New Wii info
 

Not too long ago, IGN had an article (more of a rumor piece actually) on the Wii's price and release date. This includes production levels, the future of the Wii's guts and insider glimpses at the hardware.

According to them, their sources asked them to pull the piece in order to avoid trouble. Seems plausible, as does the price and IBM's plans to refine the hardware, possibly for a new gameboy.

http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wiiignae7.jpg

A future Nintendo handheld that plays optical disc? I don't see that happening - it's un-Nintendo like.

Not to mention that, as evidenced by the PSP, optical portable games really are shit for battery life... and Nintendo really seems to be against loading times in their games at all, and cartridges serve that purpose much better.

And, I mean, they haven't been having problems with cartridges yet in terms of storage, why should they start changing now?

Nintendo still has to match N-Gage cartridge sizes, half the size of DS carts! Maybe get them even smaller, so small you need to buy an additional Nintendo brand shrinking ray that'll shrink you down so you can put it in the slot. Pack in a limited edition Snorlax one with a Pokemon (Snap) game, one that shoots the laser from its mouth or something. Then it falls over and causes several earthquakes.

The article is back up now, but without the IBM stuff. Matt probably took it down much like when someone goes to the toilet with the entire tablecloth still tucked into their pants because that's easier than not eating dinner like a moron. 100% confirmed information, you heard it here first.

If I had this I wouldn't buy a Nintendo console. This has so many more practical uses.

Yeah? Well what if the Nintendo-brand-shrinking-ray's effects automaticaly wore off right as soon as you try to do something other than to play with or use the ultra small Nintendo handheld? What then "Mr. I see the bigger picture" ?

Whoa! Mini-update!

Went to my local EB store yesterday (don't worry, it's not an anti-EB story...FOR ONCE) and asked the girl behind the counter about switching my Zelda TP for GCN into the Wii version. While asking them if they knew anything about the release date they said they didn't have it.

However, on the contrary, I looked down on the computer screen and I'm not too sure but I think I saw a 12th of Nov 2006 or 12th of Oct 2006 release date.

Maybe it's just an guess on the release date or maybe it's Nintendo, giving everyone a release date (and hence the reason all stores have started advertising) and them silencing them with an NDA.

Food for thought ^_^.

It could be a better estimate of the date. Of course it's still subject to change. On the EB web site, it still posts November 1st as the date. I don't if it wants to conincide with the release of FFXIII (whether that's even an issue or not, I don't know). But the 12 of one of the months can either mean it comes a few weeks before a little over a week later. I'm kinda betting on "later."

Video game stores put dates into their computers as placeholders; they can be completey wrong, but they need a date in their system.

November's probably the best bet for here. And just out of random interest, does your EB have the huge Wii promo posters up? A number of them around Australia have got 'em up now, seems Nintendo Australia might be putting some effort into something for once! TRADE IN A PS2 AND TWENTY FIVE NEW RELEASE GAMES TO SAVE $300 WOW!

http://www.vooks.net/wiiebad_big.jpg

That poster is at my local EB, but it was put below the the PS3 one. Gotta love the trade in deal.

Yes, 25 f!@ken PS2 or XBOX games for a cheap Wii? WTF EB. I would've thought they would accept Cube games (since it is a Nintendo system) but apparently it'll only knock off a few bucks. Up yours EB!

But I've seen some decent advertising not only in game stores but a few Myers (Grace Bros.), K-Marts, Targets, Toys r us and even Big W.

Maybe they all have the release date but can't tell. Cause usually if EB doesn't have a date to the game they would've had TBA (I had that when I pre-ordered Zelda TP gcn way back in 2004).

Let's keep the anticipation flowing!

I mean, what do you expect.

You bring in a bunch of used games. They don't know where they've been, whether there's any flaws with them, and their only judgment is based on the amount of scratches on the disc. They don't care about "rare" games or "obsolete" games, if you don't have the money don't expect them to suffice for your four year old PS2 or xbox collection.

It's not like any person with a half a brain would do this. The PS3 is backwards compatible, so when the time comes nobody's going to be trading in their gear which can basically be played on a newer console. The Wii is the same, as is the 360. In the long run, upcoming consoles are only worth purchasing with real money. Trading in games is pointless, for multiple reasons, and even ebay would fetch you a higher price.

Wow, that poster reminds me of the 90s (when posters were terrible). :(

VVV ic ic

Hehe I remember those days when posters where terrible was were terrible

Muuushy, have you been staring at the poster for too long? :(

No but I think Nintendo sort of sent some of their PR basement noobs to design those posters

Well yeah, it's Nintendo Australia. Their idea of advertising in the past has been some fat kid holding a GBA for thirty seconds, nothing else going on. Very interesting, creative things that get consumers excited for sure! GBA and GameCube both being huge flops here is unrelated to their power of awesome advertising!

What were you expecting? No one cares about the Cube down here, except a grand total of 43 people.

That deal isn't so bad if you're willing to do some footwork.

First of all if you've got a decent collection you've probably got around 5 games or so that you just don't want or are obsolete. Predecessors to better sequels being good examples.

From there you can buy really shitty used games from video game stores. Like Madden 2004 or Fantavision. You can get those for 5 - 8 dollars. I'm almost positive it wont say the games have to be unique. So worst case scenario at this point is you're up to 160. Highest price you'll pay for a used console is $80, but you can probably get that down to $50.

So assuming you've already got 5 games you don't want, and what's above holds you can get the other 20 games and a system for $150 - $240 making your savings from $60 - $150.

I'll be taking them up on that offer.

That deal would almost be worth it for me, since I have a crapload of cheap PS2 and Xbox games (which I paid $2-$5 for each) and have absolutely no desire to play anymore and wouldn't sell for crap anywhere else. Except you have to trade in your system along with it? That sucks...badly. Why not just sell the PS2 for half the price of what the Wii will be and pony up the rest of the money? It would make sense if you can trade in your Gamecube for this deal, since it will be totally and utterly useless once the Wii is out and can play all the games the Gamecube can and more (minus a few minor things like the Gameboy player).

Nah, EB's trade in deals don't work quite like that here. You can't just go snatch up some five buck copies of like Tekken Tag or whatever, the games have to be no more than a year old and they've gotta be big name titles (no weird little new release budget games). They always fail to mention that though, they wait until you've hauled in a back breaking bag of junk to say 'naaaah'. Considering games very rarely drop in price here unless they're ancient (gotta keep the brutal rape going as long as possible), you're looking at $80 - $100 a game, so at the absolute max it'd be $2500 + a PS2 console to save $300. ='D

Oh I also forgot that prices in Australia are much higher than in America, so snatching up games that cheap wouldn't be quite as easy. If they offer that here in the states I'll call to find out if my plan would actually work. I remember Toys R Us did that when the DC came out and I went out and bough 4 copies of Quarter Back club '98. The clerk laughed as she handed me my Jeffery Bucks.

I'm not sure if you guys are taking into account different currency, but there's almost no way you could make a profit off that deal- each game you bought would have to be less than $12, and you never see them at that price- $20 seems to be the lowest they go. Even given that, your battle now is to find 25 of them. The deal is air tight.

Although I was thinking this deal would be in the states when I made my post what I typed still stands. If they do bring that deal over here and if the games don't have to be unique or new then you can get over on them. Hell I just went to EBgames' website and they have NFL2K5 for $2.99.

Are you still going to tell me the deal is "air tight"?

Wii Countdown Clocks
 

I found some information on the wiichat.com forums about a memo that was sent around UK Virgin megastores that has information about "Nintendo Wii Countdown Clocks". The memo looks real to me, but I'm not really an expert at these things. This might very well mean that Nintendo will finally release the release date to the Wii very soon, which is very good news. :D

Here's a link to the original post with a pic of the actual memo attached:
http://www.wiichat.com/latest-ninten...-tomorrow.html

We'll see ;) It's day over in the UK, so any word about these clocks would be showing up shortly.

But for all we know that could be a Word document printed out and marked up.

Who cares. Looks fake anyway.

Pretty much. Eeeeeeehhhh, more e's and h's, this can just be chucked into the current IGN Wii thread for shits and giggles. What a mess!

Head of Games

Sounds like bad engrish.

Or maybe just British engrish. :)

Anyways, regarding my earlier post, it appears that there has been some new information about that memo. From the same board
Post #25 on the thread I linked too earlier if anyone is interested.

Yeah, internet rumours on the internet suggest Nintendo will announce the launch date and other Wii related information type info at the Leipzig games convention next week.

Didn't want to start yet another Wii thread, and seeing as we don't have an official one yet ::winks at mods:: I'll post this here. http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/...tm?POE=TECISVA
Of specific interest the article lists the Wii's specs. Now I know this matches what was leaked on the net sometime ago, but this is the first time these specs have appeared someplace as official as USA Today

Wow, I completely forgot about that convention (though I shouldn't given that it's the only one that's escaped downsizing). I guess that clicks with earlier rumors about developers having Wii games on shelves relatively soon.

Will anyone mind if I edit the thread title, or is it too soon to have an official Wii thread?

I don't even think users can edit their own thread's title, so you'd have to have a mod's decision on this matter.

And now comes this from IGN http://wii.ign.com/articles/725/725645p1.html
I think the 199.99 price point is perfect. The only way the Wii should cost 249.99 in my opinion is if they bring it old school and inlude a game i.e. Wii sports.

Yeah, we'll start up an official thread when we've got a lot more concrete information and such, which shouldn't be too far away I guess. Maybe we can have a contest on who creates it, it'll have to be fancy! The winner could also get a luxury prize like an old issue of the UK's terrible '64 Magazine', it'd be worth millions (of tears).

We should have a contest and see who can make the most terrible opening post for an official Wii thread. Worst one gets to run the show for a while complete with PM/IM hotline with Infernal and I on who to ban from the thread and muck with post options. It'll be a horrible, terrible mess.

How's that sound?

Forgive me if this has already been stated, but has Nintendo confirmed if Wii will have LAN capabilities or not?

Well the gamecube could do it so I wouldn't expect any less. Will it be used a great deal? Maybe. I don't recall that many games across all platforms using it to begin with. Would make co-op gaming fun for those that can afford the setup.

Yeah it's not a very common feature but it's still nice to have. I think that the newer, inevitable versions Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart, and Mario Party would be pretty sweet if they supported LAN on Wii. Yes online is nice, but getting a bunch of people together to play such frantic games with the wiimote seems like really good times. (Especialy if you throw a little alcohol into the mix)

EA has perhaps leaked a price:

Phish 'n Tjips

Sounds rather good, though I expect a slighty higher price in Europe. I'd be extremely happy if the European price would be around $260. Mmmhh, nice and cheap. Especially if I also have to pay around $173.15 for a couple of games...

