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Infernal Monkey Nov 10, 2006 04:50 AM

With the Japanese PS3 launch so VERY VERY CLOSE

BOX ART TIME



map car man words telling me to do things Nov 10, 2006 05:18 AM

Wow, those look absolutely terrible. Seriously, usually Japan has the most vibrant and fun game covers but these are just stagnant D:

Hantei Nov 10, 2006 12:45 PM

Saw ads for the system and games in the FutureShop flyer today (naturally, all numbers listed are in Canadian dollars). Apparently they're only getting the 60GB version, and is retailing for about $660 (if I remembered correctly). You can also buy X-Men 3 Blu-Ray for $19.99 with it. The prices for the PS3 games are $59.99, which doesn't seem much (if any) increase from how much newly released PS2 games cost (bit of a relief, though probably subject to change with the likes of MGS4, FF13, etc).

They open at 8am on the 17th, most likely to be a line up that morning!

Spatula Nov 10, 2006 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hantei
The prices for the PS3 games are $59.99, which doesn't seem much (if any) increase from how much newly released PS2 games cost

Those are probably only the "special 3 day price" listings, and will most likely go up by $10 after that. They did the same thing with FFXII, and now it's selling for $59.99 from the 3 day price of $49.99.

Cobalt Katze Nov 10, 2006 01:40 PM

Visited the EB yesterday that I preordered the system from. Got it clarified that you don't need to pay it in full to absolutely get your system, just pay the rest when you pick it up on launch day. Also set in stone (preordered) my two launch titles, Resistance and RR7.

It was kind of amusing... the noob clerk to the experienced one:

"Hey, do we preorder PS3 games?"
"PS3?"
"Ye-"
"Of COURSE we do, let me bring up the SKUs"

(To me)"Alright, that was Resistance and what again?"
"Ridge Racer 7"
(To exp. clerk)"What's the number on Ridge Racer?"
"For what?"
"PS3"

*me shaking my head*

Meanwhile there was some random guy in a suit returning FFXII, complaining that the battle system made him feel like he was watching a movie. And the experienced clerk agreeing, that she hated that. I had half a mind to step in, but thought I aught to just get my receipt and head out.

Soldier Nov 10, 2006 01:52 PM

Christ, 7 days left. Where's Metal Sphere been?

Genji 2's score is expected, given that it's obviously a PS2.5 title. It seems set in stone that Resistence has zero chance of sucking, which is more notable news, but I'll be checking this sunday's ads to see if any of the stores will sell it slightly cheaper or offer a bonus.

One thing I've been meaning to ask; even though the PS3 isn't offering any upscaling for PS1 and PS2 games (for now), wouldn't there be some sort of resolution boost if you're playing it on HDMI versus Component?

Cobalt Katze Nov 10, 2006 02:10 PM

I'm hoping so, Soldier. Not resolution so much as better transfer to an HDTV. Especially since I'm playing with S-Video, I'd certainly anticipate a much better image when I switch to HDMI cables.

And yeah, expected Genji's score also. Same with Tony Hawk P8, though it's unfortunate that the PS3 version was totally skimped on. Guess they had to rush it to make launch, which seems to be a trend with launch games anyways.

I'm predicting Resistance will be in the 9's, and RR7 in the 8's. Or high 7's if someone's feeling spiteful that the game plays nearly the same to other RR's. Zomg not next-gen enough!

Soldier Nov 10, 2006 02:15 PM

Don't worry, they'll make another Tony Hawk about 2 weeks afterwards...

And OPM already gave Resistence a 9.

Another question; does anyone know how long the power cord is for the system? I'd like to decide in advance how high I can put the PS3 on my new shelf.

Mercury Nov 10, 2006 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hantei
Saw ads for the system and games in the FutureShop flyer today (naturally, all numbers listed are in Canadian dollars). Apparently they're only getting the 60GB version, and is retailing for about $660 (if I remembered correctly). You can also buy X-Men 3 Blu-Ray for $19.99 with it. The prices for the PS3 games are $59.99, which doesn't seem much (if any) increase from how much newly released PS2 games cost (bit of a relief, though probably subject to change with the likes of MGS4, FF13, etc).

They open at 8am on the 17th, most likely to be a line up that morning!

Hehe that's great news for the Canadian market... I think because the dollar is strong, we won't be affected much by the high price of PS3...

