Hardest game(s) you've ever played
 

as for me, the hardest game i played was resident evil 4 on the ps2, then it was mgs3 snake eater on the ps2, also gta san andreas and vice city.

resident evil 4 was realy hard cuz the ammo you get is pretty low compared to the recovery items and there are so many enemies in the game that wether you like it or not, you have to fight them with guns. the number of enemies that come at you are just too many as compared to other resident evil games, in them there are only 3 or maximum 4 enemies in a room or an area and in re4 the enemies just keep coming like about 9 or 10 and those guys arent as dumb as zombies which makes it even more harder.

Most difficult game? The original Gradius was one that made me toss my controler over and over again. Resident Evil 4 was evil too, great game, but not enough ammo. Then thats followed closely by Guilty Gear XX, not the entire game, just those damned Mission Modes. Rounding out my list would probably be Duke Nukem 3D...you're just so killable.

Ikaruga, Mushihimesama, Ibara, Image Fight, Mighty Morphen Power Rangers, Battletoads, Terminator vs. Robocop, Dodonpachi Dai-Ou-Jou, Ninja Gaiden, F-Zero GX, Ghouls and Ghosts, Contra III, Gitaroo Man, IQ, Metal Slug 3~

Find me someone who's managed to complete them (1 credit for the arcade titles) and I'll show you a rare gamer.

Doom 64 was all but impossible if played on the hardest difficulty. Unfortunately, I don't remember what that was. Maybe "I Wanna Die" or something. I once played the final level on this difficulty and turned on cheats. I realized that, without invulnerability, I would have died in mere seconds.

Ultraman for the SNES. The controls make little to no sense in that game, and it did not come with a manual. Frustration ensues.

Most likely Nightmare... that's always the hardest difficulty.

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Hardest game? Probably Abadox for NES. I never got past the first level without the cheat which I still remember after like 15 years --> AA up, BB down, AB start start.

Hardest games I've ever played? Heh... NES games away!

Castlevania II: Simon's Quest - Hard hard hard game. It'd hit nightfall and creatures would be uberized. If you ever wanted to quit you'd have to copy some essay-length password. Gets lots of criticism but I'll be damned if it isn't good old-school fun. The game will tell you where to go and what to do, but about 99% of the time, the tips are HORRENDOUSLY VAGUE. Near the end you have to use some item on a crystal I think entering Dracula's Castle. It's some really expensive item and if you miss, you have to go back, work up, and buy it again.

Solomon's Key - If you've ever played this game, I don't need to expand any more. If you haven't touched it, download it. And prepare to cry.

And a Saturn goodie --
Radiant Silvergun - Beaten it legit before. Incredible game that never saw the light of day in the western world. And it was a horrid crime, as this game is stupendous as well as ridiculously hard. Bullets everywhere and only a single place on screen to hide at times.

Well, there are several that've made me frustrated, however, there was one I've never been able to complete EVER. And it would be...

...Castle Quest for the NES. Goddamnit. You play as this weird "knight" who looks more like a Muskateer and the entire point of the game is to collect keys and open doors. Everything's color-coded, so you'd know if you have the right key. However, the game is just such a bastard at giving you even relatively easy access to these keys and their doors. Enemies are near impossible to defeat, and it just SUCKS. Man, fuck that game.

most recently Ninja Gaiden.
Such a awesome engine and game but it was just too hard for me to enjoy it.

Cybernoid - The Fighting Machine by far. A pretty weird game in itself, but gameplay-wise it was basically trial and error shooting. Most of the time it felt more like error and error. I never got very far.

Other than that, Last Blade 2 is probably the hardest 2D fighting game I know, at least against the AI, who basically stops making mistakes after the second level and you have to beat it on pure skill. Every mistake you make is punished mercilessly. Harsh.

Hardest games ever?

Phalanx (SNES)
Philosoma (PS1)

Both of these space shooters are ridiculously hard, even on the easiest settings. Don't even get me going about the "funny" setting in Phalanx.

Gimmick! (FC)
The game's slippery controls make the game quite difficult. And most of the special items (needed for the good ending) are in really difficult spots.

I'm a bit weak, I guess...the hardest game that I've ever beaten was probably Goldeneye on 00 Agent difficulty. Aztec was a nightmare for me...I probably retried it at least 40 times, and I got killed on the ladder at the very end of the mission twice, which was really, REALLY annoying. Finishing that mission with literally nothing left on my life meter was probably the most satisfying moment in that game for me. At least Rare made Egypt really easy to make up for it!

The absolute hardest game I've ever played was probably Contra III, but I've never come close to beating it...I always died on the motorcycle level.

The only game in recent memory that had me throwing the controller was Devil May Cry 3. Capcom still neglected to bother fixing the camera views, which in turn allowed the often cheap enemys to take off some good chunks of energy off of you when you couldn't see them.

Ninja Gaiden was hard aswell, but a good hard. A hard that was based purely on the players skills and not the lousy camera and/or lousy controls *coughDMC3cough*.

I'd have to say Ikaruga. I've played a Gradius and R-Type before but never that extensively and dont actually own em so I'd have to go with Ikaruga since I actually have it.. Great game, but hard as hell.

I will have to say the Adventures of Cookie and Cream. Definitely not the kids game that it looks to be. First off, both you and your partner have to be good, and although the levels start out easy, the difficulty quickly escalates. Second, you need a good sense of teamwork, so if you don't work well with others and have patience, then you're screwed no matter how good you are by yourself. Third, the penalty for getting hit/falling is heavy, with a whopping 20 seconds deducted from your time each time you make a mistake. Some puzzles are terribly confusing as well with strange uses for items that wouldn't normally used in such ways. You'll need a good eye to spot these things.

