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Shively Jul 11, 2008 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyrus XIII (Post 218098)
That English-man twist for the Penguin sounds like a good idea, considering the overly eloquent/snobish style he's often been portrayed with.

I really know nothing about Ledger, except that he seems to be good enough an actor to star in an Ang Lee movie - that will have to do for now. Originally I was hoping for Steve Buscemi who sports both the looks and the talent for the Joker or maybe Josh Lucas, if they wanted someone younger. I believe Lucas is still in talks for the role of Harvey Dent?

I agree but lets hope they keep the same guy pl;aying batman. I've always thought the first two Batman movies were great with Micheal Keaton
but got really campy after he left..

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Originally Posted by BigHairyFeet (Post 622687)
Batman is the first of the superhero movies that interested me. I think it's neat how Batman has all this incredible equipment, while the Joker just uses a knife and a submachine gun, yet still poses a really serious threat.



That just goes to show that if Batman had only a gun and knife he would be no match for the joker!!

Diversion Jul 11, 2008 01:54 PM

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Looks like paying attention to the viral marketing paid off: I get an early viewing!

Diversion Jul 11, 2008 02:55 PM

Link regarding the promotion: Dark Knight Viral Awards Hardcore Fans With Free Screening | /Film

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 11, 2008 04:36 PM

Movie Exec #1: Hey, how do we make our movie more successful?

Movie Exec #2: How about we have people use word of mouth to promote it, to get the public interested and expecting it long before the movie is finished!

Movie Exec #1: Thats a great idea - but its not enough...

Movie Exec #3: How about we show the movie free to a bunch of fans, thereby cutting our income and help hurt the movie!

Movie Exec #2: Genius!

Movie Exec #1: No wonder we get the big bucks!

Movie Exec #2: Yeah!

Movie Exec #3: I did the same thing with Serenity and look how much money THAT movie made!

Wall Feces Jul 11, 2008 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah (Post 625851)
Movie Exec #1: Hey, how do we make our movie more successful?

Movie Exec #2: How about we have people use word of mouth to promote it, to get the public interested and expecting it long before the movie is finished!

Movie Exec #1: Thats a great idea - but its not enough...

Movie Exec #3: How about we show the movie free to a bunch of fans, thereby cutting our income and help hurt the movie!

Movie Exec #2: Genius!

Movie Exec #1: No wonder we get the big bucks!

Movie Exec #2: Yeah!

Movie Exec #3: I did the same thing with Serenity and look how much money THAT movie made!

This would be funny and relevant if TDK was a niche film as opposed to a summer blockbuster poised to rake in hundreds of millions of dollars. Alas, it's just another useless troll.

I don't think it's been posted yet, but another poster dropped a couple of days ago, and like every other poster in this ad campaign, it's brilliant:

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3...htver15hp3.jpg


Also, if you head over to the main page of the movie, all of the posters have been "vandalized" by the Joker. Awesome.

The Dark Knight

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 11, 2008 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sewer Overflow (Post 625859)
This would be funny and relevant if TDK was a niche film as opposed to a summer blockbuster poised to rake in hundreds of millions of dollar.

The logic stands - why would you undercut yourself by letting the fans see the movie for free? You wouldn't.

Doctors didn't remove Temari's gallbladder for free. Lawyers don't go to trial for free. Why would you let people see a movie for free? Its stupid.

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Originally Posted by Sewer Overflow (Post 625859)
Alas, it's just another useless troll.

Its all well and good you know words like TROLL but you obviously don't know WHY they *don't* work here. I *explained* the problem and why it doesn't work and you happened to not like it. I assume because you're one of the people that dressed up as the Joker and ran around like a goober?

Oh, so you're *biased* against the facts. Clever for you, I suppose.

Viral Marketing doesn't work for one simple reason - when you take marketing away from its context, no one knows what you're selling.

Wall Feces Jul 11, 2008 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah (Post 625873)
The logic stands - why would you undercut yourself by letting the fans see the movie for free? You wouldn't.

Doctors didn't remove Temari's gallbladder for free. Lawyers don't go to trial for free. Why would you let people see a movie for free? Its stupid.

Free promotion. Same reason why viral marketing works, but I'll get to that shortly. The few thousand they will lose in these free tickets pales in comparison to the money they will save with the free promotion they will be getting from the people who will get to see the movie for free. All of whom have probably raved about how pumped they are to their friends, and then their friends have told their friends, and the cycle continues.

So no, the logic actually doesn't stand. Especially not for a movie like The Dark Knight. For Serenity, maybe, because it was a niche film with a small fanbase as it was, but even then, the free promotion it probably got from the viewers who got free tickets probably gave it a little extra push it wouldn't have otherwise had.

