Prison Break (Season 2 Discussion Thread)
 

Same rules as always. Spoiler TAGS MUST BE USED FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAS NOT AIRED YET that deals with ANYTHING PLOT RELATED.

Previous season discussion can be found here http://www.gamingforce.com/forums/me...ghlight=prison

The reason this is being created now is that the series is one of the first series to come back for the FALL -- AUGUST 21st. Already time is almost upon us.

Big News so far is that a new character played by William Fichtner famous for last years Invasion and major films such as The Perfect Storm, Contact, Armageddon, and Black Hawk Down shall play a major role. Oh and not mention he is the godfather to my cousin =p

So we shall see what happens to our prison breakers pretty soon. Such as will TeaBag who got his hand and wrist chopped off make it out alive ;__;

In one of the last scenes in season one we see that the cops are like 100 meters behind the prisoners chasing them down like cats do with mice. I am pretty baffled about this scenario because, how can you escape when the cops are that close? Someone is going to get caught in one of the first episodes, i am sure of it.

Anyway, season one was pretty good. Hope to see more good stuff.

Thanks for the update. I didn't even know it was coming back so early. Wow. Mondays are gonna have a little bit of awesome in them again. And I'd still be able to watch Raw for now. Unfortunate that I've been watching it lately.

I absolutely LOVE this show, and I'm glad that it'll be back. I just hope I can get my new college schedule around it in order to watch it every MOnday. I seriously love this show and the suspense it brought in each episode KILLED me. I can't wait.

blah. i won't be in the country for the first episode. but i've already been anticipating it since end of last season. i thought the ending was too abrupt to be a season finale type cliff hanger.

i can't wait to see what tea-bag does in his circumstance

There is a sneak peak of Season 2 available on DirectTV. I forget what channel.

It seems that for one thing... and regarding Teabag

Tomorrow comin like wut.

And I won't be able to see the first two episodes...

I've never seen that sneak peek or whatever, but you can pretty much tell those things just from the commercials and the trailer. Combine those with interviews available online and stuff, and you can pretty much tell that



The notable exception of course is President Reynolds, since Patricia Wettig basically left the show (she wasn't under contract, and decided to work on the show Brothers & Sisters instead of returning to Prison Break) and they didn't recast the role. I personally think this is really stupid, and while I wouldn't want them to recast the role, they shouldn't have to wait and just hope that the other show gets cancelled just so she can come back (I can't believe they're doing this too, especially after they went through the same thing with C-Note last year).

Well those were just examples that I gave from the peek, there was other stuff, but I don't feel like recalling everything. Anyway they cant just ignore the president now. WTF. How is that going to work lol.

Can someone tell me how Teabag lost his hand because I don't remember that happening.

LoL how can you forgot something that just happened three months ago. Basically, during the escape, TBAG picked up handcuffs off of the cop who they restrained during the window escape, then in the van he attached himself to Michael so he doesnt screw him out of the escape. This fucks up abruzzis plan because he needs only him and scoffield on the plane. So in the barn later on Abruzzi comes out of nowhere with an axe while someone was holding his hand down (I don't remember) and bang off with it. Abruzzi didnt want him tagging along and of course he wanted some revenge for Tbag slicing his neck earlier in the season even though he didn't admit it.

That was an awesome "holy shit" scene.

While Wettig isn't in regular cast anymore, she's still gonna be in guest cast. I wonder for how many episodes though.

Tonight comin like wut.

I thought it was two hours, but it says vanished is on at 9

Also looking forward to the new season premiere. I'm in Germany, so no FOX for me. Fortunately, generous P2P pirates provide me with regular episodes and I hope they're fast enough with the release tonight.

Man, that was a fucking great episode.

The beginning started off a little weak (am I seriously supposed to believe that as close as all those guys were to them, they wait until the last minute to actually take a shot at them?), but once they got past that the show really started to pick up.

One thing that I liked was how Michael really doesn't give a shit about the others anymore. Even after the relationships he's formed with them, all he gives a shit about is him and Lincoln, just like when he first went in to Fox River. I mainly like it because I can't wait to see them all go their own ways, as it'll be interesting to see what they do without Micheal's careful planning.

Agent Mahone seems like a pretty good character. He's like one step down from being Michael's equal, so watching him try to chase him down is pretty fun to watch.

T-Bag (why does everyone keep calling him Teabag?) was pretty boring, as his story was predictable. Even with the predictability though, the way it was executed was seemed kinda cliche (right off the top of my head I can think of scenes on 24 and Buffy when a doctor in a small clinic who isn't skilled enough to perform whatever procedure needed is forced to to do it anyway). Hopefully once they gey past this, he'll get some more interesting storylines.

I'm rethinking them actually keeping Dr. Tancredi alive, because as of now she's pretty useless. Maybe later they'll make her do something interesting, like help out Michael or something, but right now there's really not that much for her character to do. I guess the main thing for her is supposed to be how much trouble will she be in, but that's not really that important overall.

And damn, Veronica. Definitely didn't expect that. In retrospect, I guess it makes sense, since if she did expose Terrence it would essentially end the series, but just the way it happened was pretty shocking.

Again, that was a great episode, a great way to kick off the new season. It had a different feel than season 1, but that just helps keep the show fresh. Next week's episode looks good as well, and I hope they can keep this up fpr a whole season. I honestly don't know if they can keep this up, but I hope they do.

Yeah the premeire owned. Was also shocked by Veronica's death. How sweet was that sequence right after they got civilian clothes. Damn looked so cool.

Oh and the FBI agent Mahone owned as well of course. Next week looks even better to be honest. Can't wait.

The opener was awesome. Veronica's death was quite an OHSHIT moment.

The new agent is shaping up to be a great rival for this season. Should be exciting to watch.

For some reason I'm finding Tancredi's friend there to be a a bit suspicious, but that might just be me.

Mondays are getting awesome again.

OMG!!! I missed it yesterday, how did Veronica die?

While she was at Terrence Steadman's house, she called the cops on her cell phone. When they came, one of the officers pulled his gun out and said "Are you alright, Mr. Steadman?" He then pointed the gun at Veronica and then shot her. Afterwards it was revealed that it wasn't cops that came, but government agents, who said that they receive all calls made to the police station in Blackfoot.

And she's definitely dead too. Not only did they show that her body had been shot in the head and in the chest, but they also took her body out in several bags, which means they cut her up.

I like how the convicts mysteriously escaped from the field. Somebody plz explain why they destroyed the suspension of reality that they had going.

Oh snap!, Thanks man

Prison Breeeaaak! Yay!
 

It's so good to see the series are back! Awesome episode!

They didn't show anything about Haywire or Tweener... why? Yeah, so they're not important, but I want to know what happened to them. It's like those who got left out of the main group are the ones with the more chances of getting away.

Did anyone else notice how Lincoln looked at Abruzzi after the interaction with the man and his daughter? I hope he doesn't do anything stupid. Luckily they have at least one gun! ...and maybe the shotgun from the other guy.

What was that pill agent Mahone had in his pen? Nice character. A smart one like Scoffield! :) At the beginning I thought he'd be a typical antagonist like Bellick or Kellerman... btw whatever happened to LJ?

I liked T-Bag's story too. Would he save his hand!? I love T-Bag! Especially that maniac look he had during the whole episode. :D Once he solves his hand issue, I'd like to see how his story continues. Really. What does he *want* now?

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Damn! How could I forget to mention Veronica's death after everyone commented on it?

Totally unexpected and awesome! AWESOME! Like it wasn't good enough they killed Nick Savvrin! :D

I didn't forget. I never saw it in the first place.

Don't what that pill was... but it's a definite hint that he's got some illness, and it might be used against him at some future episode.

As for T-Bag saving his hand, even if it is somehow successful, wouldn't it take weeks/months for it to be really usable again.. surpassing the duration this season would probably go through? Meh...

As for mysteriously escaping from the field, is it that unreal to have a field (especially by a private airport) lead off into some woods? OSNAP REALITY DESTROYED. Meh.

Well they did mention Tweener and Haywire on the convict fugitive list in the begginiing of the show and if you watched the NEXT EP preview [spoil] they show Tweener and an LJ storyline coming up [spoil]

The only shows I don't watch the previews for is 24 and Smallville for some reason. Seems to ruin the show for me, but Prison Break seems fine. Meh Shrug.

I just finished watching the season premiere. My first thoughts:

I'm in shock, my mind screaming, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

wow just finished watching.
i thought season 2 was going to suck. but first episode was just mind blowing

Damn, and it just got even better. Just finished watching episode 2 and that elevator scene was just crazy, easily among the most intense moments of the entire show so far. If they manage to keep up this level of quality and excitement, this season is going to surpass the first by far.