Ninja Gaiden for the XBOX. Man, that was a hard game, a great game, but really really hard game. I played it on the lowest difficulty (normal) and it was still really tough. I can't imagine what 'hard' and 'very hard' are like. It took me about 31 hours to get through.

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Super Ghouls and Ghosts. You see, you have to beat it twice...which promply made me stop. I did beat Ghosts and Goblins with my brother, though. Spider-Man and X-Men: Arcade's Revenge is definitely a contender. Chakan I could only beat using the unlimited alchemy code. I couldn't get past stage 6 of Target Earth without cheating.

The only game hard enough for me to rip my hair out was F-Zero GX. From the frustratingly hard "normal" difficulty in story mode (imagine very hard) to the grand prix races with human-like AI, it was a killa.

Still managed to clock it though.

Devil May Cry 3: SE. If I have played the original version, I would probably say that, but I havent. SE is, in my mind, not all that difficult, but it's one of the hardest games I have played through in recent memory.

EDIT: Oh yeah, F-Zero GX definately tops that in terms of difficulty. The amount of precision required for some races, especially the story mode ones, is insane.

Ikaruga is only difficult to play well, same for ESPGALUDA, they're not difficult games in themselves.

For me it'd have to be Super Monkey Ball and F-Zero GX. Possible the first two R-Type games too.

I know they are impossible especially the last one(i'll give you a million dollars if you beat it). But anyway an overall hard game was Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne. I haven't even beat Thor yet. It made me mad. :aargh: :aargh:

- Ninja Gaiden Black, in easy (Ninja Dog) is a hard fuck.

And the most difficult game I've played is most likely Dinamite Headdy. It's just ARGH!!!

Ugh, Panzer Dragoon Orta...

I've only passed the first stage ONCE. And I still haven't gotten past the second stage yet. I don't know what the hell they were thinking when they were ranking difficulties... Normal Mode is insane.

Woo! Love that game...my niece and I worked through it together, and didn't have too terribly difficult a time, except for the damned fish boss, which was a painful three-hour affair.

Most difficult game I've taken down successfully...well, that's a tie between the original Ninja Gaiden and Gyruss. The former was an EXPERIENCE, and the ending was a cool payoff. The latter was just plain hard, with one of, if not THE worst endings ever.

Most difficult-to-the-point-of-broken game I've encountered would be Lunar 2: Complete. Right around the time I reached the Blue Dragon - who has high defense, nasty group-striking moves, and the ability to arbitrarily heal himself by several hundred (or is it thousand?) points every single turn - I decided life was too short to waste trying to prove myself to Victor Ireland and his HARDCORE tendencies.

The hardest game I've actually beat was Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Beatmania IIDX games can be pretty hard games on the hardest levels, they're definitely tops among music games. Ghosts 'N Goblins is another hard one I've only played a few times. Then there are some of those NES games that were made with poor controls/design that were just hard because the designers never tested anything.

Ys: The Oath in Felghana was hard for me, even on 'normal'. Yay for Japanese action platform games.

Contra and Super C....ridiculously hard...my hands were twisted into a claw after finally beating those shits'. ahh wasted youth. :cussing:

The normal US edition of Devil May Cry 3. I refused to play the game on easy mode after it was unlocked for me and I grew tired of playing the game since every mission later on took like 10 tries each. I was tempted to play the easier SE but the game just left a bad taste in my mouth. One much worse than Devil May Cry 2.

I'm going to have to agree with a couple posters before me. Ninja Gaiden for xbox was so hard for me that I threw my control at the wall several times. I think that game pissed me off more than any other game out there. However with its stunning visuals and the game play was still pretty good I kept on playing it.

Saga Frontier (PSX):No matter how high my level was, the fricking last boss (played with a blonde girl) always kept kicking my arse. Not to mention how many many many times i got lost not knowing what the hell to do next.

Battletaods for Nes is also so damn difficult. I'm not complaining, i believe thougher games are much more interesting....

Also Challenge 30 in Perfect Dark took me like a month to beat it. Some stages were pretty damn difficult to do them fast, just to unlock things...

Just finished the game on professional. It is really not that hard. Just remember that you are invincible when you are kicking or doing other melee moves.

Earthbound - When Poo is training and you have to sit there and ignore the guy who tells you to go back to the palace...it took me so long to figure that out.

Halo 2 - First level on legendary. The rest were not too bad if you were careful.

More to come as I think of them.

Funny story: At Otakon this year, there was a booth that specialized in Japanese imports and they had Oath of Felghana running. I got to play and I asked the owner if there was a save at the final boss. Long story short: With about 50 people watching, Galbalan completely thrashed me in about 30 seconds. I was supposed to hit him with some kind of spell (he was too far off to hit with the sword), but he destroyed me before I could get anything off. I just remember some people going, "Dude, you're supposed to hit him!" That was humiliating...I passed the controller to some guy who proceeded to do about as well as I did.

Hardest would probably be Ikaruga, Gradius (all), Contra 3 or Xbox Metal Slug 3 (without the ability to continue where you left off). All of those are hair-pullingly good times. Battletoads for NES gets an honorable mention for the speed bikes and so does Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1 for NES (mostly for that one corridor in the final level with the jetpack men).

There is an secret last boss for the hardest difficulty. I saw screenshots of it, it's insane.

Probably Shinobi for PS2. There's a health bar that decreases over time, enemies that hurt A LOT, tons of pit falls that lead to instant death, huge and confusing levels, and very long sequences without saves. Worst of all, if you die, you restart from the beginning of the level.

