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Lacerta Aug 31, 2008 12:10 PM

http://oic.houyokusen.com/vesperiaget.jpg

Last copy.

I had to stalk some guy who had three in his arms because I couldn't see any copies of Vesperia anywhere, and plus I wondered what game someone would want three of.

Apparently Fry's Electronics has them, but the one here only had four and did not put them out until someone asked if they had any.

I don't have the time to get into this game right now though, so it'll have to wait for the next weekend or somewhere along there. Nevermind, getting annoyed by Castle Crashers and I need a break from it.

The Plane Is A Tiger Aug 31, 2008 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthJag (Post 642301)
Just beat that wolf-type monster in Ehmead Hill. Dunno about you guys but for me, that was a fairly difficult battle, even hitting Over Limit as often as I could. I had done only minimal level grinding (was at 16 before hand) and totally got my ass handed to me. Even when I rose to level 18 before the fight it was still crazy hard.

Yeah, that wolf boss was tough. I was only at 15-16 when I fought him and I probably would've lost if I hadn't already fought him twice in the demo (died the first time, but refused to lose to a demo boss). I just made it to Capua Torim and I think so far Zagi is still the hardest, though.

Zagi:
Zagi's also the only boss who I've missed the achievements for. I actually managed to complete the secret mission for knocking him off the boat, but then he slaughtered me so no achievement.

Kagosin Aug 31, 2008 12:51 PM

One of the reasons why that boss was fairly difficult was because of the situation of having a high attack rating along with being able to string multiple moves in a short amount of time. I've had a situation where it just took down 2 of my characters in one go, because it did a bite attack, and then immediately after it decided to do a swing around, and then charge while they were stunned.

Though employing the use of the flowers around in the field makes a complete difference. Sure the possibility of having yourself stunned along with the boss, but during that time, the rest of your group can hammer on damage without worry.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Aug 31, 2008 01:36 PM

Keep in mind there's a title (and therefore, achievement and completionism thing) for doing all the secret missions in ONE PLAYTHROUGH, so getting all of them over the course of two ain't gonna cut it.

Sousuke Aug 31, 2008 02:21 PM

I just left Ehmead Hill, and yeah. That wolf boss beat me down the first time. I tried again right away though, and managed to take him down. Only level 14-15 too, I think. A few close calls, but I got it.

Also, I assume the Secret Mission Achievements are listed in order? If so, I've got all three so far.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Aug 31, 2008 02:25 PM

Achievements numbered 27 through 49 inclusive are all secret mission achievements, so there's 23 of 'em. 50 is the 0 point VESPERIA MASTER achievement.

Sousuke Aug 31, 2008 02:46 PM

I mean, do the secret missions appear in order by number in the game? I won't run into say, secret mission 7 before secret mission 6?

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Aug 31, 2008 02:48 PM

Well, no. That wouldn't make a whole lot of sense now, would it, especially in a really linear game such as this? They are numbered chronologically as you encounter them. You miss one, you've missed it, period.

The Plane Is A Tiger Aug 31, 2008 02:55 PM

I didn't really expect to get too many achievements out of Vesperia anyway, considering there are always a few really easy to miss titles/skits/items. The secret missions are nifty, though I wish the game told you about them at the first boss rather than waiting until you've gotten one. I only discovered them because I saw Skills had 5 achievement points, but I was farther along than him.

Lacerta Aug 31, 2008 03:09 PM

It's something you have to plan for. It will take at least 2 or 3 runs to 1000 it. Maybe more depending on how you handle specific achievements.

Some of the tricky achievements and titles have little tricks to them though which make them not as painful.

A lot of events in the game have a tiny time-frame and are easily missed by not sleeping at every Inn twice or using particular party setups in certain places.

The Plane Is A Tiger Aug 31, 2008 04:03 PM

Does anyone know what items like Glasses and Sunglasses do? They're listed as key items, but marked for certain people and they don't seem to be equippable or change appearance in battle.