This still isn't officiially confirmed, and even if it was, it's only the Japanese retail price. :(

I'm getting kind of annoyed at this point. They really need to freaking hurry up and anounce the worldwide launch date and price point.

By the way, dunno if it's been posted but Peter Molyneux, the head honcho at Lionhead Studios doesn't seem to enjoy having fun and moving too much. Here's what he said on a French site about the Wii at Leipzig:

Translated:

"It's really tiring and much too physical for me to do these movements with the controller. You just can't keep doing that for hours; you have to move your arms, your hands, get up, etc. You just look ridiculous."

What a pompous prick.:eyebrow:

I can't stand moving while playing video games! Sometimes I remove my heart before I turn a console on because I know it'll always be moving. I've even build a machine that presses the buttons on the control pad for me, used some old dog food cans, a plastic knife and the guts of an old Mattel Speak 'n' Spell.

That reminds me of the guy who claimed to make a time-travel device out of an Etch-a-Sketch, a syringe, and orange juice.

http://wirelessdigest.typepad.com/ga...molyneux_1.jpg

"I'm controlling the game... WITH MY MIND."

You steal all my ideas :(

Big Wii news on IGN tonight?
 

"At 1:15 PST -- yes, late tonight or early tomorrow morning, depending on how you look at it -- Nintendo is holding a conference entitled "Wii Prove Our Promise." Clearly there's going to be some Wii developments."

I almost forgot that that confrence was at the end of Aug. Thats good stuff. Hopefully we can get a release date finally. Anyone heard any other rumors about what they are going to announce?

I heard Leipzig is a convention and it's good to...you know...find content there. I heard they're announcing SECRETS.

Just follow the news. Here's all that there is. They're hours away from it, and I'm sure it can be found live.

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/5196

I saw the Activision booth in that clip, I sure hope they demo COD3. :rock:

Oooh I can't wait for this! Hopefuly they'll finally anounce the freaking price point and release date!
_____

Ok, wow, that was very lame. They confirmed Battalion Wars 2 (or BWii, ha! clever!) and a sequel to Mario Strikers and that's it.

It's the power of Mattel. :tpg: Oh hey guys there's a live text update of Nintendo's conference at that Leipzig Games Convention going on right now at Eurogamer.

Mario Strikers Charged and Battalion Wars 2 have been shown so far. Oh wait, now it's over. Laffo.

I've been following the coverage here.

http://wii.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=7423

And so far it's been a big disappointment. I'm hitting the hay now, and I expect far meatier info when I wake up.

Whoops, I'll just force these two threads to have sex. The conference is over, Nintendo basically didn't reveal shit all once again. =D

Stayed up for nothing. That conference sucked worse than "Giant Enemy Crab". Hopefully there will be vidoes of the Wiimote Dancers for future ytmnd's.

Not really, Mario Strikers Charged and Battalian Wars 2 will be awesome. Looking forward to the playable impressions / vids soon.

EDIT: BOTH ARE ONLINE :D

Finally some good WiFi games announced

Who at Nintendo thought it would be a great marketing strategy to hide the price and release date for this long?

If they want to keep the "hype" of the Wii from E3, they should not rely on this artificial secrecy that they are trying to surround the system and force down our throats.

Well I didn't think they'd reveal the price or release date but I figured they'd reveal more than Strikers and Batallion Wars Wii upgrades and Elebits multiplayer. Really, I was expecting a new franchise, or virtual console info, or their web interface, or interface, details of something, anything. I was really hoping for a showing from Capcom, Namco, and Square as my max to be honest. But since it is a German convention I suppose it's not worth their time.

With a title of "Wii prove our promise" this was a biiig let down. They better show something BIG at the press party with Reggie early September to make up for this garbage. Hopefully something else surfaces today but really they needed something extra today.

The interface can't be that integral to being kept a secret up until now, can it? I mean they have about 2 months to go. This is really starting to get to fans that have been following this for so long. I know I'm not the only one.

The main thing that irked me about the press conference was the whole deal about "hay guyz we made a pink DSLite for girls." - It's just another colour, not something to get all that worked up about. I was half expecting them to start parading around goths for the black DS or something, if you want to get that stereotypical.

Looks like Cnet has the answers we've been looking for http://reviews.cnet.com/4531-10921_7-6630549.html nothing is confirmed as of yet but it looks like Nintendo has some shindig planned for Sept 14 in New York with Reggie at the helm. This looks like the real deal to hold off info passed the 14th would just be crazy.

While the conference was going on last night, I was debating with someone on what would be the ultimate mastubatory announcement Nintendo could ever make.

So we decided on Chrono Break for the Wii. A Chrono announcement would cause a huge ruckus no matter what system, but putting it on the Wii would be the ultimate cluster bomb of fanboy ecstacy.

Just caught the Mario Strikers sequel clip over at IGN and it looks exactly the same as the original. :doh: I was also hoping the gameplay would be tweaked a bit because the first felt a bit rushed. I can already see a few newbs playing online aiming for the power-up goals every other second. :argue:

Hopefully they'll reveal everything we ever wanted to know at Sep. 14th. Seriously, I'm looking for price point, release date, packaging info, etc. It needs to be a giant Wii extravaganza!

If they hold off on the real info past Sep 14th, then I think i'm gonna lose interest all together in the console.

Would you quit whining about the price point and release date?

Christ, we've waited so long for scraps of info. I'm ready to just wait and see what they offer. You'd preserve your sanity if you do the same

The release date isn't gonna be any earlier if they announce it earlier.
Mmm crusty dead RPG franchise for innovative new system, what a great combination.

You have to admit it's kind of frustrating to have almost no new info given at these conferences. Especially when they go on and name their show something that sounds so promising. Shrouding the console in secrecy is hype building and all, but there comes a point where it starts getting annoying, and they're getting close to it.

All set for whatever. Can't pass up a free game!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13...iggintruck.jpg

The girl behind the counter said it'll probably be good for any game at launch. Probably being the mystery word! Now all I need is for Nintendo to confirm EXCITE TRUCK as a launch title, because EXCITE TRUCK is about BIG DAMN TRUCKS.

That's pretty freaking awsome. I've never really heared of a deal like this before. I could only hope that they'll do something like this in the states.

Zelda, of course.

Are they passing that coupon around right now?

They just had a pile of them in-store underneath a TV that was constantly looping the Smash Bros. Brawl trailer. Must drive the staff insane! Maybe Toys R Us will extend this offer to America, dunnno! =o

Preordered under that offer back in June. Toys R Us are generally good peeples, so I doubt they'd restrict the free title to something like Wii sports- or even worse, a non Wii game.

More Wii news...unfortunately it's very bad news this time:

http://wii.ign.com/articles/728/728041p1.html

So basically...no online games until mid-to-late 2007 (at least from third parties). This also means no online Red Steel, Call of Duty 3, and probably even Crystal Chronicles. Disappointing...to say the very least.

If it's anything like the DS, nobody will be playing third party games onrrrriiiine anyway. ;__;

"I think I'll search for someone to verse in Tony Hawk DS!"
"SEARCHING, PLZ WAIT"
"Ooh"
"SEEEEEEEARCHIIIING, ... PLZ WAIT"
"Ooh!"
"NOBODY ELSE IN THE WORLD OWNS THIS GAME YOU LOSER"
".. ooh"

Wow.

I... can't believe that.

That's such a profound, unbelievable level of failure that it actually makes me not even want a Wii anymore.

Can you even name five 3rd party games that will be released before early 2007 that would even be worthwhile in online play?

Even though it was capable of online play out of the box, the DS had to wait a lot longer than just a few months before it got any online games. Who is even buying a Wii for anything online aside from Smash Bros, anyway? (Don't worry, Excite Truck is by Nintendo anyway, so if it's meant to have online play, it will. ;))

Well I named 3 in my original post, and the article linked to a Tony Hawk Downhill Jam article, so...

How many handhelds are known for their online play? It isn't like online is just some minor feature that's just NOW being added to consoles. And the best online games I played were third party games...I honestly wouldn't give a crap about online Nintendo games on the Wii if games such as Call of Duty 3, Tokyo Xtreme Racer 4, or even Monster Hunter (god I sunk a lot of hours into that game) were online for the system.

Honestly, I'm still hoping this is just some kind of misunderstanding between IGN and the developers they talked to. It's just inconcievable that a new console wouldn't have any online third party games at launch when that console is coming out a year after the Xbox 360. I mean really...the PS2 Call of Duty games had online play, but Call of Duty 3 on the Wii won't? Whyyyyyyyyyyy?

I bet money they want Brawl to be first in the online extravaganza, thusly it won't get hogged by any third parties in the spotlight.

That doesn't stop them from being bastards though.

As badly as I want a Wii, I think everything about their online plans is going to disappoint.

- WraithTwo -

NWFC is really awesome. It could do a little better at preventing things like people quitting out of an unwinnable match, but then again I've only played Mario Kart online. Since Wii is Nintendo's second crack at it, it should be vastly improved.

The only disappointing thing is this no-online-games-for-half-a-year bullshit. I don't even care about online games that much. It's just a retarded move that only hurts them.

Well, it sounds like Nintendo hasn't had time to work over the Wifi system and finalized it yet. So it looks like they're going to go ahead and release the console so everybody can have a taste first while they quickly finish up the Wi-Fi system. The Wii's strong point is not the online play (if that's what you were looking for, go X-Box 360, arguably the best online system, maybe behind PC). If you're going to buy a Wii and focus on online play, you'd be better off buying it when online play is setup and good to go. Besides, there'll be more games out by that time which actually are worth going online.

The price point doesn't matter anymore. Everyone already knows it'll be cheaper than it's competition and under $300, and that's all that matters to most people.

No online 'til next year from third parties sounds like bad news. I'm sure they have their reasons, such as making sure any problems that crop up during online gaming will be stamped out before the third party games are released, and such. But, I'd assume they'd have most of those problems handled before launch.

That's pretty weird, but it doesn't change much. Outside of Crystal Chronicles, which may not even be available at launch, I haven't seen that many (or any) interesting online games set to be released this year anyway.

*Steers in a different direction*

System 3 has really taken a liking to the Wii. Both Gottlieb Pinball Classics and Leaderboard Golf will be released in November (in PAL territories), more than likely just rushed PS2 ports. But now they've announced 2D remakes of California Games and Impossible Mission for the Wii (both also appearing on PSP and DS).