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My ARSE. This game is horrific, three lives, no continues, one hit kills, enemies NEVER STOP FLODDING THE SCREEN. Stand still and they'll just pile on in like there's a 50% off sign stuck to your back. I'd be lucky to ever make it to the first boss, who threw bottles like a madman. GOTTA TOSS THESE BOTTLES. Like, even if you're jumping and an enemy runs under your foot as you're leaping into the air, DEATH.

Super Star Wars for SNES. Once you get the lightsaber you can kick ass as long as you're careful, but with the worst platforming I've ever seen, missing ledges by half a pixel and falling to your doom and practically flying across the screen if you move even the slightest in a jump, it's easily the hardest game I've ever played. I got to the Mos Eisley Cantina and I got cocky, because I had the lightsaber and was owning, and the boss completely destroyed me. I lost my lightsaber and my gun was essentially useless, being sent back to the first power level, and the boss had unavoidable moves. I haven't played it since.

contra 3 isnt that hard, i saw someone beat it on hard mode without dying once. don't remember where i saw it but if you search youtube for contra 3 speedruns some guy managed to beat the game without killing anything but bosses without dying, pretty badass.

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DoDonPachi, only ever finished it on a single credit about twice in a good half-dozen years playing it at my local arcade.

Wow, you owe me a million dollars.

But anyway, I'd have to agree that F-Zero GX is pretty damn hard. I could never beat the Save Jody mission on very hard (my little bro did it) and I only beat the Grand Prix (story mode, very hard) because I somehow managed to knock off Black Shadow and Blood Falcon. I bought F-Zero X for the 64 recently, and that game seems even harder than GX.

I'm with those who say Ninja Gaiden. It's a gorgeous game, I know, and I'm a huge fan of Dead or Alive, but I just couldn't even get past the first boss. Took a couple of tries, and that was one try too many. I don't know if I just suck or something, but I was terrible at that game. I'm pretty glad I only borrowed it rather than bought it like I'd originally planned.

I also agree with DMC3, but I plan on giving that game another try some time in the future. I loved the first DMC, even went through Dante Must Die mode, and while I bought and hated DMC2, I'd heard enough good things about DMC3 to once again borrow it from someone. Anyway, I kept dying. But I'm really interested in playing as Vergil, so I might pick up the SE version in the future.

Currently, I'd add Trauma Center for the NDS to the list. I was pretty hyped up in getting this game after so many people recommended it to me, but it gets ridiculously hard at the end. It's not terrible or anything, just not my thing. But I'll keep my copy anyhow.

Based on the default difficulty levels, here are my current picks:

PS2 - Devil May Cry 3
Yes, just like everyone else can attest to, this game on first playthrough is crazy hard; the enemies combo you like mad and what's worse is that you gotta restart missions from the very beginning..

DS - Trauma Center
It's not so bad now, but back last year this one gave me a heck of a shock once you reach the Sin missions. It did make me much more proficient in wielding the stylus though as nothing else comes close to the difficulty shown here, including Ouendan's hard/insane mode imo.

GBA - Ghouls 'n Ghosts
Never played the originals, but this was the most frustrating experience I've ever had in a game I think. The lack of air control, the relentlessly stalking enemies, the damage system - it was all too much. The bosses were cake compared to the main levels, and I felt compelled to finish this truly old-school drama.

NES - Metroid
First time through w/o any help? Damn impossible. And the game sucks too; good ideas properly realised in the later 2d and 3d successes. Actually most NES games were bloody hard or an exercise in patience/repetition: hardest Castlevanias, Zeldas, Rockmans etc. etc.

The hardest games Ive ever played probably are from the C64, ranging from
insanely hard to impossible. To mention a few:
Impossible mission(damn right)
Cauldron 1 & 2(close to impossible)
Trolls and tribulations(extremely hard untill Level 7, impossible after level 7)

From NES:
Rad gravity(extremely hard)
TMNT was pretty hard but I finished it.
As for Metroid, w/o help I didnt think this game was very hard. Untill you'd
acquired some energy tanks, you were fine.

Probably Shinobi for PS2. There's a health bar that decreases over time, enemies that hurt A LOT, tons of pit falls that lead to instant death, huge and confusing levels, and very long sequences without saves. Worst of all, if you die, you restart from the beginning of the level.

That first boss was an absolute bitch until I found out there's a block/dodge button in the game after about twenty attempts. Then the rest of the game was like "oh, you can pretty much block everything and here's the ending sequence!"

Reading instruction manuals for the win. ;_;

I found it quite difficult, but I suck as a gamer, so that's not saying much ;) Usually I quickly lose patience with games so hard that you have to start each level countless times to finish it, and I guess I've only finished half the games I own. (Part of the other half I've finished with cheats (when available) just to see the whole thing.) If a game gives me too much trouble, I just stop playing it because I play to have fun and not to get overly frustrated. But somehow I've managed to beat Super Star Wars seven times, so it can't be too hard, it just can't.

My example for a ridiculously difficult game would be Tomb Raider III. Granted, no TR outing's ever been a piece of cake - until Legend of course -, but this one tops 'em all off. The save system alone, at least on the PSX, grants this game the title "nigh unplayable". Why didn't they release the TR games with a walkthrough instead of selling it separately? Without one you're screwed anyway. And then came Angel of Darkness which was even more difficult and much less fun, both for the wrong reasons, namely horrible controls and bugs and glitches up the wazoo. But we're not talking about games with an artificially increased difficulty because of crappy design, are we?

