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dagget Aug 23, 2006 10:52 PM

The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian
 
The next adventure into Narnia comes out in 2008. IMDB has listed the main 4 kids coming back as well as Liam Neeson to voice Aslan.

from movies.about.com:

The Next "Narnia" Film Begins Taking Shape
It comes as no surprise that Walt Disney Pictures and Walden Media are in pre-production on "The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian," the second film of the "Narnia" series. With "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe" taking in an amazing $65 million during just its opening weekend and $637.8 million worldwide to date (just wait until it comes out on DVD, sales should be astronomical), it's a wonder the announcement of work on the second movie took two months to come out.

Fans of the first "Narnia" movie should be happy to note that most of the cast and crew from "The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe" will reunite for "Prince Caspian." Andrew Adamson will return as director and co-writer (with Christopher Markus and Steve McFeeley).

Disney expects filming of "The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian" to begin in late 2006 with the studio eyeing a Christmas 2007 release date.

In a statement issued by Walt Disney Pictures, studio chairman Dick Cook said, "We're thrilled to be working with such a great director as Andrew, and our friends at Walden Media, in bringing the next chapter of the 'Narnia' chronicles to the big screen. Moviegoers around the world were unanimous in their love and enthusiasm for 'The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe,' and 'Prince Caspian' offers lots of new thrills and adventures in this magical land. The C. S. Lewis books are a rich source of inspiration for great storytelling, and this book spotlights some wonderful new heroes, and villains, along with many of the characters we came to love so much in the first film."

Director Adamson was quoted as saying, "Making 'The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe' couldn't have been a more rewarding experience, not just in terms of creative achievement and audience response, but also because of the family we formed during production. 'Prince Caspian' not only gives me an opportunity to challenge my imagination with another classic story, it also allows me to work alongside the many talented artists who contributed to the first film, and of course to collaborate again with 'The Pevensies,' Georgie, Skandar, Anna, and William."

The Official "Prince Caspian" Synopsis
"Prince Caspian" finds the Pevensie siblings pulled back into the land of Narnia, where a thousand years have passed since they left. The children are once again enlisted to join the colorful creatures of Narnia in combating an evil villain who prevents the rightful Prince from ruling the land.


Since the first movie was pretty good, I expect no less from this one.

/begin thread. Update it whenever new information comes out. :P

VitaPup Aug 24, 2006 05:35 PM

Only you forget that Prince Caspian is the worst Narnia book. I really can't see how they could make this book into a good movie unless they change and add a lot of elements.

JazzFlight Aug 24, 2006 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by VitaPup
Only you forget that Prince Caspian is the worst Narnia book. I really can't see how they could make this book into a good movie unless they change and add a lot of elements.

Eh, at least Peter gets to have a cool duel in this one.

Well, I think this one does, it's been a while since I read the whole series, but I thought that was the most exciting part of the book.

Soluzar Aug 24, 2006 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by VitaPup
Only you forget that Prince Caspian is the worst Narnia book. I really can't see how they could make this book into a good movie unless they change and add a lot of elements.

I really can't say that I agree. I found The Last Battle to be absolutely beyond abysmal, and I wasn't a fan of A Horse and His Boy either. While I agree that Prince Caspian is no The Silver Chair or The Magician's Nephew, I'd say that it has the basis to be a decent film. Not to mention that it sets up the sequel The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, which was my favourite of all the Chronicles.

I feel that I should clarify, however, that although this is how I would rate the books in terms of relative quality, I ceased utterly to be a fan of them after having read The Last Battle, and will not be watching any of these films.

Worm Aug 26, 2006 10:54 PM

I like how Prince Caspian has some shit in it that's violent as all hell. Like the mice running around shanking people in the ankles, then skewing them when they fall down.

And I'm pretty sure there's a part where it talks about Caspian or Peter or someone chopping up some fool like crazy. Takes off the guy's legs with the frontstroke, lops off his head with the backstroke.

Considering they managed to turn the first movie into Lord of the Rings lite when the "big" battle was hardly even described in the book, it'll be interesting to see what they do with this one.

blue Aug 26, 2006 11:06 PM

I agree that Prince Caspian was the worst of the books... They just walked. For a really long time. Right? Wait, no. What is the one I'm thinking of? The one where they're walking and someone keeps spotting Aslan telling them to go a different direction but no one believes her...