Best part is California Games will also include SUMMER GAMES AND WINTER GAMES. Best multiplayer game confirmed forever.
internets.

Also Play It!, a hilariously low budget publisher has Super Fruitfall listed as an upcoming Wii game. A PAL only release for PS2 a while ago, you basically rotate mazes to get stuff to fall on fruit. The sort of thing you'd expect to find on a dodgy spyware infested Flash game site. It was like $15 new. See guys, I always bring you the most exciting news ever!

PAL regions always get the best games ::cry::

Remember guys with the exception of 360, every console released made it's owners wait a while before a successful online component really kicked in. It's normal. Even though it's kind of a let down to know that Red Steel, Crystal Chronicals, and Super Monkey Ball won't have online capabilities, above all, I'm just glad that Super Smash won't be affected by this issue.

I'm not even an avid online gamer anyway, so even though it was a nice extra feature to have right away, it's not that big of an issue. I guess this mostly hurts fans of sports and racing games...

Actually, that may be why Smash Bros. was pushed back until 2007? Just guessing. I personally don't mind the lack of wifi as I find it much more fun playing with physical people next to me.

So is there any conclusive evidence whether this "no third parties getting wifi stuffs" thing affects the downloadable content part of the Wii? Cause that's the part I'm really interested in online-wise: small teams making fun games on the Wii could be pretty awesome.

Assuming it'll have something like that...

I'm buying the Wii with the hope of Crystal Chronicles being online.

I have no peticular "OMG ORGASM" online desires...but in general, it's nice to have it in general. They may still be working the VC and ensuring it's working properly. As much as I'd love to play you guys online with Battletoads, things can just wait. :p

You can't spell ignorance without IGN. Take all this negative news with a grain of salt before flipping out. If I remember correctly, they said that they would unveil the release date and price last week at LGC too.

IGN's all about writing "confirmed" reports.......and at the end, quoting someone from Nintendo in regards to it being speculation. I wish though that anything that's regarding "new news" about this console...comes from ONE site.

www.nintendo.com

I'm pretty sure that'll be delayed until everything online is ready. If it ever comes out, FFCC DS was supposed to exist by now but we don't even have any info. Square are the slowest developer of all time.

You forgot about Rare.

It's not really a problem that games don't have an online mode when they are released: Don't forget about WiiConnect24. It'll be easy to implement one long after the game came out.

That honour goes to 3D Realms. No explanation needed.

here's the first images of FFCC: Ring of Fates for the DS
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...crof-multi.jpg

and a short & a little longer trailer of the DS game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGZ17Ito4a0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7DyOCPXvZc&NR

here's the Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles -- Crystal Bearers (Wii) trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkmDdyiSfZs&NR

What's this "half-a-year" crap? By the time the Wii launches there'll only be 2-3 months remaining in the year, and "early 2007" could be as soon as January for all you know. It's not so far off.

I personally think Xbox Live is a perfect example of what a console's online service should entail. Rankings, Optimatch, ease of use, social encouragement... much better than the "friend codes" system.

Uhh, yeah, and what about the development time for the games? Online modes won't magically appear the second Nintendo gives them the wifi libraries, they actually have to use them to DEVELOP an online mode first. I think we'd be lucky to see online third party games half a year after the Wii launches, it's probably going to end up being substantially longer than that.

Uh, they'd already be developing them and have them completed as soon as the start of next year? They DID say "early 2007", after all... I doubt very much that they meant anything past Q1.

Looks like Tecmo will be providing games on the Virtual Console. Yay for Tecmo Bowl!

Sure, that'll be a great idea. With the wealth of options available and the possibilities that may come up in the future, Xbox360 is gonna rock in the online sense. Nintendo, however, is so eager to tap into this "undiscovered waters" thing that it's sacrificing the complete package. For the people who hardly play games, who's gonna use the X360 online system? Nintendo's using friend codes to keep it simple and undaunting, and although it's a bite on the ass for us gamers it's so they can have everyone utilizing the online capabilities.

That said, they could allow more options for the population more comfortable with technology. Not to the extent of Microsoft but maybe they could "sophisticate" the system somehow.

Most likely faked Reggie speech script for September 14th (the "last secret" is just too unlikely - but an interesting read though since we're all dying for new Wii information):
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5324/1ii9.th.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/483/2gf3.th.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/7843/3es1.th.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5639/4pe1.th.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8366/5hf5.th.jpg

Ahaha yeah, that's very fake. It came to life as some 'exclusive insider info'zzz' email from a nobody to GoNintendo.com, and basically everything that site posts is hilariously retarded. There's spelling errors all over the place, mention of some virtual reality helmet that'll be used in Disaster: Day of Crisis and you can see a pattern in the wrinkled paper from the crappy Photoshop job. =D

"Wii: The new training technology for Al-Qaida?"

Brain scanners? Oh sharrup.

Notice how the documents don't go into details on gameplay and basic story plots.

Wow, that "document" is so fake. Sounds like mindless fanboy drivel, right down to the poorly thought out arguments and grammar/spelling issues. I like how he didn't even change the (already stupid looking) paper wrinkle pattern for each page.

Great, except how are they going to develop the online features without the online libraries? And the only people that said "early 2007" were the developers that (supposedly) talked to IGN about when Nintendo would be releasing the Wifi development tools to third parties. Nintendo has made no statements as to when online games will be available for the console.

Well I'd like to keep an optimistic face about this and say that it's sooner than we think.

Heh, not bad. I wouldn't mind that as an optional device. It would be like Virtual Boy but really, really, really awesome.

Well, we'll see how this pans out but that was an interesting read.

Personally I find that commercial lame and the girl representing the Wii ugly. Couldn't they of gotten someone that doesn't look like a shitty 2 cent whore?

Meh, this thing again? It doesn't make either of the consoles look good so whatever.

Man, I don't know what to think after that. PS3 as the system for fat chicks and the Wii as the system for whores. I wonder what Microsoft would be.....

What the hell is a blu-ray anyways? Is it like that blue thing I put in my toilet tank to keep it fresh and clean?

You know thats not a real comercial right? Its just some little spoof G4 made. I dont think they tend to alot much money for spoofs. Probably just someone who worke din the office and wouldn't mind going in front of the camera to act like an airhead.

A step up in DVD technology. Nearing tripple the cost, while making little difference even on large tvs. You can also put a Blu-ray drive in your computer. However, you can only watch what you record yourself, which probably wont even be near dvd quality, much less blue ray quality.

Its the way of the future! Its the Laserdisc of this decade. Anyone remember the Laserdiscs?

Although, I figure you were just kidding.

I suggest you read up on a subject before you vomit words out about it so you don't embarrass yourself in the future.

I'm not. I really have no clue what's going on there.

Don't worry about it, it's one of those things that'll be forgotten in a few years.

Says the man with the severe bias towards anything that isn't made by or for Nintendo.

Says the troll.

The Wii event in mid September seems to be something to actually look forward to

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=19412
and a quote from some guy from IGN called Matt

They better bloody well talk about all the important crap this time around, like EXCITE TRUCK, Super Fruitfall and if the Wii will deep fry chips. Actual launch date, price, list of confirmed launch games and how the Virtual Console will work would be nice too I guess.

This better be a spiritual sequel to Excite Bike or I'll be pissed.

It makes sense that they would announce that stuff during this big event. It's coming down to the wire, especially with all these October release date rumors floating around.

Something I've always wanted is a system that's released weeks after the release date is announced. I hope they go for it, because it would an be INCREDIBLE marketing strategy that would sweep people off their feet, similar to the announcement of the system's name.

It's like an Excite Bike crashed into San Francisco Rush and they had babies that grew into big damn trucks somehow.

Oh I have. I've looked up both Blu-Ray and HD DVDs. And Niether of them are worth the money. Movies arn't filmed on HD Film, and they wont be any time soon. Until they are, theres no point in buying HD DVDs nor BluRay, as they are barely any improvement over normal DVDs. Maybe you should go look it up.

I can buy three DVDs for the price of one blue ray disc. Sometimes four for the price of one blue ray disc. Which is why I don't see movies in theaters, because I can just buy the DVD for about the same ammount.

No one in their right mind is buying a PS3 for blu-ray.

PS2 was a decent price for a system and a DVD player. DVD was also a monumental step up from VHS. Improving every aspect at a lower production cost, with exception to perhaps the original cost to develope the technology. Drastically improved sound, picture, fps, format, allowance of multiple languages and subtitles, cheaper production per unit, thinner and easier to store, and drastically slower deteriation rate. DVD was a monumental improvement, and wasn't too expensive as an investment. Blu-Ray and HD-DVD arn't much of a step up, as almost nothing is actually filmed on HD-Film, and the cost for this minute improvement is ridiculous.

Tad confused... You mean like saying the released date will be lets say Nov. 20th, then two weeks after the announcement say, our mistake, Nov. 20th will be the arrival of a major shipment, the initial release date is actually this upcoming monday.

Superman Returns was filmed in pure HD.

Uhh, that's because films aren't in a digital format, and the analog format they're filmed in is far higher detail than "HD" formats are in. Scaling a movie down to HD video is still going to offer a substantial improvement over scaling it down to SD video.

Star Wars Episode 3 as well. And any CG films are going to be natively in a high resolution format (probably higher than even HD video is).

Your ability to be nothing but pure retarded has astounded me.

May I reiterate: the only thing you've gotten right was spelling "Blu-ray" properly, and even then, you've been hit-or-miss with that.

movies aren't filmed in hd, i wonder what this "letterbox" shit is

Yup but superman was the first movie to go straight to HD digital media :).

Starwars and Superman which actualyl filmed on HD film?? I hadn't heard of any movies doing that. I'll have to see if I can catch them on an HD channel then. I've never much liked superman, but I would like to see how that turned out.

Your an idiot. Stop trolling.

BTW, I have HD. Its awesome, but unless hollywood starts filming in HD, HD DVDs will not be a succuss. HD quality of non-HD film doesn't make that big of a difference, and certainly not a 600$ per player and 30$ per unit difference.

Yes, I sometimes mispell Blu-Ray. Perhaps thats because its name is a mispelling of 'blue', and I include the e by habit, due to it being the proper way to spell blue. Oh wow, you forgot a period and caps on your last sentence. Lets be a nit-picking-prick and complain about it.

Are you actually saying that Letterbox is HD quality? If so, then you've never seen anything filmed on actual HD film. DVD quality is not quite the same caliber as the original filming, but the film hollywood uses is nowhere near the quality of HD film.

