The easiest map by far is the terminal in Dead Air. I got almost 14 minutes on that thing.

As far as the pack goes, I'm slightly disappointed that the SDK didn't come out with it. I know that there are a ton of user-made campaigns just waiting to get the scripting ability for hordes and climax events, so once that rolls around there will be no shortage of new maps to play on.

So, would you forgive me for not being online this weekend if I told you I was getting raped? haha

So what does this expansion cost anyway? I haven't had a chance to pop on live yet :(

It's free~ <3

I found out two things about the Lighthouse map last night.

1.) Mo0 screams like Ned Flanders. He also has a habit of shooting piles of gas canisters next to him, lighting the entire area on fire, and then asks who did that and why.

2.) Fortifying yourself at the top of the tower works really well, as long as you have at least one other member there too. You bring all the gas tanks up to the base and chuck them out as you need them. You also have the pipe bombs at your feet, so you can hold off the regular zombies pretty easily. When thats all done, you climb up to the actual light and theres a mess of molotovs up there to keep you going.

The only serious problem I've had is Tanks knocking me clear off the building and into the lake. Its happened more than once (including being the last one left, with 70 health and a shitload of ammo, blowing up more people than at the end of the last Rambo movie) and its a serious load of crap when it happens.

Also: Perhaps this is a Xbox only glitch - but has anyone noticed that when someone standing next to you gets pounced on by a Hunter or grabbed by a Smoker, you get knocked back in slow-motion? Everything else runs fine - but you're just stumbling at slow speed? It really pisses me off since its obviously not suppose to work that way.

I've found the top of the lighthouse to be shitty since if someone gets pounced by a hunter the knockback on you can actually knock you off the ledge. It happened in one game I was playing where one dude was pounced, two of us were knocked off the ledge (and stuck in the HELP ME UP bullshit) and then the tank showed up. :(

Best spot we found was sitting on top of the big gas tanks in the room where you activate the horde. There's pills, molotovs/pipebombs, gas tanks, and it's up high so infected have a hard time reaching you. We were able to take out all non-tank enemies with the pistols, then would just unload on the tank with autoshotties to take him out really quick. We finally got boned when we got hit by a boomer and didn't hear the tank music until he was punching all four of us in the face at once (around 9 minutes in). :(

While this hasn't happened to me yet - I found the whole thing of having two people ontop works, since the horde splits its attention to where-ever the other two players are, and if one of the guys on the roof gets pounced on, the other can knock the Hunter off or whatever. Again, this is just from one night of playing, I'm still looking for some exploits.

That IS a really good spot - the problem is you can only fit one or two people on it. I was surprised as hell to see the horde come busting through the brick wall next to the shelves though.

I think the top of the lighthouse is a horrible place because of how the game can mix up the 4 specialists it spawns at once. It's very possible for you to get 2 or even 3 smokers at a time, and if two people get smokered off the top of the lighthouse it all goes to hell rather quickly.

The room with the broken staircase I've found to be the best for that map, though I don't care for the map itself.

I must be way more trigger happy than the rest of you because I've never come across 2 or 3 smokers at a time.

Some of the mixes are pretty genius.

I was just in a round where one person got smokered away, and before we could even turn to shoot the smoker or melee him out of it three hunters pounced the rest of us at the exact same moment.

Brilliant.

I

WAS NOT

SHOOTING

THOSE CANISTERS

YOU FILTHY LIAR

So if I were to rent or buy this, would you faggots play with me? It seems like the only time I see Lehah on he's watching movies. When the hell do you even play this game?

I've been on recently at early AM hours west coast time (like 6-8AM) since girlfriend hassles me if I want to play at night but we get up for work at 5 AM.

You can fit two in the corner and two between the two pipes that come out of the wall. If you not in the corner spot you have to watch out for smokers that bust through that brick wall, though.

Absolutely. The game becomes fresh when you introduce new players and show them the ropes.

Everyone reacts to that shit differently, which makes playing with new people awesome.

For instance, I have this conflicting set of emotions every time a Tank shows up.

I want to fight it. But I want to run! So I attempt to do both at once while screaming!

It doesn't work very well.

I was pretty happy when I discovered that you could hide on top of the boilers, but, yeah, those brick walls must actually be made out of styrofoam.

I'm curious to know if people have tried the base floor of the lighthouse itself at all.

Do you mean the area with the little spiral staircase?

We did that last night, and while it worked okay, its biggest problem is that there are too many ways for Infected to get in. There's the door and window on one side, and two breakable sections of wall on two more sides. The fourth wall that doesn't have a breakable wall is smack dab in the middle of two entry points so it's pretty useless. The biggest problem, essentially, is that it gets cramped really fast and fire tends to hit as many players as it does Infected.

That strategy DID get us our Bronze time on that map last night, if I recall correctly.

Additional Spam:
One of the randoms we played with last night got boomered, huntered, smokered, and molotov'd (my bad!) in the span of about 10 seconds.

Those specials are fuckin' EEEEEEEEVIL.

And in case anyone hasn't seen this, Valve posted a graph of the spawn times (not including the "lulls" where they make nothing spawn for a while) as the rounds get longer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/09...pawn-graph.jpg

While the lulls apparently get longer as time goes on, the likelihood that most people see them isn't too great. Which sucks. :(

Seeing that graph say that tanks will eventually start showing up about every 5 seconds scares the shit out of me.

Here's the link to the entire blog post about their work on Survival mode if anyone's interested.

I think what I'd like to see now is a handicap system for points, because a team of randoms and I were doing well against another team until one and then two people left.

It's like, wow, you beat us! With alltalk on! 4 versus 2! Let's throw you a parade!

DURNSK MZOMBIE NIGHT FUCK YES

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I should hopefully have some free time this weekend. I would hope. Anyway, I've had this game for a while on PC but I've yet to play it. I'm sure you folks would make it a blast. =)

You are a terrible man with horrendous opinions. ;_;

I had a blast last night. Apparently someone here doesn't like my impersonation of you. No sense of humor. :(

Trying to find the most bizarre places to hide has trumped actually surviving for me.

I'd be down for versus mode anytime. I'm still not sure about the death toll map as far as being a hunter goes. A lot of rooftops that -could- be used for high damage pounces are inaccessible. On top of that I've hit the 'ceiling' of the game map on several occasions as well.

Haven't played Dead Air yet...so if you see me online in the gamingforce group, give me a holler and I'll be happy to join up.

This graph is the bane of my existence. My cousin and I just got done playing through a couple of rounds in Survival in the No Mercy map and we were getting skeeted on at about the 2-minute mark. I can't even imagine going through this shit without a good team.

Skills, Tritoch, Chaotic, LeHah, Paco, one of Chaotic's friends, Plarom, and I just spent 2 and a half hours wrecking each other's shit in Versus. Versus with alltalk is fucking FANTASTIC, because no one can coordinate anything and it's just 8 people talking shit to each other.

The best part was how we tied 3 times, because we kept on getting to the SAME POINTS in the levels before we killed each other. Skills also managed to take out the entire team as the tank by throwing a TRASH CAN right down an alley.

Anyone who has Left 4 Dead, get in on one of these. Anyone who has it for PC, get it for 360 you faggot. :mad: