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Shenlon Aug 3, 2008 10:32 PM

Yeah I had no problems with not having achievements in ps3 games but once they announced the trophy's I was pretty damn interested but sony promises and doesn't deliver. Well it is up to the developers I guess but still sony screwed up big with firmware 2.41
Only game that I know that supports trophies is Stardust, I would have thought that newer games would have implemented it by now but it's pretty much a failure so far, as well as the in game XMB.
Still I'll be getting soul calibur for ps3 tomorrow so if anyone is interested in online play then up for a few quick matches.

No. Hard Pass. Aug 3, 2008 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Scarletdeath (Post 633323)
The trophy system is bullshit. So far, main PS3 titles like MGS4 and SC4 doesn't have any trophies. Heck, 90% of the current titles doesn't have trophies. I don't even know of any game that has trophies. They tried copying Xbox's achievement system, but pretty much failed so far.

I don't know why they bothered trying, to be honest. Achievements are fucking stupid. You hear the argument of "it gives you something to do in the game once you've beaten it" but I just don't buy that. You know what should make a game worth playing? THE FUCKING GAME.

Achievements are just another bullshit concept introduced to the industry that serves no purpose beyond artificially inflating game play so that designers don't have to sink as much effort into adding actual substance to the games they make.

Sony should never have even wasted their time.

Scarletdeath Aug 3, 2008 11:27 PM

I like in-game achievements. In-game goals that holds rewards, I understand, but system based achievements adds as much replay value as playing the entire game looking through a mirror.

The other upcoming waste of time is the PSN Home. If people want a Second Life duplicate, they'd go play Second Life. Sony should work on something meaningful, like say, God of War 3, or at the least fine-tune their current system instead of all this nonsense.

Lacerta Aug 3, 2008 11:35 PM

Your skill as a whore is determined solely by your gamerscore, obviously.

The achievements in Soul Cailbur IV are just the Honors themselves, so it doesn't even give you anything to do, since you get 2/3s of them anyway just so you can have all the CaS stuff without tormenting yourself with ToLS.

Kostaki Aug 4, 2008 12:02 AM

I don't really mind the achievement system at all, because it gives you something to work toward while you're playing the actual game. There are some retarded mindless grinding achievements (Blue Dragon Level 99 rank shit) but for the most part the achievements in this game in particular are built to be opened over time. A lot of the additional challenge that comes from it is opening them up as fast as you can and figuring out ways to do it. Scarlet posted the 12000g in 13 seconds bug whereas I had been slowly doing it a ridiculous way.

Star Ocean 3 was the very first culprit to do this, and even then I got all 300/300 Battle Trophies on that as well. I'm not looking forward to Star Ocean 4's BTs though...

Slash Aug 4, 2008 12:07 AM

Personally, I think achievements are okay, but my huge problem with it is when people try to be all high and mighty saying "look at me and what I can do" to make themselves look all big and bad.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Aug 4, 2008 12:25 AM

When was the last time you saw anyone do that?

Seriously. I've never met anyone who bragged that they had a high gamerscore, or that they had any specific achievement. And I've encountered some pretty big shitheads on Live.

Lacerta Aug 4, 2008 12:32 AM

Maybe on GameFAQs they would do that kind of crap, but who pays any real mind to that place?

I wouldn't see any real reason to mention you got "x" achievement unless it was vague in how to obtain it and you wanted to tell others how to do the same.

Treasure Trove from Lost Odyssey can burn in hell.

SouthJag Aug 4, 2008 12:33 AM

lols Made a thread -- My Achievements. Let me show you them.

Manny Biggz Aug 4, 2008 03:28 AM

My friend let me borrow the 360 version of the game. If anyone wants to go a few matches, hit me up at Manello Biggz.

Scarletdeath Aug 4, 2008 11:04 AM

Back on this game though, there's pretty much nothing to do after all honors. Now I'm just wasting hell of a time creating cameo characters and such. This as much a dress up game as it is a fighting game.

Chaotic Aug 4, 2008 12:07 PM

Hmmm... Finally starting indulging in this game and got to the 11F in the Tower.

So how in the world did you people kill everyone on that floor with a Critical Finish?

Scarletdeath Aug 4, 2008 01:56 PM

Yun Seong's -->BB

Throw in a Soul Gauge Damage skill for faster results. I farmed my 100 CF honor on floor 11.

DarkMageOzzie Aug 4, 2008 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaotic (Post 633466)
Hmmm... Finally starting indulging in this game and got to the 11F in the Tower.

So how in the world did you people kill everyone on that floor with a Critical Finish?

I did it with a customized Raphael. Have Soul Damage A and 2 other soul gauge related skills on him. Not to mention the enemies in that stage like to block alot making it more feasible.

I spammed his back A and back B attacks alot to get them flashing.

LS Aug 4, 2008 05:00 PM

I know this is a dumb question adn all, But actually how do you get Honor ?

