://img449.imageshack.us/img449/6...optimus.th.jpg

While Bay hasnt himself appeared yet, the long-nose truck portion of it has definitely been confirmed... And the flames will be appearing in some context. No idea what. Let's just hope that this is only on the vehicle that Prime scans, and that he at least retains his G1 colour scheme :(

I can handle the long-nose Prime... I don't necessarily like it, but I can deal with it.... But the Flames are just pointless, and if anything detract from Prime's character

Anyway, still waiting on Bay... I'm getting tired of waiting, and fed-up with feeling disappointed

I wouldn't doubt they're keeping total secrecy as to not disappoint the fans before they sit down in their seats.

I fucking hate this thread.

All I see is whining over the fact that Optimus Prime isn't the same truck as he was in the original series. Throw in a buch of waah over the fact that it doesn't exactly replicate a television show made for children. Who the fuck cares? It's a movie. It's supposed to be an alternate interpretation of Transformers. If I wanted fucking G1, I would buy the season DVDs.

Are you blind, or something? That's isn't "perfectly replicating G1 Prime", nor was it anything more than an advertisement.

Everyone knows you're a shitstain and nothing else.
http://www.tfu.info/1991/Cybertron/S...starconvoy.htm
http://www.tfu.info/1994/Autobot/Opt...timusprime.htm
http://www.tfu.info/1995/Autobot/Opt...timusprime.htm
http://www.tfu.info/1995/Autobot/Opt...timusprime.htm
http://www.tfu.info/1997/Autobot/Opt...timusprime.htm
http://www.tfu.info/2004/Autobot/Spy...timusprime.htm
http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/d...2B14A6033C14A1

Great. Another smart-ass ignorant motherfucker who thinks he knows everything. Well then your solution is simple... Don't post in it dickwad :rolleyes:

[Luthor]WRONG!![/Luthor] The entire premise behind making this movie was to make it G1-based. Look at the character line-up. Read the original announcements by the people involved (e.g. Don Murphy, Tom DeSanto, Steven Spielberg, John Rogers, Robert Orci, Alex Krutzman) way back in 2004. The script was written as an adaptation of the G1 story-line. NOT Beast Wars/Beast Machines, NOT RiD, NOT A/E/C. Idiot.

Oh great, so he finds the more obscure toy versions of Prime and posts them up, and he thinks he knows something. Seriously what neanderthalic cave did YOU crawl from? Did these versions have massively popular cartoon series that they were in, which appealed to generations over two decades? (Answer: No... btw... just in case you still don't get it)

In taking a pre-existing franchise and adapting it to cinema, the tried and tested successful method involves finding what worked in the original franchise to make the series popular, what aspects were the heart and soul of the piece, and then taking those elements and using them to build a faithful adaptation. Yes, changes are necessary, and so long as they are done in good taste there are no problems. However, when you have changes that are made to the detriment of the core of the franchise (in this case, anti-characterstic flame design on Prime, which is totally contradictory to his personality), then problems are encountered.

More examples? X-men had many changes. The suits were thankfully changed. However, the main characters retained their basic characteristics and overall look. In contrast, Catwoman shit all over the franchise. A complete change in costume and character that looked awful, a poorly written script that was the chaotic product of too many scriptwriters being involved... A script which had no real common link back to source material. Which one succeeded and which one failed? >___>;

As opposed to whining about a motherfucking truck?

G1-based. Not G1. Watch your shitty cartoon if you want G1.

Why do you Media Centre shitstains always have to bring up irrelevant shit? The point is that the character of Optimus Prime can be adapted to something other than "flat-nosed red truck", and has been. "Neanderthalic cave"? Who fuck are you trying to impress?

Lawl at "appealed to generations over two decades". No. It's just the same robot fags that haven't grown up. When I was young, kids cared about Optimus Primal. Kids now care about Armada, Energon, and Cybertron's Optimus Prime, not some guy from a shitty '80s cartoon.

IT'S A FUCKING TRUCK.

No shit captain obvious... And if you actually bothered to read the fan response to the alt-mode for Prime before opening the maw of stupidity that is your mouth, you'd find that most fans DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE LONG-NOSE! Yes, they'd PREFER flat-nose, but we understand the need for the longer nose. Hell, considering there was rumour of him being a Firetruck in this film, we're a little relieved on that point.

The actual PROBLEM here (and listen very carefully, sparky, so that you don't make more of an ass of yourself than you already have) are the motherfucking FLAMES. On a decepticon whose character is arrogant and hotheaded, these flames would look great. However, they don't suit Prime at all, and are completely contradictory to his character and leadership style (no matter WHICH arm of the Transformers you franchise you look at, old or new).

You're still overreacting on the basis of your preconceived notions of a fictional character in a '80s cartoon. It's a piece of fiction that you and a mass of thirty-year-old children are getting too personal with. While we're on this point, the "THE FANS THE FANS THE FANS" shit doesn't work on me because the great majority of them are fucking retards who still haven't gotten over the fact that Transformers is primarily for children. You can't really expect me to give a shit about their opinion.

The insults don't work if you're trying too hard, by the way. "Maw of stupidity that is your mouth" No.

how do i shot be a bigger baby than those complaining. Who would've thought fans would complain about the minor changes Hollywood makes? I mean, this has to be the first time this have ever happened. Ever. Whether the changes are good or not is completely irrelevant at this point. Since, well, you know, this is fans discussing things fans care about. Opinions might eventually change, but probably not right now. So let the complainers complain.

I'm not sure how the presence of previous retarded whining makes the whining over flames on a truck any less retarded.

So in essence you are:
A) Trolling
B) Too stupid to comprehend anything but low-brow insults
C) Too thick-skulled to listen to what people are actually saying, but instead clouded by your overriding ignorant stereotype and perceptions.

I would point out once again that you're an ass, but you're already doing a good enough job on your own.

Is that really the best you can do? "u dum troll bigot!" =/

It's called making an observation.

You came here armed with nothing but your stereotypical dogmatic view of a what a "fanboy" is, and an oversized ego, and decided to start by hurling abuse. In your eyes there exist only two extremes - The general public and the thirty-something fanboy purists who live in their mother's basement. You consistently show that your goal is forum-bash. Your arguements consist of returning back to your dogmatic perception of the fanboy rather than face the reality of what is being said.

Hence, A), B), and C) above. *shrugs*

Face the reality of what? That flames on a truck doesn't jolt with your perceptions of a fictional character and that you're getting too whiny over it? Mostly Mobius One, but whatever.

The existence of differing classes of people who like Transformers is irrelevant to the discussion, since those other groups aren't sobbing incessantly over flames on a truck instead of enjoying or disliking the movie for what it is. I collect the fucking toys myself and frequent Transformers message boards. I freely admit that I haven't grown up much in relation with toys. Yet, I'm not threatening to disown the movie for not being a utterly slavish recreation of G1. When I watch the movie, it'll be good or suck on its own merits, not via comparison with a cartoon twenty years ago. If the movie truly sucks, flames on a truck will be the least of its problems.

I will agree that sometimes to go overboard with shit like this, not everything will be the same and as long as they don't make MAJOR changes it should still be good.

All there is to discuss/complain about right now is flames on a truck. So flames on a truck will be discussed and/or complained about. That's just how it works. It'll most likely be looked upon as really, really trivial the more information is released.

Congratulations on shooting yourself in the foot. I absolutely fail to see how you can bitch at this movie for putting flames on a truck (because you know, some of them have that), yet praise X-Men for going from Yellow to black leather.

IT'S THE SAME THING.

Yeah, he looks a little different, but as of now we have absolutely no indication that it is not going to be the same Optimus we loved growing up, just with a slightly different paint job. Wolverine didn't have the mask, but he was still just as cool.

Sure I want the red/blue Optimus. But I can certainly live with that change if they get the character right.


So you've read the script? You've read the top secret script that no one has read? So you then know, for a fact because you've read the script, exactly what happens in the movie and why it will suck? Like you know that the characters arn't going to act like you think they should? And that the script is not going to be G1 focused at all?

No you don't, because you haven't read shit. Forming such strong opinions about the movie based on the ramblings of a few AICN talkbackers is immature and irrational. You don't know anything about the movie besides that Optimus may have flames on him at some point and that a large yellow robot (perhaps Bumblebee) makes an appearance at the hoover dam.

"War and Peace" sucked. But ofcourse, that's just what I decided to believe, never actually having read War and Peace.

It was announced today at comic-con that the original voice of Optimus Prime will be returning for the movie

:GIDDY:

Did they always have the same voice actor for all the Transformer series?

This is really awesome news!!
Now all we need is Frank Welker as Megatron and then everyone can be completely happy!
(it would surprise me if he won't do it.....because he's still rather active in the bizz)

No. For G1, it was Cullen, then from Beast Wars on to Armada, Energon, and Cybertron it was Gary Chalk. He did a pretty damned good job in Beast Wars too (wouldn'tve have minded if he'd ended up being the voice of Prime in the movie), though his work on the other series' was a little....ehh.
Also on that note, the guy who did the voice work for Beast Wars Megatron through pretty much every incarnation of the character afterwards is David Kaye. Personally, if they can't get Welker to do the voice, I vote for this guy, even if he doesn't have a raspy, sinister voice.

How does these guys sound? "Wahwah, what if randomname doesn't voice random Transformer! It'll be shit!"
I've never watched the original, only danish dubs, so I'm pretty much in the dark about the importance of the "right" VA...

Robots in Disguise had a different guy. Neil Kaplan, I think.

For people who are fans of the original series and the movie, such as myself. If hearing another voice for Prime can be a bit jarring. This is one of the reasons that I could never get into any of the later series

I personally like the voice actor from Beast Wars (lol beasties in canada), so if that's who's doing the movie, then I'm down with it.

I nearly shat my pants after hearing that Cullen would reprise his role as Prime. I was also glad to hear that he would be a semi and not a god damn fire truck. I would've been okay with the Prime from Beast Wars too. ::goes off to find the Beast Wars dvds::

Awsome to hear Peter Cullen's coming back - but there is bigger news. Just today Paramount announced that there will be a live chat tommorow (7/18/06) witht the writers of the movie, where thay will announce all the names of the transformers who will be in the movie. I don't think I can make it, but I'll be looking for postings around the web later...

The official list as per that webcast is;

Optimus
BUmblebee
Jazz
Ratchet
Ironhide

Megatron
Starscream (FUCKING YES)
Brawl
Bonecrusher (Said to be the closest thing to a Constructicon. I'm thinking they just renamed Devastator)
Barricade
Scorpinok (Are you serious? Giant metal scorpions? awesome)
Frenzy (they said something like Soundwave, but not quite)
Blackout


Overall a decent list. Not everyone I wanted, but it's not terrible. I will say however that there is no Soundwave, and that I am pissed. Brawl? BRAWL? Over Soundwave. weak.