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Its all well and good you know words like TROLL but you obviously don't know WHY they *don't* work here. I *explained* the problem and why it doesn't work and you happened to not like it. I assume because you're one of the people that dressed up as the Joker and ran around like a goober?
You didn't *explain* anything, you simply fagged up yet another perfectly good thread.

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Oh, so you're *biased* against the facts. Clever for you, I suppose.
http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/phot...99445_3768.jpg

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Viral Marketing doesn't work for one simple reason - when you take marketing away from its context, no one knows what you're selling.
LeHah dealing in absolutes? What a shock!

How does it flat-out not work? This is just one example, but Cloverfield wouldn't have been nearly as successful as it was if it wasn't for the viral marketing campaign that it had. In the narrow-minded context you put it in, you'd be correct, but then you're missing whole point of viral marketing - To raise awareness and brew curiosity and interest, and then spread it to others. Allow me to fix your quote for you:

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Viral Marketing doesn't work for one simple reason - I live in my mom's basement.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 11, 2008 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sewer Overflow (Post 625889)
Free promotion.

Free promotion is when you hand out free samples of a product, so they know if they want to buy it.

When you jump in front of cars dressed as a clown, people don't know if you're some douche in make-up or Ronald McDonald or Cesar Romero come back from the dead.

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Originally Posted by Sewer Overflow (Post 625889)
The few thousand they will lose in these free tickets pales in comparison to the money they will save with the free promotion they will be getting from the people who will get to see the movie for free.

I don't see how losing "a few thousand" is reasonable. The movie is going to do well - so why would you want to give up MORE money?

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Originally Posted by Sewer Overflow (Post 625889)
All of whom have probably raved about how pumped they are to their friends, and then their friends have told their friends, and the cycle continues.

Totally different subject - but how is this any different than word of mouth? Warner Bros depended upon that for countless movies - so why invest in a loss in ticket sales?

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Originally Posted by Sewer Overflow (Post 625889)
So no, the logic actually doesn't stand. Especially not for a movie like The Dark Knight. For Serenity, maybe, because it was a niche film with a small fanbase as it was

A loss of money is a loss of money is a loss of money.

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Originally Posted by Sewer Overflow (Post 625889)
but even then, the free promotion it probably got from the viewers who got free tickets probably gave it a little extra push it wouldn't have otherwise had.

To tell who? The fans?

Wait, they already saw it.

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Originally Posted by Sewer Overflow (Post 625889)
You didn't *explain* anything, you simply fagged up yet another perfectly good thread.

Oh, so you decide that calling me a troll after explaining my point - and then acting it yourself is somehow defensible? I see that Keene education went far.

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Originally Posted by Sewer Overflow (Post 625889)
How does it flat-out not work? This is just one example, but Cloverfield wouldn't have been nearly as successful as it was if it wasn't for the viral marketing campaign that it had.

And what was that? Monsters smashing buildings? I must have missed that.

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Originally Posted by Sewer Overflow (Post 625889)
Allow me to fix your quote for you:

Since you're not in the mix since I don't talk to you since you're an internet genius - I live with lesbians now, thank you.

And yes, one of them is attractive.

Kolba Jul 11, 2008 07:36 PM

They weren't lesbians until you moved in though, right?

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Lehah are you just upset that you didn't jump in front of any cars dressed as a clown?

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 11, 2008 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kolba (Post 625905)
They weren't lesbians until you moved in though, right?

To coin a good cartoon based off of a terrible movie - "They became lesbians because they got the best man anyone could ever have."

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Originally Posted by Kolba (Post 625905)
Lehah are you just upset that you didn't jump in front of any cars dressed as a clown?

No, I'm upset I couldn't dress you like a clown and push you out into highway traffic. :(

Pokey Jul 11, 2008 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sewer Overflow (Post 625859)

a great poster (except for the ugly 'The Dark Knight' title plastered on there)

speaking of that, anyone know where you could buy this poster? i've been searching everywhere for the longest time (including ebay) :tpg:

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 11, 2008 09:04 PM

It looks like a Bus Terminal poster. Wait a week after the movie is out - if thats what it is, they flood Ebay for a month and then are never seen again.

Para Jul 11, 2008 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Diversion (Post 625793)
Looks like paying attention to the viral marketing paid off: I get an early viewing!

VERY NICE.

I was wondering anyone got in on the Joker's loot.

Animechanic Jul 12, 2008 01:05 AM

Probably been stated already, but the 3rd trailer very clearly shows a barrel of liquid being tipped over and Harvey Dent lying left-side-down on a floor that appears to be covered in the same (most likely flammable) liquid. So odds are definitely good that we'll see the creation of Two-Face during this movie.

Harvey Dent's quote at the end of the trailer is pretty blatant foreshadowing too. "You either die a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." Gee Harv, I wonder which of those you'll do.