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I would probably say some of the hardest games of all time I have ever played have got to be:

SNES
1.) X-Men and Spiderman: Arcade's Revenge (What a hard game!!!!!!!! It gets pretty frustrating when you can pass the first level no problem, then the game takes such a dramatic turn it takes a hell of a lot of effort to pass only one of the two levels when it comes to the character select screen.)

Dreamcast
1.) Ikaruga (As someone has said before, its not passing the game that is hard, its playing the game well. Despite that, its still one of the most beautiful and most difficult space shooters of all time.)

I would say Ghouls & Ghosts for the Sega Genesis, and also Conquest of the Crystal Palace for NES. Both are of the "limited continues, no saves" form. I didn't think CotCP for NES was so extremely hard back in the day, but playing it again (I have an actual copy for my NES, one of only 5 games I have for the NES) I see now how insanely futile my attempts at beating it truly are. I even tried to beat it using emulators and save-states once, and couldn't really get past the 2nd level even using that method. The amount of enemies on-screen at one time, and the size of the bosses, is amazing. The boss-size was a definite marketing point of this game.

The hardest RPG I've ever played is Grandia Xtreme. Since beating it I have not had an RPG challenge me.

As for others, Little Nemo and To the Earth come to mind (and X-Men is somewhere up there), but there are, of course, about a hundred oldtime games that are really hard (because they're so old and I was so young).

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I totally forgot about X-Men on the Genesis. I got so far....so freaking far...but to know that it's possible to lose say...one guy each level or two...and to find out when you fight someone, he's immune to your assists and most of your attacks....you want to kill yourself.

TMNT for the NES was always hard. I don't really remember finishing the city. I think the two games remind me of each other! :p

Phantasy Star Online is damn near impossible in Ultimate mode...I don't see myself beating that until about 300 hours of gameplay into it.

...hard to remember most games though...

Shinobi - That Tengen game for the NES. Even today, I was only able to beat it using an emulator and saving every 5 seconds. Really, there's a scene where enemies come non stop from an helicopter who is a real pain in the ass.

TMNT - Also for the NES, we all know what playing that game was like.

The only game I ever got frustrated at was the first Tony Hawks pro skater for PS1. A friend and I were trying to go through it in one night when he first go it, and I just remember us almost busting his controllers on the wall because we fell at the very end of a long ass combo.

Good times....

It`s easy to find a hard game but quite a challenge to find a hard and INTERESTING because of it game. It`s not hardcore or interesting to play with disabled saving or limited number of saves, no medi-packs, increased number of enemies, etc.

But I had some real interest from Elite Doom3 (constantly decreasing health) or Mental Serious Sam (disappearing&appearing enemies) difficulties. Such a hardest game ever is not only hard, it`s novatory and interesting to play!

Ghouls and Ghosts for me. Castlevania Rondo of Blood comes close.

Since I'm not all that hardcore the hardest game I can remember playing was probably Shinobi for the PS2...fucker got frustrating.

You master the level...then get owned by the boss and have to do the whole thing again.

Oh yeah. Nothing like the unforgiving 8-bit days of 3 lives of instant-dying and no continues. They would even have Dalai Lama send controllers flying. Everything post 8-bit is for pussies ;]


Not particularly hard, but just plain idiotic and impossible for me to figure out, in order to progress. Zelda on NES: The Lost Woods and The Lost Hills. Was it hinted anywhere how one was supposed to get through that shit?

Old woman in the waterfall. "Go up, up, up the mountain ahead." Pretty sure there's a hag living in the rocks below the Lost Woods that tells you the directions for that one, too.

Now, the second quest, that was some hardcore bullshit. Invisible one-way doors? Those were infuriating even when you're trying to take it slow and draw a map. NES Game Atlas, please.

If you thought Lunar 2: Complete was hard, you would have broken multiple controllers if you ever played the Sega CD version. I remember Vic stating that it was TONED DOWN for the US version as the Japanese version of Lunar: Eternal Blue (Mega CD not, Saturn/PS1) was over three times the difficulty. (Borgan = you're his bitch in the SCD version. Gravity Bomb cheap shot FTL))

Hardest I would have to say...

Ecco the Dolphin. Seriously, is there a fucking way out of that first level? (Not really, but I just get too frustrated and stop playing after 5 minutes trying to figure how to advance)

Silhouette Mirage (PS1). The game has to start out on the hardest difficulty, you'd have 9 lives and have to beat all 5 paths (with just those 9 lives) before you can unlock the "secret options" which includes a difficulty adjuster. Me thinking you had 9 lives each play through. LOL!! Don't get me wrong, the game was fun but I could murder WD for upping the difficulty that bad.

Another WD trend would be Vanguard Bandits. Maybe it is because I'm ass at RTS games, but that game was just waaaay too difficult for my tastes. I think I made it like on the 3rd chapter or whatever and haven't picked it up since then and that's been about 10 years.

I'm pretty sure there are others that are just sadistically hard that I've played, I just recall off-hand.

LOL, GREAT. I have some ass whipping to see in Lunar EB then. ;)

And second, you CAN talk to other dolphins. One in particular leads you to the exit, after several tests by these said dolphins you should talk to. :D

On topic though... there's several games in mind that I find mind-bogglingly hard to stupidly hard.

Some of the puzzles in Professor Layton is just madding, especially that fucking camera and package puzzle. (The one that you supposedly to spend on but you only want the camera, and you had to figure out how much you should pay.)

I don't really play platformers but I did find old NES titles to be controller-beaten worthy of hard as nails platforming. I had played doubles with my brother on these games often. Double Dragon series, TMNT:Manhattan, Bad Dudes, River City Ransom, Ninja Gaiden, Mickey Mouse Escapades (fuck this game is so FUNNN), Chip n Dale and finally and not the last, Battlefuckingcementblockstoads. They just hold the shrine on hard as nails gaming. I'd blister my thumbs for these games.