I was waiting for someone to post the results of that webchat.

Give me Grimlock!!!!

Webchat is still going, but now it's just fans asking questions. Anything important I'll post, but right now it's just "who would win in a fight? optimus or megatron?" and "will megatron insult Starscream atelast once?". The answer is yes.

Edit:

There is going to be a contest in a couple of weeks. "Write a line for Optimus Prime". Submit the line that Optimus has to say during the movie, and they'll pick one and get Peter Cullen to do it and stick it in the movie. While it's obvious that "Transform and Roll Out!" is going to be in the movie anyways (atleast I hope so), I'm so submitting "Light out darkest hour!"

They cut Soundwave out in this movie because of the catch-22 that no mass-shifting for this film posed (at first they had Blackout lined up to be Soundwave, but they were worried about the reaction to the new alt-mode... then it was Frenzy who was meant to be Soundwave, who was more true to G1... but let's face it, not exactly strong or menacing)

Don Murphy mentioned towards the beginning of the year at the Toronto BotCon that they were thinking of leaving Soundwave out for another movie, because, in his words, "I don't want to be the one that screws up Soundwave"

Personally, I wouldn't have minded Soundwave being the MH-53, but then again, I wouldn't mind him being introduced in a sequel either if it means he has more time dedicated to the development of his character

Anyway, I'm pretty satisfied with how this character line-up is sounding

My life has meaning again.

Thanks for posting the list acid, I didn't get to tune in.

My life has lost meaning.

I refuse to watch any hackjob adaption that seeks fit to remove the coolest Decepticon of all time.

Yeah, they said during the webcast that Frenzy's character kind of started out as Soundwave, but they changed him altogether because they felt they wouldn't really be doing him justice.

I just can't decide if a broken Soundwave is worse than no Soundwave at all.

Also These went up on the net sometime today. Don't know the legitmacy of them, but these may be first shots of some of the bots. The yellow one is obviously Bumblebee, and the truck is obviously Optimus. I've heard that the black truck may be Ironhide and the Hummer thing Ratchet. Or vice versa. The big skeleton thing was hinted at being either a frozen Megatron (When they find them in the arctic) or just an animatronic skeleton. Again, don't know if these are legit or what, but it's something.

I personally don't really care for the Bumblebee look. It's too anime-ish, not boxy enough. Still though, they could make Optimus out of toothpicks and I'd still be there in a Transformers t-shirt on opening day doing a bad Chris Latta impression.

Nachhooooossssssss!

How do you mess this up?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=S8kUCxrjLGs

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XPB26zTeN7k

How much simpler could it be? It must take a truly talentless asshole to mess that up.

Does anyone REALLY care about this whole "mass-shifting" bullshit? Is everyone going to walk out of the theater in disgusted disbelief just because they have a 2 story tall robot transforming into a portable boombox?

THEY ARE ROBOTS FROM OUTER SPACE. WHO CARES ABOUT REALISM?

I can't believe he isn't in this movie. Instant fail.

Well I'd imagine the exclusion of Soundwave is the fact that he's a tape recorder. While he was one of the most awesome characters in the show putting him in the movie would probably be a lose lose situation. The fans who want it to be true to form want a tape recorder, but the average moviegoer sees cassettes as outdated technology.

Then there's the one-of-a-kind voice. If this is their thinking I can understand why they'd leave him out.

Starscream toy:
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2...ca67fl9.th.jpg
Scorponok model:
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/347...8c25ac5.th.jpg
Optimus Prime model:
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/368...4405we0.th.jpg
Blackout toy:
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3...b497hp0.th.jpg
Blackout model:
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/495...39b5ls6.th.jpg

Commence whining.

Commencing whining...

Yup, this movie is not Transformers. This is Michael Bay's Giant Robots Who Happen to Change Forms.

It's too bad that Hollywood seems determined to shit out any movie, and not follow what made the idea for that movie good to begin with. I know they won't be getting my $10, and I truly hope that this movie bombs worse than Dungeons and Dragons, just so that Hollywood may start getting the idea that it is not good to put out bad movies.

You are capable to determining whether this movie is bad by determining whether they're carbon copies of designs from one specific era of Transformers or not?

Yup, considering it was supposed to be based loosely off G1, and then none of the Transformers even closely resemble anything they are supposed to. ie. It's the new Miami Vice, Godzilla, Honeymooners, Dukes of Hazard, Dungeons and Dragons, etc.

Sure, Michael Bay can do a decent action movie, and I'm sure that Transformers will be filled with action. But will it be Transformers? I think not. And if you think it will, you go enjoy playing with your Energon Cube. Me, I'm not going to support shitty movies, and I'm also not going to support Hollywood resurrecting an old idea only to shit on it to make it more "mainstream" and popular with the younger movie audience.

Transformers could have been a great movie. Instead it will be a ho hum forgettable action flick of the summer that no one will care about.

How can you fuck up a show that basically had a terrible storyline, crap one or two episode plots, and one-dimensional characters? You can't. Michael Bay CANNOT fuck this up, especially with guidence from Spielberg. Remember the source material here, guys.

And yet people see designs of the Transformers and because they don't look ANYTHING like their original G1 boxy and totally '80s counterparts, you're gonna bitch and claim the movie as a failure?

Gtfo.

What is the requirement for something to be "Transformers", again? They're robots that change into other stuff based on toys made by Hasbro and/or Takara. That's been the only unifying thread throughout the years. Beast Wars is Transformers. Robots in Disguise is Transformers. Cybertron is Transformers. The movie is Transformers, regardless of whether it matches with what you believe a movie based on a '80s cartoon should be.

Oh man, this is the worst day ever. First I have my first auto accident and am late to work, then work was extremely shitty, and now I find out that there's no Soundwave. If only I were emo, then I could pretend to kill myself.

Seriously, I always thought Soundwave would make a cool "sound tank" that uses sound to destroy stuff, sort of like Shriek in Batman Beyond except in tank form, like something straight outta Command and Conquer. There's no reason why they couldn't have included him. Starscream's robot mode looks like shit. All the robot modes look too alien and overly comlex. They look more out of Evangeleon than Transformers. The lack of armor and the exposed joints make them look vulnerable.




On the one plus side, I didn't know that Bumblebee was going to be one of the NEW Cameros! The black stripes make it look BAD ASS. I'm no longer complaining about lack of VW. Also, according to IGN, the movie explores Megatron's motives a bit, which will be interesting to see.


All in all, I agree with what Lord Jaroh said. Well put, right on the money.




Only an untrue Transfan would say that. Transformers died after Beast Machines, end of story. Dreamwave's Transformers comics are exactly what Transformers should be. Even the ones that weren't G1 (such as War Within and G.I. Joe/Transformers WWII) were exactly what Transformers should be. IDW's comics also live up to what Transformers should be, they even modernized the designs and retold the original story in modern day. The designs in "Infiltration" are perfectly acceptable as realistic portrayals of giant robots and they also embody everything Transformers fans love. All Bay had to do was read one of these comics (Dreamwave OR IDW) and simply copy them. I don't want Micheal Bay's interperetation of Transformers, I want TRANSFORMERS. Those who say Transformers is NOTHING MORE than "a show that basically had a terrible storyline, crap one or two episode plots, and one-dimensional characters" are very wrong. Transformers has a certain vibe, a spirit to it, that makes it great. Yes, part of it lies in the simplicity of "things that transform and go boom", but there's much more to it than that. One has only to read the reincarnations of Transformers by Dreamwave or IDW to know that. Bay has only shown signs of being untrue to the spirit of Transformers by changing everything that CAN be changed and still barely qualify it as "G1-ish". It seems like Bay is trying to do War of the World with robots rather than the story of a race of beings that are not unlike humans. If I wanted to make a new G.I. Joe movie (or any other 80's cartoon franchise for that matter) I wouldn't start by shitting on the fans and trying to appeal to the casual movie goer only.

They look too alien..? Maybe because they're fucking aliens. They shouldn't look like something humans made or are capable of right now. They should look advanced, sleek, etc.

The Decepticons are getting the more alien and monstorous forms in contrast with the more humanoid Autobots, which I like. It furthers the dichotomy beyond "I'm a car, so I'm an Autobot" (which they threw out when they introduced the Stunticons, anyway).

Wow, did you guys actually expect them to look like the 80's versions? Seriously?

I'm lolin' over here, at that. Oh man you have no idea.

So now it's a Decepticon if it has an insectoid face?

It's a Decepticon if it looks evil.

Sort of like Superman, Spiderman, and countless other comic book characters that are iconic. Yup, they should be recognizable as their classic versions. Yes I understand that Superman's "original" costume was quite different, but once he hit popularity, well his look has always become iconic, no matter how many times they have tried, and failed, to change it.

When I originally heard that they were coming out with a Transformers live action movie that was mainly based on G1, with a few borrowed elements from later series, yes, I expected the characters to be recognizable as G1 characters, simply more modernized. These fail in every respect.

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Except that Decepticons were part of the same race as Autobots. They were simply more warlike, thus the alternate forms adopted more war-related forms. These look like they are of a different race completely. Not that it really matters, since this isn't Transformers, much like Godzilla wasn't Godzilla even if they called it that.

The fact that you would compare a character as iconic as Supermanto The Transformers just makes this all the more amusing. Keep shakin' that fist!

What the fuck are you talking about the characters not being recognizable? Bumblebee's yellow. That's all I need. Optimus Prime has the mouth-piece (lol) and red and blue color scheme. You can't change that. OMG HE HAS IT.

When you say simply more modernized, I don't see how they'd get it to work without the characters looking like shit at all. The Transformers look very good now, even if they're a bit of a divergence from the '80s look (which, again, really isn't a bad deal at all).

As for the differences between Autobot and Decepticon, uh, it's kinda hard to make them look really similar when one group is called DECEPTicon. I mean fucking come on, dude, if they're gonna call themselves the Decepticons then they're probably gonna try and use fear in a visual sense as well. Why not look like a fucking evil motherfucker? Why not wake up every morning and bulk up with laser cannons, rockets, dildos, the works. You're a Decepticon and you're here to FUCK shit up and take over Cybertron for your kind. You're a war-machine.

So yeah. They'd look different, seeing as how the Autobots are all "omg sparx and all are won!!"

