I dunno, the way his jaw moved up and down kind of made it look like it was grafted on. I know people hated him, but I really hope they don't decide to royally fuck up his life just so he can be angsty/cool (kill Rose, their baby, and blast him to a hundred pieces).

Gametrailers has the best version right now. It's direct feed, very decent resolution, and downloadable! under 30mb for both Quicktime and WMP.

http://gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?fs=1&id=1743

Just click the links and find your way to it. It's like downloading God!

Am I the only one who didn't have a orgasm over the trailer?

Yes, kill yourself NOW.

I like the fact that with MGS4, we have finally attained the graphical capabilities of 'Final Fantasy - Spirits Within' using polygons.

Altogh we'll have to wait a while for a game to replicate those graphics on the PS3 and 360.

HOLY SHIT! That trailer was awesome! So Raiden is pretty much the new ninja for this series, but his eyes are wierd or maybe it's the dark under his eyes (just a little awkward). Naomi and Meryl (who has a much more mature look) are both lookin' hot; Cambell looks well old, no surprise; and Otacon kinda looks a bit like Sokolov with the gloves. And at the end, Snake looking to kill himself, but I wonder what that wierd scar/injury was, on his face...

I also wonder who's grave he was visiting...

Man, I hope this is a launch title, I will so pre-order a PS3 now if it is.

By the way, it looks like Snake's right eye was damaged in some way. Perhaps, reflecting on his case, he noticed that Big Boss' road and his were pretty much the same. So he wanted to end the legacy.

I like how everyone is freakin' old, Campbell, Snake, Ocelot, Otacon; it's everyone's end of the road.

Hope the full trailer is released quickly tomorrow!

Apparently that was only the "Pre-E3 Teaser Trailer" and not the full trailer. We still have a more to look forward to!

Yes, Otacon looking like Sokolov, very nice. Raiden's wierd eyes/face could be the result of drugs/nanomachines in his system in order for him to function like Ninja did. "The medicine!" and all that. The only thing I didn't really like were those sun glasses on Ocelot/Liquid, not really his style.

This game is all about death and the end of things. I love it!

Too bad. Ocelot had my favorite new design so far, with Otacon a close second.

Speaking of Otacon, he's looking kind of evil. Man, this trailer was depressing. :(

What the hell is an "onus"?

Yeah, I love Ocelot's design. He looks like a Mafia-type character. Pretty cool.

Also, I'm pretty sure that characters we know and love will be on the other side of the fence after making different choices. I'm thinking about Raiden, being all 'hooked-up' like he his, it may also be about the fact that, like Meryl, a new generation of soldier have risen. This is now their war.

Man, I love that feeling of 'End of the Road' this trailer bought over.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=onus

Oh, gamespot has an HD version of the trailer for download, it looks amazing. 160 MB. It's only for subscribers though.

Since I'm not a subscriber I would be much in debt to you if you could rapidshare it for the rest of us please.

http://gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=1743

Found a supposed HD trailer on there. Should be good enough I think

Yes, it's very nice, thank you! It seems a litle dark though, the contrast is too high or something. And it flickers. And is it really direct feed? It seems like it, but the perspective is a little skewed on things that should be completely vertical, like the MGS4 logo. Is the Gamespot one the same thing, or is it different?

When is The Real trailer coming?I mean when is Konami Conf.?

http://www.gamingforce.com/forums/at...g?d=1147141569

Haha, looks like we're playing as Raiden again!

I believe it's tomorrow, but I could be wrong. I'm not sure if it's just an extended version of this trailer or if it's a whole new trailer. Don't forget that we also have gameplay footage to look forward to. I have work everyday this week except tomorrow, so I probably won't be able to provide links to leaked trailer. Fortunately the internet seems to be on top of things for me.

Did anyone expect Raiden taking Ninja's mantle, more or less? I can't believe all the foreshadowing going over my head: getting the HF blade and I believe playing as him in a Ninja suit in Substance.

I'm pretty hyped.

Yeah, Ninja Raiden is awesome. It's even more ironic with all that jazz in MGS2 about VR and the digital battlefield an nanomachines. Snake was against it, but Raiden was trained with it and is used to it. Now Snake is old and outdated, and Raiden is the new ganeration embracing cyborg technology and the replacment of man with machine. Definitely some cyberpunk themes going on here. I like how Ninjatech has evolved. At first it was Grey Fox as cutting edge prototype, now in MGS4 the technology seems almost standard issue (albiet, still reserved for high end special forces).

Saw it coming a mile away. All that talk about making Raiden "cool" could only lead to one logical conclusion: Ninja Raiden.

Saw the HD trailer, and got to read Snake's last words during the trailer. As I thought, he wants to commit suicide so they won't clone his genes and create a new Snake (couldn't they use his remains though? Oh well).

...Except his genes wouldn't die with him, Liquid's arm is still alive. This is the opening to MGS4. Snake wants to kill himself and end Big Boss' terrible legacy, but before he kills himself he realizes that Liquid is still around. He must kill Liquid before killing himself. He must end Big Boss' legacy once and for all.

MGS.org is reprting the real trailer is fuckin 15 minutes long.

On sidenote,are they Arabs in trucks,slammed by gekko's.

I think Raiden is taking Arab side and it seems like Israel setting.

Palestines vs. Israel?

fighting was the only thing Snake was good at and now he realizes Wars/fighting/battles are noting but business,so he goes to grave of BB salutes, comes back sits in isolation and BAM!

Okay, I've just som trailer on Gametrailers, and damn it was hot. I must say that the Metal Gears near the beginning was a bit disappointing. They looked... not convincing.

Liquid Ocelot? Best name ever. Can't wait to see more of him. The way most of the characters hadn't aged much. (Otacon and Snake excepted)... well, I just liked them.

I'm sorry, this post's gonna be semi coherent, but that's my thoughts on MGS4.
Ninja Raiden came completely by suprise. I doubted Koj' when he said that Raiden would be cool, and great scott, he did it. He looked like Vamp in a ninjasuit... Wow.

Anyways, later guys, I have to touch myself, and when I've calmed down, I believe I can make post somewhat more coherent....;_;