Also, poor Bellick ... -__-


(damn I almost cried)

The scene with Tweener pulling off getting a ride to Utah was ridiculous. Girlmustbeoutsidehermind. O_o

Wonder what the other characters are up to now... still nothing from Haywire too. It'd be funny if we just see him in the background or something while some other main conversation/event is going on.

Yeah it kind of was ridiculous, but I guess they were just trying to get Tweener and tbag on there way to Utah this ep. I still don't see them forgetting about LJ. And if they do then they will have to go after some type of evidence somewhere to set themselves free of the presidents brother killing. Like Steadmans place.

Last night's episode was definitely awesome.

I really liked T-Bag's scenes, especially the one when he was holding up the Vet. And so far he's had the least amount of interaction with anyone, so I'd say he has the best chance of making it to Utah.

Tweener just strikes me as stupid, and I'm surprised he's gotten as far as he has. I'd be surprised if he actually makes it to Utah, at least with Debra Jean.

As for Michael and Lincoln, they had a good plan to try and get LJ out, but they just couldn't pull it off. If Michael would have at least just shot Mahone in the shoulder or something, they could have gotten away with it, but he didn't want to shoot him at all. Had it been the other way around (Lincoln holding the gun and Michael pulling LJ out), I could definitely see LJ being free now.

They definitely have a lot planned out for this season. Just looking at Michael and Lincoln alone, they have to get some help for Lincoln, try to get the money in Utah, break LJ out in Arizona, and still prove Lincoln's innocence. I had my doubts about where this season could go, but now I don't doubt it at all.

Elevator scene
 

I didn't get it, which gun was the one that fell to the elevator? The real or fake one? Why did Mahone react if they still had the other gun?

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I was surprised to see them running on plain sight of everyone when they were trying to escape. I though they'd be more sneaky! That just adds more action to the series!

Also, I'm looking forward to the new episodes to see what happens with the other guys now that they've gone separate ways. And I *really* want to know what was of Haywire. He's the most likely to be captured first.

How humane of T-Bag not to stab the doctor to death. :)

Also, what happened to Lincoln's father? Will he appear again?

I was under the impression that Mahone saw that it was fake when the gun fell or saw some of the black paint on his hand or something.

Anyways you would think Mahone would have some thought in his mind that Lincoln a supposed big time murderer wouldn't hesitate to shoot him. And maybe he did, but when he saw that Michael had the real gun, and Lincoln had nothing anymore that he should take a risk because he knows Michael really isnt much of a criminal since he put himself in jail on purpose and would be hesistant to shoot.

Yeah, Mahone, yo. He's got a good read on Michael. Good game.

Mahone is badass. Great character addition to the series.

It was the fake one that fell, and the fact that they had a fake gun at all is probably what lead Mahone to think that they would never use a gun on him (otherwise they would have came in with a real one).

As for their father, I imagine he'll probably come back sometime this season, when the time is right. The actor who plays him (Tony Denison) is one of the main characters on The Closer, and since that show has finished shooting its second season, he should be free to come back and do Prison Break.

Really? So he starts struggling with them while they have the *real* gun? Why didn't Lincoln tell Michael to shoot Mahone, then? It was the moment to rescue LJ! They wouldn't have wasted that chance if they had the means to do it right.

Also, another question: how long does it take for a reattached hand to work again? Since I don't know about severed hands... is it really possible to reattach it? Could a vet really have known how to do that? Aren't there nerves and... stuff that you need to put in place? So, will T-Bag be able to use the hand right away or what?

Mahone knew that Michael hasn't got the balls to shoot him, Lincoln couldn't grab the gun off Michael either as he would have had to let go of his son, but if the gun were in Lincoln's hands Mahone may not have grabbed onto LJ's legs as by the looks of things Lincoln would have shot him to save his son.

We have seen the hand reattached but we haven't really seen T-Bag actually meaningfully use it or move the fingers, its just sort of remained limp.

Does anybody believe the vet is still alive? After all, we didn't see what kind of injection T-Bag used on him, or did I miss something here? I don't know, but for some strange reason, I simply refuse to believe that he killed him in cold blood after all he did.

I have to agree because they did give quite a few close camera shots on the supposed dead body sort of implying that something would happen, but I suppose we must wait for the next episode. Personally I think he will wake up and call the cops.

Wow! So Mahone really knew Michael wouldn't shoot him! What a good character. He *knew* how Michael would react after all that studying he did!

Yes, even in the car scene. So, is he driving with one hand only?

No way the doctor still lives. The way he was killed was T-Bag's way of thanking him... not butchering him, that is!

Of course I don't know what he used to kill him... I mean, would there be something poisonous in that room he uses to treat animals that T-Bag would have known would kill a person?

What would *that* say about T-Bag? That he can't even kill someone? I really don't think we'll see that doctor again.

after the first two episodes, i think it's starting to slow down. but the flow of the episodes is pretty nice; pick a few characters each episode and follow their story lines. albeit it does drag it out (i hope it won't drag it out to a third season if unnessecary), but imho it's better than having them stick as a group. i'd really like to see what crappens with tweener.

How did Belleck get that kind of information? And there's no way police would think someone died in that explosion. It was too suspicious and there are no bodies. Sloppy. Just sloppy.

Yeah, I was wondering why Michael still bothered with the car after noticing the bag was gone. Then it was this explosion crap, okay. But on the radar, the cell phone stopped at that location for a while. Minutes later they see the explosion. That's suspicious, indeed. It was pretty sloppy.

Yeah, a bit, but just because a car falls off a bridge doesnt mean it has to explode immediately right?

And what is with that bald guys file. Mahone had it and it seems that it is likely the body parts that Scofield had. How did he get them? How did Mahone have this file? And wtf does he know at the 'crash' site?

I loved the flashbackk scene to the second ep in the elevator. Shows that they knew it was a little weird and will explain it more later.

Eh, last night's episode was alright, but it was kinda pointless for what it achieved in the end. Michael went through all that trouble for something that would, at most, keep the FBI off their trail for about a week. He says they'll be in Mexico by then, but knowing this show, you know that ain't gonna happen.

And now that they're all out, everybody else's stories seem pretty boring. They're definitely dragging those out, because once they're over, they're over. They still have the money to deal with of course, so maybe something good will come of that.

my guess. is that three of them will reach the money at roughly the same time.

WHO IS THIS BALD GUY ON THE FILE? AM I MISSING SOMETHING OR WAS THIS NOT EXPLAINED YET!?

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Also at least one part of Scofields plan is done. One less real crime dood has offed. I think he only really cares about getting rid of TBAG now. I actually though they might carrie out the Fibanacci story a little more.

It was explained in the last episode at the scene of the car wreck. The bald guy is one that got away, a case that our talented FBI agent never finished.

I feel safe in saying that this episode was better than the earlier ones this season. I only have two problems. Why did the two ex-cops pretty much try to kill the two brothers if they really wanted them to lead them to the money? How does T-Bag, I mean, Clyde beat up that guy using one hand?

They never tried to kill the brothers. Dude man TBAG is a serial killer. It's assumed.

Oh and thanks for clarifying that. That makes sense now.

Damn, I'd say that was the best episode so far this season. Every storyline was good, with a level of suspense that was definitely up to par with last season. If they keep this up, this season might turn out to be just as good as the last, and going by the preview for next week, they just might.

I especially loved T-Bag's story. Everything he did was great, from lying his way out of that situation with the car, to falling back into his old habits by trying to get with that guy's daughter. Awesome.

As for that bald guy, I don't think anything about him has been touched on yet. If I had to take a guess though, I think he might not have anything at all to do with Scofield. I think he might have something to do with an old case of Mahone's, maybe someone else who got away or something. I don't know, but it'll all probably be explained in the next few episodes.

EDIT: Oh snap, Acro-nym beat me to it.

As for Bellick and Geary, I don't think they were trying to kill Michael and Lincoln, they were just trying to run them off the road, which they did.

This episode was awesome. It was a lot better than last week's. Too bad the chick had to turn on Michael. ;_; But she aided in reasserting the brothers' awesomeness.

GERMAN ENGINEERING.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Man I've missed every episode this season so far.

I heard there is this thing called the Internets Hitler. I know you are too busy with the Jews though.

Check out this sweet part, although it is sped up way to fast.

How could they!
 

