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Duminas Sep 25, 2007 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Firefly (Post 508133)
Intercept geometry is a major issue here. Ideally, fire from behind your target while it is proceeding in roughly the same direction you are; conversely, firing on one crossing your view is least likely to yield results.

How can you tell when missiles actually "lock" though? Is it just whatever happens to be in front of you, or your target (switched by Y)?


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That's your gunsight; when using cannons to engage a target, aim for that, not the actual plane. If you do get the demo, be sure to play through the tutorials; those should clarify things.
So get the enemy within that circle if using cannons? Check. And I do have the demo already--did you mean the actual game?

Firefly Sep 26, 2007 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Duminas (Post 508167)
How can you tell when missiles actually "lock" though? Is it just whatever happens to be in front of you, or your target (switched by Y)?

http://namco-ch.net/acecombat-zero/popup/img/ast3.jpg
Let's see... as you've probably noticed, every enemy plane in your field of view has a green box on it. If your current target is off-screen, an arrow will point to it, as seen above.

http://namco-ch.net/acecombat-zero/popup/img/ast4.jpg
Your current target will have a data block next to this box. If you're locked on, as is the case in the above image, the box will instead be a red box-and-diamond.

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So get the enemy within that circle if using cannons? Check.
http://namco-ch.net/acecombat-zero/popup/img/ast12.jpg http://namco-ch.net/acecombat-zero/popup/img/ast13.jpg
No, no, no. Take note the two symbols in the dead-center of the HUD... when you do fire the cannon, you will see that the fire heads for one of those (the 'w'; someone double-check that for me, please?). You put thatinside the gunsight, which represents where you have to aim to hit the target.

Duminas Sep 26, 2007 02:56 AM

Oh, wow. Thanks for the images--that clarifies things really well.
Actually beat the demo, now. XD

Thank you for your help~

Megalith Sep 26, 2007 04:03 PM

Firing your missiles whenever you get a red box is really amateurish, unless you're using long-range weapons like XMAAs. The AI doesn't seem to kick in until you are near the enemies, so all of them get blown away in a cluster.

I usually just fly and tailgate the enemy, which guarantees a kill, and you fly through the actual explosion.

But Ace Combat 6 online is going to be all about the machine gun. Although blowing people up while they're in a stall could be fun.

Karasu Sep 26, 2007 06:23 PM

Hahaha, true dat Megalith. I think it would definitely show more skill to shoot down a dude with Machine Guns.

Regarding to the above post on how to shoot properly, what I personally do is sometimes I do fire when the red box shows to shake up the A.I. Jet then I get in there fast and if he's stupid enough, I just blow him outta the sky with guns. Personally, I like the challenge so I hope he can give me a run for my money. The A.I. in AC04 is notorious for looping and dogfighting non stop.


Also I have heard from a friend of mine that some people are upset at the amount of missions the game has and the planes. What I personally think is, that the campaign mode is just part of the game, and perhaps Namco are devoting their attention to the Online Mode. For instance, in time we could see Namco making more planes for the game, and more multiplayer online missions. Perhaps it will become similar to Halo in that regard.

Karasu Sep 30, 2007 04:07 AM

Oh wow look at this, it seems yellow 13 and mobius will never die ;D


Ace Combat 6

Megalith Sep 30, 2007 09:35 PM

Does someone care to translate that.

I assume that they will be unlockable skins for online mode. Too bad the real Mobius 1 flies an F-22A.

Metal Sphere Sep 30, 2007 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Megalith Prime (Post 510079)
Does someone care to translate that.

I assume that they will be unlockable skins for online mode. Too bad the real Mobius 1 flies an F-22A.

They better be the most difficult skins to obtain, considering the aces they belonged to. It just looks like you can apply it to other aircraft aside from F/A-22 and Su-37. Of course, folks who enjoyed AC04 will use them on the appropriate aircraft.