Lacerta Aug 31, 2008 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tritoch (Post 642365)
Does anyone know what items like Glasses and Sunglasses do? They're listed as key items, but marked for certain people and they don't seem to be equippable or change appearance in battle.

Menu -> Status -> Attachment

?

The Plane Is A Tiger Aug 31, 2008 04:17 PM

Ah, that works. I completely forgot about the attachment slot under character details.

SouthJag Aug 31, 2008 10:08 PM

Any word on an OST being ripped or released? Did it come with the LE?

Lacerta Aug 31, 2008 10:50 PM

LE's bonuses are shit.

Kinda. Although it doesn't have what you're looking for.

Anyway, the soundtrack has been out since August 20th. I believe it has already been recently released by #gamemp3s

It (the torrent) also has the recent Tales of Series Battle Arrange Tracks, which contains some neat remixes of you know, battle tracks.

Sousuke Sep 1, 2008 12:23 AM

The Tales Series Battle Arrange Tracks is a totally different CD from what you get in the LE. You get the 'Tales 10th Anniversary Soundtrack Vol. 1', which is mostly music from Vesperia, but has tracks from Phantasia, Destiny, Symphonia, and Abyss as well.

I can make a rip of it in the morning when I'm not so tired, and I know what I'm actually doing. I'll let you know when it's done.

Lacerta Sep 1, 2008 07:33 AM

Well as you can see, it contains 22 tracks total: 12 from Vesperia, 2 from Phantasia, 2 from Destiny, 4 from Symphonia, and 2 from Abyss.

They attached this on a piece of paper track list with a reason for removing three tracks from the original cd (2 vesperia and 1 abyss ).

It also goes to a website for SOMETHING SPECIAL

Spoiler:
They haven't decided yet


The previous tales series tracks are as is from their respective versions, while the Vesperia tracks are "extended and remastered"

Sousuke Sep 1, 2008 10:23 AM

Yep. I've just ripped it, and I was lucky enough that it was pre-tagged. The only thing missing was the album art, so I grabbed your CD scan from VGMdb, Lace. Saves me from scanning it myself. Hope you don't mind. :3:

Anyway, for those who didn't get the LE and want the extra soundtrack, check out my journal. I don't want to derail the thread with it.

> link

Lacerta Sep 1, 2008 10:35 AM

Sorry you're not allowed to use my scan :mad:

I kid.

Anyway, anyone who is trying to follow the guide (or anything about buying it) should be wary that it is missing quite a bit of information, and lacking in quite a few areas. They also have incorrect information regarding how to complete some secret missions and stuff.

The bad print edition might also still be floating around too. It skips 30~40 pages due to a screw up and instead repeats the past 30-40 pages again.

Cooking is somewhat different this time around, since while you get some recipes from the amazing Wonder Chef, a good chunk of them come from your party members becoming quite proficient in a certain recipe themselves.

Also used the free packages I had from the Japanese DLC, and while some of the skill trials are useful, they are mostly worthless in Hard Mode.

Is it just me or is Type C font the only good font?

Sousuke Sep 1, 2008 11:36 AM

I checked out the other two fonts, and... Well, I didn't like the B-font at all, and found the C-font to be too big for my liking. I just stuck with the default one.

As for cooking--I know you can get new recipes by being proficient and such, but does it have to be a specific character, or can you use any of them?

Lacerta Sep 1, 2008 11:59 AM

Well, the titles for cooking masters luckily this time around are given in a set, so you can have just one person master all the recipes.

Earning them however, is based on a specific character mastering a specific recipe.

Like Estelle becoming so good at Sandwiches you get Rice Balls. Yuri + Rice Balls = Beef Bowl. Karol + Beef Bowl = Omelette Rice

As an aside, some Artes have hidden properties to them that become stronger the more uses that Arte has (some skills require 999 uses). This isn't documented in the guide though.

Sousuke Sep 1, 2008 01:25 PM

Ouch. I knew about the cooking titles, so I've been only cooking with Yuri. I had a feeling I should've mixed it up a little. Damn.