But anyway, I still wasn't a huge fan of Caspian. I thought all the other books were wonderful. I especially loved The Last Battle. I thought it gave some great insight into C.S. Lewis' rather unique theology.

Ademis Aug 26, 2006 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by VitaPup
Only you forget that Prince Caspian is the worst Narnia book. I really can't see how they could make this book into a good movie unless they change and add a lot of elements.

Well they do say good books make bad movies and the same for video games. maybe they're trying to see if bad books make good movies or somethin to that effect :lolsign:

Guinness Aug 27, 2006 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ademis
Well they do say good books make bad movies and the same for video games. maybe they're trying to see if bad books make good movies or somethin to that effect :lolsign:

I suppose that's true, though I found that LotRs movie trilogy to be equally as great as the books. I thought they did a good job... like the only exception though. :rolleyes:

niki Aug 27, 2006 05:04 AM

I probably won't see it as well as I didnt see the first one, but I'm really surprised to see they're actually going to make them all. I really can't see how they can adapt it into a movie, especially considering today's action-action-action standards...

orion_mk3 Aug 27, 2006 10:09 AM

Considering the job they did on the first one, I'd say the production is in good hands. Just because PC seems to be everyone's least favorite book in the entire series (I don't read it as often as the others, for sure, and there's no beating Dawn Treader/Silver Chair for the top spot, but the Last Battle is by far the worst of the lot) doesn't mean the movie will be bad. They might have to jazz it up a little, but there's a big climactic battle in the book to be elaborated upon.

I'm also looking forward to another good HGW score for the flick :)

Vestin Aug 27, 2006 04:57 PM

I've never read any of these books. I found them all extremely boring.

The actual movie wasn't that good either, I thought.

What's so bad about this second book?

The only thing I do remember about the books, is that the Voyage of the Dawn Treader had a bad ass picture of this ship that was sailing off into the sunset (or sun rise, like the nammmmmeeee...) or something to that affect.

Intense.

blue Aug 27, 2006 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Prosthetic
I've never read any of these books. I found them all extremely boring.

I'm... really confused...

???

Vestin Aug 28, 2006 04:04 AM

I started to read them, but I lost interest very quickly, is what I'm saying.

Like I read the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe and started to read the second one, but I lost interest before getting into it.

dagget Dec 5, 2007 05:06 PM

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Cellius Dec 5, 2007 06:43 PM

So, my question is: if Christians have a right to protest and boycott The Golden Compass because of its underlying anti-religious theme, do atheists have just as legitimate a right to protest Narnia because of its underlying religious allegory?

HMMMMMMM?

YO PITTSBURGH MIKE HERE Dec 5, 2007 09:39 PM

Why would they, though? Atheists have no agenda to protect.

Cellius Dec 6, 2007 05:29 PM

Yeah but we they could say that the film is indoctrinating children with Christian philosophies, the way Christian groups say The Golden Compass is indoctrinating children with atheism.
I heard that on Fox News, my fair and balanced news source.

YO PITTSBURGH MIKE HERE Dec 6, 2007 08:49 PM

I'm of the mind that there should be no "they", that there should be no "we". A set of people who don't believe in a certain system of beliefs have no more reason to group together than do those who do not believe in Santa Claus. In essence, let what may be, be. If it is able to bring some people happiness or reassurance, who am I to say it's wrong?

Cellius Dec 6, 2007 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Capo (Post 546492)
I'm of the mind that there should be no "they", that there should be no "we".

Okay, yes. That is sort of beside my point though. I'm just calling out what I see as a double standard.

StarmanDX Dec 6, 2007 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cellius (Post 545694)
So, my question is: if Christians have a right to protest and boycott The Golden Compass because of its underlying anti-religious theme, do atheists have just as legitimate a right to protest Narnia because of its underlying religious allegory?

HMMMMMMM?

Do you really expect anyone to complain if they did? Well, I guess there's one way to find out; hurry up and tell the Pope of Atheism to organize a boycott!

Why anybody would care about someone else's reasons to see/not see any given movie is beyond me. THOU SHALT GO TO HELL UNLESS THOU SEEST EACH NARNIA MOVIE AT LEAST THRICE.