Still, I'm hoping they allow you to paint the aircraft (or at least have a variety of skin colors), so I can try and make a Z.O.E MiG-29 from AC2. Awesome paint job is awesome.

Skwerl Oct 1, 2007 07:19 PM

it is supposed to be the pre-order bonus for the japanese players.

Tails Oct 1, 2007 07:23 PM

US Website is up.

Standard fare, looks like all the rest of them.

Skwerl Oct 1, 2007 08:13 PM

Game Music / Acecombat 6 Original Soundtrack

y hallo thar

Tails Oct 1, 2007 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by INDIGO-3 (Post 510474)

Pre-ordered. I like how I got an extra 300 points from them for it being my birth month.

Megalith Oct 1, 2007 08:55 PM

$30 for 3 CDs. What!!!

FIRE IT UP OPTIMUS.

Hantei Oct 2, 2007 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tails (Post 510457)
US Website is up.

Standard fare, looks like all the rest of them.

Something that the US site has that the Japanese one is lacking is the music. Ahh, so good, can't wait till the soundtrack is released.

BTW, does anyone know if the AC6 Ace-Edge Flight Stick bundle is a pre-order only? Or will retailers have the bundle instock upon the game's release? If not, then I better slap down my pre-order sometime this week.

Megalith Oct 2, 2007 02:44 PM

I think that each store will only get three or four, since it's a niche item.

I don't know why anyone would buy it though. It looks like ass, thanks to the 360's excellent choice of a color scheme.

Tails Oct 2, 2007 06:45 PM

Regardless of what it looks like, playing with a flight stick is infinitely better than playing with a controller.

Karasu Oct 2, 2007 07:00 PM

Id like to try the game with a flight stick, but where would the yaw buttons be? on the throttle?

OmagnusPrime Oct 2, 2007 07:09 PM

If it's anything like the MS Sidewinder flightsticks the stick itself could twist to do yaw.

Actually, that's a point. The Xbox has USB right, so do you reckon it will it allow other flightsticks to be plugged in? If so, rock on.

Elixir Oct 2, 2007 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OmagnusPrime (Post 510819)
The Xbox has USB right, so do you reckon it will it allow other flightsticks to be plugged in? If so, rock on.

Very highly unlikely.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Oct 3, 2007 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 510838)
Very highly unlikely.

This is truth.

PNP devices work. Your flash drives, your cameras, your MP3 players, and your basic keyboards. That shit's all fine and dandy. The second you run across anything that'd require a driver of some sort, you're shit out of luck.

So no original Xbox controllers, no Steel Battalion, no bullshit of that nature.

Granted, there are exceptions, but this is mostly the rule. When in doubt, assume it won't if it's an input device that is more than trivial.

OmagnusPrime Oct 3, 2007 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 2401 Penitent Tangent (Post 510995)
This is truth.

PNP devices work. Your flash drives, your cameras, your MP3 players, and your basic keyboards. That shit's all fine and dandy. The second you run across anything that'd require a driver of some sort, you're shit out of luck.

Yeah I know, I allowed myself a moment of fanciful thinking. Would be neat if I could plug my sidewinder it and use. I mean, it's not like MS would be incapable of making the drivers a bit of downloadable content is it. But sadly, as you say, not going to happen is it.

Zeal Oct 4, 2007 01:55 AM

Anyone who doesn't buy the flight stick should simply not play this game.

OmagnusPrime Oct 4, 2007 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeal (Post 511404)
Anyone who doesn't buy the flight stick should simply not play this game.

That becomes a bit harder when they don't release a flight stick version in your country. In fact is anyone other than the US getting a flight stick version?

Slayer X Oct 4, 2007 02:41 AM

I believe that we are here in Canada. But we're on the same hunk of land so that may the only exception.

OmagnusPrime Oct 4, 2007 02:47 AM

I didn't think you were, hence why Skills is paying crazy amounts to import one.


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