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Slash Jan 4, 2008 01:44 AM

Well...hopefully they don't do anything ridiculous like after 1000 vs. matches to unlock some character

WolfDemon Jan 4, 2008 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Slash (Post 561717)
I hope Nintendo is just hiding a whole slew of characters from us because if theres only 24...thats going to be very very boring...

The original Smash Bros had 12 characters. It was by no means boring. The first Mortal Kombat only had 8, and people ate it up. More isn't necessarily better.

trackjacket Jan 4, 2008 03:44 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but weren't there only, essentially, 19-20 characters that weren't considered clones in Melee's line-up? That is, omitting Ganondorf, Dr. Mario, Luigi, Falco, Marth (or, Roy), Pichu, and Young Link? We're at 24 confirmed characters for Brawl, with not a single clone, yet. Considering the boost in roster size we saw from the original to Melee, I think we can logically deduce that, excluding clones, there will be roughly 30-35ish (probably closer to 30) original characters. However, that's also including (likely) returning characters such as Captain Falcon (or, Ganondorf, though I think he'll get an original move set this time around), Jigglypuff, Ness and Luigi. I personally feel Marth (or, Roy) and Mewtwo are a mystery -- in terms of their odds of returning -- and I doubt we'll be seeing Mr. Game & Watch again, sadly.

Slash Jan 4, 2008 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by WolfDemon (Post 561976)
The original Smash Bros had 12 characters. It was by no means boring. The first Mortal Kombat only had 8, and people ate it up. More isn't necessarily better.

Okay and let me ask you this, if they only put 12 characters back in, after playing Melee would you be happy?

NovaX Jan 4, 2008 04:58 AM

It never fails to amaze how Smash Brothers threads bring out the most stupid, thoughtless and idiotic responses and assumptions.

WolfDemon Jan 4, 2008 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Slash (Post 562012)
Okay and let me ask you this, if they only put 12 characters back in, after playing Melee would you be happy?

That's not at all what I was driving at. I was just saying that the number of characters has no bearing on how fun a game is. DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3 has 161 characters in it, but it's more or less the same as the previous two.

Monkey King Jan 4, 2008 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Slash (Post 562012)
Okay and let me ask you this, if they only put 12 characters back in, after playing Melee would you be happy?

Kind of a silly hypothetical, considering we're at 23 or 24 confirmed. That's not really a choice anyone needs to make.

Zeta26 Jan 4, 2008 02:41 PM

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I hope Nintendo is just hiding a whole slew of characters from us because if theres only 24...thats going to be very very boring...
With Dark Nation's first comment "Wow, how selfish can you get? Judging a game as 'boring' because it has less then an arbitrary number of characters? I feel a bit insulted here as a prospective game designer (No I'm by no means one yet, but its my career path)". I also feel insulted as well. Because it doesn't matter if a game has more or less characters. That necessarily doesn't mean that the game is boring. How idiotic can you get?

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It never fails to amaze how Smash Brothers threads bring out the most stupid, thoughtless and idiotic responses and assumptions.
Well, it happens in GameFAQs as well. Best to just ignore them.

Sin Ansem Jan 4, 2008 11:31 PM

YouTube - Wii Dairanto Smash Brothers X TV Spot(Japan)

Japanese commercial.

If anyone sez there's a Japanese or NA delay, this is proof they're bullshitting.

Zeta26 Jan 5, 2008 03:56 AM

Eh, don't listen to them. They just say that as they want more characters. Which btw for the last time, may not make it to the Brawl game. And to be honest. I'm happy with what Brawl has.

Like it has Final Smashes, my fav new comer Ike and vet; Link, now Sothe (as an assist trophy) and many other features. I don't think I can be any happier.

Guru Jan 5, 2008 04:11 AM

Perhaps they're purposefully NOT revealing every single character in the game.

I mean, what fun would it be to not have any surprises?

immp Jan 5, 2008 04:26 AM

Second commercial

Peach's bum = Hearts

Infernal Monkey Jan 5, 2008 04:52 AM

Also the advert that.. advertises the online mode has some sort of tranny in it. :cmb:

YouTube Video

Zeta26 Jan 5, 2008 12:20 PM

Nice video :). Seems that Japan's now trying to pull all the stops to promote 24th's release. And I suppose that the U.S is going to do similar advertisement as well.

Kimchi Jan 5, 2008 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by immp (Post 562577)
Second commercial

Peach's bum = Hearts

Wut bum? :(

Anyways, the trailer looks "alright" to me... first one's way better >_>

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Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey
Also the advert that.. advertises the online mode has some sort of tranny in it.


Haha... you said tranny!