No, they're not just aliens. They're a race of machines that are supposed to blend in with other cultures by emmulating their technology. The whole point IS that they look like something we could build right now. It's been that way from G1 all the way through Beast Machines. Also, as I said earlier, it looks like Bay is trying to do War of the Worlds with robots instead of making Transformers. Part of Transformer's appeal is that they are not so different from us, that they have much of the same problems, personalities, motives, and emotions that we do. As opposed to a WOTW vibe where it's simply the "the other" are vastly different from us and are out to get us.

So Jaroh. Did like, Micheal Bay and his design team rape your mother or something? Because that's the only way I can see you getting so angry over what a character looks like in a movie. Yeah I'd like it a little more if they looked more blocky and less anime inspired than they do, but whatever. I can roll with the punches. I'm an adult.

Kurado is absolutely right. Despite what you want to believe, Transformers was not the magnum opus of the 80s that you're making it out to be. It was a cartoon designed to sell toys. It was a half hour long toy commercial with a movie, and too many spinoffs to count. It aired every week, and every week I'd hound my mother for a new jet/car/bus/ambulance/etc. And you know what? I loved every second of it.

It was about this group of giant fucking robots that turned into awesome shit and had awesome guns vs that group of giant fucking robots that turned into awesome shit and had awesome guns. It wasn't this huge commentary on anything, it wasn't the best written work of a generation. It was a fucking children's cartoon show.

Bay can't fuck this up. If he has giant robots that transform into different veichles blowing the shit out of each other, he's done good. If he has Peter Cullen scream "Transform and Roll Out" just once more, he's done good. If he manages to find someone with the best Chris Latta impression for Starscream, he's done good. Autobots and Decepticons fighting each other. That's all Transformers ever was, regardless of what you've built it up to be in your head.

And on account of my saying this, don't bring that "real fan" shit in. The Soundwave t-shirt I'm wearing as I type, and the Optimus Prime (Powermasters line, 1988) toy sagely overlooking me as I write this suggest otherwise. I adore the transformers. And while I do share, to an extent, some of your concerns, I by no means am angry about them. Putting flames on a truck is not a reason to not see a movie about my second (GI Joe will always be number one) favourite cartoon series as a child.

It's obvious that your passionate about the Transformers. You probably wouldn't be flying off the handle if you were a Go-bot fan. But you're not going to see this movie, because they made them look different? If you want them to look like they did in 86 go watch the animated movie.

Explain how exactly they fail? Optimus is a truck. Megatron is a tank (so they stole it from G2 because of the whole "no size changing thing. But that's an entirley different arguement, and probably one I'd agree with you on). Starscream is a jet. Bumblebee, while not a bug, is still a yellow car. Scorpinok is in it. And he's a fucking giant metal scorpion. You can't tell me that's not bad ass.

Seriously, does going from this;
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...80/Optimus.jpg
to this;
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/368...dd24405we0.jpg

really going to make THAT much of a difference. Sure, I agree, I would have liked to have seen a little more classic approach. When I first saw the designs, the first words out of my mouth (well, in my head because I was alone and I don't talk to myself) were "what the hell". But you know what, I can look past that. He's a truck, he's named Optimus Prime, he's voiced by Peter Cullen, and I get to see a live action transformers movie. That's all I need. If you want to judge a movie that you haven't seen a single frame of as being "shit" and a "terrible movie" fine. Don't give it a chance. Make a judgement on it before actually seeing it. Overreact and look foolish because they changed a character from a saturday morning cartoon. Sit home and be pissed off about it. I'll be at the theater watching Starscream rip shit up and having a great time.

You saw that Citreon commercial right? The robot Citreon is a great example of what should have happened. It looks like it's straight out of the freakin' Alternators toy line! I don't mind so much if they change stuff, but the changes implemented by Bay are way too far out from what Transformers have ever traditionally been. At least when they transform they always retain some recognizability of what their vehicle mode was. You can see how the entire front end of a car doubles as a robot's torso and the very design of the car helps you recognize and helps define each character. The new designs look to do just the opposite: differentiate the robot from the vehicle mode. This is not Transformers.

No, not really. The ones you're referring to are stand-alone characters who are cultural icons. Transformers always has a bunch of characters, none of which are at the same level of Superman. If anything, they're more comparable to X-Men, who had their costumes altered for the movies.

Again, Godzilla is a single character. There is nothing in Transformers that's consistent other than the fact that they're robots who change into other stuff.

The Citreon robots look even more flimsy and liable to blow up from a single laser shot than anything the live action movie's providing is with so far. Sure they look more 'realistic,' but they're not very fun AT ALL. I would hate to sit through a movie with boring designs like that. At least with these I get mech-on-mech cybering with every character sporting a Transformers decal.

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4486/8050001hs3.jpg > http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8...4405we0yn8.jpg

Any day of the week. G1 Prime (especially in all his 20th anniverssary figure glory) looks perfectly acceptable as realistic (for the purposes of a live action film), especially when the new design doesn't scream "this could really happen!". Will changing it make that much of a difference to casual movie goers? No. To the fans? YES. When they said G1, the image of G1 Prime instantly jumped into the minds or every Transformers fan.

Acceptable as realistic? Maybe, okay, yes. Maybe. Acceptable as anything else? No. It's outdated. It needs to be spruced up, and honestly, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the new look. I'd have a problem if Optimus Prime had a mouth and bat wings and clown feet, but he doesn't.

I think I'm posting the same thing over and over again.

Karudo, did you watch much Transformers in the 80's?

They never actually said they were making a G1 movie. They said they were making a movie that was loosely based on G1. Optimus, Megatron, Starscream, Ratchet, Scorpinok. Crash land. Earth. Transform into viechles. Fighting over energy source on earth. They didn't say that is was going to be G1 100%. Would it have been nice, well yeah. You're right, the classic Prime (and god is that 20 Anniversary figure gorgeous) is better. Shit happens, and if you really can't accept that he looks a little different in order to get a movie that you (and me) have no doubt be clamoring for since you were kids, maybe you arn't as hardcore of a fan as you think you are.

And did you just try to make an argument about realism referring to a cartoon about a truck that turns into a robot that saves the world?

God you are so right! These would look like shit in a movie!

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9...scabxf4.th.png http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/949...sbotcy4.th.png http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8...letenz2.th.png http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/190...kcarkd3.th.png http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/711...kbotqp4.th.png

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8...jeepsa7.th.png http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/192...dbotzt9.th.png http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/4959/jazzcariv5.th.png http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1599/jazzbotzy0.th.png http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/6...ecarmc0.th.png http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/216...ebotpo3.th.png

This is what I'm talking about by being modernized, but still recognizable, and in the same vein being realistic. And would it have been bad to pander a bit to the fans of the classic line that made it big?

The point is, they are changing it for no reason at all, just because they can. See, I can understand the Bumblebee can't be a VW arguement. So why not a Focus? Or a Mini? Or any sort of hatchback? I can understand the no size changing, so no Megatron as a gun or Soundwave as a tapeplayer. But having at least the robot forms not even closely resemble what a Transformer should look like, nor their heads being remotely similar on the Deceptacon side, so that they are unrecognizable except for the names...that's terrible. Why even make a Transformers movie if you're not going to appeal to the fans that made it big. Oh wait, now it's going to be an hour and a half long commercial designed to sell new toys. Nothing more.

Mabius, I think I did. I was pretty maniac-crazy about it for years. I remember crying when Optimus died in the movie. I remember hating Rodimus Prime. I remember thinking Galvatron turned into a whiny puss in the season that followed the movie.

I also remember growing the fuck up and accepting the fact that Transformers was a cartoon that, as acid mentioned, had only one objective: SELL PLASTIC AND DIE-CAST METAL TOYS TO LITTLE KIDS. The plot was simple: Autobots blew up Decepticons and vice versa while trying to keep their war hidden from humans (Decepticons less so). It was a silly plot about alien robots and whatever but I didn't care. It was fucking awesome.

I grew up and it's still awesome, but I'm not going to lynch Bay or bash a film that hasn't even been released yet because of some creative character redesigns. As long as the characters RESEMBLE the originals I could care less about anything else. It's obvious the creative team behind the movie cares about TF, as they've gone so far as to try and get original voice actors casted for the movie rather than some shoddy big name actors.

The real question is: does your mom comb you netherhairs?

And by awesome, do you mean that they now have to change everything so that it is not awesome anymore? Because that is what they are doing.

Are the redesigns creative? Sure, I won't argue that. Do they resemble anything of the Transformers other than the fact that they change from one form to another? Nope. So in effect we have giant robots who happen to change to other forms that are in no true way resembling their namesakes. It's like they went and changed Superman into an electric blue version of himself...oh wait they tried that too, and it failed.

The answer is 42.

And Acid, yes I did watch the cartoon. And it was good, if a bit simple. Truthfully, I enjoyed the original comics far more than the cartoon. More story in them, and far longer. But the characters in them grew beyond the "commercials" of the cartoon. If you ask a regular person who Optimus Prime was, they'd more than likely be able to tell you, and they'd describe him as a Red and Blue flatnose semi. If you showed them the movie picture, would they recognize that as Optimus? More than likely not.

I think what you've got going is just a personal vendetta against change. That's why you're probably typing all of this in the pants you wore in 5th grade and the underwear your mother bought for you in preschool. You're so uptight about evolution that you're probably still living in a cave, only now some people call it a INSERT BASEMENT JOKE.

Cool off, grow up, and accept the fact that what was cool in the '80s simply isn't all that rad today. Yes Optimus Prime will always be awesome, but a little redesign can't hurt. Rub your tits to sleep and relax; a chill pill is fine too.

Are you even reading my posts? There were Transformers after 1990. The only elements they shared were names, and that there were two groups of robots that change into other shit that fought each other. What makes this movie any different?

Which is why you are the one throwing around insults like the "bad ass" in grade school? Maybe you should actually try and learn what growing up really means, beyond getting older.

I don't have a vendetta against change. I am against change when there is no reason for it. What was cool in the 80's is still cool today, which is why Hasbro rereleases the classic line or updates it with new, more posable versions. That version is still the best and they know it. It makes them the most money.

Ha ha!

Here's why I don't like it: Bay isn't changing the designs just to shit on the fans, he's chaning the designs to fit with his new theme (which shits on the fans): that Transformers are these very alien things that have nothing in common with humanity and don't attempt to blend in with their technology very well. This is totally contrary to what Transformers (in all its incarnations) has been. Not to mention that in all of the new robot mode designs, you can't even tell what they're supposed to transform into until you see their vehicle mode, which is also contrary to the designs of Transformers. The vehicle modes should always heavily influence the design of the robots modes, not fail to have anything in common with them.

