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Forsety Feb 15, 2007 10:10 AM

It's actually not any different in most of the Final Fantasy games, though. They would force usually one person in along with the main character after a certain amount of time and then you would get the same problem. This was especially noticeable in Final Fantasy IX, so it isn't as if FF6 is the sole culprit in the series.

Jinn Feb 15, 2007 12:30 PM

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^That was definitely not directed toward you (or anyone in particular). Try not to miscontrue general statements as direct personal attacks.
Well, sorry about that then. I guess I still fail to see what you were referring to.

Hachifusa Feb 15, 2007 12:33 PM

I think he was speaking generally. It tends to happen with most older Final Fantasy games.

Jinn Feb 15, 2007 12:40 PM

No, I'm just saying that I saw no signs of this thread degrading into "'which FF is best' fanboy faggotry." Considering he posted that right after my post, I thought he was referring to it. Apparently I was mistaken, but still, I failed to see any "fanboy faggotry" going on.

Shaolin Samurai Feb 15, 2007 01:44 PM

You really need an explanation? It's quite simple.

Absolutely any thread involving discussion of the FF series has the potential to degenerate into incredibly lame, GameFAQs-caliber "xxx game sucks or xxx game rules because I am a douche" flamewar gayness. It's especially dangerous when personal opinions start to factor in more and more. I've seen it happen many, many times.

OR

It can be a perfectly civil and upstanding discussion (which is what this thread is at right now).

All I said was please don't let the former happen.

Jinn Feb 15, 2007 01:55 PM

Okay, that's fine. Yes, indeed, I did want an explanation. I certainly wasn't intending to start an argument by any means. I'm not entirely sure why you have to take on such a condescending and hostile tone in your posts, for I was not attacking you, I was simply wondering what it was that you were talking about.

Shaolin Samurai Feb 15, 2007 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinn (Post 390973)
I'm not entirely sure why you have to take on such a condescending and hostile tone in your posts, for I was not attacking you, I was simply wondering what it was that you were talking about.

I'm not entirely sure why you have to take on such a defensive tone in your posts, because I'm not attacking you either.

You think that's hostile? You haven't been on the internet much have you :twitch:

Jinn Feb 15, 2007 02:52 PM

Actually, I can almost guarantee I've been here longer than you. I guess if you really want to continue with this, we should do so via PM.

Shaolin Samurai Feb 15, 2007 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinn (Post 391028)
Actually, I can almost guarantee I've been here longer than you.

Heh, that proves my point right there. You're so easy to get a rise out of. Maybe my "hostility" and cynicism is a rarity in GFF, but outside these sheltered walls there are people who are far, far worse than me. The worst scum you could imagine, and they would eat you alive.

Anyway back on topic...I finished the game with only Celes-Edgar-Setzer. If you beat the game with Relm without Strago her ending changes as well but I really don't feel like going through all that again just for that.

Omnislash124 Feb 15, 2007 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf (Post 390796)
I problem I find with FFVI, though, is the fact you're allowed to choose your part members frequently. While that's great in itself, it actually hurts the storyline a bit, as only the characters who are forced to be in the party actually contributes to the story. Any expendable character either a) doesn't say anything at all during cutscenes (so why are they there?), or b) says some general statement that anyone would say, without injecting any of his/her personality into it.

It's not like the more recent FF games where additional party members actually say things that goes with the character's personality. The dialogue/scenes actually changes depending on who you choose to go with you. That makes the story more believable, in my opinion.

Well, the thing with VI is that there's a massive amount of characters compared to other Final Fantasy games. Writing in a different part for each character might get a bit hairy since you would need 12x more lines than previously. The difference between this game and later games after it, besides the fact that this game has significantly more playable characters is that whenever the later games have major speaking parts, the ENTIRE party is somehow there, or your party is selected automatically and cannot be changed. It's not always the case, but it usually is. While I'm not defending it, the reason it's most obvious is VI is that there are much more parts of the game where you get to completely select your party compared to later games.

Render Feb 17, 2007 07:13 PM

I beat the game today, and watched the beautiful ending.

Spoiler:
Kaiser wasn't all that difficult. I used a level 75 Terra, and a level 40 Cyan. I nuked 200,000 HP away with Flare alone. I guess I still have to see what Diabolos does. :D

I also haven't checked out the new cave west of Mobliz yet. You can't get there until you finish Kefka.


A cool word: I'm sure a few people know that you can steal a Ragnarok and Ultima Weapon from the enemies on the final tier of Dancing Mad. You get to keep them now if you obtain them thanks to the new cave.

This has changed my party line-up, because I choose characters based on skill and possible equip. Terra and Celes are guaranteed because of their high magic/magic evade. Terra's Apocalypse is nearly equal to the Ragnarok. Locke's Zwill Crossblade and Edgar's Longinus are less than acceptable, However, the new Ragnarok puts Locke in my party and Edgar's Tools bests every other characters skills. Not to mention, hardly anyone else can equip all this heavy armor. :)

Freelance Feb 18, 2007 07:13 AM

Woo, I come here to check on this thread after a few days to see it all gone to hell. Okay, slight exaggeration there.

Yo, Omnislash, I see your point.