I dont care about the whole gaming shit but you are wrong on every part on your movie bashing, I already said superman was filmed in pure HD digital media, that means no analog film, only HD, filmed in hd, planned for HD, released in HD.

I didn't see your response Zip, until I had already replied. Once I had, I eddited my post accordingly. You dont have to be a prick about it.

Superman may have been shot in HD. But this is the first time I've ever heard that. Sounds like Star Wars III was as well. Which is impressive.

I'm not bashing movies. I have no reason to. I greatly enjoy movies, and have a decent sized collection. However, fact is, an HD version of something not shot in HD makes little difference over the DVD release.

The things which I have seen shot on actual HD film is an amazing visual improvement. However, virtually nothing in hollywood is shot in HD yet.

Wikipedia lists a grand total of 13 movies total which have been shot in HD. However, its not entriely accurate, as while looking up Star Wars III, articles talked about Episode II being enhanced with HD, but not actually shot in it (as wiki lists it as). So its probably even fewer which are true HD. The mass majority of hollywood has not touched HD.

You say that as if it counters my statement.

When looking at stills, there is a noticable improvement. However, in actual moving footage, the difference isnt that great unless its actually filmed in HD.

% wise, that is virtually nothing. And that list isnt entirely accurate, as I know Episode II was HD enhanced, not true HD.

I was only interested in seeing 4 of those movies, and chose not to purchase any of them after viewing. Thats a pretty insignificant number in my opinion. We'll have to wait and see. Even if I was interested in all of those movies... 13 movies, at HD encanced quality or actual HD quality, is still pretty insignificant.

Oh, btw, this is the Wii topic.

Laserdisc was going to be the upgrade too. That didn't work out so well.

To purchase a player at 600$+ for a grand total of 13 (sort of) movies... is idiotic. Technology always comes down in price. Anyone in their right mind would wait for the price to come down while watching if its gaining support still or losing support.

Between Blu-ray and HD, yes Blu-ray will probably do better. Personally, i think they are both going to tank. I think it'll follow Sony's 'amazing' umds.

You sure you know which thread this is? Alot of you sure seem to get confused sometimes.

Hey, have you guys caught wind of this yet? Looks like Twilight Princess will be nothing short of utterly massive (or at least Hyrule or whatever that land is called now).

Hopefully it's not like the great ocean, largely empty expanses of sea with unappealing rock islands and platforms. If it's chock full of stuff/distractions/secrets along the way it'll make the scale worth it. That and if Nintendo avoids making fetch quests that force you to cross the entire game area.

I know, it makes me sad. What am I supose to do, I guess I could ignore them, but thats kinda hard.

Luckily metal sphere posted something Wii related.
I certainly would hope for the same. Assuming it is, that sounds amazing!

I got stuck in Windwaker at the "Go collect all the triforce crap" part. Got stuck in Metroid with the artifact too. Collecting crap always makes me apathetic. I'd hope they avoid sending you to amass a large collection of items as well, although I'd still play it.

I just keep getting more and more tempted to preorder a Wii...

Oops, I forgot to post a link to the article:

http://wii.ign.com/articles/730/730221p6.html

A ton of folks gave up on the game at the Tri-Force fetch quest simply because it was nothing more than a means to artificially extend the game's length, and a blatant one at that. Hopefully this turns out better than that, given the amount of time it's been worked on.

There should probably be a thread split around here, but I'll go off an on topic.

First of all comparing Blu-Ray to laser disk is a terrible comparison. Laser disk was a combination of too expensive and ahead of its time. Blue Ray is proportianally less expensive and right on time. The catch with laser disks is that all of the improvements went over most peoples heads. Home theatre systems aren't what they are now, and the technological consciousness was much lower.

Blu-ray or HD-DVD (my money's on Blu-ray) WILL BE successful if for no other reason than the fact that technology matches the televisions. (I forget what year) but it will be government mandated that all broadcasts be in HD. HD television sets and monitors are flying off of the shelves. Just like system sales attract third party game developers the fact that an HD set in a high percentage of homes is inevitable tells movie companies that they need to shoot their shit in HD. High definition is much more important to the consumer now than laser disk was back when. Finally when a person goes out and spends a good chunk of money on a TV its much easier to rationalize getting a player to take advantage of their set than just going out and buying a new format for somehting that's been in their house for 15+ years


Now about the Wii and Twilight Princess

Staying on the subject of HD what resolutions is the Wii going to output in? I heard Nintendo was content with capping it at 480p.

Lastly I'm curious on how Twilight Princess widescreen will compare to the original. Is it like movies where the widescreen version will actually be beneficial allowing you to see more of what's going on?

Next the is the $200 price everyone keeps throwing around a rumor or was that confirmed? Lastly what's a good source for confirmed Wii info? I've seen some craptacular sites that mix fact with fiction. I'd like a rundown of what's actually true at this point in time.

So what, it's GTA in a Zelda world, fishing makes it the greatest game EVAH.
lol.

No need, the thread was simply derailed. And it looks like the discussion's over too.

Nintendo hasn't said anything about caps, but they have made it clear that they disapprove of the HD-era plan of other other two. So they're basically going to go as high as NTSC will let them.

The bold part is what actual widescreen modes are supposed to allow. In other words, proper widescreen, the way it should be. Hopefully it turns out this way and not cropped like in many PS2 games.

Numerous statements coming out of Nintendo itself, and constant rumors of production costs way lower than anticipated. With that $170-175 range we've been given, it's not hard to assume that the price will be ~$250. Any more without extras, like Wii sports or a nunchaku/legacy controller will be too much.

I like what I'm hearing. I've never actually completed a single Zelda game, but I think this one is going to be the first one. If it turns out amazing, I might consider revisiting past Zelda adventures, like the GBA and if any DS adventures roll around the corner. Sounds amazing right now.

Wow, well I'll give you a few titles to try out if this does interest you enough to pick it up:

- Link's Awakening
- Link to the Past
- Ocarina of Time
- The Minish Cap

Most, if not all of them, start with "The Legend of Zelda".

Ugh, I sure as hell hope that Zelda got something interesting to fill those 45 minutes with, else it's going to be GTA: SA all over again. The whole "Look at how large this place is, aren't we great" thing about the game made me quit it.
But then again, this is Zelda, and Zelda is quite fun. (Though I would never buy the Wii version...)

sacrilage :O

You'll be able to play it with the wiimote or the gamecube controller I believe.

GC version also wont have the widescreen option.

I think it was confirmed that the Wii version would have Wii controller-only controls without an option for using a Gamecube controller.

Are you serious? Thats a bad idea :/

The programmings already there, just leave it in and let people choose :(

You're all almost definitely reading into the 45 minutes thing incorrectly.

Just because the game world will be almost as big as an Xbox doesn't mean you'll have to run around it every 30 seconds. I'm sure Ocarina songs will be a huge part of getting around to places you've already been to.

However, a world this big does have some pretty nifty possibilities. You couldn't really have epic battles on horseback in Ocarina of Time, could you? Shit, walking around in Termina Field in Majora's Mask was downright cramped. I'm hoping the world is rigorously detailed throughout, and not just big open plains all over the place (although I'm sure there will be at least one big wide-open plains area), however the fetch quest thing probably isn't going to be made into a problem if they're making the world this big.

I wonder how many dungeons there will be, personally. I'm sick of these new Zelda games having like 2 levels and then making me look for 84 heart pieces. Fuck that shit.

WRONG. WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG MOTHER FUCKING WRONG.

The government mandate is for DIGITAL BROADCASTS. DIGITAL BROADCASTS IS NOT HD. HD REQUIRES A DIGITAL BROADCAST, BUT DIGITAL BROADCASTS CAN ALSO OUTPUT SD SIGNALS.

Jesus. I get so freaking tired of people spouting this utter bullshit.

Now then. About Zelda:

I'm really excited about the scale of the world. Considering that they're NOT trying to rush it like they did Wind Waker, I have almost no doubt that it won't have the same problems WW did.

And it also helps that my sister and brother-in-law are buying my Wii for me when it comes out in return for dog-sitting on them while they go to China for 3 weeks. :D

The idea of a giant Hyrule makes me think of some form of Shadow of the Colossus-esque battle being in the cards. Imagine Ganon's final form being a giant colossus? I'd probably crap.

That's a good point, actually. I hope the game doesn't expect you to walk ALL the way to the other side of the map to do something and then walk all the way back over just to realize you forgot something. And thus, having the Ocarina songs would make life soooo much easier. But yeah, horseback riding needs large stretches of wide open plains anyway, so this should be NOTHING like GTA.....hopefully.

I hope it is something like GTA, Rockstar took care of the huge distances quite well, and if nintendo looks at how they did it (which im 100% sure they are), we get a better game.
Teleportations, horses and flying (maybe on a bird or something) are all good options. Having options to do instead of going from dungeon A to dungeon B is only good.

I'd eat that crap if it meant it would become true.

Hmmm... speaking of flying around the overworld, what if Link could find some phoenix bird to fly around on, flaming wings and shit included, to fight this huge final boss by swooping in and slashing like crazy?

Just a thought. :biggrin:

The Legend of New Wii Info: HD Vs. Blu-Ray THREAD!!!

Ditto what everyone has suggested. Ocarina songs or whatever will probably take the chore of 45 minute travelling away.

Three different Nintendo events planned for the three major territories: 14th Sept in Japan and America. then 15th of Sept in Europe. Will this finally be the day where a Revolution starts THAT IS WII? Release dates? Prices? Anymore secrets? Online plans? GAME FOOOTAGES LIKE WHHHUT!

Hype it up hype it up.

- Link's Awakening
- Link to the Past
- Ocarina of Time
- The Minish Cap

- Link's Awakening
- Link to the Past
- Ocarina of Time
- The Minish Cap

- Link's Awakening
- Link to the Past
- Ocarina of Time
- The Minish Cap

- Link's Awakening
- Link to the Past
- Ocarina of Time
- The Minish Cap

- Link's Awakening
- Link to the Past
- Ocarina of Time
- The Minish Cap

Seriously. Playing and completing Ocarina of Time should be a prerequisite to these forums.

Others would argue Link to the Past or any number of games. What the fuck is your point?

Heh, like a fucking avalanche. N64 emulation's pretty good these days, no?

Right here. Though I'm one of those people who lumps OoT in with FFVI and VII as overrated so I may not count. as much

No, no, no. For the hundreth time....

Gleeock.

GLEEOCK.

GLEEOCK

Is it not obvious? I like that game.
Although Link to the Past was awesome, and I should really finish it ;__;...