Other than those reasons, Prime looks unbefitting of a Prime. He looks more like Mech Warrior meets anorexic girl. Here's what makes Prime:

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5...within1uv1.jpg

Massive. Hulking. Armor. He should be large and in charge, simple blunt surfaces, parts unexposed. Not the Mr. skeleton dude that is the new design. Take the new look and put more armor around it and then maybe we've got a deal, but as it is I just don't like it as Prime. Sure, it's a cool mech, but it's not Prime. Maybe I'll grow to like it, maybe I'll grow to hate it more, but my first impression as a Transformers fan is "no dice".

They don't attempt to blend in with humanity? Is that why they transform into semi trucks, pickups, sports cars, tanks, fighter jets, police cars, and Hummers? Yeah, you don't see those around very often.

Oh, and since you brought that picture up (ahem);

That's not G1 Prime! Heathens! They changed something!

See, that was annoying wasn't it. It was stupid, carried no weight, and was generally foolish. I wonder where I picked that up from?

And your point is what? That people won't instantly recognize that as Optimus?

I don't know about you, but I'd have to be damn near retarded to not figure out who that is by this pic:

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8...4405we0yn8.jpg

How many big red/blue semi's do they have kicking around?

And if they still couldn't figure it out, they probably have little connection to the source material at all, and thus could give a shit if prime was a bumper-car.

It may not be G1 Prime, but it is the best Prime design outside of G1. The War Within Cybertronian version represents Prime perfectly.

When I said "little attempt to blend in with humanity" I was refering to the robot mode, not the vehicle mode. As I said earlier, the point is that the Transformers are supposed to look like they could be built by whatever civilization's technology they're emmulating, even in robot mode. It has always been this way. Bay changes it just to for shits and giggles in order to make the movie "his vision" and not just Transformers on the big screen. He puts too much emphases on trying to make it MICHAEL BAY TRANSFORMERS. Really it should be TRANSFORMERS (btw, directed by michael bay).

I don't remember any bad asses in grade school. I do remember the retards in college like you who couldn't let go of the past, still whining about the changes in remakes and adaptations that shouldn't be. It's called a creative license. Once somebody gets the rights to something, they have no obligation (unless noted by the original author on some special condition) to follow the original plot of the game, movie, TV show, whatever.

Really now.

Christ, you stupid fuck. Beast Wars didn't have humans and didn't take on animal forms to blend in. Beast Machines was entirely on Cybertron and didn't blend in with anything. You even shoot yourself in the foot by having War Within Prime in your post, who didn't blend in with anything. Transformers is more than G1, you fucking retard.

Hey, Alf is still cool. Really he is.

Is Terminator still cool?
Is Superman II still cool?
Is Indiana Jones still cool?
How about Aliens?
How about Full Metal Jacket?
There's also Airplane!, is that cool?

Sure not everything cool in the 80's is cool. But many things were, and still are.

Cardboard boxes that you hide in are cool because Snake does it. Cardboard boxes that are supposed to be robots aren't as cool anymore. In the late '90s and the 21st century, we learned how to SHAPE metal. Apparently the denziens of Cybertron discovered the flexibility of metal as well.

Sure it is. G1 is just the best of them all and the one that people relate the most to, that's all. If you can get past the schoolyard language you might even start to make some semi-coherent sense.

And what sense is that? WOW. In THIS episode, Starscream's working against Megatron and sided with a human scientist with the delicious frame of a malnourished woman in a labcoat! There's not that much subplot and nothing particularly groundbreaking in the G1 Transformers TV plot (the movie was and still is god, however).

I think the best storylines I'd read involving Transformers were in yaoi fan-fiction between Optimus Prime and Megatron and the work Dreamwave produced before Pat Lee murderized his own company and fucked over his crew. War Within, the G1 series and even the GI Joe versus Transformers lines were all kinds of awesome. The characters were given more depth (though not too much, so they still felt cartoony, which ain't bad) and the plots were far better than anything the original G1 show produced.

On a side note, who's to say that these new Transformers don't use some kind of cloaking technology to better conceal themselves. Oh shit, did I open a whole new window of bitchery?

So you take issue with the fact that they don't look like they could be made with earth technology. That the big robot with the gun from another planet populated by robots looking for energy for the planet populated by robots with guns doesn't look like he could realistically be made with earth technology. Alright. The idea that they have to look like current tech (which I do not recall EVER being an issue in the series) while in robot mode is moot anyways. It doesn't matter how much he looks like he was built on earth, if he's a 40 foot talking robot fighting with another, I'll fucking know he wasn't.

This whole argument is boiling down to nothing more than it's not exactly as you remember it. You're right, it's not. And you're right, I do actually like the classic design more than this new one. But by no means does the way it looks detract from the movie. The way that he looks it not going to take away from the fact that he's STILL Optimus Prime. He's going to sound the same, act the same, and still be the same robot. Just redesigned. If you won't go see the movie because of how he looks, you're not as big of a fan as you are acting to be.

Have you even watched the fucking cartoon recently? Autobots in lab coats to hide by Humans? "B.O.T."?

It's a fucking '80s cartoon. There's absolutely no character development. Beast Wars was pretty much the best Transformers ever got, if only for the fact that characters actually developed and Megatron wasn't a whiny dumbass.

This is all irrelevant to the fact that you both are pretending that nothing after 1990 happened.

Shut the fuck up and stop being a sissy.

So basically this movie will suck for big time fans of the series? Looks like I'll enjoy the movie then.

To be honest, I can live with Prime's robot mode. The flames still look ugly and unecessary IMO, but I can tolerate his bot mode as a whole. Bumblebee looks alright, although his chest area seems a little disorganised to me. Still, I can see potential for it when it gets into full motion.

Blackout looks pretty badass and I like what how they handled the rotor-blades. He does look a little junky and messy in places, but overall he looks evil and mean as hell. Also, as a non-transforming minion, Scorponok looks pretty cool.

However, I don't like Starscream's design. It looks clumsy and messy to me. I think his chest could be a lot better designed so that he didn't seem like a large diamond with legs and arms sticking out awkwardly. I think it would work better if they took some of the mass from his chest and put it towards beefing up his legs a little bit. I also don't see how splitting the cockpit on his chest is supposed to aid his transformation. It seems like a unecessary non-functional split to me just for the sake of trying to make it look more complex.

Larger image of Blackout, without a retarded watermark:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/217...8431wf8.th.jpg

And, uh,
http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum...opic.php?t=896

Megatron pictures leaked!

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2006/megatron1.jpg
http://www.aintitcool.com/images2006/megatronhead.jpg
http://www.aintitcool.com/images2006/megatronhead2.jpg
http://www.aintitcool.com/images2006/megatron2.jpg

It's very. Different. It's even a farther departure from the Optimus model (Which, I've actually grown to like a little). Still though, it's hardly going to keep me from seeing the movie.

Let people overreacting over an 80s cartoon begin!

Hmm. While it looks cool, it doesn't feel like Megatron (the head does a LITTLE bit). He's a jet, though? I was hoping he'd at least be a tank or something.

If he's actually frozen in the Arctic for half the movie or something, then that would explain why he lacks a vehicle/gun mode for now. This is the only design I have a bit of a problem with, but like Acid, I'll be one of the first nerds in line come opening.

Okay, what.

How the hell is that Megatron in any way? How the hell is that even a robot, period? It looks like something out of Halo. Isn't Megatron supposed to turn into a tank in this one?

Or maybe this is how they want him to look before he lands on earth. I guess that sort of makes sense, but still.

He's a robot alien. Why would he look like anything WE'D create.

Hm. I think the Megatron design is just too convoluted.

Good luck transforming these toys, kids!

All I can think about when looking at most of these pictures.

Robots in Disguise

You've seen him transformed, have you?

Alien Jet.

Yeah, great disguise. No one will suspect a futuristic, heavily-armed jet as a possible threat.

Because we all know that Starscream came from Cybertron looking like a fucking F-14 Tomcat. It's not like they changed their transformed appearance to match Earth veichles after they arrived here or anything.

OH WAIT

The only problem with Megatron is that he's pretty bland. There needs to be something hanging off him, like wings, or a cannon.

It's better than what Japan's offically getting.

While I agree that the Megatron design for the movie is by far the most drastic departure from any of his previous incarnations, he looks every bit alien and inhuman as he probably should, being the main antagonist. And personally, I always found his G1 design to be very bland, even for its time, so I don't mind the fresh take at all. The "battle mode" head still bears a resemblance and the rest will be up to the voice actor anyway.

dam.. i hate the loook of megatron. Maybe if the robot was not Megatron i'd say it was alright, but ugh.. I want my Tank/Gun Megatron!!

Updated set information from IGN.

Good news is Soundwave will more than likely play a big role in the sequel. Sounds sexy. However, as with any news that comes forth regarding the movie, the bitching will now commence.

Of course I'm going to bitch. I don't want to wait another 3-4 years to see how Soundwave will be handled.

Fucking right on. Transforming noise FTW. And if they get Weller to scream "Decepticons attack!" or "it's over Prime" I'll be as giddy as a schoolgirl.

mwaaw-mwaaw-mwa-mwa-mwa

Fixed.

That just screams a "I'LL SUCK YOUR COCK" photoshop.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3...sclearfxg6.jpghttp://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3...sclearbuv8.jpghttp://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8...musheadny1.jpg

He looks like he's stoned. Or constipated. My problem with it now is that these designs are really shitty. I mean, I've gotten a bit used to Prime's body, but Prime's face and Bumblebee's face and Megatron's face. They just plain suck. Really poorly designed.

How can a robot look constipated? =p

Perhaps his fuel line is blocked :V
Anyways, I have no problems with the bodies, but the heads are... yeah. Megatron is okay, he has a certain Sauron vibe going one. Bumblebee looks downright frightening. Big teddy eyes in a metal shell. Way to give me nightmare. Optimus, well it's hard judging by those small pictures, but he seems more sad or depressed than I'd picture him.

You know, I think the eyes are going to light up (yellow for autobots, red for decepticons). I'm looking at Prime's face and it does look like there should be some lights in those empty sockets.

Regardless, my problem with Prime's look is that he has too many internal parts sticking out. It's like he's unfinished or something. I'm immediately reminded of Episode I C-3PO.

I almost smiled and went "That's cool!" when I saw this, until I saw the "Revised by..." part, meaning it's a fan-made fake. Here you go:

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3...ieearthbl3.jpg


If only it were true...


Also:

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3...imusgunwq9.gif

some new shots looking surprisingly good!