CelticWhisper Dec 7, 2007 02:45 AM

I think it's more that people are pissed off about the uproar over HDM: TGC when, at the release of the first Narnia movie, nonreligious folk were able to sit down and keep their mouths shut.

We did Christians the courtesy of not raising hell (no pun intended) over the overtly Christian "Narnia", but now they decide to raise a stink over the (perhaps not-so-) overtly atheist Golden Compass. Especially since Pullman doesn't get the bible-bashing into full steam until midway through the 2nd book, whereas "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" had the "hay guys do u think Aslan is supost 2 be Jesus cuz u no he came back from dead and stuff. Do you think." bit, and it was the first book in a longer (and better-known) series.

Bottom line, at least from HDM fans, is that "hey, your books are greater in both numbers and popularity and you've already had one decently successful film. Leave us the frell alone, we did the same for you."

As for Narnia itself, I enjoyed the first movie. Even as an atheist who found it amusing to be beat over the head with the symbolism it sported, the movie itself wasn't terrible. If nothing else it had Liam fucking Neeson: that's gotta count for something.

StarmanDX Dec 7, 2007 04:48 AM

There's not so much an uproar as a "Hey I heard this doesn't agree with our beliefs, let's not watch it." And while this isn't entirely accurate since Golden Compass doesn't have much bashing, I think they'd be pretty comfortable boycotting the entire series even if they knew that.

Yes, I imagine this will lead to some not giving it a fair chance, but ultimately that is still their decision and none of your business. On the other hand, some would say that no publicity is bad publicity. And I don't remember Narnia entirely lacking in atheist criticism when it came out, either.

"Leave us the frell alone." Technically, that's pretty much what they're doing.

I don't particularly care for either series; in fact if anything I like HDM a little more than Narnia. I just calls 'em as I sees 'em.

Sorry for derailment, perhaps these past 8 posts should be split off?

CelticWhisper Dec 8, 2007 07:03 PM

See, I didn't notice any atheist criticism of Narnia, but then I also wasn't looking very hard.

DarkLink2135 Dec 12, 2007 01:49 AM

Although religious myself, I think it's a travesty that they dulled down the more atheistic philosophies of the film (Golden Compass). Narnia was meant to have obvious Christian themes, and it did. This is meant to have a more atheistic point of view, and they dulled it down a bit to please censorship groups. I'd prefer it if the movie would have stayed truer to the books. Anyway I still plan to go see Golden Compass, and I plan on enjoying it. I love fantasy movies, even if everything since Lord of the Rings has been pretty much a re-hashing of the same sort of film style.

I just think that if you are going to make an adaptation of anything, keep it's message the same, and don't water it down because you are afraid of public criticism.

I plan on going to see Caspian as well, and I fully expect it to be chock-full of Christian philosophy.

I don't see why people can't just get past philosophies and enjoy a film, no matter what it's message or moral is. Films are meant to be entertainment, and if it's good entertainment, it makes you think some, even if it's something you may not agree with. That's no reason to be afraid of it. Organized religion really pisses me off sometimes.

AtomicDuck Dec 21, 2007 12:19 AM

Yay a new Narnia movie :D I saw the trailer and it looks quacking awesome :D :D :D

I thought the first one was easily the best movie that year and the next best fantasy movie after Return of the King, and I'm hoping Prince Caspian will be just as good :D

dagget Apr 23, 2008 06:32 AM

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Dopefish May 18, 2008 10:31 AM

Danielle, Sarah and I saw this last night and, to whit, here is a list of plot elements this movie rips off and we were forced to make fun of:

Spoiler:
  • trees that come alive and attack the bad guys (The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers)
  • dudes with really fancy masks, thick, pointed goatees and inescapably greater numbers of troops, and a botched offensive that ends on a bunch of guys being annihilated by overhead arrows (300)
  • nerdy kids wearing English school uniforms (in fairness, this has little to do with the Harry Potter books but it is worth noting anyway)
  • EAGLES (LotR: Return of the King)
  • a river comes up and washes away the bad guys, plus a separate running-away-through-the-forest,-ha-ha,-bad-guys-can't-get-past-the-river scene, during which we obligated to say, "If you want her, come and claim her!" and having PERFECT timing (LotR: The Fellowship of the Ring)
  • a group of people sandwiched by two groups of people and forced to go over a bridge when everybody in the theater knows they really shouldn't (Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom)


That's all I can think of right now. In fairness, if these movies came out before most of the more recent movies I mentioned repeatedly, I'd be saying the same about them. But these plot elements, along with the $10.25 admissions price, really distracted me from the storyline and kind of cemented in my mind that Hollywood is running out of ideas. Apparently they think (as if I'm just catching on to this) that if something is part of a franchise that is successful and popular -- and, yes Sass, I would consider $291.7M to be a successful movie -- they can just release another movie without making it very good and having it rake it hundreds of millions of dollars. Which is why I hope for the best with the new Indy movie.

