I still have no idea why anyone would ever pre-order anything. Like Best Buy, Target, and Circuit City won't have copies. And you don't have to part with your own hard earned money for god knows how long. And it's easier to change your mind.

Shoulda pre-ordered a Wii 4srsly.

But yeah, it's not really hard to find stuff. I can't imagine Starcraft 2 being sold out anywhere. Blizzard always has more than enough copies to go around when they launch new games.

might get some extras when you pick up a preorder, hell, I'm going down tomorrow and reserving this!

Doubt it, unless there's a collector's edition (which there will be, but it hasn't been announced yet so I doubt EB or GameStop are taking preorders on the CE yet).

as soon as I hear what the system spcs will be I will pre order this game :)

No CE or LE yet for pre-order, but I'm sure there will be. When we do get that around for pre-ordering, I'll let you all know, as I too will be switching my 5 over to it.

While that may be true, pre-ordering does save you the hassle of trying to track down a copy and it, in essence, allows you to put it on layaway. So why not have the benefit of knowing your copy's guaranteed?

If it's available for pre-order in-store (sometimes the online store has stuff for pre-order that physical stores don't) I'll be pre-ordering it for sure tomorrow.

Yeah, except they don't guarantee it (requiring users to buy more if they wanted their XBOX 360 despite original pre-order purchase rank). And you have no guarantee they will get the game first or will get enough games.

Which is even worse because then you are locked in, you have your money sitting at EB Games, so if you do see tons of copies on the shelves at Target, you not only have to buy it at Target, but you have to go to EB to get your money back.

Further, I've often seen in Sunday circulars where the bigger stores have sales. Several times I've gotten a new game from Circuit City or Best Buy for $10 off (if I remember correctly, Circuit City sold FF XII for $37.99 on first day while everyone else sold it for $49.99). Which means that if you want to take advantage of those specials, you have to go through the process I outlined above.

Starcraft2 is only available in Korea, since the rest of the world doesn't care about it aside from koreans.

Vemp: Well that would be a hard sell my friend, even if it is a joke seeing how it's made by a North American company it's not really even believable. Better luck next time.

As for this pre-ordering thing. I only pre-order anything if it's something that I REALLY want. Like StarCraft 2 or Final Fantasy XII. And Mikey if they don't get it in day 1 then I'll go get it somewhere else. If I find it, OMFG I just lost $5 to EB games, better go kill myself. Really, unless you pre-order every game known to man, or don't care when you get it and pay the full price when pre-ordering it doesn't really matter where you get it. However no matter how you look at it, your chances of getting it on day 1 if you pre-order at a big-box store or specialty shop are still better then not pre-ordering it.

$5 = http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9...burritoxe8.jpg

I can't think of a single game ever that people couldn't get on day 1 without pre-ordering. The only place I can ever remember it applying is to the 360 and, as we all know, people who pre-ordered that got fucked in the ass by Gamestop and EB.

It's an unnecessary risk. It's just another indicator that no wonder so many are in debt: no one knows jack shit about economics or finance.

I know both economics and finance, I'm just not stingy. Plus most people don't pre-order stuff out of fear of not getting it, it's out of excitement most of the time. But once again it comes back to what is it hurting you and why do you care so much about people paying $5 for a game when they may not need to? Have a bad experiance that you'd like to share with the class?

And just to answer the the obvious comeback that someone's going to spout off "why do YOU care so much about Mikey caring?" I'm going to answer this one in advance. I don't, I just find this discussion entertaining.

I can understand preordering hardware units that have a lot of hype and an expected shortage (XBOX360, Wii, ...not PS3). But I've never had an issue finding a game on release day for any platform. Sometimes I've even picked up games a day or two after release date, and there were plenty to go around. It's not hard for companies to press DVDs. There should never be a shortage, really.

