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Mithos Jul 17, 2006 04:50 PM

Forgive me for not reading most of the thread but...

My dad seems to be rather racist. Well, not racist, but he keeps on telling me how I should go off and find a Chinese girlfriend (I am Chinese), because they might be somehow superior.

I know that in general, the world seems to think that inter-racial relationships are bad and racism is fine (even though no single person will admit it to another). If people look different, then they are different, in that sense - so even though it's not a well-reasoned stance, I guess it's explained (justified, perhaps not).

I know it's not exactly adding much to the discussion, but I really do wish people would categorise humans on other grounds, if at all.

I guess things aren't looking good for a Chinese guy stranded in the UK. Of course, I'd be totally out of place if I went back to Asia. So I guess I'm not really meant to be anywhere at all...

Bloodrayne Jul 20, 2006 08:17 PM

Ive the opinion thats interracial couples are not a good thing. I prefer heterogenity over homogenity. When every people and races mix, what will be the product? A plain mix without ancient history, without a deep-going culture. And this mordern "urbanic-zeigeist-multiculturalist"-crap is no real culture for me, sorry. Mix ten different colors into a bottle, and the product will be....yes...guess what....

Furthermore, I dont find men of other races aesthetical. Im not attracted to them - and that is not a decision I made, its natural.

But everyone as he or she likes...its just MY opinion, no matter what other say. So dont even mind to piss me of because of my opinion.

And have a look to the baby of Heidi Klum and Seal...isnt he...:eyebrow:

Magi Jul 20, 2006 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloodrayne
Ive the opinion thats interracial couples are not a good thing. I prefer heterogenity over homogenity. When every people and races mix, what will be the product? A plain mix without ancient history, without a deep-going culture. And this mordern "urbanic-zeigeist-multiculturalist"-crap is no real culture for me, sorry. Mix ten different colors into a bottle, and the product will be....yes...guess what...

Do you have any concept of how culture is relinquish from one generation to another and why? Do you have any idea how "culture" functions? O.o;; Just because a group of people is consist of intermix "races" that doesn't mean they wouldn't have meaningful "culture" or "history". Secondly, the premise of multiculturalism is essentially keeping different cultures Separate, instead of integration or assimilation in other type of social models.

FallDragon Jul 20, 2006 09:41 PM

I thought I'd never date outside of my race, and for no particular reason either. Probably because I live in whitebread America. But then I dated an Indian (read: from India), and found that actually dating someone of a different race helped me overcome any inhibitions I previously held about how dating might be "different" depending on race. I think I was mostly worried about how my conservate relatives would be. I remember my parents used to study with a church that said God doesn't like it when you date someone from a different race, but it's not exactly a sin so it's tolerated if you do. Surprisingly enough, all my relatives were fine with it. There wasn't any mention of her race at all, really.

Though, I also think those inhibitions I had were also partly due to a sneaky kind of racism that I was trying to ignore, and I'm glad to be rid of it.

Sarag Jul 21, 2006 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloodrayne
Ive the opinion thats interracial couples are not a good thing. I prefer heterogenity over homogenity.

het·er·o·ge·ne·ous
adj.
1. also het·er·og·e·nous: Consisting of dissimilar elements or parts; not homogeneous. See Synonyms at miscellaneous.
2. Completely different; incongruous.

ho·mo·ge·ne·ous
adj.
1. Of the same or similar nature or kind: “a tight-knit, homogeneous society” (James Fallows).
2. Uniform in structure or composition throughout.
3. Mathematics. Consisting of terms of the same degree or elements of the same dimension.

what now

Bloodrayne Jul 22, 2006 08:49 PM

Not "what now!", all is correct.

Guess what? I want to see Blacks, Whites, Mestizos, Asians...and so on...in 10.000 years, too. Thats all. The world would be boring with a well-mixed mono-race.

Thats heterogenity.

Sarag Jul 22, 2006 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloodrayne
Not "what now!", all is correct.

Guess what? I want to see Blacks, Whites, Mestizos, Asians...and so on...in 10.000 years, too. Thats all. The world would be boring with a well-mixed mono-race.

Thats heterogenity.

No it's not.

You're really stupid, aren't you?

Visavi Jul 23, 2006 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bloodrayne
Ive the opinion thats interracial couples are not a good thing. I prefer heterogenity over homogenity. When every people and races mix, what will be the product? A plain mix without ancient history, without a deep-going culture. And this mordern "urbanic-zeigeist-multiculturalist"-crap is no real culture for me, sorry. Mix ten different colors into a bottle, and the product will be....yes...guess what....

