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Little Shithead Mar 15, 2006 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by El Ray Fernando
The P$3...

I stopped caring right there.

I like how nobody will ever take you seriously now that you've used "P$3."

What are you, a linux faggot.

LivingDreams Mar 15, 2006 12:30 PM

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/696/696054p1.html Well supposedly it's being released this year

Grundlefield Earth Mar 15, 2006 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Merv Burger
I stopped caring right there.

I like how nobody will ever take you seriously now that you've used "P$3."

What are you, a linux faggot.


BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAAHhAHAHHAHHAHAHh. Merv Merv Merv. You are reading from my perspective now. Just in this case, someone upset you with a little Sony issue.

Anyways, no one knows wtf Sony is going to do since they do lie out of their asses constantly. It doesn't matter though, because people will likely buy it regardless for 450 or 500 dollars, which it will likely be.

SouthJag Mar 15, 2006 01:39 PM

So, as a recap of the conference, what all do we know about the PS3's launch?

Little Shithead Mar 15, 2006 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bahamut Zero
BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAAHhAHAHHAHHAHAHh. Merv Merv Merv. You are reading from my perspective now. Just in this case, someone upset you with a little Sony issue.

I was upset?

I would say the same thing is someone used "Micro$oft" or "Nint€ndo" or whatever else.

Character replacement is retarded and overused. There's never any chance you could be taken seriously with it, unless you're using it in jest.

You couldn't possibly be this stupid.

Kaiten Mar 15, 2006 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Megalith
Ok, so PS3 is launching this year. LoL. So where are the games.

Also, the fact that it will include a 60GB HD means that it will cost no less than $500. It's over.

But that price doesn't bother me if I can play AC04 in 720p.

60GB hard drive's are dirt cheap right now (and that's the MSRP). They would add, at most $20-$40 to the MSRP. The price of an HDD is well below $0.50 per gigabyte right now (case in point: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144392 ), I assume the manufacturing cost is somewhere between 25-75% of that. I assume the Blu-Ray abilities of the PS3 will account for 33-50% of the manufacturing cost of the system (and possibly that in turn will make the system cost $399 as opposed to $299).

Cetra Mar 15, 2006 02:36 PM

FYI: About there not being any game announcements. This was a business press release so it should be expected. Game development information should come in May during E3.

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I can't go without commenting on this.

First, I was unaware that Oblivion came out. I am quite certain that its next week tuesday since I have been following the game since it was announced.
And if that was the case, why don't the reviews mention this pausing of the game lol.

Two, what the fuck game are you talking about on the 360.
Here:

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The game enters a loading screen when moving through doors, and in open areas will take brief pauses to load new textures when traveling across the countryside. Across all instances of loading, they were consistently swift.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/691/691449p6.html

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Things get even worse when I jump on a horse. Now, I'm actually trotting at a steady clip, and Oblivion starts not just to have draw-in issues but framerate problems as well. It's chugging. It can't keep up with my speed, and quite frankly the horse isn't even going that fast. At some points, I keep seeing the "Loading Area..." message pop up every couple of seconds, which brings with it another framerate stutter. It's herky-jerky-all-over-the-place as I climb up the hill to the gate of Oblivion. My reation to the graphics has, over this sequence, gone from "unimpressed" to "nonplussed" to "annoyed."
http://blog.wired.com/games/index.blog?entry_id=1422030


I could quote from 1up Gamespy and a few others on the issue as well but I don't really feel like doing that much work. I think the point as been made. This is what happens when you attempt to remove the HDD requirement they orginally had for the game.

Grundlefield Earth Mar 15, 2006 02:43 PM

Not well, considering their has always been loading as you move though doors in the elder scrolls games. You do realize how masssive the game is right. Not to mention there has been loading in open areas as well in Morrowind. They were just very subtle. He refers to it as swift so it is not a problem. And no one takes tht blog seriously, but not that that matters.

And not to mention that Bethesda did make use of the Harddrive. They have mentioned this countless times. They said that loading will take longer without it and it wouldn't surprise me that many of the negative reactions about too much loading is because of this (lacking the hdd).

I just didn't like how you stated Oblvion as a mess, when you have not even played it and it has not even been released yet. That is all.

map car man words telling me to do things Mar 15, 2006 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Merv Burger
I would say the same thing is someone used "Nint€ndo"

That would actually be pretty good. Nintendo would have to give a shit about Europe first though (lol)

As for the harddrive, people seem to think the console having a harddrive will magically make all loading times disappear entirely. Does anyone here play PC games or what?

Cetra Mar 15, 2006 03:04 PM

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And no one takes tht blog seriously, but not that that matters.
Obviously you don't know Chris Kohler is one of the most respected reviewers in the industry and has countless books and articles in his resume.

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As for the harddrive, people seem to think the console having a harddrive will magically make all loading times disappear entirely. Does anyone here play PC games or what?
No, but it reduces it a lot, and in the case of games like Oblivion for example which use a texture streaming technology, using a HDD would pretty much remove any pausing that would otherwise show up from just loading textures directly from the optical disc.