Edit: Derp. Went back a couple pages and read the article I missed where they interviewed Eckhart. I had no idea that Two-Face was actually featured in this movie. I thought maybe they'd just burn Dent and set him up as a villain in the next one.

WolfDemon Jul 12, 2008 08:19 PM

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...untitled-3.jpg

Something I noticed watching the trailer. Can't see it that well, but you can see some of the burns. Also, that side of his suit is messed up.

SpaceOddity Jul 13, 2008 01:27 AM

I guess someone managed to take a few cell phone pictures of the film, and
Spoiler:
it looks like the "leaked" Two-Face photo posted in this thread is accurate.

gaming Jul 13, 2008 10:45 AM

Some of you guys might want to know this:

Spoiler:

One of the characters from Batman Begins returns in The Dark Knight: Scarecrow

Diversion Jul 13, 2008 05:45 PM

Spoiler:
You see him VERY briefly in every trailer. Disappointing...

No. Hard Pass. Jul 13, 2008 06:05 PM

I also hear
Spoiler:
Batman
is in this movie.

Keep it under your hats.

gaming Jul 14, 2008 12:25 AM

I don't see him in the trailer.

SpaceOddity Jul 14, 2008 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Beard Overflow (Post 626488)
I also hear
Spoiler:
Batman
is in this movie.

Keep it under your hats.

LOL. Yeah, don't want to spoil that for anybody... But seriously, I didn't mean to start a spoiler tag-athon. ;)

Living Legend Jul 16, 2008 05:50 PM

I just saw this movie last night and it was insane!

I won't put any spoilers in here, but it's going to be overly annoying when people come back from seeing this saying HEATH dominated the role as the joker. Yes, he did a great job, but I can pretty much see any big name who likes comic books wrap themselves in a role and do just as good.

Beyond that, this movie is a crazy ride. There are so many tense scenes in this movie that it brings you to the edge of your seat in 'awe' because of what you're seeing in front of you.

It's crazy how you can see something very violent happen, know it's fucked up, and because of a delivered line, you'll laugh about it and thinks it's cool.

Batman had some voice problems, character wise it made sense on why he had his voice so deep, but while watching him, I was just thinking of Solid Snake talking to any given character in Metal Gear Solid 4.

I can't wait to see this movie again tonight.

No. Hard Pass. Jul 16, 2008 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Living Legend (Post 627635)
I just saw this movie last night and it was insane!

I won't put any spoilers in here, but it's going to be overly annoying when people come back from seeing this saying HEATH dominated the role as the joker. Yes, he did a great job, but I can pretty much see any big name who likes comic books wrap themselves in a role and do just as good.

Beyond that, this movie is a crazy ride. There are so many tense scenes in this movie that it brings you to the edge of your seat in 'awe' because of what you're seeing in front of you.

It's crazy how you can see something very violent happen, know it's fucked up, and because of a delivered line, you'll laugh about it and thinks it's cool.

Batman had some voice problems, character wise it made sense on why he had his voice so deep, but while watching him, I was just thinking of Solid Snake talking to any given character in Metal Gear Solid 4.

I can't wait to see this movie again tonight.

Yeah. Any big name actor who likes comic books could have done this just as well.

So, uh, Vin Diesel would have torn up the role of the Joker? Oh yeah, spot on comment there.

No, not anyone could have played this role so well. Heath was fantastic at it, and stop trying to be internet cool by stepping aside and saying anyone could have done it. It just isn't true. There are a handful of people who could have played the role as well, but you know what? There were a handful of people who could have played Henry in Lion in Winter as well as Peter O'Toole. That doesn't mean he didn't completely own the role and put on one of the best performances in film history. It doesn't diminish what he did. All you can put up against it is "maybe someone else could have done a decent job of it." But that doesn't fucking -matter-. The point is he's the guy in the role and he stomped it. Get a grip. That's pretty much the most inane argument I've ever heard about an actor. "Sure he was brilliant, but I mean, someone else might have been brilliant too. So I don't want to hear about it." Please.

Also, did you see Batman Begins? Just curious. Because he uses that voice through there as well. It's not the movie's fault you played a shitty game and now have a problem with relating it to things that don't suck.

I'm all for criticism of this movie, there's plenty you could level against it, but could you try actually finding problems with the movie, instead of just rambling like a retard and expecting people to give a shit about your baseless opinions?

Andrew Evenstar Jul 16, 2008 06:08 PM

Wow a little harsh there. I think he's just saying that people are overrating heath's performance. I'm not sure. That's not my opinion. I haven't seen the film yet.

Shenlon Jul 16, 2008 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Beard Overflow (Post 627646)
expecting people to give a shit about your baseless opinions?

umm...didn't you just kinda give a shit ~_~


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