You're all either lying or deluded: obviously the best Zelda game was Link's Awakening. =D

Anyway, I didn't see this posted up yet so I might as well mention it, since it's well worth seeing: IGN did a very extensive hands-on of the Wii in their IGN Weekly thing, from the German Games Convention in Leipzig. It features long gameplay footage of Battalion Wars 2, that Mario footie game, and a bunch of others (but none of the flagship titles, for some reason). Link'd.

I really dislike Battalion Wars 2 using the Wii controller as a mouse cursor thing. It's just so uninspired.

Thanks for the link =D not seen it yet.

The Wiimote will inevitably come to match many mouse-like features from PC games. Uninspired or not, it may get me to give BW2 a go, since the idea of controlling a RTS with a gamepad scared me the hella away from BT1, though it looks so damn sweet.

Starcraft 64 scarred me for life :(

Minish cap is the best Zelda ever FULL STOP

Vaati spit hot FIYAH, but the game was too short. It was fun while it lasted.

I thought Fran had quite a bit of trouble with Battalion Wars, or at least it looked that way. He was struggling to get the troops moving while moving his commander. The worst one was definitely the helicopter, but I'm sure there's going to be time to tweak all this.

Strikers was solid, though not much seems to have changed from the Gamecube version. Red Steel was very "meh" with the slow turns and environmental quality (textures mostly ranging from spectacular to lame).

Fran looked like he just sucks at Batallion Wars.

WHO THE FUCK TAKES A HELICOPTER AGAINST SOMETHING CLEARLY LABELED "ANTI-AIR."

Hmm, you've got a point. But the second time he switches to the helicopter, he can barely aim down at the tank that wipes him out faster than the AA guns.

Wii sports just looks fun, can't wait.

The slow turning REALLY turned me off (har, that's a pun I think). Like Fran, I really hope they have a kind of calibration system so that can be fixed.

Maybe they didn't lock the camera to the gun because they felt that with an exaggerated motion it may disorient the player?

Yeah, if you look at the bat or golfclub from Wiisports, it's kinda shaky (I reckon these track the wiimote directly?), and the pointer in BW2 and Mario Galaxy is generally quite shaky too, as it must be impossible to hold it prefectly still.

I guess playing Red Steel with a locked camera mode would give anyone a seizure... Unless they could incorporate some kind of smoothing/backlash, which would be my favored option if possible.

Well, the way I see it, if there's (potentially) someone behind you with a shotgun trying to shoot your brains out, how fast would you turn around? That's how fast I would like my game character to turn around too. He's not a tank.

Nintendo Australia / EB strike back with an even crappier looking promo poster!

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6946/dsc00054ut7.jpg

It's like Mario's about to shove it up his arse or something.

Playing = believing :tpg:
Ohmygoodness, someone ought to be fired.

Now I come to think if it, they wouldn't be able to just "bind" the viewing point to the curser - you would never be able to turn all the way around without actually pointing the wiimote backwards.
They need that pointer to reach some point near the edge to begin turning.

I too think it's too slow like it is. I would like to see some kind acceleration instead - pointing halfway to the edge makes you start turning, and then faster towards the edge. Maybe so fast, pointing over the edge, that just by giving it a nudge you will be able to turn all the way around.

Oh I do hope they take these kind of things into consideration =/

Exactly, that's the kind of game mechanic I would like to see in there. I doubt very much the first situation is how it would work (or at least, that would be really silly).

The Wii mote doesn't map movements 1:1, so you wouldn't have to point it backwards to turn all the way around. If you've ever played a traditional FPS, it takes very little in terms of moving the mouse (on normal sensitivity) to turn around. Surely the Wii mote is far more sensitive, so it'd take even less of a movement for a quick 180.

btw, tanks don't do 180s all that fast

Yeah, I thought about how it could work like a traditional mouse-fps. It might be too uncontrollable until you get really hardcore at steadying the wiimote. With a mouse you'll be resting your wrist at all times (or rather you should be).

Another thing is that the game will lose some of it's "coolness" - the feeling of you actually pointing directly at the point you intend to shoot at, giving the wiimote the impression of you holding a real gun, rather than just a maneuvering device.
It's like this it's working now, is it not?

Saw that a few days ago too. Shitty photoshopping.

The next big step for NOAus is to grab some advertising space. I'm getting sick of these X360 promotion shit for Nutri-Grain or whatever.

Oh, it's a week now before Sept 14th: Wii finally draws back the curtain.

Who knows if they'll release new information... If Nintendo has its way they'll tell us everything two weeks after the console has launched. -_-"

The coolness of Batallion Fucking Wars has nothing to do with feeling like you're holding a gun. I think you couldn't have missed the point of the game more if you tried.

Not really. If there was a means to adjust the sensitivity on either the Wiimote or Wii itself (via dasboard), this would not be a problem. Heck, it could even be in-game to suit your play style. I'm simply saying that the edge turning is far too slow and tedious. It'll likely be a source of frustration if this isn't fixed in the final game.

:eyebrow: I'm not getting this, could you rephrase it?

Some more Wii factoids! Mostly great, but two very alarming things:

That's all fine and great. Especially Wii Spore!

Um, What?! I hope this is only regarding your Virtual Console games and not your actual game saves.
source

:( Also...

source

Ok, what the hell is this? Nintendo's been getting everything right so far. It seemed like they really learned from all their past mistakes. But now they're taking vibration out? Talk about taking a major step back! (Especialy from a console that's poised to be so gaming-forward). I have to agree with site editor. The speaker's great and all but not if it means that it's gonna replace vibration. I'm hoping this'll turn out to be some false info.

_______


Also: This is still kind of a Rumor, but Super Paper Mario is said to be moved to Wii now, and Wii's apperantly lost DVD playback

Meh, none of this really bothers me. SPM on Wii will be great. As for the DVD playback, I never really cared for it.

Rumble does and doesn't bother me. I use my wavebird all the time so I don't mind not having rumble. However, since they touted it as one of the controller's features I expect it to be there. Changing it this late in the game is pathetic.

Damn, that really blows that rumble is removed. That kinda gives in-game immersion a smack in the face. Oh well, it's pretty much their only mistake with this system thus far, so, I'm not too worried yet.

Also, I assume the SD card DRM refers to the virtual console games and not game saves.

I read elsewhere that the magazine made a mistake, and that rumble would be included. After all, the E3 wiimotes had both the speaker AND rumble, so the speaker REPLACING rumble makes no sense.

Update:
Proof rumble is still there: http://wii.ign.com/articles/731/731354p2.html
If you go to the first page of that article, you'll find the posted date of September 7th.. today.

As for the DVD movie playback add-on... I don't know. I don't really care either, since my Zen Vision:M is amazing.

So, rumble feature is still there....I don't know if its good or not. It'd kill me if rumble was missing, but then again, hopefully rumble doesn't screw you over when you're trying to steady an aim or something. Of course, if there's any rumble, that's how it is in real life......whatever, I'm just rambling now, since Rumble is back now regardless.

But to believe that rumble never went away, wouldn't we have to concede IGN as a being a good source of intel?

Would you rather believe the British?

It seems excessively unlikely that they would take out rumble after all the "rumble is IN!" clamoring, anyway.

Here's something cool, though not quite cool enough for school (or was that the other way around?): "Iga" hinted at a Castlevania title for the Wii. It's pretty shockingly obvious that a Castlevania title would appear on the Wii, but that won't keep me from celebrating the possibility, especially after all the pussyfooting Iga's done the past half year re: Castlevania on the Wii.

IGN IS a good source of intel when it's an interview with a developer.. and when IGN is reporting new Wii controller information (the 6kb of cache and speaker) without mentioned rumble being gone. Better than a random place quoting someone important.. which turns out not to be true.

When the rumble feature is initiated, it's normally cause something unsteadying is occuring. Now Rumble is actually creating the sense of unsteadiedness by moving your hand, and your reaction to it makes it all the more real, as if you were in the game so to speak.

Im guessing the idea of no rumble came from PS3 excuse for not having it... and that from there the speaker was seen as compensation. Good to knwo they are both confirmed as in though :)

My thoughts exactly.

However, most games allow you to turn off rumble anyways. So if it bothers you...

:) Good to know it was just a case of bad journalism. I guess Nintendo would have taken everything about rumble off this site too if the "no rumble" crap was true. (Should have thought of checking their site earlier.) I can now breath a sigh of reliefe.

Yeah, I'm talking about Red Steel / FPS's.

I want it more responsive too, but just turning up the sensitivity, like on a mouse, would be a huge turn-off for me.
I want to shoot exactly where I'm pointing the wiimote (like a lightgun), and then speed up the turning as your pointer reach the edge instead.
Am I making sense? =P

DVD play-back would have been nice, but not a big loss anyway. The Spore idea and the 6k internal controller memory seem like small things but they'll probably come off as good inclusions. Rumble will hopefully stay contrary to the article Technophile wrote, as if Nintendo want to immerse their players into the game, they would requrie feedback of some sort.

What would happen to games if suddenly the Wii controller runs out of batteries? Would it automatically go to sleep mode, restart the game (ala Four Sword Adventures) or pause and prompt you to replace the batteries?

I don't mind the battery part. You think of it as a trade-off for the gyroscope technology.

A week till the "supposed" final unveiling of Wii in its entirety. And price/release date. w00t!

I forgot all about DVD playback in the thing. Doesn't everyone have a twenty five cent player sitting next to their consoles like me by now? One that proudly states it can do JPEG slideshows then every image comes up on screen as a yellow and purple Atari 2600 type mess? They're the best.

I still use my PS2 for my DVD watching (with DVD Region X disc) :( The picture is good enough for me when using an RGB cable.

Though we do have proper DVD players in the house too


I like how the headlines scream WII PRICE CONFIRMED FOR EUROPE and they give an estimate for the UK, which is usually an entirely different price than the rest of Europe :mad:

£149 is actually a bit more than what I had begun to expect, since it will pretty certainly translate to something like €250 over here. With games magically costing €59.90.

"What? You've been paying that for ages now, why distrupt something you're used to?!"

Eegads, didn't GameCube launch at like €200? I hope Wii's the same. :( My PS2's DVD movie function thingy died somewhere in 2002, like magic! Yet it still reads DVD-ROM games fine. Actually, fine as in, has to take about two minutes to reconize the discs. Keep going little PS2! You can do it!

Just saw a story on Google News that IBM has shipped the main microprocessors for the Wii, all of them, and that indicates the Wii will be here on schedule. Looks like Nintendo will get those 6 million Wiis out to anyone who wants one (I can't recall Nintendo ever screwing up a launch anyway).