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.ya...scorponok1.jpg
Scorponok

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.ya...scorponok2.jpg
Tyrese Gibson

I think it looks damn good, but only time is gonna tell how good it's gonna be, same thing for the simpsons movie

I wish there was a (at least)a 14" statue for that Prime design, that would be crazy for the ammount of articulation points.

Gatta wait and see if there is one that at least matches the design.

Hopefully the keep them looking like metal. I can imagine them going back to the editing room and decide that they need to look glossy and almost plastic.

Oh please no, it has to be a real as possible, when I used to watch the show, I thought our volvo was one!

Does anyone know what happened to that competition to have Optimus Prime say a line that your created. I remember about a month ago the one in the lead was 'Do a tumble roll' ????

Hopefully they realised it was a stupid fucking idea to generate some fan interest and did away with it. Nothing worse than Prime standing up against ten other bots and shouting the line "I LIKE BUNNIES" as he rushes in to blast them away.

official teasar trailer is up http://www.tfw2005.com/ not a whole lot to see, but looks to be pretty much what I expected, and thats not a bad thing

Ahhhh! Holy crap, that looks good.

It's funny, though.

That official trailer doesn't have them speaking, but you just know that once they do, it's going to be a lot less suspenseful.

I like how you can tell it's a Micheal Bay film just from the split second they show of a car/truck being ripped apart. Anywho, looks pretty cool. A definite summer blockbuster.

I hope this won't be one of those movies with awesome trailer, and poor film. But agreed that was sweet!

I didnt know Steven Speilberg on board aswell, so there is alot of promise in this movie.

I kept waiting for Peter Cullen to say something :(

It was a pretty decent trailer though. Scorpinok looks pretty sweet, and Starscream flying around the city looks promising.

Can't fucking wait.

Oh, that was something to wake up to. I really dig the new trailer and hope to see it on the big screen soon. The movie looks to be shaping up pretty nicely, and I'm glad that we didn't see most of the Transformers up close.

Starscream's voice actor is dead, right? God, I hope they can get somebody who can kind of pull off his trademark wailings.

Hopefully it's a black guy who constantly says "that shit was fucked up, son." Only then will it truly be a blockbuster.

Is there a downloadable link for the 1080p trailer?

Now that definitly looks awesome, next year is gonna own with Spider-Man 3 and this.

yeah... it's sitting on my FTP server in the Miscellaneous folder...

Just paid for QT Pro in order to save this trailer... so enjoy...
and working on uploading it to someplace for those not wanting to wait... gimme a bit of time though and will update with the URL


EDIT: pulling the link... for some reason I am getting all sound and no video on the copy that I burned to a cd... am needing to double-check everything later today.

1080 Transformers Trailer

always check http://www.davestrailerpage.co.uk/ to see if they have a downloadable trailer in that format :P

I have the same problem, and it's not just this trailer. All of the QT movies I've downloaded show up funny with only sound. I heard some pretty bad things about QT 7.1.3 (which is the version I'm currently using), so that could be a source of the problem.

This is a screencap I took of my player of a sample QT movie:
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/6782/blahxd2.jpg

Does yours look like that?

Very nice. Thanks for both links.

I have the exact same problem, but for me it's even worst... almost all quicktime video don't play properly and worst when I try to watch them, my computer freeze and I have to hard reset...I don't understand how some quicktime video work find and others crash my computer... it's been only about one month since this started...it's annoying because I like to go to the apple trailer site to check new movie trailers...

anyone else heard or have this problem?

I was actually having that issue when I was trying to view the trailer on my computer at work today. Was rather flabbergasted by it and thought I screwed up somewhere. But as long as it wasn't me then I don't feel so bad.

And going to also try the 1800 in WMV... hoping that I can get the QT version to work properly though.

Trailer has been updated to correct that :D... (just wait for the end...)


As a true teaser trailer, it showed good promise, but then again so do most teasers I've seen. I still don't like the way they use hunderds of moving parts when transforming, as opposed to the cartoons, but I'm getting used to it.

It probably won't be so bad, especially since at least the Decepticons are supposed to speak Cybertronian for the first bit of the movie. Which might have been the sound the military guy is speaking about at the beginning of the trailer.

Huh, that's rather weird. The streaming videos on Apple's website work fine for me; it's just the downloaded videos that don't work.

I want to revert back to 7.0.1, but there aren't any re-installers for it for Windows. If you're using a Mac, there might be one available.

Sorry for bumping an old thread, but just wanted to update the trailer previews with something a bit more feasible.

Theatrical Trailer

And just for you folks who think the original creators of the concept aren't getting excited about it (it's a dual world-wide release, yay ^-^):

Japanese Trailer

I like how they left out Optimus on this one. :tpg:

lol I like how his says michael bays Armegeddon and his War of the worlds. LOL just stick it to him, that was the only decent film he made (event horizon by far) but still thats was years ago.

Dang is there a place where I can leech the HD of the trailer, beside the Apple's page, coz I have no idea how to dl it -_-"

Hugo Weaving is the voice of Megatron.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/03/26/...-as-barricade/


http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8...0383sg9.th.jpg


"Mwaha! In moderation, a humble mechanical menace, cast most maddeningly as both murderee and murderer by the mutations of Fate. This metal mug, no mere mantle of manifestation, is a monument of the masses, now missing, misplaced. However, this magnanimous meeting of a by-gone malady, stands motivated and has made clear to master these materialistic and malevolent mobs, meticulating malignance and maintain the maddened monstrous and malignant misdemeanor of momentum. The only measure is malice; a malignancy, held as a mortgage, not miscarried, for the meter and meticulousness of such shall one day maintain the mindful and the moralistic. Most definitely, this mish-mash of maneuvers moves most magniloquent, so let me simply add that it's my very good honor to meet you, and you may call me Megatron."

wins for alliteration.

I dont mind Weaving because his voice will be digitalized to a degree anyways.

Huh. I was hoping for the guy who's been Megatron in every Transformers series since Beast Wars (as far as I know), but Hugo Weaving... He had sort of a powerful, commanding voice in LotR, so he may be able to pull it off.

Somehow I'm not surprised to see Keith David. He's in just about everything these days.

Keith David and Hugo Weaving have some really good voices so I'm looking forward to see how the use them.

So three tv spots have been seen now. Two official release, and one leaked.

I've uploaded the third tv spot: http://www.sendspace.com/file/vfaku9

I won't upload the first two, because they were official releases and you can easily find them on YouTube

The official release ones look awesome. Starscream may be "one ugly motherf*cker" (thought the Arnie/Predator line would be appropriate :p ), but at least he moves awesomely. The bot designs still look overly messy to me, but I've reconciled with that fact and am looking forward to the movie again... especially after seeing how they move.

However, the third tv spot (i.e. the leaked one) was a little disturbing. They finally showed Prime speaking, but with a weird voice and no faceplate. The lips on Prime look ridiculous to the point of distraction. I don't see why it is necessary to mess with him like that. Having lips isn't necessary to have something emote... especially lips that look as unsettling as that.

The voice is a bit of a slap in the face too. Why give fans Cullen, only to distort his voice so much that it doesn't even sound like Prime? (for those wondering, the voice from the tv spot is Cullen's voice taken down two semitones)

There are rumours that the leaked tv spot was put out their to judge the reaction it would receive. I honestly hope that this is true and they intend to just leave Prime's faceplate on. There seems to still be division in the ranks of the filmmakers as to whether the faceplate should be left on or retractable. I recall Robert Orci himself stating that he and Alex Krutzman felt that the faceplate should stay on.

Anyway, I'm still looking forward to the movie... But I wish the fucking around with Prime would stop

Yeah, I have to say that the "lips" are shit. I know some Transformers like Megatron and Ultra Magnus had human facial featues in the toys and animated series. Other Transformers like Bumblebee had human features in the series but had a mouthguard as a toy. Optimus Prime however in all incarnations even in the crap (everything after Gen 1), always had a mouthguard. In the series it moved up and down or vibrated when he spoke and was cool. While as I obviously had to open myself up to many changes for this movie I think the way Prime's lips move here is a step in the wrong direction.

As for Peter Cullen's voice well you have to underatand that all ol' Pete has being doing for the past 10 years or so is voicing Eeyore in the countless Winnie The Pooh productions. That kind of torture on the vocal chords is bound to do some permanent damage and I don't think they've altered the voice at all :p

Prime doesn't look THAT bad without the faceplate. Hell, the scene could've been taken completely out of context (remove the faceplate temporarily in an effort to humanize himself before Shia, who's clearly shitting his pants?). I do hope that he keeps the 'plate on, as it simply wouldn't look right without it.

As for his voice, who knows. It'll probably be changed or altered in the final bit, as he only slightly sounds like the Optimus we all know.

My hopes are still high: if anything, it'll be an exciting robot royal rumble.

YouTube Video

Frank Welker, the original Megatron VA, is in the game, but his voice has (obviously) aged quite a bit. Still pretty cool hearing it again.

Like it has been said before, I will go in expecting a good action robot flick, just not a Transformer movie. Other than the names, not much of what I have seen looks like what I remember from the series.

And yeah, the lips on Optimus are horrible.

What the man said.
Well, guess I expect something like new BSG compared to old BSG.
Only not quite as good as new BSG. And way more... Patriotic.

Well the old Japanese manga had Prime with a face after the faceplate gets cracked:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...u/100_1881.jpg

I liked the spot and have no problem with either Cullen's voice or the "lips" but then I don't have high expectations to begin with anyway since I wasn't a huge fan of the animated series.

heh, I think that's the first time I ever saw Frank Welker. He looks kinda like Ray from the Ghostbusters cartoon in the flesh. Yeah, it was pretty damn cool hearing those voices again. :)

I think if the lips were a bit higher set, and reduced a little so that they didn't look like bad collagen plastic surgery, I could live with them......... On OTHER transformers that is ;) ;) ;)

I honestly hope that Prime's faceplate stays. It's part of his character, and adds the air of mystery and deep hidden wisdom that he was classically renown for. I don't believe he needs lips to emote. There are numerous examples of characters with hidden faces being able to emote more than adequately. Furthermore, I don't think it's necessary to have an "unmasking" of a character in a film. I believe V for Vendetta demonstrated this perfectly.

On another note, I'm happy with what I've seen of Prime's transformation so far, and I can live with the alt-mode alt-mode (although the flames.... :p )

I was really happy when they announced that Welker would be voicing Megatron in the game. Also, from the looks of things, Activision seem to have a bit more leeway to make nods to the fans, so both Welker's and Cullen's voices should hopefully get through relatively unadulturated. Can't wait to see their other nods to the fans as well (like hidden characters, etc :D ).