NOOOO!! They killed Abruzzi! One of the few I really wanted to get away. :( :( :( For a moment I though he was going to kill himself, but his actual reaction was much better! Ummm... Maybe I missed it but... how did the FBI know that he was there?

It was nice the way the depicted T-Bag... I mean, he's trying not to get caught yet he can't resist and behaves like... T-Bag. I was hoping they'd show the fight between him and the other guy, though.

What about Tweener? Is the girl just trying to fool him or is that serious? Is *someone* on their way to get him?

I couldn't help but laugh at Geary's reaction as he returns with the tire to the shack and sees what happened! Haha! :D

This episode didn't end with any cliffhanger... huh. What was that about?

In Abruzzi's case, he died because he turned his back on God. Foolish mortal. Oh, that and the FBI set him up through some guy in the mob that didn't want to do time.

In Tweener's case, I think the girl really is naive enough to not notice anything suspicious. I'm actually surprised that when she started acting nervous, he kept his cool. I probably would've snapped.

The Abruzzi death was superb. He really was one of the best characters, but I actually think the coolness factor was heightened by him not being on-screen all the time. It's what you don't know about his mob boss reach and such that makes him such a fascinating character, and I think it's better that they killed him with all that left up to our imaginations.

There's not many times where a character I like has been killed off and I've not felt a bit irritated about it, but on this occasion I'm glad he had such an exit. Better than some scummo like Tbag axing him in the back of the head or something, which to be honest I thought would end up happening. Not specifically of course, but I was expecting Tbag to ultimately catch up with him and off him.

Oh man, that was a good episode! Abruzzi's death was somewhat predictable, but a really nice twist from the obvious outcome we were being directed towards. I'm kinda saddened by how they ended Scofield's relationship with Nika, she was so hot! Heh, I also wonder how Bellick is gonna get out of that predicament, as I'm sure that won't be the last time we see him.

Also, what's with the old man picture at the end? I don't remember ever seeing that character before... Perhaps that will be Scofield's next step, disguising himself as a senior. They were certainly hinting that at the end, how they kept flipping between the pictures of Scofield and that old man.

Oh, so I missed the first 2 episodes and I was wondering, what happend to Sucre and C-Note? As I haven't seen them appear at all in the 3rd episode.

They've pretty much been focusing on different sets of characters in each episode for the stories other than Michael and Lincoln. They had Sucre and C-Note featured pretty prominently last week, so this week they didn't use them at all, instead going back to Abruzzi and Tweener (T-Bag has been in pretty much every episode as well). Haywire is the only one they haven't had a story for yet.

As for their stories, Sucre went to New York to try to stop Maricruz's wedding to his cousin, but when he got there he found out it was in Vegas, not New York. And as for C-Note, he tried to get his family to come with him, but his wife was reluctant to do it, and even called the feds to report him. That's about it for now.

I already asked this up above. Read the thread you post in.

Maybe this is because he doesn't know about Utah.

Like last season, Abruzzi was picked off early and them made his return later. I wouldn't be surprised if he came back later in Season 2.

OH WHAT? He was shot several times by many automatic weapons. Fuck that. He'll be back. Just gotta believe. Same goes with Tony in 24. BELIEVE.

He was pretty much confirmed dead at the end of the episode, he wont be coming back.

When I was re-watching Season 1, I promised my self I wouldn't fall for their damn tricks like this, but this one was like perfect there was no way anyone could have not fell for it. R.I.P. Abruzzi.

But still, they should have some type of follow-up on him. He's the craziest guy of the bunch, and he's just riding around freely? I'm sure they can think of some kind of wacky adventure for him to be in! And I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Silas Weir Mitchell said he was going to be in season 2, so it's just a matter of time before he comes back.

Yeah you will see him, riding by on a bike in the distant corner of some shot while a scene is following some other character. LOL

Shit, this season just keeps getting better and better. Just like last week, they had another great, suspenseful episode that got me out of my seat more than a few times.

First, more T-Bag <3. Seriously, he's like the best character on the show in my opinion. He's just so...slimy, that you just love to hate him. Everything he did on the show tonight got me excited in some way, and I can't wait for more scenes with him. Someone needs to get Robert Knepper an Emmy already.

Michael and Lincoln were great this week as well. Definitely some good action scenes (attacking that guy at the store, manhandling T-Bag and Tweener). It'll be great to see what Michael plans to get the money now that it's not that easy to get to.

Mahone is starting to get annoying, mainly because of this drug thing. I understand them wanting to make him more than just a Scofield clone, but it just seems like they could do it in a better way.

Next week looks like it's gonna be just as good as tonight's episode was, so I can't wait for that. Man, this season started off a little slow, but now its definitely gotten way better, just as good as season 1.

YEah so what drugs were those?

And even though Tbag is a sweet charracter, I don't think Knepper deserves an emmy at all.

How did C-Note escape from that trap a couple of episodes ago?

I'm not sure, but I think he said Midazolam or something like that hen he was talking to the dealer.

I definitely think Robert Knepper should win an Emmy for best supporting actor. If they can give one to William Shatner (whose only good acting now is actually making people believe he can act), they should definitely give one to him.


I think it had to do with the porch light he mentioned to his daughter. He told her to have her mom turn it on by seven or whatever, so that he would know that she's going along with him. But when he went there, the light wasn't on, because his wife was talking to that FBI agent, so that's probably when he just decided to go after the money instead.

But he saw the lights come on. I remember because he turned back, saw them, and had a smirk on his face. Maybe he did run after that, but I don't see the logic.

Oh, well then I don't know. Maybe he just did that so he could get confirmation from her that she still wanted to be with him, and then once he got the money he planned to come back and take her and their daughter away to Mexico or something. Otherwise, he would have just took the money for himself and then left. That's the only thing I can think of that makes sense.

I hope it'll be explained. Too often things like this just get blown over and never referenced again.

He could have at least gotten a car from his house...

Finally got around to watching this awesome episode. Lotsa wow here.

When he was talking to his wife on the phone, it was "in code." When the FBI listened in on the call, the assumed it was some restuarant or something that matches the description perfectly. Towards the end of the episode, the camera showed what he was really referring to (rainbow in his kid's room, then a photograph, and a location in that photograph). It was a nice play. And the plan was to meet in a week (or two?). So he's off on this trip for now I guess.

So, the plan was to meet in a week? Okay. He'll come back (if he's able) and get arrested. That should be fun.

Hmm. Yeah, holy crap. They're fucked. Tonight was an intense episode, so intense I'm almost overwhelmed by their complicated situation. But, damn, the feds are right on their asses. Convenient that the whole crew is back together again, sans german engineering, crazy guy, and now white boy.

I also just don't buy that Asian being such a high-ranking official in the U.S. government, working directly for the President now. So I call bullshit on that. Otherwise, quite a fine, fine episode.

Did she get a call of to the cops somehow? Cause since those are regular cops, I doubt Tween gave away where they were.

So many questions in that preview for next ep going insane.

I think the feds were having cops search areas within the radius. I suppose that this one cop was searching the neighborhood, asking questions, and is finally about to win the lottery.

Like last season's finale, I forsee no way for them to escape this. I'm sure they will somehow, though.

Oh, and I predict Sucre will die. He's got no future anyhow.

Man, Id hate to say it, but this season has been pretty boring...I guess last years anal sex rape a thon can't be topped.

Oh Wentworth :boxing:

I am on da west coast so I havent seen tonights...Sarah and Scoffield better get back together or else I don't know how Im going to get inspiration for my Prison break slasher fics/photoshops

Am I the only one who doesn't buy T-Bag's ability to seduce that lady? The man just reeks of creepy pervert, especially with the rotting hand. How could any woman sit and listen to him talk sexy without being totally disgusted?

She does it by being a creepy, odd lady?

Eh, some parts of tonight's episode worked for me, and some parts didn't. It definitely wasn't as good as the last couple of episodes have been, though.

I don't know if it's good or bad that they're already depending on the "Who will die?" so early in the season. We've already had one death and one capture this season, so to have another death so early in the season seems like they're just piling it on because they're running out of ideas.

And by the way, what's with the website? The last thing we need is for this to become another Lost. I went to it (http://europeangoldfinch.net), and I couldn't really connect it with the show yet. Hopefully it never will be used, but I doubt that.

Yeah, but the difference is that Prison Break is a consistently good to great show and one can not say the same thing to Lost, which is just overall mediocre.

The treasure!
 

It was so good to see Haywire again! What's with the painting of Holland? That guy is with his own thing, like he's not aware everyone is looking for him. I wonder what's his plan for getting away...