Tactics, I haven't really met my match other than fucking Fire Emblem for GBA. That game wants me to cry every time I lose an unit. ;_______________;

Rpgs, lol, I cannot really say which one of these are hard other than simple grinding. Thinking about Ghaleon in Lunar:SSS having double attack chances pisses me off to no end. But that's just the final boss for you. There's a LOT of rpgs that has final bosses that has the shot at killing you. BoFIV's Fou-Lou can kill you if you don't pay attention in his second final form. Arc the Lad II's boss works the same way, they test your endurance basically, and see how long you can hold when your magic/items ran out. But these aren't hard. And then there's stupid final bosses that came out of nowhere. Like in Okage, there's that bull dude that you fight, you knew he was coming as a boss, but he was far more powerful than the final boss. He counts as a mid-way boss if anything. There's several mid-way bosses that are ridiculous in healing/max hp/strength/mp you know, the whole WORKS that would had been for the final boss! Other examples are Giacomo (sp) for Baten Kaitos, to name a few others I cannot name right now (will edit later).

But I say this though, Dragon Warrior II for nes still remains to me that unattainable "winnable" game despite of grinding for hours, I could NOT survive the trek through that fucking dungeon/castle and through the several forms of that last boss no matter how prepared I was. :sad:

Eternal Blue isn't THAT hard.

As for me? Demon's Souls, so far.

Bionic Commando, Probotector (Contra to you yanks) and Battletoads are tough as far as classics go.

As for more modern games, holy shit, Ikaruga is PUNISHING.

The hardest classic game I can remember is Iron Sword: Wizards and Warriors 2. The main reason being that the game is about as easy and painless to control as holding a king jellyfish covered in astroglide. The game had some of the most unforgiving controls and play mechanics that I can remember from way back when, and it was an exercise in futility to try and get anything done.

Some hard games:
- CastleVania I through III
- Wizards and Warriors II
- Battletoads
- Castlequest. This game, even if you had a game genie, is near madness. I talked to a friend about it recently who remembered how he'd play it all day Saturday, pause, turn his TV off, and then the next morning start up again and could never beat it.
- TMNT 1 (that stupid jump on the third level where if you miss you'd fall into water was just agrivating)

None of you people have shit on this

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Ironsword was a tough game, yeah and Contra 3 was a stone bitch on its hardest level. But even Gauntlet had levels with exits! But oh no, not Robowarrior. The problem with Robowarrior was that unless you found the Chalice - the level looped endlessly. How do you find it? You have to blow up those bushes (to find items). And how do you do that? With bombs. So basically the only way to progress through the level is blowing up bushes with a bomb of which you only have X amount of, so use them sparingly.

My grandparents got me this when they couldn't find Robocop for the NES. I hadn't heard about it - hell, I'm 28 and I don't think I've ever talked to someone whos heard of it or played it in that span of time - and gave it a spin. It was horrifying, like some kind of fever dream. New game... but you couldn't go to level two? Finite ammo? What the hell was this?

YouTube Video

Just watching the video clip makes me wince. Christ.

NES:
- Kickmaster: Just fuck'n ridiculous. And once you beat the game it says something like that the player has the option to play again on an even harder difficulty.
- Super Mario Brothers 2: I could never beat this when I was a kid. It wasn't until I was late in my teens that I finally completed the game many years later. And to think the whole game was some kind of dream of Mario's. Fuck you to Hell.
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles ~ The Arcade Game: No matter how many times I play this game either by myself or with others we can never fuck'n beat this shit. And by yourself you might as well shut the power off the system cause you ain't gonna beat the fucker.
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: It's been mentioned already. Anyone who has played this game knows the story.
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III: The Manhatten Project: Me and my brother actually got to the last boss but by that point we were as good as fuck'n dead anyway. This game is just full of bosses, mini-bosses and so many levels you'll call it quits at some point. I have no idea how anyone could do this in single player.. it's just impossible.

And to those who said Metroid, what the hell are you on about? Once you get the feel of the game it tends to get to be a piece of cake. You're just one of those guys that spent hours on end trying to bomb your way up that high wall or to get that energy bar at the beginning of the game..

Sega Genesis:
- Robocop vs. Terminator - They should have just called this one "Robocop's Ass Whupping". See Robocop get his ass whupped time and time again never to finally face off with the actual Terminator.
- X-Men: Good chance you'll never beat this game. Plus the game sucks hard. So you'll either drop this game cause you can't beat it or you'll get sick of it.
- Jurassic Park: Wow this game was just full of ways to die. Good chance you'll hear Alan Grant's "AHH!" quite a number of times while playing though. At least this one is beatable but still... you'll die way too much.
- Out of This World: I think it came out for the Gen... this game is just fuck'n ridiculous. Like the first fifteen minutes you'll want to drop this game six feet under.
- M-1 Abrams Battle Tank: Hard to follow along what's going on cause the graphics are a piece of shit. Good chance you'll get so fuck'n bored roaming the map for hours looking for a baddy. It's one of those games that you can probably beat but you just won't bother cause you're bored to Hell.

Ninja Gaiden for Xbox. I still haven't managed to get past the first boss since I bought it. It's not even fun this way :(

Shinobi for PS2 is another hard game in the same style. I remember the dogs with armor and knives in their mouths, I think you had to hit them from behind. They are vicious in packs.

Wait, what?

How can you even...

...Now you're just making shit up.