I saw the BestBuy flyer the other day, advertising the 20GB version for $550 CAD... I immediately remembered that I paid $500 CAD for my PS2 one full year after it had been released... If you factor in the inflation, it seems like the PS3 will actually appear to be cheaper than the PS2 was for the Canadian market...

Metal Sphere Nov 11, 2006 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER
Christ, 7 days left. Where's Metal Sphere been?

Hey, SOLDIER. Tales of the Abyss and FFXII have kept me pretty busy as of late, definitely the most fun I've had with RPGs in a while.

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Genji 2's score is expected, given that it's obviously a PS2.5 title. It seems set in stone that Resistence has zero chance of sucking, which is more notable news, but I'll be checking this sunday's ads to see if any of the stores will sell it slightly cheaper or offer a bonus.
Well, Genji's score isn't that surprising. Resistance is getting real nice scores so far. Hopefully it does as well at retail.

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One thing I've been meaning to ask; even though the PS3 isn't offering any upscaling for PS1 and PS2 games (for now), wouldn't there be some sort of resolution boost if you're playing it on HDMI versus Component?
Well, the improvements would be marginal over component (especially since it's not HD material, and it'll be upscaled by the television rather than the machine itself). It's best just to have it connected via HDMI to cut down on wires as well as keeping the BR playback available to you.

I heard it doesn't upscale DVDs either. Would it have been that hard to throw in a Faroudja chip in there? Heck, Oppo's managed to deliver a top-dog of a player for far less than what Sony's asking for. BTW, here's confirmation of the presence of the EE+GS (Dragon) chip in the PS3, confirming the hardware based BC for PS2 games. Though it's been stated that older models would receive a firmware update enabling software emulation after they completely remove the chips from the machine.

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_37.jpg

Here's another interesting shot from the machine's guts. It looks like it accepts 100V~240V, though there's been no official word on it (that I know of).

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article...1111power2.jpg

The rest of these can be found here

Soldier Nov 11, 2006 03:01 AM

Actually, one Sony PR guy (forgot the name) said DVD movies ARE upscaled. I guess you'll just have to wait and try it out yourself.

Metal Sphere Nov 11, 2006 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER
Actually, one Sony PR guy (forgot the name) said DVD movies ARE upscaled. I guess you'll just have to wait and try it out yourself.

Well, they'd have to be upscaled since we've already seen menus of resolution settings menus. Not too long a wait now, seeing as how some GAF members have started testing the machine for BC problems.

Isthmus Nov 11, 2006 06:24 AM

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Remove the [remove], by the way.

Elixir Nov 11, 2006 07:35 AM

http://www.ps3blogi.fi/images/ps3_78_1163117151.jpg

Hey look, more games with Resident Evil control schemes.

Anyway, here's a bunch of pictures I found here which show the PS3 pretty thoroughly.

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_01.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_04.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_05.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_06.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_18.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_14.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_19.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_20.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_21.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_22.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_23.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_24.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_25.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_26.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_27.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_28.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_29.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_31.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_32.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_33.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_34.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_35.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_36.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_37.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_38.jpg

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_39.jpg

SouthJag Nov 11, 2006 09:19 AM

Have their been any reports of someone swapping the hard drives for a bigger capacity, third-party unit yet? IGN said they were working on it, but have yet to actually do it.

It seems easy enough to open the system from those pics, so I assume Sony won't put that "Void if Removed" sticker on it like they had on the PS2.

Conan-the-3rd Nov 11, 2006 02:08 PM

Having seen all the "look at us press guys, we got ourselves a ps3!" videos, I'm not impressed with the Bios menu. It's an over glorified PSP bios menu. I was expecting something more...well, next gen.

JJAB91 Nov 11, 2006 03:06 PM

OMG!!!! did you here the news the PS3 is coming out Nov.17 but there
deleying all the games how stupid!

FatsDomino Nov 11, 2006 03:32 PM

Yeah, I don't want you in this thread anymore.

Conan-the-3rd Nov 11, 2006 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JJAB91
OMG!!!! did you here the news the PS3 is coming out Nov.17 but there deleying all the games how stupid!

Try being a Britt. No Solid release date after the "World Wide launch" lie (After fact, it was penned for "March" and now it's "Whenever"), us paying at least 30% above the infamous $599 mark...the alleged rumours that we're not getting the low end model (though nothing solid has come of that ether)...relay, I honestly don't see the grounds for your complaint.