Actually, wouldn't everyone's culture and heritage become more enriched because they have multiple cultural influences to draw from? From the way that the world looks now, I find it hard to believe that the entire planet is going to fall into a One World Order and do everything the same, there's just too many cultural differences, religious beliefs, and personal attitudes unless something very weird happens.

I do see why you want to still see a variety of races centuries from now since it does give them a form of individuality and variety makes everything less boring. However, there are some positives to mixing different races together such as avoidance of interbreeding, creating a stronger immune system, and the inheritance of traits that could help strengthen the gene pool.

Also, I love Seal's music, but Seal isn't exactly the most attractive guy out there (no offense), and it may surprise some people to realize how many people within Hollywood are of a mixed race, yet they are considered to be some of the most beautiful men and women.

PUG1911 Jul 23, 2006 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloodrayne
Ive the opinion thats interracial couples are not a good thing. I prefer heterogenity over homogenity. When every people and races mix, what will be the product? A plain mix without ancient history, without a deep-going culture. And this mordern "urbanic-zeigeist-multiculturalist"-crap is no real culture for me, sorry. Mix ten different colors into a bottle, and the product will be....yes...guess what....

I hear you. I don't know what's got the others so confused. You and I both know that if people look the same, then they'll be the same and enjoy the same culture as one another. I mean, if I were to find me in north america, someone that looks like me in the middle east, someone who looks like me in east asia, someone that looks like me in Africa, and someone that looks like me in Australia, we'd all be pretty close to the same background.

I mean, culture isn't based on regions and bloodlines right? :eyebrow:

Technophile Aug 8, 2006 03:41 AM

I really don't understand why having an interracial-relationship is still an issue in modern society. The topic's been explored, attacked, and condoned to death. A person who still looks negatively upon it is really a nuisance as far as I'm concerned.

Oh and Bloodrayne, if your only gripe with interracial-relationships is the "IMPENDING DOOM OF ONLY ONE GLOBAL HOMOGENIZED RACE" thing, then I really don't think you need to worry. There are plenty of "purists" (such as what seems like yourself) who'll make sure that this "tragic loss of diversity and different cultures" won't happen. Even though preserving diversity is probebly the least of their concerns.

UltimaIchijouji Aug 8, 2006 03:50 AM

Considering I do prefer Asian women over any other race (Hi guys, this is me asking to be flamed.), the whole interracial thing is kind of an matter of concern. Especially since a lot of Asian girls, in New York at least, really only like white guys or asian guys or don't date at all, which is a problem for me I guess. Of course, if I came across a black girl or spanish girl that I liked a lot, I would go for it; I had a crush on a black girl a few years ago. I still know her now and she's a great person. Its just that what these races make themselves into just isn't desirable personality-wise for me.

White girls have to be really special for me to consider dating them. To me, a lot of them look like men and that's a problem. There are nice white chicks, just a lot of them are snotty bitches here.

Txitxan Aug 8, 2006 05:40 AM

The same as sassafrass, everyone should live its own life i dont try to interfere in others. Now this world is hell.

Winter Storm Aug 8, 2006 09:57 AM

Hmm for everytime I see a black+white couple, I get a little more hopeful that there's a chance for me. It is just 2 different races but still opposite genders, what is there to stop anything from clicking?

THIEF Aug 8, 2006 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultima
Considering I do prefer Asian women over any other race (Hi guys, this is me asking to be flamed.), the whole interracial thing is kind of an matter of concern. Especially since a lot of Asian girls, in New York at least, really only like white guys or asian guys or don't date at all, which is a problem for me I guess. Of course, if I came across a black girl or spanish girl that I liked a lot, I would go for it; I had a crush on a black girl a few years ago. I still know her now and she's a great person. Its just that what these races make themselves into just isn't desirable personality-wise for me.

White girls have to be really special for me to consider dating them. To me, a lot of them look like men and that's a problem. There are nice white chicks, just a lot of them are snotty bitches here.

I've always wanted to date a black women. Blackanese children are hot.