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3153497
http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_bl...stnews;title;0

Couple that with Sony's notice that it will only ship half of its expected consoles (pushing prices probably well over what XBOXes were at for people who are unlucky enough to not find a store who will well them one)...ouch.

Nintendo has said they'll have 6 million consoles ready from launch to March 2007. I think that's amazing, and definitely a good start for the Wii.

Hmm, I just had an idea for a good FPS layout.

No turning if you move the pointer to the side of the screen.

HOWEVER, if you hold down the A button, the pointer becomes a fast turning control. The aiming cursor would remain in the center of the screen, and depending on where you move the remote, the character would turn in that direction. When you let up on the A button, it's back to frozen-in-place Light Gun mode.

Think of the control scheme in games like Deus Ex or System Shock, where you have a free look mode and a "mouse click" mode.

I think strafing with the analog stick in one hand, and aiming with the remote in the other would be the best for first person shooters. I mean, the controls in Metroid Prime aren't so great. If they pull it off this way, I don't see what could go wrong.

Of course it'd take some getting used to though.

I dunno about you but to be honest I can't imagine using a system other than Metroid Prime's. Granted, that's because I suck at console FPS's and the farthest I got was a few minutes of co-op Halo and Geist (which I used the MP control scheme in :p), but I dunno.

If nothing else, MP's control scheme was good for the kind of game it was. *shrug*

Jazz, that would be a great way to compromise both Sphere's and my own wishes! I reckon that you'd still be able to shoot while in turn-mode. Meaning that if you are elite and steady enough, you could be able to play it completely in this mode, if you like that feel.

But think of combining it with the screen-edge-turning too:
If an enemy goes just off the screen you'll still be on track of him - but generally playing, you'll always have the fast-button-turn at your disposal.
Your idea, just without unnecessarily disabling the screen-turning. This I think could actually be an ideal form of control.

Whatever Red Steel becomes, we're bound to see some different FPS experimenting in this matter, I think...



EDIT: Omg, all this game needs is a fast-turn-button. Wasn't this mentioned already? =P

Wow you nearly worried me there! No rumble would severely impact a lot of the current launch line-up and more. Trauma Center 2 relies heavily on rumble as a key feature to providing an immersive on-hands experience; I can imagine the devs pulling it out if the Wii lost that function...

IGN broke the story of Sam Fisher being Wii-bound.
Double Agent will be on Wii by this holiday season.

Damn, Ubisoft must owe Nintendo a big favor we don't know about, because their support for Wii has been quite impressive. Perhaps the Lovecraftian deity known as the Yamauchi (you know he's still the pupper master!) exerted its sorcery and is controlling the mind of Yves Gillemont, secretly whispering orders to him from darker planes of existence.
Or maybe they like Wii a lot. But I like the Yamauchi theory better.

You're right, Jazz' idea really does sound like a nice alternative. It'd be quick to switch between the two to suit each individual situation or style.

While Jazz's Idea for the Wii's FPS control scheme sounds good, I get the feeling that FPS will have to evolve over time. Things sound good in theory, but you have to actually feel what it feels like to play it before you set things in stone. I'm not downplaying Jazz's theory, because it may be a good one, I'm just saying that it might be more beneficial to try several different Alternatives before setting one in stone. Here's hoping that Red Steel will come with more than one control scheme.

If anyone's still not convinced by IGN's damage-control post and still worried 'bout the rumble, here's an article from the very same site that posted the magazine's inaccurate story, stating that the same magazine is admitting they made a mistake . :)

To divert the Red Steel talk away for a bit (sorry guys), I read recently in an newspaper article (THE MOST "UNBIASED" media for games [not!]) about the pros and cons about the yet to be released next (or New) gen consoles, Wii and PS3.

Although some of their arguments reflected the ignorant, low "average joe" kind of audience, one of their cons for the Wii still bugged me.

"Nintendo has a tendancy of being a more 'kiddy' system, aiming to make games for the general public rather than full fledged games as we know them as, such as Halo and Tomb Raider".

First of all, the last line about no fully-fledged "games" is bullshit. But the thing that really bugs me is the comment on "Kiddy". Really, is that how Nintendo is STILL perceived? Perhaps the pros/cons were really the reflection on the non-gamers but as far as I'm concerned, there are more games on Wii which are looking "un-kiddy" than ever before, exhibit: Sadness, Metroid, Zelda TP just to name a few. Plus on top of that, there are no more purple lunchbox designs. Replacing that is a sleek, new iPod inspired shell which looks modern and sleek.

With all those in mind, how is it that the public still see Nintendo as "kiddy"?

Nintendo will always be kiddy, UNLESS they show Mario's boobs. Also! Ubisoft's launch games GT Pro and Monster 4x4 will come bundled with this thinga-ma-jig.

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/ar...8114711546.jpg

Floating steering wheel of doom. They say it'll also work with EXCITE TRUCK, Cars and the racing bits in Spongebob Squarepants: Battle of the Very Long Whatever Name. Also any other racer or Wii game in general I guess. Kind of like playing action games on PS2 with the DDR mat. I'd play Smash Bros. with it.

Bets tons of money that's how Microsoft and Sony market against Nintendo, and the public believes their bullshit.

I think if we can or decide to help against this pikachu shit, we should probably show them games like Zelda and Metroid, as well as show them Microsoft and Sony's "kiddy" moments.

Also toss a few "Giant enemy crab" buzzwords.:lolsign:

I think Ubisoft will really help them break this 'kiddy' idea. That and the fact that Nintendo is also targeting new ammount of the populace (kids already like games).

Splinter Cell, Red Steal, etc should really help people see the system will have games fro Everyone and for every group. Metroid, Zelda, and Crisis, etccan't hurt either.

You know, if Nintendo could truly populate their library with a variety of games including games for kids, that should help garner the market. The average age of the gamer nowadays is just the age where people have young children or are starting families. If I knew I had to buy an Xbox 360 for $400 and another $400 worth of games/accessories for myself, and then also the Wii for $250 plus another $400 worth of games/accessories, or just the Wii for that price, I would definitely choose to just have the 1 system.

Realistically, though, if you look at the PS2's ginormous library compared to GC's, I bet that overall PS2 actually has many more "kiddie" games than GC, but no one calls Sony "kiddie." It's all about image - a different marketing firm could sell the exact same Wii in a totally different way...

It wouldn't really be so much about the amount but the percentages. If, within that large library, PS2 has a higher ratio of "kiddy" games when compared to the Gamecube, then this whole notion is poppycock.

This is what I don't get about the public opinion of Nintendo being "Kiddy". I mean, come on now, seriously, can you not play Mario or Pokemon without losing your penis or what? This "kiddy" image is the imge of the Gamecube, which I'll admit, does look somewhat like a toy you would throw around, but why has the name passed on to Nintendo? It seriously does not bother me if I'm playing a game console that is a purple cube. Hell, I have a purple calculator and I don't have anybody questioning my Masculinity. Seriously, this "kiddy" image should only bother people who can't be a man and accept something past looks.

Hell, I'm willing to bet that, had Sony's PS2 looked "kiddy" it would have befallen the same fate. "Oh my god, I can't play a gamecube! It looks like a toy!" Seriously, just shut up and be a man. You almost make it seem like playing a PS3 will enlarge your penis magically or something.

Hmm, Metroid and Zelda have been on all Nintendo consoles, so that's kind of a bad example if you're hoping to prove the Wii has suddenly grown up.

You guys aren't going back in history far enough. It has nothing to do with the Gamecube and its size and shape. Nintendo's 'kiddy' image has formally been around since the SNES when a game called Mortal Kombat was released for it and the Sega Genesis. One of which kept all the gore and blood intact, while the other replaced it with sweat. Nintendo took one of the most popular games of the day and more or less ruined it. Real gamers have never forgotten the Mortal Kombat fiasco and Nintendo has still not managed to loose that image.

I don't think most common gamers even remember the original mortal kombat so whatever. Plus, I believe Nintendo kept the blood intact for the sequel b/c of the backlash. Also, I remember there being a password or code or something that you had to put in to unlock blood in the Genesis version. Hot Coffee of its day I guess? Dunno.

Besides, it's Mortal Kombat. Who the fuck cares? It had its moments but it's gotten pretty stale over the years now.

LOL

And what a piss and moaning thing that Mortal Kombat debacle was. Of course, all the "mainstream" (e.g. 20-30) gamers remember this. That was when we were in Jr High, and needed the blood to validate us as tough adults. I remember thinking that it wasn't a big deal, and a bunch of kids made it seem like God himself had died because there weren't ugly blotches of red pixels on the SNES version.

Seriously, the bias that Nintendo is "kiddy" is just foolishness, fanboyism. and "I'm too cool for..." syndrome coming out of people. Sure Nintendo doesn't have as many games that are dark, gloomy, cuss and gore filled. Who cares? And if you do, you are a closed minded person . Why do adults have to play said games anyway?

Damn Right. I'm not a Nintendo evangelist, but I do support Nintendo and those who downplay its so-called "kiddy" nature are in the wrong. People who think they can't be seen playing Mario Kart and instead have to be seen playing Gran Turismo. (Speaking of which, exactly WHAT is the point of Gran Turismo? I watched my friend "play" it once and it was him setting up his car, and putting it on auto-drive while he watched the cars icon go across the minimap. He admitted that he usually flipped channels while the race was going on.)

Anyways, what's our launch lineup looking like? I know of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Red Steel, Excite Truck, Mario Galaxy, Metroid, Wii Sports, WarioWare? What else is there?

From 3rd parties (read: mostly Ubisoft) there's Rayman Raving Rabbids, Splinter Cell Double Agent, Tony Hawk Downhill Jam, Metal Slug Collection, Call of Duty 3, Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz, Trauma Center: Second Opinion, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, etc...

Don't forget Mario Galaxy won't make lauch date. And there's also Smash Bros for 2007.

Where's Jet Set Radio, Sega!?

I think Smilebit/AM6 is no longer together making games :( They got disbanded in 2004 when SEGA merged with Sammy. Which is sad. Because I would totally die if there were Jet Set Radio for Wii. Raar!

And yeah, really solid lineup of launch titles. I personally can't figure out which ones I'll get at launch... I may see what kind of bundles there'll be, since that's inevitable.

Speaking of SEGA games... Overworks/AM7 needs to get together again and make another RPG... Skies of Arcadia was too good for them not to.

I think when people (the media, people who are objective) say that Nintendo's consoles are "kiddy" have the right idea, but try too hard to use a term that is less than flattering.