Elixir Jan 5, 2008 08:00 PM

Here's some better quality videos:

Clips: Super Smash Bros. Brawl Japanese Commercials

Zeta26 Jan 5, 2008 08:48 PM

And what's more. We start another round of updates tomorrow at 11 p.m :).

SuperSonic Jan 5, 2008 08:50 PM

They should just stop with the updates and have this on the page: "Everything will be revealed on the 24th of this month! Hope you enjoy the game!"

Dekoa Jan 5, 2008 10:03 PM

Hold on here. I think in the second one there may just be a confirmation of a BRAND NEW ITEM!!! If you look to the left of the Lylat Cruiser Scene in the second commercial. On the second time, it appears to be a Chaos Emerald. AND I'm thinking that this has a Play with Super Sonic. Or it could be a brand new Item totally (It's very apparent 5 seconds in). With the Dragoon in play, I wouldn't be surprised to see the chaos Emeralds being brought into play.

Zeta26 Jan 5, 2008 11:23 PM

For the Chaos Emerald. I think it has to do with Sonic's Final Smash attack. Something like this?

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/chara..._071225b-l.jpg

Kimchi Jan 6, 2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 562837)
Here's some better quality videos:

Clips: Super Smash Bros. Brawl Japanese Commercials

Thank you, so much better quality. The ones on youtube... it was like someone filmed it with camera or something :eagletear:

Nall Jan 6, 2008 07:36 PM

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Hold on here. I think in the second one there may just be a confirmation of a BRAND NEW ITEM!!! If you look to the left of the Lylat Cruiser Scene in the second commercial. On the second time, it appears to be a Chaos Emerald. AND I'm thinking that this has a Play with Super Sonic. Or it could be a brand new Item totally (It's very apparent 5 seconds in). With the Dragoon in play, I wouldn't be surprised to see the chaos Emeralds being brought into play.
The Chaos Emeralds would rock if everyone could use them. SuperSnake with spikey Goku hair flying around shooting RPGs out of his fingers. Tell me that wouldn't be awesome. Bonus points for the Sonic invincibility theme playing while it all happens.

Let's hope we get something cool for the update. We still gotta last two weeks from this Thursdays, which will go down in history as Needlessly Huge Spoiler Day 2008.

Dark Nation Jan 6, 2008 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 562837)
Here's some better quality videos:

Clips: Super Smash Bros. Brawl Japanese Commercials

Well, time to nitpick through the commercials and see what kind of stuff I can find. Disclaimer: some or most of this probably has been mentioned elsewhere:

First Commercial:
- When Princess Peach uses her Peach Bomber Attack, instead of an explosion, there will be Rose Petals that appear.
- Lightbeam Sword glows Blue and is Straight (Not Curved) when Idle (That is, when someone isn't attacking)
- On Pit's Stage, Giga Bowser has the ability to smash the floating platforms.
- The WarioWare Stage shows Japanese... Hiranaga (?) Text when the stage changes.
- Giant Metroid is an Item.
- At the Pokemon Stage where Groudon Appears, the player controlling Squirtle has the name "zenigame".
This is the only time in the commercial that a name different from the default appears. Its significance is unknown.
- Price for the game is 6,800 Yen.

Second Commercial:
- Bananas are an Item.
- As with Melee, the Pokemon Gym Stage shows a video of the character on
a screen in the background.
- Tiny Bowser confirms the Mushroom Item is returning.
- Yoshi's Classic Stage from the N64 Smash Bros is returning.
- Kirby's Link Hat uses Link's Bow power.

Third Commercial:
- Oddly, it shows all three of the Trainer's pokemon on the stage at the same time, following Yoshi. This probably was done specifically for the commercial, unless the ability to have all three of them on the stage at once is possible. While this is shown as true for the Final Smash, what they were doing right now seemed different.
- Ike is carrying a large Present, probably a variation on the Wooden Box Item.
- Diddy is shown lying on his side for several seconds. I'm not sure if this may be a taunt, or specifically made for the commercial, or something else.
- On the Pokemon Stage, an Snowflake Icon appears on the back of the stage (On the video screen) to indicate the 'winter' theme of the stage appearing.

Yeah, not much new I could find. As far as the Chaos emerald goes, I looked all over the second commercial but I couldn't find it.

NovaX Jan 6, 2008 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Nation (Post 563357)
- When Princess Peach uses a Smash Attack, there will be flower petals that appear for a brief moment.

That's not a smash attack, that's her Peach Bomber attack. The petals would be replacing the explosion that once erupted from her behind. I always thought that was a little weird.

Dark Nation Jan 6, 2008 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NovaX (Post 563365)
That's not a smash attack, that's her Peach Bomber attack. The petals would be replacing the explosion that once erupted from her behind. I always thought that was a little weird.

Really? Well I guess I should correct my post then.


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