AND NOT REALIZING WHAT THE FUCK THE TOPIC IS ABOUT.

Adventures of Bayou Billy was pretty hard once you got past the first level.

As far as turnip-based games go, that's probably the hardest.

I dunno, Burnout Paradise's challenges sometimes seem harder when there's turnip related gameplay within.

Look. It doesn't have the 8-1 jump from the first installment and it doesn't have the goddamned World 8 minifortress from the third one, so the statement is so flawed that to agree with it is to be a new level of goddamned wrong.

xbox live crew whatup

Pretty sure we came to the conclusion that that shit ain't hard, Tails.

LOOK AT THIS SHIT, GUYS

*homing missile*

looooool

In all seriousness, I'm waiting for you faggots to finish the regular campaign and do the expert challenges that unlock afterward.

I DID IT, MAN UP

The first Battletoads for the NES was the toughest game I've ever played. First level was fun and was really only a quick run-through of the controls, but once you beat that level that honeymoon was over, boy. The levels seemed to last forever and the hoverbike levels are the single toughest gauntlet any gamer worth his or her salt can ever pinch through. Needless to say, I am one of the many who never beat it.

Ninja Gaiden was also a tough motherfucker to crack but at least that game was a bit more forgiving on the jumps.

Mischief Makers was a game that I actually thought was pretty difficult. See, how much of the ending you actually saw when you played through the game depended on how many gold gems you picked up in the game. I mean, sure you could plow through the entire game in a couple of sittings if you wanted to, but you'd just get a "here's a line of backstory, now go back and earn the full tale, you fuck" ending. Getting all the gems in the game was STUPID hard because some of the boss stages had them too and to earn them you had to beat the bosses without taking a single hit. I still haven't seen the complete ending for this game.

And, of course, Ikaruga. This game is harder than a Jessykins' nipples while walking blindfolded through a fish market. I've never seen the ending for this game either but I'm told that if I sink enough hours into the game I can opt for infinite continues, so this one may have hope yet.

Some games are just want you to check out the walkthroughs/hints. They could be torturous for those stubborn ones who insist on not using walkthroughs.

I feel the really tough games are those old-school 2D platformers, which no walkthrough or cheat can help you. Instant deaths (especially upon falling off a ledge / into water..I hate that!), very limited lives, having to repeat entire levels again and again, having to memorize every single encounter and behavioral pattern of the enemies..

I wonder why in those days they had to make games so punishing.
Not 'tough' as in 'challenging/exciting' but rather 'majorly painful & annoying'.

Insist on not using walkthroughs? Most of the time you didn't have that option. These games came out when nobody knew what the internet was, kids. There were no walkthroughs for games unless you waited for Nintendo Power to cover them.

People really need to stop listing this.

I've got more shmups than I've got fingers and toes I can list that make Ikaruga look like 1942: Joint Strike.

Fucking pansies.

I really didn't find Ikaruga exceedingly difficult with the exception of Chapter 4, when you're just constantly being raped from all sides by enemy fire AND enemy jets. That level is completely and utterly unforgiving, but the rest of it is pretty manageable with enough practice.

I'd go so far as to call it one of the most pristine examples of a fair but difficult challenge that was common with old school games. I don't know what people are talking about when people say old school games are inherently unfairly difficult. They aren't. If they're well-made, they're tough as nails but they're balanced, and with enough practice, the end is certainly attainable. Some of these newer old school revival titles are made too hard for their own good just so they can say "OMG OLD SCHOOL GAMING!" It's rare when a game actually nails the kind of fair difficulty that came with a well-made classic game, and Ikaruga is definitely one of them.

Einhänder was harder than this.

Monty Python's Complete Waste of Time. Eventually, you find out that there's ACTUALLY A GAME in there besides just clicking away at stuff and giggling. Probably the worst game ever for "what in the fuck am I supposed to do," even more so than some of the retarded hidden stars in Mario Sunshine that most people would never find without a walkthrough.

And let's not forget how fuck'n hard Chrono Trigger was. God, I don't think I know ANYBODY who has beaten this game. It's all just bosses and mini-bosses, and fights. So difficult. I hear that if you're good enough to beat the game TWICE there's SPECIAL SEKRIT ENDINGZ, CAN ANYONE CONFIRM?



I'm also the retard who has beaten E.T. for the Atari 2600. With all the switches turned all the way to the right!

Also, since I suck at schmups SO HARD I don't think I'll ever get past the first level of Ikaruga, so I don't know what the hell y'all are talking about "fair."

Paco's flaccid whiskey dick is harder than Ikaruga.

The one game that springs to mind for me is Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together. Not so much because it's really all that hard, rather because it is quite frustrating to have to watch your units so vigilantly, lest one of them die from a critical hit and be gone forever.

I actually beat Einhänder. Twice. I've never been able to beat Ikaruga.

"I also 1cc'd Under Defeat but couldn't even power my way through Bio-Hazard Battle".

Paco, this is a pretty huge case of you're doing it wrong.

I can give you pro-tips if you'd like. Here's one for free. "White absorbs white".

Now you will die half as often! Aren't I the nicest?

I actually beat I Wanna Be the Guy. Twice. I've never been able to beat New Super Mario Bros.

Gee! Thanks a BUNCH, mister! I'm glad you're here to tell me these things! But I gotta get going now to shine shoes at the train station so dad won't beat me for not helping with the rent. Then I'm gonna hit the paper route so I can buy some Bazooka-zooka BUBBLEGUM! Life is so much better now!