Kaiten Mar 15, 2006 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwarky
That would actually be pretty good. Nintendo would have to give a shit about Europe first though (lol)

As for the harddrive, people seem to think the console having a harddrive will magically make all loading times disappear entirely. Does anyone here play PC games or what?

The read speed of a 1x DVD is 1350KB/s and a Blu-Ray disc (at 1x) tops out at ~4395KB/s. The maximum speed of a DVD drive is 21600KB/s (16x) and a Blu-Ray disc is 2x (8789KB/s). This pales in comparison to 7200RPM hard drives, which can read/write at 40-70MB/s (40960KB/s-71680KB/s). This is no where near as fast as RAM, but it's more than twice as fast as a 16x DVD-ROM. Remember, console games are made to take full advantage of whatever media that they are contained within, so any game designed to load on disc (even if it loads very slowly) will load a lot better on an HDD.

Megalith Mar 15, 2006 03:26 PM

Actually, the 60GB HD will be brilliant. Everyone will just download and run their games off of it.

::loads MGS4::

Kilroy Mar 15, 2006 03:51 PM

::Head explodes::

::The world cheers::

Anyway, if Sony actually makes some use of a HDD this time around (Without the price gets too high, Europe-wise) I'd be happy. That could reduce the cost of memorycards, though that should be completely eliminated, seeing that PS3 doesn't have any way of reading old cards. (Which is a pretty stupid choice, unless they make som sort of magic thing that allows you to transfer saves via the PSP. We already have a USB-cable, so Sony should just include a DVD and an UMD in the PS3 package, which allows you to transfer said sdaves. Brilliant!)

Kaiten Mar 15, 2006 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Megalith
Actually, the 60GB HD will be brilliant. Everyone will just download and run their games off of it.

::loads MGS4::

Until they realize that only 2-3 Blu-Ray games will fit on the HDD, upon which they'll start modding the system and dumping $200 in a 500GB HDD. Since the system's games will be region free, the only people who mod it will be pirates (really who used the mod chip and HDLoader to backup games?).

Kilroy Mar 15, 2006 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by www.sega.co.jp
Since the system's games will be region free,

Are you shitting me, or is this a fact?

Megalith Mar 15, 2006 04:03 PM

Does anyone have one of those "MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS" pictures that I can use.

Soldier Mar 15, 2006 04:06 PM

http://www.frontiernet.net/~joe14580...%20obvious.jpg

Though personally I wasn't aware the region free thing was finalized.

Kaiten Mar 15, 2006 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER
http://www.frontiernet.net/~joe14580...%20obvious.jpg

Though personally I wasn't aware the region free thing was finalized.

Well I heard the PSP games are region free (I can't test this), and I heard the PS3 games are going to be region free as well.
More info.

neothe0ne Mar 15, 2006 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Merv Burger
I stopped caring right there.

I like how nobody will ever take you seriously now that you've used "P$3."

What are you, a linux faggot.

It's funny BECAUSE the P$3 runs Linux. What is Ken Kutaragi, a Linux faggot? XFD


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Originally Posted by SouthJag
So, as a recap of the conference, what all do we know about the PS3's launch?

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/pla...dup-160603.php
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/696/696056p1.html

-Global launch on November 11th
-P$3 costs at least $425
-Hard drive accessory REQUIRED to play P$3 games, no word on whether it will be included with the console
-All P$3 games will come on Blu-Ray discs to prevent piracy (prepare for skyrocketing costs--oh wait, go back to point one)

I said "Ow".

Metal Sphere Mar 15, 2006 05:17 PM

Holy shit, I'm gone for one day and things go from:

PS3 is launching in 2007... in Japan, to the above. Great timing with that Captain Obvious pic, but throw in the exploding head pic and you've got a winner.

Soldier Mar 15, 2006 05:40 PM

http://stef.rominet.free.fr/gifs/sto...oding-head.gif

Will that do?

If they can make the November date stick, I suppose I can wait. I just really, really hope the most we'll have to pay is $350.

Maybe MGS4 will make launch after all. Or not.

randomwab Mar 15, 2006 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER
Or not.

I'd go with the or not sadly,some gameplay features havn't even been finalized Kojima yet and he was stilll writing the story a few months ago so i doubt we'll see it for over a year, about summer 07 maybe

neothe0ne Mar 15, 2006 06:06 PM

Isn't that a good thing though? First-generation Sony products have sketchy quality, especially when involving the disc drives, and we're talking about an expensive console here. By the time MGS4 comes out, PS3 may have had a price cut... or maybe not... but at least most of the quality issues should be sorted out by then.

Metal Sphere Mar 15, 2006 06:11 PM

Now that I've taken in all of this, it really does seem to be a good thing for Sony. Watch the $425 price point end up being $400, with the losses reduced by the $150 PS2 and HDD sales. Heck, even the hard drive will likely be cheap since they're far more in production for other things (laptops, etc).

Oh and like neo just said, this'll help quality on the whole. Especially with the games. The only part that is going to suck is launch, quite possibly the first one with bodycounts.

LivingDreams Mar 15, 2006 06:25 PM

Great...

Seems like every company is forcing you to pay for a subscription to play their games online. First Microsoft, and now Sony. Also the fuck is up with people writing microsoft as m$? Microdollar? Wow....


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