Lacerta Sep 1, 2008 01:33 PM

The good thing I guess is not all recipes have to actually be Master! mastered, but at least near mastery.

There is also some guy hacking Vesperia. Don't know how, don't know if Namco intends to fix or ban him (all of Japan has been reporting him like what).

He basically got all the hard / endgame achievements without even being a few hours into the game (this includes somehow setting a record for beating the game at 0.00 but not having an achievement for beating the game).

DLC From the Future (aka what's on JP and not yet on US as of 9:24 AM on 9/4/08):

200 MSP - Lv Up +5 (3 Use)
200 MSP - Lv Up +5 (4 Use)
300 MSP - 300k Gald (2 Use)
300 MSP - Lv Up +10 (2 Use)
200 MSP - Synthesis Set 2
200 MSP - TP Recipe Set
200MSP - Customized Pack: Yuri [Contains Title: Certified Soldier, Tank Top Lover, True Knight and Attachment: Black Hat, Sunglasses, Large Pipe]
300 MSP - Customized Pack: Estelle [Contains Title: Gracious Waitress, Dedicated Paramedic, Massage Therapist and Attachments: Tiara, Glasses, Angel Outfit]
200 MSP - Valuables Set [Stuff like Moon Selector, S Flag, etc]

Not yet released but will be sometime be added:

Customize Pack: Karol [Contains Title: Lunch Lady, Towel Fanatic, Golden Soldier and Attachment: Cure Plaster, Small Pipe, Child's Sunglasses]
Customize Pack: Rita [Contains Title: Kitty Cat Waitress, Seeker, Fashionista and Attachment: Mystic Gem, Sacred Rope, Devil Outfit]
Customize Pack: Raven: [Contains Title: Shining Star, Gentleman, Spa Manager and Attachment: Straw Mask, Calabash Potion, Blindfold]
Customize Pack: Judith: [Contains Title: Into The Sky, Glamorous Waitress, Enchanting Beauty and Attachment: Hairpins, Visor, Antenna Guard]
Customize Pack: Repede [Contains Attachment: Pork Chop, Overdrive Warrior, Overdrive Princess, Overdrive Researcher, Overdrive Kid, Overdrive Old Man, Overdrive Lady, Doggy Jerky]
Battle Support Item Pack: Magic Lens, Life Bottle, Cure Bottle, Syrup Bottle, Nectar Bottle, Limit Bottle x 10 and All-Divide, Hourglass x 3
10,000 Chips: Self explanatory don't you think?
Herb Set: Sage, Savory, Lavender, Verbena, Chamomile, Basil, Saffron x 10 Red Sage, Red Savory, Red Lavender, Red Verbena, Red Chamomile, Red Basil, Red Saffron x 5 [Not sure if this was released yet]
Synthesis Set 3

Credit for finding these goes to Lynxara who took the time to write them down from the ParterNet debug service for Vesperia.


All DLC can be used once per play-through. Obviously some stuff has no point after the first use, but some stuff does.

If there wasn't an option to carry over your entire inventory (except valuables) to the next game then the Gald might have some value there.

Tankalex_Storm Sep 6, 2008 12:08 AM

So I was thinking about getting this but I'm not really sure about a couple of things, for starters, can anyone tell me how this stacks up against the previous Tales games like Symphonia or Abyss? Also, are there any new features besides the unlockable content you can get online?

The Plane Is A Tiger Sep 6, 2008 12:14 AM

It's basically Abyss enhanced. The biggest improvement I've noticed (aside from the world map not being a glitchy mess) is that you learn battle skills from your weapons and sub equipment rather than seemingly at random. Also, you can synthesize equipment in shops now, and some of it is solely for appearance changing stuff like hats and glasses.

Plot-wise the game starts out a lot better than Abyss. Don't get me wrong, I loved it, but the first 10 hours or so of Abyss weren't that great. Vesperia starts off good and hasn't slowed down yet where I'm at (roughly 25% complete).


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