I still wish that Welker could've voiced Megatron in the movie, and on one hand am disappointed at him not being chosen... Especially given that from the video on the game website he is obviously more than capable of performing the role with strength, range, and talent. On the other hand, Hugo Weaving is a good second-best, and I have faith that he will do a good job... Even if his choice was influenced by the unecessary need to have an A-list actor doing a voice-over :p


If they decide to make that the only scene with temporary removal of the faceplate, I could live with it. I'd agree that it makes sense and would fit Prime's character of showing care for the needs of other sentient beings.

However, there was a viewing some weeks ago of 30 minutes of footage from the movie to select press representatives, and all reports discussed a separate scene where Prime was not in "battle-mode" and yet still had his faceplate removed.

Prime removing his faceplate as a temporary attempt to bridge an initial gap and to try to seem less imposing to an obviously distressed human makes sense, and I fully agree with. However, Prime with his faceplate down for no other reason than to "emote" in all non-battle scenes I think detracts from his character. Prime is a leader, and a leader in his position should always be battle-ready. For him to lower his guard at any time would need to be for a significant event or reason... or at least that's how I feel :)

As for the voice, I hope that you're right. I guess it is just a leak afterall, so there may be a chance (however small) for some slight adjustment.... and it's rumoured that this was purposely "leaked" by the film-makers to get some feedback... If so, let's hope they got it ;)

Anyway, I definitely agree that it'll be a great film to see at the cinema. Will I be there on opening night? Well, let's not kid ourselves, hell yes :) But will I see it multiple times at the cinema? That depends on how much I like the movie ;) (I haven't gone for multiple cinema viewings for a 4 years... I hoping that his movie will be the one that drives me to that length :) )

In Hollywood, if you can get an A-Lister onto your project, you stand a MUCH greater chance of getting that movie made with some nice financial support from producers and other sources. While Hugo's not as big as say, Brad Pitt or hell, even Keanu Reeves, his roles as Agent Smith and that Elf guy from LOTR pushed him into the public eye enough.

This is probably why shitty movies like the 'Ocean's' keep getting made.

My God!! I think thats just something you're never supposed to see, like Judge Dredd's face... ...And, they ruined the Judge Dredd film by showing his face.

I read when the first production art was leaked before Christmas that the movie Megatron's faceplates retracted when not in "battle-mode". Ass mentioned here earlier, maybe they'll do the same from Prime?

I just hope the don't screw with the original too much. I'm no purist or anything I just like the way it was done before and I want to see it redone right.


Maybe that does make me a purist...

Yep, pretty much.
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1...headfi9yc2.jpg

Here was the Prime artwork:
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6773/prime3hg1.jpg

The head design of Megatron has been changed slightly since that image, thanks to efforts of Don Murphy (who also fought to get us Cullen's voice for Prime). What you see as "Battle-mode" in that picture is now his "Standard Mode".

I've taken some shots from the prequel comic that show what Megatron's new Battle-Mode looks like. I think it's a definite improvement ^__^


http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1...nbattleyz4.jpg

I'm not too happy about this. He looks like a mechanical monkey.

I just took a glimpse of the tv spot, and I personally have no problem with the face guard removed. Optimus in the old Beast Wars cartoons would have a moving mouth when he talked, and the face guard would only come on when he was fighting. The point being, Optimus was still Optimus, and he was just fine on that show.

The trailer didn't have the best angle either, so I see no reason to complain so much about it. I did find his voice to be very strange though, and have no idea why they did that. It's true that Cullen sounds a bit older now, but my goodness is that the best sound editing they can do with their enormous budget?

To be fair, the Beast Wars version wasn't actually Optimus Prime ;) It was Optimus Primal who was a transformer who pretty much worshiped Prime's way of leadership and so tried to model himself off Prime as much as possible.

I swear the Beast Wars plot made absolutely no sense to me. :/

I didn't even see the difference between the two for a long time..

Slight bump to this thread with some new CG shots of the Autobots and Decepticons:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...an/optimus.png
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../bumblebee.png
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...n/ironhide.png
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...orman/jazz.png
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...n/megatron.png
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...starscream.png
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...n/blackout.png

High Resolution versions available HERE

There's also supposed to be a new trailer attached with POTC3: At World's End when it opens May 25th. Here's the teaser poster also:
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5...ersver7nj7.jpg

It made little sense to me as well,but it was ok.I like how in the end



but what happened after that just sucked bug time.

Some new images from the film have cropped up online today:
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../ironhide1.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...primelips1.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...topianet10.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...utopianet8.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...utopianet6.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...utopianet5.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...utopianet3.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...utopianet4.jpg

New exclusive trailer at Yahoo!
here

The effects and action look awesome. I hope they don't fuck up on story like Spider-Man 3 or something.

Oh, great. The sound effect when they transform are right now.
Have to change my pants >=(

That does look rather good doesn't it? I hope that the story doesn't disappoint.

Requesting downloadable 1080p version of the new trailer.

I'll seconded that request

Hopefully, someday I'll have the opportunity to kick Michael Bay in the balls and scalp him. The dude needs a haircut.

Why are the words "a Michael Bay film" above the title on the movie poster... as though Michael Bay is a bigger than Transformers itself? Bay is an arrogant prick who thinks he makes good movies cause retards pay out the nose for his shitty work. The only decent thing he's ever done was the Aaron Burr milk commercial.

I've started to re-watch the original series so I can see exactly how far he's missed the mark. What's sad though is the fact that the movie will make $100M+ opening weekend just cause it's a summer blockbuster. And because of this, Michael Bay will think he's done justice to the intellectual property.

The 1986 flick had an all-star cast of voice actors including Orson Welles, but you certainly didn't see a movie poster that read, "Orson Welles in, Transformers the Movie" I hate seeing directors or actors thinking they're bigger than the movies that they work on.

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWW.

It's called marketing, dumbass. People are going to respond to movies positively (as in, throwing money at it) so long as you have big names attached to it. NAMES are MORE important than the franchise itself in many cases, especially when it comes to something like Transformers. In fact, if you don't have a big name on-board for the movie in the first place, then your shit probably won't get greenlit.

Get off your fucking nostalgia horse and recognize that.

Two warring factions of robots that change shape come to Earth. Only real difference is that the movie's sticking to ROBOT FIGHT FIGHT instead of the retarded plots that the old show came up with.

It's a '80s cartoon, not the high art that you're furiously masturbating to.

Spider-Man 3 made a shitload more money than Transformers will, and it was never marketed as "Sam Raimi's Spider-Man." Besides, since when is Michael Bay a big name? Is it really so easy to become a big name in Hollywood? All he's done is cast Ben Afleck in a few shitty movies, given us the "dynamic duo" of Will Smith and Martin Lawrence (outta be killed just for that crap) and spends 50 million minimum on explosions and special effects in every flick he's done.

I guess more than anything I don't like to see his arrogant approach to shit.

BTW, no need for the name calling Mudkips. I'd just prefer it if directors cared more about making a good movie instead of just working the marketing machine.

Damn Mudkips, you really felt upset over his post, huh?

I find this really funny. I'm not necessarily laughing with you, though.

I agree with what Meth is saying. There's no need to attach the name to the front of the poster. That's arrogant and self-congradulatory.

Well is Bay really responsible for putting the name on the poster?

Not necessarily, but that's besides the point I'm trying to make.

I think it's just uncalled for to have your name with the title unless you WROTE the original story (Frank Miller's Sin City, Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, etc.)

I know he probably didn't put the name on there himself but all things considered he has some control over these things. I'm sure it wasn't an integral part of their marketing scheme that they would have been absolutely reluctant to change, afterall.

His name is on the poster, you're upset. What you gonna do? Petition to take his name off the poster? or are you not gonna watch it?
For all I care, Micheal Bay could have his name scrawled across megatron's forehead during the movie, or they could use the cast from Harry Potter and I'd still watch it. Why? Because it's freaking giant robots kicking butt!
Face it, everyone watched transformers cartoon because it was transforming giant robots. Same goes for the movie.


btw, I lol'd
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BbK9rGhFYmQ

I swear to god, did you two call each other last night? Is this your first time watching a Hollywood-produced summer blockbuster?

http://www.bigblah.net/upload/transformerstitle.png

Oh my god look at that he's trying to be bigger than Transformers itself

Wait shit I can't even read it

I was under the impression that most directors have their names on the title of the film.

As opposed to those indy summer-blockbusters?

Even if the goal is just to be a summer blockbuster and make a shit load of money, why advertise it as "a Michael Bay film?" His name carries no weight as a director and if anything scares off those that were tricked into seeing Armageddon and Pearl Harbor with their girlfriends.

Putting an actor or director's name infront of the title of a movie usually shows that those individuals' egos are too big to commit to making something bigger than themselves. So forgive me if I prefer my actos to play characters or directors to commit to making a good movie instead of a $200M semi-sweet asshole sandwich... especially when they've got the opportunity to do something awesome.

Post of the year.

It's a world wide release. You'd be crazy not to put your name on it to make yourself known.

Further more, you'd only really want to put your name on it if you know you worked hard on it and are proud of it. Who would do a crap job then want to paste their name on it? Even if it makes $200M+ but is a bad movie, you still wouldn't want to put your name on it because if it really is that bad of a movie then it's likely the end of your career.

Also, what makes you think the producers and actors/actresses are doing a poor job? What's this all based on?? You're re-watching of the original cartoon and comparing it to 3 minutes worth of trailers? and the location of Micheal Bay's name on a freaking poster?

http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/11/3311/posters.php

Take a good look at the whole batch of posters. Only four of those actually have the words "a Michael Bay film" (in a comparatively tiny font) on it, so it's not like he's dying for the exposure.

I can't believe I have to defend the idea of directors being credited on their own movie posters. Good lord.

Have you ever watched a Michael Bay movie?

http://www.filmposters.it/imgposter/...earlharbor.jpg

Why ever trust this guy again with the funds to make a big flick?

I'm not saying that those that deserve the credit shouldn't be on their movie posters... but placing themselves before the title is arrogant in my book.

That's not arrogant, that's marketing. If I hear a movie is directed by Martin Scorcese I'm likely to watch it. If I hear it's directed by, incidentally, Michael Bay, I'll run far away.

Are you this dense? Armageddon made 550 million. Pearl Harbor made 450 million.

It's not about making quality (which Transformers never was). It's about making money.

To tell the truth, I have no freaking clue who Micheal Bay was. Even after seeing the trailers and posters for Transformers I still didn't know who Micheal Bay was until you started hating on him.

Yes, I saw Armageddon and I enjoyed it. No, I didn't see Pearl Harbor because it wasn't my type of movie, I don't like history war movies, except for Glory.