I'm only gonna say this once, since I said it a million times in the past and it still pisses me off. Microsoft is the one who screwed your 360 pre-order Mikey, not EB or Gamestop. This is what we were told, in short:

MS: "Hey, you guys can definitely reserve a maximum of 40 Xbox 360s at any of your locations."
EB/GS: "Are you absolutely certain?"
MS: "Oh yeah! We'll have plenty available!"

That was around, oh, March 2005. However, come late August, September...

MS: "Hey....about that 40 unit maximum....yeah we actually meant to say more like 12."
EB/GS: "WHAT?!"
MS: "Yeah sorry about that. But we won't intervene and release a press statement until after the public blames you. Have a good launch!"

Employees who worked during the 360 launch: "Mother fuckers."

Anyway, so derailed.

Well, that's kind of exactly my point. It's the mentality that gets people into debt. Granted, $5 is small potatoes, but it is the same impulse thinking that leads people to put $3,000 TVs on a credit card that they can't pay off.

It is absurd from a practical standpoint (customer gets no benefit) and leads to potentially harmful behavior from a social standpoint (like saying a casino doesn't foster gambling problems).

The people who say, "Well, I don't have anything to lose in pre-ordering" don't ask themselves, "If I had nothing to lose, that means the company has nothing to gain...so why would they do it?"

Target, Best Buy, and Circuit City didn't fuck over their customers by offering pre-orders. That's the difference. When Target was told, "Hey, we only have 25% of your order ready", they didn't have people's money in hand.

And your little anecdote there still has nothing to do with the real problem: that after EB and GS found that out, they would only give the 360s to the people who would order the most other games and accessories. "Oh, sorry, you don't want to buy 5 games and 3 extra controllers on launch day? Then you aren't getting one. I don't care that you were the first person to pre-order."

According to Rob Pardo, StarCraft 2 definitely won't be seeing a 2007 release.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3159975

I've occasionally pre-ordered stuff and I've only done it so that, when the game DOES come out, I can just walk in, pick it up and walk out, as its already been paid for. Of course Consoles are an entirely different story from just Games, even heavily hyped ones.

I like that "It'll be ready when it is ready". It's nice to see them say that now, instead of giving ETAs for release so when they have to "delay" the game, there won't be an uproar. *Thinks back to the Burning Crusade launch* Of course there will still be an uproar anyway. Let's just hope they don't pull a Diablo II.

Me, I really don't care how long they take as long as it means they put out a game as good as the original. They probably WILL do like Diablo II, if they have to. Sure, they delayed it beyond all reason, but the game they finally released is still selling on retail shelves seven years later. You can count on one hand the number of games with that kind of longevity (and profit margin).

Tentative release for October 2008 seems to be swirling along the internet. My guess is early to mid 2009, due to their legendary delay cycle.

I'm just hoping an old computer can play it. I remember Starcraft being a be able to run on almost anything.

Old as dirt but I gotta say that's not how it was done here. First come, first serve.

I got the second one because I was the second one to preorder.

It looks like there is no limit to how many units you can select. I sorta liked the 12 unit limit from the original starcraft and would have liked it if they just increase the limit to 24 or 32. I dunno, it could be cool being able to select every single unit at once. I can see this being abused by some kid massing zerglings lol. Gamespot also said that it feels just like the original starcraft except with brand new units, which is a good thing. I just hope that Blizzard can make it as good as the original.

Oh and the single player campaign isn't as linear as the original, i think you can choose which missions to do and what units and buildings to bring into battle.

Until SC2 comes out, we may have to keep ourselves occupied with this, next month:

Starcraft: The Board Game <3

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/im...rcraft_box.jpg

article from kotaku

Gotta get dat. Last year was Nintendo Monopoly for me. This year... hell yes.

Oh man, i cant wait for this game.. i just hope itll run on my computer ;/ They did say it will be scableable so older computers can run it.. but everytime i see some videos, if you dont have a pretty recent machine itll run like crap... looks like to me

The older Starcraft games, runs on like a pentium 90 lol.

Im replaying them again to see the story