I didn't care much for Sara's part of the story. Everything else was so interesting that when near the end of the episode they switch back to her storyline I just got mad... but yeah, something *will* happen. She may discover who Kellerman is, I just hope he doesn't end up killing her afterwards.

I'm really liking how Michael and Lincoln are getting angrier as the episodes progress, especially Lincoln, he's really pissed off! :D

Also... by the end of the episode: how close where they to get Westmoreland's stash? It seemed to me like they won't have enough time to get... if it is there at all.

Huh? What are you talking about? Context, please. What's with that site?

That creepy lady was after Michael, so no, T-Bag didn't seduce her. I'm confused about one thing, though: the part after T-Bag sees she was just playing him, and before the part where Michael goes upstairs... what happened in between? Where was T-Bag? Did the woman call the cops on them? Why didn't he stop her before?

What german engineering? What's that? Is that a character?

Michael mentioned it as the forum where the escapees can communicate.

The lady wanted Lincoln, not Michael. I too am confused about the in-between events, though I'm fairly confident that woman didn't call the cops.


The actor who played John Abruzzi also played a German engineer in recent Volkswagon commercials.

Yeah, that was Abruzzi. Peter Stormare did the "german engineering in da haus, ja" pimp my ride commercials, and I just tend to not care about actors' character names in different settings. Like I still call Dennis Haysbert either David Palmer or Big Brown Bear (because he's HUGE and NO JOKE) even though he's on The Unit now.

Yeah, like Acro-nym said, Michael mentioned it (at least three times, no less), saying it was a place wher they could all communicate if something went wrong (which now, as we can obviously see, it has).

Are you trying to get him sued or something? They were "Un-pimp ze auto" commercials, not that ther show you mentioned. :p

Oooohh!
 

Thanks you all for clearing my doubts. :)

The lady wanted Lincoln? I misunderstud, then. Still, does someone know about the in between part I mentioned? Why was there broken glass on the floor if nothing seemed to have happened?

So what's with the site? It's like some sort of alternate reality, now? Is there some information in there concerning the series? I don't want to be annoying but, can you give me an example of the dialog or context where that is mentioned?

The site is first mentioned, I believe, when Michael is talking to Sucre. He knows Sucre is having trouble after asking him if he got to see Marie-Cruz (I think that's her name). It was referenced as a place they could communicate in case he needs help with anything.

That was a great episode! They just keep me hooked. Two twists in one show!

And I've got to wait three weeks to see it continue.:(

Stupid baseball.

I kinda figured it would be Tweener dying tonight, but I never expected it ot go down like that. I don't know how Mahone expects anyone to actually believe that Tweener killed himself (aside from the broken car windows, there's the question of how he escaped custody in the first place, where did he get the gun from, and how he actually shot himself with handcuffs on), so hopefully they address this in the next episode.

Anyway, aside from that, this episode wasn't really that exciting. Holding those women hostage wasn't that interesting, since they never actually came into play, Governor Tancredi's death seemed totally pointless, and the Sucre thing at the end just seemed stupid, not to mention out of character for him. To top everything off, they tell us we have to wait three weeks for new episode. Meh.

The explanation would probably be that Tweener stole a pistol somehow (either by catching Mahone off guard or grabbing one when someone wasn't looking). Mahone could then say he shot him in self-defense.

Well, that will probably pass for this show, but I still don't really find that believable. Don't forget, there's also the question of why were they out there in the middle of nowhere in the first place.

What happened to all those agents that were with Mahone? I mean when they arrested him at the girls house. lol

And why the fuck would Scofield not see that releasing LJ was purely setup to catch Linc. I suppose maybe he did know, but he knew Linc had to do it regardless.

Yeah. Michael knows. I think Linc knows. But Linc's doing what he thinks is necessary, whether it's a set-up or not.

Yeah, there's just "unbelievables" that just irk me a bit this season. I'm still on about the high-ranking Asian in the White House.

Anywho, I wonder if Kellerman is going to have that change of heart that he always seems to be on the brink of before always letting me down. :p Perhaps going after Sara might be going too far in his opinion...

Damn!
 

They killed Tweener! Nooo! I couldn't believe that! I mean, it was kind of obvious when Mahone got off the road, but still!

I don't think Mahone did expect anything at all; he was all crazy when he shot Tweener, that's why he had one of those pills afterwards. It was a stupid thing to do to kill him, who says he couldn't be persuaded to talk later? I was glad he didn't betray them again!

Was it sure he killed himself? Didn't the asian guy say something about that to Kellerman?

Yeah that was stupid! But it's *too* stupid to actually go on. I imagine they'll solve it in the first 5 minutes of the next episode like they did with so many other problems during the series.

What? Why? :confused:

No, I figured out from the beginning that someone else probably killed him, and just made it look like a suicide (Walt Cummings like what). I just can't figure out why. What exactly did he know that was so critical that they had to kill him?

Baseball (probably most boring sport to watch ever). FOX is going to be showing the World Series for most of October.

I think the main reason was that he was suspicious of Kellerman and was probably going to start some kind of investigation, which may have caused problems. And due to his death, and her father's warning, Tancredi might start on the same path. That's why she's now a target.

Yes that is the reason. And Michael and Sucre probably have a plan to get the money away from tbag and cnote at least. I dont think he knows much about cnote since he aint that bad. But its not his plan to begin with anyway.

So they meanto just confuse you by the whole cop trying to talk sucre to surrendering thing. Holding them up was probably part of Michaels plan to begin with.

Baseball!? Oh, you yanks and your sports! Can't they have that on FOX Sports? Well, I guess that's like the World Cup for you... :(

Nah. Really? It looked like Sucre was serious. He was thinking about his baby, and also, the police girl had been trying to talk him off for a while and we didn't see him talk to Michael before to prove it was their plan. I think he's really trying to screw up.

There would have to be a break sometime anyway. This is the normal time for any show. After 7 or 8 episodes. Baseball doesnt change that.

No wayy
 

Okay...to everyone who said that John Abruzzi is dead I say bah to you. Absolutely not. He's a MOB BOSS!

Sure he was shot several times by government sharp shooters to the chest. But remember...it was to the chest. He's not dumb. He probably wore a bullet vest to protect himself even against Fibbonacci, let alone government sharpshooters.

And also remember he had ties to the government in the case of Nick, so he plays both sides(And not in the sexual way).

Also...his wife was not informed(Unless I missed something) and they didnt have a public funeral on the show...yet.

And.....he wanted to drop off the face of the earth. And how do you do that? Fake your own death. It's quite easy when you have THAT many connections.

He's not cast for season 2...but if my theory holds up he'll be back by season 3 and in a big way.

That theory would work except that T-Bag mentioned his death. And since he wasn't anywhere near the shooting, one can assume he got the information through the news.

Well actually, Nick wasn't connected to the government (he was just a lawyer for Project Justice), so I guess that means Abruzzi wasn't either (Abruzzi was just using him to get to Veronica so he could eventually get to Michael).

Sorry, he's dead.

*Cough* Must I remind you they faked the VPs brothers death too?

It was on the news that HE died too.

When you have ties to the government...it's VERY possible.


If he doesn't return by at least the end of season 3...Then my theories wrong. But no one can tell me otherwise...there's just too much avaliable to say thet he's alive other than "TBag" said he was dead.

There was no funeral procession. Hell, his wife wasn't even told. Not to mention it wasn't a fatal shot that took him down like that of Veronica who took one straight to the head.

They left it open for a return. IT IS possible.

Yes, but he got government cover-up. The FBI would notice if Abruzzi's body disappeared.

Yeah, but they actually had a purpose for doing that. What good would keeping Abruzzi alive do for the FBI?

Okay, but I already disproved your theory on how he had any ties to the government. Unless you can give me some other way in which he was connected (which, based on what's already known, you can't), this isn't very possible.

Okay, how is the fact that he got shot at by like over six people with semi-automatic weapons, with at least three large shots near the heart shown,(check the video here) mean that there wasn't a fatal shot?

And just because they didn't show his wife being told about his death or a funeral procession doesn't mean that they didn't happen. Aside from the time constraints (the show is only 44 minutes, so it's not like they can show every little thing), there are some other things to think about. His wife knew where he was, and was helping him escape, so that itself could be seen as a crime (aiding a fugitive or something), which means they would be rushing to arrest her faster than they would be trying to tell her that her husband is dead. This arrest would obviously delay any funeral that might be had.

