Called EB, got the manager on the line, PS3 GET confirmed! Just gotta walk in and pick it up on Friday then. Teehee.

Bingo. If the input device doesn't have on, the television almost certainly does, keep that in mind. Heck, all you need to do is look at a TV's specs to see if it says:

"Supports blah-blah-blah resolutions"

And it pretty much confirms the presence of a scaler in the product. This often comes either before or after mention of the television's native resolution (the res the scaler will be up/downscaling to). Scaling often introduces unwanted image problems (banding, macroblocking, etc..).

So, if you have a CRT HDTV, the native resolution is often 1080i, so that's what you should set your PS3's output to in the menu.

If you have a fixed pixel display, such as an LCD or DLP based display (flat panel LCDs, rear-projection LCDs, LCoS, DLP), the common number is 720p. Flat panels are different though, as most have it at around 768p. Of course the top dogs in each of these run at 1080p.

Too much AVS does this to you, ladies and gentlemen.

What a frickin disgrace. All stores here from Best Buy to Target have 30 people outside them. I won't be getting one looks like because I can't compete with these losers who are skipping SCHOOL to get a god damn video system.

It is sickening what society has turned into. It is no wonder people kill themselves over video games. People have become too reliant on this stuff. It runs their god damn lives.

They did a special on the local news and some 15 year old kid was out there with his mother since tuesday, letting him skip an entire week of school for a video game system. Horrible parent. Absolute disgrace.

It just sickens me to see what this world is turning into and makes me insanely angry that people are willing to quit their jobs, and drop out of school for video games. Where the hell are these kid's parents? Hurting their future so they can brag online that they got a launch PS3.

Eh who cares if they decide to waste their time the way they do? I for one refuse to camp out. I don't even care if I get one on launch, just as long as I get one eventually. I'll wait until next shipment for all I care.

Congrats to anyone who's actually lucky enough to have gotten one for certain though.

Not enough buckets of water in the world for you to dump on all these guys, huh?

I care a whole heck of a lot. Because it tells me what the priorities in this country are today. People don't care about education or the state of the things that really matter in this country. All they care about are video games and their little toys. Do I care about the individuals? No. But you can't deny what it means in the bigger picture of today's society.

Seriously, just think about it. Kids are willing to fail college exams and fail an entire class, just to get a PS3. Does that not say bad things about this society? If it were only a few people in line then it wouldn't matter, but there are thousands of people in line all over the country. People quitting jobs, skipping school. Not only that but their parents are letting them.

And people wonder why kids grow up to be such nutjobs. It all goes back to the parents. Would you let your kid skip an entire week of school to get a video game system? Hurting his or her future for a toy? Again, it isn't the waiting in line that annoys me, it is what people are sacrificing to do it. I'd never think anyone would quit their jobs for a PS3 until I read that Burbank story. I never thought someone would flunk an entire class in college until I heard this local news report.

Double Post:
Ha. It would be funny I'd say that. But it is going to pour here tonight through tomorrow anyway, so looks like they'll be getting soaked anyway.

Regarding the HDTV downscaling fiasco, the guys over at PA are apeshit pissed about the whole thing. I'm not too happy about it either if my TV can't handle it. If this can be fixed with an update, and I really hope it can, then Sony needs to make this a priority one fix, real soon.

I have a feeling the newest catchphrase for this year and the next will be "That is to be resolved in future updates."

Downscaling? I must have missed something...

Yeah, something was mentioned about that on the news, but I was too busy talking with my friends about how I'm going to park my ass in line tomorrow to make millions of dollars in profits.

That's not very smart. I thought that upscaling was a more or less standard procedure these days? Oh well. Looks like PS3 owners will have some firmware to download and install.

As long as it's definetely fixable by firmware, then I'm okay with it, but the PA guys have doubts over that, so it has me a bit worried.

The real reason why are attempts are so damn high.

You can make some 300+% profit, heh, it pays some bills.

SOME? Hell dude, I'm planning on putting the money down on an HDTV.

Anyway, I'm off to camp starting now. Not going to be fun.

See you guys Friday.

It starts.

I know there's going to be tons of crazy reports and videos coming within the next couple of days, but things like this aren't worth laughing about.

Playstation 3: I'll gun yo ass down, sucka!

EDIT: By the way, I have to hit the hay soon and then go to work, but if someone could take a look at my HDTV's manual and confirm whether I'll be suffering this downgrade thing going on with the PS3, I'd really appreciate it.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/fyb2gk

But to wait outside for 3 or 4 days you risk getting fired from your job or may have to quit which makes the short-term profit good, but dreadful long-term.

If we see you on friday, somethings gone wrong with your ps3.

or if you get mugged of blasted by some fool as SOLDIER pointed out.

This is why I would hire a bodyguard or two.

I've got some sort of a noobish question here: Would it be possible to hook your PS3 up to a PC LCD monitor (e.g. 1280x1024 native resolution)?

They're considerably cheaper than a full blown HDTV set and a 17" or 19" LCD monitor should support 720p via a HDMI to DVI-D converter, right?

You wouldn't even need a converter, just an HDMI to DVI cable. I don't remember if it supports odd resolutions (like 768p on many flat panel LCD TVs), though if it does, then all you need is that cable, and use the AV out for sound.

Or you could set the machine at 720p, which comes in slightly lower than 1280 x 1024. Let's wait until some guys have it here, so we can find out what it'll output.

That's what I was aiming for, yes.

I've done some research on the HDMI to DVI thing and it seems there might be trouble if the monitor (or the cable?) doesn't support HDCP.

From the official PS3 manual:
http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...deooutput.html

I don't know if LCD monitors with DVI support this or not.

That just has to do with BLU-RAY and HD-DVD movies. You do not have to worry about HDCP with the gaming portion of your PS3.

One of the many reasons why I hate the DRM bullshit on both formats.

Hey just an off the topic question. Since 720p seems like the ideal thing with gaming these days, would this tv work at all with a 720p resolution for my PS3?

http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_KV_27FS...5.html?tag=nav

Unfortunately, it was mentioned a few days ago that Sony extended HDCP to cover even the games passing a signal over HDMI. It was one of the reasons why BlimBlim got his hopes shattered since if this wasn't in place, he could simply record gameplay off the machine.

This sucks for people with older HDTVs that lack any sort of HDCP compliance.

And just so you know, the ones you should be fuming at is the motion picture industry. They're the ones who set the requirements for their movies to be on any new formats. So what we get is DRM'd, copy protection all around.

Here's an interesting question... considering that my widescreen monitor has DVI input, but isn't actually an HDTV, how would I go about determining what HD resolutions it supports? I understand now about Interlaced and Progressive Scan, though they aren't common terminology when it comes to computer monitors.

The monitor's native resolution is 1680x1050... so it doesn't seem like it would support 1080 by 30 bloody pixels. Would there be a way for me to tell then which 720 my monitor supported? (I don't want downgrade :()