I'm asian although I am very open minded towards dating women of different races. Interacial dating allows for a healthy exchange of culture and helps promote acceptance. Having dated interacially, there are a lot of obstacles to overcome, especially if the other's parents are immigrants or ethnophiles, however love is love. As for other people, I could care less what they thought. Its my choice and they should respect it. Of course there will be people who don't like the sight of an asian man with a girl or a different race (i've gotten that before), but interacial couples is a sight they will have to get used to because the world is becoming more and more of a cultural and racial melting pot.

soapy Aug 8, 2006 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydelloon
I've always wanted to date a black women. Blackanese children are hot.

My cousin's the cutest little kid who looks asian but has gorgeous curly hair and nice tan skin. Most people actually mistake him for being fully asian, if his dad takes him around they'll ask if he was adopted :p

Besides finding a person that is just as open minded as you are, you have to see if their parents feel the same way too. I know a lot of couples that are not from the same background, but even though both sides accept it, there is still a bit of tension from the families.

Visavi Aug 8, 2006 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by soapy
My cousin's the cutest little kid who looks asian but has gorgeous curly hair and nice tan skin. Most people actually mistake him for being fully asian, if his dad takes him around they'll ask if he was adopted :p

Besides finding a person that is just as open minded as you are, you have to see if their parents feel the same way too. I know a lot of couples that are not from the same background, but even though both sides accept it, there is still a bit of tension from the families.

My parents hate interracial dating. Even though they're a result of European and Cherokee descent, they look down on anyone that dates outside their race. They won't protest it, but they're not happy about it. So I know if I were to date someone that wasn't white (or a light skinned American Indian mix) then I wouldn't hear the end of it. Even though I find Asian/American Indian/Hispanic men to be more attractive b/c of the eyes. It won't restrict me from dating them, but the guy would have to be comfortable not meeting my parents.

THIEF Aug 8, 2006 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Visavi
My parents hate interracial dating. Even though they're a result of European and Cherokee descent, they look down on anyone that dates outside their race. They won't protest it, but they're not happy about it. So I know if I were to date someone that wasn't white (or a light skinned American Indian mix) then I wouldn't hear the end of it. Even though I find Asian/American Indian/Hispanic men to be more attractive b/c of the eyes. It won't restrict me from dating them, but the guy would have to be comfortable not meeting my parents.

Oh well. I guess thats part of the "obstacles" I was talking about.

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Even though I find Asian/American Indian/Hispanic men to be more attractive b/c of the eyes.
I can dig that. :edgarrock:

Lee-chan Aug 9, 2006 11:38 AM

Personally, I have no problem with interracial couples. If both parties are okay with it, what else should matter? I think that most couples like that are perfectly aware of the challenges they'll face (i.e. having a biracial kid, their families's opinions, etc.)

And to my experience, biracials are some of the most culturally aware people because it's an issue thrown in their face all the freaking time.

Overall, I think the problem is because people aren't nearly as open-minded as they claim to be. A lot of people are "okay" with the notion of interracial dating as long as it's someone else, or someone not related to them (because they're racists in denial).

And then there's confusion about remembering your background. Stuff like "remember your fucking CHINESE ROOTS" or "wtf you sellout what about BLACK POWER". Cultural awareness is NOT living and breathing "this is what my ancestors are and what they went through so I'll have to be bound to these ideals FOR THE REST OF MY FREAKING LIFE." But to a lot of people anything less is being ignorant of where you came from.

Erisu Kimu Aug 19, 2006 12:18 PM

I really don't care about interracial relationships. If two people want to go out, then so be it. We're not trapped in history here. It's not like we're conditioned to go out with people of the same race. If people can't get over the skin colour of someone, they need to fast forward to the future. It would be like race over love. Contrasting religions? That's a different story, but it's still none of my or anybody else's business.

MâVerick|t.o Sep 4, 2006 03:07 PM

I guess it all depends on where you are and how the people were raised. If you come to Toronto you'll find nothing but interracial couples. So many beautiful females from each race... why limit yourself.

Immortal777 Sep 5, 2006 07:37 AM

I think we all tend to forget that the cradle of humankind is the same for all of us, in fact, our species was born in ethiopia... so I believe racism has no reason to be as we basically all belong to the same place, we all have a common history, a common past no matter our physical differences...

Senorita Preved Sep 9, 2006 02:05 AM

I really cant believe anyone would still care about interracial couples ;(

Im pretty much a mutt genetically, and I have it on very good authority (hobo) that Ive got great legs so case closed.

This thread gave me some google ads to Biracial tees! Thanks internet!


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