Sorry, I just don't see anything supporting him being alive. Making up wild theories may help you cope with his death better, but you're never gonna have any cold hard evidence saying he's alive (you'll just be like naz and his crazy "Tony is still alive" theories).

And what's your cold hard evidence that's he's dead?

Does the term "bullet proof vest" mean anything to you? He was shot in the chest. Not in the head. There's no way it was DEFINATELY a fatal shot.

Does the term "Mob Boss" mean anything? All mob bosses have ties to the government.

If he's dead, he's dead. But they left this open in case they need to bring him back(Like if fans show intrest in the character, they can bring him back) That's not possible with Veronica or Tweener. They both has visable(shown) shots to the head. Now unless I'm missing something here...Abruzzi wasn't shot in the head. And he could have been wearing a bullet proof vest.

Are you(Rockgamer) absolutely positivley certain that he's dead?

I just don't buy it. There's too many possibilities. One is enough. I've said three.

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. How can someone even argue this?

For one thing, the Vice-President's brother was shot in the middle of an empty parking garage. Easily fake able, no witnesses.

Abruzzi, on the other hand, was shot in the open, within view of a few dozen government agents. You are honestly trying to say that after he was shot by a dozen of them, whether of not he was actually wearing a vest, (which is a pretty stupid assumption anyways. Why would someone wear a vest to sneak into a place where no one was expecting him?) that none of the dozens of people there noticed the lack of blood, the labored breathing(vest or not, it's going to hurt to get shot.) and the fact that he wasn't dead? Are you honestly saying that he set the whole thing up with the purpose of faking his death and he has all of those federal agents on his side?

No bulletproof vest can sustain that many shots to the same area and still be effective.

Did you watch the video again? I mean c'mon, you're acting as if the head is the only part where you can get shot and it can be fatal. Getting shot in the heart (which would involve aiming at the chest, which all the agents were), can be just as fatal (if not moreso) as being shot in the head.

What?

I wish I could tell you to stop believing all stereotypes are true, but I've never even heard of this being true of all mob bosses (real or fictional).

No offense to Peter Stormare, but if he was really that popular, they just never would have killed him off in the first place. I mean, he was the only main credited cast member from last year (of the prisoners, anyway) that's been billed as a guest star for this season, so they probably had plans from the beginning of the season to kill him off.

And about the bulletproof vest, it's not like it's designed to take simultaneous semi-automatic gunfire, so do you really think it could withstand all that (and that's if you actually believe he was wearing one, which you have no proof of)? It's not like it's some type of magical device that can withstand all bullets.

YES! That's what I've been trying to tell you!

And they're all wrong.

I JUST watched episode 1 of season 1, just to reiterate and quote what I've been saying.

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Michael: If you were to get out of here, beyond these walls, would you have the people set in place to dissapear forever?

Abruzzi just gives him a stern look and walks away.

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Does that mean, no he doesn't? No. Abruzzi had it all set up. I guarentee...positively...that John Abruzzi will be back.

To answer CloudNine's question...yes...I am saying that all the governments officials and Mahone had connections to Abruzzi.

The writers of this show have you all locked in to the fact that he died. That's what they WANT to you think. Now, think outside the box. Why wouldn't they shoot for his head? They shot for Veronica's. Mahone shot for Tweeners. Hrmm?

Rockgamer...I said that he was a guest star way up there too. I said he was not cast in season 2, and so WHEN he returns in season 3...he WILL return in a big way...or shall I go quote it myself?

This still goes back to my ORIGINAL statement, that Abruzzi wanted to drop off the face of the earth. And like I said...how do you do that? You fake your own death.

I'll keep repeating myself until next September when season 3 begins if I must.

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And they filmed Season 2 what...during the summer? The season premiere of season 2 drew in more viewers than the season premiere OR season finale of season 1. The producers would not have known if the viewers liked Abruzzi...or Tweener(I was beginning to grow to like him too) and they probably planned on killing them(amoung others coming) before they could judge what the fans wanted.

(EDIT**...They never showed Nick take a lethal shot either in the season finale either. Abruzzi had ties to Nick.)

I know for a fact I watched the last two episodes of season 1, and thats all I watched(Until I bought season 1 on DVD) and I got hooked. And when I saw how intricate of a part that Abruzzi had in season 1, thus my conspiracy. He can be if you want to look at it this way, the secondary character in the show between Michael and Lincoln respectivley.

Yeah, he did have people to help him disappear when he got outside the walls. They even showed them to us. They were the Mafia. But since one of them betrayed him, he wound up getting screwed, which led to his death.

Actually, Mahone didn't shoot Tweener in the head, he shot him in the neck (video here). So I guess by your standards he isn't dead either.

Okay, now you think inside the box for a minute. Why would they shoot for his head? If all those FBI agents shot for his head, it would have exploded and there would have been blood everywhere. Aside from the fact that this is on FOX, and not HBO (where they could show something like that), why would they want to blow his face off beyond recognition?

Abruzzi was in a different situation than Nick, Veronica, Tweener, or anyone who has been shot on this show. All those people were shot by one person with a pistol, so a head shot might have been necessary. Abruzzi, on the other hand, was shot by over half a dozen people with semi-automatic weapons, so you wouldn't even need a head shot to take him down.

Terrance Steadman faked his own death, yet was still found, so that's not necessarily true.

Okay, but they had all that time in season 1 to see how fans liked him, so that's not an excuse. Also, even though the premiere of season 2 had ratings, almost every episode since has been getting lower and lower, so most of those new fans probably didn't stick around.

You apparently still don't know the definition of lethal.

Well, I've watched this show since the very first time it came on TV, and in addition to that, I've bought and watched the DVDs as well. So while apparently you have some type of hard-on for Abruzzi that makes you want to believe that he's still alive, all the rest of us realize he's dead and have moved on.

And just because you're trying to make him seem more important than he was in season 1 (like he wasn't just supposed to be Michael's plane bitch) doesn't mean he's actually was important. And besides, you'd have to be stupid not to realize that the secondary character in season 1 was Veronica, as she had almost as much screen time as Michael did (as opposed to Abruzzi, who was gone for half the season).

But really, you're not really addressing most of the points I bring up, and overall you're acting like an idiot. I'm not even going to respond to you after this, because it's not even worth it. Keep acting crazy if you want, but please don't do it here anymore, because you're bringing down the quality of this thread.

You are an idiot to assume that he has ties to the entire FBI like that. If he wanted to fake his death, he would have done so in a much more descrete way that is much easier to cover up. Not in front of a few dozen FBI agents in broad daylight while he is on the way the hotel of the person who put him in prison. You keep saying he was a 'mob boss' and that he's too smart to do something like that. I say that if it happened the way that you keep saying it did, it makes him a pretty idiotic person.

Like Rockgamer said above, he did have connections to disappear forever. Those connections flew away down the runway in season 1.

If he apparently has that high of government connections, he wouldn't have been in prison in the first place. Even disregarding that and he somehow does end up in prison, no smart person uses there contacts to 'disappear' in front of a few dozen agents. It doesn't make any sense for someone that is supposedly so intelligent.

Abruzzi's role in the story has been played out now that his connections are no longer any good to Michael. There would be no point in bringing him back. He is gone. Get over it.

Sorry Chris, but you're completely delusional. Abruzzi is gone.

:(

http://serve.ryansgoblog.com/images/abruzzi_shot.jpg

And while I'm at it, I'm gonna go ahead and say David Palmer aka Big Brown Bear aka Gigantasaurus aka D-Palm aka Dennis Haysbert is still alive. How you might ask? Space ninja time warp voodoo magic. 'Nuf said.

Abruzzi migh be dead (maybe), but you'll never kill off german engineering. A couple dozen bullet wounds to the body ain't gonna stop it.

But..But... he could have had blood packets hidden underneath his jacket timed to explode when they shot at him. You know, to fake out all the people watching. Even though they are all on his payroll. But it doesn't matter. HES ALIVE.

Damn straight.

Okay...who is to ever doubt a television show?

No...seriously.

Who says that someone is dead?

Who really challenges television shows now a days?

If they decide its time for Peter Stomrare, John Abruzzi, to come back. That he did magically live (Ya know...like the tim he got his throat frickin sliced open and couldnt stop bleeding cause he's a hemopheliac, or something like that) then what really stops him from coming back? Just the fact that he got shot by semi automatic weapons to the chest?

No wait...no one answer that because I know I'm right.

If in season 3,...they want to cast him to return nothing can stop that because they'll explain it all and every single person who guarenteed he is dead would feel pretty dumb.

Why? Because its a cliff hanger tv show.

End. Of. Story.