I think a more apt term would be...I dunno, "cartoony"? Outside of maybe the Pokemon, I think 25-35 year-olds would get more pleasure from playing any of the Mario games than a kid would. I think people need to stop believing that less maturity is a sign of less quality, both the people who write about Nintendo and the Nintendo fans who get so offended. "Kiddy" isn't really a bad term...life is more fun when you're a kid, I mean, what do you say to your friends when you're a kid? "Do you want to come over and play?" If video games is more about playing and less about graphics and home theater, then I think I'd rather things be kiddy.

Yeah, Wii's launch seems to be quite solid indeed. Probably the best launch of a Nintendo console to date.
I'm getting:
- Wii console.
- Extra memory card thingy! (or maybe I'll just use Wii's internal memory, I'm cheap).
- Extra controller (as I understand it, each independent controller will be sold as nunchuk configurations, right?).
- Twilight Princess (obviously THE launch game to get).
- Metroid Prime 3 (Prime 1 is easily one of the best games the GC got in its lifetime and Prime 2 is a solid sequel, so Corruption is high on the list of my most anticipated games, even more so since this will bring conclusion to the Prime saga).
- Metal Slug Collection (6 games from one of the most badass -and funny too- series gathered on one disc? I'm in).
- Red Steel (it seems like a great test for the potential of the Wii controller, and it also looks a lot of fun).
- Splinter Cell Double Agent (I've played only the first game of the series, and only briefly, and this game seems badass enough).
- Rayman Raving Rabbids (this looks like the ideal game to be played for short periods of time, also the humor is appealing).

THE Wii launch game to get is a GameCube game? Doesn't sound like a good launch to me. Thank god for Ubisoft!

Nintendos 'kiddy' image isn't a bad thing. If they wanted to appeal to insecure jocks they wouldn't have called it Wii. Kids mostly play violent games like Red Steel and Splinter Cell now anyway.

Well, the N64 Zeldas are arguably better than many of the games of the next generation of game, so I don't find it so awful that Twilight Princess is the very first game I want to get when I buy my Wii.

Is there a list somewhere yet that says all the games that will be available the day the Wii launches? Is that even known?

Wikipedia has a pretty good list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii

I should mention that CompUSA has a sale on SD cards. I grabbed a 2GB today for $45. Might as well get it now.

I've been searching for such a list - never thought of looking the most obvious place, thanks!


Zelda and Red Steel are 100% buys for me at launch day.

I'll be on the look for a fun multiplayer game too.
Maybe if Raving Rabbits will feature something. A game with Big Damn Trucks might persuade me also.

I would love to see any media at all from Far Cry and Blazing Angels.
Far Cry for another FPS aspect than Red Steel, and Blazing Angels for the fun of "holding" a plane, if the likes of Wii Motor Sports.
Again, I will need to see some media and description of the controlling before I would ever consider buying.

Metroid Prime 3 is a no go at launch. I've still got Prime 2 lying around and I've never even played it.
My Cube's been abandoned since I've caressed my vga-box with my heel, evoking a slight crushing noise.
I thought I'd wait half a year and instead play my Gamecube games on the Wii, rather than investing in a new vga-box.

I'm not so sure, my 11 year old cousin likes Mario 64 a lot more than I do. But yeah, I definitely agree with the sentiment.

It actually depends on which age group you're talking about. Nintendo's prime spot is at the pre-secondary school (Ages < 10) leaving a huge gap until about the age of 20 - 25. Ages under 10 will certainly find Nintendo fun as ever and after that, I would agree that, yes, the older people will again find Nintendo more fun over the gamers in their teen years who must simply make themselves stand out by having the slickest looking graphics and must play the absolutely most violent game with the most gratuitous amounts of sex/violence/gore/etc. that they can get their hands on. Once you get past that, you're back in the game games that are fun over games that are mature.

Awesome, because I sure as hell don't have Component nor S-Video (I know, I'm overdue for an upgrade), So, 16:9 is indeed supported? Does this mean that there's no horrible stretching on a widescreen (whenever I do upgrade)?

It might be because my friends and I grew up playing NES stuff, but pretty much the only games we play together anymore are Mario Kart DD, Smash Bros Melee, Monkey Ball and Mario Power Tennis. It seems odd, but they're just loads of fun. Especially on a huge projector screen.

For launch, I know I'm definately getting Twilight Princess. I might get Excite Truck too just because it looks pretty damn fun. If DQSwords is actually ready for launch, and gets good previews (haven't seen ANYTHING from it so far) I might get that, but a lack of time for localization will probably get it delayed from the US launch. Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz is another strong contender, since I still play the original to this day.

I've got about 480 dollars set aside from tip money I made over the summer (working in a coffee shop, so tipping was extra income). I imagine I'll dedicate about 300-350 dollars of that to Wii, depending on how much it costs. I intend to buy:

Twilight Princess (still not sure which version; probably Gamecube)
Metroid Prime 3
extra controllers, probably three
memory card?
a few VC downloads

I'm also interested in Red Steel and EXCITETRUCK but I'm not sure if I'll get them or not.

Also, are Gamecube memory cards compatible with Wii? I guess they'd have to be, right? I just never really heard anything about it.

They are, there are 4 gamecube controller ports along the top of the console (underneath the flap), and 2 memory card slots.

We also need another Waverace. Specially if Excite Truck, Downhill Jam, GT Pro and other racing games prove that the Wiimote can do the genre justice.

I'm not sure 350 dls is enough money for all that.

I was wondering that myself. I hope to be wrong, but somehow I get the feeling that Nintendo will only allow the use of GC memory cards to save GC games' stuff.

In any case, I guess we can start by using Wii's internal memory. The easiest solution would be the support of any USB flash drives and SD cards.

Will the new games be able to be saved on Gamecube memory cards, then?

Wii games use SD cards for saving. Much much better and cost effective. You can get a 2 GB SD card for like 50 to 100 bucks. That's plenty of room for virtual console content and saved games. There's also talk of using the USB ports in the back to connect the system to USB harddrives. I'd totally buy another 120 Western Digital portable harddrive just for that if it's true. The Wii uses a type of DRM to protect Virtual Console games from being played on other systems though I think but saved games should be a-ok. I'm sure we'll get more specifics on DRM later. The specifics on how that will really work has not been revealed yet.

Jesus, I wish I worked in your coffee shop. :( Let's see... $7 a night...3 nights a week....$21 a week. :\
(Cheapskate bitches, some orders over $100 and we'll see $1 in tips)

! See below !

Let's see....in terms of costs.....correct me if I'm wrong, but...

Wii Console - $200 (or hopefully less)
Controllers - $30 (just a guess from the past era) x 3 = $90
2GB SD Card - $50 (according to Acer)
Games - $50 (Really don't know actually, just a guess) x 2 = $100

For all that.....that's about $440. You probably won't need a 2GB SD card, nor do you need all 3 controllers (unless you plan on huge parties and such) so a total of 2, a single launch title would be good enough for me, so now, we're looking at about...

Wii Console - $200
2nd Controller - $30
1GB SD Card - $30
Launch Game - $50

$310. Not bad at all.

Virtual Console leak!

The ESRB proves that it's not entirely worthless.

Ugh, those games are just going to be on the Sega Genesis Collection (except for TJ&E).

And that thing's supposed to be like, 20 bucks or so. Plus, you get a whole shitload of other games with it, including Phantasy Star II, III, and IV.

Why play Genesis on Wii if you can buy the whole shebang for 20 bucks on PS2?

Oh wow.

This better be true. Toejam and Earl is my favorite game, and I'd really like to see it on the Wii. It'd be great if there was some online multiplayer action in Toejam and Earl, but that's never going to happen. Still, I'd like to see it in the Virtual Console.

Pretty good selection of games to kick off with. Could do with less Ecco and more SHINOBI. I don't really care about the Mega Drive stuff though, I wanna know if Bonk from TurboGrafx will be there day one. =o

I'm waiting for Shining Force 2.....man, that takes me back. Hopefully, it's not an impossible wish.

I would hope that Sega includes everything from that PS2 megacollection and more on the Wii VC lineup. By all means they're already making them portalicious, and have done so with nearly all of them at some point in one of their collection packages.

Ecco the mothaf'n' Dolphin though, that's where it's at. And TJ&E... I spent so many many long hours playing that one. It was the only game I got my dad to play with me too, I made him be Earl.

Unlikely, the memory card ports and controller ports are likely there for backwards compatibility purposes. It's the exact same situation from PSX to PS2.

I would love for Konami/NEC to make Dracula X Rondo of Blood available on the virtual console, but I won't hold my breath.

The Virtual Console just seems to be for people that want a specific game or want to play an old game in a specific series. It's pretty useless as a "general" classic game player since buying a large amount of individual games will probably be pretty expensive compared to buying a collection of them in a single pack. Especially with the Sonic games...they've already had two Sonic compilation packs on the Gamecube (which of course the Wii is backwards compatible with), so why would anyone that's interested in the series download it for the VC when for $40 you can have EVERY game in the series from before Adventure? Although Sonic CD, Sonic R, and Sonic Fighters probably wouldn't be on the VC anyway.

Well I have 480 dollars to spare, I was just trying to be optimistic. :P
I'll probably only get two extra controllers from the get-go, but I like having four for parties and stuff. God knows, half my friends will have a Wii, too.
I'm definitely getting two games, Metroid and Zelda. I'm interested in other games, too, but those might be good for Christmas or something.

Hopefully, we'll be able to work out what we have to budget it in a few days. With any luck.

I would shit a squirrel if they made a sequel to Ecco the Dolphin: Defender of the Future on Wii. It was probably one of the most underrated games of this generation.

They could probably even market it as part of whatever they intend to call the Wii counterpart of Touch Generations. The Dreamcast title was a very all-ages game.

I pray for some Sega Saturn games on the VC. Any word on something like that?

super smash bros brawl all the way...also since i live in canada...i heard it will be $299...and lanch games are like $65 here...rawr cant wait till lanch date which is nov 16

The controller ports aren't exactly only for backwards compatability, as the GCN controllers can be used to play some of the Wii games if developers decide that the GCN ones may be more suitable. SSB Brawl is said to be one such games, at least for the moment.

So, uh, where did you hear this?

I am anticipating a $299 CND launch price. I would very surprised if it were cheaper. And I mean very. Games will certainly range from $59-74. I can see myself spending $500 easily on launch day, with the system, a game or two, memory stick and whatever odds and ends I decide to pick up.

My Mastercard is getting a lot of lovin' lately with my recent PSP purchase. Over $600 right there thank you very much.