Ninja Gaiden 3 for the NES. NG1 was tough, but I stuck with it and somehow made it through. NG2 was easier thanks to the shadow clones and is by far my favorite of the trilogy, but 3...goddamn 3 was just insane. Instead of Shadow Clones, your main weapon powerup is a longer slash with your sword. I think the furthest I made it to 3 was either the end of the 2nd level or the beginning of the 3rd level, but after losing all of my lives I started using save-states over and over until I finally beat the game.

Also, for those of you saying TMNT1...I had a players guide video that helped me out back in those days (tips for beating TMNT, Metal Gear, Skate or Die, and Defender of the Crown), so I didn't suffer as much as you guys. However, this game is a piece of cake to me now and I can pretty much beat it every time by using one or no continues. I can't say I can beat it without losing a turtle, I somehow manage to make a mistake around the fourth level with the damn fiery pit in stage 14 or 15.

Exactly my point: You can beat the harder, older game but still struggle with basic color comprehension.

I remember wasting forever beating the Lost Levels without using save states on my emulator. I think that was the game that made me give up on really hard 2D platformers.

Did anyone ever play RC Stunt Copter on the PlayStation? That was simultaneously one of the hardest and most boring games ever developed. Needless to say, my mate who bought it didn't keep it very long.

Back in the day I remember being able to cut a swath of destruction through Contra III on Hard too but, you know, I'm old now. Years of drug, alcohol and pussy abuse killed my reflexes. What's YOUR excuse for not beating it now?

You've clearly never played Carnage Heart. Single disc game that came in a double disc case because half of the case was reserved for the gargantuan instruction booklet that practically required a Ph.D. to understand and it was one of the most bland-looking and boring games ever released on the system. I sold it the week I bought it and bought Bushido Blade instead.

Around 2003, I got to the final boss on the hardest level (in a two player game) and died. However, my friend then beat it. Whats YOUR excuse?

Actually you're all wrong. The hardest game ever made was the original Jet Set Willy on the Spectrum. Limited lives, one hit deaths, pixel perfect jumps required and loads of glitches that made it physically impossible to actually finish half the time. I've never met anyone who beat it and if any of you say you have, I want to see a video.

Pretty much every screen in JSW was a death trap but for me the hardest of all was the Banyan Tree:

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Bearing in mind that at the time, you had to play this using the crappy rubber keys on a Spectrum keyboard and the whole game was just insanely hard. You kids with your new fangled 8 bit games have no idea what properly difficult games were all about...

Oh. So you mean Contra.

I had those videos

and they were worthless

Only several years earlier, with more glitches and with a worse input device. Maybe you should read what other people write before making stupid comments that serve only to highlight your own ignorance? Like I already said, you kids with your new-fangled 8 bit games know nothing about real difficulty in gaming.

Um....
Plus, your friend beat the final boss for you. I used to ream through it alone.

I had no friends in high school. :(

Nigga, I got a goddamn Intellivision. Don't be hate'n on me because I'm representin' 1978 with my hot-as-fuck fake wood racing stripe and dope as all hell voice synthesis action. My shit is vintage, who the hell are you?

People like you beat their wives and play Sears Super Video Arcade. Get outta here. I control the sky.

BURGERTIME. PETER PEPPER ALL UP IN YOUR FACE. DO SOMETHIN ABOUT IT. HOW YOU GONNA ACT NOW.

That kind of logic I simply cannot argue with. :)

Protip: When you first start the game, keep fighting normal enemies until you are level 10. Then go into the castle.

Protip: Level up to level **

Protip: With Ayla, keep stealing power tabs in the Ocean Palace. Then, build your strength up to **

And no one mentioned CastleQuest?

He's joking Mortis.

Man, you're like the white version of Zerg.

Other fuck'n hard games:
A Link to the Past: I can't get past the first castle. I heard there's some button you can use to attack the guards before they bump you into those fuck'n drops.

Super Mario Bros. 2:
God, why do I have to choose between four people? I can't decide!!!!!! Is there a game?

Which isn't to say your first joke was funny. But hell, milk it for all it's worth.

S'what I do.

But............I dunno, that's all I got.

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it has to be mafia...the game was so tough that i could not avoid getting frustrated....ultimately i would ..use cheats...to advance....anyway keep posting....

please... learn how to... post like a .... real human being.... robot man... from the future.... albeit... a future where... retards have bred... a super retard... like... made up of... other... lesser... retards.

Hm... one of my hardest games is Left 4 Dead on Expert and Timeshift

Having to answer with Call of Duty 2 on Veteran difficulty probably indicates that I need to play more games.

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Super Ghouls and Ghosts (or in catchy Jap "Super Demon World Village")
Worthless controls, crazy double jumps, jumps with no visible landing point, multi-story bosses that rain fire from non-visible sources, 2 hit death max, and a main character that moves like molasses next to a host of lightning quick enemies.

First quest, godamn hard, but not impossible. Golden Armor and Magic Bow for the win. Slow going on bosses, but worth it for the levels.

But wait, there's more. To get the true ending, and fight the actual last boss, you need to complete the entire game,...again. And using a awful weapon with no magic and a range less than two character widths.

I owned this game for nearly as long as my SNES, and only beat it shortly before the PSX came out.

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A close runner up would be:

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(NES) Ninja Gaiden.

Unfortunately, it just doesn't have the uniformity of absoludicrousness. Really, the game only gets awful after you start running into the god-forsaken flying ninjas. Then its hair pulling time.

The first game that comes to my mind is MDK2, but that might just be because I played it when it was first released, and wasn't as good at games then as I am now.

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Anybody else with me?

There have been lots of games I've nodded my head to as I've lurked this thread, but MDK2 was a giant pain in the ass. Maybe a year or so ago, I picked up the PS2 version and tried to play it again and it still poses a challenge. Funny as hell, though.