Because I'm not feeling too dumb for saying its a possibility they bring him back down the road, and yes, explain how he survived.

Hrm?

Directed towards Chris, drop the line of discussion or you'll be met with a thread ban. Go ahead and keep whatever theories you want, but it's not an option to drive your argument into the ground when you otherwise fail to sway a single person.

Aha
 

Ok, Chris: let's assume he's alive as you say, and that Mahone told him someone turned on him just as an act for any possible passer by who might have overheard what happened there...

Why would he *want* to come back? If he did that to disappear off the face of the Earth, he was damn successful, what motivation could he have to return in any season at all? He accomplished his goal. In any case they might show him in the last episode of the series being alive somewhere, just for people to know, but that's it.

I don't think there's going to be a third season... at least I hope so, but this is FOX, so... :mad:

By the way, you might want to go to the discussion page on his Wikipedia article too... it says "Current Status: Deceased".

Is Abruzzi's fate all we're going to talk about until Prison Break returns? :( I wanted to know what people thought about Haywire's Holland plan.

Ratner said it was made to be three seasons before it even started.

1) Wikipedia = unreliable. They try to keep it accurate as much as possible...but people can go in an edit it as much as they want. And right now...he is dead on the show. They're not going to say Status: Alive(Or not say he's not dead) because ACCORDING to the show...he died...

okay moving on...

Ratner said that there were three seasons all written(Before they even started filming the first season)...as the FIRST part of a trilogy.

So does that mean they're planning on nine seasons? I dont know what he meant by that. Three seasons as the first part of a trilogy?

Also...*theory* Peter Stormare shall appear on The 4400 in their next season. Hahaha...

If he seriously makes a guest apperance for some weird reason...I'll make sure to come back here and mark out. >.<

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edit......

Haywire's Holland plan?

We all know that he's going to start with this...no...that stick.

And some jerky.

::shrugs::

Oh, yes, I checked on IMDB and it says it's three seasons... most unfortunate, for I can't imagine what can happen in a third season. :( It means that the remaining 13 episodes won't be enough to exonerate Lincoln and expose the conspiracy? :mad:

Just to make it clear: it doesn't count if his appearance is in a flashback, when he *was* alive.

I missed the first ten minutes of the show and, therefore, determined that watching the rest would be pointless. So, could someone PM me if they know of an encore presentation or a way to watch it online?

Great episode. I actually guessed the two main things that happened. Mahones reasons, and Sucres. hehehe.

I just would think that Mahone will not be able to go through with it with most of the other felons mainly because he knows they are innocent for the most part (Sco and Burrows). What is mahones brain going to get from Rendevouz + ?OtherNote?

And damn that killing scene was insane.

The episode was sweet, though I could've done without the lengthy river scene. "I'll stick with ya buddy. Just stay put. [30 minutes later...] ohh, rope!"

And with Mahone, I thought he would be the one to eventually realize the conspiracy. Guess he's in on it. Now who knows? O_o

PB is back once again!
 

So many interesting things happened on this episode!

Lincoln and LJ are together now. It's the first time, think of the information they can share on the conspiracy.

I have a new found love for Sara now that she's into the whole trouble! I loved the scene where the guys in the SUV kill the woman by the phone booth. It showed how fast those guys work. :)

T-Bag going after that woman. I thought when he got out he forgot about that. I find it somewhat hard to believe that having the 5 million he decides to do something risky instead of getting away...

Oh, yes. That scene took the whole episode away from them! At least Sucre didn't turn out to be a traitor like it seemed by the end of the last episode.

I'm really getting tired of Bellick, you know... It was fine at the beginning of the season, but now... hmm...

So Mahone was into the conspiracy? I was shocked when he sat on the car with Kellerman! Wow! And more shocked to see that it was Kellerman the one with authority; I'd have expected them to be equals at least.

Great episode! :)

Great episode, this season rocks, I mean I thought last episode where he killed the kid, i was like WTF!!! But now he is all part of the conspiricy its all f**ked up :biggrin:

lol what are the chances that family still live there, even if they did surely they would of seen the news and know he is on the run??? But wait this is the same script writers that made Lincolns ex walk into the senitors house unarmed.

Last episode was beast. It just kept building up to where you weren't sure what to expect next.. until the end: OH CRAP! Sooo~.... no what? :/

More details on Mahone on top of what we already figured out. Rendezvous next episode. T-Bag getting Jack Bauer'd. C-Note getting his business done. I really hope C-Note succeeds. I mean, he was wrongfully put in prison too. Meanwhile Haywire's been missing for a while, and no updates on Sucre.

Maybe Prison Break will be about breaking out of prison again. :p

Yeah, last night's episode was pretty good. Everyone's story was pretty good all throughout, except for Lincoln and LJ's, which really didn't get good until the very end (but even that was kind of predictable).

Mahone is turning out to be a better character than I thought possible (even though I already thought he was good), and from the reveal at the end of the last episode to what we learned in this episode, he'll definitely be a formidable force.

I can't imagine how will the series continue now! Lincoln was captured! The very reason for the series! Damn! How could he get out of this! Since I'm not from the US, I don't see the preview for next week's episode. Did it show anything about Lincoln?

Also, I was surprised they captured T-Bag too... so I guess he'll be getting back to prison, then? And what was that thing he had in his sock when he was bound to the chair?

I though C-Note would be captured... I was almost sure he was going to be the next one. That was bold how he got reunited with his family. :)

Only the ex-cops got T-Bag. Considering he knows where the money is, I don't think they'll be turning him in anytime soon. And the thing in his sock is the locker key he put there earlier.

ppl usual upload the promos on Youtube

Overall a good episode I thought, the telephone call stand off was nail baiting, great scripting!

John Abruzzi
 

by the way just heard he is alive and da only reason he was casted out this season was becuz he was doin a different show so dey had to write him out until season 3, he was shot by the FBI and dey thought he was dead but he WASNT he was still alive and it was all set up becuz the undertakers hu was takin his body away was in fact part of his mob, and dey took him back to his wife and kids and dey they got out of the country. the FBI already know he his not dead and he is still alive dats y they havnt released a story confirmin his death and it hasnt been mentioned because he got away.also he will either appear right at the end of season 2 to leave a cliffhanger or season 3 becuz he is goin to get in contact wit michael, so to all those hu said he was dead u r wrong he is in fact alive and well out of the country with his family and will be back in end of season 2 in the last 2 minutes or in season 3

If that happens, I will gladly eat my hat, I was really pissed off they killed him so early.

Two things:

1) Source?

2) They have released a story about his death. T-Bag mentions he's dead and wasn't there. How else would he get the information?

I still don't believe it. And somehow Linc and LJ will escape before prison again. My bet.

I hope to God you aren't a dupe of that other crazy guy who kept going on about this (if you are, this will definitely give you that thread ban, if not some other kind of serious action). But even if you aren't, just please stop with this crap already. Unless you're Paul T. Scheuring himself (which, based on the quality of your post, I'm inclined to believe you are not), there's basically no way you could know anything major about the show like this.

Please god, I don't care if you're a lying douche or if you found that on a spoiler site or whatever, just put it under a spoiler tag.

Oh yeah, and you're a lying douche.

Anyways, who's pumped for Prison Break tonight? With Lost going on hiatus after this Wednesday, PB will be back in my books as the #1 show I follow.

Well, you do know that Prison Break is going on hiatus this month as well, right? I think the last new episode shown until next year will be the November 20th (or November 27th, I'm not sure) episode. And there's still no set time for it to come back, though it will probably be in March or so again like they did last season.

I think there official reasoning was something like the show doesn't repeat very well (just like Lost), so instead of showing a few repeats then a new one, they just decided to take it off for a while, and then show a string of new episodes until the finale.

trust man im not liein bout this it is all true he is still alive dats y der has been no funeral no mentionin of it at all he had it all planned out wat to do u really think a mob gangster like him is goin to go and get some1 wen he knows da fbi will b wit him i dnt think so ill put money on it he is still alive as i know he his also lincoln and lj do escape again becuz lincoln dad gets brought back in2 it all and wen the police r drivin dem lincolns dad comes bac and smashes in the police car and gets dem, also kellerman is either goin to be really bad hurt by sara or killed, lj and lincoln will get separted again i think lj is goin wit lincolns dad, maricruz and sucre arrange to meet in 2 weeks in new mexico bellick kills geary but gets seen and is sentanced to 25 years in jail in fox river wat a twist dat is. BUT THE MAIN ONE APART FROM JOHN BEIN ALIVE 2 MORE PRISONERS WILL GET CAUGHT IM NOT NAMING NAMES BECUZ THAT WILL RUIN IT BUT THIS IS IN THE LAST EPISODE BEFORE THE BREAK BUT ANYWAY THEY GET CAUGHT BUT MAIN HEADLINE EVERY1 THEY MANAGE TO ESCAPE AGAIN B4 GETTIN TO FOX RIVER so it ends on a cliffhanger wit dem so who r da 2 i know who dey r but do u? take some guesses

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As much as it pained me to read that, it seems that he may be on to something.