Kostaki Aug 4, 2008 05:02 PM

Honors are the achievements in the 360 version, and are standalone Honors in the PS3 version. It's the things like 100 Critical Finishers, beating Story on Hard, collecting all the equipment, things like that.

Go to Museum --> Battle Records and you'll see what they are.

Megalith Aug 4, 2008 05:48 PM

You get honors by not sucking at the game---dead serious. Half of them should come naturally.

On another note, I'll have to admit that Towers mode is stupid as hell. I've only bothered to play 11 stages, but what is the point of all this wannabe-RPG shit. What happened to challenges that consisted of clever and skilled AI. Now, you put on some gold underwear and an afro so you can hit 5 times as hard. Oh aight.

Can I get Edgemaster Mode from Soul Edge. The 360 version instantly red rings because the music would be too much.

Shenlon Aug 4, 2008 08:41 PM

So I got my ps3 version of the game and I have to say that i have totally gone nerd on the force attacks from darth vader and I don't even like star wars.
And megalith, I thought you were just being critical about some of the characters but when I actually saw the "Anime" characters, I knew what you were talking about ~_~

I also decided not to install right away just to see the difference (well more like I didn't have 1gb of free space on my ps3, so much for 80gb)

way I saw the loading times in story mode Without the install,
Vs 1 = 5 seconds
vs 2 = 10 sec
vs 3 or 4 = 25-30 sec

With the install
Vs 1 = Immidiate (sometimes 2 sec)
Vs 2 = 3 sec
vs 3 or 4 = 7 to 10 sec

Rough estimate but yeah a slight difference to get your game on.


Haven't tried out create a character yet since I sorta missed the middle Icon but the few ps3 users here who want to play online hit me up. PSN AniZeke

espressivo Aug 4, 2008 09:51 PM

i just got the ps3 version today and I forgot that you could install it, so when I started story mode against 3 characters, I had to wait a really long time. Installing cuts down the load time significantly.

I thought the story mode was super short, I wished it was longer and had a few more cutscenes. Vader's A+G throw is cheap ass, just go to the edge and use it on the opponent and you get an easy ring out. I had to use that method against the apprentice on arcade mode since I could barely get a hit on him.

Summonmaster Aug 4, 2008 10:32 PM

Vader's fisherman's throw certainly is hilarious to see, albeit a bit lame to use against someone with Nullify Ring Out A to deprive you of the fun.

What exactly are Seung Mina's quickest options? I'm adamantly using her online, only to have lots of trouble when pressured up close, only to have 2K or 6K and maybe a high smack with the bottom end of the staff, as the only quick pokes available, since it doesn't seem like Mina's A attacks are fast at all. Obviously she's meant to stay at mid/long range, but of course although optimal, that won't always be the case.

Scarletdeath Aug 4, 2008 11:28 PM

Wow. Infinite Ivy Combo found. You cannot regain control in the air when chained. Supposedly the "cannot regain air control" part has been confirmed by multiple SC pros.

Note: Apparently, the youtube tag doesn't work with a link from uk.youtube.

Click here for vid.

Lacerta Aug 4, 2008 11:41 PM

EDIT: After too much testing and probably destroying whatever new-controller-feel my control had, it is definitely an infinite you cannot escape from. I retract my statement before about it being otherwise.

The attack itself inflicts a special juggle that exists in SCIV (I never touched III but maybe it is in there too) that, when hit in the air again, will keep putting you in this same juggle over and over again. This particular spinning launch juggle will not allow you to maintain air superiority. Basically you can mash the stick / d-pad all you want but your polygons aren't going anywhere.

The only way your opponent will be able to get out of it is if you hit at the wrong distance or angle. It is also somehow possible for them to escape in the last stretch of the infinite, when they are going really high, due to the attack sometimes hitting them and causing a juggle at a weird angle due to height.

The first two followups are also the hardest ones to do after the launch. Get the hang of those and you are pretty much set...

Megalith Aug 4, 2008 11:42 PM

Off the top of my head, Seung Mina has 6A, K and 3K, K. I only trained once with her, and I remember her having a large handful of considerably effective low strikes.

Manny Biggz Aug 5, 2008 12:16 AM

I'm enjoying the hell out of Lizardman in this game. His crawling stance got upgraded with some amazing goodies and his NCc 66B+K, A, B is too manly for words. Anyone with the 360 version want to set up a room for 4 one of these days?

Kostaki Aug 5, 2008 12:38 AM

Lizardman is the only character I cannot consistently beat thanks to all the upgrades he got since the last game. A friend of mine always chooses him, and chose him again in this game to play against me, and he ended up getting the better of me in the end 3 games to 1. All his moves are crazy confusion now, tons of methods to feint and strike. I've never been good dealing with a primarily low strike game, and that's most of what Lizardman is now.

Might actually have to put in more practice to beat him.


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