A lot of movie posters have director and/or actor names before the Movie title. Even some of the best films have them. I'm pretty sure you think some of these are good movies, no?? or are they all arrogant people?

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Again, I guess it's too much to ask for quality... Hopefully someday people will see that you can make more money with quality. I'm sick of the sellouts.

And yeah jouhou, I'm aware that this happens. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

Just saw the movie today!
First of all I didnt watch the cartoons too much back in the 80's I just knew Optimus was the good guy, and Megatron the bad.
SO far the movie was entertaining, but towards the end when they were fighting in the city streets, I had a hard time telling which was were the autobots except for bumblebbe and prime.


*SPOILER*



And why did sam thrust that cube into megatron's chest? I thought prime wanted it thrust into him?

Hell, Michael Bay might not be the next Hitchcock, but his movies usually are visually outstanding and highly entertaining, though mostly very shallow.
So far I've enjoyed every one of them. With the exception of Pearl Harbor, which should have been 2 hour shorter, leaving just the awesome attack sequence.
I'm pretty much looking foreward to Transformers... Sheesh, so many movies to see this summer... Hope I'll get to see them all. *_*

1. Michael Bay had to be convinced to take on this project, ergo, he probably wants credit for a movie he was coerced into devoting time to working on. I'm not saying that's the best idea, to allow somebody not 'into' a movie's main theme to have the main controls, but oh well. He is a major name, just like Spielberg is a major name.

2. I don't see his name in any big print on any of the posters. Have you people skimmed over Bigblah's posts? God.

3. Everything Transformers, even the animated series and the comics, is based on a TOY LINE. If you get defensive over the supposed 'true history' of something that isn't even based on a work of written fiction -- graphic or otherwise -- then you are a sad individual. Japan took Transformers and ran with it in different directions. It's like people saying Pirates of the Caribbean strayed too far from its source material :annoyed:. There's nothing to go "off the mark" on, really.

That said, I'm really looking forward to seeing this next weekend (no way I'm going on opening day). I always enjoyed Transformers, and I really don't give a crap about continuity with any other part of the 'mythos' because basically, I liked the toys. And the 80s movie.

I just came back from it. I enjoyed it, more so as a casual fan of the series and not a hardcore follower of the old cartoons. It was entertaining and kept me interested and about 75% of the audience gave it a round of applause if that says anything about the masses.

I didn't follow the cartoon either, but I knew few of the robots names like Prime, Bumblebee, Megatron, etc.

In overall, the movie was excellent and delivered what I need: mindless action, jokes, hot chick, and giant robots.

I just got back from watching it too and I gotta say... It was alright. I mean, my expectations were so low (considering that Michael Bay was at the helm) that it actually turned out a hell of a lot better than I expected. I mean, FUCK Optimus Prime looked AWESOME. Sure it had the cheesy "Bay-esque" dialogue, bad character placement (John Turturro is a cliched waste here, let me tell you) and GOD-FUCKED-ME-IN-THE-ASS-WITH-HIS-HOLY-OMNIPOTENT-COCK-HORRIBLE soundtrack featuring none other than LINKIN PARK. But aside from these oversights (albeit, rather detrimental ones) it was visually orgasmic and had great action through and through.

Really though, people... Do not walk into this movie using logic; in fact... If you're using any of that "common sense" malarkey, TURN THAT SHIT OFF. You won't need it. Trust me on this. Your brain will actually HEMORRHAGE if you start thinking about shit like:


Trust me... Logically speaking, you're just gonna have to let A LOT OF SHIT slide.

I really really liked this movie. Like, so much, I'd see it again right now.

Not perfect in any sense, but it was entertaining enough to keep me interested all the way through.

Just saw the movie last night at a secret midnight premiere (Or at least, a day earlier then when most people would see the movie) and it was awesome. The plot wasn't the greatest and as spoiler'd text has pointed out, a lot of the movie is bendy on the logic area...

Prime example (no pun intended):
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As far as the rest of the film goes, I enjoyed it a lot and I'll likely be watching it again, if not when the DVD comes out. I felt Megatron got a bit 'undercast' but he still got some good screentime as the big-bad. One thing I would have loved, and no big deal that it didn't happen was having the Beast Wars voice actor for Megatron voicing in this version, since they did get Peter Cullen after all. Why did they have to kill Jazz though? Black man always dies in the movies :(

Overall, a great sci-fi action film.

Correction. It's a great special effects film. Serenity is a great sci-fi action film.

Or maybe like how


Anyhow, it's basically the longest GM commercial ever filmed.

I bet your nose is bleeding from thinking about THAT one.

Just got back from this, and I loved it! Entertaining to the end, though corny at times (like the movies intro) but boy did it deliver on the action/SE. It was great how the trailers showed so little, cause I went into the movie with somewhat low expectations and was blown away (action/SE wise).

Something that bugged me though, is how there seemed to be a little join the US army message going on during the film (I'm sure most of you caught the scene/line I'm nudging at). Haha, and like knkwzrd said, long car commercial at times.

Oh yea....

BTW, did anyone else get clapping from the crowd at the very end of the movie too? I personally didn't it was good enough to deserve that kind of ovation.

I find it rather stupid to applause at the end of a movie. It's not like any of the crew or even cast were there to hear it.

Oh, I always get the applauding morons around here. This definitely didn't deserve it but yet... there they were. :tpg:

I just got back from this a couple hours ago. Wow, what a fun ride. There is definitely too much Transformers "lore" to fit it into a 2 hour 20 minute film and still have any action at all. There definitely were some things that didn't make sense, but they were forgivable in a film like this. Overall, I enjoyed the film yet for all the talk about Michael Bay action, I actually felt this film was lacking in action. The robot fight scenes were mostly just a blur of bullets or a blur of metal. In other words, there was really no character interaction going on during most of the action scenes. The exception would probably be during the last fight at the end of the film. The Autobots didn't really have many lines, and the Decepticons had hardly any lines at all. I guess Bumblebee was the only one the viewer was really supposed to empathize with. Which was interesting seeing as how he didn't really talk the whole film. There were just several extremely odd choices like that which the director made. I bet they were done for a reason, and like I said the film works overall, but if you take the whole of the parts rather than the sum things definitely don't add up...

You were a Firefly fan, weren't you? I've noticed that the only people who like that movie are fans of the show.

I enjoyed it pretty well. I was pretty surprised by Megatron's voice. You can't even tell it's Hugo Weaving except for maybe one line. I'm a little mad that they didn't use Frank Welker to go with Peter Cullen, since they got him for the game. But I guess Weaving was the better choice for a movie. I was disappointed in Starscream's lack of lines and development as well. I was hoping for the treacherous, backstabbing Starscream, not "I live to serve you, Megatron!"

Prime was awesome, but some parts were pretty unlike him, from what I know. For instance,

Some of the comedy bits were pretty funny, such as Ironhide wanting to shoot everything, like Sam's parents and his dog, but Bumblebee "urinating" on the FBI agent was kinda juvenile to me. I guess it's for the kids, though. They like the pee-pee jokes, don't they?

All in all, I thought it was pretty good. I'll definitely be picking up the DVD.

Right now I hate them so much for letting us Eurosluts wait another month for it. :(

One thing I necessarily don't understand about a lot of people that are judging this movie, you know, the people saying that it's a complete utter peice of trash, seem to be insulting it for the same exact reason.

That there was no story behind it. There was no plot, and if there was a plot, it was a poorly written one at that. I don't get that at all.

Yes, a movie, a book, a video game, anything that tells a story should, yes, have a plot. I agree with that statement entirely, but, if a movie has a plotline of: Giant Robots fight each other for an all powerful weapon, then why should anyone care about how deep that kind of a story is?

That'd be like asking 300 to have a plot like Gone With the Wind.

This is why I have a problem with critics, honestly. This is why I hate every film critic saying everything Quinten Tarantion comes out with are master peices. His films are alright, yes, they are enjoyable to watch, but yet every fan I've seen of Tarantino's thinks that every movie he makes is a masterpeice that deserves it's own hall of fame. Despite the fact he has horible dialogue and direction in most of his movies. But, it's not like he introduces a deep plot to any of them.

Transformers did this, but I think the dialogue was pretty spot on, despite some Autobot dialogue.

I think it's pretty laughable that people go into these kinds of movies expecting a rich, deep, though provoking polt at the end of the day. In fact, I mock them for even thinking as such. I went into this movie not wanting to see what new fancy schmancy car was coming out, I could give two fucks less. I could give two fucks less that there was product placement in the movie (Raging Mountain Dew machine FTW) in fact, this movie is about robots that assimilate machines to get around quicker. I'm sure someone would have bitched about an autobot being a printer from HP if that was in there, or Lexmark...who gives a shit.

There is only one thing that irritated me about this movie:

I thought it was very enjoyable. Yeah you really can't come at it from too much of a logical angle, but if you're looking for everything to make sense in a movie about cars turning into giant robots you probably should pass this up.

Things I'm hoping are in the sequel(s):

Woa, I haven't seen it yet and so many people are loving it and it's getting me more excited. (I'm going later today after bbq) I don't usually go to movies first week because it's always so crowded but whatever. Btw, LOL at the GFF banner. I'm guessing it's Encephalon's doing? heheh

I thought some of the comedy was way overdone, but then I guess it was geared towards kids?

I love what happened to the Gamingforce logo. (Yes I read this thread yesterday).

I'd like to add this to the list, if I could:
-A new director who actually likes the Transformers.

I went to see this last night and I couldn't stand all the Michael Bay-isms that it was loaded with. The whole "oh shit there's a lot of explosions and fighting going on, let's get some close ups of our main heroes who are also accidental lovers" thing really got old fast.

But I enjoyed the movie. It's the best summer blockbuster so far this year.
The realism in the transforming was a sight to behold, and the plot wasn't bad at all--especially when you consider typical Transformers story lines.
And amazingly Hugo Weaving did a good job voicing Megatron, even if I felt like I was watching Agent V Smithatron during some of his speaking parts. :tpg:

Because, you know, no other director in the history of filmmaking ever uses that kind of plot device, ever, never, ever.

I've only seen Armeggedon, some bits and peices of Pearl Harbor (Not my kind of movie, couldn't sit through it all) and I must be some knuckledragging, hairy apeman with no intelligence, but isn't an action movie suppose to have, you know, action, explosions?

My god, they are giant robots, why the FUCK aren't they playing connect four?

Bay shoots close ups of the bystanders (in Transfomers: Sam and Mackaylah) while all the cool stuff that's going on is being missed by the audience entirely.