Would it be too much to ask if I requested a moratorium on any reference to John Abruzzi, including any pronoun, alternate name, or title anyone might come up with? This has gotten out of hand.

thank you cloud nine like i said didnt i that john is alive i was also right bout lj and lincoln escaping so u cant tell me im not liein now also like i said 2 peeps r goin to escape b4 dey make it bac to fox river so guys guess hu dey r

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also sorry to dissapoint u der is goin to be a 3rd season with the writer just concentrating on two characters which means MICHAEL and JOHN bein the characters, also der was rumours of lincoln bein killed off at the end of season two to end it but den wen season 3 restarts we will c michael turn to a dark side and revenge his death dats y john comes back in to help michael becuz wit out him he wudnt be alive and out of prison

Man, your writing is terrible. I mean, really *really* terrible. For someone so well informed you sure could write a little better. Damn! x_X

As for the episode...

I surely hope T-Bag isn't planning on ripping his hand off to get away from the police. But I can't see any other way he could escape! What a surprise that Geary turned on Bellick; the good side is that at least they'll be fighting for the money. That means *some* character might get a hold of it.

Why couldn't Michael try a little harder to convince Mahone he's not the bad guy?

Also, good to finally see Lincoln's father. I didn't expect him to have henchmen! I sure was like What!? when I saw all those guys getting off the black van and chasing Linc and LJ!

And they have an infiltrated guy on his organisation... Which makes me wonder: if the whole point of framing Lincoln was to get to his father, and, as it was seen, the Company guys know where he is; why didn't they get Linc's father before? What do they care if he's with his family? Any idea? :confused:

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What's going on with Haywire? Are they suddenly going to show him in the middle of the ocean on his raft with the dog?

k i dont know if you have heard yet but lincolns dad says sara is the key to the conspiracy. this leads to my next point about the plane that there going to get on with sucre and michael in episode 13 they all meet to get on the plane wen michael works out that sara is in trouble so he will stay behind lincoln also decides to stay behind because of what his father said about sara being the key, i might as well tell you this but you might not like it lincoln and michael are going to get caught because they have a plan. they get caught on purpose but then before they get to fox river they break out there has also been rumours that bellick gets put in fox river but after reading the script i have decided that he is dreaming about this

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oh i forgot another thing t-bag will meet up with michael lincoln and sara again and they will join forces

They didn't get Aldo before becuase they couldn't, which leads to your point of framing Linc. They couldn't get Aldo because before they didn't know where he was, and used framing Linc as a means of drawing Aldo out, so that he could be found. The guy was able to infiltrate because Aldo has been drawn out for quite a bit (Since he slipped Steadman's dental records under the door). The henchman is probably 'new to the Aldo's organization'. :P

I believe they care that he's with his family so that they can knock 'em off all at once, rather than take them out one-by-one. They tried to do that before, but now are trying to take advantage of them being all together.

Hope that helps.

All I can say about the fall finale is ‘Is it January yet?” The twist at the end was unexpected and awesome but it does leave me with a question: Mahone was shot in the stomach, right? For some reason I’m getting the impression he was shoot in the shoulder? I know it doesn’t make sense but for some reason that what my mind keeps telling me. (Any body got screens?) Either way because it wasn’t an explicit heart or head or otherwise obviously fatal wound they could still bring him back, for all we know he had vest and was just knocked out by the shock of the bullet, but for now may you rest in peace agent Mahone.

OMG. I mean, we all saw that coming, I hope, but damn; it was still crazy. They did a good job of keeping you convinced of Kellerman's allegiance, but then BAZZAM OOHHHHH BANG BACKSTAB WIN!

I had a feeling since the beginning one of those "inside guys" was gonna befriend the brothers. I had thought Mahone early on, but that changed as the season progressed. And the twist didn't really begin to happen until last episode. Damn, I can't wait... January will be awesome. Good stuff I suppose: I need this "TV break" to catch up on, um, more TV.

I found some things about this episode to be completely idiotic (which I will get to in a minute), but overall it was pretty great. I definitely can't wait until January (though not January 22 like they are advertising, which is just a recap episode).

Okay, so those idiotic things. First off, why were they gonna send Michael and Lincoln right back to the prison they escaped from? I know the probability of them escaping again wouldn't be that high, but it still seems idiotic to send them right back to Fox River.

Second, why was Mahone the only one looking after them during that scene in the tunnel? I know those other guards were helping with that semi, but it seems stupid that they would completely take their eyes off of them. This is made even more idiotic by the earlier scenes with that guy talking about how important their security procedures. He said all that, yet they leave Mahone as the only one watching them?

There are other little things, but I'm not gonna nitpick. Those were just the main things grating on me. But other than those things, it was great episode, with lots of great twists. I can't wait for Prison Break-24 combo to come back and kick the ass of everything else on TV.

I think Kellerman had a couple of inside guys, which allowed Mahone to be the only one watching and for the keys to be left behind.

I thought Kellerman's guys were just those police people that held them up with the semi-truck. But even if some of them were in the security detail that were transporting them, it doesn't explain why no one else was looking after them, especially when they had cars full of people there (they couldn't all be Kellerman's guys, right?).

I keep watching that shot over and over again and all I can conclude is that he either got shot in the heart or just above in the shoulder. When Mahone drops to the floor, you can see a little glisten of liquid on his left breast/shoulder. I will download a HD quality video and look at it again.

About taking them back to Fox River...Since the murder happened in Illinois, and were convicted in Illinois, they have to be held there. Maybe Fox River is the only maximum security prison Illinois has.

About Mahone being the only one chasing the brothers in the tunnel, I credit it to either a specified plan by those that were with Kellerman, or to genuine police stupidity in trying to break down the door that they escaped from, rather than looking for another way after them,

I doubt that (especially since Michael had a choice of prisons to go to after he did his crime), but even if it is true, like the news reporter said, they committed other felonies while on the run, so this goes beyond just Illinois now.

As for the other thing, I'm saying they should have never been able to escape in the first place, since more people should hav been watching them. But this is TV, and they need dramatic effect, so you have to just go with it sometimes.

I think my biggest concern is the random appearance of the Border Patrol. Why did they happen to appear right then? And weren't the brothers a ways from the border? Didn't the reporter say something like forty miles north of the border or something?

Yes. The Border Patrol situation at the beginning did tick me off too. Maybe a random cop or something, but not Border Patrol.

Border Patrol appearing after the FBI agent phoned in saying fugitives were trying to cross the border around that location is indeed suspicious.

So, Prison Break finally came back. And for some reason, I didn't care that much.

Bellick was alright. It was pretty stupid way to set it up (angry black guy asking for dessert, wtf?), but once it going it was actually pretty good. I'll almost go as far as to say that it was the best part about tonight's episode.

As for Mahone, they should have let him die when he got shot. Unless he starts helping Michael and Lincoln too (which would just be stretching things way too much), I don't even see what else he could do. I guess he could still hunt after them as well, but with his family as the only reason to make him keep doing it, it just doesn't seem worth the effort (why care about them now when they didn't seem that important to him before).

And the whole thing with Steadman was just stupid. Considering what happened at the end, it all just seemed like a waste of time. And overall, they're really dragging this plot out to the point of mediocracy.

As for everyone else, they're just not that important plot-wise anymore, and whatever stories they do have going on just seem boring. And unlike Michael and Lincoln, who can be exonerated, everyone else can only end on one of three options (capture, escape, or death), so it's just a matter of time before one of those things happen for all of them. But now that their plots are getting stale, I'm hoping that one of those things will happend sooner rather than later.

I honestly don't see how this can go for another season without becoming incredibly boring. It's already starting to get that way now, so I hope they decide to end it after this season and give the show a proped conclusion. But who knows, maybe they'll introduce something into the plot that will reinvigorate it and actually make a third season not only possible, but good.

yeah, i feel that i'm really only watching it now because i've seen all of it up until now... kinda like how it is with LOST.

if anything, i'm only caring about the michael and lincoln, and somewhat of t-bag's and c-note's situations. i still wanna know what happened to haywire... :tpg:

Although I still feel Belleck's stint in prison was rushed, it's turning out to be interesting TV. I enjoyed the T-Bag scenes. I suspect that Mahone will turn on Kim, a move he's been fighting all season. So, I enjoyed his scenes.