I finished AP levelling my entire team, so I'm off to the Floating Continent to advance the story. I finally found the Ribbon in South Figaro. Haha, it actually took me a while to find the secret entrance >_>

I forgot, but do you need the airship to get to Phoenix Cave? How soon as possible can you get to the cave, and will I get creamed? I hear it's supposed to be dangerous and crap, but hell, I want Locke back ASAP, even if it means heading straight into the lion's den without preparing. He's my favourite character and all >_>

Omnislash124 Feb 18, 2007 11:02 AM

It's risky, but you could do it if you're careful. You do indeed need the airship, but you get that rather early. The Phoenix Cave might be a bit hard if you do it early though. You'll have a grand total of 4 Characters: Celes, Sabin, Edgar, Setzer. And you'll have to split those 4 characters up into 2 groups. Meaning 2 per group and going through the entire phoenix cave with 2 people per group is very risky. Doable though....

Freelance Feb 18, 2007 01:20 PM

Y'know, while I was typing my post, I had a feeling I was missing something. Now you've clinched it. Bah, I suppose they assume the cave would be last place you'd want to go to : /

I'll try anyway, because it's my duty :D

Conan-the-3rd Feb 19, 2007 02:59 PM

Just finished Zozo and gotten my first load of Magicite (You know, on reflection, using the remains of magical creatures seems kinda off, kinda like Necromancy.) and just screwing around Magic Grinding.

You know, if FF6's Esper System was used in FF8, maybe I would of forgiven FF8's insufferable protagonist.

Hachifusa Feb 20, 2007 01:42 PM

I thought that the protaganist in FFVIII was decent. I mean, wasn't that the point in the game, to deal with angst?

Anyway. Is it just me, or is FF6 harder than I recall? Maybe I remember it being easy so I thought it'd be very easy, but it's quite difficult.

Shaolin Samurai Feb 20, 2007 01:58 PM

What exactly is giving you trouble? Even beating the game with only Celes, Edgar, and Setzer was easier than I expected.

ctu Feb 20, 2007 02:15 PM

I love the new it so far. I have been playing on VBA and I kinda fucked up my save file and lost some of my progress (I was trying to get into the empire to get to the magitech research facility and I had to restart from right before I went to fiargo (sp) to go find terra

Freelance Feb 22, 2007 08:25 AM

Hey, time for an update. I stopped playing after defeating the Storm Dragon and getting Cyan back in Mt. Zozo. "Bushido in The Bedroom."

Anyway, I decided to get most of my party back before getting Locke >_>

The damn Storm Dragon is the most challenging boss I've encountered so far, which shouldn't be surprising because it's an optional boss. I had Celes, Edgar, Sabin and Setzer fighting the damn thing, and all the guys died hideously. Celes (yay for girl power!) was left with like, less than 50 HP, and it was her turn to attack. I decided to go desperate and hit it with a Thundara (it's weak to it, and she does over 4K DMG) instead of healing, and it turned red and bit it. Whooo!! Don't you just love close calls like that? Man I miss stealing stuffs :(

dagget Feb 22, 2007 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf (Post 397468)

Anyway, I decided to get most of my party back before getting Locke >_>

That's what I did as well. As soon as I got back the airship, I went to get Mog (so I could get the Moogle Charm) then just went around picking people up (starting with Gogo)

Right now I'm just leveling everyone up while letting some people learn Magic (I always avoid having Shadow and Setzer learning magic everytime I play). Speaking of Setzer, I'm trying to find the Fixed Dice so I can "dual weild" both sets of dice with him, but to no luck. :( It's been that long since I've played it I've forgotten where they're at.

Jamma Feb 22, 2007 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf (Post 397468)
Man I miss stealing stuffs :(

Heh, I know what you mean. I always feel like I'm missing a few decent items if I don't have Locke (or indeed any thief-like person in a FF game) in my party.

Anyway, I found that elusive Ribbon (cheers SS) and immediately found another one in the Phoenix Cave... typical. Right now I'm halfway through uncursing the Cursed Shield, then I'm gonna raid the Fanatics tower with my ridiculously over-powered team. :cool:

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Originally Posted by dagget (Post 397521)
Speaking of Setzer, I'm trying to find the Fixed Dice so I can "dual weild" both sets of dice with him, but to no luck. It's been that long since I've played it I've forgotten where they're at.

Kefka's Tower mate.

Sword Familiar Feb 22, 2007 10:13 AM

It's nice to see how many of you still enjoy FFVI, so many years after it's release. Just proves how great a game it is.

Omnislash124 Feb 22, 2007 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sword Familiar (Post 397532)
It's nice to see how many of you still enjoy FFVI, so many years after it's release. Just proves how great a game it is.

Damn straight it is. As for grabbing Mog, that's a great idea if you want to grab Locke early since he can be in his own group with the Moogle Charm (Or Molulu's Charm, whatever it's called) and not worry about dying. Then all you need is 4 more characters in the second group who can hold their own.

Freelance Feb 22, 2007 10:31 AM

Hey, that sounds like a great idea. It prevents random battles, yes? Cool. I'll try that on the way home today. Is Mog back at the Narshe caves? I can't remember.

P.S. Are all the other seven dragon as hard as the Storm one? >_>

Jamma Feb 22, 2007 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf (Post 397539)
Hey, that sounds like a great idea. It prevents random battles, yes? Cool. I'll try that on the way home today. Is Mog back at the Narshe caves? I can't remember.

Yes, Mog is back there. Examine the wall where he was standing to find the relic.
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P.S. Are all the other seven dragon as hard as the Storm one? >_>
Nope. In fact, most of them are walk-overs. Especially the Ice Dragon in Narshe Snowfields. Piece of cake.


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