Remember that part:

It's a cock tease of the cinema kind, and it annoyed the hell out of me during that fight sequence. WHATS SO FUCKING HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

I have to admit, I had pretty low expectations of the movie. I thought that they were gonna butcher the shit out of the movie but I was pretty impressed. The graphic were awesome, the storyline was alright, the ACTION WAS INTENSE!!!

Overall, i liked the movie... the ending was pretty cool and I would suggest that people stay til the credit roll for a nice little surprise..

question... All the ads said 7-4-7 but... how come it came out yesterday??? on 7-3-7

The 7/4/7 is to capitalize on the July 4th holiday. It opened on monday as a ploy to start separating patrons early from their hard earned dollars.

edit

the custom gff banner is gold.

Props to whoever did the banner.

I'm thinking Starscream will take over from Megatron, or perhaps Fuse with him, thus giving us Ultra Magnus for the climatic battle in the sequel.

DN> use spoiler tags..

but yeah, I agree with you on that..

I have a question for the people who have seen the movie. I have a brother who is youngish, he plays some Teen rated stuff with me sometimes. Is this movie scary or really violent?

For a benchmark, I drew the line at Advent Children.

Masturbation is mention in the movie; what do you think?

Overall it's not that bad for kids to see though there is violence; which is to be expected.

I just watched it with my brother today. Peter Cullen's voice is just gold - it definitely brings back memories, and if nothing else, tugs the heartstrings a little bit. I think that it set out to be a homage to the fans, a movie with lots of stuff going boom, and it accomplishes that goal very well. Most of the critics are saying that it's not cinematic gold, but that it does the job it sets out to do, which is fine.

What?

Please read.

You might be thinking of someone else there, DN.

Was anyone else surprised that the Transformers Theme didn't even make into the movie, not even the credits (stuck around to see if there were any more additional scenes after the credits themselves, none unfortunately)? Like the soundtrack came with Mutemath's cover of the theme song (which was ok, though does grow on you), but even that didn't make it in.

Since I'm on about the music, anyone else slightly disappointed by the score? I mean it sound epic a times, but there was definitely nothing memorable about it. I kinda wish Bay had hired Zimmer to score the movie instead of Jablonsky.

One thing I'm wondering about is the release date. The trailers said the 4th of July but the movie came out on the 28th over here?

Good movie, I enjoyed it. Though the close-ups and 360 turnaround of the robots transforming during the fights scenes were making me dizzy.

Yikes! Did I say Ultra Mag... Yes I did, its right there... huh.

Well... nevermind that then!

DN I think the words you are looking for is Galvatron!

Yeah, I was really expecting to hear the theme song during the end credits. When I heard Linkin Park instead I was kinda bummed out.

As far as the score itself goes, it was alright. If it had some undertones of the TF theme it would've been better IMO.

I have to give it some props for beating the animated TF movie's music though.
No Weird Al music during the fight scenes = win.

Hey I just checked out imdb.com and it has a Transformers 2 listed to come out in 2009. I saw the movie tonight and as i was sitting through the credits i said to myself, "I sure hope they make a sequel." Who do you think will reprise their roles?

Freaking amazing movie. Best theater experience I've had since Snakes on a Plane last year. <3 Best LOL scene where the theater went absolutely nuts:


Redskins. =/

Anyway, hecka fun movie, and I might be watching it again this weekend, making it the first movie I'd see twice in theaters since 2001.

Dude, That blond bitch with the fake accent was ANNOYING AS HELL (the "hacker" or whatever the fuck)

Everytime she talked I wanted to punch the person sitting next to me in the face

The jokes almost ruined it for me. They were awkwardly unfunny. The only genuinely funny sequence was the one nazpyro mentioned. Anthony Anderson was actually decent, which should tell you how low the comedy was in this movie.

I mean, the comedy bits really bogged down the movie. I was totally into the film until the whole hide the Autobots from Shia's parents scene. And then the following scene with the Sector 7 agents (especially John Turturro) simply made the movie lame. Man, these scenes sucked so bad.

Whoever wrote the dialogue for this movie is really out of touch with the mainstream public. If they wanted to be trendy and have pop-culture humor, they missed the mark. Completely.

Besides that, everything else was fine. I wasn't expecting much of the story because, seriously, Transformers never had a great plot. The GM product placement didn't bother me, but everything else did (ebay, Xbox360, etc.).

The human characters were not too bad, although I was more interested in the Army guys than Shia LeBeouf and his creepy-eyed girlfriend. I was surprised by the lack of character development of the Transformers. I mean, I wasn't expecting a deep look into their characters, but if you can't distinguish one robot from the other, why are you going to care when they die?

The action is the only reason to see this movie. It was really fun watching everything blow up on screen. I was really impressed on how fluid and lifelike everything was. Truly amazing.

This was a good movie, but it could have been better. In the sequel (which is inevitable), I hope they cut down on the comedy, or at least hire someone that knows how to write it. Maybe then we'll have a movie that is actually worth remembering.

She was hot though.

Yeah. Well I went to see it again yesterday and I actually liked it better. I knew what to expect this time around with the plot revolving around the humans living through the Transformers' civil war, not a fanservice ode to cool robots. And I think it's better all-around movie that way.

Did anyone think it's kind of weird how the Decepticons have their own little language of crazy symbols until Megatron wakes up? I wonder why they decided to switch? I mean, besides the obvious "no one wants to read subtitles during action sequences because it detracts from the action."

They're speaking Cybertronian. As to why they stopped speaking Cybertronian when Megatron is unfrozen - who knows. It was cool regardless.

I thought the score fit the source material pretty well (actually I thought it was Zimmer with all that bombast). The only thing that really bothered me was the rock soundtrack mixed in at various points. It did more to jar me out of my suspension of disbelief than all the walking robots in the world.

I was actually set to be disappointed by this move after some of the reviews, but I ended up liking it a lot more than the blatant excuse for one-liners that was Die Hard.

Not to say that Transformers didn't have one-liners too, they just had a little more camouflage on them. =p

I actually thought the humor was pretty good, given the kind of movie it was. I'll agree with you that there was too much of it, or that they intentionally dragged those scenes out for some snappy comebacks, but it's one of those blockbuster quirks. If you're shooting for a wide audience, you have to have stuff to break up the tension.

I just saw it today (went all over creation and back because it kept getting sold out) and I really enjoyed it. Out of the "summer films" I've seen so far (1408, SM3, PotC3) it was the one I liked best, hands-down. The transforming sequences were great, the voices were amazing (with the exception of Jazz, who I thought was just a little too cliched) and it moved at a brisk pace.

I went in thinking that they wouldn't show *that* much of the robots, despite the fact that they are the title of the movie, just because I assumed they would focus in on the "human aspect" of things. I really loved the eyes of the robots -- well, the designs in general, because they were very believable (if such a term can be applied here). I also liked the use of "Cybertronian" dialogue.
Of course I had some nitpicky things...like the drastic lack of Decepticon dialogue and shaky-camera fight scenes, but they're just silly complaints. I want a sequel, even though I don't, because I hatehatehate how movies are franchised so much these days.

As for the humor, I chalked it up to the whole "kids will be seeing this" angle. The Bumblebee-gastank bit and Sam's utterly pathetic/ridiculous annoying ploys to get a girl - and especially the fact that he was seemingly blind to his school social status as a loser. It just annoyed me. But I still liked Bumblebee.

Question:

Some of the jokes in the movie were not terribly funny but I couldn't help but notice some of the smaller details in the movie, such as the car freshener in Shia's car with the label "Beeotch" on it or the inscription on the police car transformer that said "to punish and enslave." But some of the internet and ebay jokes had me laughing not so much at it but rather at how awkward it all was, such as when Barricade (or was it Barricuda? that police transformer) inquired Shia by asking him to confirm his ebay user name or when asked how they learned how to talk the autobots replied that they had learned from the world wide web or from ebay.

Also apart from Megatron and Frenzy the rest of the Decepticons are rather quiet, apart when they all say "Hail Megatron" or when Starscream tells the Decepticons to move out. And even then Megatron and Frenzy come off as disappointingly dull characters, even though megatron has a few good quotes. Even with the Autobots, Prime and Bumblebee aside the rest of them might as well have not had names in the first place.



And I would also like to know...

And on a final note, albeit undoubtly well mentioned note, the transformation animations are slick, if I ever had to justify transformers being anywhere near the realm of reality I'd use this film's VFX as a basis for my argument.

I thought it was pretty terrible, but mainly because of Michael Bay. Honestly, he buries his films with increasingly more shaky camera and quick editing. I didn't understand what the hell was happening during the last 30 minutes.

Also,

Except this movie is live action and made 20 years later.

Answer:

Scorponok will be back in the sequel since they never really showed his robot form.

Wrong.

Yeah, I thought about making that connection, but then I was like, "But that happened so long ago! That couldn't have been what it was." So that's why Ratchet said..erm...when he said "...yet."

There were several things that could have been made clearer.
Okay then. Thanks.

I don't understand the people that didn't at least find this movie entertaining.

Those are usually the people that go into these sorts of movies expecting them to be bad.

That's exactly why some people didn't like it. Read through all the reviews of the critics who hated the film, and they're all criticizing the concept itself, like they thought they were going to see Shakespear. It's the same sourpuss mentality that keeps comedies from ever having a real shot at an oscar - if it's not deep and meaningful, it's crap.

I really liked this movie not being a regular viewer of the old cartoons and of course not having high expectations it was a good special effects/action movie with a simplish plot but it runs ok with it.

But the one thing that spoiled it for me were the camera angles during the fight scenes; you never got a real sense entirely of what was going on especially at the end when it was a robot on robot battle royal, also the fact that some of the robots being undercast and not being able to get a sense of their individual character was a dissapointment.

But it would be a movie I'd gladly go see again.

Really? They did a pretty poor job of that then, especially considering

Pretty shit-weak explaination on that producer's part too, actually.

I liked it a lot. Prime's voice was the best part. Got kinda tingly when he introduced himself. I wish he'd have had the old school mask, tho. The mouth was pointless and looked like ass.

When I first learned that Bumble Bee was going to be a Camaro instead of a Beetle, I was disappointed. After seeing the movie, it would've been quite lame for it to have been a Beetle. All of the swerving and drifting wouldn't have been possible or as effective. Plus, it would've looked like crap.

Transformers hitting IMAX screens, with more footage, on September 21st! Personally I thought the movie should have seen an IMAX release since day one (damn you Harry Potter!).

I wonder this'll be a new trend if this release actually sees success, eg. extended editions going IMAX a couple months after original's release.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6220

I concur.

Saw it and loved it.


Very good movie. I'd see it again, but sadly its not on DVD yet. :(