As for a rating, we sat through it and it wasn't bad for a while, but when the second half of the movie came around and Lord of the Rings started playing we could only laugh at the lack of creativity. Susan Pevensie was hot (a female Legolas character in a bodice :tpg:) and she's 19 IRL so I'm not a pedophile for saying so, but
Spoiler:
the romance between her and Prince Caspian was some of the worst shit I've ever seen in my life. They speak no more than 20 words to each other through the whole movie, but their eyes do so much talking I think there should have been more blinking to simulate lips moving.
I'd say 6/10.

P.S.: I almost forgot. A few people (and by a few I mean a few) in the back of the theater started clapping, so my joke was "(while clapping) Oh God that movie was so excellent I'm about to shit an Oscar! Oh, the mouse #1 deserves an Oscar for Best Supporting Actor...here, let me shit one out!"

Shively May 21, 2008 01:12 AM

I saw this movie and must say the ammount of action by far makes up for it lacking some of the things the first one had covered..

I won't say any spoilers but this is a great movie. Some might say the christian overtones were too much but they can decide not to watch it or go watch golden compass which has anti christian / jewish / muslim overtones.



Well worth the 8.50 we were refunded due to some bad parents not keeping their kids quiet. Heres a tip movie people, put the rules in spanish !!!

Kyndig May 21, 2008 07:05 AM

Saw this Saturday and I was not terribly impressed. While the film was not overtly bad, about half way through I found myself thinking about how cool it would be if they made a movie out of Nine Princes in Amber. Still, despite my dissatisfaction the two that have been made so far I am still looking forward to The Voyage of the Dawn Treader and The Magicians Nephew, which have always been my two favourites. To date, I would have to say that I still like the BBC production of the books more.

I poked it and it made a sad sound May 21, 2008 01:49 PM

Much like Dope, I was so underwhelmed by this movie.

Of course, I should have expected that. As if The Lion, Witch and Wardrobe wasn't enough. In fairness, TL,W&W had more original ideas.

I giggled when I heard Eddie Izzard as Reepicheep, but that was the ONLY thing I seemed to enjoy about the movie.

Yes, there were all sorts of crazy similarities to other fantasy movies shoved into this, but I guess these days, it's nigh impossible to avoid.

Spoiler:
I was particularly amused by GIANT WATER JESUS that came forth from the river to gobble up people (yes, he ATE them). I couldn't stop laughing.


All in all, we ruined a few peoples' very serious film-watching, unfortunately. Some uptight bitches were all upset that we couldn't control our laughter behind us.

The guys next to us in the theater were equally as amused at the movie's lackluster originality and were laughing right alongside us the entire way.

Soooo not worth your $10.25 admission ticket.

And they wonder why people pirate.

I did read the books as a kid (all of them), and I enjoyed them. When I was 11. I think this is more of a children's movie anyways, despite the relative violence of war and battle.

speculative May 23, 2008 03:12 PM

I never read the books, but I am a fan of fantasy. I thought Prince Caspian was worse than the first film. It seemed to stumble around trying to find a point, and I never did see it make one. It sure spent a long time trying though: at one point I thought the film would be wrapping itself up but then there was another 40 minutes after that. It was a Disney film though after all... As mentioned, the film was completely derivative and lacking in any sort of originality, cannibalizing the first film and any other film the creators could apparently think of at the time...

I look forward to seeing The Golden Compass after viewing these two Narnia films. I have the first book in Pullman's series but haven't read it yet, so I'll watch the film first so it will be an apples-to-apples comparison. Seeing the films does not make me want to ever read Lewis' books...

Edit: Just saw The Golden Compass. I enjoyed it much more than the Narnia films. I didn't see the overt "atheism" theme of the film as much as I saw the overt "Christianity" theme of Prince Caspian though.


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