Sonic is getting delayed though, which kinda sucks but I'm in two ways about that.

Soldier Nov 11, 2006 04:12 PM

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Have their been any reports of someone swapping the hard drives for a bigger capacity, third-party unit yet? IGN said they were working on it, but have yet to actually do it.

It seems easy enough to open the system from those pics, so I assume Sony won't put that "Void if Removed" sticker on it like they had on the PS2.
I thought exchanging hard drives was supposed to be a snap (a small slot to open the port)? If it involves opening the whole system up, then I'm not sure I want to try it. It's probably too late to change my preorder to the $600 model, though I'm still debating if I should even bother, since higher capacity hard drives can be found for a cheaper price, and I already have a wireless ethernet bridge.

EDIT: While trying out the Wii at Gamestop, I got confirmation that it's too late to switch systems, but I'm fine with the $500 model. One thing I did learn, though, is that the only special they're offering is that you get $10 off X-Men: The Last Stand for Blu Ray if you buy it along with the system. A pretty good deal, but I couldn't bring myself to spend money on the most disappointing movie of this year. If it was Black Hawk Down or something better, I'd probably take them up on the offer.

Also interesting is that they actually have finished, packaged PS3 games for sale now. The guy showed me the sealed cases for Tony Hawk and Ultimate Alliance. Pretty cool, though I don't quite like the clear Blu Ray border on the top. I was hoping they'd go for the black color scheme to match the system.

Dopefish Nov 11, 2006 06:26 PM

I visited my local Best Buy (after visiting GameStop and EB Games, as an interesting side note) and there it was: the PS3 kiosk. Neither of the major gaming places had it. I discovered a kid playing some racing game (Motor-something or other). After watching him botch the controls (seriously, kids need more education) he handed the control over to me and I promptly won a race and handed off to the next putz in line. A couple of times I heard kids say, "Wow! Look at the graphics!" and I groaned to myself a little.

The graphics are good, yeah, OK, natural progression of computers and graphics told us we knew this would happen. Frankly, I was disappointed. Oh boy! Look at all the parts when my car explodes! They intentionally slow this part down to show you all the parts! Then your car respawns and the framerate is still kinda choppy while you're racing, even if you've got no one in front of you. I expect/require 60 FPS at this point in the gaming cycle and this game doesn't have it. Otherwise it was a fairly generic racing game; no weapons, no powerups, just you, some ATVs, boosting and some decent graphics.

Soldier Nov 11, 2006 06:29 PM

I felt about the same when I tried Excitetrucks today. In this case though, I guess the prettier generic racer wins out of the two. I'll probably hit my nearest Best Buy tommorow to see if they have the PS3 set up. But I'll be especially paying attention to Sunday's ads, to see if any specials or lower prices occur for the launch games.

SouthJag Nov 11, 2006 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan-the-3rd
Having seen all the "look at us press guys, we got ourselves a ps3!" videos, I'm not impressed with the Bios menu. It's an over glorified PSP bios menu. I was expecting something more...well, next gen.

This is gonna come off as asshole-ish, but what'd you expect? There have been screenshots of the bios for ages now -- it's Sony's standard stuff. It's not so much a glorified PSP bios, but the standard they use and the easiest one to work with.

Quite frankly, I don't think too many people are gonna be disappointed with the XMB (?) interface, so it's easy, user-friendly, and functional. Plus, it doesn't have "the blades."

map car man words telling me to do things Nov 11, 2006 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Elixir
http://www.ps3blogi.fi/images/ps3_78_1163117151.jpg

Hey look, more games with Resident Evil control schemes.

I just thought I'd just go and ask what the earth are you talking about? The tank in Resistance controls exactly like the scorpion tank in Halo, you point a direction and the tank drives there, allowing you to shoot while moving, completely unlike RE's stop and aim system (which I might add worked well enough with the pacing).

Unless of course you were actually trying a "RE has tank controls geddit" joke, in which case ::tumbleweed::


As for the PS3 HDD, I was told at work that there were already blog entries of people switching their hard drives to a 120GB one, but I have yet to see one. I seriously doubt opening the PS3 will be allowed (still going to void your warranty), but for HDD exchange you won't need it anyway since you remove it from the side.

Soldier Nov 11, 2006 06:56 PM

Good, no need to open up the whole damn system then. All I have to do is wait a bit for everyone to try the different kind of drives, and then purchase whichever one people recommend the most (and at a good price).


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