That's AWESOME music there.

Hardest game that comes to mind is Zelda: The Adventure of Link for the Nes. Man that game was hard. I blame it on the weird controlls, though.

As far as hard, and not flawed games go, I found the Lolo series for the nes pretty challenging at the time. Also, the darned Kickle Cubicle

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Past the main story and having rescued the King (or princess, can't really remember), you have a whole new world ahead of you. Those damn leves were really challenging.

Also...

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oh weird, my post diappeared... o.O anyhoo.

apparantely, i need to post some reasons :D so here it goes.
SNES:
actraiser 2: lots of one kill traps and hard-to-kill enemies. lots of mini bosses with difficult mazes.

PCEngine:
echo : you have limited speed and slow ammo and fast, hard-to-kill enemies
mr heli's advenature : strangely the 2nd main boss is one of the more difficult sprites than any other bosses after. it's large, it's fast and it drains life fast
rtype : i think it can be compared to ikagura or metal slug that sometimes there are just so many things to dodge that it's not as enjoyable or ... strategic persay.


i try not to confuse with games that are not hard but just didn't finish the
the last stage.

Toss up between Metal Slug 3 and Shinobi for ps2. I never spent a GREAT deal of time with MS3 but I had to credit feed the shit out of it to get anywhere. Shinobi PS2 is hard simply because of bullshit. Entire fucking levels of bullshit and then an entire boss fight of bullshit. Level with no floors? bullshit. Last boss that will literally take you over 20 minutes to kill? Bullshit. Sword that drains health when you aren't killing shit? Bullshit. "Ayo Sega, Overworks here! Here's a new Shinobi game and it's just full of bullshit." I remember being in 10th grade and beating my fucking ps2 controller over my knee with frustration. Shinobi made me want to cut myself.

GnG is hard as fuck too. It's just one big troll on CAPCOM's part. "Hey! you beat the game? go do it again. haha Go fuck yourself, no, really. Go do it again cocksucker. We promise this time you'll ACTUALLY beat it."

Your post disappeared because it was just a list of games with no explanation or discussion and we don't like list posts here. If you could tell us exactly why you found those particular games so hard we could then all chat about it and live up to the "Interactive" part of our forums' name.

I picked up Ninja Gaiden Sigma for PS3 a while back.

I ended up selling it back to Amazon because I just couldn't get into it. It could have been really fun, but I'm just too lazy for that crap now.

I don't mind a challenging game, but I shouldn't have to fail a bunch just to learn EXACTLY how to push a button at a certain time.

I just realized this...

How has no one mentioned THIS impossible load of fucking garbage?

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I doubt any of you young people remember this. Holy fucking Shit, it makes anything you've played after 32 bit seem like a fucking joke.

Oh man, I remember that game. I could beat the first stage with Spider-Man, and I've beaten Wolverine's first stage a few times, but other than that I died pretty horribly in any other stage I tried.

Dragon Quarter. Why? I can't even get past the 1st save point. Am I doing it wrong? I have no idea. And that makes it hard.

Super Ghouls & Ghosts because Every time I'm about to land my double-jump a coffin pops up below me, meaning I'm screwed. Also, Saint Seiya because this game either runs on luck or I'm correct and there is no way to possibly block another saints cosmo :/

Holy GOD. I think I made it through one person's stage, and I don't even fucking remember whose it was. Fucking HORRIBLE, and I think I played it more than once. Rentals are fun.

It had to have been Cyclops', as I beat that one without too much effort.

Damn, that game completely slipped my mind. Maybe I temporarily repressed my memories of it, much like one represses memories of being raped as a child.

At one point, I somehow managed to beat both of Spider-Man's levels, Wolverine's, Cyclops, and by some freak accident, Gambit's first level, and motherfucking Storm's first level is what ended up killing me. WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU PUT STORM IN A SWIMMING LEVEL.

Fuck that game.

I had Spider-Man's levels totally figured out and fool-proof. Past that, it wasn't even worth my time.

I kind of want to pick it up and see if I can beat it now, but I seriously doubt it. I've probably gotten worse at games now that I'm older.

... it's based on a specific storyline from the comics; that's what happened in the comics. Doesn't make it any better, but.

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Oooooooh, I was thinking it was a special tie-in issue or a one-shot or something...

Huh. I figured it was just a bullshit level some designer thought of to make you want to kill yourself.

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lol. I own the super nintendo cartridge for arcade's revenge. I got it for my birthday. Needless to say, I was not please. I remember being able to beat Spider Man's stage, Gambit and Wolverine but nothing beyond that. Each person had 2 stages to make things worse. I distinctly remember hating Cyclops' stage.

Battletoads (NES). I couldn't beat the third level, but youtube proves there are even tougher moments later.

Crash Twinsanity (PS2). All in all this game had a moderate difficulty level, but the last stage (Ant Fortress or sth) was extremely hard in my opinion.

Bram Stoker's Dracula & Nitemare 3D (both old Wolf3D clones). The first one was a mazy mess with stupid teleporters (you go and BAM! you've been teleported to a VERY similar corridor - simply awful). I've only managed to get through the first level. The second game had quite nice theme, but hordes of enemies with the deadly accuracy and lack of health just got me - and it was just the easiest difficulty...

A lot of games are hard when played on 'hard' (what a golden thought). I usually choose the 'easy' or 'normal' to save my nerves. I like when the game is quite challenging, because it was intended to be tough. Of course I hate when the game beats me due to the bad controls, darkness, insane AI, mazes etc.