Oddly enough, the main plot of the story was the least likable part. The brothers come close to redemption only to have it lost by the whim of a depressed fool who can't weigh situations properly? And I just feel bad for C-Note. Despite that feeling, I'm not sure where that plot's going or if it will end well at all. (I suspect not.)

This episode was rather disappointing. I'm almost getting the feeling that there will be some magic ticket discovered and used to end this whole show, considering how few options they have. I hope I'm wrong.

I really enjoyed the episode, can't believe the way it turned out for the brothers though, I was thinking call the press that would be a bit to easy.

I'm pleasently surprised Mahone wasnt killed, and now he has it in for Kim. I reckon he will continue to hunt down the fugitives, but not to kill them.

Bellick story is coming along great, is he going to attempt his own little prison break lol.

I actually found michael and lincoln situation the least entertain expect for the incident. Other than that, their story is quickly getting rather old.

Wow. Tonight's episode was awesome. I loved it.

It was awesome when they had the whole Michael vs. Mahone battle of the wits going on, and that was easily the highlight of this episode. It was great, kinda like the L vs. Kira thing in Death Note. Beast.

Yeah, this epsiode was definitely better than last week's. Hijacking that cameraman to release that video was awesome. Also, I guess Sucre and Haywire are way more interesting than C-Note and T-Bag, as I actually enjoyed their segments.

But watching Bellick's scenes made me realize something. Fox River was like the heart of the show back in Season 1, and even though all the main characters managed to get out, it still has potential to have some great stories come out of it. I'm not saying it has to be another break out or something, but I wouldn't mind watching a show just focusing on the stuff going on there.

So is anyone still watching this show?

Tonight's episode was pretty good. I'm glad they put some kinda of close to C-Note's storyline, as it was really getting pretty stale. Also glad to see he's the first one to get caught and not die. It'll be interesting to see how he helps Mahone catch Scofield and the others (obviously it will involve that website, as they mentioned it out of nowhere during the previously on section).

Pope was awesome. I was skeptical about how they could bring him back, but they did a pretty good job. He and Michael have a pretty interesting relationship, so I hope they find a way to bring them together again next season or something.

Now that C-Note is down, they need to end Sucre's story now. Admittedly, it is more interesting now that he's finally with Maricruz, but I still don't see much where they can go with this. Who knows, maybe he'll be the first one to truly escape. By the way, I'm not sure, but that looked like the original Maricruz. I know they had started using a different one, but now that The Nine has been all but officially cancelled, I guess the original actress was available again.

And I don't know what the fuck is going on with T-Bag. I'm glad they ended that stupid family hostage thing, but what is he doing now? I'm guessing he might be the next one to get caught/killed.

So yeah, good stuff. I can definitely see most of the storylines being pretty interesting up until the end of the season, but I still have no idea what they'll do for next season.

Is there officially going to be a third season for this? I still watch this, but and while I enjoy, I'm ready for it to end soon. =/

That T-Bag story is getting mad emo. Are we supposed to start feeling sorry for the guy now? It's like the first time they ever showed history of him. Looks like they have a ways to go with his story maybe.

Glad C-Note didn't die, and I don't think he's going to. He ultimately got his way in prison after all that crap he witnessed in the army, so he sorta never deserved it in the first place. =/

As far as I know, there still hasn't been any official announcement of a third season, though you would think there has been with the way everybody is talking about one. I think there most likely will be one, but unless it manages to get a significant boost in the ratings, I doubt it'll go beyond that.

Also, anybody hear about Tweener possibly going to prison in real life? That's pretty damn ironic.

Overall, a pretty enjoyable episode. My only problem is that I'm not sure that C-Note can really find Michael more effectively than Mahone or Belleck.

I loved watching Kim get beaten.

Prison Break: season three becomes a reality TV series. :tpg:

lol i jumped out of my chair, shouting slap that bitch!!

Best episode of Prison Break! :cool:

This was none stop action, seems like they are really heading for something now. I would be happy for a 3rd season, provided the quality remained the same as the last few weeks. Seriously good writting so far.

Can't the same be said for any Fox show (i.e., 24)?

Back when they were digging for the $5 million at the KK ranch in Utah, Michael told Sucre that if he was ever in trouble to post a message on a certain message board that he had set up. "Something-goldfish.net", I can't quite remember the name. In the "Previously, on Prison Break" opening segment of Monday's episode, they showed Michael saying this to Sucre.

It seemed sort of out of place when they showed the clip, but when C-Note said he'd get Scofield, I started to think. And then I realized that C-Note was standing right there when Michael told Fernando to post a message. Perhaps Benjamin will post a message asking for Michael's help?

Just speculating, that's all that I could come up with.

So it's been a month since the last post here, and the season's winding down with two episodes left...

The last few episodes haven been quite intense with the mind games going on between Mahone and Michael. Just when I thought they'd run out of things to delve into with Michael's plans, they reveal the Greek letter thing. I thought that was pretty cool.

Anyway, showdowns coming. Panama, fight! Also, good call on that web site being used.

Yeah, I thought the whole Greek alphabet plan was pretty clever, too.

For some reason, this week's episode didn't quite hit it with me, unlike two weeks ago. I guess I'm getting tired of the whole T-Bag thing.

I really enjoyed this week's episode and next week's looks like lots of fun.

But I get the feeling that C-Note's story won't end happy?:(

I like how everyone is after T-bag. He is a good character to change focus to. In recent episodes Mahone has also grown on me alot too.

Im glad the season is almost over, it just starting to feel like everyone is running around in circles. I thought it was very nieve for Link to leave Scolfield alone :rolleyes: but i that sense its about time they separated, it was more interesting when he did things by himself.

The show this season seemed almost as if the writers wrote the episodes the week before it aired, there's too many "oh this was about to happen, but now something else screwed it up" situations, it kind of seems sloppy and like stuff was written into the show as a conveinence to explain certain parts of the show, but done kind of sloppy. Don't get me wrong, I love PB, but the past 7 or 8 episodes, while good, just seemed a little rushed IMO.

Does no one want to discuss the season Finale?

Anyway I’m disappointed this episode to me was just a series of contrivances to set up season 3. Examples: Getting let Linc and Sahara off the hook so easily is a move which feel a little bit like a deues ex machana, if Kellermanhad all this evidence why didn’t he bring this up when he was working with the brothers? And after all the drama it felt too neat and clean. The passage of time doesn’t seem to make much sense ether how did Sahara get there in so little time. The big surprise at the end about the company wanting Michael in sona and to breakout left me saying “That does not make any sense?” then looking forward to season 3 and lastly the scene with the general in the lab had an X-files vibe to it which I didn’t like and makes me question where they are going with season 3. On the bright side have Michael Bellickand I assume T-bag and Mahone working to breakout of a prison is a good set up. I’d give it a C.

Yeah wasn't that good of a finale, but I am glad Mahone will still be in it since Fichtner owns.

Oh its Sarah or Sara you weren''t even close. That place is in Africa and ever expanding.

When you honestly think about it, they have set it up to basically do a whole damn repeat of the first season. Except this time the brothers switched roles. I was happy with everything up to and including that Asian guy getting shot (minus the Mari Cruz unsolved dilemma)...then it went straight down the crapper. I will watch next season just to see it come to an end, but I really think they should have taken the high road and ended it this season.

Just finished watching last night, all of season 2 within 1.5 days woohoo! I managed to get 6.5 hours sleep somewhere in there, while my flatmate went about 40 hours with only 1 lol!

Anyway, I thought S2 was super-fast-paced, but lacked the intrigue that carried S1 through. Plus people died like it was a new fad, and I lost count how many car crashes the protagonists' managed to escape unscathed. And they totally botched Haywire's part, leaving it to provide some light comic-relief and nothing else. I love Mahone as a new lead, so much depth to this Benzo addict. Is Kellerman dead?? I always figured it seeing as they don't show his death directly and all, but others thought otherwise until I was like "when did he die?!"

Sona is a prison where they test human beings? Wtf?! Is this like the Island now? Hope not.

Much better finale than the uber stupid season 1.
But theres a strong sense of de ja vu in the air.

Ooh man great show I watched S1 and S2 straight for 2 days. My eyes hurt.
It sucks that Peter Stormare died.