The whole point of the console is to establish and explore gaming with a new interface device. Again, the ports are there for backwards compatibility purposes, not as a cop-out for lazy developers.

It doesn't reflect well on the machine if half of the third party developers are working on it with half their foot out the door.

Some games it just doesn't work that well. Fighters being one of them but who knows we may see some sort of Wii controller implimentation into Brawl in the coming months but I really doubt it. The gamecube controller layout was already perfect.

How 'bout strapping a controller to each foot, then hold one in each hand, and actually kick/punch/jump/duck/block etc. to control your character. How awesome would that be? Any kind of game could work with the Wiimote; it just requires a paradigm shift...

I'd really like a boxing game that allowed using two controllers. Ideas been in my head since a week or two after they released the info on the wii-motes.

That might work with ragdoll effects... it would take a LOT of tweaking, though. But yeah, I can see how it could work out nicely.

Any word on whether or not there will be a live feed or some sort of continuously updated page for the event on Thursday?

Nope not yet, just make sure to refresh sites in 15 hours and 35 minutes.

Wii released on 09/11...? (sounds familiar guys)
http://www.gamebrink.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10607

Well, some games simply can't be on the Wii in their current forms, can they? That calls for the developer to think of a new way to play the same game, yet they simply throw their hands up and fall back on the Gamecube controller.

Brawl and certain other games, I can understand since the nunchuck and wiimote wouldn't be able to provide as good a control interface as the gamecube controller.

bog.

Making the six o'clock news, that sure is a fancy way to announce the local launch details. Nintendo Australia's probably blown their whole thirty cent marketing budget already with this!

The news is certainly a great way to tap into the currently untapped 90% of the possible market. If they're trying to market the Wii to people besides us gamers, that's a good place to start.

It feels like Nintendo definately has something up their sleeve. With buzz about launch date and production numbers I think the Wii's gonna launch sooner than later. I think it'll hit stores in October in the US

You can't expect every game idea to work perfectly with the controller. It doesn't automatically work for every type of game, so for some the option to use the Gamecube controller is very welcome. I think it would honestly suck if every company started changing their games so that they could exploit the controller to it's fullest instead of focusing on making the game first. The hardware should compliment the games, not the other way around.

Uhh, yeah, any kind of game COULD work on the controller. They just might suck on it. Hence the reason for the option to use a Gamecube controller for certain games.

I was pretty much relieved when it became known the gamecube controllers would work with the Wii. Think of all the embarrasing situations this will prevent with someone walking in on you while crouching behind the sofa and doing midair diverolls shouting B-BAM, B-BAM-B-BAM! TAKE THAT EVIL SPACE PIRATE MONKEY...MKAY! Like that dude in the promo video.

I can just see myself playing Twilight Princess holding the nunchuck up and 'drawing the bow' while aiming at the television screen, BAM! Both my parents standing in the doorway shaking their heads.

My parents already grill me all the time, "how old are you again" when they see me playing games like KH2. I swear they'd be making phone calls to have me checked in if they ever saw me with the Wiimote.

"Son, it's for the best..."

:(

Egads, i didn't realize that conference was tomorrow. Man things tend to sneak up on you when you don't pay attention all that closley.

Oh but oh, my stupid late classes have to be on that day!!!

Funny, wasn't it Seven's Today Tonight that glorified the launch of the PS2 7 years ago?

But yeah, NOAus has probably killed off its budget already, what with the posters, increased tv advertising space and whatnot. I plan to secretly go on the net during my lecture tomorrow for details!!!

My only class is at 6:30 PM tomorrow, so, I will be here watching and waiting for info to emerge. What time does this thing start, 10 AM or something?

Detailed schedule!

Is it just me or is GMT really not included? o_O

Um, that chart's making no sense to me. Maybe i'm just stupid though. Could someone explain it?

The event begins in Japan on Thursday Sept. 14, 10:00AM to 4:00PM. In Eastern Time (EDT, United States), that's Wednesday, Sept. 13, 8:00PM - 2:00AM. For Central Time (CDT), it's 7:00PM - 1:00. And so forth.

These are when the North American events happen, showing all four time zones.

These are the European event times, according to the US time zones.

It would've been easier if they had just used GMT instead.

I missed something... what is this event?
edit: Oh oh, the conference. I see.

I hope people will always ask me "how old are you again?" Theres nothing wrong with being child-like. The problem is if you're being childish.

You can be intelligent, mature, grown, and still be child-like. It can be a great quality in many regards.

My family has actually shown some interest in the Wii-mote. They might tease me a little at first, but I know they'd end up trying it sooner or later themselves.

hmm...it will be hard for disabled people (like myself) to use the Wii remote and the nunchuck thingy...cause my left arm doesnt work and i use my left big toe for the control stick...many of my friends say that i cant play it...but im very good at games...i wonder if they will make a product for disabled peeps

So.. we have what? An hour left?

I really hope they give a release date. If not that then atleast a price. If we get nothing tonight I can only hope we get something better tomorrow here in America. =/

We know when crap happens...

Anyone have a link to a site that will be refreshed/updated?

Is the conference already running?

The japanese conference is... RIGHT NOW!

I just changed my time zone to EDT and the time was 7:30 PM. So the conference should start in half an hour! :)
Hopefully...

It's only about 9:40AM in Japan right now. The site with the event times didn't adjust for current Daylight Savings Time. Until the clocks change again, Japan is 13 hours ahead of EDT, not 14 hours.

So, the meeting starts at 9:00PM EDT.

Ummmmmm.....

I'm in CST and my watch says 7:36pm.

EDIT:
Nice No Witty... dang that daylight-savings.

It's actually 8:40pm Eastern time, 9:40am in Japan so the event has started. I'm scouring boards and blogs as I type in an attempt to find someone who is doing a live update.

Why the hell isn't gamespot streaming this?

I believe you got that wrong... because the show starts a 10am in Japan. Look at the times schedule on previous post page of this thread.

Maybe it's invite only? In Japan? It's certainly no E3.

They'll probably just come up with some short article after the event in Japan or in America tomorrow.

Nintendo is putting events on in all regions: North America, Europe and Japan. The North American one is tomorrow, so they may be waiting to catch that one.

I hope I wasn't the last to know this, but Sega is coming out with a Bleach game for the Wii this winter. It's going to be shown at TGS. I hope it's a fighting game like the GC version of Bleach and not a Action game like the PS2 version.

OK, back to waiting on that conference.

Edit: *cough* Didn't check the next page of replies before submitting mine.

To update with something relevant: Capcom also announced a new Wii game in Famitsu this month--

Biohazard: Umbrella Chronicals. Nothing more than the name and one rough screen, which I haven't actually seen.

Apparently this page will be giving updates: http://www.gwn.com/news/story.php/id/10307/.

Live stream! :D

Is it just me or is that server getting slammed?!?! :biggrin:

Is that really the event? The date is wrong, and it's streaming a video file.

If it were a live stream, it wouldn't have a total file length.

That's a stream of an old press conference guys. =x

...Note to self... Iwata uses a Mac!!!

Hmm... Why is the conference 1:29:33 although it's a live stream? :eyebrow:

As long as they use the remote as a flashlight for dark areas, like in the first target video, I'll be very happy.

http://www.gwn.com/news/story.php/id/10307/

Just started now, so I'm preeetty sure that stream thingy is old. Mystery!
Edit: Gay, I'm confused now. GAF's saying all of this is from the June event, including the blog updates. I think I'll just go back to slouching in my chair.

The hell? How does that even work?

Source to GAF saying that plz

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=764

Full thread's a friggin' mess.

Whatever happens, I'm hoping for EXCITE TRUCK at launch and a surprise announcement of a new Pilotwings. Come on Nintendo. =(

Oh that's ridiculous. They posted photos from the "live stream" - confirmation on total BS.

Wasn't EXCITE TRUCK already on one of those unconfirmed confirmed lists?

Well the site updated with a PIC OF IWATA that's completely different than the scenario that the streamed video had.

EDIT: The 2nd pic changes when I refresh every 5 minutes =O

And by completely different you mean taken directly from the streamed video yes?

Okay I'm blind because
http://media.gwn.com/articles/wiipressbriefing/1.jpg
looks nothing like the one in the streaming june video

EDIT: Okay the pic is gone now. WTF

It's the same. Took this directly from the streaming video, left the Fraps file name intact.

And now they took the photos down off the article :p

Wow, really? The background certainly looks different.

Okay someone shine some light on this situation please. The only time I get to witness updates live it's proven fake

EDIT: LOL the updates are removed

loooooooooooooool

wow

That's comedy. So absolutely no sites have info on what's going on.

Dammit. :doh:

Well, I'll be back in an hour or two... Someone find out what the hell is going on over there 'cross the 'cific

I'm so sorry for posting the wrong video, I have to apologise. :(

CodeNameRevolution.com says ~ "ANNOUNCEMENT: CONFERENCE STARTED, KEYNOTE AT 1:00AM EST, PRESS EVENT ENDS AT 3:00AM EST, PLEASE GO TO http://www.irwebcasting.com/060914/01/ - LIVE BROADCAST"

This is certainly too late. I'm going to go to bed now. It's fu**ing half past 4 in the morning. -_-" They've overdone it with the hype.

So.. we gotta wait a few hours (10 PM PST?) to see this now? Oh well.. Guess I'll go take a nap or catch the news in the morning.

Haha, it's alright. That video stream site and blog tricked a lot of people. ;_; At least there were new Sonic screens released today. That's something.. right? RIGHT? LEFT?

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/ar...3091042600.jpg http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/ar...3091040850.jpg
oof.

And a Rayman trailer.
And a pretty hard to see Resident Evil Wii scan.
e-props to Jonnyram for the scan.

Jeez, these times are really rough. I have to wake up early tomorrow, so I'm gonna be going to bed at 1:00 (EST). I won't have access to the comp until like 1:30 PM tomorrow and I'm extremely anal about missing the beginning of stuff. Eh, whatever.

When the conference airs and IMPORTANT new details are released (e.g. official price, release date), I would encourage someone to start a new thread about it. Oh, and make sure someone hasn't beaten you to the punch before doing so.

Those Sonic screens look gorgeous. It just goes to show that you don't need ABSOLUTE TOP OF THE LINE technology in order to create visually compelling worlds so long as you have the skill and talent.

Exactly. Skillful execution and well presented style can create a very aesthetically appeasing expierance which can compete with titles, graphics wise, even years after release.

Closing this thread as it seems we now have an "official" thread. Whatever.

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